Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Mark Carney’s polling surge： don’t panic, Canada

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Is it time to despair? Are the polls showing that Pierre Paliyev is going to lose?

00:00:05.460 I'm here to say, don't count him out and don't get blackpilled, as the kids would say.

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00:00:40.440 Tonight, the polls suggest Mark Carney is going to win the next Canadian election, but

00:00:55.020 I'm here to tell you that's possible, but it's absolutely not set in stone. It's March 21st,

00:01:01.940 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:06.780 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:09.840 Well, I was in the United Kingdom for one day, not even a day, actually. I flew on Wednesday night,

00:01:24.820 slept on the plane for a couple hours, landed at 6.30 in the morning, made my way down into the

00:01:30.220 heart of the city where I covered Tommy Robinson's hearing. I live-tweeted. It got millions of views.

00:01:36.560 People just don't trust the mainstream media in the UK. It was sort of incredible.

00:01:42.000 I was sort of right next to the guy from The Guardian. Across the way was the guy from the

00:01:46.700 BBC, and they knew who I was, of course, and I was being my friendly self, and this Guardian guy was

00:01:52.500 talking about the fake news media, and I didn't take the bait because I knew, which is a pretty good

00:01:57.880 feeling. I knew that my stuff would be seen by millions of people, and his stuff will be read by a

00:02:04.200 few cranky leftists, but actually, over the course of the hours, we managed to find a

00:02:09.000 modus vivendi to get along. It was really weird with him to lead with the fake news, but what does

00:02:14.440 that even mean? I mean, we were both covering the same trial. What was fake about it? What a loser,

00:02:21.660 but I can understand why they feel under attack. 10, 15 years ago, there was no such thing

00:02:27.860 as citizen journalism. No such thing as people having a huge platform on YouTube or Twitter,

00:02:34.120 so I can see why he's in a dying industry and a dying part of that industry. Anyways, I didn't

00:02:39.220 fight with him, but he was a little bit snarky. I enjoy covering Tommy Robinson's case, and I don't

00:02:45.500 mind the flights. I landed at 6.30, did my work during the day, and then I caught the 6 p.m. flight

00:02:50.100 home, so I wasn't even on the ground for 12 hours. I'm lucky I made it out. I don't know if you heard,

00:02:54.780 but Heathrow, which is such a huge airport, it really is one of the world's busiest airports.

00:03:00.480 It would be like Chicago O'Hare or New York's JFK. They had a major fire, which knocked out the

00:03:07.140 power and the backup generators. Sounds pretty fishy to me. It wouldn't surprise me if there

00:03:11.320 were some malefactors involved, so I just got out of Dodge like four hours before the whole place

00:03:17.660 was shut down. Yeah, I'm lucky to be back, and I really didn't miss any work because I did my show

00:03:23.540 anyway. I know it's different than being in the studio, but I think it's important,

00:03:28.140 and I really enjoy the warm welcome I get there, and I think it's part of our duty as part of the

00:03:35.580 Commonwealth to support other English-speaking liberal democracies when they have free speech

00:03:40.680 problems, which definitely the UK does, and I guess that's what I learned when I go over there,

00:03:45.600 especially yesterday, to see how the police, the prosecutors, the judges, the prison guards,

00:03:53.200 not the guards themselves, but the prison wardens or governors, were only about five years behind

00:03:59.260 them. I mean, all of those elements, all those groups are woke and DEI and politicized there in

00:04:05.600 the UK. Today, the ruling came out that Tommy was not successful. He was applying for a judicial

00:04:13.560 review on a speedy basis to lessen his solitary confinement punishment in prison in the UK,

00:04:21.160 and it was rejected, and there's jubilation on the left, and going over there, I mean, I love the UK.

00:04:28.540 I love freedom and things like that, but it's a vision of what could happen here if our police

00:04:33.060 or prosecutors or judges or prison wardens become politicized too. I also think about the importance

00:04:39.660 of fighting in the first ditch rather than in the last ditch and how much easier it is to fight in

00:04:45.720 the first ditch, but that's the thing. No one wants to fight in the first ditch because they say, oh,

00:04:49.580 it's not a problem yet. Yeah, wouldn't you rather nip a problem in the bud? It's not just true for

00:04:57.020 societies. It's true for individual people too, and I think of Tommy Robinson. I'm almost done talking

00:05:01.960 about him. I didn't mean to bring it up, but I just wanted to tell you where I was yesterday if you

00:05:04.740 didn't know. Because he didn't fight some of his early fights properly, because he didn't have a

00:05:10.900 good lawyer or the right lawyer, or because he didn't even bother to defend, there were certain

00:05:15.220 very early losses he had legally that cast a shadow to this day. If he did something and got a suspended

00:05:22.860 sentence, but then it was triggered later on, or if he pled guilty to something under pressure,

00:05:28.440 under duress, and they didn't really mean to, but now people keep on saying, well, he broke the law,

00:05:33.400 and he admits it. So I learn a lot by going to the UK, and I learn a lot by fighting with Tommy,

00:05:39.740 in a way, I guess I fight with him, alongside him, I mean. And I try and learn things that we can apply

00:05:47.900 to the battles here in Canada. Anyway, I am going to go back to the UK for more hearings on April 11th.

00:05:52.880 There's another one. It almost feels like it's endless because it's lawfare. It's how the government

00:05:59.480 goes about eradicating an enemy of the state. I think you know, because it's in the public domain

00:06:05.260 that Elon Musk is paying for some of the legal bills out there, but we still are crowdfunding for

00:06:10.700 the children in a trust fund set up for his kids, because I don't mean to be morbid, but I have a

00:06:16.180 fear, and I've talked to Tommy about this directly, that he may one day die, either at the hands of the

00:06:22.000 police, or more likely at the hands of some violent prisoner who is accidentally let into where Tommy

00:06:28.360 is and polishes him off. I hate to say those words out loud, but it is something I think we have to

00:06:33.840 think about and plan for. So what I'm doing with Tommy these days is, besides talking to his lawyers

00:06:38.460 and trying to marshal them, we have crowdfunded a trust fund for his kids, in case, God forbid,

00:06:45.020 Tommy leaves us too soon. I think my journalism is making a difference. I know it was read millions

00:06:52.120 of times yesterday, and the mainstream media there hates it, so I'll keep doing it. A foreigner like

