Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Mark Carney temperamentally suited to public life？

00:00:00.000 hello my friends a new outburst from mark carney he was asked if donald trump has called him lately

00:00:06.400 and he said oh who cares who cares well that was your central campaign promise i'll show you the

00:00:13.060 video and i'll show you how this is part of a pattern for carney but first let me invite you

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00:00:32.660 tonight is mark carney temperamentally suited to public life it's november 24th and this is the

00:00:53.880 ezra levant show

00:00:54.880 shame on you you censorious bug

00:01:01.060 i saw this snippy little exchange between prime minister mark carney and a reporter next question

00:01:16.280 who cares i mean it's a detail it's a detail i spoke to him i'll speak to him again when it matters

00:01:22.700 i mean the sort of comme j'ai dit nous sommes très occupés nous sommes très très occupés

00:01:29.880 avec l'avenir du canada nous sommes met chez nous et avec les avec les nouveaux partenariats

00:01:37.880 et il y aura il y aura il y aura des conversations oui avec avec le président et moi probablement dans les

00:01:48.020 prochaines les prochaines deux semaines mais et on attend de uh you know i'm always happy to sorry

00:01:57.900 i slipped into french because i anticipated the uh uh the en français thing um uh uh the uh i look

00:02:05.900 forward to speaking to uh the president soon but i i don't have a burning issue to speak with the

00:02:11.860 president about right now um when america wants to come back and have the discussions on the trade

00:02:17.860 side we will have those discussions so just in case you missed it he was asked by a reporter if he's

00:02:23.460 spoken to u.s president donald trump lately and he says who cares it's just a detail and then he

00:02:30.380 seems to panic a little bit so he switches to french really just i think to shut himself up and give him

00:02:36.860 a way out i think that's what it looked like and then he stops and calls that the en français thing

00:02:43.160 so um who cares that he hasn't spoken to trump i mean who cares right well he said he cared

00:02:51.980 that was pretty much his central campaign platform in the last election he was the one the only one he

00:02:59.000 said who could handle donald trump who could protect canada from trump who could out negotiate trump

00:03:05.280 because carney knows how the world really works he said who cares well i'm guessing some folks who

00:03:12.260 work in the uh auto industry care trump has more or less said he's going to move those factories

00:03:17.880 down to the united states from canada who cares i don't know there's a lot of people who do

00:03:24.040 mainly people who voted for him that would be like a conservative politician saying who cares

00:03:30.620 about some fundamental conservative issue like reducing the carbon tax or supporting freedom of

00:03:36.020 speech imagine if a conservative on a core issue said oh who cares it reminded me in its childish

00:03:43.620 petulance of carney just a week or so ago talking about oil pipelines is this pipeline going to come

00:03:51.660 so it's so boring it's not actually it is it is no but it is it is because it's look it's don't worry

00:03:58.900 we're on it we're on it like we're on it but there is this whole world okay hands up who's working

00:04:04.680 on the pipeline in this room okay isn't that a problem no no no no look at all the variety like

00:04:13.060 nav like does your like it's we have yeah if there's more prosperity they'll get more cell phone

00:04:21.480 cell phone services but look look okay so what's going to drive one of the things with yeah don't

00:04:28.040 worry we're on the we're on the pipeline stuff danielle's on line one don't worry it's going to happen

00:04:32.060 but well something's going to happen let's put it that way um yeah oil pipelines are boring

00:04:39.120 did you know that many things in running a government may seem boring if you're measuring

00:04:45.720 it against i don't know jet setting to exotic conferences at five-star hotels in places around

00:04:52.420 the world like davos and the world economic forum which is pretty much what mark carney did full time

00:04:58.800 until he became prime minister sorry to bore you but even that's not true you know you could say

00:05:05.160 oil pipelines are boring but i just don't think they're that's accurate i think they're actually

00:05:11.320 all the rage even brookfield the company that carney used to chair that company in which carney still

00:05:18.320 has hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stock they're buying up pipelines like crazy just not in

00:05:24.240 canada they're not that crazy oil pipelines are sexy if you care about jobs if you care about

00:05:31.760 expanding canadian exports of our most valuable resource which is oil our oil and gas exports are

00:05:39.480 more value or triple as valuable as our entire auto exports oil pipelines are a key strategy if you

00:05:47.280 really do want to diversify our exports off the u.s because right now almost all of our oil goes to

00:05:55.120 the u.s and because we have one dominant customer the u.s economies call that economists call that a

00:06:03.120 monopsony have you ever heard that word it's sort of the opposite of a monopoly monopoly is you have one

00:06:10.100 seller so they can jack the prices up artificially high because what are you going to do in a

00:06:16.160 monopoly monopoly it's a funny word you have a lot of sellers but just one buyer the united states

