Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Klaus Schwab's WEF sets the stage for a battle between sovereignty and 'One World' socialism

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00:00:30.000 as you can tell i am far away from home i'm in the swiss alps a ski town called davos it is the 0.90

00:00:36.820 annual conclave of the world economic forum where people come from around the world to meet and greet

00:00:42.880 with the elite they're here to do deals many of them secret some of them public by deals i don't

00:00:49.060 just mean economic financial deals i mean political deals ideological deals because the world economic

00:00:55.040 forum is very much an ideological organization i think if i had to define that ideology globalism

00:01:01.200 would be the first one i think the second unfortunately would be socialism and i don't

00:01:07.480 say that as an insult but rather a description of what klaus schwab the founder and owner of the

00:01:14.620 world economic forum believes and i say owner because he owns it it's not an international

00:01:19.880 ngo it's not a non-profit it's not a public entity he owns it he started it's his private

00:01:27.440 organization but i want to tell you about his ideology besides globalism he talks about

00:01:34.480 stakeholder capitalism and he talks about stakeholder decision making for public policy what does he mean

00:01:41.540 by that because don't we already have shareholder decision making for a company and don't we already

00:01:47.060 have elections a democratic sovereign elections in countries to run a country so when he talks about

00:01:54.420 stakeholder capitalism or stakeholder democracy he's talking about other groups making the decisions

00:02:01.800 besides shareholders and wouldn't you know it those other groups are the people that he happens

00:02:07.640 to know and like and sell access to and hobnob with and rub shoulders with every year here in davos

00:02:14.580 he seeks to replace private property and local sovereignty with globalist socialism and i think he's

00:02:23.320 generally careful about how he talks but actually he reveals his thinking all the time not just his own

00:02:30.600 comments but those of those around him one of the most uh shocking is uval noah harari sort of his

00:02:37.680 futurist and muse i just can't get over some of the things he said including that the future will

00:02:42.820 turn many people useless he calls us useless eaters who have nothing to do other than play video games

00:02:50.240 and do drugs remember these comments and then the big political and economic question of the 21st century

00:02:56.500 will be what do we need humans for or at least what do we need so many humans for do you have an answer

00:03:03.660 um at present the best guess we have is keep them happy with drugs and computer games if you're not

00:03:11.700 part of the revolution fast enough then you probably become become extinct once you know how to produce

00:03:18.220 bodies and brains and minds so cheap labor in africa or south asia or wherever it simply counts for

00:03:24.360 nothing again i think that the biggest question in maybe in economics and politics of the coming decades

00:03:30.320 will be what to do with all these useless people i don't think we have an economic model to for that

00:03:38.340 my best guess which is just a guess is that uh food will not be a problem uh with that kind of

00:03:46.740 technology you will be able to produce food for to feed everybody the problem is more uh boredom

00:03:53.340 and how what to do with them and how will they find some sense of meaning in life when they are

00:03:59.280 basically meaningless worthless my best guess at present is a combination of drugs and computer

00:04:06.780 games anyways back to davos i want to show you something that i think is just so symbolic over

00:04:12.240 there is a fairly large and impressive church and it's actually a real church that's really used in fact

00:04:19.000 you can see um it has some quotes on the wall one of them's ripped right now so it's actually a church

00:04:26.780 that is in use but according to a report i read and i haven't been able to chase it down because my

00:04:32.700 german is very weak that church let itself be rented out for the week by file coin and cnbc for 1.4

00:04:43.720 million dollars now i want to have a drop of skepticism here because i haven't been able to

00:04:48.380 chase that uh report down all the way but it seems to ring true that church has been turned into

00:04:55.720 well look at the audacity they call it the file coin sanctuary well excuse me i had to break away

00:05:03.420 min monologue to run and chase a vvip for one of our interviews at wefreports.com i say that

00:05:11.040 to explain the darker sky and you know it's very exciting on this promenade you never know who's

00:05:16.900 going to walk by some people walk by many times john carrey for example we scrummed him i think

00:05:21.900 three times um but i want to get back to talking about that church over there now i haven't had it

00:05:27.600 i haven't been able to do my due diligence on that story because of the language barrier and i

00:05:32.080 could that be true i think it could be but how astonishing that a church would rent itself out for a

00:05:39.700 i mean i suppose i'm 1.4 million dollars could be enough for to pay the church's bills for the