00:06:57.480 me, I'm a foreigner over there, can in a way operate better, because I don't stick around for the peer

00:07:03.400 pressure. I think a reason why so many journalists are anti-Tommy is, to say otherwise, is so socially

00:07:10.520 unacceptable over there. You are disinvited to Christmas parties. You're not invited to hang

00:07:17.260 out with the cool kids, but I'm not going to those Christmas parties anyways. I don't really have a big

00:07:21.260 friend network there that might turn against me. I have friends there, for sure, but I think,

00:07:27.620 in a way, a foreigner can write about Tommy Robinson more freely than a Brit can. Anyways, forgive me that

00:07:34.240 preamble. It's just on my mind. I'm slightly jet-lagged, but the reason I came home so quickly is,

00:07:40.320 it's obvious, Canada has a big battle here, and while it's important that I still cover Tommy

00:07:47.660 Robinson, because that will have an effect, not just in the UK, but around the world, we have a

00:07:51.840 battle here, and it is a special duty that Rebel News fights like hell. And it was looking pretty

00:07:58.300 good for a couple years there, wasn't it? I mean, really, around the start of the convoy in February

00:08:03.260 2022, that's when Justin Trudeau started declining in the polls, and by the time 2023 came around,

00:08:09.600 he was pretty far back, and 2024 was pretty cool. We were all daydreaming about supermajorities and

00:08:15.780 what we want a peer poly to do next. And then a series of unusual events happened, and Justin Trudeau

00:08:25.240 was replaced by Mark Carney. I call him Trudeau 2.0, but he's smarter and harder working, and more than

00:08:32.540 that, he doesn't have the scandals and the plagues that Trudeau had associated with him. So, of course,

00:08:37.700 you take him under the picture, of course, the Liberal vote is going to go up. Mark Carney is

00:08:42.360 now ahead in certain polls, and in some betting markets. If you know what I mean, there are some

00:08:48.080 of these online political betting markets where you can, really like betting on a basketball game

00:08:53.040 or something, you can bet on an election, and you put real money in. And the thing about betting on

00:08:58.400 an election is you don't have to root for the team that you like. You can say, you know, I don't like

00:09:03.120 the Liberals, but I really think they're going to win, and I'm going to put my money where my mouth

00:09:06.860 is. That's the difference. Anyone can tell a pollster how they feel or tell their friends and

00:09:10.480 family how they feel. But if you had 100 bucks riding on it, who do you really think is going to

00:09:16.100 win? And so, in some ways, these betting markets can be more accurate than other opinion polls,

00:09:23.420 especially when you have an enormous number of participants. And some of these political betting

00:09:28.440 markets have a huge base, so they shouldn't be taken lightly. In other words, it is time to worry.

00:09:36.780 But it's not time to panic. And it's important not to be demoralized. First of all, you're not

00:09:43.880 going crazy. Don't worry. People are not suddenly being fooled into thinking that Mark Carney is some

00:09:49.620 great savior. They're not. If you look at polls, including from one of my favorite pollsters, David

00:09:54.080 Colletto and Abacus, a lot of Mark Carney's support, the support for the Liberal Party these days,

00:10:01.060 is the collapse of the NDP. Now, I know a vote is a vote, and so it doesn't necessarily make you feel

00:10:08.080 better to know that the NDP is collapsing into the Liberals. But it's important when I say don't

00:10:14.080 be demoralized, because it's not like conservatives who have been skeptical about Justin Trudeau for years

00:10:19.860 are suddenly being tricked or hornswoggled into voting for Mark Carney. No, it's just

00:10:25.940 NDPers who were really never serious about it. Jagmeet Singh is not a serious person.

00:10:31.180 The NDP is not a serious party. They just sort of parked their vote with the NDP as a

00:10:36.080 political statement, like wearing a Che Guevara shirt. But now that they see, and they would probably

00:10:41.740 would have voted for the NDP if it was going to be a Pierre Polly of conservative blowout. I mean,

00:10:46.920 why not then? But if it's actually a closed vote, a lot of those NDP voters are smart enough to

00:10:53.340 strategically say, wow, our vote actually matters now, and we should probably give it to the guy

00:10:58.820 with the greatest likelihood of beating the Tory. So don't think that suddenly people have gone mad

00:11:05.340 and think that Mark Carney is a genius. It's that they're saying, oh, this guy actually has a chance.

00:11:10.220 The media are certainly fresh and friendly. The polls suggest he could pull off an upseat

00:11:16.820 upset, so let's vote strategically. I think that's a lot of what's happening.

00:11:21.300 Like I said before, obviously just getting rid of Trudeau is going to move those numbers up because

00:11:25.380 so many of his scandals are personally associated with him. Now, of course, the media are awful.

00:11:32.380 They would look for an excuse to support anyone other than Pierre Polly of for ideological reasons

00:11:36.960 and as for personal and selfish reasons too, because of course, Polly of has said he will end

00:11:42.340 funding the CBC, and he is intimated that he would do similar for other media subsidies. So just out of

00:11:48.320 pure survival instincts, the media are going to support whoever is against Polly of. But there are

00:11:54.680 some journalists who are waking up. Here's a clip of Bob Fyfe. This is about a week old now.

00:12:00.220 Starting to ask some questions about Mark Carney and his failure to, you know, answer basic public

00:12:06.900 policy questions, basic accountability questions. Here's Bob Fyfe. Well, what he doesn't tell us is

00:12:11.760 how much he's worth. Yeah. I mean, that's really the question here. Are you worth 10 million, 20 million,

00:12:16.700 50 million dollars? We have no idea. Who is your, who is the person who's running the blind trust? Is it

00:12:23.540 your brother? Is it, you know, I mean, if you're having an independent person who's supposed to take

00:12:28.940 care of the blind trust, that person should be independent and far removed from Mr. Carney's assets.

