Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ It’s true — Mark Carney is trying to put together an anti-American world coalition

00:00:00.040 Hello, my friends. Big show today. I'm going to take you through Mark Carney's speech in response

00:00:04.920 to Marco Rubio's speech. Marco Rubio gave a talk in Munich talking about the proud Western heritage

00:00:11.420 of America. And Mark Carney is saying, yeah, no, we're not the same way. Are we? Was he fairly

00:00:18.600 characterizing Marco Rubio's talk? It's more interesting than it sounds. I think it shows a

00:00:23.060 real anti-American streak on Mark Carney's behalf. I'll take you through it. But first,

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00:01:38.720 Tonight, it's true. Mark Carney's trying to put together an anti-American world coalition.

00:01:44.320 It's February 18th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:50.780 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:53.880 Oh, hi, everybody. You know, I'm looking at my Twitter feed, I'm looking at the news, and I'm 0.93

00:02:07.120 monitoring the situation. But I have to say, I think an attack on Iran, or maybe Iran will attack 0.87

00:02:13.120 first, is imminent. I mean, I've been saying that for a couple of weeks, but it really feels

00:02:18.400 pregnant. So many assets are being flown into the region by the United States and the UK and other 0.98

00:02:23.460 allies to aircraft carriers on the scene. And I think the most telling warning is Israeli home 1.00

00:02:31.040 defense alerts. I think that a war with Iran is coming. And I think it's what Donald Trump

00:02:36.660 has been calling for for more than a decade. It's interesting that people have an opinion on

00:02:42.080 what Donald Trump should do and say about China or Iran. And of course, everyone's entitled to their

00:02:47.560 own opinion, including me. But if you go back and read Trump's early tweets, I'm talking about

00:02:53.100 back in back five years before he even ran for president. He tweeted about China and Iran constantly.

00:03:00.620 He thought China was getting away with murder on trade. He still says that now as president.

00:03:04.840 And he was insistent that the deal with Iran on nukes, especially once Barack Obama started giving

00:03:11.300 them everything they wanted, including pallets of cash. Donald Trump has been worried about Iran for a very

00:03:16.840 long time. And I think it's coming to a head now, especially given the murder of the Iranian regime 0.96

00:03:24.640 by them of 30, 40,000 of their own citizens. I think the U.S. military dominance that the world saw in

00:03:32.300 Venezuela, the high tech, the precision, the training, overwhelming the defenses. And China was said to have

00:03:39.920 provided the deterrent anti-missile systems and anti-aircraft systems in Caracas that didn't work.

00:03:46.880 It's going to be put to the test. I mean, I think it's going to be an enormous but brief battle.

00:03:54.900 Venezuela is much smaller than Iran, obviously. And in Venezuela, the goal was very narrow to seize 0.93

00:04:00.980 one man, well, and his wife as well, and leave the country intact. There were two hours on the ground.

00:04:06.500 Iran is obviously much bigger, 90 million souls. It's much wealthier. It's been run by a death cult 1.00

00:04:12.800 for decades, which means they've had years to harden their assets, to build military installations. I

00:04:23.140 mean, Venezuela is so poor compared to Iran. Iran, though, has had a bad couple of years. All their 1.00

00:04:30.700 regional proxies have been defeated. Lebanon has kicked out Hezbollah, and that was after Hezbollah was

00:04:36.460 devastated, decimated by the Israeli cell phone or beeper explosives. As you know, Iran basically 1.00

00:04:43.760 ran Syria through Bashar Assad. He's been deposed. He lives in Moscow now. Hamas did devastating damage

00:04:50.780 to Israel, especially on the PR side. But Hamas has been defanged largely. And of course, Venezuela

00:04:57.660 itself was a bit of an Iranian client state. So this is the final showdown. All of Iran's proxies 0.96

00:05:03.040 have been beaten. I think it's coming. There will likely be casualties to try something on this

00:05:09.020 largest scale. And I don't think it can all be done from the air. I think there'll be a combination of

00:05:14.780 overwhelming air power and then special operations on the ground, including by Israel. I think Israel's 0.92

00:05:22.360 going to do some very heavy lifting. It has the most modern F-35 jets and F-16s and F-15s. And Israel 0.92

00:05:29.300 was involved in the 12-day war against Iran, which involved destroying a lot of their ballistic

00:05:35.500 missile sites and their aircraft sites. Anyways, I'm glad Trump doesn't seem to be listening to the

00:05:42.680 Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Qatar wing of the Republican Party. He's following his instincts that

00:05:49.580 he has outlined for more than a decade. Trump is building a coalition to do that, not the massive

00:05:56.000 coalition that George W. Bush put together a generation ago for the war in the Middle East. But this is a

00:06:01.580 coalition of countries that can actually do something. So Israel has a very powerful military. The United

00:06:07.540 Kingdom is sending air assets. And the little Gulf states in the region, at the very least, are allowing 1.00

00:06:13.080 the United States to operate. I wonder who else, if anyone, will participate. I know that Canada will

00:06:19.360 not, because we literally can't. We don't have modern jets that could operate alongside these very

00:06:27.540 modern, equipped American and British and Israeli jets. But our guy, Mark Carney, is doing very

00:06:34.740 important things. I mean, Donald Trump might be about to free Iran, topple the hostile regime,

00:06:39.660 dump their nukes. He'll move on Cuba imminently, too. Donald Trump is reshaping the world. But

00:06:46.300 Mark Carney is busy doing very important things, putting together a global anti-Trump coalition.

00:06:52.460 And believe it or not, that's what I want to talk mainly about today. I don't know if you saw this

00:06:57.400 tweet. It was in Politico Europe. So my guess is you didn't see it. I'll read it to you. Exclusive.

