Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Irish citizens revolt against open border immigration

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Feature interview with our friend Fatima Gunning from Ireland.

00:00:04.880 She's going to tell us about a civil uprising, really a populist uprising against globalism and mass migration.

00:00:12.960 In one case, it turned into a mini riot. She'll give us the details on that.

00:00:16.940 You don't want to miss today's show, and I'd invite you to watch the video version of it.

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00:00:44.360 All right, here's today's podcast.

00:00:49.460 You're listening to Rebel News Podcast.

00:01:00.000 Tonight, what's going on in Ireland? They have a new prime minister, and they have a new populist uprising.

00:01:06.740 It's May 2nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:09.300 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:10.560 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.89

00:01:24.520 You know, I've been meaning to get over to Ireland for a while.

00:01:27.680 It's just so interesting to me.

00:01:29.160 Small country, less than six million people.

00:01:31.340 Well, really, there are many more Irish people around the world than in Ireland itself.

00:01:37.000 But what's happening in Ireland is a microcosm for the rest of the world.

00:01:40.260 We'll talk a little bit more about that in a moment with our feature guest today, Fatima Gunning, from the news outlet, Gripped.ie.

00:01:48.020 I recorded this yesterday, but I'm playing it today.

00:01:51.580 I've been running around a little bit.

00:01:53.280 I'm in Toronto, back from some of my journeys.

00:01:56.140 But listening to Fatima talk about Irish people standing up against globalism, against forced mass migration,

00:02:07.040 how Fatima herself was pepper sprayed, you'll hear that in a moment,

00:02:10.940 I took her up on her suggestion.

00:02:13.820 She said on Monday, they were expecting one of the largest protests in Irish history against open borders.

00:02:21.460 And I thought, well, you know, I better go over there and cover it.

00:02:24.420 So I'm going to be heading to Ireland on Sunday night.

00:02:28.440 On Monday, they're going to have what is expected to be a giant citizens revolt.

00:02:34.660 And that country is revolting against the government a lot these days.

00:02:39.260 I'll be right back the next day.

00:02:40.840 I'm just going to be in Ireland for 24 hours to cover this march.

00:02:43.240 Hopefully, you'll find it interesting.

00:02:45.060 We'll put all that up at migrantreports.com.

00:02:48.340 Anyway, a bit of an intro there that I've recorded after the main course,

00:02:52.780 which was this conversation with Fatima Gunning.

00:02:56.040 Take a look.

00:02:59.440 Well, I like following the news from Ireland, even though it's a fairly small country,

00:03:03.580 just north of 5 million people.

00:03:05.260 But there's so many parallels to Canada, I think, in its politics.

00:03:10.900 Recently, their prime, until just a few weeks ago, really, their prime minister, Leo Varadkar,

00:03:16.640 was a kind of carbon copy of Justin Trudeau trying out the same ideas.

00:03:21.300 Mass migration, censorship, globalism, an obsession with carbon and even nitrogen.

00:03:28.520 And the demonization of critics also had echoes for me here in Canada.

00:03:36.260 And my favorite thing about Ireland is that now I can follow the news there through gript,

00:03:42.700 gript.ie.

00:03:46.340 That's an independent news source that in some ways reminds me of Rebel News.

00:03:51.360 They're journalists who are, you know, they are real journalists doing real journalism,

00:03:56.620 but they aren't afraid to be contrarian and to hold the government to account.

00:04:02.160 So it's a pleasure to watch the news in this interesting place through the eyes of Gript. 0.73

00:04:07.580 And I'm delighted that we're joined again tonight by one of Gript's in-the-field reporters,

00:04:13.160 Fatima Gunning, who joins us now via Skype.

00:04:15.900 Fatima, great to see you again.

00:04:16.880 Thanks very much for taking the time.

00:04:19.300 Hello.

00:04:19.760 Nice to talk to you again.

00:04:21.000 Thank you.

00:04:21.500 There's so much going on over there.

00:04:23.120 Leo Varadkar, he's been the prime minister, or the Tayshaq, if I'm saying that right,

00:04:27.300 for so many years.