00:12:35.400 We don't know who that is. You know, is he requiring to sell all the stocks, which apparently you're

00:12:41.500 supposed to, but has he sold all the stocks and his investments and anything that may put him in a

00:12:47.720 conflict with the government? Those are things that he needs to answer to Canadians. And, you know,

00:12:54.040 he doesn't, he doesn't want to answer those questions. And you said he was a little testy. He does not like

00:13:00.020 tough questions from, from journalists. He's used to a more compliant financial press when he was a

00:13:05.980 central banker and they're very much respectful of them. Well, we're political reporters. We have

00:13:10.760 an obligation to ask the tough questions. And that's something we're going to have to watch for

00:13:15.400 during the campaign. It's when he gets angry or annoyed or arrogant at journalists for pressing

00:13:21.400 him on issues that he doesn't want to answer. Bob Fyfe works for the Globe and Mail. Of course,

00:13:26.500 in so many ways, they're an official establishment regime media, but got to give Bob Fyfe credit,

00:13:32.480 him and the small team that he works with, they have not been afraid to take on the liberals. They

00:13:37.720 broke, for example, the Jody Wilson-Raybould scandal. They break much of the China scandals in this

00:13:43.900 country. So even though the Globe and Mail is typically a liberal leaning newspaper, you have to

00:13:50.280 give credit to their journalists. Sometimes they actually fight the liberals. Mark Carney, whenever he's

00:13:55.500 pressed, it shows that he's brittle. And it shows that he's not exactly used to being candid about

00:14:02.280 things that he regards as private. He's never been asked tough questions before, certainly not tough

00:14:06.960 personal questions. And I predict that he will campaign a little bit like how Joe Biden campaigned

00:14:14.000 in the 2020 election, which is basically hiding, hiding in the basement. What I mean by that is

00:14:20.620 doing an announcement in a super friendly media setting and just generally not going out into a

00:14:26.100 circumstance where he's vulnerable. There's been some interesting photo ops lately. Both

00:14:32.400 Pierre Polyev and Mark Carney have gone to heavy industrial sites like a steelworker site. When

00:14:38.340 Polyev goes, all the people dressed up as steelworkers are, in fact, the steelworkers. But when Mark Carney

00:14:45.060 recently went, it was just him and a couple of his candidates dressed up as steelworkers, there were

00:14:50.100 no steelworkers there. I think that the shop was probably too certain that the steelworkers would

00:14:56.140 have heckled or bad mouthed Carney. I thought that was sort of fun. But you're going to see a lot more

00:15:01.160 screening out rapports because that's the best way of screening out uneasy questions. Like a serious

00:15:08.560 question we have is about his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, the fixer for Jeffrey Epstein,

00:15:13.680 the pedophile rapist. I think that Mark Carney has a lot going for him. He has a strong resume. He is

00:15:23.720 sort of likable on the outside. He looks good. He's not as theatrical and dramatique as Justin Trudeau

00:15:30.900 is. He's unlikely to say things like people kind. But on the inside, he's actually just as mean as

00:15:40.200 Trudeau. His response to Rosemary Barton, the CBC's flagship liberal, was sort of astonishing.

00:15:46.520 Stephanie Levitz and then Rosemary Barton asked some really basic ethics questions that

00:15:52.020 any MP, any party leader should ask. And the response by Mark Carney was so startling.

00:15:59.220 It was sort of, how dare you? How dare you imply that I'm not saint-like? And don't you see I'm doing

00:16:07.360 you such a favor by coming down from Olympus to save the country? I want to play this. I've played

00:16:14.480 this before, but you just got to see this clip again. Mark Carney thinks he is above us, above you,

00:16:21.820 above journalists, above skeptical questions, and above complying with ethics disclosure. Take a look.

00:16:29.220 I'm complying with the rules in advance. Point of finance.

00:16:33.220 Are you saying you are not open to any conflict of interest?

00:16:36.220 Yes.

00:16:37.220 You don't have to spend most of the time in the private sector. There's no possible conflict

00:16:41.220 of interest in your assets. That's very difficult to believe.

00:16:45.220 Look inside yourself, Rosemary. I mean, you start from a prior of conflict and ill will.

00:16:58.220 I have served in the private sector. I have stood up for Canada. I have left my roles in the private

00:17:07.220 sector at a time of crisis for our country. I'm complying with all the rules. Your line of questioning

00:17:16.220 is trying to invent new rules. I'm complying with the rules that Parliament has laid out and the

00:17:22.220 responsibilities of the Ethics Commissioner. And I will continue to comply with those rules.

00:17:29.220 You know, when I was a kid, I heard that Mr. T, the wrestler and larger-than-life personality,

00:17:35.220 had a rider in his contract that no one was allowed to look him in the eye. Now, I don't believe that.

00:17:40.220 I think that was just some urban legend. But it wouldn't surprise me if Mark Carney has something

00:17:45.220 like that. You're not allowed to look at Mr. Carney in the eyes. I don't know.

00:17:49.220 He has other things that are just a hubris that I'm sure he gets away with when he's with his friends

00:17:55.220 and they clap and nod along. He says things like, I know how the world works. I mean, here's a clip

00:18:02.220 of him saying that. No, brother, I don't think you know how the world works. The world is an enormous

00:18:08.220 place and I don't think any one person knows how the whole thing works. I don't think you know how

00:18:13.220 a lawnmower works. I think you have someone else do it for you. I don't think you've ever changed a

00:18:18.220 tire in your car. I don't think you have spent any time in a factory other than maybe in some

00:18:24.220 merger and acquisition for Brookfield. I don't think you know how it works when you have to

00:18:29.220 struggle to make the bills, to pay the bills, and you have to cut back. I don't think he actually

00:18:36.220 knows how the world works. Maybe how palaces work, but not how ordinary people who are just trying

00:18:43.220 to make a go of it in our insane housing prices work. No, I don't think that Mark Carney actually

00:18:50.220 knows how to make the world, how the world works. And I think he's actually always been a bit

00:18:56.220 of a cheater. Now, he wouldn't agree with that. He would say, no, no. I just take opportunities and I

00:19:03.220 know how the world works. But here's what I mean by a cheater. He has worked for public sector entities

00:19:08.220 that have given him incredible inside information for decades. First, he was the head of the Bank of

00:19:14.220 Canada. Then he was the head of the Bank of England. In recent years, he's been a United

00:19:18.220 Nations special emissary of climate or something. So how does he amass so many millions of dollars

00:19:28.220 when he's working as a civil servant? Well, the answer is at the same time, he's got other things

00:19:33.220 on the go, including being the chair of Brookfield Asset Management. And just at the same time he was

00:19:39.220 a special advisor to Justin Trudeau, Brookfield was doing deals with the government. So you see

00:19:45.220 what I mean about a double dealer? He was on both sides of that. He was an advisor to the Canadian

00:19:50.220 government while he was doing deals with the Canadian government. You can't do that. I know he

00:19:57.220 thinks he's really important and I know he's above scrutiny and how dare you ask him that and

00:20:03.220 look inside yourself and all that. But no, that is exactly what most people would call a conflict of

00:20:10.420 interest. Now, maybe at the UN, they don't care about that. And maybe everyone at the UN is some

00:20:15.780 kind of crook. But that's not actually how the world works. For 99.9% of the people, the world does not

00:20:22.900 work, that you can be on both sides of a deal. That's called an inside job. That's called a conflict

00:20:27.860 of interest. It's called insider trading. I mean, how do you get as rich as this guy

00:20:34.180 by working as a public servant? That ain't a public servant. You know, I saw, I mean,

00:20:39.700 Donald Trump is talking about Canada almost every day. Let me show you a clip. He's had a few.

