Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Media Party still melting down after Rebels flip the script at Leaders’ Debate

00:00:00.200 Hello, my friends. The reverberations of the leaders debate last year keep on vibrating.

00:00:05.520 We're going to talk about a couple of crazy incidents, including a video I took of my encounter with the CBC.

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00:00:30.000 Tonight, more echoing vibrations from the leaders debate last week.

00:00:36.260 It's April 21st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:38.660 You're fighting for freedom!

00:00:41.580 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!

00:00:53.620 Hi, everybody. There's a few videos I want to show you today that I just recorded today.

00:00:57.500 The first one is about merch.

00:01:00.200 I hope you don't mind.

00:01:00.960 I'm wearing my hoodie today.

00:01:02.640 I actually forgot my jacket in Montreal, and they're sending it back here, but I'll have to get another jacket for the show.

00:01:10.400 I know I'm looking a little casual.

00:01:11.980 But I really love wearing this Rebel hoodie, and I don't talk a lot about our merch, but we do have a store, rebelnewsstore.com, and I love wearing this out and about.

00:01:21.680 People come over and chat with me, even in foreign countries.

00:01:25.800 I was in the United Kingdom, and a cabbie asked me about Rebel News and talked to me about Tommy Robinson.

00:01:30.540 So it's a great way to sort of show your identity.

00:01:33.540 And for people who don't know Rebel News, it sort of – it stays anonymous.

00:01:37.860 They just think, oh, that's some hip brand or something.

00:01:39.980 The reason I'm talking about our merch is because you might know that in 2016, when I first heard the word Make America Great Again, I thought that's a pretty cool word, pretty cool phrase.

00:01:52.260 How about Make Canada Great Again, too?

00:01:53.960 Canada was still pretty great then.

00:01:56.100 We hadn't decayed under a decade of Justin Trudeau yet.

00:02:00.720 And so I filled up the paperwork to apply for a trademark of Make Canada Great Again.

00:02:07.060 I just thought I'd probably use that one day for something.

00:02:10.420 And indeed, in 2019, I got the trademark, and we sell some merch at our store for Rebel News.

00:02:16.640 I mean, we use Make Canada Great Again as one of like 100 things we sell.

00:02:20.000 And we recently signed a licensing deal with a company that loved it so much and said, hey, we'll give you a portion of every hat we sell.

00:02:27.600 Well, that's win-win.

00:02:28.520 I tell you that to let you know that we actually do work the term Make Canada Great Again.

00:02:33.900 And I know not everybody likes that, but some people love it.

00:02:37.060 Which brings me to a lawsuit that I filed last week.

00:02:41.340 Here, watch this video, which we rolled out earlier today.

00:02:44.220 Take a look.

00:02:48.280 Hi, everybody.

00:02:49.120 Ezra Levant here.

00:02:49.760 I'm outside the CBC headquarters in Montreal, my stomping grounds.

00:02:54.220 I'm kidding around.

00:02:54.920 And if I weren't here because of the leaders' debate, they would probably escort me off the property.

00:02:58.540 But while we wait to go back in, they're just having the police dogs sniff around for any danger.

00:03:05.360 I want to tell you about something I did today that's got nothing to do with this debate.

00:03:11.180 Guys, I sued the Liberal Party of Canada today.

00:03:16.060 You can find the lawsuit at a special website I set up called lawbreakers.ca.

00:03:22.840 Because I allege in that lawsuit, and it's only 10 pages long.

00:03:25.520 It's a very quick read.

00:03:27.100 I allege that the Liberal Party broke the law and violated my rights.

00:03:31.320 Now, this isn't some cockamamie scheme.

00:03:34.160 They stole from me.

00:03:35.500 I don't know if you saw about a week ago, there was something called Buttongate. 0.83

00:03:40.180 Turns out some liberal dirty tricksters from the war room went to a conservative conference 0.71

00:03:44.920 and brought a bunch of sort of Trump paraphernalia and sort of pretended that it was conservative. 0.87

00:03:50.620 What they were trying to do was make Pierre Polyev look like a little mini MAGA guy, like a mini Trump.

