EZRA LEVANT ｜ Joe Biden returns to America to talk about World War Three — and to brag about how brave he is
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Joe Biden's State of the Union speech about World War III was a disaster. Then we have a change of pace and talk to Robert Krejcik, a reporter on the scene at Tamara Leach's trial in Ottawa.
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Hello, my friends. Big show today. I want to talk about Joe Biden's atrocious speech yesterday,
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sort of a State of the Union speech about World War III. I was not consoled. I was not comforted.
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I was not given confidence by it. I think it was a disaster. Then we'll have a change of pace and
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talk to Robert Krejcik, a reporter on the scene at Tamara Leach's trial in Ottawa. That, on the
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other hand, is going well. We'll talk to him. That's ahead. But first, let me invite you to
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Tonight, Joe Biden returns to America to talk about World War III and to ask for more money
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for Ukraine. It's October 20th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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I'm astonished by Joe Biden's big speech last night. The world is on the brink of a world war.
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It really feels that way to me. America's role in the world is being challenged in ways it hasn't
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been in two generations. I saw this tweet today by a thoughtful technology entrepreneur and investor
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and thinker. I'd even call him a philosopher. Balaji Srinivasan is his name. He loves America
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very much. He's very successful. And I think he's a thinker. And this hit me hard about the state of
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the world and America in particular. But doesn't this apply to Canada too? And I think maybe it takes
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a foreign born guy like him to look at us in a way that we can't see. I'll just read a bit of it.
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He says, let's be real. U.S. political leaders since the Gulf War are perhaps the worst leaders
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in the history of the world. In 1991, they had inherited a hyper power that wins everywhere without
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fighting. But by 2021, they produced a declining power that fights everywhere without winning.
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Isn't that clever? It's 30 years of unmitigated domestic and international failure from San Francisco
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to Syria, from financial crisis to coronavirus. With every inherited advantage, U.S. leaders
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nevertheless produced historical collapses in life expectancy. And you can see he's got footnotes
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later on. He proves all these things. Life inspections and manufacturing capacity in patriotic
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loyalty and involvement in community. They also delivered concomitant rises in drug overdoses,
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out-of-wedlock births, and homeless encampments. And he goes on making the case at length. And I
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couldn't help but think of the Roman Empire collapsing. And it was probably really fun living in Rome right
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until those last days. There's some similarities. I mean, there are millions of migrants crossing the
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border into the U.S. with no impediment. Most are probably just economic migrants, of course. But how many
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are, I don't know, Iranian agents like Hamas just walking in? I mean, do you doubt that some of them are?
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I hope and pray that we don't one day have a violent event in America by people who just walked across
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the border. Rome was destroyed from within as much as from without. It feels that way in America now,
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too. There are times when eloquence from the president helps to give citizens a boost to their
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spirits, to show them a plan, to help them understand things, to show the way to go. Reagan was famous for
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that. And remember, he became president during the Cold War, when there were real risks to America. He took
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over an economy in recession, when gas prices were skyrocketing and stagflation, when the Soviets were
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on the march around the world. But he matched philosophy and eloquence with principles and a
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strategy, and he rebuilt America. He took it to its best decade in memory, really. But words have to
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have ideas behind them to be meaningful. Can you remember a single Barack Obama speech? He had little
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turns a phrase, but the ideas underneath, not so much. So what did Joe Biden, Obama's vice president,
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say yesterday? It was so weak, I've forgotten it already, really. Let me show you a few clips.
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Take a look at this. More than 1,300 people slaughtered in Israel, including at least 32 American
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citizens. Scores of innocents, from infants to the elderly grandparents, Israelis, Americans,
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taken hostage. As I told the families of Americans being held captive by Hamas,
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we're pursuing every avenue to bring their loved ones home. As president, there is no higher priority
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for me than the safety of Americans held hostage. Really? Every avenue? The leaders of Hamas are
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holed up in Qatar, a so-called U.S. ally. There's even a U.S. air base in Qatar. And yet,
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when Secretary of State Antony Blinken went there, he didn't say hand over the hostages
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from Gaza and kick out Hamas's leaders, or we'll put, I don't know, a no-fly zone over Qatar,
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we'll declare you an enemy, we'll ban your banking from America, whatever. He could have pushed Qatar
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around in a second if he wanted to, but instead he said, hey guys, we really appreciate you.
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Thanks so much. What do you think Trump would have done if 32 Americans had been killed
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and more were held hostage? What do you think that he would have done?
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And that's it. That's all Biden had to say about that. Here's what he said next.
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Like so many other, I'm heartbroken by the tragic loss of Palestinian life, including the explosion
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at the hospital in Gaza, which was not done by the Israelis. We mourn every innocent life lost.
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We can't ignore the humanity of innocent Palestinians who only want to live in peace
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and have an opportunity. Okay, but do you know what Biden did?
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He announced $100 million more for Gaza, which is run by Hamas. There's no other government there.
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It's Hamas. Let me say that again. Joe Biden just gave another $100 million to the bad guys here.
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And he says it's because Hamas promised they won't steal it and use it for more rockets. Seriously,
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here's Deputy National Security Advisor John Feiner.
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The president pledged $100 million in an aid package to Palestinian civilians,
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innocent civilians in Gaza and the West Bank. How is the United States going to ensure
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that none of that ends up in the hands of Hamas?
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Well, as you know, this was a primary focus of the president's diplomacy yesterday, both in Israel,
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where he met with the entire Israeli security establishment, but also in his phone conversations
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with regional leaders, including President al-Sisi of Egypt. Getting assistance into Gaza
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is a complicated undertaking. It involves essentially securing an understanding among Hamas fighters
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who control the checkpoint on the other side of the border, among the government of Israel
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and among the government of Egypt. And the agreement the president secured will enable these trucks to
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flow as soon as the roadway can be repaired. But the president was also quite clear that if this
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assistance goes in, it cannot be misappropriated, cannot be taken by Hamas fighters for their own
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purposes. And so we're going to be watching that very closely. It has to get to Palestinian
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It has to. But the question is, from what you just said, is the U.S. then essentially in a position
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where it has to take the word of Hamas that it will not be taken? I mean, what other guarantee can
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We believe there is an understanding now among all of the players who control that crossing,
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Oh, we believe there's an understanding. That's not a gap. That's not an error. That's
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their line. Here's another American spokesman, State Department spokesman, Matt Miller.
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I think the concern the Israeli government has, and they've said this publicly and they certainly
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said it privately to us, is that any assistance that goes in will be diverted once it's inside Gaza.
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That there is not an Israeli military force in Gaza. There's not a UN peacekeeping force in Gaza.