00:07:02.880 The European Union and a 12-nation Indo-Pacific bloc are opening talks to explore forming one of the

00:07:11.740 largest global economic alliances, multiple people with knowledge of the talks told Politico.

00:07:17.340 Canada's Mark Carney is spearheading the discussions. Are you proud? That's what Canada is known for?

00:07:26.000 It doesn't surprise me, actually. It's what Mark Carney's been doing for a decade.

00:07:30.200 He's been crisscrossing the world, not just as Brookfield Asset Management's chairman,

00:07:37.880 but as the head of the Global Financial Alliance for Net Zero, as the UN's climate ambassador. He

00:07:44.340 had all these jobs at the same time, and he would spend all his time just crisscrossing the world

00:07:48.920 going from conferences and Davos and meetings and the UN. In a way, I think he actually knows more

00:07:55.840 world leaders and VVIPs than maybe anyone else in the world, other than perhaps the playboy Alex

00:08:03.680 Soros, who had inherited those connections from his father, George. Now, I think a lot of this is,

00:08:11.180 I think a lot of it is BS. It's just for show. It's propaganda. Like the liberals making a big fuss

00:08:18.480 about their trip to Mexico. Let me read to you from Dominic LeBlanc, who's supposed to be in charge

00:08:25.260 of the Canada-US relationship. Remember that Carney said he's a grown-up? Dominic LeBlanc is busy in

00:08:32.020 Mexico saying it was an honor to meet with the president of Mexico, Claudia Scheinbaum, to advance

00:08:37.420 the Canada-Mexico Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. This Team Canada trade mission to Mexico is a testament

00:08:43.820 to our shared commitment to generate prosperity, security, and sustainability for both our

00:08:48.480 countries. But Mexico doesn't really buy much from Canada at all. Canadians export to Mexico a grand

00:08:56.700 total of $8.9 billion, and that's down. But Canada imports from Mexico, I don't know, five times as much?

00:09:06.860 $46 billion worth. It's like when Mark Carney went to China. So he agreed to buy 49,000 Chinese electric

00:09:17.180 vehicles. And what did they do for us exactly? What did they? I mean, isn't the whole idea to sell more,

00:09:24.680 to have them buy our stuff and give us their money? Mexico is five-fold lopsided. We buy their stuff. 0.69

00:09:31.060 How's that helping Canada again? But it's anti-American, isn't it? Like the whole Greenland 1.00

00:09:38.760 escapade of setting up a consulate in a country where there's only 16 Canadians, Greenland.

00:09:44.000 But look at this response to Marco Rubio's big speech in Munich the other day. Widely praised,

00:09:49.500 very well received. Marco Rubio went there to explain the United States foreign policy,

00:09:55.380 and in ways that were much less acerbic than J.D. Vance's speech last year, or than a Trump speech

00:10:03.160 can be like the one that Trump gave at Davos. Here, I want to show you a couple of clips from

00:10:07.540 Marco Rubio's speech. These are chosen almost randomly. It was such a good speech. It was so

00:10:11.920 densely packed. I think Marco Rubio is great. I got to say, I would love it if he were to go on to

00:10:20.940 become president. He's so thoughtful. He's a master of foreign relations. I think he deeply

00:10:26.480 believes in freedom, and he articulates things so well. Take a look at a couple of clips.

00:10:31.720 For five centuries before the end of the Second World War, the West had been expanding.

00:10:37.860 Its missionaries, its pilgrims, its soldiers, its explorers pouring out from its shores to cross

00:10:43.060 oceans, settle new continents, build vast empires extending out across the globe.

00:10:49.040 But in 1945, for the first time since the age of Columbus, it was contracting. Europe was in

00:10:58.720 ruins. Half of it lived behind an iron curtain, and the rest looked like it would soon follow.

00:11:05.760 The great Western empires had entered into terminal decline, accelerated by godless communist 1.00

00:11:11.220 revolutions and by anti-colonial uprisings that would transform the world and drape the red 0.98

00:11:18.180 hammer and sickle across vast swaths of the map in the years to come. Against that backdrop, then, as now,

00:11:26.780 many came to believe that the West's age of dominance had come to an end, and that our future

00:11:32.160 was destined to be a faint and feeble echo of our past. But together, our predecessors recognized that decline

00:11:44.080 was a choice, and it was a choice they refused to make. This is what we did together once before,

00:11:51.180 and this is what President Trump and the United States want to do again now, together with you.

00:11:59.240 And this is why we do not want our allies to be weak, because that makes us weaker.

00:12:04.980 We want allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will ever be tempted to test our collective

00:12:10.880 strength. This is why we do not want our allies to be shackled by guilt and shame. We want allies who

00:12:17.300 are proud of their culture and of their heritage, who understand that we are heirs to the same great

00:12:22.520 and noble civilization, and who, together with us, are willing and able to defend it. And this is why

00:12:30.720 we do not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo rather than reckon with what is necessary

00:12:36.960 to fix it. For we in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West's

00:12:45.520 managed decline. We do not seek to separate, but to revitalize an old friendship and renew the

00:12:53.600 greatest civilization in human history. What we want is a reinvigorated alliance that recognizes

00:12:59.440 that what has ailed our societies is not just a set of bad policies, but a malaise of hopelessness

00:13:05.740 and complacency. An alliance, the alliance that we want, is one that is not paralyzed into an action

00:13:11.780 by fear. Fear of climate change, fear of war, fear of technology. Instead, we want an alliance that

00:13:18.160 boldly races into the future. And the only fear we have is the fear of the shame of not leaving our

00:13:25.020 nations prouder, stronger, and wealthier for our children. An alliance ready to defend our people,

00:13:32.160 to safeguard our interests, and to preserve the freedom of action that allows us to shape our own

00:13:36.440 destiny. Not one that exists to operate a global welfare state and atone for the purported sins

00:13:42.840 of past generations. An alliance that does not allow its power to be outsourced, constrained,

00:13:48.960 or subordinated to systems beyond its control. One that does not depend on others for the critical

00:13:54.960 necessities of its national life. And one that does not maintain the polite pretense that our way of

00:14:01.320 life is just one among many. And that asks for permission before it acts. And above all, an alliance

00:14:09.300 based on the recognition that we, the West, have inherited together, what we have inherited together

00:14:16.620 is something that is unique and distinctive and irreplaceable. Because this, after all,

00:14:24.420 is the very foundation of the transatlantic bond.

