Rebel News Podcast - December 24, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is it just me, or is the Omicron variant of the virus actually worse if you have a vaccine？


Episode Stats


Length

47 minutes

Words per minute

162.58919

Word count

7,718

Sentence count

592

Harmful content

Misogyny

13

sentences flagged

Hate speech

3

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Is it just me, or is the Omicron variant of the virus actually worse if you have a vaccine? Spoiler alert: it's not just me. Ezra LeVant explains why, and why we should all be worried about it.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I sometimes read scientific papers. I'm not a scientist myself, so I have
00:00:05.080 to read very slowly and check with others to make sure I get it. But today I'm going
00:00:09.500 to take you through a study. I'm going to read a lot of it word for word. And most importantly,
00:00:13.780 I'm going to show you a chart. And you're going to be stunned by it. I don't want to
00:00:17.840 give it all away. But it answers the question, hey, doesn't it seem like a lot of vaxxed
00:00:23.000 people are getting the Omicron version of this disease? And the scientific study from Denmark
00:00:30.040 with more than 5,000 patients studied, well, it gives you an answer that's unbelievable.
00:00:36.440 I'll show you the primary documents. I'll show you the charts. I'll read you the report.
00:00:43.060 This is one of those times where having the video version of the podcast really helps.
00:00:48.100 You can see the chart. You can see that I'm not making it up, that I'm reading from the report.
00:00:53.000 Go to rebelnewsplus.com. That's what we call that TV version, the video version,
00:01:01.500 rebelnewsplus.com. It's eight bucks a month, half the price of Netflix. You get my daily show,
00:01:06.240 weekly shows from Sheila Gunn-Reed, David Menzies, and Andrew Chapados. And I actually think the biggest
00:01:10.780 payoff is not even our content. It's knowing in your heart that you are one of the reasons we're
00:01:15.860 able to survive as an independent media source in this age when 99% of journalists get bought off by
00:01:22.640 Trudeau with his media bailout. We don't take a dime from Trudeau, never will. So please consider
00:01:28.200 going to rebelnewsplus.com and clicking subscribe. Frankly, even if you don't watch our video version
00:01:34.140 that often, we could use the support. Okay, here's today's show. I think it's going to surprise you.
00:01:38.820 Tonight, is it just me or is the Omicron variant of the virus actually worse if you have a vaccine?
00:01:59.240 Spoiler alert, it's not just me. It's December 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:02:06.800 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:02:10.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:02:14.580 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
00:02:19.180 bloody right to do so. I don't blame anyone for getting sick, just like I don't blame anyone for
00:02:32.300 getting cancer. Sometimes that's hard when someone is an alcoholic, or if they're really fat, and then
00:02:41.100 they get liver disease or a heart attack, our untrained eyes detect a cause. And if the cause
00:02:48.280 is in some way rooted in a free choice, the mind wanders. Maybe it makes me a bad person, but I think
00:02:55.800 that's why it was hard for me to take public health lectures from Sarah Hoffman, the former NDP
00:03:01.720 Minister of Health in Alberta. Or imagine Maggie de Bloch, the health minister for Belgium. I'm not making
00:03:09.260 fun of them for being fat. They may have a medical problem I don't know about. Maybe, I doubt it,
00:03:16.000 they are so good at managing things that it would be nuts to have anyone healthier running the health
00:03:24.700 care system. But when so much of health these days is scolding you, nudging you, nagging you, ordering
00:03:32.560 you around, it's not quite as compelling when the person doing the scolding doesn't seem to practice
00:03:38.580 what they preach. You know, universal health care has been a liberal mantra for nearly a century,
00:03:45.020 actually. For a while it was considered by the official people, at least, to be central to Canada's
00:03:52.820 identity, Medicare. It's what made us, us. Imagine defining your people and your history and your geography
00:04:02.440 and your culture by a government welfare program that, by the way, didn't really work. And we don't
00:04:09.460 even really talk about it so much anymore, partly because it so obviously doesn't work in the crisis
00:04:15.200 of our time. And the past two years, it's obviously failed. We did a show the other day about a report
00:04:22.960 that half a million surgeries have been canceled because of COVID. And of course, COVID didn't cancel
00:04:29.280 them. Politicians and bureaucrats did. But what's gross about these days is the blaming of sick people,
00:04:40.920 blaming them as unclean and underclass, militarizing public and medical opinion against them. That's 0.87
00:04:47.240 that they're dirty, that we're clean. They're dirty. It's a moral failure on their part. We're so much
00:04:53.600 more moral. It's so weird. We're in the era of fat celebrating, not fat shaming. We're in the era of
00:05:02.360 drug legalization, not just marijuana, but hard drugs, where leftists promote shooting galleries,
00:05:08.640 public shooting galleries, where you can use hard drugs legally. I think there's still some stigma
00:05:14.280 attached to drunk drivers who kill. That's true. Think about it. We praise fat people. We praise
00:05:21.320 drug users. We've banned gyms for the past two years. So we've penalized healthy fitness. But if
00:05:29.260 you get sick from COVID, you're morally to blame. You have to be shamed. At least that's how it's been
00:05:35.020 framed for the past year as forced vaccines have been the narrative. But now the majority of people
00:05:42.180 are vaccinated. And far from this all being over, the spread of the virus is the highest ever.
00:05:50.660 And it's obviously vaxed people getting sick. Not completely. Some unvaxed people do too. But I
00:05:57.680 note, for example, that in Alberta, 81% of the cases these days are in vaccinated people. So how does that
00:06:06.060 work? Well, obviously they're not really vaccinated. They're something. But I don't think you can