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The people with guns inside Gaza are Hamas. And so Hamas may try to divert this assistance and keep
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it from getting to the civilians who it is intended for. We think that's a legitimate concern. We've
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made clear that this aid needs to go to innocent civilians and not Hamas. We're going to be watching
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very carefully how it's delivered because we want to be sensitive to those concerns, which we share.
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So Biden is really, really super mad at Hamas. So mad. Not mad enough to tell Qatar to hand over
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the terrorist leaders. Not mad enough to send in special forces to extract the Americans.
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Not mad that he's going to give them a tenth of a billion dollars. He's going to give them a hundred
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million dollars more because they pinky swear they won't use it to attack Israel or America,
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which they do and have done. But that's really all Biden had to say about Israel. Then he switched gears
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and made a pitch for more money for Ukraine. I'm serious. He just came back from a massacre
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in Israel by Hamas, which was organized in Qatar and directed by Iran. And he's done talking
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about all of that pretty much. Here's what he said next.
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You know, the assault on Israel echoes nearly 20 months of war, tragedy and brutality inflicted on
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the people of Ukraine. People that were very badly hurt since Putin launched his all out invasion.
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We've not forgotten the mass graves, the bodies found bearing signs of torture,
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rape used as a weapon by the Russians and thousands and thousands of Ukrainian children
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forcibly taken into Russia, stolen from their parents. It's sick.
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Now, I'm not here to argue degrees of evil if this war is worse or better than that war,
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if these victims are more victimized than those. Obviously, there's horrific losses in both wars.
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But I think there is something unique and particular about the evil barbarity of what
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happened in southern Israel two weeks ago. Live streaming murder and rape and hostage taking
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acts of torture. Literally, no national army in history that I know of, not since, I suppose,
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Genghis Khan. Not even the Soviets, not even the Nazis bragged about their cruelty to women and
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children. I do know this. The White House would never, or at least has never, condemn Ukraine as to
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how it fights back. When Ukraine sent missiles or drones into civilian areas, such as when they sent an
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attack into downtown Moscow, which is a civilian area, there is no denunciation by America. There
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was no call for a ceasefire applied to Ukraine only. In fact, the opposite, the U.S. often tells
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Ukraine never ceasefire. If, coming out of this meeting, there's some sort of call for a ceasefire,
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well, that's just going to be unacceptable because all that's going to do, Mike, is ratify
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Russia's conquest to date. All that's going to do is give Mr. Putin more time to refit, retrain,
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reman and try to plan for renewed offensives at a time of his choosing. So Israel has to stop
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fighting back, but not Ukraine or really anyone else in history who's been attacked. And here's
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our own Justin Trudeau on how Israel really has to stop fighting back. The protection of civilian life,
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whether it's hostages being held by Hamas or civilians in Gaza or elsewhere, needs to be at the
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forefront of everything we do, not just in the region, but as an international community. And that is
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what our diplomatic efforts are focused on, whether we're speaking to the leaders of Israel or the
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Palestinian Authority, whether it's my conversations with President Sisi or the Crown Prince of the Kingdom of
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Saudi Arabia or any other leaders in the region, the King of Jordan. We are going to continue calling for peace and
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calling for the protection of all civilian lives. So yeah, there are lots of different perspectives,
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but there are shared fears and concerns amongst all parliamentarians and a commitment every single day
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to keep everyone safe here in Canada and everywhere around the world.
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Got it. So some liberals support Hamas terrorists. Some oppose Hamas terrorists. Some liberals support
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Jew killing and some don't. And that's all fine. Vive la difference. Diversity makes us stronger.
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He's for peace, don't you know? Except for when he isn't really for peace.
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Canadians know that, yes, it is incredibly hard for Ukraine to continue to stand against a Russian aggression.
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And let's be honest. It's hard for the democracies around the world who are there to support their citizens,
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who are investing for the future, who are challenged with a challenging economy around the world to continue
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to step up as Canada has with close to $9 billion in aid for Ukraine. But we will because the cost on
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Canadians, on our lives, on our world will be so much greater if Putin wins this war that we will and have to stand,
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So by this point, I mean, the contrast actually between Israel and Ukraine is quite incredible.
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But by this point in time, Biden in his speech was pretty much done talking about Israel.
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He wanted to talk more about Ukraine. Russia is very bad, but not a word about Iran.
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Not a word. There were two references to Iran in passing, but none hanging Hamas around their neck.
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Meanwhile, Putin has turned to Iran and North Korea to buy attack drones and ammunition to
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So Biden's man and a man at Iran for helping Russia, but not for helping Hamas.
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Iran is supporting Russia in Ukraine and it's supporting Hamas and other terrorist groups in the region
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and will continue to hold them accountable, I might add.
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That's it. That's it. That's all you have to say about Iran.
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Iran is building a nuclear bomb right now that they say will be used against Israel.
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Iran funds and arms Hamas in the Gaza Strip and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
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This is all Iran's plan to destabilize the Abraham Accords, the realignment between Israel and the Sunni Arab countries.
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This is Iran. Biden doesn't think so. In fact, he literally gave $6 billion to Iran just a few weeks ago
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and another $100 million just promised to Iran's proxy. And that's it.
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And then he just used the rest of his speech to ask for money.
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He's asking for $100 billion, most of which is for Ukraine.
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I don't think he's even awake, by the way. I don't think he even knows what he's reading off the teleprompter.
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I mean, here he was just dozing off in front of reporters on Air Force One.
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circumstance where a large number of people had been victimized and lost, I spoke with them.
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I learned a long time ago what you've all learned in your life.
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When someone's going through something that is beyond their comprehension,
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that they've ever thought they've had to go through.
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If they see someone who they think understands or maybe they've done something not the same,
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And I always get criticized sometimes on my staff because when I go to these events,
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I stay for three to four hours and answer all their questions.
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But it matters. It matters a lot. And look, I'm talking, some of you have gone through a hell of a lot more than I've gone through.
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And a lot more than other people have gone through. And you understand.
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people are looking for just something to grant.
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something that gives them some sense, sense of hope.
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And that's, if I can do a little bit of that, then it's, you know, it's worth doing, not for me.
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Oh my God. And then he had the chutzpah to say this.
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American leadership is what holds the world together.
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American alliances are what keep us, America, safe.
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American values are what make us a partner that other nations want to work with.
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To put all that at risk, if we walk away from Ukraine, if we turn our backs on Israel,
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Is America really leading the world? Is it really?
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Economically, I don't, I don't think so. I think China is ascending. It's the largest economy now.
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Militarily. I'm not sure if America's number one anymore. I don't know.