00:20:46.420 Here he is saying he would prefer to battle against a liberal as prime minister than a conservative.

00:20:54.260 He's saying he would rather have Mark Carney beat Pierre Pagliot, but I don't think he knows

00:20:58.420 either's name. Take a look. I've heard you say this in all of the talk about Canada becoming the 51st

00:21:03.940 state. Are you concerned that if they became the 51st state, they would be a very, very blue state?

00:21:11.060 Very, very, very big and very, very blue. No, there might be, but it would, you know,

00:21:15.940 you have that artificial line that goes, that straight artifact that looked like it was drawn by

00:21:21.060 ruler. Somebody with a, I don't mean a ruler, like a king. I mean, like a ruler, like a ruler this way.

00:21:27.060 And it's just an artificial line that was drawn in the sand or in the ice. You add that to this

00:21:37.620 country. What a beautiful landmass, the most beautiful landmass anywhere in the world.

00:21:42.740 And it was just cut off for whatever reason. It would be great. Now, is it liberal? Maybe,

00:21:48.500 but you know, a conservative until I got involved, because I don't care who wins up there. I frankly,

00:21:53.780 probably would do better with the liberal than the conservative, if you want to know the truth. But

00:21:58.980 just a little while ago, before I got involved and totally changed the election,

00:22:02.900 which I don't care about. Probably it's our advantage, actually. But the conservative was

00:22:10.100 leading against, I call him Governor Trudeau. The conservative was leading by 35 points. So,

00:22:15.940 you know, so I don't know about that. I think Canada is a place like a lot of other places.

00:22:21.220 If you have a good candidate, the candidate's going to...

00:22:23.380 Now, I don't know exactly what Trump means by this. Maybe he, maybe just take it at face value. Maybe

00:22:28.340 he's saying he would rather negotiate against a liberal. Maybe he thinks that a liberal is more

00:22:35.060 pliable, more push-aroundable. Maybe he thinks a liberal, by definition, is weaker. I don't know

00:22:42.020 what he means by that. Maybe he thinks someone who's Canada first might be tougher or harder to get

00:22:46.500 along with. I really don't know. As far as I know, neither Mark Carney nor Pierre Polyev have spoken

00:22:53.700 to Trump, which is sort of crazy from Mark Carney's point of view, given that he's been prime minister

00:22:58.260 for about a week. I know why Pierre Polyev is worried. Because if he makes contact with Donald

00:23:07.060 Trump, which again would be non-standard, given that Polyev is just the leader of the opposition,

00:23:11.460 he would be painted as a traitor and a sellout and a mini-Trump. I think that's why Polyev has not

00:23:17.060 actually reached out to Trump to try and solve things, because he would be pilloried in the press.

00:23:22.820 But here's the thing about that patriotism and the Team Canada and all that. It's fake.

00:23:30.740 The people who are now suddenly discovering their patriotism have, for the last 10 years,

00:23:36.260 tried to destroy patriotism. They're woke. They are the ones who have de-historied the country,

00:23:42.580 de-racinated them, vanillified our history. There are people who, for example,

00:23:48.660 are working on the black justice strategy that would have black reparations in Canada. Reparations.

00:23:55.140 We didn't have slavery in this country. It's where the black refugee slaves ran away to under the

00:24:00.420 underground railroad. That's so ahistorical. And it's about building divisiveness and importing

00:24:08.340 foreign narratives of racial interaction. That's just not Canada.

00:24:15.780 You cannot be a Canadian patriot. You cannot say you love Canadian history and culture and our story

00:24:23.140 and our geography, but also be the kind of party that takes John A. Macdonald off the dollar bill,

00:24:28.580 takes the ten dollar bill, strips imagery off our passport, hides John A. Macdonald's statues.

00:24:35.860 I mean, Doug Ford did that, but you just can't do that and say you're a patriot.

00:24:38.980 Here's Mark Carney saying he really believes in being woke.

00:24:42.580 There's a fever gripping America. And while it rages, Canadians will remain resolute and true to our

00:24:50.500 values. While America engages in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness.

00:24:59.540 You can't be woke and a Canadian patriot. The two are at odds on purpose, because if you're woke,

00:25:04.500 you say Canada is settlers, racist settlers who committed a genocide. That's what woke means when

00:25:11.220 it comes to Canada. Mark Carney believes in carbon taxes, maybe not at the retail side,

00:25:16.100 but if you look at his announcement when he said he was going to ban the carbon tax, not because it

00:25:21.860 doesn't work, not because he's ideologically opposed to it. He simply said that it was divisive. Well,

00:25:27.780 yeah, of course it is. But he's not saying he doesn't like it. It's so obviously just a tactical

00:25:33.700 change on his part. Mark Carney is not a Canadian patriot. We don't even know how much time he spent

00:25:40.180 in this country at all in the last 10 or so years. Why does he have three passports? Does he have the

00:25:46.340 Irish one for tax dodge reasons? Why are his wife and kids still living outside of the country? Are they

00:25:53.860 going to come back to Canada or only if he wins? There's so many questions. And that's not even a

00:25:59.540 malicious question about his patriotism, although he would surely be offended by it. But really, has he

00:26:05.380 just come back like just in recent weeks to rule over us? If so, that's astonishing. And all of this is

00:26:12.340 my way of saying, look, don't lose your head. Don't lose your head over these polls showing that it's neck and

00:26:19.700 neck. Obviously, the conservatives need a new campaign tactic. I mean, Trudeau's personality doesn't

00:26:26.580 transpose over to Carney, and some of his policies don't either. I think one thing is you can't out

00:26:32.180 liberal the liberals, and they're trying to out conservative the conservatives. That's what their

00:26:36.500 move is on, for example, the northern military initiatives, or so their move is on the carbon tax.

