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EZRA LEVANT | Mark Carney announces run for prime minister... on a U.S. talk show


Summary

Mark Carney announces his campaign to become the next Prime Minister of Canada on a late night comedy show hosted by Ezra Levant on The Daily Show with Stephen Colbert. It's crazy that a conservative would do something so soft and unpatriotic.


Transcript

00:00:00.240 Hello, my friends. Did you see Mark Carney announcing his leadership campaign on an American late-night comedy show last night?
00:00:07.540 It's pretty crazy that he would announce his run for the Canadian politics in America.
00:00:13.040 If a conservative did that, I think they'd be called unpatriotic.
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00:01:38.660 Tonight, Mark Carney announced his campaign to be the Prime Minister of Canada
00:01:51.140 on a U.S. late-night comedy show.
00:01:54.620 It's January 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:57.420 You're fighting for freedom!
00:02:00.740 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:02:03.940 Hey, take a look at this.
00:02:14.820 What are they making up there of the overtures and sort of trolling to Canada
00:02:19.940 about being a part of the United States?
00:02:23.220 Well, I mean, the bottom line is it's not going to happen.
00:02:25.260 Uh, due to this guy.
00:02:29.520 The overture, I mean, uh...
00:02:32.860 Because you don't want it?
00:02:33.660 You don't want to be with...
00:02:34.840 Well, we're...
00:02:35.420 We're proud.
00:02:37.020 We find you very attractive.
00:02:38.460 Um, but we're not...
00:02:40.700 We're not moving...
00:02:41.340 We're not...
00:02:41.820 Not moving in with you.
00:02:43.200 It's...
00:02:43.740 It's not you.
00:02:44.680 It's us.
00:02:45.980 Um...
00:02:46.700 We have...
00:02:50.260 We do things a little differently in Canada.
00:02:52.320 We...
00:02:52.560 Sure.
00:02:52.840 We believe in providing...
00:02:53.900 I just want to tell you, before you go any further,
00:02:55.180 I'm up for it.
00:02:56.460 We're up for it.
00:02:57.060 Whatever you do differently.
00:02:58.740 We want to experiment, too.
00:03:00.140 What do you guys want?
00:03:00.820 We can be...
00:03:02.100 You want...
00:03:02.940 You want, like...
00:03:03.700 We can be friends.
00:03:05.940 There can be a few benefits, John.
00:03:07.960 Friends with benefits, but not...
00:03:10.020 We're not going to commit all the way.
00:03:12.100 Benefits of trade.
00:03:14.100 Benefits of, you know, defense.
00:03:16.200 Right.
00:03:16.740 Bene...
00:03:17.060 Yeah.
00:03:17.460 Yeah, yeah, no.
00:03:17.960 We'll be cool about it.
00:03:20.080 We won't levy tariffs on all your goods
00:03:23.480 as retribution for you not going out with us.
00:03:26.700 We respect your boundaries.
00:03:28.080 You are of the Liberal Party.
00:03:30.660 I am of the Liberal Party, yes.
00:03:32.340 Are they looking for a new leader?
00:03:35.280 I...
00:03:35.760 I think they might be, John.
00:03:38.280 Sir, may I recommend to you,
00:03:41.040 with your charm and debonair wit,
00:03:44.280 yet strong financial backbone,
00:03:46.220 that you offer yourself as...
00:03:49.760 Have you offered yourself as leader?
00:03:51.580 I just started thinking about it
00:03:54.680 when you started.
00:03:56.040 That's Mark Carney
00:03:57.080 with a soft announcement
00:03:58.700 that he's running for the leadership
00:04:00.100 of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:04:01.740 Of course, that's The Daily Show,
00:04:03.320 an American late-night show,
00:04:05.600 comedy show, entertainment show.
00:04:07.080 I'm not quite sure.
00:04:08.080 20 minutes with a boring central banker
00:04:10.260 doesn't sound too entertaining to me,
00:04:12.900 but it was a political decision,
00:04:14.380 not a genuine commercial
00:04:15.960 or audience-building decision
00:04:17.360 by that network.
00:04:18.360 Could you imagine, though,
00:04:19.420 a Canadian conservative
00:04:21.460 announcing their leadership
00:04:23.040 for the Canadian Conservative Party
00:04:25.100 on, say, I don't know, Fox News?
00:04:27.820 It would be called unpatriotic
00:04:29.640 because...
00:04:30.360 Well, because it is.
00:04:32.220 If you're running
00:04:33.320 for the leadership of Canada,
00:04:35.620 why are you telling foreigners first?
00:04:37.620 Why are you letting
00:04:38.860 a foreign comedian journalist grill you?
00:04:42.420 It wasn't really a grilling,
00:04:43.520 that was it?
00:04:43.920 It's a vanity move
00:04:45.540 to show that you are loved
00:04:47.280 by the Hollywood elite.
00:04:48.440 It's a flex of some sort, I guess.
00:04:52.020 Nearly 20 minutes long.
00:04:53.460 That is not a genuine show.
00:04:55.860 Obviously, this was paid for
00:04:57.380 in some way.
00:04:59.620 I mean, that is not entertainment
00:05:01.620 for the U.S. mass market.
00:05:03.360 No one in America knows
00:05:04.700 who Mark Carney is.
00:05:06.140 He was the leader
00:05:07.040 of the Bank of Canada,
00:05:07.960 then the Bank of England,
00:05:08.980 then he was involved
00:05:10.140 in the World Economic Forum.
