Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Japan elects first woman — a hardline conservative

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm in Canada, back from Ireland, but I want to talk to you about Japan.

00:00:06.260 They have a new prime minister, and from what I've read about her, she is awesome. And I tell

00:00:13.100 you, her campaign platform is incredible. Let me take you through it today. But first, let me invite

00:00:19.020 you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of this podcast. I'm

00:00:23.260 going to show you a live streamer named Johnny Somali, who was a menace in Japan for years,

00:00:29.100 and who really turned the Japanese against immigration. He was so odious. I want to show

00:00:35.420 you what he did to the Japanese to make them hate him and how that helped win the prime minister,

00:00:41.660 her position. So you've got to get the video version of this podcast. Go to rebelnewsplus.com

00:00:47.200 and click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month, which might not sound like a lot to you, but boy,

00:00:51.140 it adds up for us. Rebelnewsplus.com. Tonight, we all know the Japanese are smart. Well, this week,

00:00:58.120 they really proved it. It's October 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:06.840 This is a monologue about mass immigration, the subject I was just in Dublin, Ireland about,

00:01:12.920 and a country, not Ireland, that has decided it doesn't want to follow the roadmap of Ireland,

00:01:19.640 or the United Kingdom, or Canada, or France, or Sweden, or Germany. Do you ever see those old-timey

00:01:25.800 movie reels of the United Kingdom? They're full of nostalgia, and I wonder why. Is it just a longing

00:01:33.360 for a simpler past, about a time when Britain was British, when it was safe and peaceful and united

00:01:40.040 in purpose, before someone decided that what the UK really needed, what that peaceful kingdom really

00:01:47.100 needed was just a few million migrants from Somalia and Afghanistan? Mass immigration does that.

00:01:55.720 I want to tell you a personal story. I went on a family vacation two years ago, after the October 7th,

00:02:03.180 2023 massacre, when Hamas invaded southern Israel. I wanted to go somewhere where I could take a break

00:02:11.500 from everywhere, being faced with barbarism and stress. I wanted to go to the most

00:02:18.100 un-Middle Eastern place I could find, and it dawned on me to go to Japan. So we took the family for a bit

00:02:26.400 of a vacation. I'd never been there before. I didn't know much about it, but I have to tell you,

00:02:31.460 for the entire time I was there, I felt like I was in a superior civilization, an advanced civilization.

00:02:37.700 They are superior in many ways, not always. And I know I fall in love with countries I travel to,

00:02:44.060 whether it's the UK or Ireland. I like to find the best of everywhere I go to. Maybe you think I'm

00:02:49.760 just a fanboy. But no, Japan is an amazing place. Let me just start with aesthetics.

00:02:57.000 There's almost no graffiti. I'm not going to say there's none in the entire country,

00:03:01.020 but it was startlingly noticeably graffiti free. There's almost no garbage on the streets,

00:03:09.780 not even in alleys. I'm not going to say zero garbage, but in the whole time we were there,

00:03:14.580 I think maybe once I saw some garbage. And the funny thing is there's no public garbage cans. You

00:03:19.980 take your garbage with you. We found 7-Elevens and they had garbage cans. We're not used to

00:03:26.660 having no garbage cans, but it's immaculate and meticulous. Speaking of garbage, when you think

00:03:34.760 of an alley in downtown Toronto or Vancouver or Montreal or Calgary, I don't know about you,

00:03:40.500 but when I think of an alleyway, especially at night, I think danger, I think dirty, I think maybe

00:03:45.860 rats. I think maybe human danger in the form of drug addicts or homeless sleeping there. It is the

00:03:52.100 opposite in Japan. Alleys are immaculate and they hold little hidden secrets, like a tiny restaurant

00:04:00.480 with just eight seats or a tiny craft store. They are the funnest part and completely safe.

00:04:08.760 In my entire time in Japan, a country over a hundred million, I only heard shouting once in our entire

00:04:17.700 time there and it was by a foreigner, a tourist. I don't know if I ever heard a horn honk even once,

00:04:26.180 even driving in the world's largest city of Tokyo. And I know what I'm about to say is probably not

00:04:32.660 true all the time, but just my own anecdotal observations, there were no traffic jams in

00:04:38.660 Tokyo. Again, 40 million people in the greater Tokyo area, but it was like the Jetsons with elevated

00:04:45.300 highways for going between neighborhoods and the lower roads for going within a neighborhood. So if you

00:04:51.860 were traveling, you know, five miles, you would hop up on one of these elevated sky highways and go

00:04:58.740 really fast. And then when you came near your destination, you would come back down to the

00:05:02.900 grand. It was sort of awesome. And to get between cities, there were these bullet trains that really

00:05:08.820 move so fast and they're pretty incredible and easy to deal with. I don't know. It really feels

00:05:15.700 like living in the future. And even the fashion, I felt like a slob. I mean, I was on vacation, but

00:05:21.620 every single person dresses smartly over there. I mean, and with very few exceptions, young women are

00:05:28.420 dressed modestly. I mean, I just was impressed everywhere I went. I thought, yikes, I'm not living up

00:05:33.780 to Japan, just even walking on the street. And there are religion or even at least cultural

00:05:41.140 traditions remain with vestiges of it in many ways, including temples in many places, even in the

00:05:47.940 cities. I found the Japanese people to be polite and dignified and to take their reputation very

00:05:56.980 seriously in how they dealt with you, even as a stranger. In fact, especially as a stranger, it was a

00:06:02.820 very high trust society. I'll be honest, I felt like a noisy, sloppy barbarian the whole time I was

00:06:10.980 there. Interesting things. There's less English skills than you might imagine. Now, I can't go to

00:06:16.420 China for fear of arrest. So this was a better, safer trip to take. It was like living in the future.

00:06:22.180 I mean, I mentioned the bullet trains already. They love futuristic food, even. I mean, they invented

00:06:27.060 ramen soup and even vending machines with hot soup in a can. I know that sounds funny, but it's pretty

00:06:34.180 delicious. They have a whole ramen noodle museum. I went to Hiroshima and I should tell you that that

00:06:42.660 city, which the Americans dropped an atomic bomb on, is completely rebuilt, obviously. Nothing remains

00:06:49.700 radioactive. There is no danger there at all. In fact, there's a little cafe right near what they

00:06:54.020 called the Hypo Center, which is the place right underneath where the bomb went off. Hiroshima, look

00:07:00.100 at the pictures. Hiroshima is in better shape, cleaner, more prosperous, more built up than, say,

00:07:07.620 Port-au-Prince, Haiti. I mean, it's an astounding tribute to the Japanese people. Now, the museum and

00:07:14.340 memorial in Hiroshima is very troubling. In fact, I have to tell you, this was soon after October 7th that I just

00:07:20.740 couldn't take. I just couldn't take the museum. It was too heavy for me. I felt like I was suffocating,

00:07:25.540 and I left halfway through, but I did get the meaning of it and the spirit of it.

00:07:32.180 There was a candor in that Hiroshima museum and memorial too. I didn't know until I went to the

00:07:38.260 museum that 20,000 of the people in Hiroshima who were killed by the atomic bomb, they were slaves.

00:07:47.780 Japan took slaves and brought them to Japan to work as industrial slaves. In this case,

00:07:56.900 20,000 Korean slaves were in Hiroshima and died from the bomb blasts. I just didn't know that,

00:08:02.660 but it reminds me, Japan was a brutal place before the war, and Japan did commit some atrocities.

00:08:11.060 Look at the rape of Nanking. I don't believe the revisionist history that's coming out that the

00:08:17.860 nuclear bomb was immoral or America was immoral for dropping it. If you listen to true historians

00:08:24.020 like Victor Davis Hanson, dropping the atom bomb not only saved an enormous number of American lives,

00:08:30.340 it's estimated that a million casualties would have been taken invading Japan. But it saved an enormous

00:08:38.020 number of Japanese lives too, given the absolute frenzied and fanatic commitment to fighting.

00:08:44.740 There probably would have been a million casualties on each side, probably many more on the Japanese

00:08:49.300 side. So I despise the revisionism. It's worth going to that museum if you find yourself in Japan.

00:08:55.860 My favorite thing about Japan, of course, was it was filled with Japanese people. I have to say,

00:09:01.300 I think they're superior people. And I don't think that's being racist to say, is it? But even in my

00:09:07.700 short visit there, I could see that was ending. And frankly, it made me a bit worried. I could see

00:09:13.460 immigration still modest. I could see that it was coming in quickly. And the thing about mass

00:09:18.660 immigration is the benefits of it are easy to count immediately, but the harms take a while to catch

00:09:25.700 up. The benefits, of course, accrued chiefly to corporations, cheap labor for employers, more tenants

00:09:32.420 for landlords, more cell phone contracts for phone companies, more bank accounts for banks. So yeah,

00:09:39.540 I mean, we see that in Canada. Who is loving immigration? Who's advertising to new immigrants?

00:09:46.180 All the industries I've just listed. Let me read to you a story from about a year ago,

00:09:53.220 talking about Japan's strategy. Let me read this to you. Japan is hoping to tackle a worsening

00:09:59.780 manpower shortage in its transportation industry by licensing up to 24,500 foreign taxi, bus and truck

00:10:08.740 drivers by fiscal year 2028. What a disastrous idea that is, not just from a safety point of view,

00:10:17.300 but from a crime point of view. And by the way, I was in Austin a couple of weeks ago. If you remember,

00:10:21.540 I went down to go on Alex Jones's show. I ordered an Uber and I didn't expect this. I didn't know this.

00:10:27.700 They sent me, it being Austin, a driverless car called a Waymo. It was a driverless taxi that came

00:10:35.300 to get me. I had never even seen one before, let alone being in one. And I was slightly skeptical

00:10:41.300 getting in, but it was completely safe, utterly clean. And I sort of loved it. And I guess I would say

00:10:48.420 to Japan, you don't need to bring in to 24,500 people who will bring with them a multitude of

00:10:56.100 problems. You can just use robots like they're using in Austin. The harms, of course, to mass

00:11:04.260 immigration being depressed wages, increased cost of living, and mainly, mainly, mainly a lack of

00:11:09.780 cultural fit, including the treatment of women. And if you think that that's bad in places like the UK

00:11:15.700 or Ireland, I just described for you for 10 minutes, the politeness and the respect inherent

00:11:22.100 in the Japanese culture. Imagine bringing in people from Somalia, from Afghanistan to a Japanese

00:11:29.860 culture. The outright crime waves we're seeing in Ireland and UK and Sweden. Imagine that transposed

00:11:36.260 into the high trust, high connected society of Japan. So I was ecstatic when I heard that Japan has just

00:11:46.100 elected a new prime minister focused on the issue of immigration. Her name is Sanae Takaichi. She also

00:11:53.380 happens to be the first woman prime minister. Normally, the left would go gaga over her, but she's the most

00:12:00.020 right wing prime minister on the issue of immigration. Here's the New York Times

00:12:03.060 story calling her a hardline conservative. Have you ever seen the New York Times called someone

00:12:08.740 a hardline leftist? I haven't. Let me read a little bit about their coverage. Ms. Takaichi has been a

00:12:15.300 prominent critic of China's efforts to expand military and economic influence, and she has called for

00:12:20.420 Japan to do more to strengthen its defense capabilities. She's also been a staunch supporter

00:12:25.140 of a return to Abenomics, a platform of low interest rates coupled with broad government spending.

00:12:30.740 During the campaign, she seized on a wave of anti-immigrant sentiment. She said that Japan

00:12:36.580 should create a, quote, command center to oversee issues related to foreigners. And she blamed tourists

00:12:42.500 for kicking the cherished deer in Nara, that's a city where she's from, and doing pull-ups on gates

00:12:49.700 outside sacred shrines. That is absolutely true what's going on. And it's disgraceful to see. And I'm glad

00:12:59.780 that she used those outrageous incidents by foreigners to win. I mean, it is so, I just told you how

00:13:10.740 respectful and politeful they are. Imagine someone coming from a low trust society and just saying,

00:13:15.860 I can do whatever I want here. Here, let me reach you from Japan Times.

00:13:21.540 We witness and hear about such stories every day, but Japanese people are extremely tolerant.

00:13:25.860 So everyone is swallowing their words, she said, adding that she will put an end to that by revising

00:13:31.620 immigration policies from scratch. For those who come to Japan with financial motives and claim that

00:13:37.300 they are refugees. I'll have you go home. I'll also have illegal immigrants strictly follow the law,

00:13:43.140 Takaichi said. And she appointed a hardline minister, also a woman. This is from the Japan

00:13:52.340 Times as well. Let me read. Onoda said she was looking to work closely with relevant government

00:13:58.900 agencies to enforce stricter measures against unruly foreign residents and to revive the country's

00:14:04.020 insufficient immigration policies. Quote, the current reality is that the people are facing,

00:14:08.660 feeling anxiety, dissatisfaction, or a sense of unfairness due to crimes, nuisances, and inappropriate

00:14:14.260 use of various systems by a small number of foreign nationals, Onoda said at a press news

00:14:19.380 conference Wednesday. This is the new cabinet minister. While we must not fall into xenophobia,

00:14:23.700 ensuring the safety and security of the public is essential for economic growth, she said. Now, by the

00:14:28.500 way, this new minister is born in Chicago, half American. So I think in Japan she'll have a lot of

00:14:33.620 credibility as a half-foreigner cracking down on foreigners. And let me show you what we're

00:14:39.220 talking about here. And I want to tell you, I mean, I think I'm sort of polite. I mean,

00:14:43.540 that could be a bit noisy and that could be a bit gruff. But I was so self-conscious in Japan

00:14:48.180 because everyone else was just being better behaved. They were being more respectful, more polite,

00:14:53.220 more gracious, more hospitable, more welcoming. And if you have good faith in you, you'll be touched by

00:15:00.340 that. You'll be moved by that. You'll look up to the Japanese people and maybe you'll come to love

00:15:04.500 them a little bit. There are certain things I like about our boisterous, noisy, cacophonous West. Of

00:15:10.740 course, I love it. I mean, I don't know if I would live in Japan. I don't know if I would be accepted

00:15:16.420 in Japan, but what an amazing place to visit. But take a look at this guy. He's a live streamer who goes

00:15:23.620 by the nickname Johnny Somali. He's a foreign troublemaker in a high trust society, a microcosm

00:15:31.380 of what we have here. He harasses people. He monsters them in Japan and Korea and other places. And I just

00:15:37.940 want you to just watch for a couple of minutes of what he does and realize why he goes to Japan to do

00:15:44.580 it. Because if he were to do that in, let's say, Dallas, Texas, or if he were to do that in the wrong

00:15:50.180 county in the United States, he would be shot. But he knows that the Japanese are deferential and

00:15:57.620 oh, my God, did he get away with things? Just take a look. Watch for a couple of minutes.

00:16:03.620 China. Japan. I hate Asians. I honestly, I think all Asians need to be exterminated.

00:16:09.060 Somebody please put this on the news tomorrow. Put this on the news. I want to start a race war.

00:16:12.020 China.

00:16:15.220 I don't know

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00:16:41.220 We have to go

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00:16:45.220 We're right

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00:16:53.220 He's calling somebody

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00:16:57.220 We gotta go

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00:17:01.220 He's calling somebody

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00:17:09.220 I'm sorry

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00:17:25.220 I'm sorry

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00:17:27.220 Okay

00:17:28.220 Why don't you go to soup here?

00:17:30.220 I ate here with show the other day

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00:17:34.220 We need to destroy your mental health

00:17:36.220 We need you either in jail or Africa

00:17:38.220 Hey girls

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00:18:05.220 I guess all monkeys aren't bad. Love you, Johnny.

00:18:08.940 I love you, Mosatsu.

00:18:15.900 It's Oppenheimer shit. It's Oppenheimer shit.

00:18:25.200 It's that Oppenheimer shit.

00:18:26.860 These guys are walking out the restaurant.

00:18:29.740 This is the Oppenheimer shit.

00:18:35.220 This is the Oppenheimer shit.

00:18:39.900 Bruh.

00:18:43.420 Oh my God.

00:18:48.140 Yo.

00:18:49.540 You gonna get me locked up, man.

00:18:52.800 Fuck.

00:18:53.960 It's fucking people here.

00:18:59.900 Yo, why is it not stopping?

00:19:01.840 Why is it not stopping?

00:19:02.920 Yo, they're all looking at me, bro.

00:19:07.740 They're all looking at me.

00:19:10.300 Oh my God.

00:19:12.300 What?

00:19:13.140 Don't tell me to be quiet.

00:19:14.460 What?

00:19:15.540 I'm gonna leave.

00:19:16.520 Don't touch me.

00:19:17.260 Yo, don't.

00:19:17.920 No, no, no.

00:19:18.400 You're not the police.

00:19:20.320 You're not the police.

00:19:21.280 Oh, you are not the police.

00:19:22.940 Whoa.

00:19:23.740 Whoa.

00:19:24.720 Whoa.

00:19:26.140 What?

00:19:26.600 What are you touching me for?

00:19:27.780 We're on video.

00:19:28.500 Video.

00:19:28.960 Okay.

00:19:29.740 Don't touch.

00:19:30.440 Okay.

00:19:31.100 Don't touch.

00:19:31.740 Don't touch me.

00:19:33.960 Okay.

00:19:34.740 Relax.

00:19:36.160 No.

00:19:36.780 Whoa.

00:19:38.120 Yo, what is going on, chat?

00:19:43.080 Yeah.

00:19:43.560 If you stay there, I won't do anything.

00:19:47.200 You won't.

00:19:47.600 Yeah, he was finally arrested and he's not doing that in Japan anymore.

00:19:51.400 I despise Johnny Somali, except for one reason.

00:19:54.220 One reason that I actually love him is that by making such an ass of himself, he helped get

00:20:00.280 the new prime minister of Japan elected and in its own way, maybe by being so atrocious and abominable, maybe this chain of events that has come from him has saved Japan.

00:20:12.440 Yeah, I recommend visiting Japan if you can precisely because they want to make it hard to visit.

00:20:20.040 Stay with us for more.

00:20:21.120 Hey, welcome back.

00:20:30.640 Let me do an impression.

00:20:31.800 I'm not going to do a funny voice or anything.

00:20:34.000 Just by the words I am about to use, tell me who I am pretending to be.

00:20:39.780 We are taking decisive action, transformational investments of a generational nature that will catalyze the economy.

00:20:50.680 If you guessed Mark Carney, you're right.

00:20:52.780 He's a master at a whole kind of duck speak, as George Orwell would say, a series of words that once you hear them and pay attention to them, you can't help but notice half of his words are these filler words that really don't mean any.

00:21:08.440 We're going to catalyze the economy with decisive action, with transformative investments of a generational leader, with decisive action.

00:21:17.160 If you think I'm kidding, take a listen to him.

00:21:19.220 Oh, here, if you cut through the clutter, you'll hear another important word.

00:21:22.980 It's just for you.

00:21:24.680 It's the word sacrifice.

00:21:26.120 Take a look.

00:21:28.080 I will always be straight about the challenges that we face and the choices that we must make.

00:21:34.540 And to be clear, we won't transform our economy easily or in a few months.

00:21:43.600 It will take some sacrifices and it will take some time.

00:21:49.260 I will.

00:21:49.520 Well, there you have it.

00:21:52.280 Some sacrifices and some time.

00:21:54.200 Certainly not for the government class, but for you, Canadian.

00:21:58.580 Joining us now to talk about that excerpt, which was from a larger speech last night.

00:22:03.240 It's our friend Franco Teresano of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:22:06.740 Now, that was a pretty short clip.

00:22:08.540 You could see he was using some of those buzzwords.

00:22:10.860 Franco, what was the official name given to his speech?

00:22:14.980 It wasn't a budget.

00:22:16.280 It was what was it actually?

00:22:19.760 Yeah, it was like a budget address.

00:22:22.120 Right.

00:22:22.460 So, like, let me get into the later details of the speech.

00:22:25.900 But let me just pick up on that clip because I'm so glad you played it.

00:22:30.000 Sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice for who?

00:22:32.700 You nailed it, Ezra.

00:22:33.800 Not for the political elites, right?

00:22:35.840 Not for the government bureaucrats, not for the multinational corporations taking buckets of taxpayer cash.

00:22:42.220 No, no, no, no, no, sacrifice for Canadians.

00:22:44.860 Well, you know, Ezra, let me tell you a little story.

00:22:46.980 When I moved out here to Mordor, a.k.a. Ottawa from Calgary,

00:22:50.880 I couldn't believe just how much of a bubble the political bureaucratic class in Ottawa live in.

00:22:57.180 Like newsflash for everyone on Parliament Hill,

00:23:00.860 Canadians have been struggling for many, many years.

00:23:04.620 Struggling with the cost of living crisis largely fueled by government taxes and money printing and borrowing.

00:23:11.520 OK, like Canadians all across the country are having a difficult time ever even dreaming of owning a home.

00:23:17.880 Or what about the young family who has no idea how they're going to afford groceries,

00:23:22.840 fueling up their cars to get to work or even baby formula?

00:23:26.320 Right.

00:23:26.580 Canadians have been struggling for a very long time.

00:23:29.000 How about these politicians prove that we're all in this together and they themselves sacrifice for a change?

00:23:35.140 You know, one of the things that strikes me whenever I listen to Mark Carney is he sounds like he's still acting as the chairman of Brookfield Asset Management.

00:23:45.600 So he says we are going to build a stronger economy.

00:23:48.820 And we I am I as prime minister, I'm going to go and visit other countries and I'm going to create economic opportunities as if he is still the generator of wealth,

00:24:00.160 which is, I presume, what he was supposed to be at Brookfield.

00:24:02.780 He says he and he alone through a secretive process will create these national projects.

00:24:09.680 One of his ministers said 10 of them have been approved, but actually none of them have been announced.

00:24:13.800 Like, I just I just think he believes in a centrally planned economy.

00:24:19.600 He doesn't believe in letting the oil patch have a run at things.

00:24:22.900 He it's I feel like I'm listening to an investor and he actually is that he still has 600 different stocks.

00:24:31.200 He holds.

00:24:32.560 I don't think he understands the role of a prime minister.

00:24:35.820 I think he thinks he's the chief investment officer or something, but it's not his money.

00:24:41.020 No, it's not his money.

00:24:42.380 Right.

00:24:42.580 And look, when these politicians are spending your money, not their own, you might as well just send them to the casino.

00:24:48.520 Right.

00:24:48.900 Like we're already seeing how, you know, over the years, corporate welfare has been such a disastrous deal for Canadian taxpayers.

00:24:55.860 But let me build on that here for a second.

00:24:57.840 Right.

00:24:58.160 Because like, number one, the government is not the solution.

00:25:01.700 The government is the problem.

00:25:04.000 Regulations, taxes, driving away investment.

00:25:06.420 I mean, like it is so hard to actually create a business and grow jobs here in Canada because of all these government regulations and taxes in place.

00:25:15.780 And, you know, Ezra, like, let's just call a spade a spade.

00:25:19.360 Right.

00:25:19.560 Essentially, for the last decade, the government has been trying to spin Canadians that it can create wealth at a thin air by spending other people's money.

00:25:27.720 Well, like, how has it worked out, folks?

00:25:29.640 Like, just ask yourself.

00:25:30.760 Right.

00:25:30.960 The government has been spending all time highs for a long time.

00:25:35.280 Well, is the economy doing better than it was 10 years ago?

00:25:38.560 Like, is your life better?

00:25:39.840 Is your life more affordable?

00:25:41.300 Are you even getting better services from the federal government?

00:25:44.100 I think most Canadians, Ezra, are going to agree with us.

00:25:47.260 And the answer to all of those questions is no.

00:25:49.940 So how about the government stop trying to spend money on every more money on everything forever and actually cut spending regulations and taxes and let job creators get to work?

00:25:59.500 You know, Franco, I saw some bad news.

00:26:01.700 You know, it's coming almost every day.

00:26:04.180 A small announcement from one auto parts manufacturer or another.

00:26:08.940 300 jobs here, potentially thousands there.

00:26:11.940 And it is dawning on me, and I say this very unhappily, that I do think Donald Trump is going to follow through on his plan, or you could call it a threat, to relocate the American auto industry south of the border.

00:26:26.740 And I think that the moment we might have had to dissuade him of that has passed.

00:26:34.000 I mean, I don't say this with a drop of glee.

00:26:37.400 I think that the auto sector is going to be shut down in Canada.

00:26:40.760 And it's because there's no electoral college votes in Windsor for Donald Trump.

00:26:47.960 And I don't think, I think that maybe we had some time to deal with it.

00:26:53.260 Carney's been PM for about, I don't know, 220 days.

00:26:56.500 And I think he's been tone deaf.

00:26:59.020 I think he's been prickling the Trump administration for personal reasons.

00:27:03.320 I am worried that the auto sector is going to be shut down.

00:27:07.240 What do you think?

00:27:08.340 Do you think, like, at the end of the day, they are going to go where they have to go to be able to sell into the U.S. market.

00:27:14.700 I just don't think the Canadian market is large enough to sustain those auto factories.

00:27:20.060 You know, Ezra, let's really just be honest with ourselves and everyone, right?

00:27:24.320 Like, we have, including the prime minister, so you, me, your audience, everyone listening, including the prime minister of Canada, have very little control over the White House does, regardless of what administration is in power.

00:27:37.680 What do we have control over?

00:27:39.820 Our own backyard in Canada.

00:27:42.360 That's what we have control over.

00:27:43.740 And, like, look, if you're a major investor trying to figure out where you want to park your money, like, is Canada really the place that you want to be with all the government's over-regulations?

00:27:55.360 Like, let's just talk about natural resource sector for a second, right?

00:27:58.560 Well, yeah, you have the no more pipelines law.

00:28:02.060 Excuse me, all these regulations are grossing me out.

00:28:04.880 You have the no more pipelines law.

00:28:06.280 You have the discriminatory tanker ban.

00:28:07.840 You have the industrial carbon tax.

00:28:09.360 You have the hidden carbon tax through fuel regulations, right?

00:28:12.400 You have the production cap on oil and gas.

00:28:15.600 Like, this is all the stuff that our government of Canada is imposing on Canadians.

00:28:20.320 So, like, look, as I said, we really don't have much control over what happens in Washington, D.C., but what we do have control over is what happens in Ottawa.

00:28:30.180 And it's Ottawa's policies that have been harming Canada's economy for years.

00:28:34.420 You know, by coincidence, Danielle Smith was in Parliament and appeared before a parliamentary committee and was asked questions and made statements.

00:28:45.200 And one of her comments was that something that is completely within Canada's control, that we don't need to bargain with the White House for, is getting oil to tidewater.

00:28:56.640 We're getting oil to the West Coast or the East Coast or theoretically to the Arctic Coast.

00:29:02.040 I don't think that would probably make sense.

00:29:04.460 It is by far our most valuable export.

00:29:08.240 People might think the auto sector is.

00:29:09.840 No.

00:29:10.420 Oil and gas is, like, quadruple the value of the auto sector.

00:29:13.840 And here, let me show a clip from Danielle Smith today showing that you don't need to sacrifice necessarily.

00:29:21.800 You don't need to enter this recession.

00:29:24.800 You just need to get over your stubborn opposition to Alberta oil and gas.

00:29:29.400 Take a look.

00:29:30.140 I'd like to unpack with the preambles.

00:29:32.000 And I'd like to start, Premier Smith, with a geopolitical view.

00:29:36.280 We've seen key allies from around the world repeatedly ask for Canadian energy.

00:29:40.120 And, you know, more recently, Taiwan has been asking for help in their circumstance.

00:29:47.200 And even India has said recently that Canada is not a reliable supplier yet.

00:29:51.980 Given this context, what level of interest or commitment do you see from around the Pacific Rim and other parts of the world?

00:29:58.080 And will you push the federal government to stand with these democratic partners to support the Canadian energy exports to them?

00:30:05.280 Thank you for the question.

00:30:07.120 The answer is a very high level of interest.

00:30:09.060 In fact, as an intergovernmental affairs minister and international affairs minister, I meet regularly with ambassadors.

00:30:15.760 And virtually every person I have met with has said, how can we get more reliable energy from Canada?

00:30:21.460 Right now, we do export through the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:30:25.600 When that began, everybody thought most of that product would go to the United States.

00:30:29.340 Instead, the majority of it is now going to Asia.

00:30:31.780 In addition, the way we get our product to Europe is it goes all the way down to the Gulf Coast, gets loaded on a tanker, and then gets sent to places like Poland and beyond.

00:30:40.960 And so we think that we should probably be trying to do more of our sales directly if we want to open new markets.

00:30:46.000 We think that there is capacity for another million barrel a day pipeline going to the West Coast, maybe another one going to Churchill or James Bay.

00:30:53.340 And we'd also like to see Quebec develop its substantial natural gas resources to be able to wean itself off American supply and also be able to support our partners in Europe as well.

00:31:05.340 Sort of obvious, not vague, pie in the sky comments, tangible, frankly, the Keystone XL pipeline could probably be restarted with the shortest notice of all of them, because they've actually built a fair bet, including the part that crosses over the border.

00:31:27.040 Franco, what a difference between the Premier of Alberta, who's ready to rock and Mark Carney, who says, hey, guys, I promise I'll double trade to other countries, just not with the things that they want, oil and gas.

00:31:39.580 Well, you know, Ezra, too, like, let's go back to the beginning of our conversation, because I think it fits in right after Premier Smith's comments.

00:31:46.280 Like, actually, the solution would actually mean less sacrifice for Canadians, right?

00:31:51.700 Government getting out of the way, repealing Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines Law, the discriminatory tanker ban on the West Coast, and just let job creators to build these major natural resource projects, right?

00:32:02.780 That would create thousands of jobs.

00:32:04.740 That's, you know, billions of dollars in extra government revenue that we could use to build more hospitals, to build more schools, to fix the potholes, to have room to lower taxes.

00:32:14.300 So, actually, the real solution here would actually mean less sacrifice from Canadians, more job creation, more wealth.

00:32:21.820 What it would mean, though, the real solution would mean sacrifice from government bureaucrats, right?

00:32:27.640 Less government bureaucrats to enforce all these different regulations and taxes, and it would have to actually take some honesty and some humbleness from the politicians to actually admit that the real problem is them, and they need to get out of the way.

00:32:41.580 Yeah, let me read a line from the CBC.

00:32:44.260 They're remarking on Mark Carney leaving Canada again for a week and a half.

00:32:48.280 He has traveled so much out of this country.

00:32:51.200 I suppose, I mean, he's always been a jet setter.

00:32:54.260 He was with the World Economic Forum.

00:32:55.800 He's with the United Nations.

00:32:56.980 He was based in London.

00:32:58.760 Here's a line from the CBC today.

00:33:00.360 Wednesday's address came as Carney is preparing to head on an overseas trip to attend two multinational summits in Southeast Asia that will begin on Friday.

00:33:10.160 I haven't really heard of actual jobs ever being created at a politician's summit.

00:33:17.940 A summit is for politicians to take photos with each other and hobnob and the exact kind of process stuff that Mark Carney loved.

00:33:26.920 You don't need to go to a summit in Southeast Asia to know that you should build oil pipelines in Canada.

00:33:34.980 And I don't know why they don't flip open the Keystone XL.

00:33:38.340 Right now, we know that's one thing that the Americans want to buy.

00:33:41.620 They approved it.

00:33:43.020 It was Joe Biden who killed it, but Trump said he's open to it.

00:33:47.340 You heard Danielle Smith talk about another pipeline.

00:33:50.020 You can fix the problems here.

00:33:52.060 You don't have to run away to a summit.

00:33:54.300 That's a politician's move.

00:33:55.900 That's not a job creator's move.

00:33:57.660 No, you don't have to fly around the world to remove the industrial carbon tax.

00:34:01.860 You don't have to fly around the world to get rid of the hidden carbon tax the government buried in fuel regulations.

00:34:06.800 Right.

00:34:07.060 You don't have to fly around the world to get rid of the ban on the sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035.

00:34:14.280 All of this stuff comes back to what we were saying earlier.

00:34:16.980 Right.

00:34:17.420 Control what you can control and what you can control are the government regulations and taxes.

00:34:22.400 And, you know, Ezra, we've been talking about natural resources.

00:34:25.120 Earlier, we were talking about auto manufacturing.

00:34:27.740 You know what else is going to hammer auto manufacturers in Canada?

00:34:31.020 The ban on the sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035.

00:34:34.620 Is that still in place?

00:34:36.500 So all Carney did was said he's going to delay it for a year, hold a 60-day consultation.

00:34:42.600 But Carney has not said he's repealing it.

00:34:44.680 You know, a lot of the stuff that Mark Carney always pushed, and there was a clip of him that we had the other day where he was just talking about so much baffle gab and no one understood what he said here.

00:34:58.600 Let me replay that clip.

00:34:59.660 I think you and I talked about it.

00:35:01.160 I just got to show this again.

00:35:02.940 Here is someone who is a BSer for living.

00:35:06.240 I'm not saying he's lying.

00:35:07.280 I'm just saying he's just this machine that pumps out, wow, wow, wow, just words and words, and soon you're hypnotized, and five minutes go by, and you say, what did he say?

00:35:18.300 Did he say something?

00:35:19.380 Here's a reminder of that really weird hypnotic statement he said.

00:35:24.420 Building that system, financial system for our grandkids.

00:35:27.460 Again, drawing on the intervention of the managing director and the secretary general earlier.

00:35:32.800 First thing we need is to recognize that we need to use scarce dollars to the maximum effect.

00:35:41.440 This isn't just about bigger volumes.

00:35:43.820 It's about using scarce public dollars to maximum effect.

00:35:47.980 And that is catalyzing financial instruments, using risk mitigation tools to better allocate risk between the public and private sector.

00:35:55.580 I will just refer for speed to the agenda of the private sector investment lab and what the World Bank has been doing on risk management.

00:36:02.380 The second point is crowding in institutional capital through originate-to-distribute models.

00:36:07.960 There's a lot of words there.

00:36:09.460 What it basically means is recycling the balance sheets of our international financial institutions.

00:36:15.580 So they are there catalyzing the new lending.

00:36:19.020 Once it matures, it's parked off to other holders that can hold it for the long term.

00:36:24.520 And it's all about action, new action at the MDBs.

00:36:28.600 The third point is strengthening the structures, processes, governance of the institutions, to put it into plain words.

00:36:36.800 The shareholders should be looking at key performance indicators that are directly tied, of course, to the sustainable development goals,

00:36:44.060 but also absolute volumes of capital that are moving.

00:36:48.680 And in some cases, it's not about lending.

00:36:52.180 It's actually about technical assistance.

00:36:53.920 It's making capital flow possible.

00:36:57.560 So all of those activities that catalyze in flows towards the SDGs.

00:37:02.240 I will reference the work that has been done and needs to be completed on a cross-border carbon market,

00:37:09.340 which could close one-third of the climate finance gap between now and 2035.

00:37:15.940 And I will also just associate myself with the framework that President Ramaphosa did outline for the G20,

00:37:26.760 which is more comprehensive than what I've just said.

00:37:29.460 Last point I'll make is that at the G7, there were a few instruments that were launched

00:37:35.480 that build on some of the general points that I just made.

00:37:39.200 Billions of dollars in new financing through the IADB and the Caribbean Development Bank

00:37:44.680 and a structure where a number of countries came together called SCALED,

00:37:50.780 which is scaling capital for sustainable development.

00:37:53.920 The point of this, it's measured in billions, but really the point is it's a template.