00:03:57.480 So they had all these pins and Trump stuff, and one of them were pins that said, little buttons, that said, make Canada great again.

00:04:07.260 And the idea was that, look at that, ha, ha, ha, Pierre Polyev is just like Trump.

00:04:12.500 But it wasn't any conservatives, and it certainly wasn't the Conservative Party. 0.97

00:04:16.380 It was dirty tricksters from the liberal war room.

00:04:20.280 And I don't know if you remember, but Mark Carney was asked about this, and he pretty much confessed. 0.81

00:04:25.000 But instead of firing these unethical folks, he just reassigned them.

00:04:28.840 Did you see him say that?

00:04:29.900 Members of the liberal war room, so the central campaign, distributed stop the steal buttons at a conservative event.

00:04:36.000 Given the anti-democratic implications of this phrase, how much does this event undermine the trust in the way that the liberals operate?

00:04:42.700 And what have you done in response to these revelations?

00:04:45.480 Thanks for the question.

00:04:47.580 Look, this is totally unacceptable, to be absolutely clear.

00:04:50.700 And I, on behalf of my campaign, I was unaware of this behavior, but on behalf of my campaign, I apologize for it unreservedly.

00:05:01.800 I've made it absolutely clear to my campaign that this behavior or anything approximating it or in that spirit is unacceptable, cannot happen, cannot happen again.

00:05:13.180 Well, here's what they didn't think about when they did their dirty trick.

00:05:16.240 Number one, I know from experience, if you publish campaign material and do not register with Elections Canada and have written on your stuff authorized by the Liberal Party, you're violating election law.

00:05:27.740 It may not sound fair, but believe me, I went through it when I published my book, The Libranos.

00:05:31.960 They chased me for years.

00:05:33.820 And so I know, if you're campaigning in an election, you've got to put authorized by so-and-so.

00:05:38.300 But there's one more thing the liberals did wrong.

00:05:40.360 So, make Canada great again, I don't know if you know that, but a few years ago, I trademarked that phrase.

00:05:48.860 I had no idea that it would become a thing in the debate, but I, you can look it up, I registered the trademark to make Canada great again.

00:05:58.460 And the Liberal Dirty Tricksters stole that from me.

00:06:03.700 They stole my trademark without my permission. 0.91

00:06:06.620 They made buttons without my permission.

00:06:08.960 And they did it in violation of election law.

00:06:12.760 Now, the thing is, Mark Carney could have taken responsibility and said this is wrong and fired them, but he didn't.

00:06:18.140 He just reassigned them.

00:06:20.060 Who knows what they're working on now?

00:06:22.640 I'm suing.

00:06:24.040 Because that's my property.

00:06:25.520 Like it or not, I own Make Canada Great Again in Canada.

00:06:29.520 They deliberately tried to confuse people to make it look like it was Pierre Paulyevre or even me.

00:06:35.900 I don't know.

00:06:37.080 They violated election law.

00:06:39.260 So, I am suing them for violation of the trademark.

00:06:42.980 And in the lawsuit, it's a very quick read, it's only 10 pages, for violating election law and trademark law.

00:06:48.760 Go see for it yourself.

00:06:50.640 Here's what's interesting.

00:06:51.500 I've sued the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:06:53.240 But I've also sued John Doe 1 and John Doe 2.

00:06:58.460 Those are obviously not real names.

00:07:00.300 Those are placeholder names.

00:07:02.740 Until we find out who actually did it.

00:07:05.060 Are you a little bit curious?

00:07:07.180 Oh, I sure am.

00:07:08.780 Who was it that actually did this?

00:07:11.140 Who gave the orders to do it?

00:07:13.260 Who paid for it?

00:07:14.540 Those are all very relevant things when it comes to getting damages from them for stealing my trademark, but also for violating election laws.

00:07:24.240 Were there campaign managers in on it?