00:06:13.020 honestly call that something a vaccine. I saw some newspapers using the word superimmunity and one
00:06:20.340 saying incredible superimmunity. How about just immunity where you're immune? I don't think those
00:06:27.840 things are happening. Now, luckily, the Omicron variety seems to be not much worse than the common
00:06:35.580 cold. Lots of guesses, lots of speculation about what's going on. Some cognitive dissonance for some
00:06:42.180 people who were told to vax and get a booster and they would be fine. But they're not fine. They're
00:06:48.660 getting sick. Here's a thoughtful comment by Tim Poole. He was responding to this bizarre vaccine
00:06:55.800 mandate rule by the mayor of Chicago, basically banning people from getting anything to eat.
00:07:02.860 By the way, most black people in Chicago and also in Washington, D.C., which is about a 70% black city,
00:07:10.220 they're unvaxed. But put that Jim Crow law aside for now. Just take a look at the mayor here for a
00:07:16.140 second. Exempt from this order are houses of worship, K-12 schools, grocery stores, office buildings,
00:07:24.600 and residential buildings. Now, that doesn't mean that people who are in control of those spaces
00:07:31.260 shouldn't themselves affirmatively take precautions. But for now, this order doesn't cover
00:07:37.920 those venues. Also exempt are any individuals entering an establishment for less than 10 minutes
00:07:44.720 for the purpose of merely ordering food or drink. So if you're going in that coffee shop to pick up and
00:07:51.860 go, you don't need to show proof. But if you're going to linger, you're going to eat that muffin,
00:07:57.420 you're going to sit down with your laptop, you got to show proof of vaccination.
00:08:02.080 So Tim Poole points out, he says, two people enter a restaurant. He's talking about Chicago now.
00:08:08.760 Only one is vaxed. They're both standing next to each other. Unvaxed is waiting to order takeout.
00:08:16.900 Vaxxed is waiting for a table. Vaxxed has COVID, but has proof of vaccination and is allowed to sit.
00:08:26.680 Unvaxed does not have COVID, but must leave. That's how it is. Because most people catching
00:08:35.100 the virus now are vaxed. But they have a license, a pass, a QR code to enter an establishment to get
00:08:42.480 on a plane, whatever. There's absolutely no screening for the virus to get on a plane these
00:08:48.520 days. If you've got that little pass saying you're vaxed, curl out on. No test for you.
00:08:54.860 The screening isn't for the virus. It's for political compliance. Okay, but enough preamble.
00:09:01.540 Here's the news. A study out of Denmark, published here on a website hosted by the British Medical
00:09:10.000 Journal and Yale and funded, by the way, by the Chan Zuckerberg Foundation. Now, you'll forgive me
00:09:16.300 if I use a little bit of jargon here because I want to read this to you. I'll skip over some
00:09:21.580 terminology that's irrelevant to our conversation. Here's the headline of the study. Vaccine
00:09:30.100 effectiveness against SARS coronavirus 2. That's how they say COVID-19. Infection with the Omicron
00:09:36.720 or Delta variants following a two-dose or booster, BNT-162, that's Pfizer, or mRNA-1273,
00:09:48.580 that's Moderna vaccination series, a Danish cohort study. Okay, so for all the jargon,
00:09:54.500 that basically means they're studying, do those two vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, do they work
00:09:59.720 against Omicron or Delta if you've got two or three shots of it over time? Okay, so I'm going to
00:10:08.580 sometimes skip over words like BNT-162, whatever, just because that's a technical description of
00:10:15.300 Pfizer. I'm just going to translate some of the jargon just to make the reading easier,
00:10:19.580 but I'll show you the words, and of course, you can click on the study yourself.
00:10:22.720 So let me read from it. In this brief communication, we are showing original research results with early
00:10:31.820 estimates from Danish nationwide databases of vaccine effectiveness, VE, against COVID-19
00:10:41.560 Omicron variant up to five months after a primary vaccination series with the vaccines and Pfizer
00:10:50.540 Moderna, the ones they've checked. So is that clear enough? By the way, they studied more than 5,000
00:10:55.380 people, so it's a big survey. So here's their summary. Our study provides evidence of protection
00:11:03.940 against infection with the Omicron variant after completion of a primary vaccination series with
00:11:11.380 the vaccines. In particular, we found a vaccine effectiveness against the Omicron variant
00:11:16.800 of 55% and 36% for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, respectively, in the first month after primary
00:11:27.000 vaccination. However, the vaccine effectiveness is significantly lower than that against Delta
00:11:34.620 infection and declines rapidly over just a few months. The vaccine effectiveness is reestablished
00:11:41.260 upon re-vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine, 55%, etc. So all that confidence interval stuff that they say is
00:11:51.820 just a way of saying how statistically certain they are of this given the sample size. But did you catch
00:11:58.840 that part? The vaccine only works a certain percentage of the time, 36% of the time, whatever, against
00:12:08.320 Omicron after a very short period of time? How can you sell something as a vaccine if it doesn't work most of the
00:12:19.340 time? Isn't that a bad Ron Burgundy joke from Anchorman?
00:12:26.080 Well, I'll give this little cookie an hour before we're doing the no pants dance. 0.99
00:12:30.060 Time to musk up.
00:12:32.060 Wow. Never ceases to amaze me. What cologne are you going to go with? London Gentleman or... wait. No, no, no. Hold on. Blackbeard's Delight.
00:12:48.020 No. She gets a special cologne. It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries.
00:12:57.060 Yep. It's made with bits of real panther. So you know it's good. It's quite pungent.
00:13:03.060 Oh, yeah. Ooh, it's a formidable scent. Stings the nostrils. In a good way.
00:13:11.060 Yeah. Brian, I'm gonna be honest with you. That smells like pure gasoline.
00:13:15.060 They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
