EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Mark Carney temperamentally suited to public life？
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A new outburst from Canadian PM Mark Carney. He was asked if Donald Trump has called him lately and he said, Oh, who cares? Well, that was your central campaign promise. I'll show you the video and how this is part of a pattern for Carney, but first, let me invite you to get a subscription of what we call "Rebel News Plus" which is the video version of this podcast. It's 8 bucks a month which might not sound like a ton to you, but it really helps us out because we take no money from the government and it shows tonight is Carney temperamentally suited to public life?
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hello my friends a new outburst from mark carney he was asked if donald trump has called him lately
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and he said oh who cares who cares well that was your central campaign promise i'll show you the
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video and i'll show you how this is part of a pattern for carney but first let me invite you
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tonight is mark carney temperamentally suited to public life it's november 24th and this is the
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i saw this snippy little exchange between prime minister mark carney and a reporter next question
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who cares i mean it's a detail it's a detail i spoke to him i'll speak to him again when it matters
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i mean the sort of comme j'ai dit nous sommes très occupés nous sommes très très occupés
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avec l'avenir du canada nous sommes met chez nous et avec les avec les nouveaux partenariats
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et il y aura il y aura il y aura des conversations oui avec avec le président et moi probablement dans les
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prochaines les prochaines deux semaines mais et on attend de uh you know i'm always happy to sorry
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i slipped into french because i anticipated the uh uh the en français thing um uh uh the uh i look
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forward to speaking to uh the president soon but i i don't have a burning issue to speak with the
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president about right now um when america wants to come back and have the discussions on the trade
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side we will have those discussions so just in case you missed it he was asked by a reporter if he's
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spoken to u.s president donald trump lately and he says who cares it's just a detail and then he
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seems to panic a little bit so he switches to french really just i think to shut himself up and give him
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a way out i think that's what it looked like and then he stops and calls that the en français thing
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so um who cares that he hasn't spoken to trump i mean who cares right well he said he cared
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that was pretty much his central campaign platform in the last election he was the one the only one he
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said who could handle donald trump who could protect canada from trump who could out negotiate trump
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because carney knows how the world really works he said who cares well i'm guessing some folks who
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work in the uh auto industry care trump has more or less said he's going to move those factories
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down to the united states from canada who cares i don't know there's a lot of people who do
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mainly people who voted for him that would be like a conservative politician saying who cares
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about some fundamental conservative issue like reducing the carbon tax or supporting freedom of
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speech imagine if a conservative on a core issue said oh who cares it reminded me in its childish
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petulance of carney just a week or so ago talking about oil pipelines is this pipeline going to come
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so it's so boring it's not actually it is it is no but it is it is because it's look it's don't worry
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we're on it we're on it like we're on it but there is this whole world okay hands up who's working
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on the pipeline in this room okay isn't that a problem no no no no look at all the variety like
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nav like does your like it's we have yeah if there's more prosperity they'll get more cell phone
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cell phone services but look look okay so what's going to drive one of the things with yeah don't
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worry we're on the we're on the pipeline stuff danielle's on line one don't worry it's going to happen
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but well something's going to happen let's put it that way um yeah oil pipelines are boring
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did you know that many things in running a government may seem boring if you're measuring
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it against i don't know jet setting to exotic conferences at five-star hotels in places around
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the world like davos and the world economic forum which is pretty much what mark carney did full time
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until he became prime minister sorry to bore you but even that's not true you know you could say
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oil pipelines are boring but i just don't think they're that's accurate i think they're actually
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all the rage even brookfield the company that carney used to chair that company in which carney still
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has hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stock they're buying up pipelines like crazy just not in
