EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is free speech in the UK reserved solely for the elite？
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The latest on two-tier justice, free speech, and mass immigration in the United Kingdom, a feature interview with David Atherton, a troublemaker freelance journalist in the UK who hates the place he lives in, England.
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Hello, my friends. Fun interview with David Atherton today. He's a rogue, troublemaking freelance journalist in the UK. He's got a lot to say about freedom of speech, mass immigration, the Islamification of the public square, things like that. He's got a lovely accent, which I love to hear on my ears. It might require you to pay closer attention because he doesn't speak like a Canadian. He's not a Canuck, but he's going to give us some insights into the UK.
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Tonight, the latest on two-tiered justice, free speech, and mass immigration in the United Kingdom, a feature interview with David Atherton. It's July 1st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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You're ready for freedom! Shame on you, you censorious bug!
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Well, in the United States, there's a pretty cool music festival that's become super corporate. It's called Burning Man. It's in the middle of the desert.
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Tickets sell for thousands of dollars, depending on the kind of fancy tent you want, but that's nothing compared to the UK version of that festival called Glastonbury.
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400 pounds, that's almost $700, for a regular ticket. This is not a poor people's concert. It's for the fancy people, and one of the observations people always make is that
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the politics of Glastonbury are very much left-wing, progressive, exhibitionist, virtue-signaling, luxury beliefs that come with a luxury concert.
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For example, the security around Glastonbury is enormous. Very tall fences, high-security gates, while inside they talk about having no-borders-style open immigration.
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It's quite something. It's always been left-wing, but yesterday hit a new low. Take a look at this singer from the band called Bob Villain.
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I wonder if he knows that his riff on Bob Dylan, that Bob Dylan was a Jew named Robert Zimmerman. I don't think he knows, and he might change the name if he knew,
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because let me just sum it up. That guy doesn't really like Jews, and he doesn't really like England either. I'm going to play two clips from him.
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Here he is, chanting for the globalization of the Intifada and the ethnic cleansing of Israel. Here, take a listen.
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All right, but have you heard this one, though?
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Hell yeah, from the river to the sea, Palestine must be, will be, inshallah, it will be.
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Yeah, you don't normally hear someone calling for chants of death outside of Gaza, but there it is, amongst the fanciest in the UK, and they just cheered.
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But it's not just the Jews he has in his targets.
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Although he himself was actually born in the UK, he despises the place.
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Trying to lay claim to a land that ain't theirs anyway
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it was an approved musical act by glastonbury and it was of a piece with other pro-terrorist acts
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and i say pro-terrorism i'm not using that as an insult that is an observation there's a
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irish band called kneecap named after the tactic of shooting people in the knees their lead singer
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is almost 40 so he wears a face covering balaclava to appear younger and more menacing
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um kneecap uh they go much further they they don't dispense with using the word zionist they
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just come right out and say it therefore the terrorist groups hamas and hezbollah they're
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not afraid to show it here's a clip of them they were playing over the weekend in glastonbury
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and here they are in the united kingdom actually breaking out a terrorist flag which is quite
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something i mean if i said to you can you acquire a terrorist flag you would probably say i'm not sure
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how to do that these guys figured it out and they were only too happy to fly it take a look
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well lots of humming and hawing the day afterwards but the met police which is a large police force in
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the united kingdom has announced that they will not be filing charges against kneecap despite their
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overt support for terrorist groups and bob villan is at his most popular ever i think his talent agency
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has dropped him and i understand that the u.s state department has now canceled his visa
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he was planning a u.s tour and he's planning to come to canada too i say all this because that is the state
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of political discourse on the bbc in pop culture in the music biz and all of it is madly applauded and
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at most some tut tutting by police compare that to a mother named lucy connelly who momentarily had a
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tweet using intemperate words in reaction to the stabbing of young girls by a muslim convert
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in southport some months ago lucy connelly for a tweet that she quickly deleted was sentenced to 31
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months in prison 31 months in prison a decision that was upheld by an appeal court welcome to two
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tier united kingdom what a place to be and joining us now is one of my favorite guys who i think is the
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personification of the british spirit you gotta love him his name is david atherton he's a freelance
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journalist and he joins us now david great to see you thank you it's always a pleasure to talk to you
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have you ever been to glastonbury or is it just not your style