00:26:42.940 But I think it's still absolutely positive for the possible for the conservatives to win.

00:26:48.840 I think the liberals are in fact making it easier than they should for the conservatives to win.

00:26:53.300 I see that Mark Carney recently hired the senior executive from an outrageous thing called the

00:26:58.060 Century Initiative. I don't know if you've heard of that. That's this wacky NGO dedicated

00:27:05.100 to tripling Canadian immigration levels to make it so there are 100 million people in the country,

00:27:13.920 not the 40 million we have now. Could you imagine if everything Trudeau has done on immigration,

00:27:20.580 shocking numbers, which has made all of us poorer, which has brought enormous crime, cultural

00:27:26.720 friction, especially anti-Semitism and Sikh extremism and all sorts of battles on the streets,

00:27:34.380 could you imagine someone saying, that's not enough? What we have to do is triple those numbers.

00:27:40.660 We have to bring in two times more Canada into Canada in the next 10 or 15 years. Could you imagine

00:27:51.180 someone doing that? That's who Mark Carney has hired as a senior position. I think that shouts as a

00:27:59.840 weakness. If you look at Canadian issues, immigration is as really grown as an issue in the past couple of

00:28:07.560 years. There's no longer a, I think it was always a fake consensus in favor of mass immigration, but it

00:28:13.320 is no longer here. I think this is the time for the conservative party to go tough on immigration.

00:28:19.160 That's something that Mark Carney and the liberals will never be able to steal. I think going hard on

00:28:23.560 crime is a similar issue too. I guess what I'm here to say is it's not over. Don't lose your mind.

00:28:31.880 Don't read too much into the polls. In fact, sometimes those polls are designed

00:28:35.040 to demoralize us. Don't worry that conservatives are being tricked. They're not. In fact, I think

00:28:40.840 this is the opportunity for the conservatives to become more conservative and go places Mark Carney

00:28:45.760 can't go. And by the way, I think the election is going to be called this weekend. There's still

00:28:51.140 a lot of times to put questions to Mark Carney, questions that even Bob Fyfe won't ask. We'll show

00:28:57.260 you some of those in the weeks ahead. Stay with us. My interview with Daniel Pipes is next.

00:29:05.040 Well, the world has been riveted by Donald Trump's attempts to broker a peace between Russia and

00:29:17.660 Ukraine and Vladimir Zelensky's frenetic diplomacy, both in the United States and in Europe. At the

00:29:24.680 same time, Canada has been navel-gazing with our own political internal problems. The Liberal Party

00:29:30.320 will be putting Parliament on hold until they sort things out. And now we're in a crash election,

00:29:35.100 where we will be in about 48 hours. And of course, the tariffs and Donald Trump basically takes up all

00:29:40.680 the oxygen in the room, which is different from a few months ago when every day the news was focused

00:29:47.100 on the war between Israel and Hamas. It's almost as if that fell off the front pages. But alas,

00:29:54.360 things are heating back up again. What is going on between Israel and Gaza? What's going on in the

00:29:59.960 region? Is it possible that Donald Trump can have an Abraham Accords round two? He's mused about ideas,

00:30:08.100 some of them creative, like his idea to turn Gaza into a Dubai-like, you know, gem in the Middle East.

00:30:16.240 I'm not sure how realistic that is. Who follows these things closely? Who can we trust to let us know

00:30:22.060 what's actually going on? Well, it's our friend Daniel Pipes. He's the boss of the Middle East Forum,

00:30:26.180 and we're delighted to have him back on the show. Dr. Pipes, great to see you again. I suppose we're

00:30:31.960 here in Canada, and Canada seems so important when you're in Canada. And of course, it's important to

00:30:36.660 40 million Canadians. What happened to the story we were all following until January, namely the war

00:30:43.820 between Israel and Hamas? Has that war started to ratchet up again? What's the status?

00:30:48.340 Well, thank you for the kind words, Ezra. As you may recall, just before his inauguration,

00:30:58.700 Donald Trump, while still president-elect, pushed through a deal between Israel and Hamas.

00:31:07.240 He really pushed it. I mean, notably, his envoy demanded that Benjamin Netanyahu break the Sabbath

00:31:17.380 to talk to talk to him about the deal. So it was very much pushed through. And it was a complex deal

00:31:24.920 with three different stages, many different paragraphs and clauses. The first one was implemented,

00:31:33.220 and the second one was being discussed. And basically what happened is that Israel and Hamas

00:31:39.380 did not come to terms on the second round. And therefore, Israel, a few days ago, restarted the

00:31:46.620 war with Hamas. And therefore, the Houthis in Yemen are threatening to restart the attacks on Red Sea

00:31:53.960 shipping. And therefore, all sorts of other lucks is taking place in and around Israel and the

00:32:02.760 Palestinians. The war is not just being fought in the Middle East. That's where the guns and the bombs

00:32:11.360 and the rockets are being shot. But of course, it's a psychological political war all around the

00:32:16.320 world. It's been a propaganda battlefield on social media and elsewhere. And it felt like the mood

00:32:23.520 of that psychological battle changed when Trump won in November, because of course, he's much less

00:32:30.820 permissive of Islamic terrorism. And basically, America being he's very assertive militarily. And

00:32:38.220 he showed in his first term not to have a lot of patience for Palestinian terrorism. So it felt like

00:32:43.840 the glorious October 7th massacre revolutionaries had a moral setback. At least, I don't know, maybe

00:32:53.580 that's an aesthetic observation that has no ties to what's happening on the ground. I guess another way

00:33:01.160 I'm saying that is it felt like in the November election of Trump, Hamas lost and their momentum

00:33:08.520 would soon be spent. And of course, when Hezbollah was decimated and the head of Hezbollah,

00:33:13.840 was killed and then Syria fell, it felt like a general collapse of Islamist or terrorist groups.

00:33:22.140 Is Hamas still powerful? What do they still run? I guess I'm trying to separate the propaganda

00:33:29.380 battles, which play out in social media with the military battles on the ground. How is Hamas doing?

00:33:36.000 Who's running it? What are their weapons like? Who's funding them?