00:05:45.980 entire year and maybe for um and maybe actually it's uh it only skipped one sunday and the church

00:05:54.520 met somewhere else and they thought this is a great idea financially could be uh as i told you the

00:05:59.740 other day the airport the private jet airport that serves davos the one week of davos 150 private jets

00:06:07.440 per day they told me that's the day that's the week rather that pays for their whole year so it's

00:06:13.360 really incredible amount of wealth and power around here is quite something in fact sometimes when you

00:06:18.760 walk around on the streets you hear snippets of conversation as you pass by a pedestrian on the

00:06:23.000 street and you uh you just hear a few words here and a few words there i want to tell you hand to god

00:06:28.060 a couple of words that i heard on the street one was 400 million dollar profit and another was 300

00:06:35.400 million dollar loan or something like that that's the scale and of of things the deals that are being

00:06:42.020 done here and who knows maybe it's just puffery maybe it's just braggadocio maybe it's not true but

00:06:47.620 it is true that blackrock has 10 trillion dollars of assets under management and they're major sponsors

00:06:54.700 here and so if that's true for one major sponsor imagine the money and the power that is concentrated

00:07:01.080 in this town and so it's a very interesting thing to camp out here and to do citizen journalism for a

00:07:07.920 week because you're like a skunk at a garden party everyone else is fancy or wants to be fancy and by 0.80

00:07:15.000 being an unaccredited journalist scrumming people on the streets you are most definitely not fancy now

00:07:22.620 some people were very friendly let me show you um an excerpt of a very friendly interview i had

00:07:29.760 with a former secretary general of the united nations can you imagine little old me bumping

00:07:35.400 into a secretary general the united nations former on the street and i just asked some questions that

00:07:40.520 came to mind like which is more powerful the un or the world economic forum which is

00:07:45.980 more democratic here here's a taste of that hi it's nice to see you here are you enjoying the world

00:07:52.880 economic forum of course always which is more powerful the united nations or the world economic

00:07:59.180 forum well these are two different baskets i can't say the united nations is less powerful than the world

00:08:08.640 economic forum who is richer the world economic forum or the united nations well un is here also i mean

00:08:15.800 un is contributing to the world it's a partnership isn't it of course it is it is here's a question for

00:08:21.520 could i ask you a tough question which is more democratic the un or the world economic forum

00:08:28.880 well un i was the president of the general assembly i know it's the uh i think the largest uh democratic

00:08:36.560 platform in the world where every country is represented well the economic forum is of course in its

00:08:42.800 capacity for many years is also showing this democratic and uh giving uh space to every

00:08:51.360 country in the world uh standards and i think we shouldn't compare the two they are helping each

00:08:59.440 other and this combination is helping the world peace and stability can i challenge you on that because

00:09:06.720 in the last few years we've seen more war and more death and more terrorism and there's terrible

00:09:13.200 instability yeah has the united nations been helpful or harmful or useless well unfortunately the

00:09:22.320 structure of the united nations because of the veto powers in the security council is not allowing the

00:09:28.800 united nations to be a problem solving mechanism it has uh uh in education humanitarian aid a lot of uh very good

00:09:39.920 health health health uh all these institutions adjacent to the un is doing wonderful work 200 000

00:09:46.880 people there but when it comes to politics uh the security council is blocking all the uh possible

00:09:55.520 peace solutions so the danger here is if we can solve the security council problem then countries

00:10:03.200 individually are trying to find solutions to their regional or political problems and this is the danger

00:10:09.920 we couldn't have been friendlier we had a very friendly walk and talk and afterwards he said

00:10:14.000 we're friends yeah it could be but um you know he didn't have anything to hide he uh is no longer

00:10:20.960 the secretary general of the un he's just a businessman and i you know i just had questions for him to

00:10:26.240 compare the wef and the un neither of which is a particularly democratic institution uh so i would say

00:10:32.480 that was the friendliest interview i had many of them were not friendly at all because they

00:10:37.120 well in some cases they made it not friendly i think a lot of the questions we had

00:10:41.120 were legitimate people just didn't want to hear them we had an interesting rapport with other

00:10:47.840 media who were here here's ben smith of a new left of center uh publication called semaphore

00:10:54.560 here's a clip of them on cnbc talking about rebel news right here on the street take a look at that

