Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Just like global warming, powerful people aren't actually scared of the virus. I have proof.

00:00:00.080 Hello, my Rebels. Today I want to talk to you about why powerful people break the lockdowns that they themselves enforce on you.

00:00:10.580 And it's a phrase I've used in the last week or so. It's not hypocrisy, I say. It's hierarchy.

00:00:18.620 And I'm going to give you a few examples from the United States, from the United Kingdom, from the world of global warming, and also from, obviously, lockdownism.

00:00:26.980 I'll take you through it, and I'll tell you the only person in the hierarchy, in fact, right near the top of it, who actually obeys the rules.

00:00:35.640 You might be surprised who it is. So I'd be very curious what you think about my monologue today. It's a little bit different.

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00:01:54.960 I was peer pressured into seeing Al Gore's movie, An Inconvenient Truth, 15 years ago.

00:02:05.360 I probably would have gone to see it just to know what it was and to know how to rebut it.

00:02:10.880 But I didn't like the fact that I went with someone who really liked it and took it at face value.

00:02:15.940 Al Gore won both an Oscar and a Nobel Prize for it, which I think tells you more about those organizations than it tells you about Al Gore in the movie.

00:02:29.760 But just like me, I don't think Al Gore actually took it at face value himself.

00:02:37.300 Even as he was making the movie, part of the movie, he had himself lovingly filmed flying back and forth across the ocean, all around the world, really, in first class, no less.

00:02:50.340 I'm not sure what he was thinking artistically to show, I don't know how tireless he was, to show that he was working while on a plane instead of snoozing or watching an in-flight movie.

00:03:02.580 I don't know what the message was supposed to be, but the message I got was either that he really wasn't worried about carbon emissions, I mean, flying first class,

00:03:13.080 or that he just felt whatever rules he wanted to implement on society wouldn't apply to him himself, obviously.

00:03:22.080 John Kerry, another Democrat, has the same attitude.

00:03:25.900 He's just too important to follow the rules for the little people. 1.00

00:03:29.540 On that issue, pollution, I understand that you came here with a private jet.

00:03:33.820 Is that an environmental way to travel?

00:03:36.580 If you offset your carbon, it's the only choice for somebody like me who is traveling the world to win this battle.

00:03:45.480 It's the only choice for someone like me.

00:03:50.080 That's obviously not true.

00:03:51.880 You can use the phone or use Zoom, or you don't even have to fly in a private jet.

00:03:56.460 But he's saying there are other things more important to him than reducing carbon emissions, like his own convenience,

00:04:04.040 like his own preferences, like his own politics, like his own self-fulfillment, his own self-image.

00:04:08.820 Now, why can't I say that?

00:04:10.000 Why can't you say that?

00:04:11.560 I love that phrase.

00:04:13.040 It's not hypocrisy.

00:04:14.320 It's hierarchy.

00:04:16.520 He's the boss.

00:04:17.680 You're not.

00:04:18.500 Know your place.

00:04:19.220 People like me, he said.

00:04:21.500 Al Gore is the boss.

00:04:22.540 You're not.

00:04:23.940 There's the ruling class, and you're not in it.

00:04:27.800 Here's Jeff Bezos.

00:04:29.700 He's the master, so he doesn't wear a mask.

00:04:33.460 His servant does.

00:04:35.180 All of these billionaires have their own rocket ship companies, you notice that, including Elon Musk, who I sort of like.

00:04:40.880 But there has literally never been anything in the history of the world as carbon-intensive as a rocket ship.

00:04:49.480 You can't power a rocket ship using energy from windmills or solar panels.

00:04:54.400 You can't store that much energy in a battery.

00:04:57.400 You need pure rocket fuel, the most carbon-intensive fuel ever, to break out of the Earth's gravitational pull.

00:05:06.180 There might be the odd scientific purpose to these vanity space missions, but come on, not really.

00:05:13.320 It's a bunch of middle-aged men who, if they were thousandaires, would be buying a Camaro.

00:05:21.300 If they were billionaires, maybe they'd buy a yacht.

00:05:25.760 But when you're worth, I don't know, $100 billion, you buy rocket ships, I guess?

00:05:31.420 Yeah, it's a bit weird watching a guy worth a quarter trillion dollars have a midlife crisis.

00:05:37.760 It's quite something to behold.

00:05:39.580 But my point is, they all use the language of environmentalism, especially Elon Musk and Tesla.

00:05:46.360 But that's because they know it sells, and they make money off it.

00:05:50.280 And Al Gore got a couple of awards out of it.

00:05:52.220 He couldn't be elected president, but he got his Nobel Prize.

00:05:55.920 These people don't actually follow the rules.

00:05:58.920 They don't take the train.

00:06:00.280 They fly in private jets.

00:06:02.180 I'm sure Elon Musk actually does own a Tesla.

00:06:05.020 I mean, he's the president of the company.

00:06:06.800 It would be weird if he didn't own one, but you don't think he actually drives a Tesla around, do you?

00:06:12.360 I mean, if he moves, it's an SUV with an entourage of armed bodyguards.

00:06:18.580 Hierarchy more than hypocrisy.

00:06:22.180 I mean, Bill Gates, a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein, the child rapist.

00:06:26.100 Bill Gates kept visiting Epstein long after he was convicted of pedophilia, long after he was a registered sex offender.

00:06:33.100 It's not just hypocrisy.

00:06:34.860 It's hierarchy.

00:06:36.040 Do you know what I mean by that?

00:06:37.460 Bill Gates is so rich and so powerful.

00:06:39.520 He can do whatever he wants, including consorting with a child rapist who ran a child prostitution ring.

00:06:46.600 And why shouldn't Bill Gates feel untouchable?

00:06:50.200 I mean, he's interviewed on TV almost every week.

00:06:53.360 And not a single reporter that I've seen has ever asked him genuine and probing accountability questions about what he did with Epstein.

00:07:01.600 What do you think he did with Epstein?

00:07:03.160 The closest I saw was this.

00:07:05.220 You know, I've said I regretted having those dinners.

00:07:08.580 And there's nothing, absolutely nothing new on that.

00:07:11.980 Is there a lesson for you, for anyone else looking at this?

00:07:17.360 Well, he's dead.

00:07:19.180 So, you know, in general, you always have to be careful.

00:07:23.900 Yeah, that's not a persuasive answer.

00:07:26.700 Well, he's dead yet.

00:07:28.060 No.

00:07:28.500 Or this question from Anderson Cooper.

00:07:31.320 You know, I had several dinners with him, you know, hoping that what he said about getting billions of philanthropy for global health through contacts that he had might emerge.

00:07:47.920 You know, when it looked like that wasn't a real thing, that relationship ended.

00:07:52.100 But it was a huge mistake to spend time with him, to give him the credibility of, you know, being there.

00:07:59.000 There were lots of others in that same situation, but I made a mistake.

00:08:04.840 Bill Gates' wife literally divorced him because of what he was doing with Epstein.

00:08:09.300 Gee, I wonder what that was.

00:08:10.980 But even this reporter didn't actually press him on what he was doing with Epstein.

00:08:16.760 Those two reporters being timid at best.

00:08:19.040 So, yeah, better than anyone else.