00:33:39.540 We are actually right that towards the end of the Biden administration, the very weak,

00:33:46.760 passive Biden administration, a number of developments took place in the Middle East,

00:33:52.940 very conducive to Israel and indeed American and Western interests more broadly. Then came Donald Trump,

00:34:00.040 even before his presidency, as I just indicated, with this plethora of energy and doing everything all the

00:34:08.180 time. The surprising thing, and really I can't account for it, is that there are two developments

00:34:16.780 in the Middle East that don't make sense to me, one of which is what you're pointing to. Hamas did not go on

00:34:24.000 to do the second stage. From my point of view, this was a good deal for Hamas. Basically, what it did

00:34:32.300 was give the Hamas possession of some 50 Israelis dead and alive the ability to close an Israeli and attack

00:34:43.100 on Gaza. It looked very good from the Hamas point of view. And simultaneously, Donald Trump has offered

00:34:52.700 to negotiate with the Iranians. And the Iranians are like Hamas in a weak position. As you indicated,

00:35:00.120 they lost their ally in Syria. They also lost their air defense network after the Israelis destroyed it

00:35:09.560 in late 2024. They're weak. The rial, their currency, has gone up to nearly a million to the US dollar.

00:35:18.360 Everything is looking bad. And yet, abruptly, immediately, the Iranian government said, no,

00:35:25.640 Trump can go jump in a lake. We're not going to discuss anything with him. I would have thought,

00:35:30.360 they would negotiate. And the Iranians are known as wily, bizarrely rug merchants who would extend

00:35:38.520 the negotiations over weeks and months. Yet that didn't happen. So in both cases, Hamas and Tehran

00:35:44.440 chose not to go the negotiating route and therefore opening themselves up to both Israeli and American

00:35:52.040 military action. I can't explain it. I don't know what's going on through their heads. It really does make

00:35:57.800 no sense to me. Well, help me understand something. And I don't know if you can. I mean, in Canada,

00:36:04.680 our Canadian government, which I think is very much supportive, is one of the most supportive

00:36:09.960 NATO countries in respect of Hamas, just sending tens of millions of dollars more into Gaza. I think a lot

00:36:17.720 of that is going to be either stolen or outrightly just received by Hamas or Hamas-affiliated

00:36:22.840 organizations. Who is actually running things in the Gaza Strip? Is it under Israeli domination? Is

00:36:31.240 the border with Egypt sealed? Are there Hamas mayors running around? Who's in control of the

00:36:40.360 territory? It doesn't feel like it is pacified or demilitarized. I don't know what it would look

00:36:49.800 like on the ground. It feels like it's unfinished work. Well, the Israelis appear to have decided not

00:36:57.720 to take control of the territory. It's not that big. It's about 30 kilometers by 20. They could have.

00:37:07.880 They chose not to. They have been engaged in raids, but they have not actually taken control of the

00:37:15.480 territory. And therefore, there's a chaotic quality to it. Hamas, to the best of my understanding,

00:37:24.200 retains control. It doesn't control everything everywhere. But insofar as there is an authority

00:37:31.080 in Gaza, it is not the Israeli Defense Forces. It is Hamas. And the Israelis appear to have allowed this.

00:37:39.080 They appear to have not made efforts to disrupt the Hamas control. So, for example,

00:37:44.920 the aid that you mentioned, Canadian and otherwise, goes to Hamas, which then distributes it, keeps a

00:37:51.000 great deal for itself, whether it be food, fuel, or money, and then distributes some of it to the

00:37:57.720 population at large. But it's Hamas that's in charge. Hamas is still in charge. It has not been destroyed.

00:38:06.520 The Israelis have talked about destroying Hamas. They've talked about total and complete victory.

00:38:12.120 They have not, in fact, from what I can tell at a distance, taken the steps necessary to accomplish

00:38:18.440 those two goals of destruction of Hamas and victory over Hamas.

00:38:24.120 You know, Trump has been very sympathetic to the hostages. He's met with released hostages

00:38:29.800 or the family of hostages that were murdered. Even on his inauguration day, he called them up to his

00:38:35.720 speech and he sort of forgot to dismiss them. So they stood on the stage as he gave an enormous part of

00:38:41.000 his inauguration remarks. He's met with them at the White House. And after that, he's talked about

00:38:47.800 the horrific things done to them. And he's used language like Israel can do anything, you know,

00:38:52.600 finish them off. Like, he's used such dramatic language, very different from the, you know, ambiguous,

00:39:00.120 ambivalent language of the left. I wonder, does that follow through? Like, Trump is a very rhetorical

00:39:08.360 person. He uses language dramatically, hyperbole, social media. Like, it's riveting, it's entertaining.

00:39:15.480 How much of that gets implemented in the field? Like, I remember Israel, he once said, well, Israel,

00:39:23.640 why did you sell a bunch of weapons to Israel? I think he said, because they paid for it or something.

00:39:28.120 Like, I mean, just funny little one-liners. But has Israel indeed been given the grin like to finish

00:39:33.960 the job? Is the holdup on the Israeli side? I just, maybe there's a larger deal at play. Let me throw

00:39:40.440 one more thing into it. I remember when Israel detonated all those pagers and it just decimated

00:39:48.600 the leadership of Hezbollah in almost a Hollywood movie style. Jared Kushner, who I think was instrumental

00:39:56.040 in the first Abraham Accords, he wrote a long letter on Twitter, it was a public letter, and he said that

00:40:01.240 he had studied the map for hours and he could never figure out a way around Hezbollah. He felt like it

00:40:06.200 was giving Iran a veto in the region because it had so many weapons and it was much more sophisticated

00:40:12.120 than Hamas. And he remarked after that amazing preemptive strike by Israel that this made a whole

00:40:21.240 raft of possible things, this had different scenarios possible than ever were before. Maybe that's obvious,

00:40:27.880 but it was interesting to hear it from one of the architects of the original Abraham Accords. He said,

00:40:32.920 finally, maybe we can solve the regional issues because this implacable problem has been solved.

00:40:39.800 So maybe something is afoot beneath the surface that we don't see with the Saudis, with other

00:40:47.240 parties. Maybe that's the reason Israel's holding off. I don't know. That's nothing but speculation on

00:40:52.040 my part. I'm just waiting for things to be mopped up and I don't see it and I'm trying to understand why.

00:40:56.600 As you say, maybe there are things going on that we don't know about. That's certainly possible,

00:41:03.080 but assuming that's not the case and that we basically do understand the situation.

