Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Mark Carney betrayed Canada, Israel by recognizing Palestine

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Just a jam-packed show today. I'll give you my thoughts on Mark Carney approving

00:00:06.080 of a Hamas-driven Palestinian state. It's just so embarrassing for Canada to take that position.

00:00:13.040 We'll also go to the interior of British Columbia, where Drea Humphrey is fighting for the ostriches.

00:00:18.160 If you know, you know. And finally, an incredible hidden recording. Gary Ananda Sangary, that's the

00:00:26.680 public safety minister in Canada, was caught telling a constituent for about 20 minutes

00:00:31.040 about how the liberal firearms policy is pure BS, doesn't work, doesn't make sense. He confessed

00:00:37.780 the whole thing on tape. Just amazing. I want to make sure you can see it, not just here,

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00:01:13.640 Tonight, Mark Carney rewards the terrorist group Hamas, despite promising he wouldn't.

00:01:19.060 It's September 22nd, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:25.000 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:35.640 Well, hi, everybody. There is so much news going on today. In fact, today's show has three huge

00:01:41.420 subjects, including a leaked audio tape of Gary Ananda Sangary, that's the public safety minister,

00:01:48.400 confessing that his liberal gun grab is just for show, and he knows it's baloney. That's an incredible

00:01:54.640 story we'll have later for you. Also, Drea Humphrey on location as authorities start to raid the ostrich 0.93

00:02:02.880 forum in BC. Both incredible stories in their own way. But first, I want to talk a little bit more

00:02:09.000 about what happened on the weekend, yesterday, in fact. I did a video, sort of a homemade video,

00:02:14.940 just on the weekend, but I've been thinking a little bit more about it, about Mark Carney announcing

00:02:20.200 that Canada recognizes Palestine. Here's the tweet. He spells recognize wrong. I mean, that's the

00:02:28.320 British way of spelling it. You know, there's British spellings, there's Canadian spellings,

00:02:31.940 there's American spellings. I find it really weird that the prime minister of this country

00:02:37.400 spells like a Brit. I love Britain, you know that. But does he have some special PR shop back in the

00:02:45.480 UK that's doing extremely important work for him, like announcing that we're recognizing Palestine?

00:02:52.160 We spell it with a Z, and we don't say Z, by the way. I think Mark Carney was away from Canada so long,

00:02:59.900 I don't even think he really likes us. I think he's said that before. He regards himself as European,

00:03:05.000 he regards himself as globalist. He has three passports. We don't know if he's given anything

00:03:09.260 back. I just think that little detail is weird. It's the smallest part of this story,

00:03:13.800 but I wanted to mention it anyways. Now, as I said in my video yesterday, Canada,

00:03:18.180 in fact, did not endorse Palestinian independence. In fact, last year in Parliament,

00:03:25.540 MPs had a vote on the subject, and they did vote to give Palestine recognition with a few big ifs,

00:03:32.840 condition precedents, as they're called in law. Strict conditions before such a gift would be given.

00:03:41.940 And those conditions were actually repeated by Mark Carney himself just two months ago.

00:03:49.320 He did it in writing. He did it orally. He said, first of all, Palestine has to demilitarize. 0.55

00:03:56.200 Second of all, they have to completely remove Hamas. Hamas can't be involved at all in the future.

00:04:01.360 Number three, there has to be democratic reforms, including a free and fair election held next

00:04:09.260 year. Actually, it's just a few months from now, 2026. And finally, he reiterated his call

00:04:15.060 to release hostages. So back in July, Mark Carney, and you could say he had the approval of Parliament

00:04:21.840 to say that, because that was what the motion a year ago said. He said, if these things are done,

00:04:27.140 condition precedent, he used the word predicate, then he would approve of Palestinian statehood.

00:04:35.540 Well, they didn't do any of those things. And yet yesterday, he announced it on a weekend. So of

00:04:42.380 course, there was no question period to hold him accountable. What's so obvious here, if I were to

00:04:48.040 simplify it? Mark Carney recognizes Palestine as a country. But they don't recognize Israel as a

00:04:56.120 country. They want to destroy Israel. And I think this is where we have to ask a few questions of 0.94

00:05:02.720 Mark Carney, or whoever's writing his policy form, maybe we have to go to London to find out. What does

00:05:08.620 he mean by recognizing Palestine as a sovereign nation? What does that mean? I know some elements

00:05:14.100 of a sovereign nation, you have borders, you have a capital, you have a constitution, you have a

00:05:19.280 government, you have a definition of who is a citizen. What does Mark Carney mean? Right now,

00:05:26.380 I don't know if you know the map, but Palestine or the Palestinian Authority has two different

00:05:31.220 geographies. One is called the West Bank, and the other, not connected to it, is called the Gaza Strip.

00:05:38.300 Now, the West Bank, as you may know, is run by a terrorist named Mahmoud Abbas,

00:05:43.160 from the PLO. That's Yasser Arafat's old party, the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

00:05:50.500 He has some control, but it's under Israeli security. So it's sort of like they run the 0.88

00:05:56.560 town councils. It's semi-autonomous, but Israel has control over it militarily. Gaza, on the other hand,

00:06:05.680 Israel completely moved out of Gaza in 2005. In fact, they forced the small number of Jews living 0.63

00:06:12.640 there to leave. They actually dug up the Jewish cemeteries and reburied those Jews elsewhere 0.82

00:06:18.560 because they knew what would happen. Hamas took over in 2005, won the first election,

00:06:25.040 and never bothered having a second one. So for really 20 years, Gaza has been a Hamas terrorist 0.88

00:06:31.540 place. And by the way, the Palestinian Authority that Mahmoud Abbas runs is at odds with Hamas.

00:06:39.160 They hate each other and kill each other. So who is the government? Is it Hamas? Is it the PLO? Is it

00:06:47.760 someone else? Who is the leader of Palestine? Is it who? I mean, I could guess. We don't know

00:06:54.680 because Mark Carney didn't say. Who will represent it to Canada? What's the constitution? And I ask

00:07:01.620 because I think it's important because, for example, Hamas, their charter, as it's called,

00:07:07.040 explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jews. They use the word Jew. It's not

00:07:12.640 just Israelis. So is that the constitution of this new country that Mark Carney supports? What are the

00:07:19.900 borders, by the way? And that's not a trivial question. The borders are quite contentious.

00:07:24.860 Will Jerusalem be part of this new Palestine? Is that the capital? Because they sure say it's 0.99

00:07:32.620 going to be the capital. I don't know if you ever heard that chant, from the river to the sea,

00:07:36.460 Palestine will be free. From the river to the sea, that's a phrase they use in English and in Arabic.