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oh god i got a full 400 quid that's just the cheap seats yeah 400 to get in the cheap seats it really is
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the fanciest people i saw uh some crowd shots and i've got nothing against white people i'm white myself
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but this really was the whitest richest i guess you would say middle class even some posh people
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this was i think people um cosplaying as progressives i think they were enjoying the
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frisson of uh you know badness of cheering for hezbollah uh from their you know these are people
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who work behind desks often for the government often for ngos and this was they get to play act as
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being bad boys for the weekend but they fully embraced anti-semitism and i think anti-britishism
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that's my take what do you think oh i agree with you on that you know it's it's a liberal left of
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prayer so to speak isn't it um you know it's uh as far as i'm concerned but these are the people that
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have a part of the marxists who have marched long through through the institutions have all these
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woke ideologies and love to have trans kids and uh they're right on and uh they're all pro-palestinian
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they're all they're all anti-semitic they're all anti-israel the most appalling people in the
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world and the people i despise the most and also one of the things that uh that bob viner did was
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you know he said one of these was you know one of the phrases that people on the center right use
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we want to take our country back and he absolutely was contemptuous of that phrase the fact that british
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people won't be ruled uh ruled by if you like british with the british culture that that to my
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mind was equally as offensive so on the way he he went about things though the debt the death to
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idf was bad enough but um you know he really did back to complete horlicks himself a complete idiot
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himself and he's he's paying the price for it and also by the way his record companies dropped him as
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well it's not only his management his record company has dropped him as well and when when the
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glassbury festival and the bbc both both apologize for his performance you know they you know they've
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done quite a bit wrong so well i take your point that certain musical establishments are now
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distancing themselves but i think he's probably more popular now than ever he's got more publicity now
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than ever and the in the age of the internet i think he's gonna do very well i mean kneecap
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the harder and the crazier they go the more pro-terrors they go the more free headlines they
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get i mean they're not particularly good musically but like i mean look across the pond in new york city
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you've got zoran mamdani uh a communist uh palestinian uh pro-palestinian extremist
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is leading the polls to be the mayor so i think that the old establishment is distancing himself but
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these are the princes of the new establishment and the worse they are the more they're it's it's
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like that i don't know if you followed it in the uk this murderer luigi this accused murderer
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who walked up to a health care ceo and just shot him assassinated him in broad daylight has been
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turned into a kind of sex symbol hero by the left and and i think there's a madness afoot is that going
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on in the uk to the same extent well it just was to a great extent the most horrible thing about bob
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violent's um performance was was anti-semitism has now gone mainstream everyone feels comfortable
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the anti-semitic um you might i don't know whether i mentioned it uh but i'm actually of jewish heritage
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myself on my mother's side going back to 1656 in britain it will be in england then it would have been in
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in that time i don't get that much that much anti-semitic abuse by getting up to get to be
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getting on with it kind of thing so no this is this is really is britain has re-duck itself a hole
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when it when it comes to who can have an opinion who can't have an opinion who gets cancelled for
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having an opinion who doesn't get cancelled cancelled for an opinion you know by the way i should
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sorry very briefly i should i should also point out that uh even ofcom have actually uh will be
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investigating the bbc because it went out live in the afternoon uh when it was supposed to be the
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family audience i think they swore as well so um they could really you really could be and them and
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the bbc really could be in trouble you know one of the tough things here is censorship because i think
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you and me both believe in freedom of speech i and i'm not sure if i would want the government to
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ban anti-semitic comments i think supporting a terrorist group buying a terrorist flag saying
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you know up with hamas up with hezbollah that might go beyond free speech to actual material support for
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a terrorist group and and i have no problem with the u.s keeping out foreign troublemakers but i i do
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still have free speech instincts even for those who are vile like this bob villain but well actually
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actually i do actually agree with you actually because you know you know the idf is an entity