00:13:21.060 Every time. That doesn't make sense.
00:13:24.060 Well, let's go see if we can make this little kitty purr. 1.00
00:13:34.060 Hey, sweet cheeks. Got an invite I'd like to extend your way. 1.00
00:13:38.060 My God. What is that smell? Oh.
00:13:47.060 That's the smell of desire, my lady.
00:13:49.060 God, no. It smells like a used diaper filled with Indian food. Oh. Excuse me.
00:13:56.060 You know, desire smells like that to some people. What is that?
00:13:59.060 The vaccines are not working against Omicron. They work half the time or a third of the time.
00:14:09.060 Even if you're triple boosted, even if you keep getting boosted, it works for a bit, but then it fades away very quickly.
00:14:17.060 But actually, their charts show more than their written reports.
00:14:22.060 They don't talk about this part in their written report.
00:14:25.060 After a while, these two vaccines, Moderna and Pfizer, they give negative protection.
00:14:33.060 As in, if you get the Pfizer or Moderna shot after three months, you are more likely to get sick than if you didn't get the shot at all.
00:14:46.060 Look at this. Let me read to you from the chart.
00:14:49.060 Estimated vaccine effectiveness for Pfizer and Moderna against infection with the Omicron and Delta variants.
00:14:59.060 OK, so you can see for the first 30 days, Pfizer is 55 percent effective and Moderna is 37 percent.
00:15:08.060 OK, so I told you that before, but look a month out. Right.
00:15:12.060 31 days out. Pfizer barely works.
00:15:15.060 Do you see that? 16 percent.
00:15:17.060 Moderna works a bit better.
00:15:19.060 Two months out, 60 days.
00:15:21.060 See that?
00:15:22.060 Both have fallen to single digits.
00:15:27.060 They don't work more than 90 percent of the time.
00:15:29.060 Seriously.
00:15:30.060 What's that?
00:15:31.060 9.7 percent effectiveness for Pfizer.
00:15:34.060 4.2 percent effectiveness for Moderna.
00:15:38.060 It's useless.
00:15:39.060 You might as well be taking a placebo.
00:15:44.060 But look at the next line.
00:15:47.060 And it's weird to me that they didn't highlight this.
00:15:49.060 This should be in the headline on the front page.
00:15:53.060 I shouldn't have to dig it out in the chart.
00:15:55.060 This should be in the written report.
00:15:58.060 91 days out, what's the effectiveness here?
00:16:01.060 Minus 76.5 percent for Pfizer.
00:16:07.060 Minus 39.3 percent for Moderna.
00:16:10.060 Minus.
00:16:11.060 You are literally more likely to get infected if you are vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna than if you're not.
00:16:21.060 This is not my opinion.
00:16:24.060 This is what this chart in this national Danish study published online by a collaboration of Yale and the British Medical Journal show.
00:16:33.060 And they're sponsored, like I say, by Mark Zuckerberg.
00:16:37.060 This is not some anti-vaccine website.
00:16:42.060 What's the point?
00:16:44.060 I mean, Omicron hasn't killed anybody.
00:16:48.060 It doesn't really hospitalize anybody.
00:16:51.060 It's the opposite.
00:16:52.060 People are admitted to a hospital for another reason.
00:16:55.060 And then maybe they happen to be diagnosed with Omicron, too.
00:16:59.060 So it's like a cold.
00:17:01.060 It's no big deal.
00:17:03.060 But by God, we need to sell some boosters.
00:17:07.060 We need to keep the fear machine going.
00:17:11.060 But the shots aren't working.
00:17:13.060 That's not me saying it.
00:17:15.060 That's the Danish study.
00:17:16.060 Here's how the Washington Post put it.
00:17:18.060 Buried in this report, they say Denmark's data shows people with two doses to be just as vulnerable to Omicron infection as the unvaccinated.
00:17:29.060 No, actually.
00:17:31.060 The Washington Post, owned by Jeff Bezos, the study doesn't actually show vaccinated people to be just as vulnerable as the unvaccinated.
00:17:42.060 It shows them to be more vulnerable than the vaccinated.
00:17:47.060 I wonder if you'll see this study in the CDC.
00:17:52.060 Stay with us for more.
00:17:54.060 See that Justin Trudeau has punished a member of his caucus who dared to travel when Trudeau told ordinary Canadians not to travel.
00:18:09.060 That's a pretty high standard.
00:18:11.060 I don't know if he'll be able to keep it up because, of course, we know Trudeau himself violates all of the lockdown rules when it suits him.
00:18:18.060 He does not quarantine when he returns from foreign travel in the way he demands others.
00:18:23.060 He does not socially distance or wear masks when it suits him for a photo op.
00:18:28.060 On the other hand, he's very showy about it on other occasions.
00:18:31.060 You might recall that when our friend David Mentes was beat up by Trudeau's bodyguards, it was because David had the temerity to show up at a Trudeau Christmas party fundraiser and try to ask the question, why can you have a Christmas party but you're asking Canadians not to?
00:18:47.060 It's a hypocrisy.
00:18:49.060 And I think that's important because I support Canadians being free to travel and free to live their lives at home.
00:18:55.060 So if I myself were able to travel, I would not regard it as a hypocrisy because I don't believe in the rules.
00:19:01.060 But what about people like John Tory, the mayor of Toronto, and his luxury villa in North Palm Beach?
00:19:08.060 Is it kosher for him to lock down his own city but then fly down there for Christmas to get out of the cold, dreary Toronto?
00:19:16.060 Our next guest is an accomplished journalist who was with the Toronto Sun for many years.
00:19:21.060 She's now with our friends at True North, and she has escaped the lockdownism of Canada and is in the freedom, the promised land of Delray Beach, Florida.
00:19:31.060 She joins us now, Sue Ann Levy. Sue Ann, great to see you again.
00:19:34.060 I wish I was down there, but more to the point, I wish I was free to come and go down there, but I'm not. I'm under lockdowns.
00:19:42.060 I think there's a moral difference between an ordinary citizen like yourself enjoying freedom, traveling, going to the sun, going to freedom, versus a Trudeau or a John Tory or a Doug Ford, people who lock down others but then want to get away from the lockdown themselves.
00:19:59.060 I think that's an important distinction, isn't it?