00:07:27.140 Was Mark Carney himself briefed on it?

00:07:29.460 Because all of that is going to be relevant.

00:07:31.920 And all of that will be discoverable in this lawsuit.

00:07:36.020 You might think, Ezra, let it go.

00:07:37.920 It's just a little theft.

00:07:39.120 It's like shoplifting.

00:07:40.980 No, no, no.

00:07:41.440 You missed the point.

00:07:43.140 When the prime minister of the country, who's prime minister now and running to be reelected for the prime minister, waves and blinks and laughs at lawbreaking, we're in deep trouble.

00:07:54.180 Now, Elections Canada would never do anything about this on their own.

00:07:57.160 But you know what?

00:07:58.160 I'm a Canadian and I've just filed the lawsuit.

00:08:01.840 Go to lawbreakers.ca to check out the lawsuit yourself.

00:08:07.760 And if you want to help me find out who the dirty tricksters are behind here and get a little justice, because no one else is going to, go to lawbreakers.ca and chip in a few dollars to help me cover the legal bills.

00:08:19.080 Let's hold these liberals accountable. 0.87

00:08:20.760 God knows these regime media journalists won't.

00:08:24.800 That's lawbreakers.ca.

00:08:29.460 What do you think of that?

00:08:31.540 I think it's, it feels like destiny or something or certainly chance that they stole property from me for their campaign dirty trick.

00:08:41.520 Like of all the people, don't they know I'm going to assert my rights?

00:08:44.940 I mean, I think if anyone else had the rights to some of those buttons, they would say, oh, what can you do?

00:08:49.460 The prime minister stole from you.

00:08:51.160 How are you going to fight back?

00:08:52.200 Well, I know some lawyers and I know a little bit about my rights and I actually do value that trademark.

00:08:58.040 So we're going to see the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:09:00.300 Not only them, but we're going to find out who John Doe number one and John Doe number two are.

00:09:04.760 All right.

00:09:05.080 I have one more video for you.

00:09:06.440 And this one, I want you to be very honest with me.

00:09:08.680 I want you to watch it and then send me your messages.

00:09:12.180 This is my encounter with David Cochran, the CBC journalist who spent basically all day last week smearing Rebel News, trying to get us kicked out of the debates commission.

00:09:23.580 I went to him during a commercial break and I said, hey, you're bashing me on air.

00:09:28.380 Can I come on for a write a reply?

00:09:30.740 And they basically said, buzz off.

00:09:32.720 After that, he told everyone who would listen that I busted up his show.

00:09:36.500 I interrupt his broadcast.

00:09:37.680 I was a wild beast.

00:09:40.900 And I had videoed my interaction.

00:09:43.080 I thought, he's lying.

00:09:44.900 And so many people believed his lies.

00:09:46.920 I said, you know what?

00:09:48.000 I'm going to publish the video of our interaction.

00:09:50.640 Here, take a look.

00:09:52.040 Hey, there was a weird moment at the leaders' debates in Montreal last week where the CBC sort of stopped reporting on the news about the election and instead turned into a lobby group trying to get the debates commission to ban Rebel News from being accredited.

00:10:06.680 Even though two courts had said it was an illegal infringement on our freedom of the press to keep us out.

00:10:13.680 Nonetheless, the CBC, and in particular, their host, David Cochran, who I'd actually never spoken to before, they were just obsessed with getting us kicked out.

00:10:23.580 Talk about inside baseball, though.

00:10:25.340 No one else in the country cared.

00:10:26.660 Now, I watched some of David Cochran's reports, including him making the allegation that Rebel News was somehow doing illegal things with our beautiful billboard truck.

00:10:38.080 Cochran actually told that lie to the debates commissioner himself as part of his vendetta at Rebel News.

00:10:45.360 It was really weird.

00:10:46.120 Watch just for a moment.

00:10:47.600 Okay, so I know the past precedents, but this is a filing with Elections Canada from this election where Rebel News has filed as a third-party advertising group.

