Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is free speech in the UK reserved solely for the elite？

00:00:00.460 Hello, my friends. Fun interview with David Atherton today. He's a rogue, troublemaking freelance journalist in the UK. He's got a lot to say about freedom of speech, mass immigration, the Islamification of the public square, things like that. He's got a lovely accent, which I love to hear on my ears. It might require you to pay closer attention because he doesn't speak like a Canadian. He's not a Canuck, but he's going to give us some insights into the UK. 0.96

00:00:26.580 Okay, that's ahead. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of this podcast. I'm going to show you about four video clips in this interview. I want to make sure you can see them, not just hear them, especially one with a British conservative politician named Robert Jenrick. He's great. So just go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month. You get the great content and the satisfaction of keeping Rebel News strong.

00:00:56.580 Tonight, the latest on two-tiered justice, free speech, and mass immigration in the United Kingdom, a feature interview with David Atherton. It's July 1st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:20.440 You're ready for freedom! Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:35.800 Well, in the United States, there's a pretty cool music festival that's become super corporate. It's called Burning Man. It's in the middle of the desert.

00:01:44.760 Tickets sell for thousands of dollars, depending on the kind of fancy tent you want, but that's nothing compared to the UK version of that festival called Glastonbury.

00:01:56.920 400 pounds, that's almost $700, for a regular ticket. This is not a poor people's concert. It's for the fancy people, and one of the observations people always make is that

00:02:10.580 the politics of Glastonbury are very much left-wing, progressive, exhibitionist, virtue-signaling, luxury beliefs that come with a luxury concert.

00:02:20.780 For example, the security around Glastonbury is enormous. Very tall fences, high-security gates, while inside they talk about having no-borders-style open immigration.

00:02:33.280 It's quite something. It's always been left-wing, but yesterday hit a new low. Take a look at this singer from the band called Bob Villain.

00:02:43.780 I wonder if he knows that his riff on Bob Dylan, that Bob Dylan was a Jew named Robert Zimmerman. I don't think he knows, and he might change the name if he knew,

00:02:53.880 because let me just sum it up. That guy doesn't really like Jews, and he doesn't really like England either. I'm going to play two clips from him. 0.60

00:03:02.380 Here he is, chanting for the globalization of the Intifada and the ethnic cleansing of Israel. Here, take a listen.

00:03:11.380 Free, free!

00:03:12.240 Hot side! 0.98

00:03:13.080 Free, free!

00:03:14.140 Hot side! 0.98

00:03:15.080 All right, but have you heard this one, though? 0.99

00:03:17.180 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:18.980 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:20.680 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:22.260 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:24.320 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:26.240 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:28.000 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:29.940 Death, death to the IDF! 0.99

00:03:31.740 Hell yeah, from the river to the sea, Palestine must be, will be, inshallah, it will be. 1.00

00:03:37.160 Yeah, you don't normally hear someone calling for chants of death outside of Gaza, but there it is, amongst the fanciest in the UK, and they just cheered.

00:03:47.800 But it's not just the Jews he has in his targets. 0.57

00:03:50.520 Although he himself was actually born in the UK, he despises the place.

00:03:55.420 Here, give him a listen.

00:03:56.420 Heard you want your country back. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

00:04:01.700 Heard you want your country back! 1.00

00:04:04.360 You can't have that! 0.95

00:04:06.320 Heard you want your country back! 1.00

00:04:09.300 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

00:04:11.060 Heard you want your country back! 1.00

00:04:13.540 Shit, me too! 1.00

00:04:15.320 Heard you want your country back. 1.00

00:04:18.360 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

00:04:20.160 Heard you want your country back! 1.00

00:04:21.500 Uh-uh, you can't have that

00:04:24.120 The only place I know

00:04:25.940 Stolen right under my nose 1.00

00:04:27.720 My ignorant scum 1.00

00:04:28.940 Trying to lay claim to a land that ain't theirs anyway 1.00

00:04:31.660 Wait, what did you say?

00:04:33.840 How do you want your country back?

00:04:36.320 How? Shut the fuck off 1.00

00:04:37.900 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:04:40.900 Uh-uh, you can't have that

00:04:42.440 How do you want your country back?

00:04:45.560 How? Shut the fuck off 1.00

00:04:47.140 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:04:50.000 Well, shit, me too 1.00

00:04:51.320 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:04:53.780 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:04:55.260 Shut the fuck off 1.00

00:04:56.260 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:04:58.260 How do you want your country back?

00:04:59.800 Can't have that

00:05:00.760 How do you want your country back?