00:08:20.720 So, yeah, hierarchy.

00:08:22.580 Based on what?

00:08:24.140 Because they're rich?

00:08:25.480 Because they can pay off people, literally?

00:08:27.560 Pay off people?

00:08:29.600 You know, I saw this document fairly recently released.

00:08:34.380 It's a contract.

00:08:36.080 Epstein paid off a child that he raped.

00:08:40.860 Paid her off for half a million dollars U.S. to keep her quiet. 0.86

00:08:45.240 Now, the reason we see this document, it was recently released because Prince Andrew,

00:08:50.720 said this agreement protected him too.

00:08:55.500 Now, the court disagreed and now we see the document.

00:08:58.340 By the way, try finding a copy of this $500,000 payoff agreement online.

00:09:03.160 It's a public court record document.

00:09:06.800 It was surprisingly hard to find a copy of it.

00:09:09.940 And I think I'm pretty good at Googling.

00:09:11.780 I wonder why.

00:09:13.180 I wonder if it's a coincidence.

00:09:15.720 And the payoffs aren't just to rape victims like Ms. Jufri. 0.99

00:09:20.000 Bill Gates has given nearly a third of a billion dollars to journalists in grants.

00:09:25.620 That shuts up a lot of people who might ask him about Jeffrey Epstein, doesn't it?

00:09:30.400 Like I say, hierarchy.

00:09:33.020 And what are you going to do?

00:09:34.220 Are you going to, I don't know, take one of these people to court or something?

00:09:37.220 Well, he's dead, so.

00:09:38.980 Do you know who really does have hierarchy?

00:09:42.580 I mean, true, deep-rooted hierarchy in our country?

00:09:46.860 A living person who is not morally superior to you,

00:09:50.920 but who is actually legally and politically and constitutionally superior to you?

00:09:56.540 Well, take a look at your money.

00:09:58.700 Take a look at your stamps.

00:09:59.580 Take a look at your passport.

00:10:00.780 If you need some clues, the answer is Queen Elizabeth, Prince Andrew's mum.

00:10:05.700 Now, we forget about it, but every lawsuit in criminal court is called the Queen versus so-and-so.

00:10:11.720 Have you ever heard that?

00:10:12.440 R v. so-and-so.

00:10:14.080 The R stands for Regina, which is Queen in Latin.

00:10:19.640 We call it Regina when it's a city in Saskatchewan.

00:10:22.720 Crown prosecutors.

00:10:23.780 Whose crown do you think they're talking about?

00:10:26.500 Queen Elizabeth.

00:10:28.340 The phrase royalty is in a royalty payment.

00:10:31.240 If you mine gold or drill for oil, you pay a royalty,

00:10:34.300 because it's the Queen who owns the subsurface mineral rights in Canada, etc., etc.

00:10:39.440 The Queen.

00:10:41.600 Except for the Queen is not evading taxes like those rocket ship billionaires are that I mentioned. 0.99

00:10:48.220 She legally is exempt from paying taxes, but 30 years ago she decided she was going to pay them anyways as a sign of solidarity with the people.

00:10:59.040 The Queen has castles and whatnot, but they're hundreds of years old, but she does not live as lavishly as American president or the French president or the Russian president do. 0.99

00:11:11.560 She's actually quite modest by comparison.

00:11:14.340 I mean, compare her motorcade with Joe Biden's motorcade.

00:11:18.740 But in fairness, he has many more nurses and doctors than she does, and she's about to turn 96.

00:11:25.660 But let me show you the woman who truly has legal, constitutional, political, historical hierarchy over you and me as Canadian subjects to her.

00:11:36.840 Let me show you how she lives.

00:11:40.820 There she is at her own husband's funeral last year, wearing a mask, though there is no one near her.

00:11:50.380 And no one is near her at her husband's funeral.

00:11:55.280 Not her children, not her friends.

00:11:58.580 That is not by her choice.

00:12:00.720 That is because some cruel health bureaucrat said so.

00:12:05.880 And the Queen, who could literally, legally, constitutionally do whatever she pleases, including, I presume, fire those bureaucrats. 1.00

00:12:14.480 I mean, the legal name of the British government is Her Majesty's Government, if you can believe it.

00:12:20.560 She actually obeyed her servants, not like Bezos and Gates.

00:12:27.080 The Queen of the United Kingdom and Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Queen of Canada, the Queen of Australia, and a dozen other Commonwealth countries.

00:12:34.600 That Queen obeyed her foolish servants with her trademark dignity, even though she probably knew it was all bollocks, as they say over there. 1.00

00:12:45.520 But she did it because, for a woman of hierarchy, she strives to sympathize and care for the lowly as much as for the high.

00:12:53.900 And I tell you this because look at what is happening across in the UK right now.

00:13:01.320 Boris Johnson, while imposing harsh restrictions on the country, invited his own staff to a bring-your-own-booze party.

00:13:09.000 But of course he did, and of course it stayed secret for a year.

00:13:14.580 Because do you doubt that the entire media class in the United Kingdom has been going to parties, too?

00:13:20.500 While scorching mere citizens for doing, you know, private gatherings of more than six people.

00:13:27.740 What reporter could possibly criticize Boris Johnson for having a party when they themselves either went to that party or went to their own media party?

00:13:35.060 Literally, literally everyone in charge of implementing the lockdown in the UK broke the lockdown in the UK.

00:13:41.640 One of my favorite or least favorite stories, I don't know, is Professor Neil Ferguson, the chief doomsayer and lockdown activist in the UK.

00:13:49.880 He was caught having an affair running all over the city, breaking his own lockdown rules to have an affair.

00:13:56.920 He resigned, though the media still go to him for his wisdom and judgment.

00:14:00.680 But the health minister at the time, Matt Hancock, criticized Ferguson, which is sort of bold.

00:14:09.600 Because Hancock was also using the lockdown as an opportunity to have an affair with a lobbyist. 0.99

00:14:15.620 They were both cheating on their own families, caught by a surveillance camera.

00:14:20.200 I love that part of the story.

00:14:21.540 So imagine how many people in the ruling class have been going to secret parties or breaking the rules or having an affair.

00:14:29.540 Do they actually do any work over there between their parties and their affairs?

00:14:33.060 I'm going to say most of the ruling class has broken the rules.

00:14:37.340 Some of the stupider ones, like Matt Hancock, will condemn other rule breakers, hoping they themselves won't get caught.

00:14:44.320 But really, if you're caught, what does an additional charge of hypocrisy mean?

00:14:48.000 But that's my theory for why a party where dozens or even hundreds of people knew about it stayed secret for so long in a world of gossip because the entire political media establishment, the whole class, was in on it.

00:15:02.140 Or if not in in that particular party, they were in on another party, so they couldn't criticize.

00:15:08.760 Like this, an announcement today from Kate Josephs.

00:15:12.360 As people know, I previously worked in the Cabinet Office COVID Task Force, where I was Director General.

00:15:20.480 Let me cut to the chase.

00:15:22.140 She threw herself a huge going-away party, a boozy one, when the government was in lockdown.

00:15:30.380 Lockdown for the little people, that is, because hierarchy. 0.99

00:15:33.280 I am truly sorry, she says.

00:15:35.500 No, you're not, sister.