00:10:57.640 They are raising money in their own documents for partisan political activities.

00:11:02.980 That's not what a journalistic organization does, right?

00:11:05.920 So I appreciate that you've lost in the past, but if they are raising money to run ads to influence the outcome of an election, surely a judge would look at that and say, this isn't a journalistic organization.

00:11:20.080 Perhaps we didn't get there.

00:11:21.960 But why not?

00:11:23.140 Like, I understand you lost before.

00:11:24.600 This is a material change in their conduct.

00:11:27.160 They have this truck going around with a video wall promoting conspiracy theories and allegations, mostly against Mark Carney, let's face it.

00:11:36.140 Like, we're showing it there.

00:11:37.040 You can see this on the screen.

00:11:39.600 You know, that is one of the few things we can show on TV that appears on the side of that.

00:11:46.160 I mean, this looks like evidence in a court battle.

00:11:49.160 I mean, you are entrusted with this authority.

00:11:50.880 Why not fight for what you believe here?

00:11:52.620 We showed them in the last lawsuit doing a political advocacy, and they did not convince the judge.

00:12:01.680 So for us, this argument was not going to be more effective this time.

00:12:08.780 Yeah, that's sort of crazy.

00:12:09.940 They also complained that we had a third-party campaign group, just like the CBC has, just like most journalists do with their union uniform.

00:12:17.720 Anyways, Cochran was factually inaccurate there.

00:12:22.180 Those ads on the billboard truck are clearly marked.

00:12:24.860 They weren't Rebel News ads.

00:12:26.420 The CBC was accusing us of doing something contrary to the Elections Act.

00:12:30.320 This was on top of a full day's defamation of us.

00:12:33.660 It really was remarkable, the vendetta.

00:12:36.280 So I waited until Cochran was clearly in a break, and I politely approached him on his set to ask him if I could come on a show, even for a few minutes, to try to set the record straight.

00:12:50.240 It's weird that he was spending so much time slandering us without even asking us for our side of the story.

00:12:55.480 I mean, we were right there.

00:12:56.700 So I waited until it was really clear that he wasn't on TV, because I saw other guests standing up and leaving the set, and a producer in a bright red shirt standing up to do things on the set, obviously blocking the camera shot.

00:13:10.160 So I knew that they weren't on the air, and I went over to ask for a right of reply, and I was refused.

00:13:17.960 So I left after just over a minute.

00:13:21.060 They never did let me or any other rebels on to correct their lies.

00:13:24.360 In fact, they did the opposite.

00:13:26.360 After I asked for a rebuttal, they ran to Michel Cormier, that's that debate commissioner, and they told him that I had come onto their set and into their set, that's what they said, and that I wouldn't leave, that's what they said, and that I interrupted a live broadcast, that's what they said.

00:13:43.640 They demanded that I be kicked out for this.

00:13:46.360 Now, obviously, Cormier had told the CBC that based on that complaint, he would indeed kick me out.

00:13:54.360 Because Cochran reported on TV that I had been kicked out.

00:13:58.000 Did you see this?

00:13:58.860 Here's what's going on here.

00:14:00.560 To my left, there's the room there where the media is gathered.

00:14:04.020 It's where they can watch the debates.

00:14:06.320 This is where the scrums are happening with the leaders.

00:14:09.360 There was some sort of an altercation inside there in the last little while involving Ezra Levant, who is the head of Rebel News and other journalists.

00:14:18.000 Michel Cormier has escorted Ezra Levant out.

00:14:20.640 His credentials, we believe, has been revoked.

00:14:22.700 But that just didn't happen.

00:14:26.420 Because I showed Cormier a video of the whole incident, and he immediately realized that the CBC had lied to him about us and what I had done.

00:14:36.900 Believe me, Michel Cormier does not like me and Rebel News, and he would have loved to have kicked me out.

00:14:42.880 And frankly, if I really did crash the CBC's live broadcast, they probably should have kicked me out.

00:14:47.820 But David Cochran just made up a false story.