00:07:41.600 Again, if you look at the map, the river is the Jordan River. That's the eastern boundary. And the sea

00:07:47.520 is the Mediterranean Sea. That's the western boundary of Israel. So if you're going to grant statehood to

00:07:54.540 Palestine from the river to the sea, that is the extermination of Israel and the fulfillment of the 0.99

00:08:01.520 Hamas charter to kill every Jew. Is that what Carney supports? He hasn't said. In a way, it's

00:08:11.580 meaningless what he announced. It's not within Canada's gift to create a new country. It's not

00:08:16.580 like we're the, you know, the British empire that was slowly devolving colonies. There was a period of

00:08:22.760 time when the British empire spanned the world, including, uh, what was called mandatory Palestine,

00:08:30.540 including all sorts of parts of India and Africa. Yeah. It was within the power of the empire to

00:08:37.580 decolonize Canada. Really? It's like, that would be like Canada expressing our opinion on some boundary

00:08:45.960 issue with Azerbaijan. Okay. Thanks very much for your opinion. That and 35 cents will buy me a pay

00:08:52.840 phone call. Um, it was already done the granting of a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. That was

00:08:59.600 actually what the UN voted for. I don't know, some almost 80 years ago. And immediately the

00:09:05.980 Palestinian side attacked the Jewish side. It was miracle, miraculous that they succeeded time. And 0.99

00:09:11.100 again, the Arab countries have tried to attack and beat Israel. It's a miracle every time Israel has 1.00

00:09:15.840 survived. Um, nonetheless, Palestinians or those who call themselves Palestinian, even though they're 1.00

00:09:23.740 often from other countries, uh, they have been offered a state about seven or eight times now. Uh,

00:09:31.840 it was the number one visitor to the white house during bill Clinton's term was Yasser Arafat,

00:09:38.740 the head of the PLO. He visited so many times and you know, the, when the Nobel prize with Bill Clinton

00:09:44.440 for a peace deal, immediately renounced it. Um, he said that if he were to ever do a peace deal,

00:09:50.800 he would be killed by his own people. He got everything he wanted. Israel and America basically 0.97

00:09:55.700 said yes to every demand. And at the last minute, Arafat actually wouldn't sign it because he said,

00:10:00.860 I'd be a dead man if I did. Um, the Palestinian political force, whatever it is, is about killing 1.00

00:10:10.560 Jews and ending Israel. It's not about building a new country. That's the Hamas charter. That's why 1.00

00:10:16.400 Gaza looks like Gaza and not like Dubai. Think about it. Gaza was given control of itself in 2005. If they had

00:10:26.240 gone the progressive enlightened route of Dubai, it would look a little bit more like Dubai right now.

00:10:33.540 There would be skyscrapers. There would be beautiful beaches. There would be a strong economy. I mean,

00:10:38.680 it's on the Mediterranean sea. It would be an amazing place, but they chose to make it a terrorist camp.

00:10:44.540 That was a decision they made when Hamas and civilians from Gaza attacked Israel on October 7th,

00:10:51.900 2023. They didn't shout about creating a new country. That's not what they said. They said,

00:10:58.740 we are killing Jews. That's what the attackers said. They didn't mention a new country. That's not what

00:11:04.240 they're up to. Um, Canada is powerless in this whole thing, which is sort of sad. We don't have

00:11:09.560 any military force that would be relevant at all there. No one cares what we say. We don't have any

00:11:14.280 political force, even Justin Trudeau, who thought he was so charming and spent tens of millions of dollars

00:11:19.520 lobbying other countries to get on the Security Council of the UN. No one took Canada seriously

00:11:25.120 whatsoever. Trudeau was just Mr. Fancy Socks. He was a lightweight and always treated so. The only people

00:11:31.420 who ever treated him with respect are the Canadian regime media. So nothing that Mark Carney said yesterday

00:11:38.640 will change what's on the ground other than Hamas will count this as a political win, which they already did.

00:11:45.100 They already made a public statement thanking Canada. Do you feel good about that? Hamas cannot win militarily, 0.65

00:11:51.200 but they can certainly hurt a lot of civilians as they go. They can get political wins like this. Um, but really

00:11:59.860 for Mark Carney, he knows that Israel's not going to listen to him. What does it even mean? He's not even serious

00:12:06.080 enough to have an actual answer to the various questions I just put about borders and prime ministers and presidents.

00:12:11.160 This is a hundred percent for domestic consumption. Three countries made this announcement yesterday in

00:12:18.160 tandem, the United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada, all with overwhelming Islamic immigration from places,

00:12:26.800 by the way, that have nothing to do with Palestine. The mass of immigrants to these three countries are from

00:12:33.080 places like Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Look at a map. They're very far away from

00:12:41.060 Palestine. They've got nothing to do with it. But many people in those countries are anti-Semitic. They just hate Jews.

00:12:47.120 They hate Christians too and hate the West too. Not all of them, obviously not all of them. Some of the finest people I know are Muslims,

00:12:53.880 progressive Muslims who critique those countries. We just, for some weird reason, have taken the worst people in the world. 0.97

00:13:00.820 We're not getting people from Dubai. Why would they come to Canada? As I've told you before, 0.99

00:13:05.600 many senior people in the United Arab Emirates warn parents not to send their kids to school in the UK

00:13:12.660 because they'll be radicalized. The United Arab Emirates, even though it's a benign dictatorship,

00:13:18.200 it's fairly liberal and it's fairly friendly to all people of all backgrounds. There are Jews who walk

00:13:24.960 around openly there. There are synagogues there. They do not allow pro-Hamas protests, unlike Canada.

00:13:31.520 The Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group is banned in the United Arab Emirates, not in the UK, Australia,

00:13:38.440 and Canada. And so these three weak pro-immigration leaders know exactly what they're doing. They can

00:13:45.920 count. In Canada, the Jewish population is just over 300,000 people. And it's been that way flat for about

00:13:52.280 20 years. Whereas the Muslim population has quadrupled in those same 20 years to about 2 million.

00:13:58.200 And I think the real number is closer to 3 million when you add in temporary visitors. So if you're a politician

00:14:05.320 and you have a wobbly minority government like Mark Carney does, you're going to go hard on this,

00:14:11.500 especially since you want to sop up those votes from the parties on the left. If you follow UK politics, as I do,

00:14:17.320 you'll know that there's a new party that's being born. They're called your party, Jeremy Corbyn and

00:14:24.680 a Muslim female MP. Now they're having a bit of a rocky start. It's an expressly pro-Gaza, 1.00

00:14:30.760 pro-Muslim party. Jeremy Corbyn himself is not Muslim, but he's sort of the token white face of this 0.68

00:14:36.440 party. That is a dire threat to the Labor Party, which has traditionally got the Muslim vote. So you'll 0.99

00:14:42.200 see Keir Starmer in the UK going harder and harder towards the Islamist side to compete with his 0.91

00:14:47.560 breakaway Muslim party. I say again, many Muslims are not terrorist supporters, but we don't vet.

00:14:54.040 We don't check. We let the worst people in. We're not like the United Arab Emirates. That's what's 1.00

00:14:59.000 going on here. What does this mean for the Middle East? I don't think it'll mean anything other than

00:15:04.440 Hamas thinks that it's got some stupid allies, some useful idiots in the West. And it does. But I think

00:15:10.920 here in Canada, we're going to see a spike in anti-Semitism and I believe more violence. I mean,

00:15:18.120 you've more or less denounced Israel as genocidal, illegal terrorists. You've morally flipped things

00:15:25.720 over when the prime minister of the country leads by example to demonize the Jewish state and has

00:15:32.440 abandoned any conditions on the on the Hamas side. That's a starter pistol. That's a bad example. And 0.97

00:15:40.200 that is what Canada is going to do. I think we're in for a rough time domestically. The answer is a

00:15:45.400 principled foreign policy, which can come about only in my view with mass re-migration.

00:15:53.720 Stay with us. More ahead.

00:15:55.320 Hey, as I mentioned earlier, we have two other great parts today show. I just what a day for news. I want

00:16:10.600 to show you, um, an interview I did with Tracy Wilson. She is a pro firearms advocate who got this

00:16:17.720 incredible audio tape. Someone had a 20 minute conversation with Canada's public safety minister,

00:16:24.360 Gary Anandasangari. 20 minutes where he recorded Gary talking about how the liberal firearms buyback

00:16:32.680 is just for show. It doesn't work. It makes no sense. It's incredible. And it's all on tape because

00:16:40.120 the person Gary was talking to, I say Gary, Gary Anandasangari, um, was taping it and cabinet

00:16:46.600 minister Gary didn't know. It's unbelievable. We'll play some of that for you a little bit later, but

00:16:51.400 first let me go to the interior of British Columbia where our Drea Humphrey is live on location 0.93

00:16:57.400 at the ostrich farm. And you might be thinking ostriches. I don't care about ostriches. It's not

00:17:01.800 actually about ostriches. Ostriches are the, are the news peg. This is about government invasion of private

00:17:08.040 property, government seizure and culling of private property. The birds government junk science being

00:17:14.360 implemented as public health and foolish COVID style rules that make no sense trumping common sense.