00:15:36.640 I don't think you are.

00:15:37.920 I think you're sorry you got caught.

00:15:39.540 Yes, I'm sure of that.

00:15:40.560 But if you're actually sorry about what you did, you could have come clean over the past year in any number of ways you didn't, you'd try to get away with it.

00:15:49.180 You're sorry you got caught, that's all.

00:15:51.580 Do you really think she'll suffer at all?

00:15:54.280 Guess again, she's now the CEO of the city of Sheffield.

00:15:57.720 Salary, £190,000.

00:16:00.200 That's $325,000 Canadian dollars a year.

00:16:04.940 She's in charge of enforcing the rules in Sheffield now. 0.62

00:16:07.560 Do you think she has obeyed the rules in Sheffield?

00:16:12.400 Do you really think she has?

00:16:14.260 You think so?

00:16:15.700 Here's what Pundit Piers Morgan said about all this.

00:16:19.140 He said,

00:16:19.420 The worst thing about all these illicit Downing Street parties is they will make COVID skeptics and anti-lockdowners feel vindicated in their suspicions that the virus was never that dangerous.

00:16:32.720 Or why would the people running the country all be ignoring the rules so brazenly?

00:16:38.100 No, Piers, that's not the worst thing about it.

00:16:40.340 That's the best thing about it.

00:16:42.480 It shows that, obviously, no one in power is actually worried about COVID.

00:16:49.900 Haven't been since very early days.

00:16:52.820 Two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:16:54.220 Well, nowhere in the free world that I know about was the curve not flattened.

00:16:58.580 Simply didn't turn into the zombie apocalypse that the fear monger said.

00:17:02.200 Everything after those first two weeks was theater.

00:17:04.180 We knew very early that masks didn't work, that the disease focused on seniors, and to be clear, fat seniors with underlying health problems.

00:17:13.840 It's about the same level of terrifying as the annual flu.

00:17:17.280 And the Omicron variant is actually less terrifying than the flu.

00:17:21.040 You know that, right?

00:17:22.820 You don't think that they know that?

00:17:25.500 Like Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio on a yacht.

00:17:29.560 They know it.

00:17:30.660 Like Boris Johnson and the rest of them at their garden parties.

00:17:34.940 They knew it.

00:17:36.340 Like Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates.

00:17:38.260 They know it.

00:17:40.760 You know it, too.

00:17:42.000 But you also know your place.

00:17:44.200 Your place is to obey the rules.

00:17:46.780 Yours is not to reason why.

00:17:48.120 That's left to the special people, the important people.

00:17:52.660 I think the queen knew it was all BS, too.

00:17:56.680 I think as she was sitting there by herself at her husband's funeral.

00:17:59.820 I think she knew it was BS.

00:18:02.500 And I think she must literally be the only person at the top of the hierarchy who morally deserves to be at the top of the hierarchy. 0.97

00:18:12.420 Stay with us for more.

00:18:13.340 Well, one of the main differences between the Canadian Constitution and the American Constitution,

00:18:30.900 when it comes to our civil liberties and our fundamental freedoms,

00:18:35.200 is that the very first section of Canada's Charter of Rights describes the way in which governments can infringe upon our liberties,

00:18:44.380 assuming that they will.

00:18:46.200 So the first paragraph of our charter says that there are limits that can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

00:18:54.780 And only then, after that caveat, does it list the so-called fundamental freedoms,

00:19:00.160 basically casting a pall on them.

00:19:02.500 The American Constitution, by contrast, says that the freedoms are the center of the document,

00:19:08.400 and any infringements have a high burden to overleap.

00:19:10.980 I think that's one reason why not a single substantial challenge to lockdown laws in Canada have succeeded over the last two years,

00:19:20.680 including shocking cases where you'd think it would be a slam dunk,

00:19:24.100 like the airport detention centers where healthy people were detained for three days with no cause, no warrant.

00:19:32.320 The Federal Court of Canada said that wasn't even a detention,

00:19:36.280 let alone one that had to be justified under Section 1.

00:19:39.120 Just incredible.

00:19:40.240 By contrast, our American friends love liberty just a little bit more.

00:19:43.360 And yesterday, they saw the fruits of it.

00:19:45.400 An important Supreme Court case striking down a national vaccine mandate.

00:19:51.520 Very big news.

00:19:52.400 Joining us now from Washington, D.C., is our friend Janine Younis,

00:19:56.200 litigation counsel at the new Civil Liberties Alliance.

00:19:59.260 What a victory.

00:20:00.140 Janine, I'm thrilled to hear it.

00:20:01.880 Can you tell our viewers in Canada what happened in the United States yesterday in the fight for freedom?

00:20:08.620 Yeah.

00:20:09.140 So the Supreme Court struck down the OSHA mandate.

00:20:12.080 Biden had an executive order that basically implemented four different vaccine mandates.

00:20:19.140 One is this one, the OSHA mandate, and that applies to private companies of 100 or more employees.

00:20:24.400 So just for one second, I'm so sorry to interrupt.

00:20:26.760 Up here, I think folks won't know that OSHA, that's occupational safety and health, right?

00:20:31.440 That's basically a federal rule that governs workplaces, right?

00:20:36.000 Right.

00:20:36.280 That's an agency, and so it's an agency that governs workplace safety and enacts rules and regulations designed to, you know, make workplaces safe for employees.

00:20:46.240 Oh, yeah.

00:20:46.620 I apologize for interrupting, but keep giving it.

00:20:49.660 Yeah.

00:20:50.460 This was actually the biggest one.

00:20:52.760 So this affected about 84 million Americans would be subject to this mandate.

00:20:56.260 And then the other three were federal employees had to get the vaccine, federal contractors, and then health care workers.

00:21:04.840 So the OSHA one, because, you know, this was important because it was the biggest one.

00:21:09.940 And basically what the court said was that OSHA was designed to address workplace hazards, not a disease that's sort of omnipresent in the world at this point.

00:21:17.860 So, you know, it's really about, like, getting access to a helmet if you're a construction worker or making sure that the office where you spend eight hours a day doesn't have asbestos.

00:21:25.980 And one way in which the court drew a distinction was to say, well, you can't take your vaccine away at the end of the workday.

00:21:31.880 You know, it's still there.

00:21:33.340 So this was a very important decision for Liberty.

00:21:37.280 I should be clear that this does not really create precedents for state mandates, which are usually based on sort of the state's 10th Amendment police power.

00:21:45.460 And this was really about executive overreach.

00:21:47.500 So this doesn't mean that all vaccine mandates are going away in the United States.

00:21:50.780 I saw a reference in the ruling to a tweet made by Joe Biden's chief of staff that this was a workaround, that making an executive order to tackle 84 million people was a workaround Congress, a way of avoiding that.

00:22:05.840 Obviously, that caught the judge's attention and it said, yeah, we know what you're doing here.

00:22:09.760 I think that's what you're getting at when it was more a technical win.

00:22:13.460 And what were the what were the other reasons that the court ruled this way?

00:22:19.360 And can you tell us what was the what was the division of the judges?

00:22:23.060 Because quite often it's a very narrow decision.

00:22:25.460 What was it?

00:22:26.480 How many judges were for the mandates and how many votes have struck them down, struck them down?