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canada they're not that crazy oil pipelines are sexy if you care about jobs if you care about
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expanding canadian exports of our most valuable resource which is oil our oil and gas exports are
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more value or triple as valuable as our entire auto exports oil pipelines are a key strategy if you
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really do want to diversify our exports off the u.s because right now almost all of our oil goes to
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the u.s and because we have one dominant customer the u.s economies call that economists call that a
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monopsony have you ever heard that word it's sort of the opposite of a monopoly monopoly is you have one
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seller so they can jack the prices up artificially high because what are you going to do in a
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monopoly monopoly it's a funny word you have a lot of sellers but just one buyer the united states
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so prices are artificially low so if we actually had a new pipeline to the pacific coast where we
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could sell oil to japan korea india taiwan you'll notice i didn't say communist china even though they
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would surely want to buy it too if we sold it to all the democracies of asia not only would we increase
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exports but it would allow canadian oil producers to get paid at world prices rather than at a landlocked
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deep discount to world prices which is what canada gets right now so it would be a double win more oil
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sales at a higher price and american destined oil would get a higher price too so yeah sorry to bore you
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prime minister sort of be so boring we can't all be as exciting and super cool as you talking about
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carbon capture or other complete bs that no one would actually buy were it not for fake green
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subsidies or government mandates pipelines are boring to mark carney because there's something
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that the real world already does the real world demands pipelines the real world supplies pipelines
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private companies do it all there's no role for the government no need for the government
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other than imposing red tape on it whereas his schemes always seem to involve
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government investments that is subsidies like carbon capture or wind turbines it's all fake
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there would be no real market for any of that unless the government was involved
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mark carney hates oil pipelines because they don't need him he just gets in the way doesn't he
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so they make him feel unimportant he's revealed to be an economic imposter you support oil pipelines
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if you do you're you're boring has trump called you oh who cares yeah i i think he's sort of giving
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it away like a poker tell he's easily irritated when things aren't going his way isn't he he gives
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it away like that time he chided the cbc's rosemary barton who made the grave mistake a mistake she has
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never repeated i might add of actually once asking mark carney about his conflict of interest remember
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that the rules say that those assets should be publicly disclosed within 120 days which means
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you'll campaign in a coming federal election most likely within the next 120 days and are serving
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as prime minister now with canadians not being aware of what potential conflicts of interest
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what possible conflict would you have stephanie stephanie i'm complying with the rules i'm complying
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with the rules in advance point for you yes yes there's no possible conflict of interest in your
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assets it's very difficult look inside yourself rosemary i mean you start from a you start from a
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uh uh uh a prior of of conflict and uh ill ill uh ill will um do you see the pattern here mark carney
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loses his cool and gets chippy and snippy and snappy when he's frustrated when he's asked about something
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he doesn't have a good answer to oil pipelines stop bothering him trump shut up conflict of interest
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look inside yourself rosemary carney says he doesn't care that he can't get a phone call from
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donald trump do you believe him i think he cares very much the entire rest of the world is lined up to
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meet with donald trump just in the last week trump has had a state dinner for the crown prince of
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saudi arabia he met with the new mayor of new york city he had a phone call with the uk's prime
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minister keir starmer he's working even today on the ukraine russia peace deal i think vladimir
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zelensky is in washington today if i'm not mistaken trump does occasionally travel to other countries
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once in a while but most of the time people come to him it's the opposite for carney very few world
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leaders will come to ottawa he's the one flying around the world non-stop for quick photo ops and his
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message is always that canada doesn't really need the united states now i don't know he's who he's
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trying to convince of that but if it's an attempt to use reverse psychology on the americans i don't