00:11:00.240 join us now semaphore co-founder and editor in chief uh ben smith that's a big title and if you

00:11:07.120 are in chief you need to decide what is happening here that you need to lead with at semaphore do you

00:11:13.440 not i do and i mean i think one of the things is that the people who love this place most are the

00:11:18.880 populists like malay who can use it as a backdrop to denounce they're the ones having the most fun 1.00

00:11:24.880 there are some right-wing journalists sort of right-wing populist journalists hanging out outside

00:11:28.640 button-holing people i think no one is having more fun the rebel guys like no one is having more

00:11:32.240 like the rebel guys they're like kids in a candy at this place they there was they had this scene

00:11:36.000 where a um like a very polite very diminutive woman asked them to move a bit out of a parking 1.00

00:11:41.920 spot and they're like we will not be cowed by the globalist elite like they're just having a good

00:11:45.840 i saw that yeah he said we're having fun which is true and that we're feasting on the excesses of

00:11:51.840 the globalist left i guess that's true um i want to show you a scrum we had with a cnn reporter who

00:11:58.960 i sort of like because he's got a bigger than life personality uh we scrummed him uh and asked him how

00:12:05.120 can you be an independent journalist if you are paying to play in davos if you are paying klaus schwab

00:12:11.760 hundreds of thousands of dollars for cnn to have pride a place in the inner sanctum here's how that

00:12:16.640 went i tell me what you think of this this was probably the most fun interaction we had so far

00:12:22.320 this week um even though there was some antagonism behind it take a look i'd recognize that voice

00:12:27.200 anywhere how you doing i'm sorry not this morning what are you sorry about well i'm sorry that i can't

00:12:31.120 stop to talk to you let's not stop let's talk and walk we got 60 seconds i got one question for you

00:12:36.080 i've been thinking about cnn and yourself especially a lot of credibility a lot of reputation but how can you

00:12:41.840 ask critical questions here if if you're paying to be here like cnn pays to be here so how can you

00:12:47.680 critically ask questions about the wef i always find it's best to be very careful when walking talking

00:12:53.760 and doing interviews particularly in snowy conditions because i think you're avoiding the

00:12:59.440 question i think it's because you're embarrassed i think it's always very important to understand

00:13:05.280 now now we have two against one well i'm not against you mate we're all on the side of the truth

00:13:10.000 at least i am i know you are too let me ask you do you ski i have a better question that's more in

00:13:15.040 the public interest how can cnn report neutrally or objectively on the world economic forum if you're

00:13:21.360 paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to be here you're part of the insiders when you say

00:13:27.200 we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to be here that's right precisely what do you mean

00:13:32.400 well um to get access to the inside cnn and the other regime media pay hundreds of thousands

00:13:39.680 of dollars sorry regime media excuse me regime r-e-g-i-m-e excuse me yes my god you know you are

00:13:48.880 this is fascinating you're not doing very well as an answer you're good as an asker but not as an

00:13:53.520 answer more cameras to try and get me i'm not trying to get your mates i'm trying to get an answer from

00:14:00.000 you it's different lovely weather tell me you've been here every single year we bumped into you last

00:14:05.360 year um this year the theme is regaining trust why do you think your lords here at wef have lost so

00:14:12.800 much trust stop it rephrase the question in a neutral fashion and you might stand a chance of getting

00:14:19.760 it like cnn does you don't like it when it's uh listen i think you're a great question asker i watch

00:14:26.160 you i love your voice answer my questions what's your purpose my purpose is to find out how you can

00:14:32.320 be an objective journalist but also pay to be part of the team but you're assuming we pay to be part

00:14:36.320 of the team i know you do what all of these organizations along here pay an enormous amount

00:14:41.200 of money to klaus schwab and do you see us along here no you're in the inner sanctum for which we

00:14:47.120 pay for the facilities of studios sure if that lets you sleep at night mate we pay for that in all sorts

00:14:54.080 of venues yeah you know what the facilities and i assure you sir i assure you the numbers you have

00:15:00.640 for what we might pay for facilities i.e electricity tables and access no hundreds of thousands of

00:15:08.080 dollars for tables are they golden tables yes yes there is no payment for access let me just say this

00:15:13.520 again to be absolutely clear the access is a bonus the access is part of my job and you would never

00:15:21.040 jeopardize that by asking questions that are too prickly oh you are clearly erroneous sir show me a