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Is America respected around the world? Number one is America feared around the world. I don't think
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you can say it is with a straight face. And that makes me very sad to report.
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You know, I saw a funny old tweet from the late Norm Macdonald. You know, that comedian,
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he passed away a few years ago, but his Twitter feed is still up. He said this seven years ago.
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It was a joke. It was a joke. He said this. What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate
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a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans, imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims.
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That's a joke. That's pretty, pretty dry humor. Well,
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Joe Biden said as much in his speech, but it wasn't a joke.
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On October 7th, terror attacks have triggered deep scars and terrible memories in the Jewish community.
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Today, Jewish families worried about being targeted in school, wearing symbols of their face walking
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down the street, or going out about their daily lives. You know, I know many of you in the Muslim
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American community, the Arab American community, the Palestinian American community, and so many others
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are outraged and hearty saying to yourselves, here we go again with Islamophobia and distrust we saw
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after 9-11. Well, I don't distrust my Muslim friends. In fact, I'm sort of counting on them, but I do
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distrust thousands of Muslim extremists who are marching, chanting death to the Jews, waving the flags
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of actual terrorist organizations like the Taliban or the Islamic State, Islamic Jihad. I'm not going to bore you
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with any more Joe Biden's speech. It was immediately forgettable. It was just really another transactional
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Washington speech, a budget speech, really. It was noteworthy for what it lacked, not for what it had.
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No demand that Hamas release the hostages or face annihilation. No demand that Iran abandoned its schemes.
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How could Biden say that after giving each of them money just recently? America is the best country that is,
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the best country that has ever been. But that can be lost. That's not forever.
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The Roman Empire lasted for centuries, but it fell. Nothing's forever.
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Biden is presiding over the decline of America. I hate to say it. Balaji Sweeney Vassan is right.
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And I fear that Biden is presiding over the fall of the wonderful, great, modern, global era of freedom,
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peace and prosperity. Boy, I hope I'm wrong. But what do you think?
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Stay with us for more from the trial of Tamara Leach.
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Well, big show today. And I was really glad to go deep with Robert Krejci because I hadn't had a catch
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up on the Tamara Leach trial in a while. We've been talking so much about, you know, World War Three,
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really. And I'm becoming increasingly concerned for the Canadian front of that war. It's just nuts
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to me that there are now protests in front of Jewish kindergartens in Toronto. Here's a clip from
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the Miles Nadal JCC, which is not an Israeli embassy. It's nothing to do with Israel. It's like a YMCA,
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but it's Jewish. You don't have to be Jewish to go there. It's in the heart of Toronto. There's a
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kindergarten in there. There's exercise and meeting rooms. It's just a place. It's Jewish, but you don't
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have to be. It's not like a synagogue. There's a kindergarten in there. There have been religious
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services in there. Hamas protesters are outside chanting their death to the Jews chants at a
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Jewish place in Toronto. Not an Israeli place, a Jewish place. Here's some more video.
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That's what I'm worried about. Israel, I think and I hope, can take care of itself.
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But here in Canada, who's taking care of us? On that note, I'll bid you a good weekend.
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On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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Hello, my friends. Big show today. I want to talk about Joe Biden's atrocious speech yesterday,
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sort of a State of the Union speech about World War III. I was not consoled. I was not comforted. I was not
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given confidence by it. I think it was a disaster. Then we'll have a change of pace and talk to Robert
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Krejcik, our reporter on the scene at Tamara Leach's trial in Ottawa. That, on the other hand,
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is going well. We'll talk to him. That's ahead. But first, let me invite you to subscribe to what
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because we don't get any money from Trudeau. I can guarantee you that. All right, here's today's show.
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Well, we're interested in Israel because that is the center of the world in many ways. It's the bridge
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between Europe, Asia, and Africa. It's the biblical land. Some people believe that in the book of
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Revelations, the final battle will happen in Armageddon. There's actually a place called
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Armageddon, Har Megiddo in Hebrew. You can visit it yourself. And look at this, how all the nations are
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converging there. United States, Russia, China, Iran, Israel itself. I certainly hope that the end is not
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near because I'm not done yet with the different things that I want to do.
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Putting that aside, the world does go on. In the meantime, here in Canada, we care very much about
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our civil liberties, and we care about the battle that happened a year and a half ago,
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a peaceful battle, I must add, in the streets of Canada, where peaceful Canadians peacefully protested
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against the government that was forcing them to get a jab of an experimental vaccine against their
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wishes and punishing them if they didn't do so. Not only were they not allowed to fly in planes or
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get on trains, but truck drivers were told they could no longer cross the border. Truck drivers,
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I can't think of a more solitary profession than a truck driver, perhaps a lighthouse keeper. Imagine
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telling them they cannot work without a jab. Well, it was just too much. And so truckers across the
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country had a convoy, a freedom convoy, converging on Ottawa in a most Canadian manner. They were
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honking their horns and, well, that's about it. But just their moral courage, and it broke the false
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consciousness in Canada that everyone was fine with lockdowns and forced vaccines and losing your jobs
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over it. Those truckers got the world's attention, perhaps for the first time. Canada was the center of
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the world for a civil disobedience completely peaceful that in the end made Justin Trudeau
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overplay his hand, invoke a form of martial law, seize bank accounts of his political enemies.
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And if you look at the polling, that was the inflection point from that point onwards. The spell
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that Justin Trudeau seemed to cast over Canadians was broken. I see a new poll today saying that amongst
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millennials, Justin Trudeau is now in third place in the polls, something unthinkable,
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a couple of years ago. And I believe it was the courage of the truckers. Well,
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one woman who was a kind of, I call her spiritual leader, more a role model, a mascot is too demeaning
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a word, a guide, a Sherpa, an encourager, the chief encourager of the convoy was a woman from
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Medicine Hat Alberta named Tamara Leach, who would take to Facebook and make very heartfelt pleas to
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them to keep the peace and to stay focused. Well, of course, the regime couldn't stand her.
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They arrested her, held her without bail for 49 days. And now she's been on trial,
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well, it's been about a month now she's been on trial, a trial that is clearly political in its
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nature. But Rebel News, we cover that news just like we covered the trucker convoy.
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Not just covering it, we published Tamara Leach's bestselling autobiography called Hold the Line.
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I recommend it to you if you haven't yet read it. Even if you think you know all there is
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to know about Tamara Leach, you will learn much more about her. I thought I know her pretty closely.
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I learned so much and my admiration for her was deepened by reading the book.