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think it's working i don't think anyone in washington even notices carney does odd things like he suggested
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canada will rip up our contract that we signed with the united states two years ago to buy f-35 fighter
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jets and instead he's considering buying less capable much older fighter jets made in sweden
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um i can only imagine the billions of dollars in penalties that ripping up a contract with
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the f-35 manufacturers would cost but really the bigger cost obviously would be hardening trump's
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heart even more in terms of trade deals and the auto industry so yeah who cares he says well i i don't
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know if carney is temperamentally fit for the job i think he's failed upwards again and again in life
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now he's being promoted to the level of his incompetence i don't think it's a good look
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hey i wanted to mention another thing today uh the first uh was carney's chippy attitude which i think
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gives us a little flash in of what he's made inside but the the other one is a phenomenon on x formerly
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known as twitter that i think can be fairly said to comprise the public square in canada and the u.s
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and much of the west i think twitter or x is the town hall i mean obviously there are real public
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squares real town hall meetings and the like and people sometimes go to those how what was the last
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time you went to a town hall do you even go to one once a year if that i think the bulk of the
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national conversation has moved online and while there are other online platforms like facebook
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twitter really does dominate canadian conversations um about politics and in america too
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if you can believe in my own twitter account did you know that mine is the largest of any journalists
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in canada not to brag i have more than half a million followers and i only mention that
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because i don't get a subsidy like the aforementioned rosemary barton in fact i have twice as many
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followers how is that even possible she's got the entire cbc behind her how do i have twice as many
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followers i don't know i've got triple what andrew coin has obviously i tweet in my own name but a lot
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of people on twitter as you may know are anonymous now it's not necessarily bad some people have to be
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anonymous to keep their identity private because their real job would forbid them from taking
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strong stands on public issues but there are a ton of anonymous twitter accounts that sort of act like
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drones or swarms it's pretty obvious that they're fake they're not real people they might just only have
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a handful of followers and they make pretty obviously fake criticisms i get a ton of them
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whenever i say something critical of the liberal party or the democratic party in the u.s suddenly
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swarms of bots that's what they're called short for robots come and leave poorly worded critiques and
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and and disagreements on my twitter feed i can i can tell when someone's a real critic and some of these
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are fake but some anonymous accounts like i say are more than just trolls they're thoughtful and actually
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build up hundreds of thousands of followers so there are real anonymous critics i'm not
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saying all my critics are trolls you saw a lot of these emerge during the israel hamas war
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mainly promoting hamas usually claiming to be based in gaza itself but here's the news i wanted to tell
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you about because i think it's sort of revealing over the weekend twitter or acts added a feature or
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change their rules whichever is your perspective now you can see where any particular twitter account
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was signed up where it's located where it was bought from the app store now this can still be
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tricked in some ways through something called a vpn i won't get into that but given that many twitter
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accounts especially the big ones were set up long ago when the idea that twitter would reveal your
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location wasn't even a thought on anyone's radar i think a lot of these revelations over the weekend are
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really accurate countless pro-palestinian accounts that had claimed to be reporters on the ground in
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gaza have been proven to be fake um they're anywhere but gaza they might be in turkey they might be in
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nigeria they might be in pakistan thousands of miles away even though some of them claim to be
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journalists and those but their stories were just made up same thing i've noticed with some so-called
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america first twitter accounts attacking trump from the right ironically a lot of these racist
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accounts are run from pakistan so many of these fake twitter accounts pretending to be white or even
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aryan as they might say are actually fake accounts run from pakistan isn't that weird