00:15:26.080 prickly question you've asked here at this place you get booted out i should tell you uh he saw that

00:15:31.360 video and i bumped into him on the street today and to my surprise he was quite sad i mean i think he

00:15:37.200 was genuinely sad i don't think he's ever been criticized in his life or or embarrassed he's always

00:15:44.080 the embarrasser and the critic uh i don't know i maybe he was faking it but it sort of touched my heart that

00:15:50.880 such a big shot could be i don't know hurt uh we just wanted to ask him some questions and and i

00:15:57.680 think he was trying to give us uh the high hat but uh anyhow you saw the whole video for yourself

00:16:03.520 um sometimes our interviews didn't score some i mean i have to tell you it's hard to come up with

00:16:08.880 thoughtful questions in a matter of moments there's a lot of people here from facebook and i don't think

00:16:14.960 my questions were particularly strong but here's how some of those went when we saw some facebook guys on the

00:16:20.240 street hey can i ask you a question about uh facebook no why not you're here with facebook

00:16:26.400 and uh you know your collegial left to put your hand on my shoulder so give me a couple of interviewing 0.52

00:16:30.880 right now okay well we're interviewing and you can keep stony silence if you think that looks good

00:16:35.920 i want to add walking to my booth and i need to do that uh the number one issue that klaus schwab says

00:16:42.480 is the goal for the wef is to combat misinformation and disinformation is that important to meta

00:16:49.200 i'm heading to my booth this is not an interview facebook has been one of the largest political

00:16:56.240 censors in the world do you think it's appropriate for facebook to make decisions on what's true or not

00:17:02.000 instead of letting facebook users make that decision again i'm not doing an interview right now so thank

00:17:06.880 you for saying hi but no do you think facebook should be held accountable for the um misinformation that

00:17:12.320 they're out their partners they're fact-checking partners uh through covert and consistently are

00:17:18.080 getting wrong do you think meta should personally be held responsible for partnering up with such uh

00:17:23.360 misinformation uh companies guys i'm not engaging like you know i'm not engaging come on well i think

00:17:29.040 that's part of the problem because facebook i mean klaus schwab says the goal of this conference

00:17:34.160 is to rebuild trust and part of trust is transparency i don't think our questions are a surprise to

00:17:39.280 surprise to you we're asking by what moral rights facebook makes itself the arbiter of what's true

00:17:45.040 or not we have a larger transparency center that you can go and look at that explains exactly what our

00:17:50.000 community standards are we have the community standards enforcement report but it's um that tells

00:17:57.200 you exactly how we follow them so i feel we're very transparent but as i say like we can always you

00:18:05.200 can always talk to our press team and organize time but that is do you think no you've got mark

00:18:10.720 zuckerberg's what we're doing but not his money thank you he's a lot more efficient than your

00:18:18.960 fact-checking allies that are paid

00:18:20.560 how come facebook is censoring the internet is it your plan to interfere with the 2024 election

00:18:30.720 sorry i'm not here to the press well i know that but you're not very transparent you claim

00:18:35.120 to be transparent i'm asking you about your plans to censor the 2024 election

00:18:41.120 that's the key value in this year's wef conference isn't it fighting misinformation

00:18:46.560 do you intend to deploy facebook as a campaign auxiliary to joe biden sometimes interviews were

00:18:52.000 literally 10 seconds long i bumped into someone from mckinsey and i asked about his 100 million or

00:18:58.160 more dollar contract with christia freeland and he just ran away right away i think it was 10 seconds

00:19:04.960 total take a look hi let's wait together i want to ask about mckinsey and those huge contracts you

00:19:09.760 guys got from the canadian government after meeting with christia freeland oh don't run away

00:19:14.960 don't run away why don't you want to talk about your contract with canadian taxpayers

00:19:19.120 i mean surely you believe in transparency anyways we're still editing videos because we're out on

00:19:25.600 the street really all day we take a short break for lunch just to sit down and get off our feet and

00:19:31.360 have a bite and get out of the cold but really from the moment we get here to the moment we leave

00:19:36.960 we're on and we're on the streets and we have to be ready to run because some of these guys do not want to

00:19:43.200 talk to us we ran the entire length of the promenade with someone who takes money from

00:19:48.400 bill gates in the vaccine industry it's an interesting conversation we'll have that for you