00:04:28.720 And he finally moved on.

00:04:30.420 And there's a new prime minister, Simon Harris.

00:04:33.200 Can you tell our viewers why did Leo Varadkar go and what's the new PM like?

00:04:41.000 Well, I think the reasons behind Varadkar's sudden departure, there's a lot of speculation about it.

00:04:46.840 I think he cited personal reasons, but I don't know, like, what were the thoughts in his head?

00:04:53.240 I don't know.

00:04:53.740 It seems like his cabinet were genuinely surprised that he made the announcement that morning.

00:04:58.220 And, yeah, he's just returned to being a local TD in his constituency.

00:05:04.620 So, yeah, I don't think I saw it coming.

00:05:08.420 I know he was very unpopular.

00:05:10.240 But then again, almost the entire government is extremely unpopular.

00:05:14.140 So, yeah.

00:05:15.660 I mean, Justin Trudeau is very unpopular, even more unpopular than Varadkar is.

00:05:20.220 But he's hanging on to power for dear life.

00:05:22.900 Let me ask you about the new guy, Simon Harris.

00:05:25.260 Is he basically same party, same ideology, same policies?

00:05:30.760 What's he like?

00:05:32.620 So far, like, obviously, it's early stages, but he hasn't done anything radical.

00:05:36.620 I mean, one of the things he's done that a lot of people thought was controversial is that he kept on Helen McEntee as minister for justice.

00:05:42.900 She is a deeply unpopular minister for justice who has presided over, well, the chaos we see with immigration today.

00:05:51.640 I mean, just was it two years ago, she gave an amnesty to 17,000 illegal immigrants here.

00:05:58.020 That might not sound like a huge number to folks in Canada, because obviously you're much bigger than us.

00:06:02.540 But to us, that's quite a chunk of people.

00:06:04.320 So that was something that some political commentators have said was possibly an unwise decision for him.

00:06:12.960 And, you know, he hasn't given really any signs that he's going to shake things up.

00:06:17.460 I just remember from 2011, he's quite a young guy.

00:06:21.820 He's 37.

00:06:22.640 He's our youngest Taoiseach ever.

00:06:24.020 He promised the Irish public that he was pro-life and that he was completely against abortion.

00:06:30.360 And, you know, a lot of pro-life people in Ireland would have voted for him.

00:06:34.780 But he was he also oversaw the introduction of abortion as minister for health.

00:06:38.860 So I think he he's a little bit of a shapeshifter. 1.00

00:06:42.700 I think he does where he he follows where the power is, perhaps.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, what's interesting to me is that in the backdrop of all this were two referendum questions that were striking in the difference between the government and the people.

00:07:00.420 The most astonishing one was a plan to remove the clause from the Irish Constitution that talks about motherhood.

00:07:08.380 And I remember first reading that and it was it's such a unique and interesting part of a national constitution that praises mothers and defends mothers.

00:07:19.880 And I mean, it's actually beautiful.

00:07:22.500 And the idea of removing such a thing is such a an appalling lack of judgment and just a total thumping by the people.

00:07:31.820 I mean, all the political class was for these changes and the people were against it.

00:07:37.440 What a great divide has the government and has Simon Harris sort of abandoned some of that social engineering stuff.

00:07:45.080 You mentioned he's wobbly on on certain cultural issues.

00:07:49.880 How is he on the feminist stuff, on the transgenderism stuff?

00:07:54.200 Is he still barreling ahead like Leo Varadkar was or has he cooled it on that as the referendum cooled him off?

00:08:00.380 Well, I think it's it's almost a little bit too early to tell.

00:08:04.640 He's only been in office for three weeks now or a month.

00:08:07.240 But I can say that at one stage he did have he him pronouns in his bio on LinkedIn, I think it was.

00:08:13.040 So if that's any indicator, I'm sure he's not like he's not too questioning of the transgender ideology stuff. 0.63

00:08:21.820 He has said that he was he's going to go ahead with the hate speech bill.

00:08:26.760 I think I may have spoken to you about that a little bit previously, but that is an extremely controversial piece of legislation.