00:05:02.940 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:05:04.360 Shut the fuck off 1.00

00:05:05.360 How do you want your country back? 1.00

00:05:07.420 But you can't have that

00:05:09.860 The reason I mention that

00:05:15.440 is because that was streamed live

00:05:17.180 on the BBC state broadcaster

00:05:19.380 it was an approved musical act by glastonbury and it was of a piece with other pro-terrorist acts

00:05:25.720 and i say pro-terrorism i'm not using that as an insult that is an observation there's a

00:05:30.920 irish band called kneecap named after the tactic of shooting people in the knees their lead singer

00:05:39.260 is almost 40 so he wears a face covering balaclava to appear younger and more menacing

00:05:45.680 um kneecap uh they go much further they they don't dispense with using the word zionist they

00:05:53.520 just come right out and say it therefore the terrorist groups hamas and hezbollah they're

00:05:59.640 not afraid to show it here's a clip of them they were playing over the weekend in glastonbury

00:06:03.100 and here they are in the united kingdom actually breaking out a terrorist flag which is quite

00:06:08.400 something i mean if i said to you can you acquire a terrorist flag you would probably say i'm not sure

00:06:13.980 how to do that these guys figured it out and they were only too happy to fly it take a look

00:06:19.700 well lots of humming and hawing the day afterwards but the met police which is a large police force in

00:06:37.500 the united kingdom has announced that they will not be filing charges against kneecap despite their

00:06:43.220 overt support for terrorist groups and bob villan is at his most popular ever i think his talent agency

00:06:51.140 has dropped him and i understand that the u.s state department has now canceled his visa

00:06:56.520 he was planning a u.s tour and he's planning to come to canada too i say all this because that is the state

00:07:03.880 of political discourse on the bbc in pop culture in the music biz and all of it is madly applauded and

00:07:11.820 at most some tut tutting by police compare that to a mother named lucy connelly who momentarily had a

00:07:20.200 tweet using intemperate words in reaction to the stabbing of young girls by a muslim convert

00:07:27.640 in southport some months ago lucy connelly for a tweet that she quickly deleted was sentenced to 31

00:07:36.020 months in prison 31 months in prison a decision that was upheld by an appeal court welcome to two

00:07:44.600 tier united kingdom what a place to be and joining us now is one of my favorite guys who i think is the

00:07:51.520 personification of the british spirit you gotta love him his name is david atherton he's a freelance

00:07:57.220 journalist and he joins us now david great to see you thank you it's always a pleasure to talk to you

00:08:02.820 have you ever been to glastonbury or is it just not your style

00:08:06.980 oh god i got a full 400 quid that's just the cheap seats yeah 400 to get in the cheap seats it really is

00:08:15.060 the fanciest people i saw uh some crowd shots and i've got nothing against white people i'm white myself

00:08:21.600 but this really was the whitest richest i guess you would say middle class even some posh people

00:08:27.980 this was i think people um cosplaying as progressives i think they were enjoying the

00:08:36.100 frisson of uh you know badness of cheering for hezbollah uh from their you know these are people

00:08:44.020 who work behind desks often for the government often for ngos and this was they get to play act as

00:08:50.020 being bad boys for the weekend but they fully embraced anti-semitism and i think anti-britishism

00:08:55.180 that's my take what do you think oh i agree with you on that you know it's it's a liberal left of

00:09:00.180 prayer so to speak isn't it um you know it's uh as far as i'm concerned but these are the people that

00:09:07.540 have a part of the marxists who have marched long through through the institutions have all these

00:09:13.440 woke ideologies and love to have trans kids and uh they're right on and uh they're all pro-palestinian 0.88

00:09:19.880 they're all they're all anti-semitic they're all anti-israel the most appalling people in the 0.98

00:09:24.160 world and the people i despise the most and also one of the things that uh that bob viner did was 0.98

00:09:30.260 you know he said one of these was you know one of the phrases that people on the center right use

00:09:35.060 we want to take our country back and he absolutely was contemptuous of that phrase the fact that british

00:09:41.120 people won't be ruled uh ruled by if you like british with the british culture that that to my

00:09:46.900 mind was equally as offensive so on the way he he went about things though the debt the death to 0.99

00:09:53.360 idf was bad enough but um you know he really did back to complete horlicks himself a complete idiot 0.97

00:09:59.680 himself and he's he's paying the price for it and also by the way his record companies dropped him as 0.97

00:10:04.520 well it's not only his management his record company has dropped him as well and when when the

00:10:09.200 glassbury festival and the bbc both both apologize for his performance you know they you know they've

00:10:15.140 done quite a bit wrong so well i take your point that certain musical establishments are now

00:10:22.120 distancing themselves but i think he's probably more popular now than ever he's got more publicity now

00:10:29.260 than ever and the in the age of the internet i think he's gonna do very well i mean kneecap

00:10:36.280 the harder and the crazier they go the more pro-terrors they go the more free headlines they