00:06:24.180 so prices are artificially low so if we actually had a new pipeline to the pacific coast where we

00:06:31.380 could sell oil to japan korea india taiwan you'll notice i didn't say communist china even though they

00:06:38.140 would surely want to buy it too if we sold it to all the democracies of asia not only would we increase

00:06:45.060 exports but it would allow canadian oil producers to get paid at world prices rather than at a landlocked

00:06:51.920 deep discount to world prices which is what canada gets right now so it would be a double win more oil

00:06:58.360 sales at a higher price and american destined oil would get a higher price too so yeah sorry to bore you

00:07:06.800 prime minister sort of be so boring we can't all be as exciting and super cool as you talking about

00:07:13.500 carbon capture or other complete bs that no one would actually buy were it not for fake green

00:07:19.280 subsidies or government mandates pipelines are boring to mark carney because there's something

00:07:24.720 that the real world already does the real world demands pipelines the real world supplies pipelines

00:07:29.880 private companies do it all there's no role for the government no need for the government

00:07:33.980 other than imposing red tape on it whereas his schemes always seem to involve

00:07:39.800 government investments that is subsidies like carbon capture or wind turbines it's all fake

00:07:47.700 there would be no real market for any of that unless the government was involved

00:07:51.780 mark carney hates oil pipelines because they don't need him he just gets in the way doesn't he

00:07:58.260 so they make him feel unimportant he's revealed to be an economic imposter you support oil pipelines

00:08:04.400 if you do you're you're boring has trump called you oh who cares yeah i i think he's sort of giving

00:08:13.200 it away like a poker tell he's easily irritated when things aren't going his way isn't he he gives

00:08:21.160 it away like that time he chided the cbc's rosemary barton who made the grave mistake a mistake she has

00:08:27.700 never repeated i might add of actually once asking mark carney about his conflict of interest remember

00:08:34.160 that the rules say that those assets should be publicly disclosed within 120 days which means

00:08:39.400 you'll campaign in a coming federal election most likely within the next 120 days and are serving

00:08:45.200 as prime minister now with canadians not being aware of what potential conflicts of interest

00:08:50.220 what possible conflict would you have stephanie stephanie i'm complying with the rules i'm complying

00:08:55.140 with the rules in advance point for you yes yes there's no possible conflict of interest in your

00:09:07.740 assets it's very difficult look inside yourself rosemary i mean you start from a you start from a

00:09:16.280 uh uh uh a prior of of conflict and uh ill ill uh ill will um do you see the pattern here mark carney

00:09:27.280 loses his cool and gets chippy and snippy and snappy when he's frustrated when he's asked about something

00:09:33.380 he doesn't have a good answer to oil pipelines stop bothering him trump shut up conflict of interest

00:09:40.380 look inside yourself rosemary carney says he doesn't care that he can't get a phone call from

00:09:47.340 donald trump do you believe him i think he cares very much the entire rest of the world is lined up to

00:09:54.380 meet with donald trump just in the last week trump has had a state dinner for the crown prince of

00:09:59.960 saudi arabia he met with the new mayor of new york city he had a phone call with the uk's prime

00:10:06.840 minister keir starmer he's working even today on the ukraine russia peace deal i think vladimir

00:10:13.400 zelensky is in washington today if i'm not mistaken trump does occasionally travel to other countries

00:10:19.720 once in a while but most of the time people come to him it's the opposite for carney very few world

00:10:25.840 leaders will come to ottawa he's the one flying around the world non-stop for quick photo ops and his

00:10:32.240 message is always that canada doesn't really need the united states now i don't know he's who he's

00:10:38.280 trying to convince of that but if it's an attempt to use reverse psychology on the americans i don't

00:10:44.080 think it's working i don't think anyone in washington even notices carney does odd things like he suggested

00:10:52.120 canada will rip up our contract that we signed with the united states two years ago to buy f-35 fighter

00:10:58.740 jets and instead he's considering buying less capable much older fighter jets made in sweden

00:11:08.960 um i can only imagine the billions of dollars in penalties that ripping up a contract with

00:11:15.100 the f-35 manufacturers would cost but really the bigger cost obviously would be hardening trump's

00:11:21.380 heart even more in terms of trade deals and the auto industry so yeah who cares he says well i i don't

00:11:28.220 know if carney is temperamentally fit for the job i think he's failed upwards again and again in life

00:11:34.120 now he's being promoted to the level of his incompetence i don't think it's a good look

00:11:39.240 hey i wanted to mention another thing today uh the first uh was carney's chippy attitude which i think

00:11:47.860 gives us a little flash in of what he's made inside but the the other one is a phenomenon on x formerly

00:11:54.240 known as twitter that i think can be fairly said to comprise the public square in canada and the u.s