00:41:10.440 The Israelis have been ambivalent because they've had two goals. On the one hand,

00:41:21.080 as Benjamin Netanyahu has articulated, I count some 80 times, he wants total victory, complete victory,

00:41:29.880 absolute victory, and the like over Hamas. Very clear. Destruction of Hamas. No more Hamas.

00:41:36.840 On the other hand, Hamas took some 250 hostages, of which some 50 dead and alive remain. And the

00:41:46.920 return of the hostages, whether alive or dead, has been a parallel, urgent, paramount goal. Not so

00:41:57.240 much of the government, but of the population. Poll after poll has shown the population sees the return

00:42:04.440 of hostages as the most important goal. More important by implication than victory or destruction

00:42:10.680 of Hamas. So they've been at least two goals and they're incompatible. Because either you're

00:42:17.880 negotiating with Hamas for the hostages or you're destroying it. You can't do both at once.

00:42:23.960 And it's a very bizarre thing. I like to contrast, this may sound odd at first, but I'd like to contrast

00:42:31.560 Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941, with Hamas attack on October 7, 2023. Amas attack led to 1,200 deaths.

00:42:42.600 Pearl Harbor led to 2,400 deaths. So same order of magnitude. Pearl Harbor was about destroying ships

00:42:50.520 and planes, not about killing people. Yeah, that's nice from a Japanese point of view. But the point was,

00:42:55.480 there was all out war coming and you destroy the ships and the planes. Hamas did not attack a military

00:43:02.440 base. It attacked young people at a music festival. It wasn't interested in war, the implements of war.

00:43:10.760 It was interested in people, killing people and taking hostages. Imagine that the Japanese had gone to

00:43:18.120 Hawaii and taken hostages. Imagine that a whole American approach in response was to get the return of

00:43:24.200 hostages. It's absurd. And yet that is what the Israelis have done. They've made the return of

00:43:30.440 hostages so important. And therefore, the government, the military have been constrained

00:43:38.200 because they are worried that if they are too aggressive, they take too many steps to destroy

00:43:44.760 Hamas and control Gaza, the hostages will be killed, will be murdered. So that's why I think

00:43:51.720 the Israelis have been so reticent and inconsistent, talking absolute victory on the one hand,

00:43:57.800 negotiating in fine detail over how the hostages are going to be released, where and when and who

00:44:04.680 and so forth. It's a very, very strange thing. In general, I've been a critic of the Israeli

00:44:12.760 security establishment. I've seen the Israeli public as being tough, security establishment as being

00:44:17.880 appeasing. I'm sorry to say, it's the reverse now. It's the Israeli public that's been appeasing.

00:44:25.320 Let me ask you one last question. I appreciate your time. Trump talked about Gaza, taking it over,

00:44:31.720 rebuilding it, maybe relocating Palestinians. I could see glimmers of an idea under it to create. I mean,

00:44:39.880 Gaza should be beautiful. It's on the Mediterranean, which is notorious in a good way for its beautiful

00:44:45.720 beaches. I mean, this is the same place where, you know, Barcelona, or so many Italian, or even Tel Aviv

00:44:55.320 has got a great beach. It could be wonderful. It could be a Dubai. But you've brainwashed two million

00:45:02.680 people there over decades to be absolutely Nazi-like in their views towards Israel. Like, it's shocking to

00:45:12.440 me that the popular people say, oh, it's just a must on the population. In polls by Arab pollsters,

00:45:18.120 75% of the population supports terrorism, even now.

00:45:23.880 I don't read it differently. Go ahead.

00:45:27.800 I think if you look at the polls, both before October 7th and after, now after is very difficult,

00:45:33.560 but especially before, polls of Gaza,

00:45:36.040 in particular, you see a lot of dissent. You also anecdotally see a lot of dissent. There are

00:45:42.280 quite a few Gazans who are really upset, who want real changes. And I think it's a mistake to dismiss

00:45:49.160 the entire population as Nazi-like, as murderous. I think there are plenty of Gazans who want out,

00:45:56.600 especially now. But look, you know, historically, the West Bank was less hardline vis-a-vis Israel

00:46:04.600 than Gaza. Gaza was the place where they really, really felt strongly anti-Zionist. But as a result

00:46:11.240 of the experience of the last close to 20 years, where the West Bank has basically been left alone.

00:46:17.720 Israelis go in, they take someone out, but they basically left it alone. In contrast, Gaza,

00:46:23.720 because Hamas has over and over again, I think six times, attacked Israel and therefore been

00:46:31.320 attacked and returned by Israel and had massive destruction of buildings and infrastructure,

00:46:37.560 water, sewage, electricity. The Gazans are no longer the hardliners. Poll after poll after poll for years

00:46:44.680 now have shown the Gazans are more open to working with Israel. So I think it would be very advantageous

00:46:53.320 to Israel to find those Gazans to encourage that sentiment. I believe what the Israelis should be

00:47:00.040 doing is looking for Gazans who will work with them, not necessarily friends, but people who work

00:47:04.760 with them. And I would like to see the Israelis sponsor the Gazan-run administration and security

00:47:10.920 force that will control Gaza. I'd like to see them do what they did not do after they took Gaza down

00:47:17.800 the West Bank in 1967, which is to run a tough police state-like operation, where if you stay

00:47:25.560 out of politics, you're fine. You get involved in politics, you're in trouble. Police state, I mean

00:47:30.440 like Egypt and Jordan, the neighboring countries. This is not North Korea, but you and I as North

00:47:37.560 Americans would not want to live there. But you can live a peaceful life there. I'd like to see

00:47:43.320 the Israelis build that kind of administration. They've not done it. Netanyahu's talked about it

00:47:48.520 about a year ago. He talked about this as the goal. But there's so many distractions, so many

00:47:53.640 tensions and pressures that it's not been implemented. I hope they will get to that point.

00:47:59.640 You know, it was August of 2023 that Rebel News had a mission. We called it the Abraham Accords trip.

00:48:07.480 We went to Israel for a week, and then we flew directly from Tel Aviv to Dubai. And on both sides,

00:48:13.960 we met with people talking about the Abraham Accords. And it felt almost like a utopian time.