00:14:26.860 You know, I should probably go through the entire speech. Because although it's a few days ago now,

00:14:31.840 it's so important. But my point is the speech was great. It was well received. It was proud and

00:14:38.440 historic. And it was a good pep talk to the West. Sometimes I think J.D. Vance and even Trump can

00:14:43.160 make people feel down because he's so bombastic. But Marco Rubio was encouraging people to feel great

00:14:48.700 with him. Sort of the opposite of Mark Carney's whiny anti-American speech at Davos, where he basically

00:14:54.700 called for all the little countries to join together to take down the evil USA. Oh, excuse me,

00:14:59.880 all the little countries plus China.

00:15:03.140 We understand that this rupture calls for more than adaptation. It calls for honesty about the

00:15:08.440 world as it is. We are taking the sign out of the window. We know the old order is not coming back.

00:15:15.480 We shouldn't mourn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy. But we believe that from the fracture we can build

00:15:23.960 something bigger, better, stronger, more just. This is the task of the middle powers. The countries 0.97

00:15:31.800 that have the most to lose from a world of fortresses and the most to gain from genuine cooperation.

00:15:37.920 The powerful have their power. We have something too. The capacity to stop pretending, to name reality,

00:15:48.400 to build our strength at home, and to act together. That is Canada's path. We choose it openly and

00:15:57.400 confidently, and it is a path wide open to any country willing to take it with us. Thank you very much.

00:16:05.820 And on that same trip, he went to China and he told China he wanted to be part of a China-led

00:16:14.000 new world order. Look at this clip and Scott Moe's reaction. I'll never get tired of looking at that.

00:16:19.600 Take a look.

00:16:20.140 Mine is the first visit of a Canadian prime minister to China in nearly a decade.

00:16:27.440 The world has changed much since that last visit. And I believe the progress that we have made in the

00:16:39.440 partnership sets us up well for the new world order.

00:16:46.700 So Marco Rubio's speech was a rejoinder. It was a rebuttal, in a way, to Carney's speech about being

00:16:55.280 demoralized and being anti-American. And I think Mark Carney just couldn't stand that. Honestly,

00:17:01.420 I don't even know if Marco Rubio saw Mark Carney's speech, but it just was the opposite. So Mark Carney

00:17:07.140 had to respond like he's a pundit or something, like the world is a debate club or something,

00:17:12.720 where it's about scoring points as opposed to securing your national interest. So Mark Carney

00:17:18.000 said this. Here's a little clip that Rebel News reposted yesterday.

00:17:21.180 There's a point important, I believe, between the Davos discourse, one aspect of my comments

00:17:29.300 in Quebec, the discourse of Mr. Rubio in a week in Munich.

00:17:36.580 On part… Mr. Rubio, il a parlé et l'administration américaine de temps en temps parle d'un nationalisme

00:17:47.580 chrétien. OK? OK? Ça, c'est… c'est le droit, c'est le droit de l'administration.

00:17:55.860 C'est pas le nationalisme canadien. Le nationalisme canadien, c'est un nationalisme civique. Un nationalisme

00:18:03.740 canadien. On respecte des cultures diverses, des foies diverses, des gens sans foie, tous

00:18:14.740 les aspects de la diversité, la grande diversité de ce beau pays. Ça, c'est un point très

00:18:22.740 fondamental. Alors, on a des changements à travers le monde, un monde plus dangereux et

00:18:28.740 divisés. Mais il y a une lutte qui commence avec le nationalisme de saint et de foi de

00:18:41.740 temps en temps et le nationalisme canadien. Et c'est important, oui, c'est important de

00:18:47.740 protéger notre pays dans une matière de défense. Mais surtout, c'est important… c'est plus

00:18:53.740 important de protéger notre système, nos droits et notre système de respecter tous

00:19:00.740 les gens qui habitent ici. Merci. 0.64

00:19:04.740 Merci.

00:19:05.740 Merci.

00:19:06.740 Merci.

00:19:07.740 Merci.

00:19:08.740 Merci.

00:19:09.740 Merci.

00:19:10.740 Hang on a second.

00:19:11.740 Did Marco Rubio actually say that?

00:19:12.740 Did he really call for Christian nationalism, which to liberals has a certain meaning?

00:19:17.740 It's code for, I don't know, racism or prejudice or something.

00:19:21.740 That's how it's used typically by the Canadian left.

00:19:24.740 Marco Rubio did not say that.

00:19:26.740 In a 22 minute speech, Rubio mentioned the word Christian precisely three times.

00:19:33.740 Let me show you all three times, and I'll give you some sentences before and afterwards

00:19:37.740 so you can see I'm not hiding anything.

00:19:39.740 Here, take a look at this first clip.

00:19:41.740 For the United States and Europe, we belong together.

00:19:46.740 America was founded 250 years ago, but the roots began here on this continent long before.

00:19:53.740 The men who settled and built the nation of my birth arrived on our shores carrying the 1.00

00:19:58.740 memories and the traditions and the Christian faith of their ancestors as a sacred inheritance,

00:20:04.740 an unbreakable link between the old world and the new.