00:12:01.460 and much of the west i think twitter or x is the town hall i mean obviously there are real public

00:12:07.860 squares real town hall meetings and the like and people sometimes go to those how what was the last

00:12:13.040 time you went to a town hall do you even go to one once a year if that i think the bulk of the

00:12:20.360 national conversation has moved online and while there are other online platforms like facebook

00:12:27.220 twitter really does dominate canadian conversations um about politics and in america too

00:12:33.840 if you can believe in my own twitter account did you know that mine is the largest of any journalists

00:12:40.340 in canada not to brag i have more than half a million followers and i only mention that

00:12:44.620 because i don't get a subsidy like the aforementioned rosemary barton in fact i have twice as many 0.95

00:12:51.780 followers how is that even possible she's got the entire cbc behind her how do i have twice as many

00:12:57.660 followers i don't know i've got triple what andrew coin has obviously i tweet in my own name but a lot

00:13:03.140 of people on twitter as you may know are anonymous now it's not necessarily bad some people have to be

00:13:10.180 anonymous to keep their identity private because their real job would forbid them from taking

00:13:15.220 strong stands on public issues but there are a ton of anonymous twitter accounts that sort of act like

00:13:21.720 drones or swarms it's pretty obvious that they're fake they're not real people they might just only have

00:13:29.920 a handful of followers and they make pretty obviously fake criticisms i get a ton of them

00:13:38.040 whenever i say something critical of the liberal party or the democratic party in the u.s suddenly

00:13:43.320 swarms of bots that's what they're called short for robots come and leave poorly worded critiques and

00:13:51.400 and and disagreements on my twitter feed i can i can tell when someone's a real critic and some of these

00:13:57.500 are fake but some anonymous accounts like i say are more than just trolls they're thoughtful and actually

00:14:03.580 build up hundreds of thousands of followers so there are real anonymous critics i'm not

00:14:07.880 saying all my critics are trolls you saw a lot of these emerge during the israel hamas war

00:14:13.300 mainly promoting hamas usually claiming to be based in gaza itself but here's the news i wanted to tell

00:14:20.000 you about because i think it's sort of revealing over the weekend twitter or acts added a feature or

00:14:26.220 change their rules whichever is your perspective now you can see where any particular twitter account

00:14:34.960 was signed up where it's located where it was bought from the app store now this can still be

00:14:42.460 tricked in some ways through something called a vpn i won't get into that but given that many twitter

00:14:48.660 accounts especially the big ones were set up long ago when the idea that twitter would reveal your

00:14:53.520 location wasn't even a thought on anyone's radar i think a lot of these revelations over the weekend are

00:15:00.120 really accurate countless pro-palestinian accounts that had claimed to be reporters on the ground in

00:15:06.020 gaza have been proven to be fake um they're anywhere but gaza they might be in turkey they might be in

00:15:13.340 nigeria they might be in pakistan thousands of miles away even though some of them claim to be

00:15:18.980 journalists and those but their stories were just made up same thing i've noticed with some so-called

00:15:26.120 america first twitter accounts attacking trump from the right ironically a lot of these racist

00:15:33.840 accounts are run from pakistan so many of these fake twitter accounts pretending to be white or even

00:15:42.400 aryan as they might say are actually fake accounts run from pakistan isn't that weird

00:15:48.800 i don't understand this part i i mentioned rosemary barton canadian journalists like rosemary

00:15:56.560 barton and the cbc itself are listed as having signed up in the united states what i have no idea

00:16:06.420 why they would do that i mean i know that the cbc is real and i know their head office is in

00:16:11.480 toronto so why did they register in america um i don't get it maybe they contracted out their twitter

00:16:19.040 contract to some american firm i i'd find that very interesting rebel news is obviously rooted here

00:16:26.580 in canada and so am i and i just found that very interesting and i thought it was a real eye-opener

00:16:31.480 at how much propaganda we hear and we see is completely fabricated and often funded by foreign

00:16:42.540 dictators and why not we've known that iran has hundreds of actual human agents operating in canada

00:16:50.700 just last week we learned that hamas itself does too so if iran and qatar have between them more than a

00:16:59.080 thousand actual people on the ground in canada spreading their ideas of violence and hatred and

00:17:05.100 confusion why would it be so hard to believe that they've created fake online accounts to do the same

00:17:11.700 thing too and not just to argue about their favorite issues like pakistan or qatar or gaza but to sow

00:17:20.580 seeds of dissension amongst us to whip up american conservatives against donald trump to whip up canadian

00:17:27.300 conservatives against pierre polyev to sow demoralization and confusion next time you see

00:17:34.000 some bot some obviously fake account uh ask yourself who's behind it you don't have to guess anymore you

00:17:42.820 can actually check odds are it's someone pretending to be someone they're not stay with us for more