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And our friends at the Democracy Fund have crowdfunded one of the best criminal lawyers around
00:25:52.340
to represent her in this case. I've had the chance to get to know the lawyer Lawrence Greenspawn a
00:25:58.980
little bit, talking to him one-on-one and visited with him briefly when I was last in Ottawa. I admire
00:26:05.460
his legal brains and his patience and I think he's doing an excellent job. But that's me sitting here
00:26:10.820
in Toronto. The trial is actually happening every day in Ottawa and I'm delighted to say
00:26:15.700
that the newest rebel, Robert Krejcik, is attending this trial every day in person and he is live
00:26:22.900
tweeting the ins and outs of it. And he joins us now live outside the courthouse via Skype to give us
00:26:30.180
the latest. Robert, it's great to see you again. I can't tell you how glad I am that you are there every
00:26:35.140
day covering it, not just with your written stories, but literally minute by minute. So on behalf of
00:26:41.300
rebels across the country, thanks for doing that. Okay, thanks for the kind words. It's a labor of
00:26:46.820
love. Well, that's great. And I know you've really gotten to know the details of the case and every
00:26:52.980
day you talk to the lawyer, Lawrence Greenspawn, I think you've really got a good grasp of the case
00:26:59.140
and how it's going. Can you give us a report? I think today is technically day 20. And of course,
00:27:05.780
that's just counting weekdays. So this thing's been going on for more than a month. How's it going?
00:27:13.140
Day 21, technically. I actually put out a misinformation. I put 20. I get confused with
00:27:16.980
the days sometimes. Oh yeah. But as far as how it's going, it's very similar to what I was
00:27:20.900
saying last time I joined you on your show in that as far as I'm concerned, the prosecution is still
00:27:26.260
really struggling to make its case because they've got this impossible task of saying that
00:27:30.180
two plus two is four. It's very hard to prove these claims of mischief, obstruction of police,
00:27:35.540
intimidation, when there's no real specific instance that they're pointing to where Tamara
00:27:40.340
Leach did this at this time, at this location, let me prove it to you. Or Chris Barber did this
00:27:45.220
obstruction or this intimidation at this time, at this location, and let me prove it to you. It's very
00:27:49.700
difficult for them. Yeah, you know, I was only there for one day and frankly, I didn't have the
00:27:55.300
patience to stay any longer. I had thought I would cover more of this trial. And I salute your
00:27:59.700
patience, Robert. But when I was there, I listened to a witness for the entire day who very early in
00:28:05.540
his testimony admitted he had never met Tamara Leach, never spoke with Tamara Leach, never seen her,
00:28:10.180
emailed, phoned, met nothing, had no first-hand information, which is what a witness is called to
00:28:17.140
do. A witness is called to say, I saw this, I heard this, I read this, I took a photo, I took a video,
00:28:22.420
here's the letter. And I sat there for a whole day as a witness who was some city bureaucrat said,
00:28:28.500
no, I don't have any information, but let me tell you how I felt about the whole thing. And I thought,
00:28:33.460
I don't need to listen to an amateur pundit whine about, you know, horn honking for a day. What's that
00:28:41.220
got to do with the guilt or innocence of Tamara Leach? So that's why I just, I didn't go back. Forgive me,
00:28:46.580
Robert, I was planning on being there with you. How has it been since, for example, tell us who was,
00:28:51.940
who was on the witness stand today? Was there anyone who had first-hand knowledge of anything
00:28:56.340
Tamara Leach did? Okay. Okay. Just before I get to today, you actually had the good fortune of
00:29:01.060
probably having the most unbearable witness. I think it was Serge Arpin. So you took the heaviest
00:29:06.100
load on that day. That guy was, again, if you were to do a Google image search of
00:29:11.380
city bureaucrat drone, that's the guy that would pop up. He is beyond parody. He is
00:29:16.820
beyond caricature, the way he looks, the way he speaks, the things he says. But anyway,
00:29:20.820
here's the theme. As far as you said, he had no direct communication with either of the defendants.
00:29:26.180
That's true for basically all of the witnesses, except the most recent one who had some direct
00:29:32.420
communication via text message with Chris Barber in the capacity of her job as a police liaison
00:29:38.420
officer liaising with Chris Barber. But I'll give you a little breakdown of the past week and a bit.
00:29:43.300
So the most recent slate of witnesses are a bunch of Ottawa residents who are testifying to what they
00:29:49.140
claim are harms that befell them as a function of the convoy. And they're saying that, you know,
00:29:54.500
they had sleepless nights. They couldn't concentrate at work. They were obstructed from enjoying and
00:30:00.100
partaking in their property, couldn't have full access to their vehicles and so forth. So this is
00:30:04.740
basically how the prosecution is seeking to demonstrate how certain people were intimidated
00:30:10.580
by this demonstration and trying to lay it at the feet of Chris Barber and Tamara Leach.
00:30:15.540
I'll share one noteworthy one with you, which I think you remarked on on Twitter,
00:30:19.220
which is this guy. He's a federal worker, like most of the witnesses are. And he was testifying
00:30:25.300
about how he literally said this, that he cried with his partner. That's the word he used,
00:30:29.460
his partner as a function of the sleepless nights, the honking, the horns. And he was basically being
00:30:37.220
traumatic about the harms that befell him. He said he was bullied as a kid. He was intimidated
00:30:40.580
by these protesters who sort of jeered at him or mocked him for wearing a mask outside. And here's
00:30:46.500
one thing that jumped out at me, which was so interesting. And this will relate to the way you
00:30:51.540
and I and many in the audience, I think, would feel, to use that word, whoever joined in the Freedom
00:30:57.620
Convoy. He said that he partook in this counter demonstration where he was engaging in civil
00:31:02.420
disobedience with like-minded people who, in my view, support the COVID-19 enterprise.
00:31:07.380
And he was obstructing traffic. The goal of this counter demonstration was to reduce the flow of
00:31:12.020
people supporting the convoy, to reduce the number of supporters that could participate in the peaceful
00:31:16.900
demonstration in downtown. And he described it, these are quotes, it was a meaningful experience
00:31:21.620
for him amid what he described as a god-awful time, and that he got to sort of commune,
00:31:27.780
I'm using that word, with like-minded people who were sharing stories of how they were victimized
00:31:33.460
by the Freedom Convoy. And that's how a lot of us would describe the Freedom Convoy itself. It was this
00:31:38.020
beacon of light, this inspiring, reinvigorating moment at a time of great despondency, of great despair,
00:31:43.300
because we saw how dark the government could be. So that was a really interesting contrast,
00:31:47.380
despite the fact that this guy is on the side of an issue that we think is awful.