00:20:09.740 We are part of one civilization, Western civilization.

00:20:14.740 We are bound to one another by the deepest bonds that nations could share,

00:20:18.740 forged by centuries of shared history, Christian faith, culture, heritage, language, ancestry,

00:20:26.740 and the sacrifices our forefathers made together for the common civilization to which we have fallen heir.

00:20:34.740 That's really nice, actually.

00:20:36.740 That is not Christian nationalism as meant by the left, the anti-Christian left.

00:20:42.740 That's just talking about our heritage, and it is true.

00:20:45.740 And by the way, especially in Latin America, it was Christians coming to be missionaries, to save souls.

00:20:52.740 That is how Western civilization spread to the Americas.

00:20:57.740 That's just talking about our history and our heritage.

00:20:59.740 So those were two of the three mentions of the word Christian.

00:21:03.740 And here's the third word, Christian.

00:21:05.740 So in a time of headlines heralding the end of the transatlantic era, let it be known and clear to all that this is neither our goal nor our wish.

00:21:17.740 Because for us Americans, our home may be in the Western Hemisphere, but we will always be a child of Europe. 0.64

00:21:26.740 Our story began with an Italian explorer whose adventure into the great unknown to discover a new world brought Christianity to the Americas and became the legend that defined the imagination of our pioneer nation.

00:21:38.740 Our first colonies were built by English settlers to whom we own not just the language we speak, but the whole of our political and legal system.

00:21:54.740 Our frontiers were shaped by Scots-Irish, that proud hardy clan from the hills of Ulster that gave us Davy Crockett and Mark Twain and Teddy Roosevelt and Neil Armstrong.

00:22:12.740 Our great Midwestern heartland was built by German farmers and craftsmen who transformed empty plains into a global agricultural powerhouse.

00:22:22.740 And by the way, dramatically upgraded the quality of American beer.

00:22:27.740 Yeah, this isn't a hateful speech.

00:22:29.740 This is friendly, diverse, upbeat, historically accurate.

00:22:34.740 Mark Carney says that that's not who Canada is.

00:22:37.740 We're not Christian like that. 0.98

00:22:39.740 And he says we're more diverse.

00:22:41.740 Are we really more diverse than America?

00:22:43.740 I'm not sure.

00:22:44.740 But are we really less Christian?

00:22:46.740 Maybe nowadays that we are after a century of, I don't know, Marxism being deployed against our institutions.

00:22:53.740 But does Mark Carney even know the history of Christianity in Canada?

00:22:58.740 Does he know that our Constitution mentions Christianity, specifically Protestants and Catholics, and guarantees rights to those groups several times?

00:23:07.740 Does he know that the very first sentence of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, even before Section 1, the preamble, refers to the supremacy of God?

00:23:17.740 Does Carney know that the King of Canada, King Charles, is also the head of the Church of England?

00:23:25.740 I think he may believe this is a non-Christian or post-Christian country.

00:23:30.740 And he's certainly working on that.

00:23:32.740 But, by the way, he's making tweets about Ramadan, even if he's done with the Christians.

00:23:37.740 Mark Carney is the most anti-American prime minister in a century.

00:23:42.740 And that's his right.

00:23:44.740 And it looks like a lot of Canadians agree with him, especially in Ontario.

00:23:48.740 But just don't pretend that disparaging the United States, and sucking up to China and Qatar, and declaring Canada un-Christian, just don't pretend that any of that is in Canada's national interest.

00:24:01.740 In Carney's interest?

00:24:03.740 As someone trying to whip up votes?

00:24:05.740 Sure.

00:24:06.740 As someone who hates the U.S. world order and prefers China? 0.82

00:24:09.740 Sure.

00:24:10.740 But he is making our country anti-American.

00:24:12.740 And don't think that won't add fuel to the fire of Alberta independence.

00:24:17.740 Stay with us for more.

00:24:23.740 The most important thing is that the Liberal government is one step closer to majority.

00:24:28.740 I think we're going to be in election season sooner rather than later.

00:24:33.740 As someone who previously denied ever crossing the floor and, in fact, was going to resign to spend time with family, has now crossed the floor to the Liberals.

00:24:44.740 And that is Conservative MP Matt Jenneru from Edmonton Riverbend.

00:24:49.740 I guess I'll throw it to the guys first.

00:24:52.740 Stockwell Day, comments?

00:24:54.740 Well, thanks, Sheila.

00:24:55.740 I can tell you it's disappointing to see, not just obviously as a supporter of the Conservative Party, but just from a Democratic point of view.

00:25:02.740 When you run to get elected locally, you tell people you're going to serve them under a certain party banner.

00:25:08.740 And frankly, you either were lying at the time or your judgment capabilities are so out of line that maybe you shouldn't be serving.

00:25:19.740 So this is disappointing.

00:25:20.740 Certainly, it causes people to be cynical about the process.

00:25:24.740 It's going to, it obviously puts pressure on the Conservatives.

00:25:29.740 Now we're in a place, I believe there's three Liberal by-elections coming up, all in previously Liberal-held ridings.

00:25:36.740 So will Carney have to go to an election?

00:25:38.740 Maybe, maybe not.

00:25:39.740 But this is very disappointing from Democratic process.

00:25:42.740 And I hope there will be a robust recall campaign that gets launched to make life, at the very least, to make life difficult for the MP who has done this.

00:25:53.740 Oh, good, sir.

00:25:54.740 I am working on it already.

00:25:56.740 David, comments from you?

00:25:59.740 Yeah, it's a betrayal of his constituents.

00:26:02.740 I think he's a good guy, but it's the last political thing he'll be able to do.

00:26:07.740 And I think this is very short-sighted.