00:17:57.300 for more than a year there's an intersection in toronto not too far away from my house that saw

00:18:03.820 dueling protests on the one side were jewish and pro-israel protesters who started a weekly campaign

00:18:12.700 as a free the hostages campaign and basically it was in a pretty jewish neighborhood and they waved

00:18:18.860 israeli flags and played israeli music and tried to be positive and keep each other's spirits high

00:18:25.120 that's what it looked like to me and i would see it as i drove past well then across the street in the

00:18:31.720 same neighborhood pro-palestinian and in some cases pro-hamas counter-protesters would come they

00:18:40.460 didn't live in the neighborhood many of them drove in from miles away but every sunday they came to

00:18:46.160 counter-protest and some would find it distasteful that they would counter-protest the first protest which

00:18:53.660 the main purpose of which was releasing the hostages well these dueling protests went on for

00:18:59.840 pretty much a year and police were deployed on mass not just that but there were a lot of arrests made

00:19:07.260 typically of people like myself or david menzies who got too close to the palestinian side of the street

00:19:15.520 i didn't know there was such a thing you might recall that when i was arrested the police said that it

00:19:20.960 was because my mere presence on the public sidewalk could cause a disturbance here's a clip of the

00:19:27.700 police telling me that and then arresting me when i didn't move

00:19:32.200 you're not asking you're pushing okay you're gonna be arrested if you don't for what arrested for what

00:19:38.380 for reaching the peace i haven't reached the peace i think you have they have i think you have i haven't

00:19:43.940 i haven't breached the peace this is my neighborhood you're you're being here is breaching the peace but

00:19:50.080 that means i've been a legal person in my own country you're reaching the peace here i haven't

00:19:55.660 reached the peace i know i i listen i don't want to arrest you well a few weeks ago a peace deal for

00:20:02.540 what it's worth was signed or agreed to in the region with major regional players like turkey and

00:20:10.480 saudi arabia egypt and jordan signing on with israel signing on and most importantly through its qatari

00:20:17.840 proxies hamas itself signed on so the primary call of the pro-palestinian protesters for a year

00:20:25.940 on the face of it was meant there is a ceasefire obviously if there are any breaches of the ceasefire

00:20:32.900 the other side fights back but generally it could be said that the war in gaza is over in fact there's a

00:20:41.180 large planning center nearby where israeli american and other countries including military are working

00:20:51.500 on the next phase of the plan which would be to clear the rubble and start rebuilding gaza along

00:20:58.360 with a foreign un style police force to make sure things stay in hand i don't know if it has a chance 1.00

00:21:06.520 of success in my mind hamas is an implacable foe but maybe donald trump is right the question is

00:21:14.820 what's going on here in canada if the hostages are returned if the ceasefire is in effect what

00:21:22.500 is the state of affairs for the protest well there's only one person to ask for that question

00:21:27.980 her name is karima sad and she has been documenting this protest and all other street protests in the

00:21:34.920 region with a series she calls protest mania what a pleasure to be joined by karima sad and great to

00:21:41.020 see you again thanks for taking the time thanks for having me so i mean you can agree or disagree with

00:21:47.840 the statement the war is over the ceasefire is in effect but at the very least things the energy level

00:21:54.900 the kinetic level of the conflict is down massively i mean there's no more waves of attacks there's

00:22:02.580 it it seems like there is a path to peace what's it like on the streets in toronto

00:22:09.180 well um the protests have continued um so notwithstanding the ceasefire um we've continued

00:22:19.360 to see demonstrations including outside the u.s consulate including at bathurst and shepherd

00:22:25.420 and beyond uh where protesters either are dissatisfied with the terms of the ceasefire or that it hasn't

00:22:37.140 been adhered to um are not thrilled about the proposal to rebuild gaza as it stands and generally

00:22:47.380 speaking uh many of the other points that they disseminate have have stayed the same um so you

00:22:54.640 wouldn't necessarily know um based on continued protest activity that uh there has been a major

00:23:03.460 material change in in the status of the conflict i mean i can understand that people aren't quite

00:23:09.420 happy with it i mean it was a trumpian deal he sort of leaned on israel to get them to accept it

00:23:16.680 he leaned on saadi arabia qatar like he really made everyone put some water in their wine that's how

00:23:23.520 it looked to me obviously i'm a complete outsider as much as anyone but i mean the the death toll the

00:23:31.640 direction of things on the ground it is moving on to a new chapter why have the protests in toronto

00:23:39.900 not done the same what is their call to action if they can no longer say we demand a ceasefire what are

00:23:48.300 they demanding well there have been uh evolving calls to action um and uh just recently uh there was a

00:23:57.520 protest where the speaker says you know ceasefire was only ever intended to be the beginning and sort