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if i if i said you know death to the taliban i don't think anyone would be bothered about it
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no but you know the same death to the idf no if you said you know death to captain owen who's you know
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who works in the parachute regiment of the idf that obviously should be illegal but because it's a body
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because it's an entity maybe that should not be a prosecutable offense well here's my point and it's
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the reason i mentioned lucy connelly is the united kingdom is becoming more and more censorship
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oriented that the times of london says literally every day there are 30 police actions involving a
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non-crime hate incident 30 a day such an astonishing large number some cases like lucy connelly's are the
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most extreme and at the same time they you know brush aside ignore or or tolerate extreme uh
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you know bigotry hate pro-terrorism commentary i i i think there's a two-tier system here at play i mean
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you mentioned ofcom here in canada we would refer to that as the crtc it's the broadcast regulator that
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reviews shows they beat up gb news they beat up mark stein on gb news for interviewing a client
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a covid skeptic like they they jump on nigel farage for not being balanced so they're they they're
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exquisitely curious if there's a conservative who says something that's just edgy although none of the
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people i mentioned have said anything like f the jews or or whatever but they're just absolutely timid to
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take on a crowd of tens of thousands of cheering hamas supporters i think they're afraid i think
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they're politically afraid that's my beef with the uk it's a two-tiered justice system imagine if tommy
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robinson had said those things that bob villan had said we did even back up for 10 years for that
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and by the way i i seem to be the only person who's come up with this unique unique theory what's
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what's going on um in the world or what we with his brother what have you is i think at the moment
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the west is going through a spot of uh spot of um stockholm syndrome whereby um because there's large
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amounts of often aggressive and sometimes violent uh muslims in in europe it seems to be the best way
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to appease them is to be anti-israel and pro-hammus that's my theory for what it's worth
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no one else has no one else has uh has mentioned it um but you know that's my theory you know
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people in the west are supporting um uh hamas out of um out of self-protection uh you know as a means
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of self-protection i should say and when you move on to two-tier uh two-tier policing and two-tier
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justice you know uh kiss sakir starmer opened up the courts 24 hours uh 24 hours a day seven days a
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week until he banged up as many people as he could there were people there at peter lynch uh he was
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just standing around abuse verbally abusing the police and he was given two years in jail and in
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jail because he was under threat from from uh from muslim inmates he committed suicide by hanging
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that's absolutely disgusting it's not only him there's wayne o'rourke you know he's serving three
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years he said he's serving three years at the moment and the worst thing he said was um about he
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commented on burning cars and he said let's have some more let's have some more of that or go on lads
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he was encouraging people that he shouldn't have said that he's wrong to say that he should be
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punished for it but it should not be three years and i i think what starmer felt at the time of
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when actual cabal and murdered those three little girls was he knew how angry we were and we still
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remain angry and the fact that tommy romerson was banged up for such a long time and treated so
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horribly which brought him on torture so it's all welling up and the fact the fact the labor party
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were against were against the national grooming inquiry when they're gonna have blood all over their
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hands or something like that the labor council deliberately went out and covered it up some
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councils were actually involved in in the abuse of the girls themselves and certainly a lot of the
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lot of the counselors that actually were actively involved in suppressing it along with the police
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and social workers who didn't want what we thought was being racist and lose their jobs should they
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should they have to do it properly and you know and an even measure as opposed to a two-tier measure
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um you know an example that there were there was some uh there were there are two two left-wing
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oriented i'm saying left-wing oriented but but two none so-called far-right um people um ricky jones
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he was seen at uh in one of the post um post uh southport riots and drawing his finger across his
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throat yeah he was a labor counselor wasn't he labor counselor yeah he's not he's not he's not in court until
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the 30th of august yeah you know if he if he'd been a so-called far-right protester he wouldn't
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have banged up and given four years in jail but there's there were two muslim guys who were coming