00:26:09.740 I think moves like this by guys like this are so short-sighted because it doesn't just violate the Democratic principle of constituent representation.

00:26:19.740 It also fundamentally undermines people at a time where they're hurting, they want to be heard, they want to be understood by a government that's been kind of evading that.

00:26:28.740 And this is a card trick.

00:26:30.740 I also think that basically it points to a likely election coming up.

00:26:35.740 I think this is, in so many ways, this is a big mistake by Matt.

00:26:39.740 Yeah, I see former Conservative MP, and I think generally a good guy, Rick Perkins, has noted that Matt doesn't live in the riding and hasn't for quite some time.

00:26:51.740 Yeah.

00:26:52.740 And that he's already in British Columbia, so run in British Columbia if his seat opens up.

00:26:59.740 I mean, not only are you not now respecting the Democratic will of the people of Riverbend, but you aren't even there.

00:27:08.740 And then you're going to cross the floor to the Liberals.

00:27:12.740 Matt, I think he won by about six points.

00:27:15.740 So he's held the riding since it was created in 2015.

00:27:19.740 And, you know, you sort of, as demographics change, you've seen sort of that huge gap between the Conservatives and the Liberals close there.

00:27:27.740 But he's still one-handily and, you know, he's completely ignoring the message sent by those constituents. Ezra?

00:27:35.740 You know, floor crossing this quickly after an election with no good reason other than, hey, I thought I would be more powerful and have a bigger, you know, salary.

00:27:46.740 That's an insult to the democratic process no matter what.

00:27:50.740 I mean, if there were a grand reason, if there were an important philosophical or ideological reason, I think people would have more patience for it.

00:27:59.740 To switch to be a turncoat this soon after an election, and we saw the same thing happen in Nova Scotia a month or so ago.

00:28:07.740 It's outrageous, but let me add one more layer to it, because right now Alberta is gearing up for a referendum on secession.

00:28:16.740 And, in fact, I think tomorrow night the Premier is going to have an address talking about that.

00:28:21.740 And there are people actively signing petitions to get out of Canada.

00:28:25.740 And the people of Edmonton Riverbend did something positive.

00:28:30.740 They say, no, we're going to vote for a federalist party because we think we can work with the system and elect someone to parliament to challenge the bad directions this country is going.

00:28:41.740 All right. You said work within the system. So we will.

00:28:45.740 So they vote in that district for a conservative.

00:28:47.740 And I haven't checked, but I understand that conservative that district has always been conservative.

00:28:52.740 Yeah, it has.

00:28:53.740 In private backroom arrangements, some inducement, a secret inducement that we do not know, is proffered to this candidate who just ran months ago on being a conservative.

00:29:07.740 What do you think everyone in that district, everyone in that riding is thinking now?

00:29:13.740 They're thinking the obvious. The system is rigged.

00:29:16.740 When we do what we're told, when we play within the rules, it's rigged.

00:29:19.740 They buy him off in a corrupt manner.

00:29:22.740 The election was a sham.

00:29:23.740 Imagine making the case for federalism in Edmonton Riverbend saying, hey, guys, no, no, don't lose hope.

00:29:29.740 Just keep at her, guys. 0.80

00:29:31.740 Just keep electing conservatives.

00:29:32.740 And if we need to, we'll buy them off.

00:29:34.740 But just just go through that gerbil wheel.

00:29:36.740 Keep running around.

00:29:37.740 I think that Mark Carney didn't realize the separatist echoes of what he did because he just proved the system is broken for Alberta conservatives.

00:29:49.740 Talk well.

00:29:50.740 Well, I think that adds to it.

00:29:52.740 There's no question.

00:29:53.740 We'll see where the whole discussion goes.

00:29:55.740 I think you want to talk about that a bit relative to separation.

00:30:00.740 And I have to further to what Ezra said.

00:30:05.740 Maybe, Matt, when I say this charitably, maybe he needs, you know, some help in terms of just stability.

00:30:12.740 Because, you know, a wise man once said this to me, and I'm being careful here, that when something happens in politics that completely makes no sense at all, somebody is getting paid off.

00:30:25.740 And I'm not saying that applies here, but it's either that or something so overwhelmed his judgment.

00:30:32.740 As Ezra's pointed out, there's been a long standing seat here.

00:30:35.740 And first of all, if there is something personal going on, you know, mentally with him, I hope he gets help.

00:30:42.740 But there still is no excusing what he did.

00:30:45.740 And constituents need to come down hard on this.

00:30:49.740 And as I said, just said a minute ago, we need to see a really robust recall.

00:30:54.740 Whether it works or not, it sends a message.

00:30:57.740 Fighting a recall campaign is expensive.

00:30:59.740 It's time consuming.

00:31:01.740 It's emotionally draining.

00:31:02.740 And he should have to pay the price on every one of those on every one of those fronts.

00:31:07.740 Well, and it makes people so cynical because what has tangibly gotten better that you would reward the liberals with your support?

00:31:18.740 I mean, these are issues that Matt Gennaro campaigned on in the last election 90 seconds ago.

00:31:25.740 So, you know, has crime improved?

00:31:28.740 Property rights improved?

00:31:29.740 Firearms rights improved?

00:31:31.740 Have we dealt with illegal and out of control immigration or the cost of living? 1.00

00:31:36.740 Have we repaired the trade issues with the Americans?

00:31:39.740 No, no, no, no, and no.

00:31:41.740 So why are you rewarding the liberals with your support?

00:31:45.740 It causes people to speculate on the things that Stockwell just mentioned, David.

00:31:51.740 Yeah, look, parties are an organizing structure for interest to be aggregated around real interest.

00:31:59.740 And people vote conservative because they believe that freer markets and lower taxes and more autonomy will create more prosperity for them and their kids.