00:20:02.060 Oh, for sure. If they're declaring the rules, and they're telling other people that they're vulnerable or they need to stay in their homes or socially distant or not have as many people as they would like for Christmas, then they have to play by the same rules.
00:20:17.580 They need to stay wherever they are, whether it be in Toronto or Ottawa, and as far as I'm concerned, and people have come back at me for traveling, but I'm not declaring the rules.
00:20:29.220 I'm not saying you or Ezra or the rest of the world have to stay and hide under their beds.
00:20:36.820 I'm free to go, and I'm exercising that freedom.
00:20:40.060 Yeah, and I think it's normal. I mean, travel and, you know, frankly, the idea of being a snowbird is a very Canadian thing.
00:20:46.620 A lot of people in Calgary would go down to Arizona, a lot of people in Toronto and Quebec.
00:20:52.720 You know, Quebecers love Florida, and the thing is, it's a sign of, do they really mean it?
00:20:58.340 It reminds me of when Leo DiCaprio goes on his yacht or when Al Gore flies on private jets.
00:21:04.040 I'm not against people having wealth and yachts and private jets.
00:21:07.720 It's just when these are the same people saying, reduce your carbon footprint, it just goes to, do they really mean it?
00:21:14.020 And I think that's the thing here is, I don't believe that these lockdowns have a scientific merit.
00:21:19.660 I think that the vaccination rate in Toronto is around 80%.
00:21:24.380 It's actually higher.
00:21:26.400 And then the natural immunity rate, it's almost everyone.
00:21:29.860 So I don't know if they believe it, but their own actions tell the tale.
00:21:35.120 They try and cheat when they can get away with it.
00:21:37.820 And that's what bugs me.
00:21:39.560 They say one thing and do another, just like the carbon cops DiCaprio and Al Gore do.
00:21:46.520 It's been total hypocrisy with this COVID, the whole COVID process in the last two years.
00:21:52.040 And we've seen plenty of examples of it.
00:21:55.620 It's do as I say, not as I do.
00:21:59.580 And, you know, I think Canadians, certainly Trantonians and Ontarians are just sick of it all. 1.00
00:22:05.640 Just absolutely sick of being told what to do, being lectured by leftist doctors who think they know better,
00:22:13.240 self-righteous, sanctimonious people who, you know, feel they can get on and tell on social media and tell people
00:22:20.440 they're not allowed to go here, there, enjoy their lives.
00:22:25.140 Look, the goalposts keep changing.
00:22:27.300 And I understand this is an evolving disease, but we're, you know, double vaxxed, boosted.
00:22:33.100 I am certainly.
00:22:34.920 And, you know, at some point you just have to say we have to learn to live with it.
00:22:39.520 And I don't think any of these health officials are prepared to say that.
00:22:43.980 Yeah.
00:22:44.160 And they don't like when the camera is turned on them.
00:22:46.780 I did a fairly boring tweet that I've, I mean, I've used the word, I've used the word,
00:22:51.900 send me video of this guy breaking the lockdown rule.
00:22:54.320 I've said that a dozen times.
00:22:55.680 In fact, we actually last Christmas sent someone down to John Tory's place in Palm Beach just to see if the house was being used.
00:23:04.420 And indeed it was being used.
00:23:05.600 Now he claims it wasn't him in there.
00:23:07.960 And I suppose I have to take him in his word.
00:23:10.420 But we hold public office holders accountable.
00:23:14.020 Now it's true that a TV doctor is not an elected politician, but so many of the decision makers are not elected politicians.
00:23:22.680 They're bureaucrats.
00:23:23.820 They're doctors who, for the first time in their lives, people care.
00:23:27.880 People, you know, they're celebrities.
00:23:29.260 They're on TV.
00:23:30.340 I just suggested, hey, anybody, is this TV doctor who's calling for lockdowns,
00:23:34.180 if you catch him breaking the rules, send me the video, and the freak out.
00:23:39.360 And I don't know.
00:23:40.440 I suppose it's because they like their privacy.
00:23:42.640 Yeah, me too.
00:23:43.860 Or maybe because they don't like being held to a higher standard and they don't think the scrutiny belongs on them.
00:23:49.640 I don't know.
00:23:50.320 I just think that it feels classist, Sue Ann.
00:23:55.740 It feels like the fancy people have one set of rules.
00:23:58.700 And, you know, the DoorDash drivers and the Amazon delivery boys and the grocery store cashiers, they work the whole time through.
00:24:08.160 And I just feel like the little people pay the price of the lockdown and the government sector hasn't missed a paycheck.
00:24:15.900 And if anything, they've been having the time of their lives working by remote on Zoom.
00:24:20.880 It just really, and I'm not a Marxist, but I can't help but see the classist elements here.
00:24:26.660 For sure.
00:24:27.760 For sure.
00:24:28.140 And, yeah, the lack of compassion, the lack of understanding of what the average Joe has gone through, and, you know, the celebrity doctors, the public health officials who have not missed a paycheck, even bureaucrats in the public service, whether it be at the level of the City of Toronto, Ontario, or Canada, none of them have missed a paycheck, have worked from home throughout, are still working from home.
00:24:55.340 And they have no understanding of what, say, a waiter has gone through, a business owner has gone through, of what these ordinary people are doing to try and survive.
00:25:06.740 And you know a lot of businesses have gone out of business because of the draconian rules.
00:25:11.700 I want to talk about one more thing because you put this on Twitter and it made me sad to see it.
00:25:16.220 And, of course, there's hundreds of thousands, probably millions of Canadians in the same position.
00:25:20.820 And your story, unfortunately, is all too common, but because you're a reporter and you're prominent on Twitter, when you tell the story, a lot of people hear it.
00:25:31.660 Your mom is in a senior's home and she was going to get on a plane and join you in sunny Florida.
00:25:36.860 What a great family reunion.
00:25:38.640 Obviously, she's an older lady. 1.00
00:25:39.960 And because, and you tell me if I got the facts right here, because there was a single case in that whole senior's home, every senior has been locked down in the prison sense of the term lockdown.