00:14:53.300 Another defamation of us.

00:14:55.680 Cochran was still raging about us, and here's what he wrote on Twitter.

00:15:00.760 He said,

00:15:01.100 We were playing a 60-second report when Ezra accosted me.

00:15:04.720 He wouldn't stop.

00:15:06.280 So the control room in Ottawa kept playing tape to prevent the incident from carried live on air.

00:15:11.340 The debate commission wouldn't take action because we were in commercial.

00:15:14.660 We weren't.

00:15:15.320 So this was allowed to continue.

00:15:17.300 We had to scramble to cover the incident by placing tape until it was over.

00:15:21.440 No proper professional interrupt the broadcast or work of another professional journalist.

00:15:26.500 We were inside an RCMP-swept security perimeter today for our job, and the Montreal police had to be called,

00:15:33.260 and we had to sneak out of the building we owned with the help of security to get home safely.

00:15:39.640 Oh my God, was it really that bad?

00:15:42.560 Is any of that true?

00:15:43.900 If it was true, you'd think the CBC would release video of it.

00:15:49.920 I mean, after all, they literally caught it all on camera.

00:15:54.280 Is it really true that I wouldn't stop?

00:15:56.680 Is it really true that they had to scramble, or is it in fact true that they were on a break,

00:16:01.720 and their own producer was leisurely puttering around the set,

00:16:05.340 doing things I don't know exactly what he was doing before I arrived, while I was there, and after I left?

00:16:11.160 Did they really scramble, given that our entire chat was about a minute?

00:16:17.560 And did they really call police?

00:16:20.480 And did they really have to sneak out at night because of their safety?

00:16:24.980 Is all of that true?

00:16:26.540 Is any of that true?

00:16:30.160 Well, lucky for me, we recorded the incident.

00:16:32.500 Take a look at the full, unedited interaction.

00:16:36.320 Observe that when I arrived, a producer was standing in the shot.

00:16:40.000 Observe how I asked if I could somehow reply to their day-long attacks on me, and I was told no.

00:16:45.760 And after asking a few times, I just laughed.

00:16:49.500 And if you can find any police in the video, let me know.

00:16:54.160 Okay, let's take a look.

00:16:56.740 Play the tape.

00:16:58.180 So you can see, I arrive, and there's a CBC guest.

00:17:01.900 Okay, stop right there.

00:17:02.940 So that was a guest getting off the panel.

00:17:06.280 And you can see someone in a red shirt or sweater puttering with Rosemary Barton's earpiece or something.

00:17:15.580 So you could see that that first guest who was just leaving the CBC panel, he was in the shot where I am now.

00:17:22.840 He casually said hi to me.

00:17:24.820 You can see there's a producer in red who's puttering around in the shot.

00:17:29.520 They're all clearly on a break.

00:17:32.280 And I introduced myself immediately and said why I was there.

00:17:35.960 Here, watch a little bit more.

00:17:38.040 Yeah.

00:17:38.700 How are you doing?

00:17:40.360 I'm live on the air.

00:17:41.520 Okay, I'm live on the air.

00:17:44.120 I don't interrupt your broadcast, but I should not interrupt mine.

00:17:47.200 Okay, stop for a second.

00:17:49.960 He said they're live on the air.

00:17:52.660 Is that true?

00:17:53.580 Do you see the guy in the red sweater with the hat on, puttering with Rosemary Barton's equipment?

00:18:00.860 Was this really on air?

00:18:02.960 This was happening before I approached.

00:18:05.320 This is why I approached.

00:18:07.100 I could see that they were not on air at all.

00:18:10.260 Maybe they were about to be, but not in any way that that guy in the red vest took seriously.

00:18:15.960 You'll see that he was there before I arrived, while I was there, and after I was gone.

00:18:20.920 Was he scrambling?

00:18:22.140 Were they talking at all?

00:18:25.540 No, they weren't.

00:18:26.260 Here, keep playing some more.

00:18:28.220 Here.