00:10:41.980 get i mean they're not particularly good musically but like i mean look across the pond in new york city

00:10:48.080 you've got zoran mamdani uh a communist uh palestinian uh pro-palestinian extremist

00:10:56.620 is leading the polls to be the mayor so i think that the old establishment is distancing himself but

00:11:03.860 these are the princes of the new establishment and the worse they are the more they're it's it's

00:11:09.560 like that i don't know if you followed it in the uk this murderer luigi this accused murderer

00:11:14.960 who walked up to a health care ceo and just shot him assassinated him in broad daylight has been

00:11:21.560 turned into a kind of sex symbol hero by the left and and i think there's a madness afoot is that going

00:11:28.000 on in the uk to the same extent well it just was to a great extent the most horrible thing about bob

00:11:35.700 violent's um performance was was anti-semitism has now gone mainstream everyone feels comfortable

00:11:42.440 the anti-semitic um you might i don't know whether i mentioned it uh but i'm actually of jewish heritage

00:11:49.480 myself on my mother's side going back to 1656 in britain it will be in england then it would have been in

00:11:55.560 in that time i don't get that much that much anti-semitic abuse by getting up to get to be

00:12:01.840 getting on with it kind of thing so no this is this is really is britain has re-duck itself a hole

00:12:08.460 when it when it comes to who can have an opinion who can't have an opinion who gets cancelled for

00:12:13.540 having an opinion who doesn't get cancelled cancelled for an opinion you know by the way i should

00:12:18.120 sorry very briefly i should i should also point out that uh even ofcom have actually uh will be

00:12:25.440 investigating the bbc because it went out live in the afternoon uh when it was supposed to be the

00:12:29.940 family audience i think they swore as well so um they could really you really could be and them and

00:12:34.820 the bbc really could be in trouble you know one of the tough things here is censorship because i think

00:12:42.000 you and me both believe in freedom of speech i and i'm not sure if i would want the government to

00:12:48.160 ban anti-semitic comments i think supporting a terrorist group buying a terrorist flag saying

00:12:53.620 you know up with hamas up with hezbollah that might go beyond free speech to actual material support for 0.70

00:12:59.720 a terrorist group and and i have no problem with the u.s keeping out foreign troublemakers but i i do 0.84

00:13:07.680 still have free speech instincts even for those who are vile like this bob villain but well actually 0.80

00:13:13.140 actually i do actually agree with you actually because you know you know the idf is an entity

00:13:18.560 if i if i said you know death to the taliban i don't think anyone would be bothered about it

00:13:23.900 no but you know the same death to the idf no if you said you know death to captain owen who's you know

00:13:29.760 who works in the parachute regiment of the idf that obviously should be illegal but because it's a body

00:13:34.820 because it's an entity maybe that should not be a prosecutable offense well here's my point and it's

00:13:41.680 the reason i mentioned lucy connelly is the united kingdom is becoming more and more censorship 0.98

00:13:47.480 oriented that the times of london says literally every day there are 30 police actions involving a

00:13:55.200 non-crime hate incident 30 a day such an astonishing large number some cases like lucy connelly's are the

00:14:04.120 most extreme and at the same time they you know brush aside ignore or or tolerate extreme uh

00:14:15.460 you know bigotry hate pro-terrorism commentary i i i think there's a two-tier system here at play i mean

00:14:24.320 you mentioned ofcom here in canada we would refer to that as the crtc it's the broadcast regulator that

00:14:31.020 reviews shows they beat up gb news they beat up mark stein on gb news for interviewing a client

00:14:38.280 a covid skeptic like they they jump on nigel farage for not being balanced so they're they they're

00:14:45.240 exquisitely curious if there's a conservative who says something that's just edgy although none of the

00:14:52.420 people i mentioned have said anything like f the jews or or whatever but they're just absolutely timid to

00:14:58.600 take on a crowd of tens of thousands of cheering hamas supporters i think they're afraid i think

00:15:04.720 they're politically afraid that's my beef with the uk it's a two-tiered justice system imagine if tommy

00:15:10.100 robinson had said those things that bob villan had said we did even back up for 10 years for that

00:15:16.820 and by the way i i seem to be the only person who's come up with this unique unique theory what's

00:15:23.300 what's going on um in the world or what we with his brother what have you is i think at the moment

00:15:29.280 the west is going through a spot of uh spot of um stockholm syndrome whereby um because there's large

00:15:37.180 amounts of often aggressive and sometimes violent uh muslims in in europe it seems to be the best way 1.00

00:15:43.340 to appease them is to be anti-israel and pro-hammus that's my theory for what it's worth 0.99

00:15:48.900 no one else has no one else has uh has mentioned it um but you know that's my theory you know