00:19:53.200 in a day or two so there's i don't know there's probably 10 videos that are stacked up that we have

00:19:59.280 yet to edit and i think the important thing to do is to be on the street to get as many as we can while

00:20:05.600 the vvips are still here because when they're gone they're gone and we can use that time to edit them

00:20:11.120 but let me leave you with what i think for sure has got to be the brightest spot of davos

00:20:17.760 for a lot of people like me and you i think and that is the new president of argentina javier mille

00:20:25.200 who is being compared to donald trump and i think he is comparable to trump in his audacity

00:20:30.480 and his unusual hair and his love for twitter but i think he is very deeply philosophical very well

00:20:38.000 read in economics and freedom and in that way he's more like vivek ramaswamy i would say

00:20:44.320 or even like milton friedman or stephen harper but he has such a charismatic personality he gave

00:20:50.240 a 20-minute speech yesterday introduced by klaus schwab and i saw some conservative critics saying oh

00:20:55.600 i'm disappointed that javier mille is going to the world economic forum i didn't know he was a globalist

00:21:01.200 no understand this he went to bury not to praise let me leave you with an excerpt from javier mille's

00:21:10.800 brilliant speech to the world economic forum i would like to leave a message for all business people

00:21:18.080 here and for those who are not here in person but are following from around the world do not be

00:21:24.320 intimidated intimidated intimidated either by the political cars or by parasites who live off the

00:21:29.200 state do not surrender to a political class that only wants to stay in power and retain its privileges

00:21:35.680 you are social benefactors you're heroes you're the creators of the most extraordinary period of

00:21:42.800 prosperity we've ever seen let no one tell you that your ambition is immoral if you make money it's

00:21:49.600 because you offer a better product at a better price thereby contributing to general well-being

00:21:56.160 do not surrender to the advance of the state the state is not the solution the state is the problem

00:22:02.720 itself you are the true protagonists of this story and rest assured that as from today argentina 0.95

00:22:09.760 is your staunch unconditional ally thank you very much and long live freedom damn it

00:22:19.600 there are hundreds of journalists here at the world economic forum we scrummed one of them yesterday

00:22:32.000 richard quest hey did you see that you got to watch it again even if you have it was great take a look

00:22:37.360 yes a lot of what happens here is a waste of time a lot of it is far too expensive but there is real value

00:22:42.880 in people coming together at the beginning of the year to see where they stand on controversial or

00:22:47.200 political with no democratic oversight no opposition party and no independent journalists it is a

00:22:53.520 crypto government it's a lobbyist festival it's unregistered lobbyists you get away with things

00:23:00.480 right you have now transgressed you have followed me for the last however many minutes i've made it

00:23:05.680 clear i didn't particularly want to be interviewed i've given you some answers now will you let me

00:23:09.520 proceed go ahead in your safe space you're about to go past the gate but what what you know sir why is

00:23:15.200 why do you think why do you think we don't get excess but you do i really love the fact really love

00:23:21.040 it that you will take whatever i say in however i say it and manage to turn it either we've learned

00:23:28.400 from the master we've learned from the master you're doing it now and either turn it against me

00:23:36.000 or against cnn or against anybody else that you deem to be unworthy of your approval well done sir go with

00:23:45.280 the masters of the universe go with your people go to go to your people those are your people

00:23:50.000 i'm looking forward to seeing how you edit this it'll be raw my friend uncut excellent in which case

00:23:55.200 you will fully understand it's not particularly pleasant at half past nine in the morning to be

00:24:01.120 ambushed by one two three four five people five i don't even deploy that many people when i'm going

00:24:09.520 to interview a president you've got that many people in the makeup room alone that was the funnest

00:24:14.240 interview we've done so far but of these hundreds of journalists 99 of them are what i call regime

00:24:21.440 journalist richard quest asked me to repeat that three times he'd never heard it before i don't

00:24:25.600 think he liked it what i mean by that though is that they have to pay to play they have to buy their

00:24:31.280 way in it's one of the ways that klaus schwab has gotten so rich but there are a handful of citizen

00:24:37.600 journalists on the outside literally on the outside as well as metaphorically and one of my favorites

00:24:43.360 is my friend andrew lawton of true north and i think this is your third time here at davos is that right

00:24:49.040 yes it is my third uh the second without accreditation i had no papers the first time