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back from coming back from manchester airport and they got in a fight with the police and you know
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they broke the nose of a policewoman um and uh they also assaulted another another officer
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so it was a secure area of the airport as well high security area area of the airport
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and they started a fight and then and they actually they're actually in court today and as far as we're
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concerned 31 months which is what lucy connolly got is the bar for these people but i'm telling you what
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we're going to see two-tier justice here they're probably get probably going to get suspended sentences
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or maybe three to three to six months at the very best now the world is watching them and we know
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full well that justice will not be served yeah you know the attorney general in the united kingdom
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is a lawyer named richard hermer who before he became a labor mp he represented a series of terrorists
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i mean that was his specialty is representing anti-british terrorists and i suppose one could say
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everyone deserves a lawyer just because you defend a murderer doesn't mean you're pro-murderer
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but he seems to have taken this ideology with him into the office and the other day he says it's
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quote disgusting to claim there's a two-tier justice system in the uk that's not a refutation
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to say you are disgusting me by accusing me of being double standard that's not a refutation that's an
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emotional reaction that's an insult that's like that's an empty insult you you were he's saying how
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he feels when he hears it but but i don't think he can deny it and i think in the days ahead we'll see
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that even more clearly but i think one of the reasons there's a two-tier system is because the
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demographics i saw the other day sorry yesterday a labor uh cabinet minister cabinet secretary who was
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uh asked by a journalist to you know how can you abide this and she started by saying well the israeli
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embassy is quite concerned and instead of talking about bob villain and kneecap he immediately launches
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into a tirade against israel instead of i mean frustrating and and i thought and then i i learned a
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little more about this mp he won his riding by just 500 votes and the second place candidate was not a
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tory or a reformer it was an independent muslim candidate there are five candidates in the british
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parliament who are not with any normal party they they ran basically on a lend gaza your vote campaign
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anyway before i explain more of that take a look at this mp his shocking reaction when asked to justify
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anti-semitism in the uk and then when you learn that he only squeaked in by 500 votes against an
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avowedly islamist candidate it all makes sense here take a look at that the israeli embassy says what
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happened at glastonbury uh raises questions about the glorification of violence do you agree i think
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that is a challenge and that's why i don't think anyone should be cheering it on i'd also say to
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the israeli embassy get your own house in order what happened in the west bank this week by israeli
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settler terrorists needs to not only be condemned it needs to be acted upon and israel cannot continue
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to look the other way while its own people are carrying out unwanted acts of terrorism and violence
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they wouldn't tolerate it rightly against their own citizens their citizens are doing it to
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palestinians and it's got to stop so i i think what's going on is demographics and we have that
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in canada too not as pronounced melanie jolie our former foreign minister explained um her politics
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on the middle east by just saying look at the demographics in my riding and i think every day in
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the uk a thousand more people cross over in dinghies and i don't know how many of them are anti-semitic
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violent pro-terrorists is it a hundred out of the thousand or is it 900 out of the thousand we don't
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know because they don't often say who they really are they often dump their documents in the sea
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let me ask about that keir starmer the british prime minister in reaction to some reform uk wins
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recently gave a speech where he said we're becoming a nation of strangers we don't know each other
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too many boats it was quite a bold speech i thought he's not going to do anything and just in the last
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week he's reversed course he's apologized for saying for giving that speech which i thought was
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actually a beautiful speech i didn't believe he meant it but he he apologized for saying the uk is
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now a nation of strangers which it absolutely is and which canada now is too okay well there are two
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silver linings in in the multicultural card in britain at the moment um the oversaw window has
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shifted so far to the right uh that you could well um that you can now discuss anything that even
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talking about even talk about the forced repatriation of migrants you can talk about openly these days
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um it's you know these buzzwords re-emigration and also the other the other silver lining of the