00:05:11.120 No one in America knows who he is.
00:05:12.380 That was not genuine TV.
00:05:13.920 That was a product placement.
00:05:15.980 I wonder if it'll be counted
00:05:17.080 as a campaign expense
00:05:18.380 like my book,
00:05:19.440 The Libranos, was,
00:05:20.920 and I was prosecuted for it.
00:05:23.180 Same thing, though,
00:05:23.940 with Trudeau's recent
00:05:25.400 vanity appearance
00:05:26.680 on Stephen Colbert's show.
00:05:29.160 No one in America
00:05:30.440 really cares about
00:05:31.660 Justin Trudeau
00:05:32.400 other than as a punchline
00:05:34.260 and a joke.
00:05:34.820 They know him as
00:05:35.320 the people kind guy.
00:05:37.520 But remember,
00:05:38.300 these shows are bought and sold.
00:05:40.140 Remember when Stephen Colbert
00:05:41.540 did this obvious
00:05:42.880 product placement
00:05:43.860 for Pfizer.
00:05:45.480 Remember this?
00:05:46.280 Deeply embarrassing.
00:05:47.360 Cheers.
00:05:49.400 Cheers.
00:05:50.160 Cheers.
00:05:55.380 Cheers.
00:06:02.120 So,
00:06:05.960 Yeah, well, I mean, this is what they've decided to do.
00:06:20.940 It was really weird for Mark Carney.
00:06:22.380 I mentioned that he was formerly the head of the Bank of England and the head of the Bank of Canada.
00:06:27.580 He was at the Finance Department in Canada.
00:06:30.180 He's involved with the United Nations.
00:06:31.820 He was on the board of directors of the World Economic Forum.
00:06:34.500 What a bizarre attempt to call himself an outsider.
00:06:40.920 Yeah, that's that's what he said.
00:06:42.820 A wild hypothetical.
00:06:44.460 Let's say the candidate wasn't part of the government.
00:06:48.220 Let's say the candidate did have a lot of economic experience.
00:06:52.040 Let's say the candidate did deal with crises.
00:06:54.960 Let's say the candidate had a plan to deal with the challenges in the here and now.
00:06:59.760 You sneaky.
00:07:00.560 You're running as an outsider.
00:07:02.480 I am an outsider.
00:07:03.680 Wow, that's all.
00:07:05.640 So so you're going to be coming in there to say, I have not been in the government.
00:07:09.800 I have worked in the financial markets.
00:07:12.020 I understand all the things that go around trade.
00:07:15.380 Not only has he had these masters of the universe jobs.
00:07:18.940 I mean, he worked for Goldman Sachs.
00:07:20.320 He went to Harvard and then to Goldman Sachs and then all these master of the universe jobs.
00:07:24.880 But he's actually been a financial advisor to Justin Trudeau and the liberals for close to five years.
00:07:31.560 I mean, he's officially led some economic growth council for Trudeau for months.
00:07:36.720 And I presume he still does right now.
00:07:40.480 He's an insider as if there ever was one.
00:07:43.920 And the other ultimate insiders, Katie Telfort, Trudeau's chief of staff and Gerald Butts, his best friend since college.
00:07:51.620 They're working the phones for Mark Carney.
00:07:54.640 By the way, Mark Carney's wife, who's even more radical and environmentalist than he is, works in New York at the Eurasian Group with Gerald Butts.
00:08:04.120 And they're getting big government contracts from Canada down there in New York.
00:08:07.620 It's so corrupt.
00:08:09.600 Mark Carney is not so much an outsider as someone who regards himself as above us.
00:08:15.660 I think that's what he means when he says he's an outsider.
00:08:18.740 He has never had a difficult blue-collar job.
00:08:23.480 He's never been a guy who drives his own car.
00:08:26.140 He's always had a driver.
00:08:27.240 He is someone who shops for him.
00:08:29.060 So when he says he's an outsider, I think he means he's an abover.
00:08:32.560 He's above us.
00:08:34.320 Really weird.
00:08:35.060 He grew up in the Northwest.
00:08:37.080 He was born in Northwest Territories.
00:08:38.260 Grew up in, like, he grew up somewhat modestly.
00:08:41.080 He went to school in Edmonton before going to Harvard.
00:08:44.040 But he collected passports.
00:08:46.780 He's one of these international jet setters.
00:08:48.360 He's got a U.K. passport.
00:08:50.420 He's got an Irish passport.
00:08:52.720 Mark, you look like you were about to...
00:08:54.200 Yeah, I was a tell.
00:08:55.360 As a European, you know, as an honor of a European.
00:08:57.400 As a European, I'm a European, actually.
00:08:59.120 Oh, you are?
00:08:59.720 Oh, oh.
00:09:00.100 Yeah, an Irish citizen.
00:09:00.960 Yeah, so there you go.
00:09:01.860 Well, welcome.
00:09:03.220 Speaking as a European, I like to say falling.
00:09:05.940 But really, he's not rooted anywhere, is he?
00:09:08.300 He is a master of the universe.
00:09:10.120 That's what he means when he says he's an outsider.
00:09:12.100 He doesn't know local politics.
00:09:14.920 He's never knocked on a door.
00:09:17.140 And last night's interview was not a real interview.
00:09:20.060 I think the reason why both Trudeau and Carney have gone to American softball interviews is because they don't want to answer tough questions.
00:09:27.960 Trudeau and Carney both don't want to answer the questions about what the heck happened with Chrystia Freeland.