00:24:05.060 of a starting point to our demands um and other demands include um addressing war crimes or crimes against

00:24:16.260 humanity um at least having some sort of adjudication on who did what to whom uh and the disarmament of

00:24:25.360 israel has been raised as another point um so you know it is an evolving list of of demands

00:24:33.440 uh one of the things that's happened in the last few weeks because the jewish protest hasn't happened on

00:24:41.500 the northwest side of that intersection as has been done it it looks through your reporting which is

00:24:48.020 i mean i haven't been there personally i've just seen your reporting it looks like some of the pro

00:24:52.120 palestinian and sometimes pro homage protesters have left that public street corner and have walked

00:24:59.840 into residential neighborhoods uh with flags and they've heckled and been heckled by

00:25:06.780 private residents moms dads people in a like there's no there's no embassy there there's no consulate

00:25:13.960 there's no businesses they're going on residential streets what's going on there what do they say

00:25:20.500 when they're in those neighborhoods and how i mean does that change in the um the focus here if

00:25:29.140 they're if they're really just walking through a jewish neighborhood getting into arguments with jews

00:25:34.500 that feels like maybe palestine or the war was a proxy for just an underlying anti-semitism that's how it

00:25:44.200 looks to me so as you described at the outset um you know you had initially a group of um pro-israel

00:25:54.200 supporters who were rallying to free the hostages they were there for about a year until counter

00:26:00.560 protestors counter protesters showed up um and then that lasted for about a year after the ceasefire

00:26:08.100 and the return of the remaining hostages the pro-israel rally um sort of wound down uh and stopped

00:26:15.980 showing up um and i think that was a a conscious decision in the hopes that okay this intersection

00:26:22.720 will return to sort of a regular boring intersection um but that that's not what happened um pro-palestine

00:26:31.440 protesters continued to show up and i would um i would say that the absence of a rally on the other side

00:26:40.680 of the street um sort of left them looking for something to do uh and kind of a way to take their

00:26:49.440 message and so what they opted was to go down residential streets um now if you were to ask them

00:26:58.420 uh about this tactic and the propriety of it the purpose the utility um i think you would get a range

00:27:07.520 of answers um one person we spoke with yesterday um disputed the the notion of a jewish neighborhood

00:27:16.480 saying that census data shows it's mostly christian mostly filipino um and sort of she was playing with

00:27:26.120 the statistics a little bit in that way and saying essentially we're not here to intimidate we're not

00:27:31.900 here to harass um we're here to be peaceful of course the flip side to that is um you have some

00:27:38.660 who are quite literally uh as hamas leaders um which you know uh just the optics of that the sight of that

00:27:50.840 um is is triggering uh i think especially when it's foisted upon civilians who ostensibly have no

00:28:00.640 direct link to israel um and toronto police for their part um have kind of varied their approach

00:28:09.720 slightly week by week uh based on the online reaction to footage that's coming out of the

00:28:17.080 neighborhood um but on the whole have remained fairly hands-off uh and so what we saw happen just

00:28:26.420 this past week was the return of uh some of the original rally organizers who came with their flags

00:28:33.800 who joined the march down the residential streets um we had an inspector who kind of lost his his temper

00:28:41.520 not in a in an overly dramatic way um but you could really see the frustration um in in sort of the

00:28:48.740 inability to manage these competing groups um and so we remain at an impasse here

00:28:55.360 i don't want any interaction i've got to keep the peace that's my job i'm trying to do that

00:29:23.300 i'm trying to do that i'm just trying to keep you guys separate in order to keep public safety

00:29:30.580 it's not it's going to escalate the situation and we're going to get people

00:29:36.740 this interaction is not part of that not good um you know i like i said i live in the neighborhood

00:29:56.080 and uh it's true that there is a filipino population but it's largely in apartments it's fairly most of

00:30:04.740 them are new canadians who uh were born in the philippines and come over lately it's it's an

00:30:09.160 expensive neighborhood to own a house i would say just from my personal observations and i mean i know

00:30:15.180 that it is one of the most jewish neighborhoods in canada i know that from studying the electoral map

00:30:21.260 and the and the uh in our we had a political battle against the liberal mp in that neighborhood

00:30:27.700 so i i delved into the demographics a bit um it's true there's a lot of filipino people in the

00:30:34.020 neighborhood but in those how in the detached houses it's much more jewish um than than i think 0.87

00:30:42.180 the the average in the neighborhood any i'm arguing minutiae there have been protests in other parts of the

00:30:49.640 cities too and one caught my eye because these protests often block streets they did that they

00:30:58.540 they used to block the bridge into the armor heights neighborhood where the current protests are there

00:31:04.220 like street blocking does not seem to be punished in toronto and there was a protest downtown

00:31:11.800 and someone who was working a little tractor a little kubota mini tractor with a plow at the front