00:15:54.660 people in the west are supporting um uh hamas out of um out of self-protection uh you know as a means

00:16:03.040 of self-protection i should say and when you move on to two-tier uh two-tier policing and two-tier

00:16:09.980 justice you know uh kiss sakir starmer opened up the courts 24 hours uh 24 hours a day seven days a

00:16:19.580 week until he banged up as many people as he could there were people there at peter lynch uh he was

00:16:26.020 just standing around abuse verbally abusing the police and he was given two years in jail and in

00:16:32.560 jail because he was under threat from from uh from muslim inmates he committed suicide by hanging 1.00

00:16:37.400 that's absolutely disgusting it's not only him there's wayne o'rourke you know he's serving three 0.91

00:16:42.980 years he said he's serving three years at the moment and the worst thing he said was um about he

00:16:49.280 commented on burning cars and he said let's have some more let's have some more of that or go on lads

00:16:55.520 he was encouraging people that he shouldn't have said that he's wrong to say that he should be

00:17:02.000 punished for it but it should not be three years and i i think what starmer felt at the time of

00:17:08.680 when actual cabal and murdered those three little girls was he knew how angry we were and we still

00:17:14.020 remain angry and the fact that tommy romerson was banged up for such a long time and treated so

00:17:19.220 horribly which brought him on torture so it's all welling up and the fact the fact the labor party

00:17:24.060 were against were against the national grooming inquiry when they're gonna have blood all over their

00:17:28.920 hands or something like that the labor council deliberately went out and covered it up some

00:17:33.160 councils were actually involved in in the abuse of the girls themselves and certainly a lot of the

00:17:38.020 lot of the counselors that actually were actively involved in suppressing it along with the police

00:17:42.720 and social workers who didn't want what we thought was being racist and lose their jobs should they

00:17:47.560 should they have to do it properly and you know and an even measure as opposed to a two-tier measure

00:17:51.800 um you know an example that there were there was some uh there were there are two two left-wing

00:17:57.860 oriented i'm saying left-wing oriented but but two none so-called far-right um people um ricky jones

00:18:05.440 he was seen at uh in one of the post um post uh southport riots and drawing his finger across his

00:18:13.040 throat yeah he was a labor counselor wasn't he labor counselor yeah he's not he's not he's not in court until

00:18:18.660 the 30th of august yeah you know if he if he'd been a so-called far-right protester he wouldn't

00:18:24.400 have banged up and given four years in jail but there's there were two muslim guys who were coming

00:18:28.600 back from coming back from manchester airport and they got in a fight with the police and you know

00:18:35.120 they broke the nose of a policewoman um and uh they also assaulted another another officer

00:18:41.460 so it was a secure area of the airport as well high security area area of the airport

00:18:46.360 and they started a fight and then and they actually they're actually in court today and as far as we're

00:18:53.000 concerned 31 months which is what lucy connolly got is the bar for these people but i'm telling you what

00:18:59.020 we're going to see two-tier justice here they're probably get probably going to get suspended sentences

00:19:03.860 or maybe three to three to six months at the very best now the world is watching them and we know

00:19:11.480 full well that justice will not be served yeah you know the attorney general in the united kingdom

00:19:17.040 is a lawyer named richard hermer who before he became a labor mp he represented a series of terrorists

00:19:25.900 i mean that was his specialty is representing anti-british terrorists and i suppose one could say

00:19:31.060 everyone deserves a lawyer just because you defend a murderer doesn't mean you're pro-murderer

00:19:35.900 but he seems to have taken this ideology with him into the office and the other day he says it's

00:19:42.140 quote disgusting to claim there's a two-tier justice system in the uk that's not a refutation

00:19:48.120 to say you are disgusting me by accusing me of being double standard that's not a refutation that's an 0.95

00:19:54.720 emotional reaction that's an insult that's like that's an empty insult you you were he's saying how

00:20:00.520 he feels when he hears it but but i don't think he can deny it and i think in the days ahead we'll see

00:20:05.200 that even more clearly but i think one of the reasons there's a two-tier system is because the

00:20:10.960 demographics i saw the other day sorry yesterday a labor uh cabinet minister cabinet secretary who was

00:20:18.740 uh asked by a journalist to you know how can you abide this and she started by saying well the israeli

00:20:26.580 embassy is quite concerned and instead of talking about bob villain and kneecap he immediately launches

00:20:34.780 into a tirade against israel instead of i mean frustrating and and i thought and then i i learned a

00:20:42.600 little more about this mp he won his riding by just 500 votes and the second place candidate was not a

00:20:50.600 tory or a reformer it was an independent muslim candidate there are five candidates in the british

00:20:57.360 parliament who are not with any normal party they they ran basically on a lend gaza your vote campaign