00:18:28.660 Can I come back and...

00:18:29.700 Do you want to get a call by?

00:18:30.940 Yeah.

00:18:32.100 You have to say, me, I'm going to get a call by.

00:18:34.020 You have to hear it from me.

00:18:35.480 You have to hear it from me.

00:18:36.260 You have to...

00:18:37.140 I'm going to ask you, please respect our broadcast.

00:18:39.340 Okay, can I come back a moment and rebuttal me?

00:18:41.160 I am not here.

00:18:45.420 I think we have to correct something you said.

00:18:48.320 Sir, we have to drop it in the face.

00:18:49.800 Please, please.

00:18:50.400 Thank you.

00:18:50.760 Did you see my challenge right there?

00:18:53.420 Yeah, it's been fine.

00:18:54.320 Okay, stop it right there.

00:18:55.900 So, I didn't go to talk to Rosemary Barton.

00:18:58.300 I mean, she lied about us in other ways, but I really went because David Cochran had this

00:19:03.560 whole day-long vendetta against us.

00:19:06.440 Rosemary Barton stood up, instead of doing whatever she was going to do, and squared up 1.00

00:19:11.680 with me and called security to have me thrown out.

00:19:15.180 All right.

00:19:17.100 I mean, in fact, you can see I stepped down and start to leave.

00:19:20.440 I'm only a few seconds away from leaving, but these people were not on air.

00:19:25.740 They were not trying to make a broadcast.

00:19:28.640 They were not in any rush at all.

00:19:30.500 The fella in the red sweater kept doing what he was doing, but Rosemary Barton was quite 1.00

00:19:35.840 aggressive, or at least tried to get the security to be aggressive.

00:19:39.240 But, you know, I left soon enough.

00:19:41.800 Here, take a look.

00:19:43.520 All right.

00:19:44.340 Well, David, I'd like to come back on and rebut some of your errors about revolution.

00:19:49.100 Yeah.

00:19:49.300 That's cool.

00:19:49.900 See you later.

00:19:51.080 Have a good debate.

00:19:54.480 Who can I talk to about that?

00:19:56.340 Is there someone I can talk to on your day?

00:20:09.880 So stop for there.

00:20:11.380 So by now, I'm out of the shot.

00:20:13.460 The guy in the red sweater is still there doing, I'm not sure what he was doing, but

00:20:17.660 he was still doing it.

00:20:18.560 They're obviously not live.

00:20:20.400 None of them are live.

00:20:21.280 None of them are being broadcast.

00:20:22.780 And I've stepped away because, frankly, I don't want to, you know, put the security in

00:20:27.620 the pickle.

00:20:28.040 They were commanded by Rosemary Barton to shoo me away. 1.00

00:20:30.360 But I'm still asking, is there anyone I can talk to?

00:20:33.960 I mean, they had talked about us all day and said some very particular false facts about

00:20:40.040 us.

00:20:40.220 They defamed us.

00:20:41.500 And I waited until there was a moment to talk to them.

00:20:43.800 I mean, normally you reach out to someone you're going to attack in journalism just to

00:20:47.660 make sure you get your facts straight.

00:20:49.120 They didn't do that.

00:20:50.060 I positively said, hey, is there anyone I can talk to?

00:20:53.620 Can I come on the show?

00:20:55.260 You said some defamatory things.

00:20:56.980 I'd like to rebut them even for a few minutes.

00:21:00.060 And all they said was, we're busy.

00:21:02.680 Go away.

00:21:03.640 Go away.

00:21:04.180 Go away.

00:21:04.800 Go away.

00:21:05.700 Rosemary Barton really felt like chiming in for some reason.

00:21:08.380 I think she's got a bit of a, she hates rebel news, but I made a gentle crack about the

00:21:14.100 two of us.

00:21:14.700 I had challenged her, the two of us to have a public fitness contest.

00:21:19.100 I don't think she'd like that very much.

00:21:21.000 Anyhow, keep playing the rest of the tape.

00:21:27.080 So stop there again.