00:31:21.040 it seemed i don't know how it happened seemed to be in the thick of it and i don't know if she panicked

00:31:28.360 or it was just adamant but she drove through the crowd now i don't think she hit anybody here we're

00:31:35.840 going to show the the clip right now as i'm talking uh it shocked people yeah you can see

00:31:43.400 the tractor there uh it wasn't a massive tractor and it didn't speed through it went through at sort

00:31:50.400 of a walking pace um tell me what happened what i mean i've seen this from several angles and we'll play

00:31:56.420 several angles on the screen what happened who was that lady did anyone get hurt and do we know if 0.99

00:32:04.980 the police are doing anything so this protest was happening outside the u.s consulate and unlike

00:32:12.980 other demonstrations where protesters um are are blocking infrastructure or roadways this played out

00:32:21.280 entirely on the sidewalk um and to my observation for the majority of the time the sidewalk itself was

00:32:29.240 actually clear if anyone's familiar with this area it's it's sort of right in front of the

00:32:34.620 superior court of justice there's a very large pedestrian space and so the majority of protesters

00:32:40.960 were actually not even on the sidewalk they were in this kind of a plaza area okay and um the speaker

00:32:49.120 was he was in the center of the sidewalk um and you know as he was going on um his sort of his speech

00:32:58.680 and his explanation um i could see blue lights flashing out of the corner of my eye and i could hear

00:33:05.540 honking uh and so i turned and that's where kind of our footage starts is you see this tractor

00:33:12.680 um and it's approaching at a pretty slow pace um you know you wouldn't have to necessarily run too fast

00:33:22.680 to to keep ahead of it um and there was no snow there was no ice on this particular day um but there

00:33:30.720 were other tractors doing similar things downtown um this particular tractor was accompanied by

00:33:37.840 um a pickup truck with a plow um that was driving on the road and so what my understanding is they were

00:33:44.120 doing like a dry run ahead of snowfall um and the the beeping and the lights um rather than people

00:33:55.000 getting out of the way it seemed to have the opposite effect um where because i i presume because

00:34:03.180 the tractor didn't really slow down um sort of maintained the same steady pace um as she approached the

00:34:10.900 demonstration um rather than getting out of the way you had protesters who actually tried to stop it

00:34:17.800 and and stepped in front of the tractor um were hitting it with their flags and their signs um and

00:34:24.540 again i was there so my kind of initial thought in seeing a large vehicle approach and it's maintaining

00:34:31.760 its steady speed like i i jumped to kind of negative thoughts about what this could be and you know are

00:34:38.880 planning to run someone over what's going on here in actual fact she had plenty of room um to drive down

00:34:47.340 the sidewalk unimpeded that didn't actually happen because protesters uh took a front and started to

00:34:54.300 block the vehicle at that point um you know she didn't stop i i don't really blame her for not

00:35:01.640 wanting to stop in the middle of a crowd that was increasingly agitated um and she drove past

00:35:08.340 um as she drove past she flipped someone the bird um and was grinning while doing it it later turns out

00:35:14.820 that she has a pretty uh rich social media history uh with criticism for protests um i think the most

00:35:22.740 notable post was uh her commenting on an all lives splatter meme get out of the road um so from that i think

00:35:32.340 i think um some people are uh inferring negative intent in the initial interaction um but you know what

00:35:40.660 i will say is everyone was behaving perhaps a little bit below the standard we might expect in a civil

00:35:49.540 society um there was no reason for any sort of negative interaction um and and no reason really for

00:35:57.300 her to have been impeded um police did stop her a couple of blocks away um took id um i think a brief

00:36:04.720 statement uh ultimately she continued on her work that day um it's now turned into uh you know a bigger

00:36:12.900 story with the mayor weighing in and saying that this needs to be investigated um and and i think that

00:36:20.760 the situation has been both exaggerated and minimized depending on sort of the person doing the analysis

00:36:29.220 their their vantage on all of this and kind of the narrative that they want to to push and the truth

00:36:36.500 is kind of anti-climatic somewhere in the middle but this could have been a very serious incident

00:36:44.620 didn't need to be and ultimately wasn't really yeah you know what we discussed earlier the protest at

00:36:52.980 that batherson uh um shepherd intersection when they didn't have a counterpoint when they didn't have

00:37:00.880 a foil they sort of went looking for action in the neighborhoods that's my gut feel here is that

00:37:07.660 when this kubota trailer came with its lights and on the sidewalk oh this is an opportunity to have 1.00

00:37:13.080 some excitement we're just standing around talking to ourselves this gives us a uh a point of conflict

00:37:18.720 even though i think it was a greek lady if i if i'm identifying her name correctly so and and she may

00:37:25.740 like you say have had a political disposition against them but i think they wanted some action i think they