00:21:06.380 anyway before i explain more of that take a look at this mp his shocking reaction when asked to justify

00:21:13.600 anti-semitism in the uk and then when you learn that he only squeaked in by 500 votes against an

00:21:21.180 avowedly islamist candidate it all makes sense here take a look at that the israeli embassy says what

00:21:27.220 happened at glastonbury uh raises questions about the glorification of violence do you agree i think

00:21:34.620 that is a challenge and that's why i don't think anyone should be cheering it on i'd also say to

00:21:38.760 the israeli embassy get your own house in order what happened in the west bank this week by israeli

00:21:44.540 settler terrorists needs to not only be condemned it needs to be acted upon and israel cannot continue 1.00

00:21:50.060 to look the other way while its own people are carrying out unwanted acts of terrorism and violence 0.55

00:21:55.200 they wouldn't tolerate it rightly against their own citizens their citizens are doing it to

00:22:00.080 palestinians and it's got to stop so i i think what's going on is demographics and we have that

00:22:04.200 in canada too not as pronounced melanie jolie our former foreign minister explained um her politics

00:22:11.380 on the middle east by just saying look at the demographics in my riding and i think every day in

00:22:16.980 the uk a thousand more people cross over in dinghies and i don't know how many of them are anti-semitic

00:22:24.100 violent pro-terrorists is it a hundred out of the thousand or is it 900 out of the thousand we don't

00:22:31.100 know because they don't often say who they really are they often dump their documents in the sea

00:22:36.360 let me ask about that keir starmer the british prime minister in reaction to some reform uk wins

00:22:42.800 recently gave a speech where he said we're becoming a nation of strangers we don't know each other

00:22:48.700 too many boats it was quite a bold speech i thought he's not going to do anything and just in the last

00:22:54.380 week he's reversed course he's apologized for saying for giving that speech which i thought was

00:23:01.220 actually a beautiful speech i didn't believe he meant it but he he apologized for saying the uk is

00:23:08.440 now a nation of strangers which it absolutely is and which canada now is too okay well there are two

00:23:15.320 silver linings in in the multicultural card in britain at the moment um the oversaw window has

00:23:21.520 shifted so far to the right uh that you could well um that you can now discuss anything that even

00:23:29.580 talking about even talk about the forced repatriation of migrants you can talk about openly these days

00:23:35.100 um it's you know these buzzwords re-emigration and also the other the other silver lining of the

00:23:41.540 cloud is um if reform if if there if there was a um uh if there was a uh general election tomorrow

00:23:49.520 the reform party will have a clear majority nigel farage will be prime minister and he'll have a

00:23:57.480 working majority and he can he can pass as many laws you know as he likes and i hope he i think he's

00:24:03.500 also got got the great repeal act underway which means say he'll be reversing most of the uh legislation

00:24:09.000 that tony blair brought in so ruinously this night in 1997 um so you know we've got to put up this

00:24:15.040 another four years of flaming keir starmer but you know i really can't see keir starmer improving

00:24:21.400 many people think that keir starmer will be will be gone inside a year um and it's about flaming time

00:24:27.580 as well i'm just i'm choosing what i'm most very carefully in my adjectives at the moment that's right

00:24:31.400 you know um it's incredible how quickly keir starmer has imploded uh and nigel farage is a major

00:24:38.240 resource that and he keeps winning these little by elections or or town councils i was up there in

00:24:43.240 runcorn and helsby when he um won that important by election and i brought back with me some of his

00:24:49.880 campaign literature just to refer to it and his his number one line was freeze immigration stop the

00:24:58.600 boats like he couldn't be clearer and i really think that's where most brits are and i think that is

00:25:07.160 what sets nigel farage apart from let's say canada's conservative leader pierre polyev who isn't

00:25:12.980 willing to say freeze immigration trump said it plus plus plus mass repatriation he used the word

00:25:21.280 re-migration the other day i'd never seen trump i have never seen any world leader use the word

00:25:27.860 re-migration maybe they do in sweden and denmark i understand they're paying people to go home

00:25:32.700 here's my question for you i like nigel farage and he i think he's the only guy who can do it

00:25:38.540 and the other day he said if i fail uh beware of what comes after me which i is his way of saying

00:25:45.120 look i'm trying to work within the system i'm trying to keep upset people positive and constructive

00:25:50.680 and we're going through your system but if you stop me um what comes after me will be much rougher

00:25:57.720 and i i think he's right um my one worry about nigel i think he's got the personality to win he's 0.97

00:26:03.880 got total name recognition in the uk he's got some victories under his belt first of all brexit second

00:26:09.740 of all his battle against the banks i thought was wonderful but my worry about him is sometimes he