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i don't understand this part i i mentioned rosemary barton canadian journalists like rosemary
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barton and the cbc itself are listed as having signed up in the united states what i have no idea
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why they would do that i mean i know that the cbc is real and i know their head office is in
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toronto so why did they register in america um i don't get it maybe they contracted out their twitter
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contract to some american firm i i'd find that very interesting rebel news is obviously rooted here
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in canada and so am i and i just found that very interesting and i thought it was a real eye-opener
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at how much propaganda we hear and we see is completely fabricated and often funded by foreign
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dictators and why not we've known that iran has hundreds of actual human agents operating in canada
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just last week we learned that hamas itself does too so if iran and qatar have between them more than a
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thousand actual people on the ground in canada spreading their ideas of violence and hatred and
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confusion why would it be so hard to believe that they've created fake online accounts to do the same
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thing too and not just to argue about their favorite issues like pakistan or qatar or gaza but to sow
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seeds of dissension amongst us to whip up american conservatives against donald trump to whip up canadian
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conservatives against pierre polyev to sow demoralization and confusion next time you see
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some bot some obviously fake account uh ask yourself who's behind it you don't have to guess anymore you
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can actually check odds are it's someone pretending to be someone they're not stay with us for more
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for more than a year there's an intersection in toronto not too far away from my house that saw
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dueling protests on the one side were jewish and pro-israel protesters who started a weekly campaign
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as a free the hostages campaign and basically it was in a pretty jewish neighborhood and they waved
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israeli flags and played israeli music and tried to be positive and keep each other's spirits high
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that's what it looked like to me and i would see it as i drove past well then across the street in the
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same neighborhood pro-palestinian and in some cases pro-hamas counter-protesters would come they
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didn't live in the neighborhood many of them drove in from miles away but every sunday they came to
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counter-protest and some would find it distasteful that they would counter-protest the first protest which
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the main purpose of which was releasing the hostages well these dueling protests went on for
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pretty much a year and police were deployed on mass not just that but there were a lot of arrests made
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typically of people like myself or david menzies who got too close to the palestinian side of the street
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i didn't know there was such a thing you might recall that when i was arrested the police said that it
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was because my mere presence on the public sidewalk could cause a disturbance here's a clip of the
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police telling me that and then arresting me when i didn't move
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you're not asking you're pushing okay you're gonna be arrested if you don't for what arrested for what
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for reaching the peace i haven't reached the peace i think you have they have i think you have i haven't
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i haven't breached the peace this is my neighborhood you're you're being here is breaching the peace but
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that means i've been a legal person in my own country you're reaching the peace here i haven't
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reached the peace i know i i listen i don't want to arrest you well a few weeks ago a peace deal for
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what it's worth was signed or agreed to in the region with major regional players like turkey and
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saudi arabia egypt and jordan signing on with israel signing on and most importantly through its qatari
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proxies hamas itself signed on so the primary call of the pro-palestinian protesters for a year
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on the face of it was meant there is a ceasefire obviously if there are any breaches of the ceasefire
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the other side fights back but generally it could be said that the war in gaza is over in fact there's a
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large planning center nearby where israeli american and other countries including military are working
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on the next phase of the plan which would be to clear the rubble and start rebuilding gaza along
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with a foreign un style police force to make sure things stay in hand i don't know if it has a chance
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of success in my mind hamas is an implacable foe but maybe donald trump is right the question is
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what's going on here in canada if the hostages are returned if the ceasefire is in effect what
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is the state of affairs for the protest well there's only one person to ask for that question