00:09:33.900 Why is the country pro-road?
00:09:35.600 Are they cutting another dirty deal with the NDP?
00:09:37.620 Any real questions that Canadians want to know and that even a CBC journalist these days might even ask?
00:09:43.260 No way.
00:09:44.060 Go to that clown, you know, Jon Stewart on The Daily Show.
00:09:48.520 He'll tell a few yucks.
00:09:50.280 It was so scripted.
00:09:51.920 There was a moment where he talked about Pierre Polyev, the conservative leader.
00:09:55.900 And his approach is to criticize Polyev is to say, Polyev is someone who has been in politics his whole life and doesn't know how to do anything.
00:10:05.080 Now, there is a grain of truth to that.
00:10:06.860 Pierre Polyev has been an MP since his 20s.
00:10:09.760 And in a way, that is all he's done in his life.
00:10:12.480 That's also true about Mark Carney, of course.
00:10:15.440 He has been in the Department of Finance and then Bank of Canada and Bank of England.
00:10:18.880 And that's government, too.
00:10:20.480 The difference, if I may, is that one of them has got the approval of the democratic system by being elected again and again and again.
00:10:30.520 By having to knock on doors and do the church circuit and synagogue circuit and mosque circuit, to do the farmer's market circuit, to do the Rotary Club circuit, to have to actually listen to ordinary people.
00:10:43.360 Pierre Polyev has been in elected politics his whole life.
00:10:47.380 And Mark Carney has been in selected politics his whole life.
00:10:54.220 He seeks to impose himself on the people, not to get approval from the people.
00:10:59.180 I think that Mark Carney's attacks felt weak.
00:11:02.500 He's had a lot of time to prepare his talking points.
00:11:04.760 They didn't feel particularly strong.
00:11:06.320 I thought this was a little weird when he said that Pierre Polyev tried to take our rights away during COVID or tried to take our money away.
00:11:12.980 I didn't quite get it.
00:11:14.400 Pierre Polyev was in opposition during COVID.
00:11:17.700 What do you make of this?
00:11:19.580 I'll say this.
00:11:20.640 There is a type of politician.
00:11:23.600 You have a few of them here in the United States.
00:11:25.520 Stop it.
00:11:26.620 Yeah.
00:11:26.760 They had a lot in and around Brexit.
00:11:30.720 Yes.
00:11:31.240 And we have Mr. Polyev in Canada.
00:11:34.420 A type of politician who's, you know, tend to be a lifelong politician.
00:11:38.180 Really?
00:11:38.800 Tend to worship the market.
00:11:40.080 They've never actually worked in the private sector.
00:11:42.580 Right.
00:11:42.780 And they see opportunity in tragedy, like you just had with the California fires, these horrible fires.
00:11:49.960 Correct.
00:11:50.300 And they see opportunity in tragedy to push an agenda that here's one they prepared earlier.
00:11:55.740 Right.
00:11:55.880 And they fit it in.
00:11:57.220 And so whether it was Brexit, here often, you know, the star of the beast type approach.
00:12:02.360 So Pierre Polyev, when COVID started, his reaction was, hmm, this is a good time to cut spending and cut taxes.
00:12:11.900 Everyone's just been pushed out of a job.
00:12:14.360 Nobody's got work.
00:12:15.680 So let's cut the taxes on the work they don't have.
00:12:18.100 And let's take away the social safety net when everybody's vulnerable.
00:12:21.980 Wow.
00:12:22.540 Yeah.
00:12:23.400 And how did that work out for people?
00:12:25.880 Well, fortunately, he was in opposition.
00:12:28.400 Oh, that was his idea?
00:12:29.780 That was his idea.
00:12:30.980 Ah.
00:12:31.420 I think he just sort of made that up as some sort of weird applause line.
00:12:34.820 Polyev was not in power.
00:12:36.920 And I don't think he did those things that Mark Carney accused him of.
00:12:41.500 But how would Jon Stewart know?
00:12:43.440 He wouldn't know enough to ask a follow-up question.
00:12:45.560 Now, the reaction by the regime media to this appearance, it was positively erotic.
00:12:53.340 They were thrilled.
00:12:54.840 And I can understand why.
00:12:57.100 Justin Trudeau is hated across the country.
00:13:00.060 It's like when Joe Biden had that disastrous debate with Donald Trump.
00:13:04.740 Remember that?
00:13:05.340 Here's my favorite line.
00:13:06.720 When Trump said, I don't know what he was saying, and I don't think he did either.
00:13:09.820 Remember that line?
00:13:10.620 Take a look.
00:13:11.040 There are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.
00:13:14.260 That's better than when he left office.
00:13:16.420 And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative
00:13:23.300 to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.
00:13:28.280 President Trump?
00:13:29.220 I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
00:13:31.840 I don't think he knows what he said either.
00:13:33.440 Look.
00:13:33.600 That debate was so atrocious that every Democrat and every Democrat journalist in America at
00:13:39.720 the same time said, oh, my God, we're going to get slaughtered.
00:13:43.320 We've got to get rid of that guy.
00:13:44.540 And I think we're in the same position in Canada with Justin Trudeau.
00:13:47.900 And so the expectations of the regime are so low that to see someone else talk about the
00:13:54.380 party without some of the blemishes on them, without—to see anyone other than Justin Trudeau
00:14:00.460 talk like a leader, everyone was thrilled to see it.