00:26:15.160 sort of it's like he gets spooked by things being too right wing and i remember he gave an interview

00:26:20.840 with steve edgington of gb news where he said he was not for mass deportations let me just go

00:26:26.580 show you a quick clip of that do you support that mass deportations trump says in america that he

00:26:31.460 wants mass deportations we're talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are in britain

00:26:35.220 at the moment some estimates say the number could even be in you know a million plus so do you support

00:26:40.320 deporting all of those people it's impossible to do literally impossible to do um but do we have to

00:26:46.580 begin the process yes look we're told that we can't send people back to afghanistan right that's 0.99

00:26:51.200 impossible well germany two weeks ago did germany sent a plane load of people back to afghanistan

00:26:58.420 you know if the germans can do it i'm certainly sure we can but if the americans can do it for

00:27:04.220 example you know in america they they are able to deport a lot of people i know they haven't under

00:27:09.200 this administration but trump was able to it's not totally impossible is it i mean it should be an

00:27:13.620 ambition at least is it your ambition the mass deportations in america really happened under

00:27:18.860 eisenhower where back in the 50s he deported over a million people who'd come to america illegally

00:27:24.940 um for us at the moment it's a political impossibility but is it your ambition no

00:27:31.880 no yeah i'm not going to get dragged down the route of mass deportations or anything like that

00:27:38.500 um i think it's pretty clear there are a lot of people that have come who should not be given

00:27:44.040 leave to remain it's a heck of a job it's a heck of a job i i i i just think with the backlogs

00:27:52.580 with all the problems we've got you know we've got to go down the tony abbott route we've got you

00:27:57.340 know the australian prime minister who stopped this we've absolutely got to be clear we won't accept this

00:28:01.860 we won't be we know we're not going to put people in hotels uh we have to start somewhere now he's

00:28:06.920 since firmed up on that but you know reform uk is really one guy it doesn't they've got i know

00:28:15.760 they've got half a dozen mps now but they've also kicked out people i mean they they have a lot of

00:28:21.440 personnel turnover and it really is a one-man show and in in a way that's a strength because

00:28:27.020 nagel farage is an outstanding political communicator perhaps the best in the uk

00:28:31.540 but on the other hand it means he's susceptible the party's susceptible to his whims maybe

00:28:37.140 next week he'll be more pro-islam if he has a big muslim donor which he recently got i'm just worried

00:28:45.060 he did he did he did want to say that he did want to say that he wanted it was a recent agreement

00:28:49.060 with with his political islamic britain could you say that again i'm sorry oh yeah sorry um he did

00:28:56.260 say he wanted to come to an understanding with political islam in britain yeah and i don't know

00:29:02.520 what that means i mean uh there are there are british they mean halfway you know i understand

00:29:08.500 understand where they're coming from and address their concerns yeah i mean listen if you're a british

00:29:13.840 citizen you have the right to be heard and that's the thing when you let people into your country and

00:29:17.900 when you naturalize them they do have the right to vote and they have the right to run and and when

00:29:22.340 they make up 40 50 percent of a district don't be shocked if they have a pro-gaza political party

00:29:28.220 because these folks are not assimilating um this is all happening at once you've got mass immigration

00:29:34.100 largely from muslim countries you have people finally speaking out about rape gangs that were

00:29:40.620 disproportionately migrants and and frankly muslims you have censorship being brought in to stop it 1.00

00:29:47.240 but people sing through it and i think that's one of the reasons why elon musk is so important

00:29:51.540 and and the u.s state department they don't seem to be um collapsing in the face of european

00:29:59.380 demands for censorship i think there's going to be a showdown david you've got trump elon musk

00:30:03.820 marco rubio jd vance saying we want freedom for social media users around the world

00:30:10.820 if they use our american platforms yeah then you've got keir starmer the eu saying no no that's not the

00:30:19.940 european way i think a big free speech showdown is coming because free speech is the tool that'll

00:30:25.900 give you marine le pen here builders victor orban i think free speech is the only tool that the

00:30:34.300 nationalist populist right needs to win well the whole that's the whole point whether it's social

00:30:39.400 media or anywhere else we're winning hands down we've got we've got the arguments um the thing about

00:30:45.240 the left is they're always in their echo chamber and their ivory towers you know contemplating their

00:30:50.420 navels and when it comes to arguing their case and their point of the manifesto they're completely

00:30:55.280 lost um but i'll just just pitch just pick you up on nigel farage if i if i can i i i think nigel

00:31:02.260 farage has worked out he has the uh the working class and people class right-wing vote in his pocket

00:31:08.520 what i think nigel farage is doing now is is trying to appeal to the more socialist left-leading

00:31:14.740 people like the social democrats and and the old-time labor party i think that's his target