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her name is karima sad and she has been documenting this protest and all other street protests in the
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region with a series she calls protest mania what a pleasure to be joined by karima sad and great to
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see you again thanks for taking the time thanks for having me so i mean you can agree or disagree with
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the statement the war is over the ceasefire is in effect but at the very least things the energy level
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the kinetic level of the conflict is down massively i mean there's no more waves of attacks there's
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it it seems like there is a path to peace what's it like on the streets in toronto
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well um the protests have continued um so notwithstanding the ceasefire um we've continued
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to see demonstrations including outside the u.s consulate including at bathurst and shepherd
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and beyond uh where protesters either are dissatisfied with the terms of the ceasefire or that it hasn't
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been adhered to um are not thrilled about the proposal to rebuild gaza as it stands and generally
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speaking uh many of the other points that they disseminate have have stayed the same um so you
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wouldn't necessarily know um based on continued protest activity that uh there has been a major
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material change in in the status of the conflict i mean i can understand that people aren't quite
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happy with it i mean it was a trumpian deal he sort of leaned on israel to get them to accept it
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he leaned on saadi arabia qatar like he really made everyone put some water in their wine that's how
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it looked to me obviously i'm a complete outsider as much as anyone but i mean the the death toll the
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direction of things on the ground it is moving on to a new chapter why have the protests in toronto
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not done the same what is their call to action if they can no longer say we demand a ceasefire what are
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they demanding well there have been uh evolving calls to action um and uh just recently uh there was a
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protest where the speaker says you know ceasefire was only ever intended to be the beginning and sort
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of a starting point to our demands um and other demands include um addressing war crimes or crimes against
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humanity um at least having some sort of adjudication on who did what to whom uh and the disarmament of
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israel has been raised as another point um so you know it is an evolving list of of demands
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uh one of the things that's happened in the last few weeks because the jewish protest hasn't happened on
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the northwest side of that intersection as has been done it it looks through your reporting which is
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i mean i haven't been there personally i've just seen your reporting it looks like some of the pro
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palestinian and sometimes pro homage protesters have left that public street corner and have walked
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into residential neighborhoods uh with flags and they've heckled and been heckled by
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private residents moms dads people in a like there's no there's no embassy there there's no consulate
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there's no businesses they're going on residential streets what's going on there what do they say
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when they're in those neighborhoods and how i mean does that change in the um the focus here if
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they're if they're really just walking through a jewish neighborhood getting into arguments with jews
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that feels like maybe palestine or the war was a proxy for just an underlying anti-semitism that's how it
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looks to me so as you described at the outset um you know you had initially a group of um pro-israel
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supporters who were rallying to free the hostages they were there for about a year until counter
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protestors counter protesters showed up um and then that lasted for about a year after the ceasefire
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and the return of the remaining hostages the pro-israel rally um sort of wound down uh and stopped
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showing up um and i think that was a a conscious decision in the hopes that okay this intersection
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will return to sort of a regular boring intersection um but that that's not what happened um pro-palestine
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protesters continued to show up and i would um i would say that the absence of a rally on the other side
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of the street um sort of left them looking for something to do uh and kind of a way to take their
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message and so what they opted was to go down residential streets um now if you were to ask them
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uh about this tactic and the propriety of it the purpose the utility um i think you would get a range
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of answers um one person we spoke with yesterday um disputed the the notion of a jewish neighborhood
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saying that census data shows it's mostly christian mostly filipino um and sort of she was playing with
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the statistics a little bit in that way and saying essentially we're not here to intimidate we're not