00:32:10.740 And they mean it.

00:32:11.740 And when you take away, when you disenfranchise the vote because somebody can do a backroom trade, you create a secondary market in being able to buy off, buy off representatives once they've been elected.

00:32:25.740 And that's a really dangerous precedent for the country.

00:32:28.740 I actually think that if there's one or two more of these, there's going to be a discussion around whether or not you have to have, you know, a waiting period.

00:32:37.740 You have to sit as an independent.

00:32:38.740 I actually think there's a fundamental democratic issue at stake here for the country that has to be addressed.

00:32:44.740 When the shoe's on the other foot, and it will be soon, you know, maybe not sex election after.

00:32:49.740 If the conservatives did the same thing going the other way around and you created this market for backroom trade that allowed you to just subvert the will of the people that have voted and just buy off those merry timers we're always hoping would go conservative, right?

00:33:04.740 And you create a super majority and you push through the entire conservative agenda based on our ability to buy off people that have voted for liberals but we're able to buy their reps off once they had actually gotten into the house, you would have a huge scandal on your hands.

00:33:20.740 And so I think there's going to have to be, this is going to have to be addressed beyond just our frustration because it's conservative crossing the floor.

00:33:28.740 It's actually a fundamental problem and flaw if this is left within community federalism.

00:33:34.740 Well, and you know, you could understand it.

00:33:38.740 I wouldn't like it, but you might understand it if there were some sort of touchstone issue that just exploded that would either drive someone to the liberals if the conservatives had did it or drive a liberal to the conservatives going the other direction.

00:33:52.740 But that hasn't happened.

00:33:54.740 So again, it causes that speculation.

00:33:56.740 Yeah, look, we specifically make up for the potential for there to be issues of conscience by having votes of conscience.

00:34:05.740 Sure.

00:34:06.740 There are issues where somebody says, I know these are my constituents, but I have a conscience.

00:34:11.740 And on a particular issue, I'm not going to just try and vote the popular will of my constituents or my party.

00:34:17.740 So we actually structure votes around solving for that specifically so that you don't create a secondary market in buying off reps once they've already been elected.

00:34:29.740 It's it's a bad precedent.

00:34:30.740 I think it's bad for him as a person and for his, you know, whatever career he wants in the future as well.

00:34:38.740 I remember fondly that great debate he had with Keith Wilson at our sold out Red Deer event.

00:34:45.740 That was a great event.

00:34:47.740 It was foreshadowing the intense energy across the province to sign up for this petition.

00:34:53.740 I want to talk just a little bit more because about that.

00:34:56.740 And I know that there are other I mean, there are other things on our sort of news list here, but I want to make maximum advantage of David's availability.

00:35:05.740 David, I understand that tomorrow the premier is going to announce some details about the referendum process.

00:35:12.740 And of course, it's not just the independence question.

00:35:15.740 I understand, for example, there's going to be an immigration question, too.

00:35:20.740 In fact, I see that the premier's chief of staff is tweeting to sort of foreshadow that.

00:35:26.740 Do you know anything about some of these other referendums?

00:35:29.740 And if if so or if not, what do you think about this immigration question?

00:35:38.740 Oh, really like the way that the premier is leading on these issues.

00:35:46.740 Go ahead.

00:35:47.740 I'm sorry.

00:35:48.740 I thought you were frozen for a second.

00:35:51.740 David, could you say it again?

00:35:53.740 Yeah, I said I don't have any any specific information about the the questions.

00:35:59.740 But what I do like is that the premier is getting in front of these issues and representing Albertans as she sees their interests and talking about them very openly.

00:36:08.740 She's been unafraid to address what is actually a very tricky high wire act for a premier dealing with an issue like separatism and dealing with something like immigration.

00:36:20.740 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:36:21.740 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:36:22.740 And it marks the sea chains because until just really over a year ago, it was unanimous amongst the ruling class that you don't say anything critical of immigration.

00:36:34.740 One of the most cringe worthy moments of the 2021 election campaign was when I think I think I got my date right was when Aaron O'Toole was asked if he has any difference of opinion with Justin Trudeau on immigration.

00:36:52.740 And basically, he said no, but it was sort of a moving whatever Trudeau said, O'Toole had the same answer.

00:36:59.740 So it wasn't even that he had a belief in Trudeau's policy.

00:37:03.740 It's that he was absolutely terrified of allowing Trudeau to criticize him on the subject.

00:37:08.740 It's not that Aaron O'Toole was saying this is the number I support.

00:37:12.740 He was saying whatever the other guy says, me too.

00:37:15.740 Please just don't ask me questions about it.

00:37:17.740 And by the way, in the previous election, Andrew Scheer, I remember the founder of the co-founder of Rebel News.

00:37:26.740 I 15 percent share with my friend Hamish Marshall has since bought him out.

00:37:31.740 But at the very early days of Rebel News, we had a partner, Hamish Marshall, great guy.

00:37:37.740 And he became the campaign manager for Andrew Scheer.

00:37:40.740 So Andrew Scheer came by the office.

00:37:42.740 It was super friendly.

00:37:43.740 Hamish was there.

00:37:44.740 We were all friends.

00:37:45.740 And then I made the mistake of asking Andrew Scheer about immigration.

00:37:49.740 And he dodged it.

00:37:51.740 But he was there in person, so he couldn't hang up.

00:37:54.740 And I asked him four more times.

00:37:56.740 And that was the last Andrew Scheer ever spoke to Rebel News.

00:38:00.740 And I wasn't mean.

00:38:01.740 I just said, do you have anything to say about the quantity of immigration?

00:38:05.740 And do you have anything to say about the nature of that quantity?