00:17:22.680 There's so much going on here and people I think have become riveted by this story. Andrea Humphrey

00:17:28.120 is on the scene. Here's Drea. Andrea has some signal and let's, uh, quickly connect with her 0.99

00:17:37.560 while we do. Drea, how you doing? Oh my goodness, boss. It has been quite a day. All of the supporters

00:17:45.720 have been, you know, no one slept a wink, um, for the viewers who don't know what's been happening

00:17:52.040 since yesterday. Actually, let me backpedal just a little, just to show, uh, how much Rebel News has

00:17:58.760 been covering this issue. So on Thursday, we broke the name of the truck company that was being

00:18:07.400 used to rent out, uh, some of the vehicles to bring some supplies with the help of a brave whistleblower.

00:18:14.040 We brought that attention to the public. And shortly after that, Clearway car and truck rentals

00:18:20.440 said, we don't want anything to do with this. We didn't know that that's where our vehicles were

00:18:25.000 going. We don't want, uh, we love animals and this is not a hill for us to die on. So they started

00:18:30.920 demanding back their vehicles, which caused somewhat of a delay. I don't know how long,

00:18:36.680 but the CFIA did in fact have to find a replacement. Then yesterday, I broke the news of

00:18:43.640 the likely company that's been contracted to go ahead and do the disposal. And that is

00:18:50.520 new core environmental solutions. So just so you know, at save the ostriches.com, you never know.

00:18:57.080 We do have a respectful way for you to demand that they back out of this plan to,

00:19:03.320 um, to at save the ostriches.com. So that was sort of what's happened. That's kind of part of

00:19:10.040 why there's been the delay. And then we got word that, um, last night there was about 15 to 20 RCMP

00:19:18.040 making their way to Vernon. So everybody was on guard going into place of what they've had planned here,

00:19:24.200 I guess, for the, for the last, I mean, it's been nine months. Some people have been here since

00:19:29.640 January. Wow. And, um, so they got into position and then Intel said, nope, they're staying at a

00:19:37.560 conference that's taking place at the prestige hotel. Um, I mean, they was reporting what they

00:19:45.480 could hear from the conference of the RCMP. And so from that, uh, later on, they learned that they

00:19:51.720 were going to get some shed eye. There was a lot of men walking around in black with walkie talkies.

00:19:56.680 And then around 3 50 this morning, it was really weird. Um, cause I just had fallen asleep around

00:20:04.360 2 30 AM and I woke up at three, like five minutes before I got a text saying they're,

00:20:12.120 they're getting out, they're getting to their cars. And, um, so that Intel was correct.

00:20:19.080 And they got together, they had their coffee and the, I would say there's about the police

00:20:28.040 that were on the way. There's two, um, sort of the station type of vehicles where they're going to be

00:20:34.760 remotely, you know, having their conversations. What's that called? Sorry. Those big trucks where they're

00:20:39.240 stationed inside. Um, anyways, where the, the RCMP are stationed in there. And the first thing that

00:20:44.600 happened, um, if you look down here is the RCMP came here. They said their liaison.

00:20:57.320 I believe they're from E division, according to my Intel. And that means officers from all over

00:21:03.800 British Columbia, not just we're trying to negotiate because there's a bit of a blockade that's happening.

00:21:09.000 The farmers saying they had nothing to do with it. They're going to work on trying to remove it.

00:21:13.480 I do have, uh, I have video of all of this. It's just hard to get it out fast, of course. So

00:21:19.080 I'm doing my best with that. Um, so the first blockade, which was trees and

00:21:24.600 some metal things, and I don't even know what it all was, but I did record it has been removed.

00:21:30.120 Jeff, who is helping with the farm said, I'm going to throw you guys an olive branch,

00:21:34.360 but get this as that's happening. We start to hear some screaming happening on the road

00:21:40.360 behind us, the same road that we're on. Um, and this is one of their neighbor's house right here

00:21:46.600 on the corner. So the blockages is happening on a road that is shared by both the farm.

00:21:53.720 Let me just break this down. There's actually two farm properties. It's co-owned. So over here is owned

00:22:01.240 by ostrich farmer, Dave Belinsky. And over here is owned by Karen Esperson. So they share this road with

00:22:12.600 this neighbor over here and screaming started happening. And a man who was dressed in all black

00:22:21.240 with a black mask was going through the neighbor's property with a jerry can. Um, so at first we're

00:22:29.800 thinking as someone trying to put the whole place up in flames, then, um, the RCMP get welcomed on because

00:22:37.320 the farmers say, say we have had troubles with this neighbor. And if you recall two, not one,

00:22:43.320 but two ostriches mysteriously died. They believe they were shot, um, while they've been taking on

00:22:48.920 this battle. So the RCMP were welcomed onto the property at that point to go to the neighbor's

00:22:54.840 house, investigate what happened. Um, they brought the dogs on. Now, of course they got to see some of

00:23:00.520 the other barriers in place that the protesters have put up while they did that. But then the plot

00:23:07.800 thickens and, uh, one of the supporters says it was me and he claims it was him and the RCMP arrested

00:23:17.080 him. He was not wearing the same outfit. Um, so I don't know if he got changed or what have you. And

00:23:22.600 they arrested him. He's a man named Tim. I've met quite a few times coming out here. He's usually spotted

00:23:28.760 in my videos, uh, driving in an ATV back and forth, doing the maintenance for the farm, helping out the

00:23:34.920 farm, volunteering so they could, you know, spend more time on their legal fight and all of this

00:23:40.120 battle. He said it was him. The RCMP arrested him. I did some interviews with some of the people here

00:23:47.960 on the farm and they just don't believe it's him. Some of them.

00:23:51.080 It's so weird. You know what? It's so complicated. The different web of intrigue, um, that's going on

00:23:58.840 here. I mean, you've got the, the birds and the bird supporters. You've got an angry neighbor who

00:24:04.840 some people think has been taking anti ostrich matters into his own hands. Um, we, we played the

00:24:11.480 clip of the shouting and the guy in the jerry can, and now to have a bird ally say it was him. It's just,

00:24:17.400 it's a mystery is layers of mystery upon mystery. Um, I just, I just spoke, I just want to say just

00:24:26.040 before, uh, we, uh, I saw you were online, I got a call from Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter.

00:24:31.320 She is on route to you. It is not a quick journey. It is an 11 hour journey. And I, it sounds to me,

00:24:38.440 she's about an hour into it. She's got to go down to Calgary, get the Starlink. She's got a camper van.

00:24:44.280 Cause I understand you're staying in a tent on the ground. Is that right?

00:24:49.480 Well, I must admit there is a, a lovely supporter who has put me in quite the glamping tent. It's a

00:24:56.520 teepee tent. So it's not as bad as it sounds. And she's got an air mattress for me. Um, so I can

00:25:04.600 show you it's one of those teepee tents down there. Okay. Well, that's super nice of them. Uh,

00:25:10.520 I know you had that RV that we crowdfunded for you, but I saw you in Calgary on, on Friday. And I

00:25:17.080 know you had to race back to BC. You were giving a speech at a conference in Friday, but then you,

00:25:22.760 when you heard about the ostrich news, you flew down there, uh, faster than an ostrich can run.