00:31:19.860 audience here at the moment and maybe a few conservatives as well so i know no i i i i was

00:31:25.700 very disappointed very disappointed when he said he said he wouldn't be looking at deporting illegal

00:31:31.100 migrants he again has walked that back and said well perhaps we will you know whatever um because

00:31:36.140 rupert lowe stuck the boot in and he got loads and loads of clicks and views for his point on

00:31:41.080 saying that one but i i i trust nigel nigel farage's instinct i think he's on the right track and i 0.73

00:31:48.140 just think at the moment he's trying to try to soften his stance he's trying to make yourself soft and

00:31:52.680 cut soft and cut to women the lady who won the run corn by-election sarah poche you don't see her

00:31:58.720 off the telly you know she is the go-to um go-to reform party spokesman at the moment so no he's i think

00:32:05.180 i think he's you know he doesn't want to fight the horses he does want doesn't want to upset the

00:32:09.920 apple cart so um i think he's doing particularly well on that you know it's very interesting me to

00:32:16.380 me to see a few mps from a variety of parties speaking out rupert lowe you mentioned was with

00:32:23.420 reform he he's no longer in reform but he's in parliament he's speaking very boldly he's got this

00:32:28.460 independent inquiry i just forgot the name of the the conservative party he was he challenged

00:32:33.620 leadership uh he he didn't beat kemi badenoch but robert jenrich robert jenrich that's right

00:32:39.480 and he's just on social media making these very powerful videos i mean he's coming out with one

00:32:46.880 week it's sort of the same thing pierre paulia did in canada which is having fairly meaty videos direct

00:32:53.520 to social media he's not even talking to the press here let me throw one on the screen to take a look

00:32:58.000 i think this guy's really good i sort of wish he had won the conservative leadership take a look

00:33:02.500 let me tell you something about the housing crisis that nobody ever talks about if you live here in

00:33:08.360 london you're paying an estimated 216 pounds in rent every single month due to the demand from

00:33:15.500 immigration since 2001 that's two and a half grand every year across england you're paying 132 pounds

00:33:24.440 extra every month this is according to first of its kind research from onward which has shown the link

00:33:31.100 between mass migration and our housing crisis just think of what you could do with that kind of money

00:33:36.600 the truth is we'll never be able to build our way out of the housing crisis if demand from immigration 1.00

00:33:41.140 stays this high in 2022 alone we'd have needed to build 515 000 new homes just to keep up with new

00:33:48.220 arrivals look i am as pro housing as anyone but that is just not possible limited high-skilled migration is

00:33:55.480 a good thing for young people but we've seen for far too long mass unskilled migration putting pressure

00:34:00.640 on public services at months the truth is that makes young people poorer and home ownership

00:34:05.440 unobtainable uncontrolled migration isn't working for anyone in this country and it's time we put a 0.99

00:34:11.380 stop to it so the interesting thing is these folks are allowed to do this uh jenrik as you say he um

00:34:17.940 you know his leader kemi badenok is tolerating this i think it's because they see they had 14 years to fix a

00:34:24.980 problem they didn't people don't trust them now that the conservatives look like they're in third

00:34:28.880 place but i like what i i like what they're at least saying now in their impotence and opposition

00:34:34.140 oh okay well i can exclusively reveal to uh to rebel news kind of i i had this off the record

00:34:41.360 conversation uh funnily enough um uh last week actually and i was chatting to a special advisor

00:34:48.260 uh i better not be someone quite someone quite senior and you know i said you know have you guys

00:34:55.040 seen the light you know are you like soul on the road to damascus you know the blinding lights come

00:34:59.740 out you realize that you know it's wasted 14 years you gotta apologize for it and are you genuine uh

00:35:06.420 genuine in uh looking to sort of mend your ways and and and improve the policy and implement the

00:35:12.760 policies that we all want uh the shadow home secretary chris philpe has uh has um uh definitely

00:35:18.000 caught the eye now he's been particularly good on immigration now for example when it comes to your

00:35:22.320 permanent residency after being here five years he's suggested that we adopt the danish model whereby

00:35:27.280 they work out how much you take the benefits how much you paid it paid in tax and if you could

00:35:32.760 and if you cost the country money you don't get your residency and you have to leave um but yeah

00:35:37.620 robert jennerick has been you know he's always been very good and i've always always got the

00:35:42.260 impression with with robert jennerick was always once considered to be sort of the one nation

00:35:47.440 tory wet you i.e on the left of the party he could be appeasing he could be appeasing uh at the time

00:35:53.100 david cameron who was in the prime minister um but i think i think most people are quite

00:35:59.280 willing to give him the benefit of the doubt uh he became a great immigration minister um