00:31:51.860
You know, there is a place for that kind of testimony, believe it or not, and that's if,
00:31:57.380
God forbid, Tamara Leach is convicted, then there's something called a witness, or sorry,
00:32:02.100
a victim impact statement. So that's typical across Canada. If a crime is committed,
00:32:09.140
and that's tested, you know, what are the facts? What is the law? Did you commit the crime?
00:32:13.780
And then the judge, right before the sentence, any victim can say, well, I would like to make
00:32:18.900
a statement, your honor, because the guilt is already done. And now the judge is sort of calibrating,
00:32:24.820
well, is this a good guy? Do we have letters of recommendation and letters of reference that he's
00:32:28.820
actually first-time criminal? He's great in the community. And then there's letters of aggravation,
00:32:33.940
you know, he made me feel sad. So there is a place for these kind of therapy sessions that
00:32:39.700
you're talking about. But I don't think that place is before a guilt is found and going on at such
00:32:47.060
length. If someone wants therapy, because they heard some horn honking, I don't think a criminal
00:32:52.500
trial of Tamara Leach is the place for it. But what you described, there was a guy having his own
00:32:58.260
blockade, his own blocking traffic moment. I'm not sure what any of that has to do with Tamara
00:33:03.300
Leach, though. And she's got to be rolling her eyes thinking, why do I have to basically
00:33:08.660
give up a month of my life to sit here listening to people who have nothing to say on my guilt or
00:33:14.420
innocence? Like, put your, I mean, our charter, section 11b, if I'm going from memory, says you
00:33:19.540
have the right to a speedy trial, and it's got to be a fair trial. And having every single political
00:33:25.860
activist in the city coming to say, I hate her! Well, I've never met her, but I hate her because I hate
00:33:30.980
those horns! I think that's, as Woody Allen would say, a travesty of a mockery of a sham.
00:33:36.340
Like, at what point in time does this judge take control of her courtroom? Or, let me throw this
00:33:41.700
at you, is the judge giving the prosecution a lot of leeway? Because maybe she's going to acquit,
00:33:50.420
and she doesn't want to give the prosecution anything to hang their coat on for an appeal.
00:33:56.660
Because I think it's clear that the case against Tamara Leach will not be upheld.
00:34:01.300
I think the judge is going to acquit. So I think maybe the reason she's tolerating such BS
00:34:07.780
is so that there's nothing at all the prosecution can point to if they try and appeal an acquittal.
00:34:15.460
That's my speculative theory. What do you think?
00:34:18.500
Entirely sure. Speculation, you're reminding me of so many things. So,
00:34:21.620
Lawrence Greenspawn, again, the defense attorney for Tamara Leach, said basically what you said with
00:34:26.260
respect to these testimonies that we're emoting and a lot of speaking about feelings, rather than
00:34:32.020
testimonies to this happened at this place at this time. That guy that you mentioned that you
00:34:36.820
listened to, that witness, that Serge Arpin guy, former chief of staff, that bureaucrat drone,
00:34:41.700
literally said, this is a quote, I felt uncomfortable walking around the Freedom Convoy demonstration.
00:34:47.380
That's not a statement of fact in the regard of, oh, I saw this thing happen or this happened to me.
00:34:53.700
That's like how I felt about things. And the judge herself said, I think in week two,
00:34:57.940
this is almost an exact quote, that feelings are not substitutes for findings of fact. So,
00:35:03.620
Lawrence Greenspawn also said that these amount to victim impact statements and they're premature
00:35:08.740
because victim impact statements are meant to be delivered at the conclusion of a trial
00:35:13.140
in the event of a determination of guilt to help the judge or jury determine the consequences,
00:35:20.980
whatever the punishment or sentence will be. Now, um, as far as, um,
00:35:28.740
as, um, as far as your speculation of the acquittal and why the judge is being very
00:35:33.780
free in terms of allowing this testimony that is so irrelevant and unspecific,
00:35:37.780
I can't read her mind, but I can tell you objectively through lawyers that I've spoken to
00:35:42.740
have been fortunate enough to coach me up as a lay person as to what the impact of this can be,
00:35:47.140
is that allowing witnesses and evidence to be entered that is irrelevant,
00:35:53.460
removes a potential ground upon which the prosecution can submit an appeal in the event
00:35:59.940
that not guilty verdicts are rendered for the charges against the two defendants. In other words,
00:36:05.140
if the judge is going to come in and say, you know what, this is irrelevant. We don't care about
00:36:09.300
your feelings. We want good, uh, relevant, germane, apropos testimony and evidence.
00:36:15.460
The crown could appeal that decision at the end of the trial and contested. So you're right.
00:36:22.020
Pragmatically, the judge is potentially, the judge is removing that deliberately or otherwise.
00:36:26.980
Yeah. Very interesting. I want to talk about one more witness who was there this week.
00:36:31.540
And, um, I w I might say she's, uh, a famous witness, at least famous in the 2023 definition
00:36:39.140
of that word. She's sort of Instagram famous. She's sort of an Instagram influencer. She's a young
00:36:43.860
woman. Her name is Zexy Lee, if I'm pronouncing that correctly. Uh, she works for the government as
00:36:50.580
a bureaucrat. She lives downtown and she was one of the very first witnesses at the liberal run
00:36:57.060
public inquiry into the martial law project. And I, I covered, I was there, uh, for that, uh,
00:37:06.260
for part of that. And she had this very emotive, it felt like she was doing an Instagram video,
00:37:12.980
dear diary. And these people hurt my feelings. And I felt like it was just what you're talking
00:37:17.620
about. A lot of emotion and therapy. And again, there might be a place for that. I don't think
00:37:20.740
a public inquiry is a place. And I definitely don't think a criminal trial is a place. She is also a,
00:37:25.540
uh, an influencer of fortune. She, she sees an opportunity and she's going for it. She is the
00:37:31.620
lead plaintiff in a proposed class action suit for hundreds of millions of dollars against these
00:37:37.380
truckers. Like she wants to get paid as any young influencer dreams that they can leave their boring
00:37:43.140
job and just be an influencer. So she has this lawsuit against all the truckers for millions of
00:37:49.140
dollars. And so she is doing this rounds of the media and they ask her softball questions. And she
00:37:55.780
was a very gentle, uh, witness in the public inquiry, but, and I think she made a mistake here, Robert,
00:38:04.980
she went to a real trial and she was cross-examined by a real lawyer, not a liberal, gentle lawyer,
00:38:11.540
not a CBC, you know, those butterfly kisses that they call interviews. Tell us a little bit, because
00:38:18.420
I was following it through Twitter, how Zexy Lee crumbled under cross-examination. And I, I wasn't
00:38:26.660
there. So you can tell me, I presume that Lawrence Greenspan, the lawyer was polite, but firm, not mean,
00:38:33.300
not tough, just really methodical. Cause I understand that at the end of it, she left the
00:38:39.540
courthouse crying. And I have my own theory about that. Tell us about Zexy Lee.