00:22:30.700 There was only three were actually for the mandates, the ones who are considered the liberal branch of the court.

00:22:36.660 That's Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor, who also made some shocking misstatements of fact at argument a week ago.

00:22:42.640 For instance, Justice Sotomayor said something like that there were hundreds of thousands or 100,000 kids in critical condition from COVID, which is just absurd.

00:22:51.500 That's that's not even close.

00:22:54.660 But as far as other aspects of the decision that were important, well, the major questions doctrine played a large role.

00:23:02.020 So that's that's a doctrine that says if Congress wanted something that's so big, you know, this is so big that this affects so many people, it's going to have massive economic implications.

00:23:12.580 Congress would have spoken directly to that.

00:23:14.640 So you can't just read this authority into the OSHA statute.

00:23:17.400 And so, again, this was like this was an important case for limiting executive overreach, for limiting agencies' ability to just do whatever they want and run roughshod over people's liberties.

00:23:28.720 Now, let me ask you a procedural question, because, again, I'm just so jealous of the way your law works here.

00:23:36.640 It's so slow.

00:23:38.340 There's no way that this matter would go directly to our Supreme Court.

00:23:41.920 You would first have to go to a local of the lowest level court, most likely lose.

00:23:48.020 Then maybe the next year you'd be in the court of appeal and then maybe the year after you'd be in the in the Supreme Court.

00:23:55.900 You know, basically, in fact, I don't think a single case in Canada has gone to the Supreme Court yet touching lockdownism.

00:24:04.180 How did this get to your Supreme Court so quickly?

00:24:06.920 Who were the plaintiffs or petitioners?

00:24:10.980 Was it states?

00:24:12.160 Was it governments?

00:24:13.220 Who had the standing to get in the front door of the Supreme Court?

00:24:17.780 So the plaintiffs in this case were employers.

00:24:20.880 So it's a lot of businesses.

00:24:22.120 So they were basically saying, we don't want to.

00:24:24.060 You're forcing us to implement this vaccine mandate.

00:24:26.460 It's going to harm us economically because people will quit.

00:24:28.980 We're going to have trouble replacing those people. 0.56

00:24:31.200 So that was the harm that was alleged.

00:24:32.960 It wasn't really about a personal harm because it wasn't so much people say, you know, it wasn't really about people not wanting to get the vaccine.

00:24:39.540 As far as the procedural aspect and how this got there so quickly.

00:24:42.660 Well, this was a preliminary injunction or an appeal from a preliminary injunction.

00:24:46.960 So that's a motion that you make when you need immediate relief in court.

00:24:51.500 And one of the things that you have to show you.

00:24:53.200 So you have to show a substantial likelihood of success on the merits.

00:24:56.160 So you basically have to make your case and then you have to show irreparable harm.

00:25:00.040 So irreparable harm typically can't be monetary damages, although there's sort of an exception when you're assuming the U.S. government.

00:25:07.320 But so courts have held around the country that it actually is irreparable harm to be forced to get a vaccine because you can't undo that.

00:25:15.220 And you might do that so that you don't lose your job, et cetera.

00:25:18.380 And so here the businesses were alleging the irreparable harm of, you know, basically being financially ruined.

00:25:24.420 In fact, the court didn't really address that issue.

00:25:28.400 So I think everybody sort of agreed on it.

00:25:30.420 But when you are able to make that showing, then things can happen very fast.

00:25:34.100 So typically this would start in the district court, which is the lowest federal court, and then go to the court of appeals, a circuit court of appeals, and then the Supreme Court if they agreed to hear it.

00:25:42.880 There's a peculiarity of the OSHA statute that it actually just starts in the court of appeals.

00:25:49.160 So this case originated actually in the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:25:53.540 So 84 million people have a reprieve.

00:25:57.500 Yes.

00:25:58.340 And now you say that's just a quick injunction, which I guess assumes that at a later date there might be a larger hearing.

00:26:05.880 But I'm guessing that this is effectively dead.

00:26:09.260 I mean, Joe Biden, is he going to try and pursue this and take it up with the same court a second time?

00:26:16.060 That's a really good question.

00:26:17.320 You know, typically injunctions, I mean, although technically they're not the end, you can, you know, continue with the underlying lawsuit.

00:26:23.580 Typically the court has said what it thinks, you know, because they're saying substantial likelihood of success on the merits.

00:26:28.740 They're saying, you know, it's basically a ruling.

00:26:32.440 So in this case, there were six judges who voted to strike down the mandate.

00:26:38.140 I believe, sorry, I'm pretty sure it was two.

00:26:42.360 Had it, no, that was the per curium opinion.

00:26:45.340 I'm sorry.

00:26:45.620 So a couple of them thought that the rule was too broad.

00:26:51.340 But you could have a similar rule if it was limited to workplaces where COVID spreads more quickly.

00:26:56.080 That was actually the per curium opinion, the main opinion.

00:26:59.740 The justices who wrote a concurring opinion, I think, didn't agree with that.

00:27:03.360 So Biden theoretically could come back with a narrower rule, say, and say like, oh, well, meat packing plants or a place like that where the virus spreads really readily, they have to implement this.

00:27:15.020 But I don't think that they will.

00:27:16.640 And one reason I don't think that they will is one of the problems the court seemed to have with this mandate was that it was done pursuant to its emergency, its ability to issue a regulation on an emergency basis.

00:27:27.680 And they seem to doubt some of that, like so the public doesn't have the opportunity to notice and to comment in these circumstances.

00:27:37.160 And so I think they don't want to go through the regular procedure because then once people give notice and comment, I'm not sure that it would actually go through.

00:27:45.440 So I'm guessing this is effectively dead, to put it, you know, to sum up.

00:27:49.140 I understand that one of the Supreme Court justices, one of Trump's appointments, Amy Coney Barrett, asked that question.

00:27:56.380 How long is an emergency?

00:27:58.420 When is it over?

00:27:59.240 If I'm if I'm recalling the headlines correctly, I think that's a good question that that can apply to so many parts of the lockdown.

00:28:05.880 So many things have been excused or justified because it's an emergency.

00:28:09.680 Well, we're now coming up.

00:28:10.940 It'll soon be the third year of the emergency.

00:28:13.320 It's like what Castro says, the perpetual revolution.

00:28:17.320 It ain't a revolution anymore.

00:28:18.660 It ain't an emergency anymore.

00:28:20.420 And everything from the emergency use authorization for the vaccines for the to other draconian powers that are not normally in even in Canada, let alone America.

00:28:31.940 I think that that's a good question.

00:28:33.940 How long is this emergency going to go on for?

00:28:37.020 Well, at this point, it looks like it can go on forever.

00:28:39.160 I mean, it doesn't seem that the use of the term emergency or exercising emergency powers has to do anything with the facts on the ground.

00:28:45.880 I mean, there's no emergency.

00:28:46.900 And, you know, where I live in D.C.

00:28:49.020 Now, the mayor just announced a vaccine passport program.

00:28:51.660 You have to show your vaccine card to go into a restaurant.

00:28:54.960 This technically is starting tomorrow, actually.

00:28:57.580 But some of the restaurants are already doing it.

00:28:59.480 And it's just I mean, this is sort of upending life as we know it.