00:25:30.040 And, um, so, so you didn't have time to get the RV again. And, and, and the internet is the main

00:25:36.040 thing. I think, although we're able to connect with you a little bit this way. Um, so you think

00:25:41.320 the police came on to sort of scout it out? Let me ask you, have you seen any police drones or

00:25:47.720 helicopters in the sky? Well, it looks like maybe we have, so we're getting reports that there are

00:25:56.680 helicopters.

00:25:57.560 This is why we want the star link. Cause the connection is pretty iffy. Sorry. Keep going.

00:26:06.680 I think we have you back now. Go ahead.

00:26:14.360 Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead. Hello. Yeah. That there are helicopters at St.

00:26:21.480 Jordan. People are claiming they are military helicopters nearby. Um, so I think I'm very delayed

00:26:30.280 because I think you're responding to something I said quite some time ago.

00:26:34.200 Isn't that very interesting. So you're saying there are no police

00:26:38.920 in the farm right now, but there are police at the gates of the farm. Is that correct?

00:26:45.560 No, the police have been walking at the neighbor's property with dogs and everything like that. And now

00:26:51.320 they are back on the outside. Um, there is some talk about a warrant coming. And, um, so the farmers

00:26:58.760 are on guard. The farmers are all inside of a pen. And I don't know if you got my answer about the

00:27:03.080 helicopters, but there are helicopters parked nearby at St. Paul's. I just want to show you the table

00:27:10.360 here. The table at the farm has, um, sort of all of the news that has been shedding light on their

00:27:16.680 important fight. And look how big rebel news. His name is there.

00:27:24.600 Well, that's great. It's true. You have covered this very well and you're on the scene. Are there

00:27:29.960 other journalists there? Are there other citizen journalists there?

00:27:32.840 Uh, I, I do see one has come from Surrey. So he's running around here. Global news has been here,

00:27:42.360 um, the last couple of days as well. And that's all pretty much.

00:27:47.160 Well, I'm so glad you're there. And, and I should say, I saw, I did see global news, this piece and

00:27:52.440 it was quite fair. So good. Well, that's a pleasant surprise. Cause I mean, I don't know a lot about

00:27:58.600 ostriches other than they're a large flightless bird. And I think they're related to dinosaurs.

00:28:05.000 Um, I don't think I have a deep affection for the bird. They, I don't know if they're cuddly,

00:28:10.520 they seem aggressive, but here's why I care about this story. And I think our viewers care about it

00:28:16.200 for a variety of reasons. As Sheila said, there's a property rights issue here, the farm and not just

00:28:21.560 the farm, but the birds themselves. There's the stupid rules, stupid bureaucracy, stupid authority,

00:28:28.200 telling you to do something that makes no sense just because it's a rule and the, the order to

00:28:33.480 kill hundreds of birds because of some obscure unscientific hunch, or, or it, I think offends

00:28:42.680 people and it reminds them of how COVID was. I think the fact that it just doesn't make any sense

00:28:48.040 to kill all these large animals because hundreds of days ago, one of them might have tested sick.

00:28:56.040 I think another reason is that they won't allow the farm to test them now to prove that they're

00:28:59.960 healthy. I think there's so many layers to this. And as if this is a policing priority, like it,

00:29:07.880 like Canada's in the midst of a massive crime wave, but how many police are going to be part of this

00:29:12.920 raid? It's, are those some of the reasons this story has resonated? Cause I'm, I mean, I, I like animals.

00:29:20.040 I love dogs. I, I haven't really thought about ostriches with some friendliness, but now I feel

00:29:26.200 protective of the ostriches. I think it, like you said, it's a nonpartisan issue. Everybody at its

00:29:33.320 core understands that healthy animals should not be killed for no reason. And why, why are you not

00:29:38.600 retesting them? Why do the farmers go to jail if they spend their own money to test them? And I should

00:29:45.160 point out that not a single ostrich behind me has ever been tested. These are all untested birds.

00:29:51.720 It's just two of the very young, uh, deceased carcasses that were test with an anal swab with

00:30:00.120 the PCR tests to which a scientist I interviewed had already said was over-cycled when he looks

00:30:06.360 through the information. Um, so they will not retest these animals to prove the farmers right. And this is

00:30:13.800 also a matter of not having such freedom of science, the freedom to explore the scientific

00:30:20.440 avenues. Other people want to explore. We know Moderna is working hard on a MRNA vaccine to address

00:30:27.000 avian flu. Whereas the United States wants to partner with the farm to work on antibody therapeutics

00:30:34.280 to address these types of things. RFK Jr. has said he doesn't want to deal with leaky vaccines anymore.

00:30:40.600 And I wish to tell you yesterday, Canada's only avian flu case, the 13 year old girl

00:30:54.760 Looks like the cell connection has faded just for a second, but I tell you when I hear COVID-19,

00:30:59.240 when I hear Moderna, you know, my, I get my hackles up and I think a lot of people do because we know how

00:31:05.560 unscientific and they, that was and how stupid many of their arbitrary rules was. Hey, let me ask you

00:31:11.560 a question. I think you can hear me now. You just faded out for one second there. Uh, there's a five

00:31:16.360 minute video we have. Um, and I think this was before you, you got there. I haven't watched it yet.

00:31:21.960 You've described it as RCMP officer, Paul Britton was on the farm. You said you thought it was a,

00:31:29.320 to do a visual check before the pre-call briefing is in how many vehicles or protesters are present.

00:31:35.000 Uh, tell me a little bit about that. And then I think we'll play that clip because, you know,

00:31:40.680 there has been a constant communication between the police and the farm. Tell me a little bit about

00:31:45.400 that clip and then we'll play the clip. Yes, that's right. And it turned, you know,

00:31:53.320 my guests seem to be right. Uh, the farmers weren't sure if he, his presence, Paul Britton,

00:31:58.200 who I believe is out of Nakas nearby. So sort of a local RCMP officer who has come many times,

00:32:03.320 we've captured him before. And, uh, you know, the farmers claim he looked like he was tearing up.

00:32:07.560 They don't believe he wants to do any of this and he's grown fond of the people here. Um, but they

00:32:12.200 thought that his president presence might mean, you know, around the corner, it was about to go

00:32:17.000 down. Um, I actually had some intel from someone who has worked this kind of thing. And they did say,

00:32:23.480 no, there's going to be a final briefing. The RCMP, they're going to, they're going to treat this like

00:32:27.960 a big situation and they are going to do a final briefing with everyone at a nearby hotel. And sure

00:32:34.760 enough, that's exactly what happened. They went back, they stationed in Vernon, they got a boardroom,

00:32:40.600 they all met at the prestige hotel. They had their meeting and then they dispersed

00:32:44.520 to, uh, two other hotels for the night. All right. Do you have anything else you

00:32:50.200 want to add before we go to that clip? Cause, uh, we can let you go and reconnect with you.

00:32:54.360 Um, it's, it's a five minute clip. You can stay on the, on the call if you want,

00:32:58.360 or, or we can let you go and reconnect later. I'll just say a couple of things. Number one,

00:33:03.400 you might want to show the video of Karen Esperson, uh, you know, minutes before the RCMP

00:33:08.760 arrived to start this process of the call. Okay. And I just want to say thank you for

00:33:13.560 everybody who has been supporting their fight. I didn't rent the van this time, but I did have

00:33:18.600 to cancel speaking engagement, which means we're on the hook for the hotel that couldn't be canceled

00:33:24.840 as well as for the flight, uh, that was too late to cancel. Um, so there was those types of expenses.

00:33:30.520 I did rent a car to be here and I'm renting it by the day extending, but who knows how long it's

00:33:37.560 going to be. Um, but you guys have really made all of this boots on the ground coverage possible

00:33:42.440 and you can continue to do so at save the ostriches.com.