00:25:53.680 That's where the word lockdown used to be.
00:25:55.820 Lock down that war.
00:25:56.820 There's a riot in the prison.
00:25:57.980 Lock it down.
00:25:58.780 That's what lockdown means.
00:25:59.900 There was nothing else that was locked down.
00:26:01.940 And tell me the story about your mom and how they're literally being imprisoned in their cells. 0.88
00:26:07.080 They are.
00:26:09.200 And in fact, I phoned up and we, she has a sense of humor.
00:26:11.620 I have a sense of humor.
00:26:12.400 And I said, how are things going?
00:26:14.120 And I won't mention the retirement residence.
00:26:16.080 How are things going in the blah, blah prison?
00:26:19.640 And at least are you getting three square meals a day?
00:26:22.120 I know you're not allowed to go out to the exercise yard or to go to the prison library.
00:26:27.440 You know, having said that, these seniors, and I spent a lot of time in my last year at the Toronto Sun writing about how they were isolated, how they deteriorated, as many died from the isolation and loneliness, in addition to those who died of COVID.
00:26:47.260 And here we are, two years in, and we're back to 2020.
00:26:52.280 Now, I'm not even sure there's a case.
00:26:55.500 It's not a resident.
00:26:56.500 It's a staff member.
00:26:58.240 The information is very, very hard to get.
00:27:01.900 I had to write the homes director four times yesterday because I was supposed to get on a plane on Monday and go up and get her.
00:27:09.000 She has Lewy body dementia.
00:27:10.720 She's 88.
00:27:12.400 And I wanted her to have maybe, you know, a good winter.
00:27:16.420 We don't know.
00:27:17.380 We don't know what tomorrow brings.
00:27:18.900 You know that.
00:27:19.580 And I wanted her to have a pleasant winter, and I couldn't get information.
00:27:25.120 They locked down the home.
00:27:26.620 They're all stuck in their rooms getting their meals, and that's it.
00:27:30.400 They didn't even want my mom to walk the hallway. 1.00
00:27:32.840 She needs to move her legs because of her condition. 1.00
00:27:36.980 They told her caregiver she couldn't go out of her suite.
00:27:40.240 I mean, how cruel is that?
00:27:42.300 And it's not just my mom, but I wanted to expose it because it's happening to others.
00:27:46.900 And she will make it down to Florida eventually.
00:27:50.700 However, it's just really cruel.
00:27:53.120 And half of her home is not Jewish.
00:27:55.240 They do celebrate Christmas.
00:27:56.940 Can you imagine?
00:27:58.000 Do you think Eileen Davila, the medical officer of health in Toronto, would spend her Christmas alone in a small suite, having meals only delivered, maybe through the door?
00:28:08.880 Maybe we should put a hole in her door and deliver them that way on a train. 1.00
00:28:13.040 That really is like a prison.
00:28:14.680 I've had the unusual experience of visiting people in prison, including in lockdown-type situations.
00:28:22.880 It is considered a form of psychological torture to be in solitary confinement.
00:28:28.580 I should tell you that even when I visited my friend Tommy Robinson in the ultra-high-security Belmarsh Prison, that's the UK version of Guantanamo Bay, that's where all the terrorists and the murderers are kept, even the worst of the worst are allowed out for exercise for an hour a day.
00:28:47.500 They're allowed visitors.
00:28:48.800 Not everyone in solitary is, but it's a form of torture.
00:28:57.460 It's frowned upon by civil rights and groups like amnesty.
00:29:03.240 And what you're describing your mom going through is literally the definition of solitary confinement.
00:29:11.080 It is.
00:29:12.060 The only difference is that she does have a caregiver coming in to help her because she has certain care needs for eight, seven, eight hours a day. 0.99
00:29:20.020 But the rest of the time, she's all by herself.
00:29:22.660 I've been calling her once, twice a day to make sure she's okay.
00:29:26.940 I could go visit her because I'm an essential caregiver.
00:29:29.520 If I was up there, my brother can go in as well.
00:29:32.680 But we have to suit up, mask all the protocols.
00:29:36.580 I'm telling you, Ezra, my dad died of COVID.
00:29:38.920 He was in hospital for two weeks last year.
00:29:41.000 I suited up and, you know, because there was a sincere threat.
00:29:45.560 There is no threat.
00:29:47.300 Why the heck would one have to suit up in a mask, in gowns, in gloves?
00:29:52.900 I mean, you know, to me, it is just a total of abuse of power by public health officials.
00:29:58.160 You know, the whole thing reminds me of airport security.
00:30:02.960 I mean, there was a terrible event, 9-11.
00:30:05.140 And for 20 years now, we have what I call public, you know, security theater.
00:30:12.580 It's very showy.
00:30:14.500 It's very ostentatious.
00:30:16.820 But I don't think they've got a single terrorist in 20 years.
00:30:21.080 And the thing is, okay, it's a hassle.
00:30:22.940 We grumble.
00:30:23.660 But okay, so it's a half an hour extra of your life on a trip.
00:30:27.080 It's not the end of the world.
00:30:28.320 You feel a little groped sometimes.
00:30:30.380 But it's not the end of the world.
00:30:32.220 I think this is public health theater at this point.
00:30:36.400 Maybe a year and a half ago, we didn't know.
00:30:39.020 Or maybe there was some rationale that made sense then.
00:30:43.060 But if you've got a double vax patient and a double vax family member,
00:30:47.380 and the whole facility is vaxed, to dress up like a spaceman from head to toe,
00:30:53.300 that's public health theater.
00:30:55.200 There's no science there.
00:30:56.560 And unlike the airport security theater, it's not a half-hour inconvenience on the front end of a lovely trip.
00:31:04.100 It's a day-in, day-out change of your life.
00:31:07.960 I think the, quote, cure for this pandemic is far more devastating than the virus itself.
00:31:15.540 Last word to you, my friend.
00:31:17.520 And I absolutely agree.
00:31:19.500 And, you know, my mom is a tough cookie. 1.00
00:31:22.360 Come buy it honestly.
00:31:23.760 So she will make it through.
00:31:25.320 My brother and I are very invested in her care.
00:31:27.420 But I have to tell you, the other thing is that they absolutely hate when you question.
00:31:32.860 You question what they're doing.