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here to harass um we're here to be peaceful of course the flip side to that is um you have some
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who are quite literally uh as hamas leaders um which you know uh just the optics of that the sight of that
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um is is triggering uh i think especially when it's foisted upon civilians who ostensibly have no
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direct link to israel um and toronto police for their part um have kind of varied their approach
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slightly week by week uh based on the online reaction to footage that's coming out of the
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neighborhood um but on the whole have remained fairly hands-off uh and so what we saw happen just
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this past week was the return of uh some of the original rally organizers who came with their flags
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who joined the march down the residential streets um we had an inspector who kind of lost his his temper
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not in a in an overly dramatic way um but you could really see the frustration um in in sort of the
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inability to manage these competing groups um and so we remain at an impasse here
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i don't want any interaction i've got to keep the peace that's my job i'm trying to do that
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i'm trying to do that i'm just trying to keep you guys separate in order to keep public safety
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it's not it's going to escalate the situation and we're going to get people
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this interaction is not part of that not good um you know i like i said i live in the neighborhood
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and uh it's true that there is a filipino population but it's largely in apartments it's fairly most of
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them are new canadians who uh were born in the philippines and come over lately it's it's an
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expensive neighborhood to own a house i would say just from my personal observations and i mean i know
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that it is one of the most jewish neighborhoods in canada i know that from studying the electoral map
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and the and the uh in our we had a political battle against the liberal mp in that neighborhood
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so i i delved into the demographics a bit um it's true there's a lot of filipino people in the
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neighborhood but in those how in the detached houses it's much more jewish um than than i think
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the the average in the neighborhood any i'm arguing minutiae there have been protests in other parts of the
00:30:49.640
cities too and one caught my eye because these protests often block streets they did that they
00:30:58.540
they used to block the bridge into the armor heights neighborhood where the current protests are there
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like street blocking does not seem to be punished in toronto and there was a protest downtown
00:31:11.800
and someone who was working a little tractor a little kubota mini tractor with a plow at the front
00:31:21.040
it seemed i don't know how it happened seemed to be in the thick of it and i don't know if she panicked
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or it was just adamant but she drove through the crowd now i don't think she hit anybody here we're
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going to show the the clip right now as i'm talking uh it shocked people yeah you can see
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the tractor there uh it wasn't a massive tractor and it didn't speed through it went through at sort
00:31:50.400
of a walking pace um tell me what happened what i mean i've seen this from several angles and we'll play
00:31:56.420
several angles on the screen what happened who was that lady did anyone get hurt and do we know if
00:32:04.980
the police are doing anything so this protest was happening outside the u.s consulate and unlike
00:32:12.980
other demonstrations where protesters um are are blocking infrastructure or roadways this played out
00:32:21.280
entirely on the sidewalk um and to my observation for the majority of the time the sidewalk itself was
00:32:29.240
actually clear if anyone's familiar with this area it's it's sort of right in front of the
00:32:34.620
superior court of justice there's a very large pedestrian space and so the majority of protesters
00:32:40.960
were actually not even on the sidewalk they were in this kind of a plaza area okay and um the speaker
00:32:49.120
was he was in the center of the sidewalk um and you know as he was going on um his sort of his speech
00:32:58.680
and his explanation um i could see blue lights flashing out of the corner of my eye and i could hear
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honking uh and so i turned and that's where kind of our footage starts is you see this tractor
00:33:12.680
um and it's approaching at a pretty slow pace um you know you wouldn't have to necessarily run too fast
00:33:22.680
to to keep ahead of it um and there was no snow there was no ice on this particular day um but there
00:33:30.720
were other tractors doing similar things downtown um this particular tractor was accompanied by
00:33:37.840
um a pickup truck with a plow um that was driving on the road and so what my understanding is they were
00:33:44.120
doing like a dry run ahead of snowfall um and the the beeping and the lights um rather than people
00:33:55.000
getting out of the way it seemed to have the opposite effect um where because i i presume because
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the tractor didn't really slow down um sort of maintained the same steady pace um as she approached the
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demonstration um rather than getting out of the way you had protesters who actually tried to stop it
00:34:17.800
and and stepped in front of the tractor um were hitting it with their flags and their signs um and
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again i was there so my kind of initial thought in seeing a large vehicle approach and it's maintaining
00:34:31.760