00:33:46.200 Gary and Andesangari is the name of our public safety minister, our equivalent of the homeland

00:34:01.720 security minister in the United States. You may recall the crazy thing is that, um, Gary was affiliated,

00:34:09.000 was associated with an actual terrorist group called the Tamil Tigers, or also known as the

00:34:15.720 liberation tigers of the Tamil Elam. They are a prohibited terrorist group, just like Hamas is. 0.94

00:34:23.320 And yet he was affiliated with them. Incredibly, he has been appointed in charge of counter-terrorism.

00:34:31.080 That's what the public safety ministers, one of his several jobs are, except for when the issue

00:34:36.360 of the Tamil Tigers comes up, he's supposed to recuse himself because he's too close to them. It's insane. 0.65

00:34:43.960 You already know we have a fire Gary campaign. I'm deeply embarrassed in the face of the world,

00:34:50.280 because as you know, we're part of the five eyes group that shares intelligence. Those are the,

00:34:54.920 like the super friends of world countries, United States, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.

00:35:00.840 Who could possibly trust Canada when our public safety minister literally is affiliated,

00:35:06.840 associated with a terrorist group. That's not me saying it. That's the government saying it to

00:35:13.000 explain why he's not allowed to work on their files. Anyways, this Gary, what a character he is.

00:35:19.480 Like so many other liberal MPs, he has another job or several other jobs on the side just to keep the

00:35:25.640 cash coming in. And it won't surprise you to learn that one of those jobs is he's a landlord. I don't

00:35:30.680 know if he's as prolific a landlord as Gregor Robertson, but you could probably understand why

00:35:35.640 MPs love high housing prices because that was the investment they all made. They knew that by bringing

00:35:41.960 in mass immigration, the prices for housing would only go up at supply and demand. So our friend Gary,

00:35:49.640 when he's not hanging out with the Tamil Tigers, is busy being a landlord out there collecting rents and

00:35:55.880 all that. Could you imagine? It's almost too ridiculous even to tell the story. So he, he's

00:36:01.240 talking to one of his tenants and one of his tenants is a firearms owner and is needless to say,

00:36:09.080 frustrated by the fact that Gary and Anne Sangery is with the liberals and they believe in clamping down

00:36:16.520 on legal lawful gun owners, including instead of the crime wave. And by the way, Gary A is in the

00:36:24.280 greater Toronto area, Scarborough, probably ground zero for the crime wave. And yet Gary's going after

00:36:31.080 people like his law abiding tenant who gave him a piece of his mind. Here's the wrinkle.

00:36:36.760 When Tamil Tiger Gary was talking to his tenant about guns, his tenant recorded the conversation

00:36:44.120 unbeknownst to Gary. And that audio tape made its way to Tracy Wilson, who is a firearms rights activist,

00:36:52.760 and she released it to the media. Here, let me play just a minute or so of the tape. It's sort of

00:37:00.040 incredible. It goes on for 20 minutes and we won't play the whole thing, but just listen to a minute or

00:37:04.120 two. These guys, I hate to say with your kitchen release policies, these guys are caught, right?

00:37:09.560 Might spend a couple of days in jail, get a bail hearing and out they go. But you're taking stuff

00:37:14.680 away from people that aren't at all. Yeah, listen, it's voluntary, okay? So what's the third option?

00:37:23.400 So I deactivate, I turn them in. What's the third option? Third option is you don't do either. And?

00:37:33.400 What does that mean? Then it's up to the local police. So then what does that mean to become?

00:37:37.480 Yeah. What's that? A criminal. If police enforce it, yes. Well, of course the police are going to

00:37:44.760 enforce it. Because you're going to mandate. Well, it's already in the criminal code. It's

00:37:49.880 already written in the criminal code. So basically you're saying, if I don't deactivate or return

00:37:57.800 at a loss, I'm going to be a criminal. In your case, what are your losses? You're telling me

00:38:05.480 out personally. So that was Tracy Wilson, who you've seen on our show before. Sheila Gunn Reads talks to

00:38:13.480 her all the time. She was leaked this tape because this guy was a real firearms rights activist.

00:38:20.920 And she played it on her YouTube page. And let me tell you, that is a true document. In fact,

00:38:27.400 I'm just looking at the Toronto Star, a huge story. Let me read the headline,

00:38:32.920 Liberals' push for gun buyback program, fueled by pressure from Quebec, public safety minister says

00:38:39.640 in leaked audio, a gun-owning tenant recorded a conversation with public safety minister

00:38:45.160 Gary Ann Anderson-Gery without the minister's knowledge. Now, I should tell you that half of

00:38:49.400 the story in the Toronto Star is how mean it is that Gary Ann Anderson-Gery didn't know, and he

00:38:57.080 wouldn't have been so honest if he knew it was being recorded. Like, half of it is crying over

00:39:03.320 the fact that poor Gary, his true thoughts were allowed into the world. It's anti-journalism,

00:39:09.800 isn't it? Journalism would be, what does he have to say when he's speaking candidly? What does he have

00:39:14.280 to say when he's talking to friends? What does he have to say when he is not worried about being

00:39:19.080 politically correct? A gaffe, as they say, is when a politician accidentally tells the truth,

00:39:24.120 and Gary Ann Anderson-Gery accidentally told the truth, and the Toronto Star is furious

00:39:29.960 that someone would record him. Hey, that's their job. Well, joining us now is the person who got

00:39:34.840 the tape and made it public, Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights. Tracy,

00:39:40.280 great to see you. It's nice to see you too, Ezra. How are you? I'm great. What a scoop you had. Now,

00:39:46.280 I'm not going to ask you to give away any secrets, but tell me just a little bit about how you came

00:39:52.200 into possession of this tape, because it's a bit of a bombshell. Yeah, so I was just enjoying a lazy

00:39:59.320 Sunday afternoon yesterday, and a call came into the CCFR Answering Service from somebody who said

00:40:05.640 their landlord, Gary, is going to be launching a buyback program for confiscation of legal firearms

00:40:12.920 on Tuesday. And I thought, your landlord, Gary, does he mean the Minister of Public Safety? So I called

00:40:19.320 the number that the guy was at, and we had a conversation, and the whole thing started, you're

00:40:23.800 right, this guy is a tenant at one of Gary Ann Anderson-Gery's many rental properties, and he had

00:40:30.280 some issues with his landlord that he wanted to discuss about the building. So he was actually recording

00:40:35.320 it to hold him accountable for landlord issues. Gary, knowing this tenant for a very long time,

00:40:42.680 also knew that he was a gun owner. So at the end of 32 minutes of discussion about the rental unit,

00:40:50.360 Gary volunteered the information. He's the one who brought it up. And he said, hey, I got to tell you

00:40:55.240 something else. We're launching the confiscation program on Tuesday. And from there, they had a 20-minute

00:41:01.480 debate about the merits of the program. The minister offered to pay his bail should he be arrested for

00:41:07.320 noncompliance. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. The minister also said he confirmed what we knew, that we would

00:41:14.520 not be getting fair compensation for our firearms. And he promised his tenant that whatever he was short

00:41:21.560 on the value of those firearms, he would personally compensate him for, which is outrageous.

00:41:26.760 Yes. You know what's so interesting about that is that he is acknowledging that it's unfair and

00:41:32.760 people are going to get a raw deal. And he's saying, look, because we're friends, I won't let

00:41:37.880 you be one of the hundreds of thousands of people screwed over. I'll personally fix what I know is a

00:41:43.640 flawed bill. If he's saying, I know the short changes people, but you're protected because you're

00:41:50.120 connected to me. And I'm Big Gary. I'm the big shot. I'm big shot with the Tamil Tigers. I'm such a big

00:41:55.960 shot. I'm in cabinet, even though I'm connected to the terrorists. Holy smoke. And hey, if you're

00:42:00.520 arrested, I'll do some finessing. Don't you worry. That's, you know what? It's not just outrageous

00:42:07.080 the way he conducts itself. It's crazy that he's a landlord with many units. That's obvious. And if

00:42:12.520 he's got an hour and he'll give special favors to his, to people who do him a financial favor,

00:42:17.880 like being a tenant, he'll give a special favor to a friend and a tenant who pays him as opposed to

00:42:23.240 some ordinary stranger. Look, that in itself is a conflict right there. And apparently he's got an

00:42:28.680 hour to spend talking to one particular tenant. You and I couldn't get an hour with him. Oh no.