00:38:44.660
Yeah. Well, I described her as a sort of celebrity activist witness in terms of celebrity. She was
00:38:49.380
receiving fawning news media attention. We saw outlets like the CBC write up these fawning articles
00:38:55.540
about her. Like here's a profile of the woman that got the injunction and her heroic attempts to
00:39:00.500
end this evil anti-vaxxer, anti-science convoy of right wing, you know, supremacists or whatever
00:39:06.340
nonsense terminology they wanted to use to denigrate Canadians that oppose the COVID-19 enterprise.
00:39:12.260
She was also deliberately using terms like occupation. Now, was she coached into doing that? Is she just
00:39:18.340
programmed by CBC to use this sort of martial language to describe the, to describe the convoy? She
00:39:24.180
also used words like intimidation, said that she had been sort of intimidated by protesters that
00:39:28.420
jeered at her for wearing a mask. And you're right. The metaphor that I would use is it's very
00:39:33.140
different to get in the ring against an opponent, as opposed to hitting a punching bag, right?
00:39:37.220
So the, the, uh, this inquiry that she attended or an interview with the outlet, like a CBC is
00:39:43.700
very different from being in a trial where being cross-examined by a lawyer, challenging your
00:39:48.020
premises, challenging the veracity or believability, credibility of your claims. So, you know,
00:39:54.100
without going into boring specifics, some of the things she said were sort of
00:39:57.060
like contradictory. She said that she was hit by a car or, uh, a truck had backed into her
00:40:01.380
maliciously, deliberately, but then conceded that she'd actually gotten out of the way of
00:40:05.300
that vehicle. It didn't really hit her. Um, she didn't produce, uh, video evidence of these things
00:40:10.180
that she had claimed happened to her. I didn't see the crying. I heard that it happened. Um, but yeah,
00:40:15.220
it was a very sort of emotive thing. And again, like in terms of physical attributes, you know,
00:40:19.380
she's young, she's good looking. So she's got that sort of appeal to her in a very superficial way
00:40:24.180
to be this sort of latest news media hype creation. And I'll get on my, uh, commentary
00:40:30.180
soapbox for a moment. We do live in a time where the institutions of power manufacture and fetishize
00:40:35.780
and commodify victimhood real or imagined, or in this case manufactured. So she sees herself as a
00:40:41.380
beneficiary of that in terms of celebrity status. And as you mentioned it, she's the lead plaintiff in a
00:40:46.500
class action lawsuit seeking $290 million from Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, and other people
00:40:53.620
that are going to be defendants in that lawsuit. Yeah. She wants to get paid. I mean, here's an
00:40:58.020
example. And I read this in the CBC story. And the reason I cite the CBC is because they're so
00:41:03.780
anti-trucker and so pro-Zexy Lee. If they're reporting it, I know that that's the best spin from
00:41:09.780
Lexi, Zexy Lee's point of view. They, they said that one of the exchanges was, Zexy Lee said,
00:41:15.540
oh, and the honking, it never stopped. And I had nightmares and I was bracing for it.
00:41:19.540
But on cross-examination, she admitted it stopped when the, the injunction came in.
00:41:24.260
And I think it was like a 10 day period, not a single horn was honked. And then,
00:41:28.900
you know, one day, 10 days later, like just between her BS spin that the CBC had run uncritically for a
00:41:36.180
year and a half. And finally, when she was pressed for details, when did this happen? Where did this
00:41:40.900
happen? Did you see this for yourself? A lot of things that she said, she witnessed,
00:41:45.140
she admitted, and you correct me if I'm getting this wrong. She admitted under oath. Well,
00:41:49.380
she hadn't seen them. She had just heard about them. And oh yeah, I wasn't hit with the car.
00:41:55.220
I might've been had, had it come from, like just so many things she said turned out not to be true.
00:42:02.980
I got to think that's going to hurt her civil claim for 300 million bucks. But here's what I
00:42:07.540
think made her cry. You tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, a lot of the things that Lawrence Greenspan
00:42:13.460
poked a hole in in cross-examination, but I know from, I used to act as a lawyer. I haven't been in
00:42:19.780
a lawyer for years, a practicing lawyer. When a witness is giving testimony, no one can
00:42:24.740
coach them. They got to give the testimony and not get any input into what they're saying until it's
00:42:31.620
over. Not even from their own lawyer. So if let's say there's a lunch break, let's say someone's on
00:42:35.940
the witness stand all morning and then there's a lunch break. They can't huddle with the lawyers.
00:42:40.580
How's it going? Am I doing okay? You can't because that would, that would alter what you're saying.
00:42:47.140
And Zexy Lee was saying so many awful things. She was blowing it because Lawrence Greenspan was
00:42:52.740
poking holes in it. But the lawyer of fortune who's seeking the $300 million payout, she,
00:42:58.420
he was there. Yeah. And they met and they talked. And Zexy Lee said they talked for 10 minutes.
00:43:07.380
And Lawrence Greenspan objected to that. She said, oh no, no, we were just saying,
00:43:10.340
where would we go for lunch? For 10 minutes. That's a 10 minute conversation, is it? And, and there were
00:43:15.460
questions about would her testimony even be allowed and just her conduct. My theory is she
00:43:21.300
left crying because she had never had a tough question before. And she realized her antics
00:43:29.220
have seriously jeopardized the chances of success in her $3 million get rich quick scheme. That's my
00:43:37.380
theory from here in Toronto. You're on the ground in Ottawa. What do you think?
00:43:40.020
Well, like you said, Paul Champ, who is the lead attorney representing her class action lawsuit,
00:43:45.060
he was in attendance on that day of her testimony. And clearly he has a vested interest too. I don't
00:43:50.340
know what his cut would be of whatever damages they might procure through that lawsuit, assuming
00:43:55.220
they're somewhat or fully successful, but he's got a lot riding on the line in terms of his ongoing
00:44:00.660
investment in that lawsuit and his desire to see it turn out lucratively. So he was there in attendance.
00:44:06.740
They spoke. Did she cry over that? Let's presume so. Because again, she's got a lot on the line
00:44:11.060
potentially as well. There's actually one thing I want to sort of interject with something that
00:44:16.900
happened today, which I think is very interesting. And you can probably share some insights in given
00:44:21.140
your legal pedigree. Today's actually been a very unusual day. We've mostly been out of the courtroom
00:44:26.100
while the prosecution and defense attorneys sort of informally seek to resolve this ongoing
00:44:31.620
disclosure issue. Now, what is the disclosure issue? There are these emails that came to the
00:44:37.060
attention either through disclosure or some other means to Diane Magus, who is the defense attorney for
00:44:42.260
Chris Barber. And she took a moment today during proceedings to give specific instances of email.