00:24:54.240 i snuck in apparently on the second time but they didn't like my coverage so no accreditation this

00:24:59.040 time back out on the streets wasn't that interesting was there anything in particular that you did that

00:25:03.280 you think got them to nix your vip status to be honest no and and i probably could have been and

00:25:09.520 should have been a lot more aggressive knowing it was going to be my one and only time i i did go up to

00:25:14.160 world leaders and ask polite and firm questions but no one ever complained and uh one of the wef

00:25:19.040 staffers who i had uh corresponded with i he and i chatted in quite a friendly way when i bumped into

00:25:24.640 him so uh nothing happened uh from a behavioral perspective but i i think the wef actually likes

00:25:31.200 the conspiracy theories they don't like the reasoned critiques they don't like the policy-oriented

00:25:37.040 critiques because those ones they can't just dismiss as conspiracy theories it's not interesting

00:25:42.000 um now were there certain things um the tell me some of the things you could do from the inside

00:25:49.040 that maybe you couldn't do from the outside but i also understand that there may have been some limits

00:25:52.880 for example there were some rooms or hallways where there was no interviews allowed what were the ground

00:25:58.000 rules on the inside so you actually couldn't do all that much which is why i still thought it was

00:26:03.200 worth coming back because the main hub of everything that's on the other side of those security gates

00:26:08.800 is called the davos congress center and that's the room where when you see the videos of the speeches

00:26:12.800 most of them are in that building you can't go in there with a press badge unless you're on an

00:26:17.600 approved list and even to get on that list you have to ask for permission in advance they time it and

00:26:23.280 if you scan your badge outside of that 30 minutes uh which is what they gave me at one point when i i

00:26:28.480 said i wanted to attend a particular speech it will just be deactivated and you're sent back so really

00:26:33.040 all it got you was access to the media filing room which was you know a nice warm place where you could sit and do

00:26:37.840 some work and access to a few press conferences but those things were not really with the heavy

00:26:43.040 hitters that you find out on the streets here so really i think you have better access with no

00:26:47.280 strings on the street to do real journalism than you do on the inside well you have a bit of a different

00:26:52.720 style than we do and i admire it and and it's successful uh in a way that we're not and we're

00:26:58.000 successful in other ways too um can you tell me your favorite interview that you've done so far

00:27:04.880 maybe it was for the substance of it maybe you enjoyed the personality of the person maybe what

00:27:11.200 was your favorite moment so far this week so i my interview style some people say i i am too soft

00:27:17.760 with it but my approach is that i want answers i'm not trying to persuade the person i'm not trying to

00:27:22.480 argue or debate with them i i want answers you want to actually pull something out of their mouth

00:27:26.080 yeah and and sometimes i i think that and pardon using a violent metaphor which may get me strung up on

00:27:31.840 some you know online charge or whatever but i i think that a lot of these people if you let them

00:27:36.320 speak they tie the rope around their own necks metaphorically speaking and by that i mean that

00:27:40.880 these people are very transparent when they get talking about what it is that they want to do and

00:27:44.560 i let their hair down a bit yeah and i actually want the public to see what that agenda is so i mean

00:27:49.920 one example i i spoke to australia's e-safety commissioner julie inman grant now you may remember

00:27:55.440 a couple of years ago she talked about the need to recalibrate free speech and i just asked her what she

00:28:00.080 meant by that and she gave a remarkably candid answer about all the things that she thinks need

00:28:05.120 to be done to stop free speech online i know i'm not going to persuade her but i think that's an

00:28:09.840 incredibly revealing interview that people ought to be aware of julie andrew lawton with true north

00:28:14.000 in canada i'm just one wondering when you talked about recalibrating free speech a couple of years

00:28:18.480 ago what were you referring to i am talking about balancing a range of rights that everyone has a

00:28:25.520 right to online where do you think freedom of expression online should be limited

00:28:31.280 when it undermines other people's freedom of expression and causes significant harm but that's

00:28:37.520 all i have to say but that's a subjective term who's to adjudicate what harm is is it governments

00:28:41.840 well actually it is the government drew the line on what the threshold was and an investigation

00:28:47.200 is taken when somebody reports to a platform when it doesn't conform to their terms of service

00:28:54.880 they come to us to adjudicate do you believe that the first amendment has too high a bar for the