00:14:04.780 I mean, to see anyone other than, you know, Melanie Jolie, the pure DEI woke appointment,
00:14:14.100 represent the liberal brand is remarkable.
00:14:16.620 I mean, is there anyone in the liberal cabinet that you could genuinely see leading the country?
00:14:22.940 No.
00:14:23.420 Maybe some people say Dominic LeBlanc.
00:14:25.880 I'm not so sure.
00:14:26.660 So I think to say that that was a home run for Mark Carney is mainly the expectations
00:14:32.580 are so low and Trudeau is so hated that people were just relieved that there was someone saying,
00:14:38.940 yeah, I'll leave the liberal party.
00:14:40.240 And he wasn't about to detonate.
00:14:42.960 Of course, there were no tough questions.
00:14:44.680 That's the reason you go on The Daily Show, just like Trudeau going on CNN and MSNBC.
00:14:50.120 And by the way, if you're trying to woo Donald Trump, if you're trying to negotiate with
00:14:55.100 him or talk to him, you don't go on CNN or MSNBC or The Daily Show.
00:14:58.600 Those are atrociously anti-Republican, anti-Trump channels.
00:15:02.840 That's part of the message here, too.
00:15:05.420 There's a lot of questions about Mark Carney that we don't have answers to yet that Jon
00:15:10.100 Stewart of The Daily Show wouldn't ask about his conflicts of interest.
00:15:14.500 When will Mark Carney disclose his conflicts of interest?
00:15:18.140 He's chairman of Brookfield Properties, huge company, chairman of Bloomberg LLC.
00:15:24.300 I mean, Brookfield alone has a trillion dollars under management.
00:15:27.940 It's like a mini BlackRock.
00:15:30.960 Does he still own that?
00:15:32.980 Is he still lobbying the country?
00:15:34.820 Is he still getting contracts for Canadian government deals?
00:15:40.180 Has he been lobbying all this time?
00:15:42.280 He's been an advisor.
00:15:43.360 We know he has.
00:15:44.320 I mean, they want just to have this appointed and done in private and quiet and secret like
00:15:50.340 they do with the World Economic Forum.
00:15:51.780 They want a World Economic Forum style succession here.
00:15:58.000 They don't want an election.
00:16:00.100 They want a succession.
00:16:01.840 I think there's something deeply undemocratic about what's going on here, proroguing parliament
00:16:09.300 for partisan reasons, not reasons in the public interest.
00:16:13.120 The Liberal Party allowing 14-year-olds to vote, allowing non-citizens who are merely permanent
00:16:18.920 residents to vote, plus pre-existing Liberal members who are foreign citizens.
00:16:24.320 As far as we know, they're still allowed to vote before Canadians are asked anything about
00:16:29.820 this.
00:16:30.740 The NDP will obviously do a deal with Mark Carney.
00:16:35.160 And if and when they do, that is seven months for Mark Carney to be a parachuted-in World Economic
00:16:42.140 Forum master of us.
00:16:44.400 It's like Klaus Schwab himself said.
00:16:46.940 What we are very proud of now is the young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, president
00:16:55.120 of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets.
00:17:00.820 I know that half of this cabinet or even more half of this cabinet are for our actually young
00:17:11.980 global leaders of the World Economic Forum.
00:17:13.560 And if you don't like this World Economic Forum candidate, well, we've got another World
00:17:18.260 Economic Forum candidate for you, Chrystia Freeland, who's literally on the board today.
00:17:24.560 Mark Carney was on their board a few years ago.
00:17:27.440 I think it comes down to this.
00:17:29.980 Around the world, populism is rising as a response to out-of-touch, top-down, we-know-best
00:17:37.480 selected ideological leftists like Mark Carney.
00:17:41.800 I think you see this in the election of Donald Trump, in the growth of the Reform Party in
00:17:46.580 the United Kingdom, in Georgia Maloney, in the national, in Marine Le Pen in France, in
00:17:54.260 Geert-Builders in Holland, in the Alternative for Deutschland in Germany, all around the world.
00:17:59.800 You see populist conservatives rising up to replace this World Economic Forum, UN, global
00:18:06.740 warming-knows-best approach.
00:18:09.140 COVID was one big reason.
00:18:11.160 Mass immigration was one big reason.
00:18:13.420 Inflation was one big reason.
00:18:16.060 People have warmed to Pierre Paglia precisely because he's smart, conservative, and populist.
00:18:22.280 I don't think that Mark Carney and his connections and his money, I don't think that's powerful
00:18:28.720 enough to save the Liberal Party.
00:18:30.540 I don't think it'll work, but I think it'll do a lot of damage to Canada over the next seven
00:18:35.860 months to have a hand selected through a riggable process to rule over us, not to govern with
00:18:44.720 the consent of the people, but to rule over us.
00:18:47.420 I think it'll be the last hope of the regime in their inner circle.
00:18:51.320 If you were a CBC reporter and you realized that Mark Carney was the only hope of stopping
00:18:57.580 Pierre Paglia and saving the CBC from being privatized, you'd probably go to bat for him
00:19:03.020 too, now wouldn't you?
00:19:04.780 I should tell you that in just a few days, I will be joining a number of rebels, including
00:19:10.580 Sheila Gunn-Reed and Avi Amini, and a crew, to fly to the World Economic Forum in Davos,
00:19:17.400 Switzerland, as we do every year.
00:19:19.120 Now, last year, you might recall, I bumped into Mark Carney on the street with Avi Amini.
00:19:24.500 Here's how that went.