00:08:33.480 And he was interim minister for justice for a short time while the current minister for justice, Helen McEntee, was on maternity leave.

00:08:41.240 And he wanted to actually add migration status as a protected characteristic under that bill, which means essentially that it would be a crime to criticize or question somebody.

00:08:53.700 Are you an illegal immigrant or something like that?

00:08:55.620 He actually wanted to add that to the legislation, which is a bit crazy, isn't it?

00:09:00.920 Like, well, crazy today becomes normalized tomorrow.

00:09:04.460 That's the whole Overton window.

00:09:06.600 You know, it's I'm glad you mentioned the justice minister, because we've talked to you and some of your colleagues before about the zeal with which the government has pushed this censorship bill.

00:09:16.120 And just across the sea in Scotland, Hamza Youssef, who's the first minister of Scotland, he really personally championed an incredible censorship bill that's similar to the one they're talking about in Ireland.

00:09:31.660 And I think it backfired on Hamza Youssef in Scotland the first week.

00:09:38.060 There were thousands of complaints against him personally.

00:09:41.680 I think it was a deeply unpopular bill, and it may have been one of the reasons that he stepped down recently.

00:09:49.640 Do you think that you mentioned that the new PM, Simon Harris, is keeping the justice minister who has promoted this censorship bill.

00:10:00.100 Are they going to go ahead with it?

00:10:01.660 Are they planning to push it through in Ireland?

00:10:05.520 I mean, they say they are.

00:10:07.500 They've been discussing amending it.

00:10:10.100 Like, we don't know what those amendments are.

00:10:12.820 So it's really hard to say.

00:10:14.460 I think it's so deeply unpopular. 0.98

00:10:16.520 And there's been such a tremendous amount of pushback against it that, I mean, if I was in his shoes, I would think it was a stupid thing to pursue. 0.96

00:10:23.460 Honestly, like, you want to make yourself even more unpopular. 0.60

00:10:25.900 But, you know, I guess, is it a matter of pride that they don't want to see to be, what would you say, kind of bowing to what they would probably call people who oppose it the far right?

00:10:38.880 Because they just basically call everyone that doesn't agree with them far right now.

00:10:42.520 That's what Trudeau does in Canada.

00:10:44.940 It's one of the things I see, the similarities in all these countries that I love to follow, and I love to see them through the eyes of gripped.

00:10:51.540 You mentioned one of the things that was done was the granting of an amnesty to 17,000 illegal migrants, I think you said.

00:11:03.060 And in my head, I did the math, and I think that would be like 100,000 or about 130,000 people in Canada.

00:11:09.780 That's an astonishing number of people.

00:11:12.540 And I think it's become a flashpoint because the places in Ireland where many of these migrants are being housed are so disruptive. 1.00

00:11:22.840 I mean, the great number of people who are being put in small towns is astonishing to me.

00:11:27.840 And there's a fairly small town called Newton Mount Kennedy, if I'm pronouncing it correctly, that I actually think is in the district of Simon Harris in County Wicklow, less than 3,000 people.

00:11:40.720 But they were planning on, like a fairly small close-knit place, and they were planning on putting a bunch of migrants in there.

00:11:47.100 I don't think they had a public consultation on the matter.

00:11:50.600 And it turned into protests, and there was some arson, and I think it devolved into a bit of a riot.

00:11:57.000 Now, you were right there in the thick of it.

00:11:59.680 Why don't you describe what happened?

00:12:01.180 And correct me if I've got any errors in how I've described it.

00:12:05.580 No, like so, Newton Mount Kennedy is, yeah, small town, population about 3,000.

00:12:10.880 It's really, like, quite remote in that it's quite difficult to get there if you don't have your own vehicle.

00:12:17.900 Yeah, so it was today, I believe, they brought about 60 male asylum seekers down there.

00:12:23.620 I think they're planning initially at least to house 160.

00:12:28.040 So 160 into a small town that's very quiet.

00:12:31.080 It doesn't have a bank.