its steady speed like i i jumped to kind of negative thoughts about what this could be and you know are
00:34:38.880
planning to run someone over what's going on here in actual fact she had plenty of room um to drive down
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the sidewalk unimpeded that didn't actually happen because protesters uh took a front and started to
00:34:54.300
block the vehicle at that point um you know she didn't stop i i don't really blame her for not
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wanting to stop in the middle of a crowd that was increasingly agitated um and she drove past
00:35:08.340
um as she drove past she flipped someone the bird um and was grinning while doing it it later turns out
00:35:14.820
that she has a pretty uh rich social media history uh with criticism for protests um i think the most
00:35:22.740
notable post was uh her commenting on an all lives splatter meme get out of the road um so from that i think
00:35:32.340
i think um some people are uh inferring negative intent in the initial interaction um but you know what
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i will say is everyone was behaving perhaps a little bit below the standard we might expect in a civil
00:35:49.540
society um there was no reason for any sort of negative interaction um and and no reason really for
00:35:57.300
her to have been impeded um police did stop her a couple of blocks away um took id um i think a brief
00:36:04.720
statement uh ultimately she continued on her work that day um it's now turned into uh you know a bigger
00:36:12.900
story with the mayor weighing in and saying that this needs to be investigated um and and i think that
00:36:20.760
the situation has been both exaggerated and minimized depending on sort of the person doing the analysis
00:36:29.220
their their vantage on all of this and kind of the narrative that they want to to push and the truth
00:36:36.500
is kind of anti-climatic somewhere in the middle but this could have been a very serious incident
00:36:44.620
didn't need to be and ultimately wasn't really yeah you know what we discussed earlier the protest at
00:36:52.980
that batherson uh um shepherd intersection when they didn't have a counterpoint when they didn't have
00:37:00.880
a foil they sort of went looking for action in the neighborhoods that's my gut feel here is that
00:37:07.660
when this kubota trailer came with its lights and on the sidewalk oh this is an opportunity to have
00:37:13.080
some excitement we're just standing around talking to ourselves this gives us a uh a point of conflict
00:37:18.720
even though i think it was a greek lady if i if i'm identifying her name correctly so and and she may
00:37:25.740
like you say have had a political disposition against them but i think they wanted some action i think they
00:37:32.580
wanted to stop the truck and i could understand if you're a five foot something woman driving a little
00:37:39.260
tractor and you're surrounded by a bunch of tough guys some of whom are masked up some of whom are
00:37:44.200
shouting and it's nighttime i can understand why you want to get the heck out of there we've seen in
00:37:49.140
some other instances in in other countries when cars are swarmed the driver makes a split second decision
00:37:57.260
if i don't get out of here i'm going to be killed and i don't think it came close to that level although
00:38:02.780
they sort of smacked the trailer with their placards as it drove away but i don't know you're probably
00:38:08.840
too young to remember it but um there were riots in los angeles when i was a kid and the truck driver
00:38:14.200
reginald denny was pulled out of his truck and and just absolutely uh beaten i can't remember
00:38:21.020
i don't think he died but it was a grave assault pulled out of his truck i i um i don't know i was
00:38:27.540
i had mixed feelings about i i don't want to see someone run over in a tractor of course but if
00:38:34.080
someone in the tractor is swarmed um i can understand them wanting to get out anyway i
00:38:39.980
will see what happens if when the mayor says i want an investigation i'm worried that the police say oh
00:38:46.160
we've been instructed to make an arrest so we'll see how that goes um i don't think it's going to
00:38:52.500
ever stop my point of view is that many of these protesters are are i believe they're paid and
00:38:57.440
instructed to do this we we've seen reports in global news that there's 700 iranian agents in
00:39:03.020
in canada we've seen another report in global that there's hundreds of hamas agents in canada
00:39:08.300
and i've got to think that you know if there's a core of people who show up every single week it
00:39:13.700
wouldn't surprise me if they're funded and directed i don't know i just maybe that's canada today or
00:39:19.420
maybe that's the long arm of some foreign interest do you have any factual information about the
00:39:25.780
nature of these protesters some certainly seem to be professional protesters that that that said the
00:39:31.700
jews typically came out every sunday for an hour and i don't think they were paid i mean i know some
00:39:37.300
of them i think they just went there because they felt like they had to do something what's your view
00:39:40.700
on that so i'm not privy to anyone's bank accounts um but my instinct is that the majority of people who
00:39:48.520
show up at the majority of demonstrations um aren't doing so for any sort of financial incentive
00:39:56.200
um and are generally well intentioned um whatever their intentions may be um now there is a discernible
00:40:08.560
core group of organizers um a relatively small number of people who are the directing minds behind
00:40:17.260
a disproportionately large number of protests and whether they receive funding through ngos some of
00:40:26.780
which are uh government funded um through uh indirect sort of uh means through mutual aid channels through
00:40:38.960
crowdsourcing and funding through union or um political office slush funds um
00:40:47.240
that is is is is an investigation that's worth undertaking uh it's beyond the scope of what i can do
00:40:54.480
um it wouldn't really surprise me if in fact there were individuals who had um sort of a an incentive
00:41:03.740
beyond simply the community aspect of protests the sort of social change aspect of it um and you know for
00:41:13.920
a number of people and we kind of alluded to this um at the outset um activism provides good cover
00:41:22.860
for anti-social behavior if you're there with a righteous cause under a righteous banner uh all sorts of
00:41:31.600
unacceptable behavior somehow becomes normalized uh and so i do think that that's a driving force here
00:41:40.580
uh also worth noting that some of you know the some of these organizers before october 7 um were out in
00:41:49.560
the streets on a regular basis for other issues uh and will continue to do so uh after you know this
00:41:57.220