00:19:25.620 I heard you had a meeting the other day with the prime minister in Ottawa.
00:19:29.300 Is that correct?
00:19:30.980 I see the prime minister from time to time.
00:19:33.240 In what capacity, may I ask?
00:19:36.040 I, well, I do a lot of work on climate, as you know.
00:19:40.380 I'm sure a big fan of that.
00:19:41.860 Do you ever register as a lobbyist or is it just friendship?
00:19:45.880 Sorry, I don't.
00:19:46.640 When you meet with the PM on climate, are you there on your own behalf or are you there
00:19:50.960 on behalf of a company lobbyist?
00:19:52.600 I am the UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance.
00:19:57.820 And what do you make?
00:19:58.580 It's a bitter cold in Canada, down to minus 40s.
00:20:01.600 Back home in Alberta, it was minus 40.
00:20:04.600 And Gilboa is saying go to electric cars.
00:20:06.560 That doesn't work.
00:20:07.280 Back in for a week.
00:20:08.340 Well, you've got to have, watch out, you've got to have the full, you've got to have full
00:20:12.640 capacity, right?
00:20:13.640 And you've got to have, you've got to, you know, one of the things we're going to need
00:20:18.000 to do in Canada, across Canada, and this is, you know, for the benefit of jobs in the country
00:20:24.640 is, is build out the grid.
00:20:26.400 You can't switch before you build it out, number one.
00:20:29.240 Number two, one of the things you need, regardless of the form of energy you have, we have, is,
00:20:37.740 is also to have what's called a capacity market alongside the electricity market.
00:20:43.880 So you think that Gilboa's plan is a little bit hasty, since we haven't done those foundational
00:20:47.640 things?
00:20:48.240 Well, I think what's important is that, you know, whether it's in Alberta, Ontario, Canada,
00:20:54.700 Australia, for that matter, is that you have to, yeah, you have to build.
00:20:59.040 You have to build.
00:20:59.700 I take it Mark Carney is going to be busy in Canada, and so will Chrystia Freeland, the
00:21:04.680 two World Economic Forum graduates duking it out.
00:21:08.660 Isn't that something?
00:21:09.580 But I will be there in Davos, and we'll be hunting for these oligarchs and masters of
00:21:16.600 the universe.
00:21:17.080 So be sure to follow our reports next week from Davos.
00:21:20.900 And of course, we'll have a great team here in Canada reporting every day on these liberal
00:21:25.260 shenanigans.
00:21:25.980 It's undemocratic, I tell you.
00:21:28.060 Stay with us.
00:21:28.840 More ahead.
00:21:29.260 Well, everybody complains about the weather, but no one actually does anything about it.
00:21:44.920 It's inevitable, isn't it?
00:21:46.180 And that's how I think most Canadians feel about the governor general's decision to accede
00:21:51.060 to Justin Trudeau's demand that she dissolve parliament until March 24th, right in the
00:21:57.300 middle of multiple crises, the largest and most important of which is Donald Trump saying
00:22:03.180 if Canada doesn't stop illegal immigration and illegal drugs, he's going to put tariffs
00:22:07.920 on our imports.
00:22:08.840 The obvious response, of course, being to stop illegal migration and drugs.
00:22:13.940 But of course, in Canada, we accept, apparently, that we have to have a porous border.
00:22:21.120 So we're moving to the threat part of that, which is the tariffs.
00:22:23.960 Anyway, that's crisis number one.
00:22:25.740 Crisis number two is that the government's falling apart, that liberals themselves no longer
00:22:29.680 have any confidence in them.
00:22:30.940 And in this time, Justin Trudeau has apparently commanded the king's representative in Canada,
00:22:36.580 Mary Simon, the governor general, to simply give him the gift of three months wiggle room.
00:22:40.780 It looks like Trudeau will hang on for a bit of that.
00:22:44.800 But on March 9th, of course, the liberals will announce their new leader who will, according
00:22:49.600 to our system, become prime minister, even though parliament will not be sitting, even
00:22:54.620 though there will have been no general election, whoever wins that race.
00:22:58.520 And it could be Mark Carney, the Irish and English citizen who has come back to rule us.
00:23:05.640 By the way, as we've mentioned before, this liberal leadership contest includes children,
00:23:10.440 as young as 14.
00:23:11.860 It includes people who are not citizens, but rather merely permanent residents.
00:23:16.860 Why did the governor general go along with this?
00:23:20.060 Why did she dissolve parliament to essentially save Justin Trudeau?
00:23:24.180 That is not in the public interest.
00:23:26.300 That's not in the national or constitutional interest.
00:23:28.920 I understand that's in Trudeau's personal interest, and it may be in the liberal party's
00:23:32.780 interest.
00:23:33.060 But why did the governor general dissolve parliament in this double crisis?
00:23:39.560 And is there anything we can do about it?
00:23:41.280 Or, like the weather, do we have to accept it?
00:23:46.520 Well, I saw news that the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms has gone to court to
00:23:51.520 seek a review of the governor general's decision.
00:23:54.220 I didn't know you could do that.
00:23:56.200 Joining us now to talk about it is the boss of the Justice Center, our friend John Carpe,
00:24:00.540 who joins us now from Calgary.
00:24:02.380 John, great to see you again.
00:24:03.120 How are you doing?
00:24:04.420 Good to see you, Ezra.
00:24:06.520 John, I would never have thought that the governor general's decision could be reviewed.
00:24:11.220 In my mind, she is an arm or a finger of the king.