00:12:32.260 It doesn't have a cinema.

00:12:33.780 It has a tiny little Garda station.

00:12:35.940 It's really under-resourced.

00:12:37.720 Like, there's nothing to do there.

00:12:39.280 There's a church, and there's a charity shop, and there's a pub or two.

00:12:43.020 That's about the size of Newtown Mount Kennedy.

00:12:44.860 So I've been reporting on that situation for about five weeks now.

00:12:50.360 The protests have been going on for about six.

00:12:52.720 This might be the seventh week, actually.

00:12:54.220 It's been going on for quite some time.

00:12:56.060 But last Thursday night, I received word that the public order unit on Garda Si'a Kana are national police.

00:13:04.800 The public order unit are the guys who, I suppose, they kind of get, you know, rough and ready,

00:13:09.320 a public order, as the name suggests, but they showed up, and there were some scuffles.

00:13:15.600 I was told that they had pepper-sprayed people and that an elderly guy had been arrested.

00:13:21.900 So I thought, well, that doesn't sound good.

00:13:23.660 I should probably go over and see what's happening.

00:13:26.680 Sometime after that, 50 fully suited out shields, helmets, jackboots, batons, pepper spray, riot police,

00:13:36.200 riot squad were deployed to the area.

00:13:39.320 And then they lined up.

00:13:40.820 The protesters were kind of facing off against them.

00:13:44.480 At one point, there was a girl who said, get all the women up the front. 1.00

00:13:48.920 It seems like she thought that the riot police would not charge women.

00:13:53.620 Boy, was she wrong.

00:13:54.700 They charged at the people, and the people started to push back.

00:13:59.460 There were people knocked down.

00:14:01.100 There were people pepper-sprayed.

00:14:02.480 There was pepper-sprayed flying everywhere.

00:14:05.340 So I saw people knocked to the ground.

00:14:08.200 There was a lady screaming, that's my brother, that's my brother.

00:14:12.040 Then they kept pushing up the road further and further.

00:14:15.360 At that time, a little bit up the road where there were other protesters stationed, a fire was set to a bunch of wooden pallets.

00:14:23.160 That quickly got quite big.

00:14:27.200 Then, yeah, the riot squad kept pushing people up the road.

00:14:30.880 They, at that point, some men, like mostly teenage boys, from what I could see, started to pelt them with bits of stone.

00:14:39.660 They had, like somebody was throwing a chair.

00:14:41.740 They had like little fold-up chairs that were used at the protest site.

00:14:45.000 Like, a sledgehammer that had been used to chop pallets was thrown.

00:14:49.960 There was an umbrella thrown.

00:14:51.520 It was just like, you know, the people are unarmed.

00:14:54.220 Whatever they could get to hand was just thrown at these guys with shields.

00:14:58.760 And in the midst of that, they pushed us up past.

00:15:04.100 I was complying with them.

00:15:05.400 I was just like, you know, staying close but distant while filming because that's my job.

00:15:12.220 They kept pushing up.

00:15:13.940 They pushed up past the fire.

00:15:15.880 And then there was a man who they pepper sprayed.

00:15:18.940 And he ended up on his knees with his head on his hands.

00:15:23.200 He actually phoned me today.

00:15:24.860 He actually reached out to me and like, well, I'll tell what happened next.

00:15:29.380 But I saw him on the ground.

00:15:31.380 I saw him clearly in a position of surrender.

00:15:34.400 And then the riot squad proceeded to surround him and they started to kick him.

00:15:38.900 So I said he's on his knees.

00:15:43.560 And, you know, some people have been saying that I did the right thing.

00:15:47.680 Some people have been saying that I shouldn't have done that because I'm a journalist and I behaved.

00:15:51.640 You know, I guess I shouldn't have done that.

00:15:53.800 But anyway, in the heat of the moment, I did say he's on his knees.

00:15:59.040 And that's why I said it.

00:16:00.880 And while I was retreating back, one of the public order unit came up to me and pepper sprayed me in the face.