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cloud is um if reform if if there if there was a um uh if there was a uh general election tomorrow
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the reform party will have a clear majority nigel farage will be prime minister and he'll have a
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working majority and he can he can pass as many laws you know as he likes and i hope he i think he's
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also got got the great repeal act underway which means say he'll be reversing most of the uh legislation
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that tony blair brought in so ruinously this night in 1997 um so you know we've got to put up this
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another four years of flaming keir starmer but you know i really can't see keir starmer improving
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many people think that keir starmer will be will be gone inside a year um and it's about flaming time
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as well i'm just i'm choosing what i'm most very carefully in my adjectives at the moment that's right
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you know um it's incredible how quickly keir starmer has imploded uh and nigel farage is a major
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resource that and he keeps winning these little by elections or or town councils i was up there in
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runcorn and helsby when he um won that important by election and i brought back with me some of his
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campaign literature just to refer to it and his his number one line was freeze immigration stop the
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boats like he couldn't be clearer and i really think that's where most brits are and i think that is
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what sets nigel farage apart from let's say canada's conservative leader pierre polyev who isn't
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willing to say freeze immigration trump said it plus plus plus mass repatriation he used the word
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re-migration the other day i'd never seen trump i have never seen any world leader use the word
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re-migration maybe they do in sweden and denmark i understand they're paying people to go home
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here's my question for you i like nigel farage and he i think he's the only guy who can do it
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and the other day he said if i fail uh beware of what comes after me which i is his way of saying
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look i'm trying to work within the system i'm trying to keep upset people positive and constructive
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and we're going through your system but if you stop me um what comes after me will be much rougher
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and i i think he's right um my one worry about nigel i think he's got the personality to win he's
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got total name recognition in the uk he's got some victories under his belt first of all brexit second
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of all his battle against the banks i thought was wonderful but my worry about him is sometimes he
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sort of it's like he gets spooked by things being too right wing and i remember he gave an interview
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with steve edgington of gb news where he said he was not for mass deportations let me just go
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show you a quick clip of that do you support that mass deportations trump says in america that he
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wants mass deportations we're talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are in britain
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at the moment some estimates say the number could even be in you know a million plus so do you support
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deporting all of those people it's impossible to do literally impossible to do um but do we have to
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begin the process yes look we're told that we can't send people back to afghanistan right that's
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impossible well germany two weeks ago did germany sent a plane load of people back to afghanistan
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you know if the germans can do it i'm certainly sure we can but if the americans can do it for
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example you know in america they they are able to deport a lot of people i know they haven't under
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this administration but trump was able to it's not totally impossible is it i mean it should be an
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ambition at least is it your ambition the mass deportations in america really happened under
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eisenhower where back in the 50s he deported over a million people who'd come to america illegally
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um for us at the moment it's a political impossibility but is it your ambition no
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no yeah i'm not going to get dragged down the route of mass deportations or anything like that
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um i think it's pretty clear there are a lot of people that have come who should not be given
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leave to remain it's a heck of a job it's a heck of a job i i i i just think with the backlogs
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with all the problems we've got you know we've got to go down the tony abbott route we've got you
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know the australian prime minister who stopped this we've absolutely got to be clear we won't accept this
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we won't be we know we're not going to put people in hotels uh we have to start somewhere now he's
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since firmed up on that but you know reform uk is really one guy it doesn't they've got i know
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they've got half a dozen mps now but they've also kicked out people i mean they they have a lot of
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personnel turnover and it really is a one-man show and in in a way that's a strength because
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nagel farage is an outstanding political communicator perhaps the best in the uk
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but on the other hand it means he's susceptible the party's susceptible to his whims maybe
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next week he'll be more pro-islam if he has a big muslim donor which he recently got i'm just worried