00:48:19.240 It felt like everything was possible. And to land on an El Al jet, flying over Saudi Arabia,

00:48:26.600 landing in Dubai, having people with Emirati headdress saying, welcome to Dubai, and stamping

00:48:34.040 you with a passport that obviously just came from Israel was so heartwarming. Like, I mean,

00:48:40.920 myself, I thought anything's possible. And for the first time, as I walked around Dubai and then Abu

00:48:46.280 Dhabi, look, they have a Holocaust museum in the UAE. And not celebrating the Holocaust,

00:48:52.360 let me jump in, you know, lamenting it, mourning it, memorializing it. There's actually a state-built

00:48:58.040 synagogue and church next to a mosque in Abu Dhabi that's used. Rabbis say they get less hassle in

00:49:08.760 Dubai than they do in New York City, incredibly. I felt like everything was possible. And I remember

00:49:14.520 standing in front of a large mosque in Dubai, and instead of feeling fear, I felt curiosity. And I could

00:49:21.080 admire the art and the design of it, because I no longer felt like it was a source of danger to me.

00:49:27.080 For the first time in my life, I was in a Muslim country, and I didn't feel danger or hate.

00:49:33.640 And I left that trip so encouraged and enthused. And then two months later, a Nazi-like massacre.

00:49:41.240 Do you think we can get back on track for that hopeful Abraham Accords round two? Like,

00:49:48.680 do you think it's possible? Or has Gaza screwed things up, which I think was part of the purpose of it?

00:49:57.640 I do think it's possible. Abu Dhabi and Dubai, the United Arab Emirates more broadly,

00:50:05.080 are the leaders of the Arab-Muslim world. What Egypt was in the 1960s, what Iran was in the 1990s,

00:50:16.520 the U.S. U.A. is today? It is the leader. It has money. It has worldwide networks.

00:50:27.640 It has prestige. It's a place people aspire to go to. So I think that model endures. Yes, it's been pushed

00:50:38.200 aside for the time being by Gaza. But I don't think Gaza, as a model, has no money, has no high rises,

00:50:49.160 there's no glamour, has no attraction. I think we will come out of this career intact.

00:50:58.440 Well, I'm going to disagree with you only on one thing, the glamour. I look across the West, I look at

00:51:03.640 New York City, Toronto, Montreal, London, and all that Gaza has is glamour in the hearts of Marxist,

00:51:13.320 Antifa, anti-Western dissidents across the West. It is the glamourist movement of the era. Even

00:51:21.880 Gerata Thunberg has, you know, thrown away her climate activism. She's now a Gaza activist. And of

00:51:28.920 course, that's fueled by-

00:51:29.080 Glamour for the hard left, yes. But the hard left is not that powerful.

00:51:36.120 Well, it feels powerful to me when I look at our universities, when I see 100,000 people marching

00:51:41.080 in London, England, chanting from the river to the sea, I feel like they're powerful. Demographically,

00:51:46.520 I feel like they're powerful. They have will and impact that's beyond their numbers, to be sure.

00:51:54.680 But I think their moment has passed. Let me give the illustration of the United States House of

00:52:03.800 Representatives, where the so-called squad is made up, depends how you're counted, of four to six

00:52:08.920 members, maybe eight even, out of 435. One percent? Two percent? It's very small, demographically, but very

00:52:19.720 loud and drove the agenda to a certain extent. I think that moment has passed. I think the

00:52:30.040 period of 2020 to 22 was a high-water mark for the hard left. And it reached into all sorts of

00:52:38.840 unpredictable areas, such as toilets, public toilets, such as fashion, having fat people become

00:52:46.840 fashion models. I think that's all in a treat. Now, I don't deny that the outspoken, determined hard

00:52:55.960 left has an outsized impact, but I don't think it can drive developments. I don't think that Gaza can

00:53:07.320 outpace the awakening.

00:53:09.160 Well, I hope you're right, because I'm here in Canada and I see the relentless march of the hard

00:53:16.760 left. Now, I think a lot of that's driven by mass immigration, but we won't get into that now. Dr.

00:53:20.840 Pipes, what a pleasure to catch up with you. And we followed this battle quite closely. Of course,

00:53:26.600 Donald Trump has completely disrupted everything, foreign affairs, economics,

00:53:32.600 western relations, NATO. It's quite a dramatic moment, so it's good to talk about this important issue

00:53:40.120 again. Thanks very much for spending the time with us. Thank you for inviting me. Right on. There you have

00:53:45.000 it. Dr. Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:53:48.920 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on Trudeau's two pensions. Crazy Boy Radio says,

00:54:08.120 not to mention the extra $400 million he has received in office. You know what? I don't think

00:54:14.920 that there is a source for that. We know that Mark Carney has made a lot of money on the side

00:54:19.400 while working for government, and we know that American senators have, and some of them disclose

00:54:24.920 that wealth, and that's how we know they're so wealthy. They're fancy stock trades. But I don't think

00:54:30.760 there's any evidence that Justin Trudeau has amassed $400 million while in office. It wouldn't

00:54:37.640 shock me if he had. I mean, we know the Chinese would happily have paid it, but I don't think there's

00:54:43.560 any evidence of that. If you have any, send it over, and boy, we'll toot that horn.

00:54:48.520 Mikey Boy says, Franco Territzano's name and the way he looks is a character out of Goodfellas,

00:54:53.800 and that is exactly who I want staying on top of the far-left liberals, taxpayer-funded deficit

00:54:58.360 spending, a smart young man who has a great future ahead of him. Thank you for serving Canadians.

00:55:05.080 Well, I like Franco a lot, and I hope you're not casting an dispersion there. I really like

00:55:11.560 Franco. I think he's got a great attitude. He's got high energy. He's loyal to taxpayers. I love

00:55:17.160 his name, too. I think he's just an absolutely top-notch guy, so I'm sure he'll take your

00:55:25.960 compliment in the spirit it's intended. On Tommy Robinson, ABM says,

00:55:31.000 what a disgrace that has taken someone outside Britain to bring this to the court. Well done,

00:55:36.600 Elon. You're referring to Elon Musk and the fact that he has, since the beginning of the year,

00:55:41.320 been funding Tommy's legal fees, and I think it's amazing, and it shows that Elon puts his money where

00:55:46.760 his mouth is. Well, that's the show for today, and that's it for the week. Until next time,

00:55:53.140 on behalf of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:55:58.060 Until next time!

Rebel News Podcast - March 22, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Mark Carney’s polling surge： don’t panic, Canada — it’s not over yet

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