00:16:06.640 He's on his knees! 1.00

00:16:20.460 Get the fuck out of him! 1.00

00:16:22.460 I'm a journalist! 1.00

00:16:24.100 I'm a journalist!

00:16:25.040 Press! 0.92

00:16:25.820 Press! 0.92

00:16:26.680 Press! 0.99

00:16:27.480 Crap! 1.00

00:16:27.900 Your pepper sprayed! 1.00

00:16:29.380 Your pepper sprayed!

00:16:30.500 Press! 0.92

00:16:31.500 Your pepper sprayed!

00:16:32.720 Press! 0.92

00:16:35.580 Your pepper sprayed!

00:16:36.520 Press! 0.92

00:16:38.340 Oh, my God.

00:16:39.380 Now, my own point of view is that you are a journalist, but you're also a human, and you're also a citizen and a voter, and you have a stake there.

00:16:49.460 That's your place, too.

00:16:51.800 So you have, I suppose, each of us carry with us different identities at the same time.

00:16:56.700 And I really have to tell you, I don't think it's inappropriate for you to say something as simple, obvious, and factually correct as he's on his knees.

00:17:05.460 So I'm going to politely disagree with the folks who have chastised you for that.

00:17:09.060 But for you to be pepper sprayed, when you clearly were a journalist, when, as you said, you weren't obviously throwing things, you weren't writing, you were documenting it, that's shocking.

00:17:22.120 Did they, like, blast you right in the face?

00:17:24.160 Did it hurt?

00:17:24.760 Did it take you out of commission?

00:17:27.900 So he came right up to me, and I said, like, I'm a journalist, and I kept saying press, press, press.

00:17:35.240 Because, like, obviously, when, like, a huge guy in a massive, like, combat suit is coming at you, you're just, you know, it's hard to form a sentence, and you're just, like, press, press, press, like a journalist.

00:17:46.360 So the video, like, I don't know if you've seen the video, but the frame is zoomed, so I'm not actually as close to him as I look like I am.

00:17:55.740 But, yeah, he came right up to me, sprayed it, and I kind of, I guess I went like this, because you can see my hand going up in the video, and then it got me, like, all here.

00:18:05.140 So the side of my face was burning.

00:18:06.820 There was a spot that got on my eyelid that was burning.

00:18:09.540 It was on my neck.

00:18:10.720 It was all over my hands.

00:18:12.100 My hands were burning all night.

00:18:13.640 But luckily, by some miracle, it didn't get straight into my eyeballs.

00:18:17.980 So I definitely didn't get it as bad as the other people who got sprayed.

00:18:22.860 Now, I saw, I think it was the boss of Gripped, John McGurk, if I'm not mistaken, who said he was rightfully outraged that you were targeted, and that he was going to bring this up with the police.

00:18:35.340 Has he done so, and has there been any reaction?

00:18:39.940 We in Canada have had similar things happen to us.

00:18:43.160 Our reporter, David Menzies, has been arrested three times this year, if you can believe it.

00:18:48.280 Twice he was taken to jail.

00:18:49.660 Well, we feel that it's because he reports on things that the government and sometimes the police don't want.

00:18:58.200 Do you think this was just an overzealous policeman?

00:19:04.160 Do you think they knew you were with Gripped and didn't like the fact that you were shining a light on things?

00:19:09.420 Have they said anything to you?

00:19:10.920 Give me a little bit of background.

00:19:11.960 I don't want to overstate things, but I don't want to understate them, too.

00:19:15.720 We here in Canada, we know that there's a hate on for our journalism.

00:19:20.840 We've been at this nine years.

00:19:22.060 We can see the patterns.

00:19:23.760 What do you have to, a week or two has passed now.

00:19:26.840 How does it look to you?

00:19:30.120 I would like to think he was just being overzealous.

00:19:33.340 I don't have any reason to believe that Angarda Chikana don't like Gripped.

00:19:38.260 I know that, in fact, some of them do because they actually voted overwhelmingly, over 90 percent, no confidence in their police commissioner, Drew Harris.

00:19:49.840 So they're all working under a guy who, you know, more than 90 percent of them say they have no confidence in.