00:42:34.760 Unless we were with the Tamil Tigers or something. This guy is out of control. 0.81

00:42:37.880 I've been camped outside his office on Wellington Street. Actually all last week, I was camped out

00:42:43.240 there making videos all week long as the largest stakeholder on this file in the country.

00:42:48.680 I'm trying to get a meeting with this guy and the minister just totally ignores us. Well,

00:42:52.840 you know, if he had offered me the opportunity for a meeting, I probably would have advised him

00:42:57.800 not to counsel people to break the law, because he also told his tenant that not to worry about getting

00:43:04.280 arrested should he not comply, because there's not enough resources with law enforcement to actually

00:43:09.560 enforce it. So don't really worry about it. There will not be. What do you think may have done better?

00:43:16.440 I mean, it's being rolled out of A. Look, I'll tell you, if I were to redo this from the beginning,

00:43:21.000 like I'm picking up where it was left off, right? And that's- But you don't have the power.

00:43:26.040 That's a rolled back. But this is the mandate I was given by Carney to complete this-

00:43:31.640 Yeah, because you guys look like fools rolling, like stepping back.

00:43:35.480 And not revisit this. But that's my objective, right? Just to put an end to this and move on with

00:43:44.200 other additional criminal justice tools, including on bail, including on increasing penalties for people

00:43:53.880 who have illegal and, you know, unlicensed firearms. Sort of really the things that we're already going to be doing.

00:44:02.440 But this is just not new. This has been happening over again.

00:44:07.400 Over again. I'll tell you. Going forward, it'll be a different approach.

00:44:12.200 Okay? This is completing something that was started five years ago that, you know, frankly-

00:44:18.680 But as the minister, you can sit down with Mark and say, listen, there's something,

00:44:25.720 we need to address these four issues.

00:44:27.560 We've had all these conversations. Like, I've had for the last four months, it's been like constant,

00:44:33.320 constant discussions on this to see what's next, right? And the conclusion is, let's finish this.

00:44:39.800 We're going to be committed to it in the campaign. Like-

00:44:42.680 By campaign promises, but we've been broken in the past.

00:44:45.400 I know.

00:44:46.440 So why must you go through on this one?

00:44:48.840 There's- look. Just say it, Sean.

00:44:52.680 You know what's wrong?

00:44:55.080 Quebec, for example, is in a very different place in Ontario, right?

00:44:58.360 We're talking about Canada. It's a federal, it's not-

00:45:01.400 I get it. Quebec is in a different place than other parts of Canada, right?

00:45:06.120 And this is something that is very much a big, big, big deal for many of the Quebec

00:45:13.000 electorate that were for us, right? And that's one of the major things.

00:45:17.080 Yes, that's what he told us. It's all in the audio.

00:45:19.560 It's almost like, you know, ESP or a mind reader.

00:45:23.480 Sometimes people, the fantasy, what if I could read your mind?

00:45:27.640 That never happens. That's a daydream. That's a science fiction novel.

00:45:32.360 This guy actually said what was his secrets. He gave away his secrets. He gave away what was in

00:45:39.160 his mind. It's BS. You won't be arrested. If you do turn in your gun, we're not going to pay

00:45:44.360 you the right amount. Hey, you're connected to me. So if you're arrested, I'll fix it for you.

00:45:49.640 What a crooked guy. But it's like some science fiction episode where you actually read someone's

00:45:56.920 mind. And what's so crazy is half of this Toronto Star article is just saying, hey,

00:46:02.120 that's really not fair. Although as you point out, it's Tamil Tiger Gary who brought this thing up.

00:46:08.680 The tenant was just talking about problems with the apartment, but this guy brought up the subject.

00:46:13.640 Oh yeah. Just maybe to appease him or something. Yeah. Like the tenant didn't ask him anything

00:46:19.160 about it. Gary volunteered this information. He initiated the conversation. He even went on a

00:46:25.800 10 minute back and forth about the merits of the program. And he admitted that he's stuck with this

00:46:31.000 as a, you know, a Trudeau era policy. So he's been told by Carney to just get it done. But if he had

00:46:36.680 the opportunity to go back in time, he would do things very differently, that this program is not

00:46:41.560 going to work and that he would instead focus on criminals with illegal guns. But this is where

00:46:46.840 they're at. So they're going to forge ahead. They're they've budgeted $746 million on this program

00:46:53.720 that's capped. So any gun owners who don't get in on that pot of money will have their firearms

00:46:59.480 confiscated and get nothing. So, yeah. You know, the Toronto Star really emphasizes how mean it is to

00:47:07.400 actually quote a cabinet minister speaking the truth? It's so weird. They would never say that

00:47:12.760 about any other cabinet minister. They know this is very embarrassing and they're fans of

00:47:18.360 the Liberals. I mean, some of the quotes in the 20 minute tape are,

00:47:22.920 um, don't ask me to explain the logic to you on this. Okay. And then the man says, we're not the

00:47:28.600 problem, Gary, to which Ananda Sangry says, I realized that. So he realizes the law abiding

00:47:36.040 gun owners are not the problem, but he's doing it anyways. Cause, uh, as this, as his explanation 0.99

00:47:41.240 goes, Quebec demands it. This is the mandate I was given by Carney to complete this and not revisit this.

00:47:48.280 Ananda Sangry says, that's my objective. Just put an end to this and move with other additional

00:47:53.400 criminal justice tools, including on bail, including on penalties for people who have,

00:47:58.440 I don't know. It's just, I don't know. I don't know. Municipal, I just don't think municipal police

00:48:04.120 services have the resources to do this. Well, right. I think, right. I mean,

00:48:08.520 Delighted Law is in debt, right? You're just going to keep adding to the debt. How much, how much do you,

00:48:14.200 how much do you guys think this is going to cost? The budget for this was 742 million.

00:48:20.360 742, 340 billion dollars. That's their budget. That's their budget. Yeah.

00:48:25.880 So let's double it. Let's be honest. I don't know. We won't, we won't go that far.

00:48:29.560 We're capping it. That's it. We're not. Oh, so let's say, so you take the fire and you said,

00:48:34.840 was it New Brunswick? Yeah. You start with them. Sorry, they'll start. You start with them

00:48:39.720 at whatever the cost that is. And you work across the country, however way you want to rule the program.

00:48:45.000 I mean, Alberta, Danielle, she'd really tell you, go F yourself. Yeah.

00:48:49.160 Yeah. Yeah. He agrees that this is not going to do anything for public safety,

00:48:53.480 but Carney's ordered him just do it, get it over with, get it done. They're being pressured by

00:49:00.200 members of the Quebec caucus. And I think we know exactly who that is. An anti-gun lobbyist was

00:49:05.080 elected as a member of parliament in the last federal election. So I recognize that she is got a front row

00:49:12.120 seat to this and she's pushing really hard to continue the attack on legal gun owners. So 1.00

00:49:19.000 he's like, you know what, going forward, it won't be this bad. Let's just get through this.