00:31:34.780 And I was even bullied into, because I wanted to take my mom out,
00:31:38.880 into being told that I could face a $5,000 a day fine if I took her out while they were in lockdown. 0.86
00:31:46.700 So this is how they operate.
00:31:49.360 Threats.
00:31:50.160 Threats.
00:31:50.480 Probably illegal.
00:31:52.060 They probably just made it up.
00:31:53.180 But it's brought out the inner authoritarian.
00:31:56.880 You know what?
00:31:57.680 In each of us, there's a little devil and a little angel.
00:32:00.600 I mean, we know that stereotypical image of a devil and an angel on each shoulder whispering into our ears.
00:32:06.180 Each of us has the ability to do wonderful things and to do terrible things.
00:32:10.260 And we have to govern ourselves.
00:32:11.640 And, unfortunately, this pandemic and the lockdowns have really brought out the authoritarian within so many of us.
00:32:20.160 And it's shocking.
00:32:20.920 The worst.
00:32:21.420 To seem.
00:32:22.200 Yeah.
00:32:22.480 Well, Sue Ann, it's great to see you.
00:32:23.800 Sorry, go ahead.
00:32:24.340 You were about to say.
00:32:24.920 I was just going to say that what really is upsets me is that these are vulnerable seniors who can't fight back, don't have the energy to fight back.
00:32:35.320 So that's what really troubles me.
00:32:37.380 Well, and I agree with you on that.
00:32:40.000 And I regard myself as lucky that I am with my own company, that I'm not.
00:32:45.680 I mean, so seniors are obviously vulnerable.
00:32:47.440 But even workers who have no alternative and if they don't obey some corporate edict or some political edict, they're going to be fired.
00:32:55.840 I regard myself as very lucky that I live a life where I'm independent in most ways.
00:33:01.400 And I think most rebel staff feel the same way, that we have some freedom here.
00:33:04.960 If you're in an institution like your mom is or if you're in a corporate institution, a lot of your civil rights have been taken away.
00:33:12.480 And I think we'll be facing the legal, moral, social, psychological and health consequences of that for a very long time.
00:33:20.400 It's good to see you.
00:33:21.160 I'm glad you're down there in the promised land.
00:33:22.740 Nice to see you.
00:33:23.500 Happy holidays.
00:33:24.520 You too, my friend.
00:33:25.660 And folks, just the exciting news is you can continue to follow Sue Ann Levy in the webpages of TrueNorth, TNC.news.
00:33:34.960 So make sure you give her a follow.
00:33:36.740 She was one of the feistiest columnists and reporters of the Toronto Sun.
00:33:41.480 It was a great loss to them when she left them, but it was a great gain to TrueNorth.
00:33:47.940 So make sure you follow Sue Ann there.
00:33:50.380 Take care, my friend.
00:33:51.320 Enjoy the sun.
00:33:52.960 Thank you.
00:33:53.840 I will.
00:33:54.460 All right.
00:33:55.080 There you have it.
00:33:56.240 Boy, I'm jealous.
00:33:57.140 I'm here in frosty Toronto.
00:33:59.100 That's Sue Ann Levy in Delray Beach. 0.58
00:34:00.840 Stay with us.
00:34:01.380 More ahead.
00:34:09.960 Hey, welcome back.
00:34:10.860 Your viewer feedback.
00:34:13.660 H1R086.
00:34:14.080 I'm not sure if that's your mama's given name to you.
00:34:16.240 I think private people should be allowed to have their private lives.
00:34:37.480 I really do.
00:34:38.020 There are some exceptions for people who call for other families to be, for example, if
00:34:48.960 the wife of Toronto's mayor breaks the rules, I think it does reflect on him, even though
00:34:54.820 I would call his spouse a private person.
00:34:57.480 I mean, we know for a fact that Sophie Trudeau was jetting all around the place and she gave
00:35:01.920 COVID to actually a movie star in London, which was a little bit unusual.
00:35:07.880 But normally I would say Sophie, especially since they're estranged, that's a private person.
00:35:12.380 I think normally the wife of the mayor is a private person. 0.99
00:35:14.920 I really don't think private matters should be in the public interest.
00:35:18.640 I just don't think so.
00:35:19.660 I don't want to go down that road as a society.
00:35:22.220 But it is not a private matter when a pundit on TV who is calling for lockdowns then breaks
00:35:28.040 the lockdowns.
00:35:28.740 And I don't have proof that he disstanding that doctor breaks the rules.
00:35:32.040 I don't have proof of it.
00:35:33.040 In fact, the opposite.
00:35:33.960 I ask for proof of it because I think that his calling for the lockdowns and his calling
00:35:38.060 for the cancellation of Christianist parties is so absurd that I simply don't believe
00:35:43.560 without proof that he's obeying it.
00:35:46.780 I mean, across this country, we've seen public health officers and premiers and mayors and
00:35:51.000 MLAs and MPPs break it all the time.
00:35:53.480 I think you have to assume none of them mean it, just like you have to assume that the global
00:35:58.140 warming extremists don't mean it.
00:36:00.440 I don't know if anyone had a larger carbon footprint as a cabinet minister than Catherine
00:36:05.100 McKenna, the former environment minister.
00:36:07.240 I mean, you just can't take them at face value.
00:36:09.780 They don't practice what they preach.
00:36:11.180 They don't mean it.
00:36:12.220 It's just a tool to control you.
00:36:14.880 The tea talk says palliative medicine, the practice of making dying people comfortable
00:36:21.140 via drugs.
00:36:23.140 Wonder how many overdoses he has provided.
00:36:26.860 Well, I don't think we have any evidence of that.
00:36:29.780 And I wouldn't cast aspersions on.
00:36:31.740 As far as I know, he's an accomplished doctor.
00:36:35.040 And I wouldn't impute anything to him.
00:36:38.440 And that's not my criticism of him.
00:36:40.900 I don't know how he can practice medicine, given his full-time career as a TV darling.
00:36:46.900 But I have no evidence whatsoever.
00:36:48.640 And I don't allege that he is a bad doctor.
00:36:51.500 I think he's getting away from medicine and into politics.
00:36:57.180 And that's what I want to hold him accountable for.
00:36:59.360 So I'm going to politely disagree with you.
00:37:01.440 It's not that I'm sticking up for him.
00:37:03.080 I'm just saying I have no evidence whatsoever that he's anything but a fine doctor.
00:37:08.200 And that's certainly not my point.