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he did he did he did want to say that he did want to say that he wanted it was a recent agreement
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with with his political islamic britain could you say that again i'm sorry oh yeah sorry um he did
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say he wanted to come to an understanding with political islam in britain yeah and i don't know
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what that means i mean uh there are there are british they mean halfway you know i understand
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understand where they're coming from and address their concerns yeah i mean listen if you're a british
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citizen you have the right to be heard and that's the thing when you let people into your country and
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when you naturalize them they do have the right to vote and they have the right to run and and when
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they make up 40 50 percent of a district don't be shocked if they have a pro-gaza political party
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because these folks are not assimilating um this is all happening at once you've got mass immigration
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largely from muslim countries you have people finally speaking out about rape gangs that were
00:29:40.620
disproportionately migrants and and frankly muslims you have censorship being brought in to stop it
00:29:47.240
but people sing through it and i think that's one of the reasons why elon musk is so important
00:29:51.540
and and the u.s state department they don't seem to be um collapsing in the face of european
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demands for censorship i think there's going to be a showdown david you've got trump elon musk
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marco rubio jd vance saying we want freedom for social media users around the world
00:30:10.820
if they use our american platforms yeah then you've got keir starmer the eu saying no no that's not the
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european way i think a big free speech showdown is coming because free speech is the tool that'll
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give you marine le pen here builders victor orban i think free speech is the only tool that the
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nationalist populist right needs to win well the whole that's the whole point whether it's social
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media or anywhere else we're winning hands down we've got we've got the arguments um the thing about
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the left is they're always in their echo chamber and their ivory towers you know contemplating their
00:30:50.420
navels and when it comes to arguing their case and their point of the manifesto they're completely
00:30:55.280
lost um but i'll just just pitch just pick you up on nigel farage if i if i can i i i think nigel
00:31:02.260
farage has worked out he has the uh the working class and people class right-wing vote in his pocket
00:31:08.520
what i think nigel farage is doing now is is trying to appeal to the more socialist left-leading
00:31:14.740
people like the social democrats and and the old-time labor party i think that's his target
00:31:19.860
audience here at the moment and maybe a few conservatives as well so i know no i i i i was
00:31:25.700
very disappointed very disappointed when he said he said he wouldn't be looking at deporting illegal
00:31:31.100
migrants he again has walked that back and said well perhaps we will you know whatever um because
00:31:36.140
rupert lowe stuck the boot in and he got loads and loads of clicks and views for his point on
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saying that one but i i i trust nigel nigel farage's instinct i think he's on the right track and i
00:31:48.140
just think at the moment he's trying to try to soften his stance he's trying to make yourself soft and
00:31:52.680
cut soft and cut to women the lady who won the run corn by-election sarah poche you don't see her
00:31:58.720
off the telly you know she is the go-to um go-to reform party spokesman at the moment so no he's i think
00:32:05.180
i think he's you know he doesn't want to fight the horses he does want doesn't want to upset the
00:32:09.920
apple cart so um i think he's doing particularly well on that you know it's very interesting me to
00:32:16.380
me to see a few mps from a variety of parties speaking out rupert lowe you mentioned was with
00:32:23.420
reform he he's no longer in reform but he's in parliament he's speaking very boldly he's got this
00:32:28.460
independent inquiry i just forgot the name of the the conservative party he was he challenged
00:32:33.620
leadership uh he he didn't beat kemi badenoch but robert jenrich robert jenrich that's right
00:32:39.480
and he's just on social media making these very powerful videos i mean he's coming out with one
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week it's sort of the same thing pierre paulia did in canada which is having fairly meaty videos direct
00:32:53.520
to social media he's not even talking to the press here let me throw one on the screen to take a look
00:32:58.000
i think this guy's really good i sort of wish he had won the conservative leadership take a look
00:33:02.500
let me tell you something about the housing crisis that nobody ever talks about if you live here in
00:33:08.360
london you're paying an estimated 216 pounds in rent every single month due to the demand from
00:33:15.500
immigration since 2001 that's two and a half grand every year across england you're paying 132 pounds
00:33:24.440
extra every month this is according to first of its kind research from onward which has shown the link
00:33:31.100
between mass migration and our housing crisis just think of what you could do with that kind of money
00:33:36.600
the truth is we'll never be able to build our way out of the housing crisis if demand from immigration
00:33:41.140
stays this high in 2022 alone we'd have needed to build 515 000 new homes just to keep up with new
00:33:48.220
arrivals look i am as pro housing as anyone but that is just not possible limited high-skilled migration is
00:33:55.480
a good thing for young people but we've seen for far too long mass unskilled migration putting pressure
00:34:00.640
on public services at months the truth is that makes young people poorer and home ownership
00:34:05.440
unobtainable uncontrolled migration isn't working for anyone in this country and it's time we put a
00:34:11.380
stop to it so the interesting thing is these folks are allowed to do this uh jenrik as you say he um
00:34:17.940
you know his leader kemi badenok is tolerating this i think it's because they see they had 14 years to fix a
00:34:24.980
problem they didn't people don't trust them now that the conservatives look like they're in third
00:34:28.880
place but i like what i i like what they're at least saying now in their impotence and opposition
00:34:34.140
oh okay well i can exclusively reveal to uh to rebel news kind of i i had this off the record
00:34:41.360