00:38:09.740 Oh, my God, those were those were like the third rail.

00:38:13.740 It was like I was asking him to touch an electric wire or something.

00:38:18.740 Yeah.

00:38:19.740 David, why has it suddenly become, I don't know, possible to talk about immigration, whereas a year ago that wasn't true?

00:38:28.740 I think because Canadians have started to realize that it's OK to let people in the political class understand that you're not racist and you're not actually even against immigration.

00:38:42.740 You're against open fraud.

00:38:44.740 Yeah.

00:38:45.740 I think the degree and the scale of the fraud in our immigration policies and our asylum policies, you know, when you see six guys that have been extorting people and destroying the Sikh community, targeting these young Sikh boys to join criminal gangs, violating the pact of the, you know, the Canadian immigration social pact, the civil pact.

00:39:11.740 And when they're caught and they're discovered to have been liars that should have had no place in this country.

00:39:17.740 And the people that are the victims of those crimes are all Sikh people in the Sikh community. 0.99

00:39:23.740 And these these clowns get caught, arrested, arraigned. 0.98

00:39:27.740 And what happens? 0.99

00:39:28.740 They say we want to claim asylum and they get they completely defraud the system again.

00:39:34.740 And as more and more people see this, they start to realize, you know, this has nothing to do with whether you support immigration or not.

00:39:43.740 This has to do with whether you support people that are openly defying what Canada stands for, all of our values, the security of the country.

00:39:52.740 And the number one communities are being destroyed by this open, you know, violent, easily manipulated cartel and criminal syndicate dominated defrauding of the system are the minority communities that are new first generation immigrants and their kids.

00:40:10.740 Right. So I think what's happened is is reality is starting to mug this question in a way that's allowing people not only to feel like they can raise it, but actually go further than that and say, I've absolutely had it with this. Right.

00:40:24.740 Right. People coming in openly defrauding a health care system, an education system that's been letting me and my family down for the last few years because there's too many kids that can't speak English.

00:40:35.740 You know, you've got classroom sizes that are blowing up. You've got hospital wait times that are extraordinary.

00:40:43.740 And you've got people now that, you know, the recent one where they've got this guy, the most sadistic things they've caught him.

00:40:50.740 And they found out that the guy is now using Canadian benefits and health care in spite of the fact that he's a known terrorist.

00:40:57.740 I mean, you can't these things used to be the subject of like Babylon be irony or sarcasm. Right.

00:41:03.740 And it's actually Canada's current system is so broken that you can't even make up the headlines.

00:41:10.740 It's not even dark comedy anymore. Right.

00:41:13.740 And so I think as it's reached a point where, as with so many of these things, something had to break and now it's broken.

00:41:20.740 So you've got billions of dollars the country doesn't have that actual citizens and their kids have to pay back now for generations to fund an open defrauding of the system by people that are intentionally defrauding it using criminal and terrorist syndicates to do so.

00:41:38.740 This has been known for years by people in the know.

00:41:41.740 The fact that it hasn't been dealt with seriously by the government is a break in the trust people have with the government.

00:41:47.740 People in CSIS have been warning about this.

00:41:49.740 People that watch these things from a security perspective have been warning about it.

00:41:53.740 It's people on the street that are sort of realizing just how bad it's gotten as they try and get basic public services and seeing they can't get them anymore.

00:42:02.740 I think it's it's now just kind of an open conversation, you know, and I'm proud of the premier that she's putting it on the table and raising it something that's normally the domain of the federal government.

00:42:13.740 She's saying we've had it here in Alberta. We've got to address it.

00:42:16.740 It's moves like that by her, by the way, that infuriate the the, you know, the so-called elites out east that are actually have the best chance of maintaining Alberta as an autonomous, you know, province within a unified Canada without her making moves like that.

00:42:35.740 This this this this would start to break because people just had it with the complete mismanagement of the country by this stay at home bureaucracy that's now.

00:42:46.740 Do you see this now 80 percent more expensive as a decade ago?

00:42:50.740 Did you I posted something on this?

00:42:52.740 Do you know?

00:42:53.740 Do you know how long do you know the performance of the CRA, which is one of the very few departments that the Auditor General can audit against a set of measured metrics?

00:43:04.740 They they are unable to answer a phone call within 15 minutes, 83 percent of the time.

00:43:13.740 Average time that you spend on the phone waiting for somebody in the CRA to answer that call is 31 minutes.

00:43:20.740 Then when they do answer it, this is the kicker.

00:43:22.740 So if you get lucky, if you're in the 17 percent of Canadians that can actually get your call answered and they answer your question, their error rate is 83 percent.

00:43:33.740 In other words, 83 percent of the time they get the answer they're supposed to give you wrong.

00:43:39.740 Now, let's get back for a second.

00:43:41.740 It's 80 percent more expensive to have people not answer the phone 80 percent of the time.

00:43:48.740 And when they do answer it, they get it wrong 80 percent of the time.

00:43:54.740 I mean, this is a postcard.

00:43:56.740 This is a poster for AI taking over the federal government, firing 40 to 50 percent of these people that are totally incapable.

00:44:05.740 And then the kicker is you see that they are absolutely outraged at the idea that they have to show up in person at work four days a week.

00:44:13.740 Again, you can't you can't make this stuff up.

00:44:16.740 This used to be the stuff of comedy.

00:44:18.740 In a way, they're lucky that they don't get their phone calls.

00:44:21.740 If you're waiting and you hang up in frustration, you need to save yourself a lot of money.

00:44:26.740 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:44:29.740 You don't want to win this lottery.

00:44:32.740 Take your chances.

00:44:36.740 Obese sclerotic bureaucracy actually deign to pick up the phone on one of the days they're at work. 0.93

00:44:44.740 You know, that's that's when the nightmare starts.