00:19:55.420 So they're obviously in a really rubbish position now.

00:19:59.260 And, you know, unfortunately for them, they are the tangible incarnation of the state's policies which they are being used to push through.

00:20:08.760 So they are like people are really angry at them.

00:20:12.120 You know, they're human beings as well.

00:20:13.880 Like, I'm not happy with what he did, obviously.

00:20:17.040 But I would like to think it wasn't targeted in any way.

00:20:20.960 Well, I hope you get some information.

00:20:22.480 I know that here in Canada we've lost our patience and we now sue police who attack our people.

00:20:28.500 But, of course, that's a very sensitive decision that your team will make on its own terms.

00:20:33.400 I'm thinking about the stats you said about little Newtown Mount Kenley, 3,000 people, and they want to put in, I think you said, 60 men and then more after that.

00:20:46.380 What's the total number they're looking at?

00:20:47.920 About 150?

00:20:48.780 Is that what you said?

00:20:50.180 So that's a really good question.

00:20:52.300 Their initial figure is 160.

00:20:55.420 They've moved about 60 there already.

00:20:58.040 But I think this is where the figures from the UK might be quite relevant because there are over 1,000 asylum seekers in Ireland that haven't been given state accommodation.

00:21:12.260 So, you know, there are rumors flying around left, right and center that they could be housing up to 1,000 people.

00:21:18.360 The Department of Integration, who is overseeing all this, is not really fond of answering too many of my questions or at least not giving definitive answers to ones they don't like.

00:21:30.500 And it was brought up in our parliament today that there are between 700 and 1.2 million undocumented migrants in the UK.

00:21:39.300 Now, the flights to Rwanda have started going since yesterday.

00:21:43.360 So, you've got to imagine, even if a tiny percentage of that, you know, possibly 1.2 million decide, well, Ireland sounds nicer than Rwanda, like, you know, you can only imagine that a huge percentage of them will want to try and come here.

00:21:59.680 Right. And just for our viewers who aren't following it, Rwanda is an unusual, I'm not going to say experiment, I'm going to say a project that both the UK and Ireland to deport people who, because it's a safe place, if I understand, correct me, Fatima, if I'm wrong here. 0.91

00:22:18.720 Rwanda has agreed to accept these migrants, and they're not in danger there.

00:22:24.620 So, it's basically, they would like to stay in the five-star hotel called the UK or Ireland, and the government is saying, we'll save you from a violence of a war or discrimination, but you're going to have to stay at the two-star hotel in Rwanda, and we'll fly you there.

00:22:39.700 Is that basically, do I understand it? It's basically moving the refugees to a third-party country. Is that right? 0.98

00:22:45.520 Yeah, well, it's only the UK at the moment. Yeah, so they want to move them to Rwanda while their asylum claims are processed, because, you know, it has taken up, much like Ireland, it's taken up a lot of kind of public amenities like hotels and things like that.

00:23:03.100 You know, there have even been instances of them being housed in floating hotels.

00:23:09.340 So, you know, the place is bursting at the seams with all these people, many of whom are coming from safe countries claiming to be asylum seekers. 1.00

00:23:16.760 You know, I'm doing the math again. If you said there's between 700,000 and 1.2 million asylum seekers in a country of 5 million, that's such an astonishing number.

00:23:25.480 That's, let's just say, roughly 20%. That would be, again, in Canada, it's just so astonishing to even contemplate it.

00:23:34.120 That would be like 8 million souls in Canada. It's just astonishing.

00:23:41.620 So that's the UK. So the UK, like, has 700,000 to 1.2 million.

00:23:47.680 Oh, so that's the UK. That's not Ireland.

00:23:49.660 Okay, I misunderstood, because that many in Ireland would be unbelievable. I was having trouble understanding that.

00:23:56.900 So that's the UK. Got it. And the reason you're raising that, and this is fascinating, I'm learning, is because when the UK voted for Brexit, it sort of voted for borders.

00:24:09.080 And there was a dispute, because, of course, the UK borders Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.