00:29:03.920 These are all done under their emergency powers.

00:29:06.040 And it's it's unbelievable.

00:29:09.380 Well, maybe your Supreme Court or other courts will will have a ruling on that fundamental question of what is an emergency?

00:29:16.980 And is it really is it really one?

00:29:19.520 Let me you've been very generous with your time and I'm learning a lot.

00:29:23.520 You talked about the ruling for the occupational safety and health aspect.

00:29:29.000 But you said there were other factors.

00:29:31.100 There were health care workers.

00:29:32.200 That was one mandate.

00:29:34.460 And there were contractors.

00:29:36.220 I guess that means any company of a certain size doing business with the federal government.

00:29:40.620 Were those ruled on as well?

00:29:42.460 And how did they go?

00:29:44.580 So the health care workers mandate was also ruled on yesterday and there it went the opposite way.

00:29:50.580 Roberts joined the the dissenters in the other case.

00:29:57.340 So that and the judge basically what it was, was the judge is just it was sort of a workplace specific thing.

00:30:04.000 If you're working around the most vulnerable people in hospitals, et cetera, you have to be vaccinated.

00:30:07.680 I still don't agree that this makes sense, particularly when you were, you know, they don't make an exemption for people with natural immunity, which is a large portion of health care workers since they were on the front lines during COVID.

00:30:19.860 But, you know, this affects a much smaller number of people.

00:30:23.640 So I suppose if I had to choose the OSHA mandate, it's more important.

00:30:27.820 As for the others, there's the federal contractor mandate, which I think affects about 20 million Americans.

00:30:32.820 And that one has been stayed nationwide by a district court in Georgia.

00:30:38.400 So it's actually not technically in effect.

00:30:40.620 I anticipate that it probably won't go to the Supreme Court because that legal basis for enacting that mandate is even more tenuous.

00:30:48.560 So I'm guessing the government's not going to keep pushing it because they're going to be worried about creating bad law.

00:30:52.900 And then we have the federal employees.

00:30:55.100 So people who are actually employees of the federal government.

00:30:58.000 Our office has a lawsuit challenging that right now.

00:31:01.220 And there's actually been sort of there's a new development there because we hadn't been able to move for a preliminary injunction recently because the federal government said they weren't going to start disciplining people till after the new year.

00:31:16.540 But some of our plaintiffs just got letters threatening them with, you know, discipline and termination if they don't get the vaccine.

00:31:22.480 So we may be seeking some sort of emergency relief in that case.

00:31:25.480 I want to shift gears and I know this isn't your turf.

00:31:31.000 I mean, you've been very focused on American litigation.

00:31:33.800 That's your job.

00:31:34.720 But probably out of the corner of your eye, you've been following the case of one of the world's great tennis players, Novak Djokovic from Serbia, who applied for an exemption to get a visa and to play in the Australian Open.

00:31:47.020 And he filled out all the paperwork and there were panels that reviewed it and he got the exemption because he had COVID.

00:31:56.560 In fact, it was very public that he had it and he recovered from it and he had natural immunity and the state of Victoria, Australia approved it all.

00:32:06.120 But there was a bit of a media kerfuffle.

00:32:07.560 So when they when he landed, they revoked that and detained him.

00:32:12.280 But he he went to court and had any going back and forth.

00:32:17.440 It's very it's it's riveting.

00:32:19.820 But it shows that in many jurisdictions, natural immunity is a thing.

00:32:24.100 I know in the United Kingdom, in many instances, even in Israel, if you can show natural immunity, you're exempt from these forced jabs. 0.86

00:32:34.480 What's the state of natural immunity litigation and legislation in America?

00:32:41.140 Well, so far, there has been not much recognition of natural immunity.

00:32:45.700 I don't quite understand what's going on there.

00:32:48.260 And in fact, all of our cases so far have been brought on behalf of people who have natural immunity.

00:32:52.140 It sort of seems like the most logical people that you should grant vaccine exemptions to.

00:32:57.000 But the courts have been willing to defer basically to the agencies, the CDC and the FDA, who have been saying, if you're naturally immune, you should still get the vaccine.

00:33:07.020 It provides additional protection, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:10.260 So it's very frustrating.

00:33:12.060 There's you know, it's just very illogical.

00:33:14.400 In fact, I tweeted something about this the other day.

00:33:17.640 We have a client who's a doctor in Rhode Island who has natural immunity and who has had his medical license suspended or revoked because he didn't want to get the vaccine.

00:33:26.500 And he also had a history of Bell's palsy.

00:33:28.220 So he's worried about getting the vaccine.

00:33:30.640 What's ironic is because Rhode Island is facing a shortage of health care workers, they're actually allowing people who have active COVID infections to treat patients so long as they wear a mask.

00:33:40.440 But our naturally immune client, who also wears a mask when he practices, can't treat patients.

00:33:47.760 It's completely insane.

00:33:49.380 It's unbelievable.

00:33:50.280 They've taken away his right to practice medicine.

00:33:52.000 That's happening in Canada as well.

00:33:53.520 In fact, doctors who grant exemptions to patients are being investigated and suspended in Canada, too.

00:34:00.060 I mean, it couldn't be more on point with the Nuremberg Code and the lessons that were supposedly learned in the 40s from the Nazi doctors. 0.81

00:34:08.000 I got a question for you.

00:34:09.200 I want to end on a positive note.

00:34:11.120 I started by complaining that here in Canada we have not had a single substantive win in court.

00:34:17.800 Individual cases, quite often the authorities or the institutions bend the knee and quietly make an exception because they don't want to have a full-blown trial.

00:34:27.260 They don't want to set a precedent.

00:34:28.640 So there have been individual cases that have been settled.

00:34:31.780 It's true.

00:34:32.420 But there has been no resounding ruling like the one that happened yesterday in the OSHA case.

00:34:36.600 I know things are still bad there.

00:34:40.300 But I feel like what happened at the Supreme Court, especially this, I think you said it was six to nine.

00:34:45.940 I think that's a signal that the pendulum in the establishment itself is swinging back.

00:34:52.720 I heard that comment by Justice Sotomayor that there's 100,000 children in hospital.

00:34:58.860 Completely factually false.

00:35:00.920 First time I've ever seen a Democrat fact-checked by an official fact-checker.

00:35:05.480 But to me that shows that, you know, people in their 60s and 70s who are in official circles and sort of cloistered from the world, they're probably the most afraid of COVID of anyone in society because they're old themselves.

00:35:18.700 Maybe they're fat, maybe they have an underlying health condition.

00:35:22.360 They're part of the establishment.

00:35:24.160 They're part of the inside club.

00:35:27.540 They're naturally compliant rule enforcers.

00:35:30.460 Like I think there's no one in the world who would be more sympathetic to upholding a mandate than a 70-year-old Supreme Court judge.

00:35:38.200 I mean just everything about their life would say, yeah, let's be careful, abundance of caution.

00:35:45.640 So if even six out of nine Supremes say, nah, this has gone too far, to me that's a sign that the whole of society, including important parts of the establishment, have realized there was an overreach.

00:35:59.960 Are you encouraged?

00:36:01.600 Do you feel some hope?