00:24:17.740 And I don't know if there's any court that can tell the king or his delegates what they
00:24:22.780 can or can't do.
00:24:24.200 But I have not looked into it deeply.
00:24:25.980 I just sort of always assumed you can't touch the king or his deputy in Canada.
00:24:31.160 On what basis do you think the decision to prorogue parliament can be challenged?
00:24:39.740 Well, the prorogation of parliament is not something that you routinely see getting taken to court.
00:24:48.060 Part of this situation is that we've got a very strong precedent from 2019 when in the
00:24:54.980 United Kingdom, Prime Minister Boris Johnson prorogued parliament for five weeks, not nearly
00:25:00.800 as long as the 11 weeks that Justin Trudeau is proroguing parliament in Canada or trying
00:25:07.280 to, Boris Johnson prorogued parliament for five weeks, which was longer than the usual
00:25:13.100 one to three weeks.
00:25:14.860 And the highest court in the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom Supreme Court, ruled that
00:25:20.280 it was a violation of the constitutional principle of the sovereignty of parliament.
00:25:26.700 Johnson had a minority government.
00:25:28.720 He wanted to get the United Kingdom out of the European Union quicker.
00:25:35.340 It was dragging on.
00:25:36.620 It had been three years since the referendum.
00:25:39.360 And the court ruled that his prorogation of parliament was illegal because it sought to
00:25:46.080 shield the government from scrutiny by parliament.
00:25:50.680 And we have the same constitution fundamentally in Canada where the government is or should be
00:25:58.480 accountable to parliament.
00:25:59.900 The government needs to enjoy the support of the majority of MPs.
00:26:03.860 And so what we've got Justin Trudeau doing is analogous to what Boris Johnson did in 2019,
00:26:11.240 proroguing parliament.
00:26:12.460 But it's for a political purpose.
00:26:14.600 It's not because the business of parliament has come to a natural conclusion, in which case
00:26:20.560 prorogation would be a very normal thing.
00:26:23.400 There's nothing unusual about prorogation.
00:26:25.560 It completely shuts down parliament, but without an election following it.
00:26:29.980 So we're arguing in this court application that this is an illegal prorogation because it
00:26:35.720 is done for the partisan political purpose of benefiting one political party, and it's
00:26:41.500 not being done in the national interest.
00:26:44.720 And it is unjustly shielding Trudeau and the other cabinet ministers and whatever new people
00:26:53.360 are after the liberal leadership race on March 9th.
00:26:57.580 All of this is taking place without parliamentary scrutiny at a crucial time, and that's unacceptable.
00:27:02.960 John, I have just learned more from you in the last 90 seconds than I have on this subject in my whole life.
00:27:09.660 I did not know that Boris Johnson prorogued parliament for five weeks and was overturned by the Supreme Court.
00:27:17.260 I didn't know that.
00:27:18.940 And as you point out, in UK, no less, the mother of parliaments, I wouldn't have thunk it.
00:27:27.180 And you're right.
00:27:27.920 Nobody thought about it in 2008 because the Justice Centre is getting emails from people saying,
00:27:35.240 why didn't you challenge Harper's prorogation of parliament in 2008 when there was a threat
00:27:40.980 to topple his minority government and replace it with a liberal NDP, Bloc Québécois coalition?
00:27:47.960 And the short answer is that the Justice Centre did not exist in 2008.
00:27:50.920 I was going to say, I don't think you guys were around in 2008.
00:27:54.120 But that's incredible.
00:27:55.000 Nobody thought about it.
00:27:56.960 Nobody thought about it at the time because they could have taken that to court.
00:28:00.180 And maybe they would have, you know, it's hypothetical.
00:28:02.820 It was a little bit of a different fact scenario.
00:28:05.220 But who knows?
00:28:06.520 But now we've got this UK precedent.
00:28:08.440 So it's like, OK.
00:28:09.340 That UK precedent sounds very strong.
00:28:12.740 In fact, five weeks in the UK versus almost three months in Canada, political scrounging
00:28:20.280 around there, oh my God, even more so here, achingly in need of a confidence vote or an election
00:28:29.220 here.
00:28:30.280 Every single fact or factor there seems to be more acute here.
00:28:36.320 And I don't know if the governor general would have even consulted the king or even legal counsel here.
00:28:43.260 I think she just would have, I think she's such a partisan flack herself.
00:28:49.040 She would have done whatever Trudeau asked her to do.
00:28:51.480 I thought, and the reason I started by saying no one ever does anything about the weather, how can you, is because I assumed the prerogation was an unchallengeable prerogative
00:29:04.100 of the king.
00:29:06.240 And what you're saying is the decision-making process is reviewable.
00:29:12.540 Is that what you're saying?
00:29:13.500 Absolutely, it is.
00:29:16.400 And in the United Kingdom, this came up as well because Boris Johnson went to the queen, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth at that time, and said, I want to prerogue parliament.
00:29:27.900 And the queen said yes.
00:29:28.900 And the queen prerogued parliament.
00:29:30.100 And what they did in the court action, they didn't attack the queen or criticize the queen, or they didn't argue that the queen should have rejected the advice of the prime minister.
00:29:42.400 They didn't take that tactic.
00:29:44.180 What they said instead was that the advice that Boris Johnson gave to the queen was unlawful.
00:29:49.440 And so the court action was against the prime minister's advice.
00:29:54.780 And so we are filing this court action in the same manner.