00:37:32.580 wanted to stop the truck and i could understand if you're a five foot something woman driving a little 1.00

00:37:39.260 tractor and you're surrounded by a bunch of tough guys some of whom are masked up some of whom are

00:37:44.200 shouting and it's nighttime i can understand why you want to get the heck out of there we've seen in

00:37:49.140 some other instances in in other countries when cars are swarmed the driver makes a split second decision

00:37:57.260 if i don't get out of here i'm going to be killed and i don't think it came close to that level although

00:38:02.780 they sort of smacked the trailer with their placards as it drove away but i don't know you're probably

00:38:08.840 too young to remember it but um there were riots in los angeles when i was a kid and the truck driver

00:38:14.200 reginald denny was pulled out of his truck and and just absolutely uh beaten i can't remember

00:38:21.020 i don't think he died but it was a grave assault pulled out of his truck i i um i don't know i was

00:38:27.540 i had mixed feelings about i i don't want to see someone run over in a tractor of course but if

00:38:34.080 someone in the tractor is swarmed um i can understand them wanting to get out anyway i

00:38:39.980 will see what happens if when the mayor says i want an investigation i'm worried that the police say oh

00:38:46.160 we've been instructed to make an arrest so we'll see how that goes um i don't think it's going to

00:38:52.500 ever stop my point of view is that many of these protesters are are i believe they're paid and

00:38:57.440 instructed to do this we we've seen reports in global news that there's 700 iranian agents in

00:39:03.020 in canada we've seen another report in global that there's hundreds of hamas agents in canada

00:39:08.300 and i've got to think that you know if there's a core of people who show up every single week it

00:39:13.700 wouldn't surprise me if they're funded and directed i don't know i just maybe that's canada today or

00:39:19.420 maybe that's the long arm of some foreign interest do you have any factual information about the

00:39:25.780 nature of these protesters some certainly seem to be professional protesters that that that said the

00:39:31.700 jews typically came out every sunday for an hour and i don't think they were paid i mean i know some

00:39:37.300 of them i think they just went there because they felt like they had to do something what's your view

00:39:40.700 on that so i'm not privy to anyone's bank accounts um but my instinct is that the majority of people who

00:39:48.520 show up at the majority of demonstrations um aren't doing so for any sort of financial incentive

00:39:56.200 um and are generally well intentioned um whatever their intentions may be um now there is a discernible

00:40:08.560 core group of organizers um a relatively small number of people who are the directing minds behind

00:40:17.260 a disproportionately large number of protests and whether they receive funding through ngos some of

00:40:26.780 which are uh government funded um through uh indirect sort of uh means through mutual aid channels through

00:40:38.960 crowdsourcing and funding through union or um political office slush funds um

00:40:47.240 that is is is is an investigation that's worth undertaking uh it's beyond the scope of what i can do

00:40:54.480 um it wouldn't really surprise me if in fact there were individuals who had um sort of a an incentive

00:41:03.740 beyond simply the community aspect of protests the sort of social change aspect of it um and you know for

00:41:13.920 a number of people and we kind of alluded to this um at the outset um activism provides good cover

00:41:22.860 for anti-social behavior if you're there with a righteous cause under a righteous banner uh all sorts of

00:41:31.600 unacceptable behavior somehow becomes normalized uh and so i do think that that's a driving force here

00:41:40.580 uh also worth noting that some of you know the some of these organizers before october 7 um were out in

00:41:49.560 the streets on a regular basis for other issues uh and will continue to do so uh after you know this

00:41:57.220 the after after this uh circuit of protests um changes or winds down or become something else um so it there

00:42:08.180 is an astroturfed element to demonstrations in canada no doubt about it in my mind um that's true to some degree

00:42:15.540 across the political spectrum a lot of my uh attention has been focused on um sort of the omni cause

00:42:24.720 uh broadly speaking left um but neither of those are really fair descriptors um but yeah there's more than

00:42:35.300 meets the eye but i think we should really uh resist the simplistic explanation of well they're only here

00:42:41.240 because they get a paycheck i don't think that's true for the majority of people yeah i think you're

00:42:45.620 right in toronto and montreal and i think ottawa as well there is a cadre of people who if it weren't

00:42:53.220 palestine it might be oil it might these may have been the you know uh occupy toronto occupy wall street

00:43:00.020 folks black lives matter there is a a group and i i remember when i first came to toronto 15 years ago

00:43:07.520 for sun news uh i would start to recognize the same faces at event after event even though they

00:43:14.500 were completely separate subjects you would see people and and some of them did tell me they worked

00:43:19.840 for unions i remember at the occupy toronto um which was sort of an anti-bank or anti-capitalist

00:43:26.440 movement there were people there who said they were paid by unions i don't think they would be as