00:36:02.840 Do you think that maybe you're past the watershed, that it's going to get better now, or do you still think it's going to be tough going?

00:36:10.940 I think it's going to be tough going in blue jurisdictions, democratic strongholds.

00:36:16.440 I'm actually really not very hopeful.

00:36:18.820 I mean this just goes on and on.

00:36:22.340 So New York was the first to implement a vaccine passport program basically where you have to show vaccine card and ID to get into anything indoors, theater, restaurant, gym.

00:36:32.180 It was a complete failure, complete in every way.

00:36:36.060 It's been economically harmful.

00:36:37.920 It's harmed the people of New York.

00:36:39.460 Tourists don't want to go there.

00:36:40.780 And instead of learning a lesson from that, all of these other cities, Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Paul now, D.C. are doing the same thing.

00:36:49.700 So I think what's happening is that there's just more and more of a divide, and it's sort of hardening people's positions.

00:36:55.820 So, you know, so the federal, sorry, this decision that affects the federal mandate is good, especially for people who live in red states.

00:37:04.240 But I don't, it's not really helping with the, you know, with the daily lives of people who live in blue jurisdictions.

00:37:09.360 I really think your best bet if you want to be free is to move to Texas or Florida or something like that.

00:37:14.300 Yeah, well, we all saw the data of states people are leaving and states people are moving to, and it really tracks this COVID lockdown legislation.

00:37:25.460 Same thing in Australia, by the way, that state of Victoria has had a net out migration of people.

00:37:31.760 I have one last question.

00:37:32.700 I know I've kept you longer than we said we would.

00:37:34.960 I have a, I notice that the high priests and priestesses of the COVID lockdownists have started to make concessions that, you know, a few months ago would have got you banned from Facebook or Twitter for saying. 0.64

00:37:52.640 Even Albert Bourla, the head of Pfizer, said the first two jabs don't really protect you from Omicron.

00:37:58.680 You see the CDC and the FDA changing their thoughts on everything from masks that have been cultishly followed for over a year and quarantines.

00:38:10.640 Like, I feel like, and even their narrative of what we have to live with COVID, we have to get used to it as endemic.

00:38:17.380 I sense that they feel a reckoning is coming at the ballot box in the midterms, and I sense that that may sober them up.

00:38:27.820 So you're pessimistic about the blue jurisdictions, but I think that the fact that some of the keepers of the narrative are saying, hey, maybe let's just pump the brakes a bit, that tells me they think that a reckoning is coming.

00:38:41.300 That's me in Canada.

00:38:42.360 I don't know American politics, and I know that's, I mean, you're a lawyer, not a politician, but do you think that's a factor?

00:38:49.040 Do you think that even in blue states, people are just going to say, I'm sick of schools being banned?

00:38:54.160 I'm sick of masks.

00:38:55.620 I'm sick of vax passports.

00:38:56.980 I'm just sick of this whole thing.

00:38:58.520 Democrats out.

00:39:01.600 Yeah.

00:39:02.380 So to an extent, I do think that's happening.

00:39:04.500 And I obviously, you know, as a former Democrat, I hear from people every day who, you know, are changing their minds as this goes on and on and on.

00:39:10.840 And in New York City, for instance, they're actually trying to mandate N95s for children now, which health care workers say are, you know, suffocating, impossible to tolerate for long periods of time.

00:39:21.300 And we're putting them on little kids who face no risk of this disease with, you know, readily available vaccines for those who want them.

00:39:27.920 And, you know, they increase the chance of severe symptoms of COVID or sorry, decrease the chance of severe symptoms of COVID.

00:39:32.600 But it's just it's insanity.

00:39:34.780 So I do.

00:39:36.700 Yeah, I do think that there may be some changes at the ballot box.

00:39:41.440 The problem is, I think a lot of these politicians like Mayor Bowser in D.C., you know, she's going to get reelected. 1.00

00:39:47.600 She doesn't have to worry about it.

00:39:48.720 The mayor in New York, you know, if they if they're not about to be held democratically accountable, then they're just basically behaving like tyrants.

00:39:56.140 Yeah. Well, it's so good to catch up with you.

00:39:59.320 I follow you on Twitter.

00:40:00.680 I'm a fan of your organization.

00:40:02.240 I love the name of it, the New Civil Liberties Alliance.

00:40:06.000 Janine, you and the rest of your team and other great litigators around America who have taken the place left by groups like the ACLU once upon a time, they would have fought against this tyranny.

00:40:19.080 And I'm just so glad you're doing it.

00:40:21.000 And hopefully we'll have some wins up in Canada one day soon.

00:40:24.460 We sure could use them.

00:40:25.280 Great to see you again.

00:40:26.220 Thank you.

00:40:27.160 Thank you so much.

00:40:28.280 All right.

00:40:28.620 There you have it.

00:40:29.060 Janine Yunus.

00:40:29.600 Stay with us.

00:40:30.180 More ahead.

00:40:41.060 Hey, welcome back.

00:40:41.980 Your viewer feedback on Stephen Gilboa.

00:40:44.780 M. Larson 69 says.

00:40:48.560 Reshame.

00:40:49.760 You mean destroy it worse than it already is.

00:40:52.580 What does an eco-terrorist know about the economy?

00:40:55.280 Other than what his puppet masters tell him to do.

00:40:58.520 Well, you know what?

00:40:59.540 I think that a lot of Marxists, a lot of communists just believe in burning things down.

00:41:05.320 They haven't really thought through the hard part.

00:41:08.080 I think it's like any Marxist approach to things like art or architecture.

00:41:12.680 I once heard something that really stuck with me, that everyone is a conservative about the things they know.

00:41:19.840 So let's say you're a craftsman.

00:41:21.900 Let's say you're a mason, a bricklayer.

00:41:24.440 You know about laying bricks.

00:41:26.780 Well, how is that a conservative thing?

00:41:28.920 Well, you know what works and you don't because you're a craftsman and you've been doing it for, you know, it's a trade, but it's also in a way an art.

00:41:36.620 And how do you put the mortar in and how do you do this and how do you do that?

00:41:40.860 And let's say you've been doing it for 20 years.

00:41:42.780 You know it works and you know it doesn't.

00:41:44.360 And you know what you were like when you were a junior and the mistakes a beginner could make.

00:41:47.820 And that's why there's an apprenticeship program.

00:41:49.640 But let's say someone comes in and says, no, I don't want to do it that way.

00:41:54.080 I want to do it a different way.

00:41:56.180 But you haven't mastered the craft yet.

00:41:59.200 So you know what you don't like, but you have no clue about how to, you don't even want to tear down, but you have no clue about how you want to build it.

00:42:06.480 People are conservative about the things they know the most about because they know about them.

00:42:13.060 And I think that the radicals, the communists, as I said, in Trudeau's cabinet have one thing in common.

00:42:20.560 They've never actually done something.

00:42:23.420 Catherine McKenna, luckily, no longer in cabinet.

00:42:26.180 She never did anything.

00:42:27.420 She was just part of a jet set, you know, photo op, go to conferences elite.

00:42:32.680 Stephen Gilboa, his whole life was an activist.

00:42:34.800 Has he never done anything?

00:42:36.080 Can you name for me anyone in a significant position in cabinet who was actually a serious builder, entrepreneur, leader, someone who actually knows something about something?