00:44:47.740 So.

00:44:48.740 So, yeah, I think I think Canadians are feeling more and more confident that they can address these issues from a point of principle.

00:44:55.740 You know, as you and I grew up in neighborhoods in Alberta, I played a lot of soccer.

00:45:01.740 I ended up playing soccer at the university.

00:45:03.740 Almost most the majority of the guys I played with, we were all first generation Canadians.

00:45:08.740 Our dads had immigrated from our dad's parents had immigrated from somewhere else.

00:45:12.740 Right.

00:45:13.740 Everybody felt lucky to be there.

00:45:15.740 Everybody.

00:45:16.740 You know, my dad sponsored a Bangladeshi doctor and his family through the church.

00:45:21.740 Right.

00:45:22.740 And and when you came in, you worked hard on these things.

00:45:26.740 Your parents expect you to get great, great stuff.

00:45:29.740 There was none of this defrauding the system.

00:45:31.740 There was none of this magnet of benefits being offered to people.

00:45:36.740 People came with a lot of risk and they had to make it.

00:45:39.740 They relied on each other and they relied on their ethnic communities, their families, et cetera, to put it together and make it.

00:45:46.740 Nobody was against immigration.

00:45:48.740 Everybody was an immigrant.

00:45:49.740 You know, in that in the communities I grew up in, people, people were working really hard as immigrants.

00:45:55.740 What people are offended by, especially people that are immigrants, is is when people defraud a system and they abuse it and they do wrong.

00:46:03.740 And that's a universal proposition.

00:46:05.740 Hey, welcome back.

00:46:11.740 Your letters to me.

00:46:12.740 These are taken from our premium comments on our show.

00:46:16.740 Colin Dyler says about Brett Wilson, Brett's a nice enough guy and all, but come on, Canadian provinces can't even negotiate barrier free trade and regulations.

00:46:28.740 Collaboration is a pipe dream.

00:46:30.740 You know, there's something to that letter.

00:46:32.740 I mean, for all the talk about Team Canada and breakdown internal barriers, the biggest internal barrier I can think of is British Columbia blocking any oil pipelines from Alberta.

00:46:43.740 Bruce Atchison said, it won't work.

00:46:45.740 Alberta and Saskatchewan do have a lot in common, but BC has Victoria blocking all good ideas.

00:46:50.740 Manitoba is too leftist.

00:46:52.740 Moreover, central Canada and the Maritimes are stuck in 1867.

00:46:55.740 We're just colonies out west.

00:46:57.740 No, we must go.

00:46:58.740 We'll never get a fair deal in that ball and chain system that used to set up.

00:47:02.740 You know, someone said something the other day that I literally had never thought of in my 54 years and it was maybe Canada's too big.

00:47:11.740 I'd never heard that said until about a week ago.

00:47:14.740 And I've been thinking about it because part of the Canadian identity is we're so big, the vast north, which is 99.999% empty.

00:47:22.740 There's so few people living in our cold north.

00:47:25.740 But maybe east and west it's too big also.

00:47:28.740 Maybe people in Calgary have very little to do with people in Toronto and people in Vancouver have very little to do with people in Halifax.

00:47:35.740 And it doesn't mean that we're hostile.

00:47:37.740 It just means maybe it doesn't make sense to have them ruled by the same ruler, especially someone so authoritarian in Ottawa.

00:47:45.740 Next letter, silver feet said, I am not anti evil, but pro good.

00:47:50.740 Please, friend, you are delusional if you can think you can sit on the fence.

00:47:54.740 It is obvious you are financially beholden to the current system.

00:47:57.740 This is a letter in response to Brett.

00:47:59.740 The same system that has destroyed the lives of so many people.

00:48:02.740 So what should be the decision of Albertans?

00:48:04.740 Vote for prosperity or side with the financial interests of some rich guy who doesn't care less about the common man.

00:48:09.740 Save Alberta.

00:48:10.740 Save Saskatchewan.

00:48:11.740 And by some miracle, save BC.

00:48:13.740 See, I can see Alberta and Saskatchewan being a great country that would have, I don't know about, I'd have to do the math, about 7 million people.

00:48:21.740 It would have an enormous economy from natural resources, bordering with the United States, whose Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson, has already said, oh, we'll take all the Alberta oil.

00:48:33.740 Don't you worry about oil pipelines being blocked.

00:48:35.740 So, and I would think that, frankly, half of BC, the BC interior would join too.

00:48:43.740 That's a real country, by the way.

00:48:45.740 Anyhow, I appreciate your letters.

00:48:47.740 I think this is going to be the number one topic in 2026 as that referendum looms.

00:48:52.740 I understand that tomorrow, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith is going to have something to say about the subject.

00:48:57.740 That will certainly get the noggin joggin'. 0.99

00:49:00.740 Well, that's our show for today.

00:49:02.740 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:49:07.740 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:49:09.740 Keep fighting for freedom! 0.96

00:49:12.740 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:49:16.740 I think yes, unfortunately, because the only thing that Dafür is contributing to this fois, is a good work.

00:49:27.740 I have reached the day after all.

00:49:28.740 Here is closer to another.

00:49:29.740 Can I come back on John and his best friend?

00:49:31.740 Eric Mari Panningis Thought.

00:49:32.740 He has reached this time and now care of as one customer leader.

00:49:34.740 Has happened more and more.

00:49:36.740 There sta lieutenant and he will beurs 2019 as a sponsor.

00:49:39.740 There are no world for you.

00:49:41.740 terior strokes.

00:49:42.740 Even a strong lifestyle.

00:49:43.740 There are no friends.

Rebel News Podcast - February 18, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ It’s true — Mark Carney is trying to put together an anti-American world coalition

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