00:43:30.660 chatty with me in 2025 as they were 15 years ago kareem it's great to catch up with you thank you

00:43:36.400 what's the best way for people to follow your work and to help chip in because like rebel news you are

00:43:42.300 independent and uh if folks want to help you crowdfund what's the way that they can do that

00:43:47.400 uh so my stuff gets posted first on twitter um if you just google sad lawyer toronto you will find my

00:43:55.100 twitter account farima rules i also have a youtube page um and those are the best ways to find me

00:44:01.700 right on well thank you so much and we really rely on your on the ground video we like to do it too

00:44:08.280 but you just seem to be able to detect these things in advance and you you cover them so well and we

00:44:13.740 really rely on your footage i know a lot of other media do including some more mainstream media they're

00:44:18.620 always taking screenshots of your videos so that shows you're on the spot when the news is breaking

00:44:24.020 great to have you thanks for for coming on the show today thank you take care i will there you

00:44:28.600 have a karima sad protest mania is what she calls her coverage and it's just great on the scene 1.00

00:44:34.380 reporting stay with us your letters to me next

00:44:36.780 hey welcome back your letters to me on danielle smith's uh use of the notwithstanding clause

00:44:51.740 in alberta tammy emcrit says the notwithstanding is the ultimate barrier against federal government

00:44:58.560 judicial tyranny in that sense it's the most important thing in the constitution smith is using

00:45:03.620 it exactly as it was meant that's the thing don't forget that the charter of rights would not have been

00:45:10.380 passed into law uh unless that notwithstanding clause was put in there the premier said that gives

00:45:16.420 way too much power to the courts we need to be able to say no to the courts from time to time

00:45:22.060 by the way you invoke the notwithstanding clause it only lasts for five years you have to renew it in

00:45:27.500 five years so there's lots of checks and balances on it if i were premier i'd use the notwithstanding

00:45:32.820 clause every day just to normalize it next letter is on mark carney's buzzwords oh he uses so many of

00:45:42.060 them isn't he uh denise crana says knew this from day one a degree gives you no experience just the ability

00:45:48.580 to talk a word solid over and over yeah you know there are some ideas that are so full of it only a phd

00:45:56.100 could believe them i mean sometimes there's a need for terminological exactitude like if you're a

00:46:04.060 specialist doctor sure you're going to use certain precise jargon to describe let's say a medical

00:46:11.140 illness yeah i i accept the fact that certain areas of expertise have a complex technical vocabulary of

00:46:19.240 course that's true i mean think of math sine cosine tangent those are technical words that you can't get

00:46:25.900 around but i think politics is not such a profession politics when you have a politician using baffle

00:46:32.580 gap like that it's not that he's a master of some obscure scientific area it's that he's trying to

00:46:38.580 come across as a certain way but obscure information anyone who tries to hide information rather than

00:46:45.240 reveal information is someone you should be skeptical of last letter from vernis k gardner mark carney

00:46:52.900 travels all the time to avoid avoid polyab in the house he's a weak man yeah i really can't believe 1.00

00:46:59.040 how much mark carney is traveling and i think a lot of it is he just loves to travel and and you know

00:47:05.520 me i fly around a lot in canada and every once in a while i go to the uk and ireland i go i don't know

00:47:11.700 almost once a month i'd say and i'm excited when i go because it's a whole new world and i'm going to

00:47:18.180 be doing something new and um there's a feeling of i'm going somewhere that's more exciting than my

00:47:24.680 everyday life i get that i won't lie i i get a certain excitement of going on these uh news

00:47:30.940 adventures now i i always come back as quick as possible they're not tourism they're we're working

00:47:36.860 full tilt mark carney i think is the same way i think he says i'm excited about what i'm going to

00:47:45.900 in the g20 in south africa in the nato meeting in the trip to the uae but i think it's not just that

00:47:54.080 he's excited to go there i think he's relieved to get away from the tough stuff here at home

00:48:00.360 i don't think he's used to handling a caucus of 150 160 mps each of them making demands on him he

00:48:08.620 didn't have to meet with 150 people all wanting a piece of his time when he ran brookfield did he

00:48:14.200 he didn't have the terrible economic situation the meltdown in our immigration situation um he never

00:48:22.820 had negotiating troubles like he has with donald trump when when mark carney is in ottawa he is

00:48:29.100 unhappy that's not his normal place frankly canada is not his normal happy place he still has a home

00:48:36.560 in the uk when he travels abroad he can feel free again unencumbered by the burdens of canadian

00:48:43.020 political duty as i said in my monologue i don't think that mark carney is temperamentally suited

00:48:48.860 to being prime minister well that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here

00:48:55.400 rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom

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Rebel News Podcast - November 25, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Mark Carney temperamentally suited to public life？

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