00:37:10.240 My criticism of him was not even as a doctor.
00:37:13.640 It was the opposite, actually.
00:37:14.860 It was him as a politician hiding behind his MD.
00:37:17.940 Well, that's our show for today.
00:37:21.300 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Highquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:37:26.320 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:37:27.340 And let me leave you with a bit of a change of pace.
00:37:29.740 A video from our Adam Sose in Calgary, talking about something we don't talk about a lot on this show.
00:37:35.800 Bill C4.
00:37:36.720 I'll leave you with that.
00:37:37.900 Good night.
00:37:38.740 It's an ideological shutdown.
00:37:40.320 What I've learned is that there seems to be an undercurrent of thinking that's happening right now,
00:37:45.740 where it's like, let's say I don't validate your feelings, then I'm actually committing a harm to you.
00:37:54.020 And it's like, this is what I'm worried about, is that my story invalidates the feelings of some other people.
00:38:00.640 But people have to dig into this, you know, and explore.
00:38:05.480 And ultimately, look for the peace.
00:38:07.020 Adam Sose here for Rebel News, bringing you an update on our banbillc4.com campaign.
00:38:17.560 We're urging you to go to that URL, check it out, sign our petition, and send an email with our one-click option
00:38:23.600 to let people know that you're opposed to this bill.
00:38:26.320 This bill at face value seems like a standard conversion therapy bill,
00:38:30.100 but when you start looking at the definitions, it becomes extremely problematic.
00:38:34.380 This bill fundamentally undermines people's rights to access whichever sort of therapy they deem best for them.
00:38:43.240 It is a marginalizing bill, and it is a bill that furthermore undermines religious freedoms in this country.
00:38:49.780 I'm going to be joined in just a moment by Hudson, who is going to share his testimony about his experience
00:38:54.720 and share his concerns about Bill C-4.
00:38:57.560 So, Hudson, if you could just let me know maybe first off why you became concerned about Bill C-4.
00:39:04.580 Sure.
00:39:05.060 One of the biggest reasons was because I was afraid that if a bill like this came out,
00:39:09.380 then people with a story like mine, we wouldn't be able to share our stories,
00:39:13.160 often involving, like, you know, being touched by the love of God
00:39:15.720 and how we've devoted our, striven to devote our lives to him
00:39:20.500 and how that has just led us to have transformed lives overall in many ways.
00:39:25.220 I've found that there's some people who believe that that in and of itself
00:39:30.060 could amount to conversion therapy by us sharing our stories.
00:39:33.120 So, that's kind of unsettling, you know.
00:39:35.500 And for those folks who maybe aren't familiar with you,
00:39:37.640 can you share just, like, a little bit about your story, maybe the Coles Notes version?
00:39:41.600 Sure, Coles Notes version.
00:39:43.480 So, same-sex attractions and transgender inclinations, what they be called today,
00:39:47.780 are both part of my story.
00:39:49.620 And somehow I found myself back, I found my way back into the Catholic Church,
00:39:55.140 the last place the world said I could ever look.
00:39:57.580 And I've never looked back.
00:40:00.100 And in there I found, like, the peace, joy, hope, freedom, love,
00:40:04.820 all those things that I was looking for in the world, and I found it there in the church.
00:40:07.920 And I know that negotiating the whole same-sex attractions and transgender inclinations,
00:40:14.480 it's not like, there was never a word of, like, trying to change me or anything like that.
00:40:18.360 It was just, people were just invested in trying to help me discover the love of Jesus more
00:40:23.920 than I already knew, right?
00:40:25.700 And there came a point where I just needed to, for reasons of my own,
00:40:29.760 I knew I needed to do that, I knew I wanted to do that, and then I did that.
00:40:32.840 And that impacted all areas of my life, and especially including things like self-control
00:40:38.880 and, like, learning, like, keeping my eyes pointing towards, like, spiritual direction
00:40:42.700 so that I could just make better decisions in life.
00:40:44.780 And a lot of that took me out of, you know, other tendencies, let's say,
00:40:50.520 of, like, being thirsty for, like, love and attention from the world,
00:40:54.260 things that don't actually fulfill anyway.
00:40:56.600 I don't know, a short story is, I, it's helped reform me as a man,
00:41:03.120 and I'm an ongoing project and a journey and stuff, and I get that.
00:41:06.580 But, yeah, like, I've, the, for, in my story, like, I mean, once I had,
00:41:12.640 there was a restoration of sorts in my sense of being a man,
00:41:16.380 and alongside growing in that, in ways that I didn't know at the time,
00:41:21.320 I noticed that the same-sex romantic attractions diminished,
00:41:26.520 and I was like, oh, I didn't notice that until after they were, you know, that happened.
00:41:30.080 And the similar thing with transgender inclinations, it was, 0.97
00:41:32.620 I had to no longer become scared of being a man,
00:41:35.740 because I, I did, there was lots of the world of man that I didn't understand,
00:41:38.600 I didn't know, I didn't feel like I belonged.
00:41:40.460 And that, that got, that just kind of, as the fear went down,
00:41:45.540 and I trusted the Lord more, I was able to enter into that more.
00:41:49.640 And then, and then I noticed one day that I wasn't experiencing transgender inclinations anymore.
00:41:53.800 I was like, oh, I wonder what happened.
00:41:56.360 And so I was able to trace it back to that sort of thing.
00:41:59.720 So, so one of the concerns, obviously, with Bill C-4,
00:42:02.600 originally, I think, I think the notion of conversion therapy,
00:42:05.540 the sort of traditional forced course of conversion therapy that we hear about,
00:42:09.620 there's already laws in place to prevent that.
00:42:11.620 That's concerning.
00:42:12.620 What, what, what, and that's, that's, that is clearly something we probably would both condemn.
00:42:16.860 Oh, yeah.
00:42:17.280 What happens with Bill C-4, though, is it becomes extremely problematic,