00:49:23.240 Let us confiscate all this stuff. Some people will get paid some money, other people won't,

00:49:29.560 you know, and then going forward, we won't be so tough on gun owners. That's what he says. So yeah,

00:49:35.160 it's, it was shocking to me to hear this. So I had to go back to the tenant and say,

00:49:40.040 you know, um, I, I need your permission to put this out there because to me, it's very shocking

00:49:45.000 and Canadians deserve to hear it. And he said, he told the ministers flat to his face that he wasn't

00:49:50.760 going to be complying with this gun ban. And he said, uh, this is my line in the sand and I'm drawing

00:49:56.120 it. And if I'm willing to go to prison to stand up for my morals, I'm willing to be evicted too.

00:50:01.000 So, wow. We have a petition at fire gary.ca. There was a whole bunch of reasons to fire him

00:50:08.840 before this, but he needs to be fired. Now, first of all, how much time does he spend as a landlord?

00:50:14.520 Like, I'm just curious. I don't know what you, I mean, and I'm not saying that no politician

00:50:21.480 should have an outside job, but he's a cabinet minister. So he gets double pay. He's got an

00:50:26.760 extremely busy file. You just said he won't meet with you, but he'll spend an hour kibitzing with a

00:50:33.240 tenant. And not just that saying, I'll make sure the law doesn't apply to you. If you get in trouble,

00:50:38.600 I'll bail you out. Don't you worry about enforcement. I'll take care of that. Like the,

00:50:44.840 the tape shows corruption in itself. Now, this was brought up in parliament, uh, just earlier today.

00:50:53.240 I think we have a clip of the exchange here. Let's take a look. Gary and Anna Sangary, um,

00:51:00.520 is not big on explanations, but boy, he sure has decided he's the victim here. Let's take a look.

00:51:06.200 The Liberals are setting criminals free. They're wasting money. They are targeting sports shooters

00:51:22.120 and recreational shooters who abide by the law. The Liberals have increased firearm-related crime by

00:51:28.840 30%. That we already knew. Yet the minister of public safety accidentally revealed the truth

00:51:36.440 and was recorded doing so. He said that confiscating the firearms of law-abiding firearm owners was a

00:51:45.720 waste of money. Does the prime minister agree with his minister?

00:51:49.400 Mr. Speaker, on Sunday, I had a conversation with an individual that I've known for many years

00:51:59.640 who recorded it without my knowledge and had it lead to a gun lobbyist. In that conversation,

00:52:06.120 Mr. Speaker, the subject of the assault-style firearms buyback compensation program was discussed.

00:52:11.800 In trying to address, um, in, in trying to address this issue, Mr. Speaker, the individual's frustration,

00:52:17.880 my cons- my comments were misguided. Having said that, Mr. Speaker, it's important to have,

00:52:22.920 uh, uh, the program in place is what Canadians are looking for. And I do want to note that the

00:52:27.480 Leader of the Opposition has voted against every single gun measure. The Honourable Leader of the

00:52:32.920 Opposition. By freeing rampant gun criminals and wasting billions of dollars of police and border 0.64

00:52:43.080 resources targeting law-abiding licensed, trained and tested firearms owners, this government has

00:52:49.400 overseen a 130% increase in violent gun crime. But over the weekend, the Minister of Public Safety

00:52:58.600 accidentally told the truth, and he was recorded doing it. He said that the gun grab is not worth

00:53:04.280 the money, that it will go over budget, and it would be better just to lock up the criminals,

00:53:08.840 but that they're going ahead with the bad policy because it's good politics. Does the Prime Minister

00:53:12.680 agree? The Honourable Minister of Public Safety. Mr. Speaker, it's a good thing there's a recording

00:53:21.320 of it so that, uh, Canadians can have a look for themselves. Um, let me be very clear, Mr. Speaker,

00:53:26.840 Canadians want responsible gun control. They wanted it in 1989 after a man killed 14 women

00:53:33.720 at École Polytechnique. They wanted it after six people were murdered at the Quebec City mosque

00:53:38.920 shooting. And they wanted it after the biggest mass shooting in our history, where a man opened fire

00:53:44.200 and killed 22 people in Nova Scotia. Mr. Speaker, why are the Conservatives against keeping guns off our

00:53:50.840 streets? The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. Mr. Speaker, the Minister said that his gun grab won't work,

00:53:59.880 that it will go over budget, and that it would be better to lock up criminals, as Conservatives have

00:54:05.080 been suggesting, but that they're going ahead with the gun grab anyway because the Prime Minister wants

00:54:11.400 to pursue electoral politics. Electoral politics, Mr. Speaker. When a mother is hit with a stray bullet,

00:54:19.560 or a police officer is murdered by a firearm, or a bullet flies into a child's bedroom as part of an

00:54:25.720 extortion case, we don't have time for politics. So why is this Minister caught on tape playing politics

00:54:32.600 with guns? The Honourable Minister of Public Safety. Mr. Speaker, in order to have a real

00:54:41.960 conversation about crime, we need to have a real conversation about guns. Canadians want responsible 0.98

00:54:47.560 gun control, Mr. Speaker. They wanted it in 1989 after a man killed 14 women at École Polytechnique.

00:54:54.680 They wanted it after six people were murdered at the Quebec City mosque shooting, and they wanted

00:54:59.160 it after the biggest mass shooting in our history where a man opened fire and killed 22 people in

00:55:04.360 Nova Scotia. Mr. Speaker, why are the Conservatives against keeping guns off our streets, and why has

00:55:09.880 this Leader of the Opposition voted against every single gun control measure that he has been in

00:55:15.320 Parliament for? The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. That Minister did have a real conversation

00:55:23.240 about guns. Unfortunately for him, he was caught on tape, admitting that the gun grab is a waste of

00:55:30.600 money. Caught on tape, admitting it would go over budget. Caught on tape, admitting it would be better

00:55:34.920 just to lock up the gun criminals who are actually doing the crime. Why is it that Liberals only tell the

00:55:42.600 truth when they don't think anyone is listening? Mr. Speaker, let me reiterate. It's actually a good

00:55:55.720 thing that this conversation was caught on tape. In fact, it will counter every single claim that

00:56:03.800 this Leader of the Opposition is making. Let me be very clear, Mr. Speaker. Canadians want responsible gun

00:56:09.480 control. We are in a position as a government. We committed to it during the last campaign,

00:56:14.920 Mr. Speaker. Canadians gave us a mandate on April the 28th to ensure that we move forward on this

00:56:21.160 program, and we look forward to its implementation. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.

00:56:27.000 While this government blocks criminal justice reforms that would lock up gun criminals, they want 0.97

00:56:33.080 to go ahead and take nearly a billion dollars away from border security and police officers to go after

00:56:41.480 licensed, law-abiding, trained and tested hunters and sport shooters, a project that the OPP refuses to

00:56:48.680 enforce. Numerous provincial governments have said they will not go ahead with. They've even had to ask

00:56:54.360 Canada Post to go and collect these firearms. The Minister himself has now admitted that it won't work.

00:57:01.320 Why won't they drop the politics and save lives? The Honourable Minister of Justice.

00:57:10.200 Mr. Speaker, if the member is concerned about advancing legislation that's actually going to

00:57:14.920 keep Canadians safe, he would work across the aisle with us as we seek to table legislation

00:57:20.280 during this legislative sitting to ensure that violent repeat offenders are kept behind bars,

00:57:25.800 to make sure the most serious offenders are actually facing stiffer penalties.

00:57:29.800 But Mr. Speaker, it is hard to accept criticism when it comes to keeping our community safe from gun 0.92

00:57:34.200 violence from a member who for more than two decades has voted against the very specific measures that

00:57:39.400 are designed to take guns off our streets. And he has voted repeatedly on the measures that will

00:57:43.800 weaken our border to prevent the inflow of guns in the first place. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.