00:29:58.620 We're not going to try to go after the governor general, and we're not going to try to argue that she should have disregarded the advice of the prime minister,
00:30:06.620 and she should have told the prime minister to go jump in the lake, and so on and so forth.
00:30:11.200 We're just leaving that alone.
00:30:12.700 We're saying that the advice that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau gave to the governor general was unlawful advice.
00:30:19.100 And that is kind of our legal tactic.
00:30:23.240 That's what happened five years ago in the United Kingdom.
00:30:27.380 Well, John, like I said, just short minutes ago, I would have thought this was a lark, a Hail Mary pass.
00:30:32.580 And by the way, it still is surely an uphill battle because while it's being done in the UK, it's novel and candid.
00:30:38.220 I haven't even heard anyone talk about it other than you guys.
00:30:41.780 But with that British precedent, I'm suddenly filled with a little bit of hope.
00:30:45.700 Of course, they always say the phrase time is of the essence.
00:30:52.120 That's a lawyer's way of saying move quickly.
00:30:55.480 Because, of course, the prorogation ends on the 24th.
00:30:59.660 The liberal shenanigans are scheduled for March 9th.
00:31:02.860 We need parliament now.
00:31:04.400 Donald Trump is taking office on Monday.
00:31:07.560 That's when this tariff crisis will come to fruition.
00:31:12.020 How quickly are you moving?
00:31:16.200 I take it you filed whatever originating notice is required.
00:31:21.740 Has the government of Canada accepted service of the documents?
00:31:26.360 Have you moved into a really speedy case management?
00:31:29.980 What court?
00:31:30.740 Is this the federal court you're in?
00:31:33.040 Have you been assigned a judge to manage this thing?
00:31:35.820 I got all sorts of procedural questions because to get something moving super fast is hard in our system.
00:31:44.320 And I would imagine that's the number one way to defeat this.
00:31:47.180 Just to rag the puck.
00:31:48.500 How's it going in terms of speediness?
00:31:51.460 Well, we filed our court action on Tuesday the 7th.
00:31:54.820 So on Monday the 6th, we had the prime minister make his announcement that he was going to resign and the parliament would be prorogued.
00:32:02.000 We had our court papers filed Tuesday the 7th, the day after.
00:32:06.640 And so we've already had, we're in case management.
00:32:09.760 We've got a case management judge who has been assigned to us, which is good.
00:32:13.080 That means that you've got one designated person.
00:32:16.360 The federal government walked into court and said that it was not urgent.
00:32:23.400 Initially, they said, well, it's going to take us a week just to get back to you with our position as to whether or not this is an urgent matter.
00:32:34.820 They then, the judge was not amused.
00:32:37.000 So they've said, okay, our position is that this is not urgent.
00:32:41.220 So now we have an application at 12 noon Thursday later this week to deal with whether this is urgent or not.
00:32:53.020 And hopefully we can win on that point.
00:32:55.720 Realistically, we could be going to a hearing by the end of January.
00:33:00.360 It's not impossible.
00:33:02.120 Certainly in the United Kingdom, from the time of filing until a decision was rendered by the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, there's four weeks that went by.
00:33:09.980 So when courts want to move something up the pipe quickly, they will.
00:33:15.380 And so we are hopeful to get a hearing in late January or early February so that it can make a difference.
00:33:25.180 And I don't want to make predictions, but I don't think the court will look too kindly on this federal government delay tactics,
00:33:34.140 trying to suggest that somehow this is not urgent and we can just take our sweet time and get a decision
00:33:39.620 whenever.
00:33:40.820 Yeah, that's ridiculous.
00:33:42.400 You know, the fastest, I mean, I've seen the court move quickly sometimes.
00:33:46.360 You might recall several years ago, Trudeau's handpicked debates commission kept Rebel News out.
00:33:52.380 We were able to get into court on really a couple of days notice.
00:33:56.260 I remember in 2019, we filed our lawsuit on a Monday.
00:34:02.240 Incredibly, the hearing, sorry, we filed our legal papers on a Friday, pardon me.
00:34:07.420 We had a hearing on the Monday.
00:34:09.460 I've never heard of anything that fast.
00:34:11.420 You might recall that David Lamedi, the former Justice Minister, quit Parliament in disgrace after the Emergencies Act was found to be unconstitutional.
00:34:20.860 And he hit delete on his Twitter button, which would have destroyed a bunch of public records.
00:34:25.980 We filed a lawsuit against him.
00:34:28.380 We had a hearing in front of the chief judge of the federal court himself within a week, I think.
00:34:35.460 So the government, the courts can move wicked fast if they realize something is urgent.
00:34:42.740 And I can't think of anything more urgent or, frankly, more important than this.
00:34:47.300 And that's not to say you're going to win.
00:34:49.040 But if the court is going to hear the matter, they've got to hear it quickly.
00:34:52.360 I'm very excited.
00:34:53.760 John, I'll tell you, when I knew you were coming on the show today to talk about this, I was very skeptical.
00:34:59.460 But that's because I did not know about that British precedent.
00:35:02.180 And now that I know about that British precedent, and I know the very basic facts that you've outlined, I'm suddenly optimistic.
00:35:11.460 Because wouldn't that be something?
00:35:12.860 And, you know, something feels impossible until you do it.
00:35:17.540 And then, well, we always knew we could do it.
00:35:20.280 Like, I think back to the challenge of the Emergencies Act.
00:35:22.820 And I think you guys were part of that, if I recall.
00:35:25.520 Yes.