00:42:48.160 Trudeau himself flipped it around.

00:42:50.580 You know, he was a ski bum and he taught for a few months here and there.

00:42:54.640 No one there actually knows anything about anything other than they want to tear it down.

00:43:01.780 Someone named The World Went Crazy 2021 says, I think it is quite despicable what Ronald McDonald House is doing.

00:43:09.980 That baby needs that help.

00:43:11.400 So does their family.

00:43:12.800 So tired and disappointed in this world.

00:43:14.780 Can't believe all the things that are going on.

00:43:16.680 Nothing's being done about it.

00:43:18.720 They need to leave these poor people alone. 1.00

00:43:21.000 Let them stay there with their baby while he gets his treatment. 0.95

00:43:25.160 I think everybody needs to boycott McDonald's.

00:43:29.140 Well, and that's the thing.

00:43:30.160 I mean, Ronald McDonald House is a worthy charity.

00:43:32.880 They've just made a disastrously wrong decision.

00:43:35.620 I'm not sure if cutting them off is the right thing.

00:43:38.000 I think they need an attitude readjustment.

00:43:40.000 I don't know how that would come about.

00:43:42.880 Yeah, I mean, and that's that we see that in the Salvation Army as well.

00:43:46.840 We see that even nurses, doctors, paramedics literally firing life-saving people because they didn't get a jab.

00:43:54.160 And as we talked to Janine today, why are you firing people of natural immunity that's in many cases as strong, if not stronger, than vaccine immunity?

00:44:05.000 Roddy998 says, I won't be contributing to the Ronald McDonald House candidate again.

00:44:10.000 This is sad and despicable.

00:44:11.720 Well, I can understand you feel that way.

00:44:14.140 I mean, they're literally punishing this family.

00:44:17.100 Well, that's our show for today.

00:44:18.740 Until next week, on behalf of all of us here at Rubble World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:44:23.760 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:44:24.840 And let me leave you with an interview that our Alexa Lavois did with Maxime Bernier in Quebec.

00:44:31.360 Good night.

00:44:31.720 So, here's Alexa Lavois for Revenues. 1.00

00:44:34.700 I'm right now at the Placias Cartier, here in Montreal.

00:44:38.540 There's a big event that will start against health measures.

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00:47:16.100 Moi, j'ai fait les deux premiers vaccins. Je ne voulais pas les faire. Au final, je les ai faits. Ma famille n'est pas vaccinée. Malheureusement, on veut quitter le pays, mais ma mère et ma soeur ne sont pas vaccinées, donc ils ne veulent même pas prendre l'avion pour quitter. Si c'était possible et très facile de quitter la province, je l'aurais fait. Ça fait longtemps.

00:47:36.760 Bien, on ne peut pas bouger, anyway. Ça va être difficile de changer de province si on n'est pas vacciné. Mais oui, c'est dans nos pensées éventuelles.

00:47:44.320 Je suis en mesure de faire des déplacements vers les États-Unis avec ma famille.

00:47:49.320 J'y ai pensé et j'y pense encore.

00:47:52.600 Quelle province seriez-vous?

00:47:54.380 En Floride.

00:47:57.280 Ontario.

00:47:58.540 Probablement plus vers l'ouest, l'Alberta ou la Colombie-Britannique.

00:48:03.440 Ce n'est pas encore décidé, mais le sud de Costa Rica.

00:48:07.340 Vous avez un premier ministre au Canada et un premier ministre au Québec qui divise la population et fait en sorte de dire aux gens qui ne sont pas vaccinés qu'ils sont des mauvais citoyens.

00:48:21.360 Pour nous, il n'y a pas de mauvais ou de bons citoyens.

00:48:23.760 Est-ce que vous pensez que si on est en mesure sanitaire en ce moment, c'est la faute des non-vaccinés?

00:48:28.920 Oui, absolument. Dans mon opinion, oui.

00:48:31.220 Non, je ne pense pas à ça. Pas du tout.

00:48:34.460 J'ai l'impression que soit le gouvernement ne sait pas quoi faire et cherche à qui mettre la faute, soit elle juste nous montre.

00:48:42.740 Écoute, moi, je fais quelque chose, je vous impose les mesures.

00:48:45.680 Mais je n'aime pas la rhétorique qui me fait sous-entendre votre question.

00:48:49.920 Je n'aime pas la division de la population en deux.

00:48:52.280 Non, non, je ne crois pas que c'est à cause des non-vaccinés.

00:48:55.800 Non, je crois que c'est à cause du gouvernement, parce qu'il n'y a pas assez de travailleurs dans les secteurs.

00:49:03.660 C'est pour cela. Ce n'est pas pour la santé.

00:49:06.020 Non.

00:49:06.480 Et vous?

00:49:07.460 Moi, je ne suis pas aussi catégorique.

00:49:09.600 Je ne pense pas que c'est à 100% à cause des vaccinés.

00:49:12.160 Mais je pense aussi que ce n'est pas une raison pour ne pas se faire vacciner.

00:49:15.900 Mais si ça aide même une personne à ne pas mourir, moi, je suis prête à le faire.

00:49:20.900 Je suis vaccinée. Je vais faire ma troisième dose aussi.

00:49:23.780 Non, je ne pense pas que c'est à cause des non-vaccinés.

00:49:25.840 Je pense que chacun a le choix de se vacciner ou pas. 0.92

00:49:28.940 Et je pense que tant qu'on prend des mesures sanitaires adéquates,

00:49:35.120 je pense que vacciner ou pas, ça revient un peu au même.

00:49:38.700 Avec la mesure de la SAQ et de la SQDC, est-ce que ces deux mesures-là vont affecter votre mode de vie?

00:49:46.000 Oui. Pas directement, mais plus dans le sens que le gars a annoncé qu'il va y avoir des mesures encore plus pires qui s'en viennent.

00:49:54.100 C'est déjà planifié.

00:49:55.740 Puis il dit que c'est des mesures qui vont être très dérangeantes.

00:49:58.460 Ça fait qu'on sait qu'ils s'en vont vers les épiceries et les trucs de même.

00:50:02.040 Ce n'est pas difficile d'acheter de l'alcool ou d'acheter de la drogue sur le marché noir.

00:50:06.580 Ça ne sera pas un problème.

00:50:09.200 Anyway, ça me concerne plus ou moins.

00:50:11.820 Ce n'est pas ça ma bataille.

00:50:13.880 Du tout.

00:50:16.000 On ne somme pas.

00:50:16.740 Donc, c'est vraiment juste pour pousser les gens à continuer à faire ce vaccin, contrôler les gens encore plus.

00:50:23.940 Donc, je trouve que c'est immoral.

00:50:26.780 Un peu, oui, mais on sait faire autrement.

00:50:28.280 Moi, je n'ai pas besoin du tout d'aller à la SAQ ou à la SQDC.

00:50:31.560 Si il y a la SAQ et la SQDC qui sont ouverts, c'est bien.

00:50:34.440 Si ce n'est pas ouvert pour moi, c'est pareil, complètement pareil.

00:50:37.940 Pensez-vous que les non-vaccinés devraient rester en cabanée chez eux avec seulement possibilité de livraison?