00:36:05.820 um um uh for a couple of years and he saw what a complete utter mess i think it was under which

00:36:12.520 he soon that um became an immigration minister and he saw what a mess it was he saw you know

00:36:18.800 how how how our system was being abused he saw um that the civil service were complicit

00:36:25.680 in maximizing the number of people that uh come over here and also the civil service blocking any

00:36:33.040 reform or any new laws but when it when it came to the civil service i'm going to give robert

00:36:37.240 jennerick the benefit of the doubt and say that he's genuine um they also think if there's no

00:36:43.380 improvement in the polls um i think the next set of major elections are may next year uh the local

00:36:50.100 elections and if the conservative party does poorly poorly there uh it's believed that kevin

00:36:56.480 baylock's on is on her way out the major problem you have with the conservative party um in this

00:37:02.080 country is uh it's ruled by cchq conservative central headquarters and these these are the people

00:37:08.700 that have managed to you know they've chosen all these wet candidates and we can sort of sort of 1.00

00:37:13.920 liberal democrat type type type candidates and they were not really true conservatives um there's a

00:37:19.800 couple of guys who have thought to have a disproportionate amount of influence

00:37:23.140 you know over the party even when rishi sunak was prime minister it is also believed um what what

00:37:30.840 what led to the demise of this trust wasn't this so-called peak in bond markets um by you know the

00:37:37.520 price the government has to pay back on interest in fact it's now higher under under racial reason

00:37:42.420 kirstan than it was under this trust but because she wasn't a globalist and wasn't a swamp or a blob

00:37:49.260 type person um they deliberately went out to uh to get her fired this this is really is a real

00:37:56.060 conspiracy um and she's nearly enough a sentence a list trust has didn't he said enough um you know

00:38:03.020 in public you know when she's been doing interviews she puts it a lot more softly than me but you get

00:38:08.500 the overwhelming impression um and yes it was andrew bailey the bank of england who really sits her up

00:38:13.640 the most let's name in shame yeah i want to close by uh quoting pierre polyev who just uh over the

00:38:21.200 weekend made a tweet that he the pierre polyev even six months ago would never have had the courage to

00:38:27.720 say let me read it to you in full we need massive and immediate reduction in incoming international

00:38:36.020 students we do not have housing jobs and health care yet the carny liberals continue with another half

00:38:42.500 million students this year immigration levels must be cut to bring down population while we focus on 1.00

00:38:48.420 jobs homes and health care for canadians now that's good as far as it goes but it doesn't talk about

00:38:53.660 half a million temporary foreign workers hundreds of thousands of fake refugees and then half a million

00:38:59.960 quote normal migrants there's two million people coming into our country every year half the population

00:39:05.640 of the uk but we actually have more migrants than they do but the firmness of this tweet if this is how

00:39:11.980 pierre polyev had been talking during the last election he would have been able to change the

00:39:17.760 subject from the official regime media which wanted to say only mark carney can defeat the evil donald

00:39:24.440 trump and save us so he would have switched off that trump channel and on to turf where the liberals

00:39:30.320 couldn't match him the fact that keir starmer had to walk back his nation of strangers comment shows that

00:39:35.900 that the liberal party is so beholden to immigration now it can't follow conservatives there so i think

00:39:43.160 pierre polyev if he learns from the uk if he learns from here builders and victor orban and he learns from

00:39:50.840 the success stories he might win that's my last thought last word to you david well i it's just such a shame

00:39:57.860 for the canadian people pierre wasn't elected no i mean it's often i criticized trump but he did not

00:40:03.160 put his foot in it did he yeah you know um yeah i i i was so just like no he because he was sitting

00:40:09.380 so far ahead so far ahead of the polls wasn't he yeah 20 points until until yeah i know so you know

00:40:15.480 regime change you know party change in canada was totally desperate i read that since carney's come to

00:40:21.720 power 800 800 000 new people have arrived in canada that's what i read myself that's true

00:40:29.360 that's shocking and true well listen david thanks for being such a good sport and chatting with us

00:40:35.180 and i i love the uk i love ireland i love learning from these places i love the history

00:40:39.880 and what you're going through now i'm trying to understand how it might apply to our country so

00:40:46.700 hopefully we can learn from your painful lessons although i think we're now the masters

00:40:51.080 in painful lessons and hopefully we can fix it great to see you my friend and you pleasure as

00:40:57.520 as always all right there he is david atherton freelance journalist pundit and all around good

00:41:03.600 egg that's our show for the day i hope you've enjoyed canada day until tomorrow on behalf of all

00:41:08.640 of us here at rebel world headquarters so you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

00:41:21.080 and keep fighting for freedom and we'll see you next time

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Rebel News Podcast - July 01, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is free speech in the UK reserved solely for the elite？

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