00:44:49.460
So this person emailed that person and this portion, this paragraph was redacted. That's the word
00:44:54.100
she's redacted. And she wants those emails to be fully disclosed. She thinks that the information
00:45:00.260
that was redacted in the emails that she has obtained. And these emails are from the PLT. The
00:45:05.220
PLT is the acronym for police liaison teams. PLTs are the sort of division of the Ottawa police service
00:45:11.620
that liaise with relevant stakeholders in the context of special events. Let's say there's a bunch of
00:45:18.340
foreign officials coming into Ottawa and they've got to organize security and close off certain roads.
00:45:22.900
The PLTs will coordinate with their security staff. Let's say there's a freedom convoy in downtown.
00:45:28.100
The PLT will coordinate with the events organizers to ensure public safety in the interest of
00:45:33.300
the Ottawa police service's stated mission. Okay. So the PLT had a bunch of emails corresponding
00:45:38.980
between themselves and others germane to this trial. And Diane Magus, again, wants those emails
00:45:45.140
fully disclosed, no redactions. And the witness that was going to testify today, she's a police officer
00:45:51.220
with the PLT. Her name is Nicole Bache. And she didn't testify at all because the defense does
00:45:59.220
not want to proceed with cross-examination until they have full disclosure of these emails. Their
00:46:03.780
position is that they cannot fully prepare or plan or arrange their cross-examination strategy without
00:46:11.380
full awareness of what those emails entail. Now, here's where it gets interesting. The prosecution is
00:46:16.100
contesting those requests to remove the redactions. And there were several grounds provided for their
00:46:24.180
justification to keep those redactions redacted. And one of them was executive privilege. And another
00:46:29.460
one, and this is where I think you can elaborate here as a lawyer, one was solicitor privilege. So
00:46:34.100
to give a specific here, the Ottawa police service has a legal department. They got Ottawa police legal
00:46:40.020
counsel, I think is their title. And Tim Radcliffe, who's the lead prosecutor,
00:46:45.060
at one point during today's proceedings had to say to the judge, look, I can't proceed on this
00:46:49.540
disclosure dispute until I communicate with Ottawa police services legal team. He wanted their green
00:46:55.540
light or red light or whatever before he could decide what to disclose. So what's so interesting is
00:46:59.940
that you've got a defense team, two defendants who want information from the Ottawa police service,
00:47:06.500
but the Ottawa police service refuses to disclose it because their legal team is claiming that this
00:47:12.020
stuff is somehow privileged on an executive level, like reveal sources and methods or compromise
00:47:17.140
existing investigations or reveal stuff to the public that we don't want revealed. So that,
00:47:23.620
Yeah, that is interesting. And I was reading, I think it was your coverage today,
00:47:28.340
that one of the cops wiped their phone clean and, quote, lost their notes. Well,
00:47:34.900
isn't that convenient how these things just get wiped clean? You know, I've had cell phones for
00:47:39.380
more than a decade. For 20 years, I've had a cell phone. I've never had my cell phone wiped
00:47:44.180
clean. Like that's just, that's just not something that happens. Oh, I dropped it.
00:47:47.780
It was wiped clean. And, and even if your cell phone is lost, it's all backed up to the cloud.
00:47:53.780
Like it's, I've never heard of such an excuse before. You know, one of the, one of the possible
00:47:58.260
outcomes, I'm just daydreaming. I was not there for this. I'm guessing it was called a voir dire where
00:48:03.620
the lawyers were going back and forth with the, I'm, uh, one of the outcomes could be that the
00:48:07.940
judge herself reads these sensitive passages and the judge herself sees them and then decides
00:48:16.100
whether or not they should be, uh, released. Um, but I tell you, the whole idea of disclosure
00:48:24.420
is you're up against the unlimited resources of the state. They have a duty to turn over facts that
00:48:30.340
exculpate you, not just inculpate you. Of course, the police are going to disclose things that make
00:48:36.180
the defendants look bad. That's easy. You don't have to coach them to do that, but they've got to
00:48:41.860
release the things that might make the government look bad. And let me tell you a little anecdote
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about this judge, Robert. I don't know this judge personally, but I, I was Googling her. And if I recall,
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she was the judge for the case of vice Admiral Mark Norman, the, uh, really a senior brass in the
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military who was charged with some trumped up charge by Trudeau because he politically rubbed
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Trudeau the wrong way. And they put this great patriot on trial for months. But then at the last
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moment, there was a late disclosure from the, by the government that absolutely nuked their case
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against him. He was completely vindicated. It was a huge embarrassment for Trudeau. And this was the
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same judge, Robert. And so I've got to think just as a human, not even as a former lawyer or political
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person, just as a human, if you're a judge who has this enormously politically charged case, and you see
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that the prosecutions were playing games with disclosure, and when they finally came clean,
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it resulted in an immediate acquittal. I think this is the perfect judge for Tamara Leach's case.
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If you've got the same police playing the same games, refusing to disclose things, all these
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shenanigans. Look, I don't want to get too far ahead of things, but I have high hopes based on the,
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the weirdness of the witnesses, the sketchy conduct of the cops and the prosecutors.
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Boy, I'm getting a good feeling about this trial. I mean, listen, what do I know? What do I know?
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But it's, it doesn't seem to be going poorly is what I'm saying.
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I want to share one anecdote from today's proceedings that corroborate your speculation
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about the nature of this judge. So you mentioned the wiped phone. That was the term used by the police
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officer in explaining how she lost data on her work phone, that her phone went through this upgrade,
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update, and that her relevant work details, the so-called PLT logs, were lost in that process.
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It's actually worse than that. There was a police officer prior, another lady working with the PLT,
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and she said the same thing, that her data was lost via this upgrade, update to the phone systems.
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Now, also, the police officer did acknowledge this was Nicole Bache. Again, she was meant to testify
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today. She began testifying yesterday. She did acknowledge that it was her duty,
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her responsibility as a police officer to back up this information, but that she failed to do so.
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She tried to go through the process. It didn't work. She lost it. So she acknowledged that much
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without really saying, I'm sorry, or what have you. Now, as far as the judge goes, this is what's
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so interesting. Okay. It was the judge, her intervention, interjection, I don't know what the
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right term is, that elicited that revelation that the phone had been wiped. She basically said
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to the witness yesterday during proceedings about some piece of information that was being sought.