00:42:20.500 because someone like you, who, would you say you were ever forced to undergo these conversations
00:42:26.240 with pastors, or was it, or people that you're talking to, or was it something that you freely sought out?
00:42:32.880 I, I was never forced into any type of conversation like this.
00:42:36.280 In fact, I know some people who were greatly harmed by what we would think of conversion therapy,
00:42:41.120 where they were trying to force their change, horrible stuff.
00:42:44.260 And, of course, I think anybody would agree that that kind of stuff is ridiculous.
00:42:47.940 What I'm worried about is, I've had some people voice to me that anything short of full promotion
00:42:54.500 equals conversion therapy.
00:42:56.260 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:42:57.820 Like, let's talk about that, right?
00:42:59.120 Because at the end of the day, in my life, there was definitely a conversion of heart.
00:43:04.320 And that's because of Jesus Christ and entering into that and choosing that for myself.
00:43:07.960 And, you know, having people to support me to not, like, not to change attractions or gender stuff,
00:43:14.680 but to help me, like, taste the love of Christ more.
00:43:19.160 And I worry about that, that there being a chilling effect,
00:43:24.260 that if people know that maybe something like that is part of someone's story,
00:43:27.920 that they'll be afraid to talk about that, because they might not know what is okay and what's not okay, you know?
00:43:33.200 So, just generally speaking, what Bill C-4 could do would be, it's very infantilizing.
00:43:39.860 It could take someone like you, someone who's maybe having some questions,
00:43:43.320 maybe experiencing same-sex attraction, having some transgender inclinations.
00:43:47.260 And that person, I think, regardless of who they are, has every bit of decency,
00:43:50.820 as much decency as you or I.
00:43:52.380 They have innate human decency.
00:43:54.260 They have the freedom, and I think we should treat them with respect,
00:43:57.560 to allow them to seek out different opinions, to seek out different voices.
00:44:02.020 You had that opportunity, no one forced you, but you had the freedom to do that.
00:44:06.880 And that freedom is likely going to be ultimately taken away, deprived, and made very much illegal by Bill C-4.
00:44:14.000 Yeah, to me, it seems like that is probably going to be the case.
00:44:17.640 And even if it doesn't by the letter of the law,
00:44:19.960 I'm still concerned that enough people will be scared that it could put them in trouble,
00:44:24.220 so they just won't talk about it.
00:44:25.820 But I do encourage people to actually read the law,
00:44:28.860 not just like the headline from, you know, what people, you know,
00:44:33.540 it's going to get characterized a certain way.
00:44:35.720 And ultimately, I think that if there's truth behind, you know,
00:44:41.000 if there's truth behind things, people won't be afraid to have things, questions asked, right?
00:44:45.740 Like anybody can ask me a question.
00:44:47.320 I don't really care.
00:44:48.240 That's fine.
00:44:48.660 But if I was trying to twist things, you know, it'd be like, no, I just,
00:44:54.020 I want people to look into this, you know?
00:44:56.280 Well, and it's nice to see people who've experienced stories like this,
00:45:00.180 people like yourself advocating for conversations.
00:45:02.500 What we're seeing very often politically, Bill C-4 is almost the poster child of it,
00:45:07.140 is an ideological shutdown of conversations and dialogue is vital to society.
00:45:12.900 Yeah, so go ahead.
00:45:14.200 It's an ideological shutdown.
00:45:15.800 What I've learned is that there seems to be an undercurrent of thinking that's happening right now,
00:45:21.240 where it's like, let's say I don't validate your feelings,
00:45:24.900 then I'm actually committing like a harm to you.
00:45:29.140 And it's like, this is what I'm worried about is that,
00:45:31.740 like my story invalidates the feelings of some other people.
00:45:36.060 But people have to dig into this, you know, and explore.
00:45:40.960 Look, and ultimately look for the peace.
00:45:42.500 It's like, you know, even if, like, my heart's been touched by Christ.
00:45:47.440 I know this.
00:45:48.280 And it's like, they could make it so that even saying any piece of my story is illegal,
00:45:53.120 but they can't illegalize the love of God.
00:45:55.120 And that's what I'm hoping maybe will get brought to the surface.
00:45:59.380 You know, cards are being revealed.
00:46:01.060 And it's like, well, maybe the peace that I have can be revealed.
00:46:04.560 And maybe people will want it, you know?
00:46:06.160 Well, I want to thank you for coming forward, sharing your story.
00:46:08.420 It's wonderful to see that people like you are keeping the conversation alive.
00:46:13.440 I think very much as Bill, it was intended at shutting the conversation down.
00:46:17.200 But I know your story matters and people who have stories like yours,
00:46:20.500 wherever they are on the spectrum, those stories deserve to be heard
00:46:23.280 because you're every bit as important as anyone else.
00:46:25.440 So thank you so very much for coming forward and sharing your story.
00:46:28.420 Thank you.
00:46:29.080 Appreciate it.
00:46:29.500 Well, I want to thank Hudson for providing us with his perspective and his concerns on Bill C-4.
00:46:36.780 Again, I'm urging you to consider going to banbillc4.com to learn more
00:46:41.660 and to sign our petition opposing this discriminatory and bigoted bill
00:46:46.760 that is riddled with problematic languages and problems.
00:46:50.640 It in itself comes in confrontation with fundamental charter rights that are insured,
00:46:55.980 like the right for an individual to seek the therapy they deem best,
00:46:59.660 as well as religious freedoms.
00:47:02.100 I want to thank you all, as always, for tuning in.
00:47:04.720 For Rebel News, I'm Adam Sos.
00:47:09.420 Hey, if you think that Canadians have the right to seek whichever counselling
00:47:13.720 they deem best for themselves or their family members,
00:47:17.160 go to banbillc4.com, sign our petition,
00:47:20.540 click our one-click politics link to send an email
00:47:23.620 to the people responsible for bringing Bill C-4 into law.
00:47:27.560 Thank you.