00:28:59.920 online era the first amendment does not apply in australia i know but you're an american so i thought

00:29:05.760 in general as a standard for freedom of expression do you think that's too high of one no i don't i

00:29:10.800 don't apply that i apply my the laws of the australian government that the parliamentarians provided

00:29:15.920 and the thresholds they provided and it's measured against those thresholds you're right and of course if

00:29:20.800 you pull things out of their mouths you can comment about it later on your own time because you have

00:29:25.760 precious few seconds or minutes with them i have an approach when they stonewall which is i sometimes

00:29:33.600 i keep asking questions just to put them on the record and just to sort of demonstrate that they're

00:29:37.600 avoiding answering what do you think of that approach no absolutely you know this year i'll say

00:29:42.400 i mean the julian grant one stands out in part because so few people have been willing to talk to me

00:29:46.320 this year i've had far more instances where i'm putting questions to people that go unanswered

00:29:50.800 but you know i used to when i was starting out in media get a little dejected about that but now i

00:29:54.960 think you know what a non-answer is an answer of its own kind uh one notable example of this i i spoke

00:30:00.080 twice to a queen maxima of the netherlands oh your highness well i try yeah i'm at three monarchs

00:30:05.680 and two princesses holy moly and uh two prime ministers this week i know that we're keeping score

00:30:10.800 or anything on the davos bingo card but but i said listen and it wasn't a she's not the head of

00:30:15.120 government she's the head of state i said listen farmers in your country are suffering because of

00:30:19.600 the netherlands government's policy and you had a chance to put that to her i did i did and twice

00:30:24.720 and i just said what's your message to farmers who are struggling yeah and it doesn't she didn't have

00:30:28.960 to give a political answer she could have given a heartfelt answer what did she say nothing she

00:30:33.520 kept walking did she hear you she did she didn't look at me the one time uh the second time she did

00:30:38.880 look at me and then looked away and security very very uh firmly pushed me away not in an aggressive

00:30:44.320 menzies way but uh that was something where again i i think that's revealing that the unifying

00:30:49.280 figurehead of the netherlands government doesn't really care or care to answer a question about the

00:30:54.080 plight of dutch farmers you know and i this is where i would normally say well maybe she doesn't

00:30:59.840 want to wade into politics but she was actually here giving what i i think could be called a political 0.98

00:31:05.200 speech yeah she was on her way into and then out of a presentation on inclusive financing so when uh when

00:31:12.640 a figurehead of any kind chooses to go into politics i feel they subject themselves to

00:31:16.480 questions that straddle the political realm and i just have to apologize your viewers my eyes keep

00:31:20.720 darting because the nature of the game in davos you never know who's coming by here uh so far it's uh

00:31:26.000 well my producer is saying someone but i don't know if he's just trolling me no he's just trolling

00:31:29.520 you know and and we'll both run in an instant if someone um presents well listen it's great to see

00:31:34.560 again we're very far away from home it's a very long journey to get here there's no there's obviously no

00:31:40.000 direct flight to davos um i mean you come a long way you come from london ontario to toronto to zurich

00:31:46.800 and then up by train or car like it's such a such a we'd make the journey too i think that the onerous

00:31:53.840 journey is part of what keeps us reclusive and exclusive because it takes a real commitment to

00:31:59.280 be here i i'm i'm happy to see a familiar face from home and you and you've got two teammates here

00:32:05.040 uh where can we see your work on the subject just tnc.news is that the best place where would we see

00:32:12.720 all your work yes tnc.news we have it updated and i've also been doing live editions of my show from

00:32:17.760 here kind of weaving in some of the content we collect during the day with that bigger picture

00:32:21.360 analysis but all of it's at true north right now well listen i i love to hang out with you just as

00:32:25.920 buddies it's great to hang out with you professionally i love that you've got a young team with you even though

00:32:31.840 we are i suppose formally competitors i have a deep admiration for true north and i'm really

00:32:37.360 glad you guys are here thank you so much always a pleasure right on there you have it and you know

00:32:41.200 andrew lawton the big boss over at truenorth tnc.news

00:32:48.880 well that's our show for today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at davos in the meeting of

00:32:54.960 the world economic forum and in our canadian office and around the world to you at home

00:32:58.880 good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - January 19, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Klaus Schwab's WEF sets the stage for a battle between sovereignty and 'One World' socialism

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