conversation uh funnily enough um uh last week actually and i was chatting to a special advisor
00:34:48.260
uh i better not be someone quite someone quite senior and you know i said you know have you guys
00:34:55.040
seen the light you know are you like soul on the road to damascus you know the blinding lights come
00:34:59.740
out you realize that you know it's wasted 14 years you gotta apologize for it and are you genuine uh
00:35:06.420
genuine in uh looking to sort of mend your ways and and and improve the policy and implement the
00:35:12.760
policies that we all want uh the shadow home secretary chris philpe has uh has um uh definitely
00:35:18.000
caught the eye now he's been particularly good on immigration now for example when it comes to your
00:35:22.320
permanent residency after being here five years he's suggested that we adopt the danish model whereby
00:35:27.280
they work out how much you take the benefits how much you paid it paid in tax and if you could
00:35:32.760
and if you cost the country money you don't get your residency and you have to leave um but yeah
00:35:37.620
robert jennerick has been you know he's always been very good and i've always always got the
00:35:42.260
impression with with robert jennerick was always once considered to be sort of the one nation
00:35:47.440
tory wet you i.e on the left of the party he could be appeasing he could be appeasing uh at the time
00:35:53.100
david cameron who was in the prime minister um but i think i think most people are quite
00:35:59.280
willing to give him the benefit of the doubt uh he became a great immigration minister um
00:36:05.820
um um uh for a couple of years and he saw what a complete utter mess i think it was under which
00:36:12.520
he soon that um became an immigration minister and he saw what a mess it was he saw you know
00:36:18.800
how how how our system was being abused he saw um that the civil service were complicit
00:36:25.680
in maximizing the number of people that uh come over here and also the civil service blocking any
00:36:33.040
reform or any new laws but when it when it came to the civil service i'm going to give robert
00:36:37.240
jennerick the benefit of the doubt and say that he's genuine um they also think if there's no
00:36:43.380
improvement in the polls um i think the next set of major elections are may next year uh the local
00:36:50.100
elections and if the conservative party does poorly poorly there uh it's believed that kevin
00:36:56.480
baylock's on is on her way out the major problem you have with the conservative party um in this
00:37:02.080
country is uh it's ruled by cchq conservative central headquarters and these these are the people
00:37:08.700
that have managed to you know they've chosen all these wet candidates and we can sort of sort of
00:37:13.920
liberal democrat type type type candidates and they were not really true conservatives um there's a
00:37:19.800
couple of guys who have thought to have a disproportionate amount of influence
00:37:23.140
you know over the party even when rishi sunak was prime minister it is also believed um what what
00:37:30.840
what led to the demise of this trust wasn't this so-called peak in bond markets um by you know the
00:37:37.520
price the government has to pay back on interest in fact it's now higher under under racial reason
00:37:42.420
kirstan than it was under this trust but because she wasn't a globalist and wasn't a swamp or a blob
00:37:49.260
type person um they deliberately went out to uh to get her fired this this is really is a real
00:37:56.060
conspiracy um and she's nearly enough a sentence a list trust has didn't he said enough um you know
00:38:03.020
in public you know when she's been doing interviews she puts it a lot more softly than me but you get
00:38:08.500
the overwhelming impression um and yes it was andrew bailey the bank of england who really sits her up
00:38:13.640
the most let's name in shame yeah i want to close by uh quoting pierre polyev who just uh over the
00:38:21.200
weekend made a tweet that he the pierre polyev even six months ago would never have had the courage to
00:38:27.720
say let me read it to you in full we need massive and immediate reduction in incoming international
00:38:36.020
students we do not have housing jobs and health care yet the carny liberals continue with another half
00:38:42.500
million students this year immigration levels must be cut to bring down population while we focus on
00:38:48.420
jobs homes and health care for canadians now that's good as far as it goes but it doesn't talk about
00:38:53.660
half a million temporary foreign workers hundreds of thousands of fake refugees and then half a million
00:38:59.960
quote normal migrants there's two million people coming into our country every year half the population
00:39:05.640
of the uk but we actually have more migrants than they do but the firmness of this tweet if this is how
00:39:11.980
pierre polyev had been talking during the last election he would have been able to change the
00:39:17.760
subject from the official regime media which wanted to say only mark carney can defeat the evil donald
00:39:24.440
trump and save us so he would have switched off that trump channel and on to turf where the liberals
00:39:30.320
couldn't match him the fact that keir starmer had to walk back his nation of strangers comment shows that
00:39:35.900
that the liberal party is so beholden to immigration now it can't follow conservatives there so i think
00:39:43.160
pierre polyev if he learns from the uk if he learns from here builders and victor orban and he learns from
00:39:50.840
the success stories he might win that's my last thought last word to you david well i it's just such a shame
00:39:57.860
for the canadian people pierre wasn't elected no i mean it's often i criticized trump but he did not
00:40:03.160
put his foot in it did he yeah you know um yeah i i i was so just like no he because he was sitting
00:40:09.380
so far ahead so far ahead of the polls wasn't he yeah 20 points until until yeah i know so you know
00:40:15.480
regime change you know party change in canada was totally desperate i read that since carney's come to
00:40:21.720
power 800 800 000 new people have arrived in canada that's what i read myself that's true
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that's shocking and true well listen david thanks for being such a good sport and chatting with us
00:40:35.180
and i i love the uk i love ireland i love learning from these places i love the history
00:40:39.880
and what you're going through now i'm trying to understand how it might apply to our country so
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hopefully we can learn from your painful lessons although i think we're now the masters
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in painful lessons and hopefully we can fix it great to see you my friend and you pleasure as
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as always all right there he is david atherton freelance journalist pundit and all around good
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egg that's our show for the day i hope you've enjoyed canada day until tomorrow on behalf of all
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of us here at rebel world headquarters so you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom
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and keep fighting for freedom and we'll see you next time