00:24:15.300 And Ireland, I think, wanted free transit back and forth. And now Ireland's worried that these British migrants will come into Ireland. Is that right?

00:24:25.820 Well, yeah. So our Justice Minister, Minister Helen McEntee, who I mentioned earlier, she said this week that 80% of asylum claimants coming to Ireland right now are actually coming from the UK.

00:24:37.480 So, you know, and Rishi Sunak, the UK Prime Minister, has basically used that figure as proof that his Rwanda plan is working.

00:24:45.640 He's like saying, look, guys, they're leaving. And it's like, you know, that's great for him, but they're coming to Ireland.

00:24:50.380 And now it's our problem, essentially.

00:24:53.000 You know, again, that's such an analogy with Canada, because a lot of migrants to the US come up across our unguarded border into Canada.

00:25:02.260 And of course, the United States is a very safe place. There's no civil war there.

00:25:06.080 They're just obviously shopping around. You know, I've learned so much from you about Ireland today, and I'm glad you clarified for me a few of the stats there, and that Rwanda is the UK project.

00:25:18.180 But I can see what you mean, because if you're an asylum seeker in the UK and you're about to be given the boot, if you're about to be sent to Rwanda, but you can say, well, I can just walk across the border into Ireland,

00:25:29.240 and it's a lot nicer in Dublin than in Kigali. Well, who wouldn't? I would. If I had to choose between Rwanda and Ireland, I'd choose Ireland every time. Isn't that interesting? 0.95

00:25:39.300 Well, do you think that these protests, these street protests are going to continue?

00:25:45.040 I mean, obviously, none of us want violence and riot and arson, but it's clear that these are such dramatic changes demographically, culturally.

00:25:56.040 There have been spectacular crimes in Ireland recently that have been attributed to immigration policy.

00:26:05.500 It's a sign of deep disagreement in the country, and I don't believe we should give in to violence, but there's obviously a lot of people who think those thoughts peacefully

00:26:14.440 and feel like they're being ignored by the government, like they were ignored on all these other matters we talked about,

00:26:18.980 from free speech to the referendums on motherhood, etc. I think that this issue is fascinating. Is it keeping, is the boiling continuing?

00:26:28.240 Well, I mean, none of these protests happened in a vacuum, I think, is the issue.

00:26:32.400 Like, people have been expressing peacefully that they don't agree with this.

00:26:35.880 Like, I think the latest poll is that 79% of people think that the Irish government have taken in too many migrants.

00:26:42.260 A quarter of a million migrants arrived in Ireland in 2022.

00:26:47.600 That's between Ukrainians, other international protection applicants, and just, you know, regular migrants if they're working or studying or whatever it is.

00:26:55.520 Like, a quarter of a million into a country of five million in one year is quite a lot. 0.53

00:26:59.840 That's crazy. That's Canada numbers.

00:27:01.720 Yeah, and then we have a, like, I don't even know what adjective to use to describe it anymore.

00:27:08.460 We have an absolutely grinding housing crisis, which is ongoing, and yet they're essentially letting in anyone who wants to come.

00:27:17.160 Like, anyone who arrives on our shores and says the word asylum is processed.

00:27:22.420 So, as long as the government is not going to obey the expressed will of the majority of people on this issue,

00:27:30.160 like, I don't see what other alternative there is but to protest.

00:27:33.860 What else are they going to do?

00:27:34.880 Yeah, absolutely fascinating.

00:27:37.640 Well, you've been very generous with your time, and we follow GRIPT very carefully, at least I do.

00:27:42.180 I know the rest of the team here does.

00:27:44.160 We were impressed not only with your independence but the fact that you still are able to put challenging questions to cabinet ministers.

00:27:52.840 So, I'm always impressed when I see your team putting questions to cabinet ministers, and the cabinet ministers squirm a little bit.

00:28:02.220 Sometimes they answer well.

00:28:03.220 Sometimes they don't answer at all.

00:28:04.960 But you obviously have the respect not only of the grassroots people, but you actually do have the respect of the establishment in that they do talk with you.