00:57:48.760 You know, I'll wrap it up there. What a lengthy exchange. Sean Frazier, the Justice Minister, obviously

00:57:57.480 coming in to save Gary Ananda Sangri from himself. I don't know if you noticed that. I think he answered

00:58:03.080 four or five questions. He was obviously prepared. He had a couple of messages prescripted, but he wasn't

00:58:08.840 prepared for, I think, five questions in a row. And it kept going there. So he had worn out his practice

00:58:14.120 questions. And Gary's an expert on the Tamil Tigers. Gary's an expert on fundraising and legal

00:58:20.200 rights for terrorists. Gary's an expert in being a landlord in the GTA. But he's not an expert at

00:58:25.400 public safety. That's sort of the opposite of his expertise. So once he had read his two scripted lines,

00:58:30.360 I don't know if you noticed that, Tracy, he literally read the same answer word for word about

00:58:35.240 in 1989, 14. And then like, he gave this. And I think that's when Sean Frazier said, Oh, my God,

00:58:42.520 this is terrible. Like, Oh, I'm my comments were, you know, good thing there's a recording of it.

00:58:49.080 Although his first answer was, my comments were misguided. So the first thing he said there,

00:58:53.800 Tracy was, I shouldn't have said what I said. Then he said, Oh, no, you can listen to the tape.

00:59:00.040 It's not as bad as these guys say. And then he just sort of gave up and Sean Frazier,

00:59:04.200 the justice minister came in. This is pretty bad. And I don't know how much traction it's going to

00:59:09.000 get with ordinary people. But I think firearms owners, every single one of them in this country,

00:59:14.440 is going to listen to this. And I think there are some rural liberal MPs in places where firearms are

00:59:20.760 regarded as tools and normal. And the abnormal side is these gun grabs that now it's sort of,

00:59:27.000 you know, it's playing in the stereotype is that liberals know this is just for show.

00:59:32.360 All the firearm crime in this country is done with illegal guns in the first place,

00:59:38.600 small handguns or even other guns that are very restricted. Everyone knew the liberals were faking

00:59:45.480 it. And now you have a confession on tape of it. I think this is going to do tremendous damage to

00:59:51.640 rural liberals, however many of them are left. And I think they know it. And I think they were a little

00:59:57.000 caught off guard by five or so questions and more coming from the opposition on it. And I think

01:00:02.920 Gary Ann Andersangari is a loser. Now, obviously, he's valuable to the liberals because he brings the

01:00:08.280 Tamil vote, especially the extremist pro-terrorist side. Like it's, it's, it would be as his name was

01:00:15.720 found in a tranche of terrorist documents, his name and number. It would be like if Tulsi Gabbard's name

01:00:22.120 and number was found in, you know, some ISIS headquarters or something. You'd say, what?

01:00:28.360 You got some explaining to do this guy. I can't believe he's our public safety minister. Fire

01:00:34.440 Gary.ca is our petition. Tracy, I'm blown away by that exchange.

01:00:38.200 Yeah, it was very shocking to me too. I listened to the entire thing multiple times yesterday. I had

01:00:44.840 multiple conversations with the tenant and I just, you know, it actually, it, it was, it's gratifying,

01:00:51.880 of course, because we've been saying this all along and Gary confirmed everything that we've said

01:00:56.200 for the last five years about this gun grab. But at the same time, it actually made me sad because,

01:01:00.680 you know, it's, I want to say for Canada, I want the government to focus their efforts where it

01:01:09.000 should be on reducing crime violence and gun smuggling. So to have them openly admit that

01:01:15.000 although they know this isn't going to work, they're doing it anyways to appease the Quebec MP

01:01:19.800 is just, you know, it's just super frustrating. And of course, there's a bunch of losers in this. It's

01:01:25.160 not just Gary. It's the Canadian taxpayers are losers because they're going to have to pay for

01:01:30.600 it. And all of society loses because crime and violence is just going to continue. It's been

01:01:36.760 out of control because they've rerouted the resources. So yeah, just tragic all the way around.

01:01:42.680 You know, Sean Fraser is one of the most incompetent liberals in cabinet. He wrecked the immigration file.

01:01:47.480 He wrecked the housing file. Now he's in charge of justice. But when you are so bad that Sean Fraser

01:01:54.360 is the guy they put in to pinch hit for you, you know, you're having a bad day.

01:01:59.800 If Sean Fraser is your big help. Holy smokes. Well, Tracy, I'm very excited. And, and I mean

01:02:07.080 this in a, in, I don't mean this in a condescending way, but I say I'm proud of you. I'm proud of what

01:02:13.000 you did. You immediately grasped the importance of what you saw. You confirmed it. You were very

01:02:19.640 journalistic. You were a fact checker. You called them up multiple conversations, and then you put the

01:02:24.760 whole tape out there for the world to see. And even though the Toronto Star loves terrorist Gary,

01:02:31.080 even though they love banning firearms for hunters and farmers and sportsmen, they had to run this

01:02:38.920 story, even though half of it is, Oh, poor Gary. He said he didn't know he was being recorded. Can

01:02:44.200 he have a do over something they'd never do with any other politician? But when you force the Toronto

01:02:49.400 star to deal with it, you've had a good day. So Tracy Wilson of the Canadian coalition for

01:02:54.760 firearms rights, congratulations. You did more journalism than anyone else in the

01:02:59.480 parliamentary press gallery today. So congrats. Thanks, Ezra. I appreciate that. But the real

01:03:04.360 hero of the story is the tenant who stood up to the minister of public safety, his landlord,

01:03:09.640 and then came forward with it. And, you know, who knows what he's risked? Right? So. Hey,

01:03:14.360 can you do me a favor? Now, as far as we know, then the identity of the tenant remains confidential.

01:03:20.200 I don't think you've said it. And neither has Tamil Tiger Gary. Um, this is obviously a huge

01:03:27.080 embarrassment for Gary and Andy Sangri and the liberals. And I know how the liberals operate.

01:03:31.400 They are a vengeance machine. I know I have some liberal friends who were mercifully, mercilessly

01:03:37.480 targeted by the government, including by the CRA, by the way. Um, can you do me a favor?

01:03:43.720 Can you stay in touch with this tenant just casually and maybe just tell him this? If he had,

01:03:49.480 if Gary and Andy Sangri tries to take revenge on this guy, tries to punish him, tries to evict him,

01:03:57.640 fails to fix up the place, fails to do the duties of a landlord, that must be intimidating. I mean,

01:04:04.360 there's always a power imbalance between landlord and tenant in any event, but when it's sort of a

01:04:10.360 thug, like Gary and Andy, I say he's a thug based on his affiliation with terrorist groups and he's

01:04:16.200 a thug anyways, cause he's a lying liberal and he wants to grab guns. If he gets into a pickle,

01:04:22.360 can you let us know? Because we'd be happy to crowdfund a lawyer for him. We'd be happy to

01:04:27.480 journalistically blow the whistle on that. This guy has done Canada a service by recording this lying

01:04:35.320 liar telling lies. And if the lying liar tries to take revenge, he's going to need some help.

01:04:42.360 And I'm here to offer my help. Can you pass that on to the tenant?

01:04:46.600 I will. Thanks, Ezra. And I told him that as well, that, um, if there's any, you know,

01:04:51.240 repercussions on him in any way that we'd stand behind him a hundred percent, whatever he needs,

01:04:57.080 we'll make it happen. All right. What an interesting story. Well, Tracy, great stuff.

01:05:02.680 Thanks for taking the time with us too. Thanks Ezra. Have a great day.

01:05:05.880 You too. That's Tracy Wilson of the CCFR. Stay with us more ahead.

01:05:14.600 Well, that's our show for today. Lots of stuff. Hey, I can hardly wait to talk to you tomorrow. Until then,

01:05:19.240 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters and around the country,

01:05:23.080 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - September 22, 2025

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