00:35:26.920 Like, it was almost on thinking, how could you challenge the Emergencies Act?
00:35:29.940 There's no way we had the whole public order commission, and they rubber stamped it.
00:35:34.340 No.
00:35:34.900 A real court with a real judge really rebuked it as illegal, unconstitutional, unintelligible.
00:35:41.780 He had a whole bunch of adjectives there.
00:35:44.880 And it totally changes things when you roll the dice on something and you win.
00:35:51.640 Something that was regarded as impossible now is possible.
00:35:54.500 I regarded your lawsuit here as impossible, and now I hear there's a strong British precedent.
00:36:01.160 I'm really excited about it, John.
00:36:02.900 I hope you keep us posted on it.
00:36:05.460 Well, we will for sure.
00:36:07.020 And I think, you know, as you know, I've got this book coming out, Corrupted by Fear, where I criticize some of these rulings by judges who seem to repeat what they heard on the Six O'Clock News and write it into their court judgments.
00:36:20.260 But this particular case now with the prorogation of Parliament has absolutely nothing to do with COVID or lockdowns or travel restrictions or vaccine mandates, etc., etc.
00:36:33.800 And so I'm very hopeful that a court will look at this with an open mind and rule according to law.
00:36:41.520 And I think we're not going to have the problems that we have had in Canada where judges are putting too much credence in what they hear on the Six O'Clock News when they're writing their judgments about lockdowns and vaccine passports.
00:36:57.320 I don't think that that's at play here at all.
00:37:00.040 And I think that's very positive.
00:37:01.300 And you know what, not just that, I think Justin Trudeau has lost his it factor.
00:37:09.880 I think that the whole country is tired of him.
00:37:14.940 And, you know, I'm thinking back to an even older British president, in the name of God, go, you know, throwing out the Parliament.
00:37:22.640 And you have, I don't want to try and remember those, that condemnation of the British Parliament.
00:37:31.340 In the name of God, go.
00:37:32.840 I think that everyone is sick of Trudeau.
00:37:36.160 And everyone sees this as a cynical ploy.
00:37:38.860 And so I think that maybe, just maybe, you'll get a fair hearing.
00:37:42.080 You might find a federal court judge who is still in love with Trudeau, but I think just as likely you'll find one who is not in love and not in hate with him, but will give you a fair hearing.
00:37:52.560 And if the precedent is as you say it is, there is no basis whatsoever, no one in the country can say this is a prorogation in the national interest.
00:38:02.760 No one even pretends that, certainly not Trudeau or Mark Carney or Chrystia Freeland or any of them.
00:38:08.220 And wouldn't it be amazing if just like the Emergencies Act was overturned, if this prorogation was overturned, it would be a delight to see the plans of these schemers dashed.
00:38:20.300 John, good luck and keep in touch.
00:38:22.560 All right. Have a great rest of the day.
00:38:24.040 All right. There you have it, John Carpe.
00:38:25.640 He's the leader of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:38:28.720 Go to jccf.ca.
00:38:31.340 Stay with us. More ahead.
00:38:43.800 Hey, welcome back.
00:38:44.880 Your letters to me.
00:38:47.120 Matt Hogg says a vote for Carney is a vote for Trudeau and Butts.
00:38:50.880 And the whole anti-Canadian apparatus, more of the same or worse, not a chance.
00:38:57.040 Well, there's quite a good chance.
00:38:59.020 I think he really is the chosen one from the insiders of the Liberal Party.
00:39:05.720 He's Trudeau's choice.
00:39:06.840 He's Joe Butts and Katie Telford's choice.
00:39:08.640 Boy, the media loved him last night, didn't they?
00:39:12.840 So I think I think Pierre Polyev will beat him.
00:39:17.120 But boy, the regime is not going out without a fight.
00:39:22.400 Eviction Carpentry says, just like Harris, unelected person dropped in place.
00:39:26.880 Well, for the same reason, too, Joe Biden spooked all the Democrats when he had that atrocious Democratic debate against Donald Trump.
00:39:34.120 And so the Democrats said, we've got to get rid of this guy.
00:39:36.280 And they looked around.
00:39:37.700 And I think Mark Carney is probably stronger than Kamala Harris.
00:39:41.060 But like her, he's a sneering, condescending elitist.
00:39:45.580 At least Kamala Harris had won election as a senator and in earlier positions in California.
00:39:54.460 Mark Carney has only been handed things.
00:39:57.480 He's never had to fight for them in a Democratic contest.
00:40:01.000 Last one from Jay Digital, who says, I get the reasoning that clowns need a carny to continue the circus.
00:40:07.840 Yeah, I've seen some jokes about that.
00:40:10.860 But it's actually not joking at all.
00:40:13.080 I think he really does have a strong chance of winning.
00:40:16.160 Remember, it's not about getting people to the polls.
00:40:19.340 It's voting by computer, which can be gamed.
00:40:23.140 AI can cut through it.
00:40:24.700 And no one's better at AI, really, than China.
00:40:26.760 I think that there's a huge chance of election tampering.
00:40:31.040 Even in ways that, you know, even if you follow the rules, 14-year-olds get to vote.
00:40:36.520 Permanent residents get to vote.
00:40:37.940 And when I say vote, they just push buttons on a computer or a phone.
00:40:41.180 Regular Canadian citizens will have no role and have no say in this.
00:40:45.620 It's pretty crazy.
00:40:47.220 Well, that's our show for today.
00:40:48.740 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:40:53.500 And keep fighting for freedom.
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