00:28:13.260 And even if their answers aren't great, they do answer you, and I think that you've achieved something really special at GRIPT in that you are loyal to the people, but you are still engaged with the establishment.

00:28:24.040 And that's a tough thing to do.

00:28:25.160 So, congratulations to you and the whole team.

00:28:27.920 Thank you.

00:28:28.500 Thanks so much.

00:28:29.040 Nice to see you, and once again, I'll just say to our viewers, if you want to follow GRIPT, you can go to their website, g-r-i-p-t dot i-e.

00:28:38.860 Dot i-e is the country code on the internet suffix for Ireland, g-r-i-p-t dot i-e.

00:28:47.380 Most of their content is free, but you can also be a member, a subscriber, and they do written work as well as videos.

00:28:55.200 So, I just think they're great, and follow them on Twitter.

00:28:56.940 Fatima, all the best to you and the team, and stay safe, and I know you were very brave, and you're being very careful about what you say about that pepper-spraying incident, and I hope it never happens to you again.

00:29:11.060 I hope so, too.

00:29:12.060 Thanks so much.

00:29:24.160 Well, you heard me in my intro.

00:29:26.360 So, I was so excited and interested and engrossed with what Fatima said, I talked to our friend, Efron Monsanto, our head of video, and the two of us are going to go over there.

00:29:37.900 We're leaving Sunday night.

00:29:39.020 We arrive Monday morning.

00:29:40.000 We take the red eye.

00:29:41.080 We're flying economy.

00:29:42.340 We're staying in, you know, we're not even going to really stay in a hotel.

00:29:45.880 We're just going to sleep over.

00:29:47.780 We're there on the ground for 24 hours.

00:29:49.400 We're going to cover this as best we can.

00:29:51.540 I think it's going to be very interesting.

00:29:54.620 Anyways, here's a couple of letters from you to me.

00:29:57.080 Tracer says, I would really love to know how much Soros money or NGO money is paying in coordinating all this.

00:30:03.160 You're talking about the campus uprisings.

00:30:04.700 I think it is completely fake.

00:30:07.820 And by fake, I mean AstroTurf funded.

00:30:09.940 What a difference between genuine politics, which I've seen with the truckers two years ago, the anti-vaccine mandate protests, the anti-lockdown protests.

00:30:22.160 I was in Alberta a few weeks ago looking at the carbon tax revolt.

00:30:26.180 You ask those people what's on their mind, they'll talk your ear off.

00:30:30.040 They'll tell you a hundred things.

00:30:32.340 Even if you only ask one, they know why they're there.

00:30:35.160 Whereas when I've been going to, well, I've been to several cities now, and our team has even gone to many more, none of the protesters want to talk because they don't know.

00:30:46.380 The Middle East is a very complicated history in politics, and they just know that this is a rebellion against the man.

00:30:52.680 The man being anything.

00:30:54.280 That's what cultural Marxism is.

00:30:55.840 You rebel against any authority.

00:30:58.180 Global warming today, oil tomorrow, you know, America always is the bad guy.

00:31:04.480 Israel is the bad guy, whatever. 0.83

00:31:06.840 They don't know why they're there.

00:31:08.060 It's all prefab.

00:31:09.820 It's all paid and organized, and many of the people are just anti-for-thugs.

00:31:14.900 David Frager says, I'm really enjoying the on-the-ground reporting.

00:31:18.700 Well, I'm glad to hear it.

00:31:20.460 I was actually trying to get to Montreal today, but my flight was canceled, so I stuck around and got some work done in the office.

00:31:26.820 But we've got great people on the scene.

00:31:28.620 Alexa Lavoie is out there.

00:31:30.120 We'll have more from her later.

00:31:31.720 And David Menzies was at the University of Toronto protest.

00:31:35.460 Unfortunately, it's coming to a town near you.

00:31:38.440 That's our show for today.

00:31:40.000 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:31:44.580 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:31:45.520 Stayaudi.

00:31:46.760 Stayaudi.

00:32:01.140 Stayaudi.

Rebel News Podcast - May 02, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Irish citizens revolt against open border immigration

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