the after after this uh circuit of protests um changes or winds down or become something else um so it there
00:42:08.180
is an astroturfed element to demonstrations in canada no doubt about it in my mind um that's true to some degree
00:42:15.540
across the political spectrum a lot of my uh attention has been focused on um sort of the omni cause
00:42:24.720
uh broadly speaking left um but neither of those are really fair descriptors um but yeah there's more than
00:42:35.300
meets the eye but i think we should really uh resist the simplistic explanation of well they're only here
00:42:41.240
because they get a paycheck i don't think that's true for the majority of people yeah i think you're
00:42:45.620
right in toronto and montreal and i think ottawa as well there is a cadre of people who if it weren't
00:42:53.220
palestine it might be oil it might these may have been the you know uh occupy toronto occupy wall street
00:43:00.020
folks black lives matter there is a a group and i i remember when i first came to toronto 15 years ago
00:43:07.520
for sun news uh i would start to recognize the same faces at event after event even though they
00:43:14.500
were completely separate subjects you would see people and and some of them did tell me they worked
00:43:19.840
for unions i remember at the occupy toronto um which was sort of an anti-bank or anti-capitalist
00:43:26.440
movement there were people there who said they were paid by unions i don't think they would be as
00:43:30.660
chatty with me in 2025 as they were 15 years ago kareem it's great to catch up with you thank you
00:43:36.400
what's the best way for people to follow your work and to help chip in because like rebel news you are
00:43:42.300
independent and uh if folks want to help you crowdfund what's the way that they can do that
00:43:47.400
uh so my stuff gets posted first on twitter um if you just google sad lawyer toronto you will find my
00:43:55.100
twitter account farima rules i also have a youtube page um and those are the best ways to find me
00:44:01.700
right on well thank you so much and we really rely on your on the ground video we like to do it too
00:44:08.280
but you just seem to be able to detect these things in advance and you you cover them so well and we
00:44:13.740
really rely on your footage i know a lot of other media do including some more mainstream media they're
00:44:18.620
always taking screenshots of your videos so that shows you're on the spot when the news is breaking
00:44:24.020
great to have you thanks for for coming on the show today thank you take care i will there you
00:44:28.600
have a karima sad protest mania is what she calls her coverage and it's just great on the scene
00:44:36.780
hey welcome back your letters to me on danielle smith's uh use of the notwithstanding clause
00:44:51.740
in alberta tammy emcrit says the notwithstanding is the ultimate barrier against federal government
00:44:58.560
judicial tyranny in that sense it's the most important thing in the constitution smith is using
00:45:03.620
it exactly as it was meant that's the thing don't forget that the charter of rights would not have been
00:45:10.380
passed into law uh unless that notwithstanding clause was put in there the premier said that gives
00:45:16.420
way too much power to the courts we need to be able to say no to the courts from time to time
00:45:22.060
by the way you invoke the notwithstanding clause it only lasts for five years you have to renew it in
00:45:27.500
five years so there's lots of checks and balances on it if i were premier i'd use the notwithstanding
00:45:32.820
clause every day just to normalize it next letter is on mark carney's buzzwords oh he uses so many of
00:45:42.060
them isn't he uh denise crana says knew this from day one a degree gives you no experience just the ability
00:45:48.580
to talk a word solid over and over yeah you know there are some ideas that are so full of it only a phd
00:45:56.100
could believe them i mean sometimes there's a need for terminological exactitude like if you're a
00:46:04.060
specialist doctor sure you're going to use certain precise jargon to describe let's say a medical
00:46:11.140
illness yeah i i accept the fact that certain areas of expertise have a complex technical vocabulary of
00:46:19.240
course that's true i mean think of math sine cosine tangent those are technical words that you can't get
00:46:25.900
around but i think politics is not such a profession politics when you have a politician using baffle
00:46:32.580
gap like that it's not that he's a master of some obscure scientific area it's that he's trying to
00:46:38.580
come across as a certain way but obscure information anyone who tries to hide information rather than
00:46:45.240
reveal information is someone you should be skeptical of last letter from vernis k gardner mark carney
00:46:52.900
travels all the time to avoid avoid polyab in the house he's a weak man yeah i really can't believe
00:46:59.040
how much mark carney is traveling and i think a lot of it is he just loves to travel and and you know
00:47:05.520
me i fly around a lot in canada and every once in a while i go to the uk and ireland i go i don't know
00:47:11.700
almost once a month i'd say and i'm excited when i go because it's a whole new world and i'm going to
00:47:18.180
be doing something new and um there's a feeling of i'm going somewhere that's more exciting than my
00:47:24.680
everyday life i get that i won't lie i i get a certain excitement of going on these uh news
00:47:30.940
adventures now i i always come back as quick as possible they're not tourism they're we're working
00:47:36.860
full tilt mark carney i think is the same way i think he says i'm excited about what i'm going to
00:47:45.900
in the g20 in south africa in the nato meeting in the trip to the uae but i think it's not just that
00:47:54.080
he's excited to go there i think he's relieved to get away from the tough stuff here at home
00:48:00.360
i don't think he's used to handling a caucus of 150 160 mps each of them making demands on him he
00:48:08.620
didn't have to meet with 150 people all wanting a piece of his time when he ran brookfield did he
00:48:14.200
he didn't have the terrible economic situation the meltdown in our immigration situation um he never
00:48:22.820
had negotiating troubles like he has with donald trump when when mark carney is in ottawa he is
00:48:29.100
unhappy that's not his normal place frankly canada is not his normal happy place he still has a home
00:48:36.560
in the uk when he travels abroad he can feel free again unencumbered by the burdens of canadian
00:48:43.020
political duty as i said in my monologue i don't think that mark carney is temperamentally suited
00:48:48.860
to being prime minister well that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here
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rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom