Rebel News Podcast - May 20, 2022


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Jason Kenney squeaks through a leadership review, but announces he’s resigning


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Jason Kenney resigns as the Prime Minister of Alberta, but not before he becomes the most hated politician in Canada. Ezra Levenant tells the story of how the hero of the Conservative Party of Canada became its most hated member.

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00:00:00.260 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through the big news of last night, Jason Kenney resigning
00:00:04.900 as the Premier of Alberta, although there's an asterisk there. He hasn't actually resigned yet.
00:00:09.780 He just said he will maybe sometime in the future. But we'll go over how it happened,
00:00:15.000 how the hero of the Conservative Party of Canada became its most hated member. That's quite a story.
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00:00:52.020 Here's the podcast.
00:00:57.740 Tonight, Jason Kenney squeaks through a leadership review, but announces he's
00:01:12.920 resigning anyways. We'll give you the latest. It's May 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:17.700 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:23.700 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:27.760 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:32.640 right to do so.
00:01:33.620 I think one of the reasons why billionaires get so weird, Bill Gates being a super gross
00:01:44.460 example, is that they are surrounded by flatterers, people who only want to tell them good news.
00:01:52.300 It's why Bill Gates kept visiting Jeffrey Epstein, the child sex trafficker long after Epstein was
00:01:58.680 convicted. I don't think anyone around Bill Gates had the courage or the independence to tell Gates
00:02:04.720 that what he was doing was deeply wrong, morally wrong, and most likely criminal. The only person
00:02:11.180 near Gates who had the power or independence to speak up to him was his wife. And of course,
00:02:18.440 she couldn't convince him to stop meeting the child rapist, so she divorced him over it.
00:02:23.400 You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact
00:02:29.420 with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you. Did that play a role
00:02:34.560 in the divorce at all in this process?
00:02:37.720 Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing. It was many things. But I did not like that he'd had meetings
00:02:44.800 with Jeffrey Epstein, no.
00:02:47.220 And you made that clear to him?
00:02:48.820 I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.
00:02:54.160 Did you?
00:02:54.700 Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was. And I regretted it from the second I stepped
00:03:01.660 in the door. He was abhorrent. He was evil, personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards.
00:03:08.760 So, you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt. And here I'm an
00:03:13.860 older woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful. 0.99
00:03:17.500 You felt that the moment you walked in?
00:03:19.200 I didn't realize that.
00:03:20.020 He was awful.
00:03:20.320 Yeah. And you shared that with Bill and he still continued to spend time with him?
00:03:25.440 Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was, those are for Bill
00:03:30.740 to answer.
00:03:31.420 Okay.
00:03:31.860 But I made it very clear how I felt about him.
00:03:34.760 Everyone else was afraid of Bill Gates, afraid of what he'd do if you told him something he didn't
00:03:40.820 want to hear. I mean, put aside his well-rehearsed, all-of-shucks routine, his total lack of human
00:03:47.480 emotion tells us he's probably a sociopath who has a God complex and will do whatever he
00:03:53.260 wants, whenever he wants, to whomever he wants.
00:03:57.440 Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking at this?
00:04:03.240 Well, he's dead. So, uh, you know, in general, you always have to be careful. Uh, and you
00:04:12.060 know, the, you know, I'm, I'm very proud of what we've done in philanthropy, very proud
00:04:17.480 of the work of the foundation. Uh, you know, that's, that's what I get up every day and focus
00:04:24.380 on.
00:04:24.660 Uh, well, he's dead now. I'm surprised he didn't do a little fake laugh there. Uh, I
00:04:32.840 think Elon Musk seeks out people who challenge him and debate him. At least it seems that
00:04:38.760 way, talking about billionaires. I can't imagine, for example, Bill Gates going on Joe Rogan's
00:04:44.000 podcast for three unscripted hours. No way. There's no escape. There's just answering questions
00:04:50.420 with no panic button. Musk did it. He loved it. I think some other billionaires do that
00:04:56.640 sort of thing too. Uh, I love the job interview question that the Silicon Valley billionaire
00:05:02.520 and libertarian Peter Thiel uses. Uh, we sometimes use that job interview question here too. You
00:05:09.260 know, the one, I think the other core tenant of the book is really, what do you believe that
00:05:15.340 is true that nobody else believes to be true? I guess. Is that the right way to say it?
00:05:21.560 Yes. Yes. It's always, it's always a combination of contrarian and true. You know, people always
00:05:26.840 characterize me as contrarian. I think that's, that's misleading. You know, one plus one equals
00:05:31.860 three. That's a contrarian belief. It's not interesting, untrue, won't get you anywhere.
00:05:37.400 Right.
00:05:37.640 So it's always important for it to be something unconventional. No one's thought of, but that
00:05:42.000 also, uh, has, you know, either is intellectually true or has some merit to it in the business
00:05:47.080 context. Now, Bill Gates is a good investor, I suppose, but really he had one success in life,
00:05:52.940 Microsoft, which engaged in monopolistic behavior to shut out its rivals. I'm not sure if Gates has
00:06:00.460 had another success since then, but when you're sitting on a hundred billion dollars, you really
00:06:05.420 don't need a second act and you certainly don't need to have to listen to anyone else. I think
00:06:12.380 that's the difference between Gates and Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and some others who are clearly
00:06:17.460 engaged in ongoing intellectual battles. They're not just coasting. I think that's what it's like
00:06:24.840 for billionaires. Think of them as the center of a bullseye and there are rings of people trying to get
00:06:31.260 to them, but it's hard. Everyone wants to get to them. You have to have a connection. You have to
00:06:35.980 be vetted. You have to make it through a bodyguard of schedulers and assistants and actual bodyguards.
00:06:42.260 And once you finally do, you're so grateful for the moment in the sun with them that you want to
00:06:47.960 get them to agree with you, which is why you sort of agree with them. Um, which when you think about
00:06:54.120 it is analogous to being a powerful politician, it's not about money then, but about political
00:07:01.220 power, but you're surrounded by flatterers. Everyone wants your favor. Everyone wants your 1.00
00:07:07.360 time. Everyone is a flatterer because they want something from you. And the difference is that
00:07:13.200 politicians by definition can have their power taken away by rival politicians in a thunderclap
00:07:21.300 moment in an election. You can have two billionaires in the same city, but you can't
00:07:26.980 have two mayors in the same city. So politicians can make coalitions and alliances. But at the end
00:07:33.500 of the day, I bet the average politician is a bit more paranoid and more suspicious of people
00:07:38.000 than the average rich guy. Just speculating here. I mean, when you think about it, there's a finite
00:07:43.680 amount of power. If you gain power, someone else loses it. Money is not that way. Both people
00:07:49.920 in a relationship can get rich. And all of this is my long-winded way, my attempt to understand
00:07:57.340 what the heck happened to Jason Kenney, who short years ago left parliament where he had been a
00:08:05.780 star cabinet minister under Stephen Harper, where Kenney had been, in fact, and in perception,
00:08:12.700 a strong conservative in most things except his open borders immigration, actually.
00:08:17.080 Where he had at least a respect for populist conservatism, where he certainly expressed
00:08:22.340 support for religious freedom, the skepticism of big government. And in the early months of the
00:08:28.280 pandemic as premier, that was his approach. And it must have been hard. The entire world and certainly
00:08:35.340 the entire public health deep state, all the media, all the so-called public health officers,
00:08:39.820 the United Nations, World Health Organization, everything, everyone, all saying mask laws and 0.76
00:08:46.100 lockdowns and bans on gatherings and closed schools and closed churches and closed playgrounds,
00:08:53.240 none of which had ever been tried before. None of which had been proven in an experiment to be useful.
00:09:00.160 None of which could pass any sort of civil liberties test. And he held out for a while.
00:09:05.160 But then when he finally collapsed, he went more abusive than almost anyone else in Canada.
00:09:10.480 I'll never forget when he issued anti-gathering orders and he had special punitive sections for
00:09:17.980 churches, including funerals, where churches had lower gathering limits than liquor stores or
00:09:25.180 Costco. Churches were singled out. And as he abandoned any pretense of caring about civil liberties or even
00:09:32.160 science, his language started to track the attack language of Justin Trudeau and Teresa Tam.
00:09:38.680 He started denouncing small business people who wanted to stay open. He started denouncing churches
00:09:45.140 and pastors who not only wanted to exercise their freedom of religion and freedom of association,
00:09:51.180 freedom of assembly, but were critical to helping congregants who had mental stress and anxiety and
00:09:58.760 depression and worse because of the lockdowns. Jason Kenney became so abusive and punitive.
00:10:04.320 It truly was that old, dark joke. The beatings will continue until the morale improves. But
00:10:09.740 that's my point about no one being able to tell the emperor that he has no clothes, that he was naked.
00:10:17.860 People missed, sorry, people mislead billionaires. People mislead dictators for the same reason.
00:10:24.960 There is no one tasked with opposing them and embarrassing them and causing them to rethink
00:10:31.020 things. The old king said jesters for that purpose. Who did Jason Kenney have? He started
00:10:37.060 to believe what he heard. He started to believe what he said. Ralph Klein called that dome syndrome for
00:10:42.320 the dome of the legislature. Preston Manning called that being auto-washed. There were things that
00:10:47.940 happened that if they had happened under the leadership of Justin Trudeau or Rachel Notley as premier,
00:10:53.240 Jason Kenney would have known they were wrong and would have said so. Police brutality against kids
00:10:59.160 on an outdoor skating rink. Police invading a church during church services. That's insane.
00:11:11.060 Please get out. Get out of this property. Immediately get out. Get out of this property. Immediately. Out. I 0.66
00:11:19.400 don't want to hear anything out of this property. Immediately. I don't want to hear a word. Out. Out. Out. Out of this property. Immediately until you come back with a warrant. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out of this property. Immediately out.
00:11:41.400 Out. Out. Out. Out. Out.
00:12:11.400 Out. Out. Out. Out.
00:12:41.400 Out. Out. Out. v honor. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. host.
00:12:45.300 Out. Out. out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out.
00:12:49.460 Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out.
00:12:53.260 But a confrontation which led to an assault took place as a direct result of that collision.
00:13:01.460 And that was an assault on an RCMP officer?
00:13:04.200 No, that was an assault between the two civilians, between a protester and a civilian.
00:13:09.140 So Jason Kenney's statement was not true at the press release?
00:13:15.240 I can tell you what I just told you.
00:13:17.380 Kenney started calling his own citizens, his own party members, extremists.
00:13:21.120 Premier Jason Kenney says he won't apologize for his comments in a leaked recording,
00:13:26.020 calling members of his political party lunatics.
00:13:29.500 With a vote coming soon on his own leadership,
00:13:31.700 Kenney says the UCP is under siege by extremist elements seeking a hostile takeover.
00:13:37.840 Kenney said he was done with conservatives.
00:13:39.560 He wanted to keep the party, but change the members.
00:13:41.900 He wanted a new party base.
00:13:44.100 Well, I guess now he's got the chance, doesn't he?
00:13:46.940 It really feels like something Marie Antoinette would say.
00:13:51.840 Your Highness, the citizens are revolting.
00:13:54.180 They most certainly are.
00:13:56.900 The worst to me, of course, was the targeting of Pastor Arthur Pawlowski.
00:14:00.780 Again and again, endless arrests on trumped up charges.
00:14:04.400 More than 50 days in prison.
00:14:05.660 Exactly the kind of stuff Kenney railed against when he was a federal cabinet minister.
00:14:10.680 And he was talking about China.
00:14:13.920 We put up a lot of billboards about that in Alberta.
00:14:16.820 Thousands of people were deeply concerned.
00:14:19.080 You know, I had a phone call last year from a very senior conservative, I won't say who.
00:14:25.060 You'd know the name immediately.
00:14:26.620 Who said, Ezra, you and Rebel News have to stop criticizing Jason Kenney.
00:14:30.660 You're going to lose the election for him.
00:14:32.560 You're going to hand the province back to the NDP.
00:14:35.800 We must stop that.
00:14:36.920 I saw her point a bit.
00:14:39.640 We were covering issues that most of the media weren't.
00:14:42.240 The legacy media hated those Christian pastors.
00:14:44.580 If they covered their arrests at all, their prosecutions at all, it was to cheer on the government.
00:14:49.100 Most of the media in Alberta was pressing Kenney from the left.
00:14:52.780 And what do they care?
00:14:54.960 If they could get Kenney to attack Christians and lockdown skeptics, that's a win-win-win for them. 0.99
00:15:01.260 And the media activists on the left punished Christians and locked down skeptics.
00:15:06.320 But Kenney paid the political price for it.
00:15:09.120 It was not like that that would win over NDP voters to Kenney.
00:15:13.620 He had both sides of the spectrum hating him.
00:15:17.760 He knew he was in trouble, but like I say, he never knew the true extent.
00:15:21.460 He had too many flatterers around him, I think. 1.00
00:15:23.880 His rival from the last leadership race, Brian Jean, ran in a by-election, expressly to get rid of Kenny.
00:15:32.320 Kenny was sure that his own loyalist candidate could beat Brian Jean in the nomination.
00:15:37.960 No chance.
00:15:39.500 And even yesterday, Kenny was sure he would crush the party's revolt against him.
00:15:44.400 He certainly seemed to rig the rules to it, switching in the last minute from in-person voting to mail-in voting,
00:15:51.020 which he thought could game the system.
00:15:53.360 Well, I guess he did in the way.
00:15:55.900 51% is a win.
00:15:57.740 And in the end, though, he knew it wasn't enough.
00:16:02.920 While 51% of the vote passes the constitutional threshold of a majority,
00:16:09.260 it clearly is not adequate support to continue on as leader.
00:16:12.800 And that is why tonight I have informed the president of the party of my intention
00:16:17.880 to step down as leader of the United Conservative Party.
00:16:23.260 I'm sorry, but, friends, I truly believe that we need to move forward united.
00:16:28.680 We need to put the past behind us.
00:16:30.840 And our members, a large number of our members, have asked for an opportunity
00:16:33.860 to clear the air through a leadership election.
00:16:36.620 And I've recommended, therefore, that the provincial board schedule a leadership election in a timely fashion.
00:16:43.660 Did you see the faces on Sheila and Adam when Kenny said he was resigning?
00:16:47.640 Well, he's not actually gone yet, is he?
00:16:49.940 Still premier, still leader of the party.
00:16:51.440 And I don't know if he's formally ruled out running again.
00:16:54.700 But I think, like Andrew Scheer and Aaron O'Toole,
00:16:58.540 Kenny will be shoved out of the way if he doesn't go quickly and quietly enough.
00:17:02.460 Already people are popping up saying they want the job.
00:17:05.960 Daniel Smith wants back in.
00:17:08.260 Brian Jean, obviously.
00:17:09.520 I hope it's a good rollicking leadership campaign with clear ideological contrasts,
00:17:14.760 just like the federal Conservative Party leadership is turning into.
00:17:18.720 It's important that a strong leader be chosen, one without poisonous baggage.
00:17:23.520 It was Kenny that was hated, not the UCP party, Brian.
00:17:28.700 Rachel Notley really did stand a chance with Kenny at the helm.
00:17:31.940 But put someone normal and conservative and less arrogant and more freedom-oriented in
00:17:36.480 that leadership chair, and the NDP will probably be relegated back to their historical place
00:17:41.900 on the fringe.
00:17:43.200 I'm excited by it.
00:17:44.480 In the same way I was excited when the truckers caused the Conservative Party to give Aaron O'Toole
00:17:49.560 the heave-ho.
00:17:50.540 And in a way, the truckers did here too.
00:17:52.900 The truckers and the pastors.
00:17:54.900 I mentioned that Kenny hadn't been, if he hadn't been a punitive bully towards businesses and
00:18:03.480 churches, if he had been calmer, if he had been a lighter touch, more like Ron DeSantis,
00:18:10.840 or forget about that, just stopped picking on people, stopped insulting people, conservative
00:18:16.140 businesses or conservative churches.
00:18:17.760 If he just hadn't jailed people and prosecuted them so punitively and insulted them, if he
00:18:23.720 had just shut up, really, and had a lighter touch, I think yesterday he would have had
00:18:30.440 at least 10% more in the polls.
00:18:33.840 How could he not have?
00:18:35.060 At least 10% of the Conservative Party cares about freedom, especially religious freedom,
00:18:41.080 at least 10%, especially Jason Kenney fans who thought he was a friend of Christians.
00:18:45.980 But he just couldn't help himself in the end.
00:18:47.800 I don't know why.
00:18:49.460 And now he's gone, and I think that's karma.
00:18:52.680 And to my old Conservative friend who called me up begging me to stop reporting on what we
00:18:57.180 reported, I would say, the party can fix itself now before the election, and so can the
00:19:03.520 province, and that will keep the NDP out of power. 0.99
00:19:06.040 Not Rebel News lying about the great disappointment that was Jason Kenney's Alberta career.
00:19:12.980 Stay with us for more about some great undercover journalism by our friends at Project Veritas.
00:19:23.720 Well, when Elon Musk announced his intention to take over the social media platform Twitter,
00:19:30.160 well, you didn't think it would happen easily, would you?
00:19:32.580 Because it is not actually a business.
00:19:35.320 It is a censorship machine where the entire world's political conversation is put through
00:19:41.380 filters, political filters.
00:19:44.380 Who wouldn't want to control that?
00:19:46.920 Elon Musk has been debating with Twitter over, for example, how many of its users are actually
00:19:53.280 robots.
00:19:54.540 He's debating with them over freedom.
00:19:56.640 It's quite something to watch the world's richest man debate with the company it's looking to
00:20:01.940 take over in real time.
00:20:03.980 Well, while Elon Musk was working on his business proposal, Project Veritas was sending undercover
00:20:11.020 reporters to meet with Twitter executives undercover to see what they would say when they weren't
00:20:19.060 on their best behavior.
00:20:20.240 Were Elon Musk's accusations of political bias and censorship, were they valid?
00:20:26.660 Joining us now to talk about it is Mario Balaban, the media relations manager for Project Veritas.
00:20:32.820 Mario, thanks so much for joining us.
00:20:34.520 You guys must be so busy.
00:20:36.300 These are amazing videos.
00:20:38.580 Just tell us for one minute.
00:20:39.880 We haven't had Project Veritas on recently.
00:20:42.400 Tell me a little bit about your style of reporting.
00:20:45.320 Yeah, no, thank you for having me on.
00:20:47.900 First of all, Ezra, as you're familiar with, Project Veritas, we're an undercover journalist
00:20:52.200 organization.
00:20:53.740 We rely most, our journalism relies upon mostly, as you noted, undercover journalists approaching
00:20:59.300 people in power, in this case Twitter, and obtaining the truth from them when they
00:21:04.640 otherwise would not admit to the public.
00:21:07.380 A lot of them will give you an official company line statement if you ask them for a comment,
00:21:12.360 you know, as a reporter for an outlet.
00:21:14.540 But if they don't think they're talking to a journalist, they're willing to admit things
00:21:17.820 that otherwise they wouldn't.
00:21:19.860 So we rely on, our journalism is basically founded upon that, as well as whistleblowers
00:21:24.660 who come to us with documents or internal things when they, you know, see wrongdoing within
00:21:29.500 their own company.
00:21:31.820 They'll come to Project Veritas as well to blow the whistle and get the truth out that
00:21:35.780 way as well.
00:21:36.600 Just an outstanding team.
00:21:38.140 The courage and the sang-froid, if I can use a word, just staying cool in those moments.
00:21:43.300 It really is.
00:21:44.140 I mean, we've all watched TV movies about undercover cops and how stressful it must be
00:21:49.600 to know that you're meeting with the bad guy, so to speak.
00:21:53.840 In this case, you're not necessarily calling them the bad guy, but they are people of public
00:21:57.680 interest.
00:21:58.320 And to hear the difference between what they say and what they do is quite something.
00:22:02.140 I salute your team.
00:22:04.000 Without further ado, let's go to the two videos you've released.
00:22:07.520 Why don't you set up the first one for us a little bit and then we'll watch it.
00:22:10.420 Tell us what we're about to see.
00:22:12.500 Yeah.
00:22:12.720 So this is a Twitter engineer, a senior engineer, Siru Morigason.
00:22:18.260 He was recorded here admitting that the company, his colleagues are commies F. 0.98
00:22:23.320 They don't believe in free speech and Elon does believe in free speech.
00:22:26.520 He even admits that he thinks Elon probably wants to do what's best for the company.
00:22:30.040 He actually wants to make a profit there.
00:22:31.660 And the interesting thing is, Siru admits that he only works four hours a week.
00:22:37.400 Think about someone who admits he works four hours a week and Elon's tweeting about work
00:22:41.380 ethic.
00:22:42.040 Yeah.
00:22:42.360 And this guy's talking about like, oh yeah, we're all about a mental health here, actually.
00:22:46.600 The profit thing, you know, it's like that comes after.
00:22:50.120 It's incredible.
00:22:51.100 You know what?
00:22:52.120 I tell you, if I was working four hours a week, I would call that vacation, but I don't
00:22:55.760 think it would be good for my mental health because I like to work.
00:22:57.940 It's quite something.
00:22:59.020 Enough preamble.
00:22:59.940 Let's look at the video.
00:23:01.060 Just incredible undercover vid from Project Veritas.
00:23:04.140 Take a look.
00:23:06.040 Twitter does not believe in free speech.
00:23:08.740 We don't believe in free speech.
00:23:10.740 Capitalists.
00:23:11.300 We weren't really operating on capital smart.
00:23:14.020 We were very socialists.
00:23:15.240 We're all like, call me a s***.
00:23:18.440 Ideologically, it does not make sense because we're actually sent to the right, not to the
00:23:23.680 left.
00:23:24.400 So if everyone on the right wing will be like, bro, it's okay to say.
00:23:27.660 You just got to tolerate it.
00:23:29.580 The left would be like, no, I'm not going to tolerate it.
00:23:32.460 I need a sensor.
00:23:34.780 Or else I'm not going to be in the country.
00:23:36.360 So it does look right.
00:23:38.500 It's true.
00:23:39.420 There is bias.
00:23:40.700 I don't know if the two parties can truly coexist on one platform.
00:23:44.760 What do your colleagues say about Michael?
00:23:47.080 They hate it.
00:23:48.080 Oh my God.
00:23:48.540 I'm at least like okay with it.
00:23:50.140 But some of my colleagues are like super left, left, left, left.
00:23:55.000 What do they say?
00:23:56.140 They're like, this is going to be my last day, but it happens.
00:23:59.860 Has much changed since like Elon's coming out?
00:24:03.760 A lot of change.
00:24:05.540 A lot of change.
00:24:06.840 We're all like worried for a job.
00:24:09.980 Why are you guys so worried?
00:24:12.140 You know, a job is just like, he's a nice person.
00:24:14.180 I still think I'm not supposed to be careful.
00:24:16.200 I think it's just like the environment.
00:24:17.780 Like you're there and you become like the same.
00:24:20.780 You don't know.
00:24:21.480 We did all we care to like revolt against it.
00:24:24.420 A lot of employees revolted against it.
00:24:27.740 But at the end of the day, board of directors have a say.
00:24:30.620 And then they acted on their best interest.
00:24:34.780 Because they didn't want to get sued.
00:24:35.900 Basically, we went out of work like four hours a week for the last quarter.
00:24:38.840 One hour.
00:24:39.340 It's just how it works for our company.
00:24:41.860 Yeah.
00:24:42.360 How would you describe plumbing as inside Twitter?
00:24:44.740 Essentially.
00:24:45.180 Like, everyone gets to do that with a lot of people.
00:24:47.360 Like, no one really cares about, like, OPEX, like, capitalists who care about how to work.
00:24:52.960 They care about how to make a business sort of efficient.
00:24:55.960 But in Twitter, it's like, mental health is everything.
00:24:59.460 Like, if you're not feeling it, you can take a few days off.
00:25:02.560 People take a few months off.
00:25:03.860 They'll come back.
00:25:04.980 But you always, like, do your best at any time.
00:25:08.840 And that's culture.
00:25:10.300 And, you know, we run the business pretty much as possible.
00:25:14.980 Capitalists would be like, you've got to get paid profits all year round.
00:25:19.700 A lot of people are so high.
00:25:21.440 Oh, my God.
00:25:24.080 Months off.
00:25:25.380 Just because you weren't feeling it.
00:25:27.260 Just months off.
00:25:29.580 Unbelievable.
00:25:30.740 You know what?
00:25:31.580 I think he was speaking the truth there.
00:25:33.540 And he was making backhanded compliments to Elon Musk.
00:25:37.840 And I don't know.
00:25:38.800 I believe every word of what that guy said.
00:25:41.320 I think that absolutely is what's going on inside Twitter.
00:25:45.060 I mean, it seems to me he's very genuine there.
00:25:48.220 He was, you know, he was speaking with knowledge.
00:25:51.260 He's been there for years, by the way.
00:25:52.440 He's not a new employee.
00:25:53.820 He's a senior engineer.
00:25:54.620 He's probably making good money to be working only four hours a week.
00:25:58.600 But it's shocking.
00:25:59.980 I mean, he touched upon all these different stuff.
00:26:01.480 There's censorship and the bias, the free speech aspect, the internal revolt against Elon Musk, the political ideology inside Twitter.
00:26:09.740 And then the work ethic inside Twitter.
00:26:12.220 It's unbelievable.
00:26:12.900 I mean, what else could we what other information could this guy give us?
00:26:15.960 I think he told us everything.
00:26:17.500 Yeah.
00:26:18.020 You know, and I wouldn't even say he sounds like a bad guy.
00:26:21.520 I mean, he says, I came here and they sort of turned me into a commie.
00:26:25.080 Everyone like it was like he was describing his, you know, how he was absorbed into the political culture there.
00:26:34.020 I don't even think he's a bad guy.
00:26:35.880 I think he's a guy who thought he was going to work in a free speech oriented social media company and realized he was sort of more going into a commune and a spa.
00:26:45.920 I don't know.
00:26:46.980 I mean, it's if he is complaining about how left others are, it's got to be shocking.
00:26:52.500 This next one, though, this next video is a work of art.
00:26:56.940 It's a work of journalism.
00:26:57.900 It's a work of obvious planning to get this guy.
00:27:01.660 But at the end, when he talks about Project Veritas, it the layers of irony, I'm surprised the Internet didn't break.
00:27:10.660 Give us one minute to set this up and then we'll watch this absolute masterpiece of the video.
00:27:15.980 Yeah.
00:27:16.300 So this is Alex Martinez here, a senior executive in the ads sales team at Twitter.
00:27:21.680 He also, you know, is recorded undercover by one of our journalists.
00:27:25.120 And he also talks about Elon Musk, the free speech issue.
00:27:27.880 He thinks that Twitter should be the arbiter of truth.
00:27:30.280 They know better for you.
00:27:31.340 You don't know what's good for you.
00:27:33.220 Twitter does.
00:27:34.140 They know better for you.
00:27:35.860 He also makes fun of Elon Musk's Asperger's and talks about that mockingly.
00:27:42.540 Speaks about free speech issues, the profitability issue at Twitter, saying that they're not profitable because of ideology.
00:27:49.220 And as you noted, he showed our journalist an internal email at Twitter warning Twitter employees to be cautious about Project Veritas.
00:28:00.560 And he showed that email to our journalists, so it couldn't get any better than that.
00:28:06.840 This is probably the single funnest video I've seen in 2022.
00:28:13.660 Here, take a look.
00:28:15.680 Well, right now we don't make profit, so it's going to say ideology, which is what's led us to not be profitable.
00:28:21.140 The rest of us who have been here believe in something that's good for the planet and not just to keep people free speech.
00:28:31.980 Because, again, these people really do believe in what we're doing.
00:28:35.020 These are the policies we've put in place for misinformation or mislabeling media or whatever.
00:28:42.020 Why do you think this should be taken down?
00:28:44.340 Yeah.
00:28:45.180 Like, those are the questions they're going to ask him.
00:28:47.680 Yeah.
00:28:48.080 You know?
00:28:48.480 Yeah.
00:28:48.660 It's going to be hard for him to be like, oh, because people should make their own decision.
00:28:53.520 It's like, no, but people don't know how to make a rational decision if you don't put out correct things that are supposed to be out in the pub.
00:29:01.920 As an advertiser, as my business, as what I do every day and why I go out is, like, we want it to be as fair and transparent and accurate as possible.
00:29:13.680 Yeah.
00:29:14.080 And if that means there's a level of censorship to make it correct, quote unquote, again, and what does correct mean?
00:29:22.860 I guess it just kind of goes against the idea of, like, well, what is correct?
00:29:26.780 If we're implementing all these rules and Elon wants to dismantle them, then technically our ideology has led us to not making money because we're not making money.
00:29:39.780 And Elon wants to turn it the other way so that we can make money.
00:29:42.760 There's a statement they need all 7,000 people to say.
00:29:46.900 And so they can't, like, tell us the, like, the real truth.
00:29:52.420 He has hotspots.
00:29:53.680 Yeah.
00:29:54.120 Yeah, I know that.
00:29:54.760 It's really special.
00:29:56.580 Your special needs.
00:29:58.260 You're literally special needs.
00:29:59.660 So, I can't even take what you're saying seriously.
00:30:03.600 Targeting of tapes.
00:30:05.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:30:06.100 You can read it.
00:30:07.020 Let me see.
00:30:08.080 And how to protect yourself.
00:30:10.280 Groups like Project Veritas are active right now.
00:30:15.100 What the fuck is that?
00:30:16.440 It's like some group that's trying to just out the employees.
00:30:18.940 Like, they're trying to go on dates with them like this and record them and then go sell it to the New York Times and say this is what the Twitter employee is saying.
00:30:27.320 This is what's really happening.
00:30:28.680 This is what they're telling us to not do.
00:30:30.220 You're lucky that you met me organically because I would be questioning everything about you.
00:30:33.880 Oh, my God.
00:30:36.000 Those last 30 seconds.
00:30:39.240 Incredible.
00:30:39.760 I mean, I tell you, I salute your trade craft that your reporter managed to meet him organically in a way that, oh, just the deliciousness there.
00:30:53.240 But the serious part of that, and there are a lot, but the idea that there's a correct idea that some bureaucrat, that that guy knows there's a correct idea and an incorrect idea, and he will be like this bureau of disinformation, and he will be the sole arbiter of truth, and he will make the decision for 300 million Twitter users.
00:31:14.460 That's the most important takeaway for me there.
00:31:17.140 No, I completely agree.
00:31:19.660 It's horrible.
00:31:20.360 And the way that he says it, it's also the confidence that they have that they do know better.
00:31:25.760 It's not that they're really having a debate with themselves, like, should I be doing this?
00:31:29.260 I want to do this.
00:31:30.460 It's, no, no, no.
00:31:31.360 I have to do this.
00:31:32.640 This is what I have to do.
00:31:34.280 And if you don't like it, it's because you're the problem.
00:31:37.100 Yeah.
00:31:37.300 You know, for a guy to be reading a Twitter security memo saying, don't go on a date with Project Veritas while he's on a date with Project Veritas.
00:31:47.680 And I loved how your reporter said Project Veritas or something.
00:31:52.080 Just, what's that?
00:31:53.680 Project Veritas?
00:31:55.340 Oh, my God.
00:31:56.180 Like I say, to stay cool under pressure like that without, you know, I mean, I wouldn't want to play poker against any of your undercover reporters.
00:32:06.460 Let me put it that way.
00:32:07.400 I wouldn't be able to read them.
00:32:08.980 They'd be able to bluff through anything.
00:32:10.780 Well, let me ask you.
00:32:11.520 This is just amazing work, and the timing is perfect.
00:32:13.980 I know you guys don't give things away until you're ready, but is there more in this vein that we can look forward to?
00:32:20.400 So last night, James was actually at a comedy club.
00:32:23.300 We live streamed that.
00:32:24.180 I don't know if you saw this, but James was at a comedy club in New York City to talk about exactly what happened with this whole Twitter situation.
00:32:30.520 And this guy, Alex, who you just saw, he, James went out to ask him questions after this whole situation.
00:32:38.580 And we put out the video last night, and James ran it through the comedy club of how Alex sprinted away from him, trying to hide from him in the street in these different places.
00:32:47.860 It's actually, you should watch that video, too.
00:32:49.880 And today, we're still putting out a conversation between Siro, the first guy you watched, and our journalist, once he found out that he was being recorded.
00:32:59.500 And he also does not react in the most pleased way, if you can put it that way.
00:33:03.620 Oh, my God.
00:33:04.700 Well, you've – so has that one come out yet, or it's coming out later today?
00:33:07.980 So Alex's video went out last night.
00:33:09.820 You can see that on our YouTube channel, Project Veritale's YouTube channel.
00:33:13.840 It's on Twitter and Instagram as well.
00:33:15.800 And we're putting out the second one with Siro here today.
00:33:19.880 Unbelievable.
00:33:21.920 I am on the edge of my – I seriously – you couldn't write this stuff.
00:33:25.540 If you wrote this in a screenplay, the movie studio would say it's too on the nose.
00:33:30.280 It's over the top.
00:33:31.080 No one would believe it.
00:33:32.200 It's just unbelievable.
00:33:33.220 Well, Mario, congratulations.
00:33:34.940 Please pass on our best regards to your team, including James O'Keefe, your founder, who just does great work.
00:33:40.100 And I can hardly wait to watch your next videos drop.
00:33:43.040 So thanks for making time for us today.
00:33:45.340 Thank you, guys.
00:33:45.800 It was a pleasure.
00:33:46.440 Thank you so much.
00:33:47.200 Right on.
00:33:47.580 There you have it.
00:33:48.080 Mario Balaban, Media Relations Manager for Project Veritas, or as they sometimes say, Project Veritas.
00:33:54.880 Stay with us.
00:33:55.640 More ahead.
00:33:56.120 Boy, I love those guys at Project Veritas.
00:34:09.940 I mean, could you keep a straight face if you were on a date with someone, but you were actually on an undercover reporter, and they said, oh, I have to be careful for undercover reporters going on dates with me.
00:34:22.320 Look at this warning from corporate security.
00:34:25.740 I don't know how you could keep a straight face.
00:34:27.920 I mean, like I said, I wouldn't want to play poker with those guys.
00:34:31.300 I mean, I love some of those undercover cop movies.
00:34:33.620 I mean, there's just some amazing ones, the drama, the stress, but those guys at Project Veritas do a great job.
00:34:39.640 What do you think about Jason Kenney?
00:34:40.700 I'm glad he's gone because I think he was not who he used to be.
00:34:46.060 He used to be for freedom and for conservative values and small government, especially religious freedom.
00:34:50.640 He wasn't those things these past two years, and I think his haughtiness and arrogance came through.
00:34:55.280 I'm just so sad about that.
00:34:56.540 I used to be good chums with him, but I think the party has a fresh start, and I think that that's the best way, not to try and cover up what Kenny was doing.
00:35:04.940 As a senior conservative asked me to do, I refused, obviously, but I think to actually get someone good in that chair.
00:35:12.380 Well, that's our show for today.
00:35:13.980 I hope you enjoyed it.
00:35:14.720 Thank you very much, and I'll leave you there.
00:35:17.220 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.