00:37:57.880 It's a template for putting in place those general points that I made.

00:38:02.100 It has, as its name suggests, an ability to scale.

00:38:05.220 And if I may close on this, Chair, there is an enormous gap.

00:38:10.480 We know that.

00:38:12.080 But the gap in terms of financial technology and the solutions has closed.

00:38:17.540 The question is whether we're going to deploy them and scale.

00:38:19.940 Thank you very much.

00:38:23.300 And I don't know.

00:38:25.360 I think that's what he did for a living.

00:38:28.640 And in a way, he's the opposite of Trump.

00:38:31.200 Trump is so blunt and so sharp and like he does things in a tweet.

00:38:36.640 But that's the thing.

00:38:37.580 He does it.

00:38:38.240 It's not just talk.

00:38:39.640 I'm really worried that Mark Carney is going to crater things.

00:38:43.120 Are you worried?

00:38:43.680 We've already been in a per capita recession for a long time.

00:38:47.680 That is, on average, we're each losing ground.

00:38:50.840 But because immigration is so high, it covers it.

00:38:53.420 Are you worried about some sort of deep recession or crash of some sort?

00:38:58.520 I don't understand what's going on with the housing markets.

00:39:01.440 I see things starting to tumble about a bit in Ontario.

00:39:06.320 Are we on the precipice of some bad, bad times, Franco?

00:39:10.740 You know, Ezra, that's a great question.

00:39:12.800 And I'll already just say, like, for many Canadians who are outside of the government sector,

00:39:16.680 who work in the productive sector, many have been going through really tough times for,

00:39:21.100 what, a decade now?

00:39:22.220 Right.

00:39:22.460 I can think of my home in Calgary.

00:39:24.840 Like, many people in Calgary have been really struggling since, what, like, 2015, 2014?

00:39:30.940 I know some stuff has started to improve, but we're talking about a long history of people

00:39:35.060 suffering who aren't shielded behind the golden gates of government.

00:39:39.040 Now, Ezra, kind of to go back to a lot of the word salads and nothing burgers that come

00:39:43.900 out of Carney's mouth.

00:39:44.860 I mean, another thing that he's doing, other than just adding filler, is he's using complexity

00:39:50.860 to try to confuse Canadians.

00:39:53.580 And, you know, there is no better proof point, like, him splitting out the budget until operating

00:39:59.160 spending and capital spending and promising to balance the operating budget.

00:40:03.280 Well, like, you're not balancing squat if you continue to borrow tens of billions of dollars

00:40:07.620 every single year.

00:40:08.640 But he's trying to use complexity to muddy the budget waters, and hopefully Canadians won't

00:40:14.060 notice that the debt is soaring.

00:40:15.760 Right?

00:40:15.900 So it's not just, it's not just word salads, it's not just complexity for complexity's sake.

00:40:20.880 I also worry that they're strategically using complexity to try to confuse Canadians on what's

00:40:26.480 going on.

00:40:27.400 Yeah.

00:40:27.940 I think the worst of it is all the economic, quote, good news in Canada over the last year

00:40:34.140 has come when it's juiced by taxpayer subsidies.

00:40:39.400 Whenever you hear good news, a factory's opening, or good news, electric vehicle batteries, it's

00:40:45.880 always government subsidies.

00:40:48.000 You know, I see that Evan Solomon, the new AI minister, as if Canada is ever going to be

00:40:52.940 a player in that game.

00:40:55.340 He's making new announcements about AI.

00:40:57.900 None of them are organic.

00:41:00.500 None of them are companies saying we really believe in the economy up here.

00:41:05.480 Contrast that to Trump, who has announced, if you believe him, $17 trillion worth of inbound

00:41:12.500 cash investments from countries all over the world.

00:41:15.960 And maybe he's overstating the case a bit, but I don't recall Trump having to say, we're

00:41:22.800 chipping in $100 billion to get Apple to set up new manufacturing in America.

00:41:29.240 Or like, he's not subsidizing these auto factories that are increasing.

00:41:34.880 He's, you know, he's using tariffs.

00:41:36.640 Sure.

00:41:37.780 Trump announces genuine economic growth.

00:41:41.260 Trudeau and Doug Ford announced subsidized.

00:41:45.000 And I'm not even going to call it growth, because as soon as the subsidy's gone, so is the project.

00:41:48.920 It's so heartbreaking.

00:41:50.100 I can't remember the last time Canadian business had a victory on its own.

00:41:55.120 Well, look, the only strategy, if you can call it that, from the government of Canada over

00:41:59.100 the last little while has just been corporate welfare.

00:42:00.880 Right.

00:42:01.680 And let me just add two other points, because number one, like, where are they getting that

00:42:06.200 money from?

00:42:07.000 Right.

00:42:07.280 That money doesn't fall from the sky.

00:42:08.860 That money is first taken out of the economy.

00:42:12.040 Right.

00:42:12.560 Taken from actual entrepreneurs with their own skin in the game who are providing services

00:42:16.460 and goods that consumers actually want to buy.

00:42:19.620 Right.

00:42:20.060 So the government is taking money from our small businesses, our businesses, and just individual

00:42:24.240 Canadians, and then giving buckets of cash to these multinational corporations.

00:42:28.040 So, like, number one, it's not like the government is creating prosperity.

00:42:32.500 Right.

00:42:32.640 At best, at best, it's a shell game.

00:42:35.320 But it's in all likelihood much worse than that.

00:42:38.520 But number two, Ezra, on juicing the economic numbers, well, guess what else juices the economic

00:42:43.940 numbers?

00:42:44.840 Government spending and government bureaucrats.

00:42:47.220 Right.

00:42:47.400 Like, we've talked about this so many times, like the government adding 100,000 extra bureaucrats

00:42:52.460 over a decade.

00:42:53.460 And that's just the federal government alone.

00:42:55.420 Right.

00:42:55.660 You can go to provincial governments, municipal governments, and there are massive bureaucracies

00:42:59.940 there.

00:43:00.200 Well, that also juices the economic numbers.

00:43:04.100 Yeah.