00:50:43.980 Pas du tout, non, pas du tout. Absolument.

00:50:47.040 Je ne sais pas. Je ne sais pas, honnêtement.

00:50:48.980 C'est un peu excessif parce que si on met des masques, même si on n'est pas vacciné, on n'est pas nécessairement dangereux pour les autres.

00:50:59.480 Si on ne met pas les autres en danger, si on suit les consignes, je pense que c'est un peu excessif de garder les gens chez eux.

00:51:05.720 Pensez-vous que le système de santé ne devrait pas être autorisé aux non-vaccinés?

00:51:09.520 Oui, personnellement, oui.

00:51:11.900 Si tu ne veux pas le vaccin, je ne pense pas que tu devrais aller aux hôpitals.

00:51:16.960 C'est un logique ou l'autre. On ne peut pas faire les deux.

00:51:19.340 Ce n'est pas la vaccination qui va nous sortir de la crise.

00:51:21.920 C'est l'immunité collective qui va nous sortir de cette crise-là.

00:51:25.220 Et on voit qu'on approche à la vraie immunité collective maintenant.

00:51:29.400 Ce n'est pas en brimant des droits des gens qu'on va réussir à naquer la pandémie.

00:51:35.540 Que pensez-vous des chroniqueurs de tous les journaux qui font des articles haineux sur les non-vaccinés?

00:51:41.780 Ils vont payer le bille. 0.85

00:51:43.340 C'est de la propagande. C'est de la propagande pure et simple.

00:51:48.660 Franchement, moi, c'est arrivé à un stade où je ne peux même plus aller sur la presse ou sur n'importe quel site parce que ça me met hors de moi.

00:51:57.300 Ça n'a pas sa place. Ils nous traitent comme des déchets.

00:52:03.160 On est des humains à même titre que n'importe quel humain. C'est de la discrimination au cutoff.

00:52:09.160 C'est de la psychose. C'est une psychose.

00:52:12.160 C'est pareil comme les nœuds des années 1930.

00:52:15.400 Les gens perdent la tête. 0.96

00:52:17.440 Il y a autant de non-vaccinés qui sont malades, sinon plus.

00:52:21.280 Tout le monde qui est non-vacciné le voit.

00:52:24.080 C'est de la psychose. C'est une psychose collective.

00:52:27.020 C'est une honte parce qu'on est des citoyens comme les autres.

00:52:30.880 On paye nos taxes, on travaille, on provide pour la société comme tout le monde.

00:52:35.440 Et oui, c'est une honte parce que voilà, c'est une honte.

00:52:38.080 Je ne pense pas que ça va nécessairement servir à grand-chose.

00:52:40.600 Je ne pense pas que si on est haineux contre Kaltan, ça va les encourager à se faire vacciner justement.

00:52:45.460 Donc, ce n'est pas nécessairement très utile.

00:52:49.640 Et ça met les gens encore plus dans un état négatif qu'ils sont probablement déjà.

00:52:55.340 Le groupe des non-vaccinés, pour eux, c'est un bouc émissaire.

00:52:58.740 Mais les vrais responsables de tout ça, le bouc émissaire, c'est les politiciens actuellement.

00:53:03.200 L'élite des politiciens qui, pendant 20 ans, n'ont rien fait pour changer et modifier le système de santé au Québec et au Canada,

00:53:11.220 qui est un système socialiste qui ne fonctionne pas, ce n'est pas à cause des non-vaccinés.

00:53:15.900 Pensez-vous vraiment que le vaccin fonctionne?

00:53:19.700 Oui, je pense que oui.

00:53:21.540 Moi, je suis pour le vaccin.

00:53:23.400 Et pensez-vous que la troisième dose est la porte de sortie pour sortir de tout ça?

00:53:27.940 La troisième dose, je fais confiance aux scientifiques.

00:53:34.840 Je pense que oui.

00:53:35.880 Oui?

00:53:36.300 Oui.

00:53:37.240 Et puisqu'on sait que dans le monde entier, la couverture vaccinale est très minimale,

00:53:43.160 on sait que ça va créer quand même d'autres variants.

00:53:45.060 Et on sait que l'homnicron infecte autant les non-vaccinés que les vaccinés.

00:53:49.780 Est-ce que vous êtes toujours du même avis que la troisième dose et la porte de sortie?

00:53:54.020 Selon moi, oui.

00:53:55.200 Oui?

00:53:55.660 Oui.

00:53:55.900 Si on veut vacciner notre peuple, puis si on veut que c'est obligatoire,

00:54:00.880 ça ne fait aucun sens qu'on ne veut pas partager nos vaccins.

00:54:04.700 Parce que c'est vraiment une culture que les gros pays du monde développés

00:54:09.140 ne veulent pas partager les vaccins avec les autres gens du monde

00:54:12.980 qui sont moins développés et moins de ressources.

00:54:16.340 Donc, si on veut obliger les gens de ce pays à le faire,

00:54:19.960 puis on ne partage pas, ça ne sert à aucun point.

00:54:22.900 Parce qu'on ne va pas avoir, on va avoir un nouvel variant dans un couple d'années, un année-ci.

00:54:28.380 Et combien de doses vous êtes prêts à prendre?

00:54:30.540 Moi, je serais prête à prendre la troisième dose, mais après, je ne pense pas que j'irais plus loin.

00:54:34.420 Et là, on veut faire de la ségrégation et on commence à mettre dans la tête des gens que ça serait normal d'empêcher un Québécois de se faire soigner à l'hôpital

00:54:43.500 parce qu'il a décidé de ne pas être vacciné.

00:54:46.480 Lorsqu'on commence un discours comme ça, il n'y a pas de limite.

00:54:50.420 Est-ce qu'on va dire que quelqu'un qui est obèse et qui est diabétique ne devrait pas avoir de soins de santé

00:54:56.420 parce qu'il ne prend pas soins de sa santé ou qu'il ne fait pas attention?

00:54:59.940 Non, il faut respecter les choix de chacun et tout le monde est payé de par leurs impôts

00:55:04.320 et tout le monde devrait avoir le droit de profiter de ces soins de santé-là s'ils en ont besoin.

00:55:09.880 Donc, la marche vient de terminer juste ici à Place-Jacques-Cartier.

00:55:23.340 On a interrogé les deux côtés de l'histoire.

00:55:25.900 Ça fait intéressant de savoir leurs opinions à ce sujet.

00:55:29.900 J'espère que vous avez aimé ce reportage.

00:55:32.920 Et si vous voulez, continuez à nous suivre.

00:55:35.720 Plein d'autres sont à suivre.

00:55:39.880 Donc, comme vous le savez, Robin News est le seul média qui couvre sur le terrain ce qui se passe en ce moment.

00:55:46.460 Le seul qui démontre l'autre côté de l'histoire.

00:55:49.280 Oui, comme vous le savez, c'est grâce à vous qu'on peut avancer.

00:55:53.780 S'il vous plaît, allez sur LockdownReport.com, faites un don et aidez-nous à pouvoir avancer

00:55:59.800 et à démontrer ce qui se passe ici à Québec.

00:56:02.500 Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada

00:56:32.500 Merci.

00:56:33.500 Merci.

Rebel News Podcast - January 15, 2022

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