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Can't you just check your work phone? Can't you check your mobile records? And she's like,
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well, I wiped it. So it was the judge's own activity. Now, here's what gets a bit more
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interesting. The prosecution yesterday, actually, that was, yeah, it happened where the prosecution
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said the word delicate. This is a delicate measure in which the judge is entering into the fray.
00:51:49.860
That's basically an exact quote. So the judge entering the fray was delicate. And Tim Radcliffe also
00:51:55.940
emphasized, this is almost an exact quote, that the prosecution team has years of experience.
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Now, I can't say this with a lot of authority. I had a lawyer who advised me that he observed those
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proceedings. And he viewed that as an instance where, in a meta sense, the state is cautioning,
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chastising the judiciary and saying, don't overstep your bounds. This is what we want to do. And so far,
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again, remember, it was the judge's questioning that elicited that revelation that the phone had been
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wiped. And that can be potentially fatal or very damaging to the prosecution's pursuit of guilty
00:52:30.580
Isn't that interesting? I tell you, it takes a lot of chutzpah to say to a judge,
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you back down. We've got a lot of experience here. Don't you get all uppity. Uppity,
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she's a judge. She has been elevated to the bench. That's the phrase they use, elevated to the bench.
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And for a prosecutor to chastise a judge like that, I think that's a sign of desperation. Well,
00:52:52.100
listen, Robert, it's great to catch up with you. I'm so glad you're in there. You're making me think
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that maybe I should go back and take in a day or two of the trial if it's not as awful. If you say
00:53:01.700
the day I attended was the worst day in the whole trial. Well, I should come back there because it
00:53:06.420
sounds like it's getting exciting. Now, before I let you go, what is the future for this trial?
00:53:13.540
How many more days are expected? How many more weeks or months before we get to the end of it? Because,
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by the way, this is hanging over to Mary Leach's head. She can't work. She can't be in her home.
00:53:25.460
She has all these conditions on her still. How much longer is this whole circus going to take?
00:53:32.020
It's unclear. But a wise man once told me that the process is the punishment. So clearly,
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that's what's going on. The defense, sorry, the defendants are being punished regardless of
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whether they're found not guilty or not. We will have proceedings next week. I think Wednesday,
00:53:47.380
for sure. I did ask Greenspan yesterday whether he wants to introduce witnesses and things like
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that. He didn't want to disclose that. He doesn't want to reveal any of his strategy. So I can't say
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with any confidence or certainty what the time frame would look like for the defense to do its
00:54:03.380
counterarguments in the form of witnesses or testimony if they seek to do so. But we're definitely
00:54:07.380
going to be on for next week for a bit and definitely for some time after that somewhere,
00:54:12.340
maybe in November to be determined. Wow. Well, listen, thanks again for logging all that time
00:54:18.580
in court. And maybe I should go and sit there. Maybe it's not. Maybe I should show a little bit
00:54:23.060
more attention span. But, oh, I could not stand. I just couldn't stand a bureaucrat telling when I went
00:54:30.500
here and then I heard a horn honk and I got scared and I wanted to go for a coffee and I got I just I
00:54:36.180
I just couldn't stand it. I just had to walk out, Robert. So I thank you on behalf of all our viewers
00:54:44.500
for having the tenacity to live through this. I'm grateful to you. And I want to say there's two ways
00:54:52.420
people can help. As you know, the Democracy Fund is crowdfunding the legal fees for Tamara Leach. And
00:54:59.060
I've met the lawyer, Lawrence Greenspan, as you can hear. Robert talks to him every day. I really think
00:55:04.180
very highly of him. And I've gotten to know I probably know 30 lawyers who were involved in
00:55:09.700
things over the course of the pandemic. And I really think that Lawrence Greenspan is truly one
00:55:14.340
of the best. And God forbid, if I ever had a criminal matter, I would go to him. I'm just telling
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you, I really would. He's the top of his game, top of the profession. To help pay for that, we have a
00:55:26.340
website for the Democracy Fund called, I think it's called HelpTamera.com. And that is a donation,
00:55:34.500
not to Rebel News, but to the Democracy Fund. And to crowdfund the cost of Robert and our cameraman,
00:55:42.420
Lincoln Jay, who's also doing some great reporting while he's in town. That one is TamaraTrial.com,
00:55:48.740
because we incur costs on that side, too. So two different ways you can help. You can help Tamara and
00:55:53.700
her lawyer at HelpTamera.com. You can help Robert Lincoln and Rebel News at TamaraTrial.com.
00:56:00.740
We're operated this way. This is how we do business. That's how we do it. We're not the CBC. We don't
00:56:05.220
get $1.5 billion that way. We've been demonetized by YouTube. We have no big corporate advertisers.
00:56:10.260
So we rely on you. And thank you for helping. Robert, keep up the great work. I really like talking
00:56:14.740
with you. And I feel like you're really there on behalf of all Rebel viewers. And I'm just grateful
00:56:20.420
that you're there. You know what? You're going to have a book inside of you when this is all over
00:56:28.020
You really will. Anyways, great to see you. Thanks very much for your time.
00:56:32.580
Right on. There you have it. Robert Krejcik on the ground in Ottawa,
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just doing a great job out there. I feel like I've got a real update on what's going on. Well,
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there you have it. Stay with us. We have a big show today. And I was really glad to go deep with
00:56:56.500
Robert Krejcik because I hadn't had a catch up on the Tamera Leach trial in a while. We've been
00:57:00.260
talking so much about, you know, World War III really. And I'm becoming increasingly concerned
00:57:07.620
for the Canadian front of that war. It's just nuts to me that there are now protests in front of
00:57:15.380
Jewish kindergartens in Toronto. Here's a clip from the Miles Nadal JCC, which is not an Israeli
00:57:23.220
embassy. It's nothing to do with Israel. It's like a YMCA, but it's Jewish. You don't have to
00:57:28.820
be Jewish to go there. It's in the heart of Toronto. There's a kindergarten in there. There's
00:57:32.180
exercise and meeting rooms. It's just a place. It's Jewish, but you don't have to be. It's not like
00:57:36.980
a synagogue. There's a kindergarten in there. There have been religious services in there.
00:57:44.100
Hamas protesters are outside chanting their death to the Jews chants at a Jewish place
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in Toronto. Not an Israeli place, a Jewish place. Here's some more video.
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That's what I'm worried about. Israel, I think and I hope can take care of itself. But here in Canada,
00:58:16.820
who's taking care of us? On that note, I'll bid you a good weekend. On behalf of all of us here
00:58:24.020
at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.