00:43:04.400 You know, I'm really worried about things.

00:43:06.160 By the way, I mentioned Evan Solomon.

00:43:08.060 He used to work at the Eurasia Group in New York City, along with Gerald Butts, along with

00:43:14.860 Mark Carney's wife.

00:43:15.920 And I'm worried that the same advisors who got us into all these troubling schemes with

00:43:21.980 wind power and subsidies are actually still the brains trust for Mark Carney.

00:43:26.760 I mean, it's the same mindset, the same government knows best, you know, managed economy, stakeholder

00:43:34.580 capitalism that the World Economic Forum is famous for.

00:43:37.660 In a way, I think it's actually qualitatively worse than under Trudeau.

00:43:41.840 I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

00:43:44.020 Franco Tarzanic, great to catch up with you.

00:43:45.960 And hopefully, hopefully we're wrong.

00:43:48.700 Hopefully things will get brighter.

00:43:50.780 But I really just don't see it.

00:43:52.480 I don't see why anyone would open a factory in Canada as opposed to America if they could.

00:43:59.280 And I don't say that with a trace of happiness.

00:44:02.960 I just think that everyone sees which way the two countries are going.

00:44:07.360 Last word to you, Franco.

00:44:09.040 Well, hey, Ezra, you know, one day I hope to come on your show and not be a total rain cloud,

00:44:13.080 right?

00:44:13.360 But look, the fight is not over, folks.

00:44:15.340 Don't feel too pessimistic.

00:44:17.380 I mean, we do have to keep pushing back.

00:44:19.580 Democracy is a participation sport.

00:44:21.860 And, you know, I hear some people say, I don't care about politics.

00:44:24.260 Well, you got to care, folks, because even if you don't care about politics, they sure

00:44:27.600 do care about your money and your wallet.

00:44:29.400 Yeah.

00:44:29.780 Well, thanks for keeping up the fight.

00:44:31.780 And we trust you because, like Rebel News, you take no government money and it shows.

00:44:37.200 Franco Tarzanic, keep it up.

00:44:39.000 Hey, thanks, Ezra.

00:44:40.040 All right.

00:44:40.700 Stay with us, folks.

00:44:42.120 Your letters to me next.

00:44:53.420 Hey, welcome back.

00:44:54.420 Your letters to me about my brief trip to Dublin, Ireland.

00:44:58.000 Bruce Atchison says about the migrants, they're freeloaders, as are freeloaders.

00:45:02.680 I know you're supposed to call these grifters migrants, as if there's some species of migratory

00:45:07.300 animals, but they're not.

00:45:08.340 They're freeloaders, pure and simple.

00:45:09.460 And shame on those who let these sheets into Ireland.

00:45:11.780 When I saw that hotel called City West, I didn't know what I was expecting.

00:45:17.540 It's not a hotel.

00:45:19.340 It's a resort.

00:45:20.620 It is a plaza, a campus, a compound.

00:45:23.060 It's as big as a small university.

00:45:26.200 Tree-lined streets and bike paths and walking paths and luxurious parks.

00:45:34.320 It is a five-star resort with all-inclusive meals.

00:45:40.140 You'd be crazy not to go there.

00:45:42.240 I'm just surprised more Irish aren't saying they're refugees just to get in on the good

00:45:47.060 stuff.

00:45:47.560 It was unbelievably luxurious.

00:45:50.560 Next letter from Mark Riminoski, 719, who says, a big thanks to Ezra for putting his safety

00:45:57.720 in jeopardy on behalf of the Irish.

00:46:00.040 Top man.

00:46:01.100 You know what?

00:46:01.700 I suppose I should have been more careful, but I've always been surrounded by so many

00:46:06.500 supportive friends and viewers when I go to Ireland.

00:46:09.940 But someone ran.

00:46:10.880 I mean, I'm not complaining about the pepper spray.

00:46:12.900 In retrospect, I think perhaps I was pepper sprayed on purpose because I know that two other

00:46:17.960 journalists were from GB News and a Spanish diplomat, a journalist rather.

00:46:22.720 And all three of us were sort of conspicuously journalists.

00:46:25.120 We weren't rioting, we weren't throwing anything.

00:46:27.400 So I think that the guardee, as the police there are called, actually deliberately did

00:46:31.940 spray us because they didn't want us recording what they were doing.

00:46:34.800 But I'm not particularly mad.

00:46:36.180 I mean, you go to cover a riot, you know, it's not unforeseeable.

00:46:40.340 You might get spritzed a bit.

00:46:42.280 But whoever it was that ran up behind me and sucker punched me and knocked me down, that's

00:46:47.120 odious.

00:46:47.620 But look, it's going to take a lot more than that to stop me.

00:46:50.180 And, you know, we do send bodyguards out with our people.

00:46:53.180 We had five bodyguards accompany Alexa a couple of weeks ago.

00:46:57.260 I don't think I need five, but I'm not going to stop reporting on what's going on in Ireland

00:47:01.380 just because some thug hits me.

00:47:03.340 In fact, that sort of proves my point, don't you think?

00:47:05.520 My videos that I did over there have received millions of views.

00:47:09.760 In fact, even my scene setter where I said, here's why I'm going over 600 plus thousand

00:47:14.420 views on YouTube, over a million on Twitter.

00:47:16.360 Just that one video.

00:47:17.820 And I don't know, I've probably done five or six videos from there.

00:47:20.320 I checked the statistics, an enormous number of people watching the video are from Ireland

00:47:27.000 itself, which tells me they really want the other side of the story and they don't trust

00:47:30.740 their own media.

00:47:31.920 Lots of viewers from the United Kingdom who care about Ireland.

00:47:35.020 There's a lot of Irish people still in the UK.

00:47:37.560 And of course, Americans and Canadians and Australians.

00:47:40.100 So people around the world are watching this story.

00:47:42.480 I was delighted to be there and I'm glad to be back.

00:47:44.520 But I'll be back in Ireland again.

00:47:46.060 Well, that's our show for today.

00:47:49.180 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:47:52.820 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - October 23, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Japan elects first woman — a hardline conservative — as prime minister

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