00:21:32.860 Rosemary Barton literally pivoted in her seat, spun around because she still wanted to argue 1.00

00:21:38.460 bargy with me.

00:21:39.880 These are not people who were on air.

00:21:42.060 These are not people who were busy.

00:21:43.720 These are people who were still puttering in some break.

00:21:46.060 The guy in the red jacket is still there.

00:21:47.660 The reason I tell you all this is twofold.

00:21:51.480 To let you know just how unprofessional they are in terms of getting the other side of the

00:21:57.620 story.

00:21:58.580 All day they had been attacking and smearing and lying about rebel news, but they never

00:22:04.140 once reached out to us to check a fact or invite us on for some right of reply.

00:22:09.020 Never once.

00:22:09.580 So I calmly waited until I could see they were not on air to ask for that opportunity.

00:22:15.440 I didn't raise my voice.

00:22:16.660 I didn't swear.

00:22:17.640 I didn't shout.

00:22:18.960 I didn't call security.

00:22:20.920 I just said, can I come on the show?

00:22:23.220 Who do I talk to?

00:22:24.580 Is there a producer?

00:22:25.980 Is there a lawyer?

00:22:27.280 You'd think at that point they would say, send an email or here's a phone number or we'll

00:22:32.480 send someone over.

00:22:33.400 They basically said, ha, no, we will never platform you.

00:22:38.080 That's essentially what they said.

00:22:40.480 So I left.

00:22:41.960 Total engagement time, just over 80 seconds.

00:22:45.660 Play the rest of the clip.

00:22:46.580 All right, we'll have to find another way.

00:23:05.940 And that's it.

00:23:07.800 Is that how David Cochran described it?

00:23:10.740 It is not. 0.96

00:23:11.840 The CBC are liars. 1.00

00:23:13.560 David Cochran and Rosemary Barton, they're liars. 1.00

00:23:16.100 They lied about Rebel News. 0.97

00:23:17.940 They lied about our reporter, Drea Humphrey.

00:23:19.840 I don't know if you saw, but in her case, they actually were forced to issue a grudging

00:23:23.960 correction, even though that correction wasn't man enough to say sorry to Drea, or in fact,

00:23:29.260 to say who their correction was about, who they smeared at all.

00:23:34.420 I think the CBC are out of control.

00:23:36.940 They were not acting as journalists at the debate.

00:23:38.980 They were Mark Carney's personal smear machine.

00:23:42.180 They were trying to get us kicked out of there.

00:23:44.340 David Cochran lied on the air, and then he lied in his tweets, and then he lied to the

00:23:48.780 Debates Commission.

00:23:50.160 You saw his tweets.

00:23:51.200 He lied.

00:23:52.220 We never interrupted their broadcasts at all.

00:23:55.700 Never trust a word the CBC says.

00:23:58.780 Always remember, they hate you.

00:24:02.720 Sign our petition at cbclies.com.

00:24:06.320 The petition is that they should stop treating the CBC as a personal vengeance machine.

00:24:13.240 I know they don't like Rebel News, and I know they hate me and hate Drea Humphrey and

00:24:17.760 hate our team.

00:24:19.020 But if they're going to be journalists, they should invite people on when they attack them,

00:24:23.200 and they shouldn't be so afraid to have the other side of the story on their show.

00:24:27.360 They're welcome on my show anytime.

00:24:29.400 Those are words you'll never hear from them.

00:24:30.680 Go to cbclies.com.

00:24:36.180 What do you think of that?

00:24:36.980 I want you to be very candid with me.

00:24:38.200 Was I rude?

00:24:39.240 Maybe a little bit.

00:24:40.080 Was I too rude?

00:24:41.000 Definitely not.

00:24:41.740 Were they in the wrong by not asking us for our side of the story?

00:24:45.420 I think so.

00:24:46.880 Hey, while I'm asking for your feedback, let me read to you some of the comments that

00:24:51.100 folks are making under the video on the paywall site.

00:24:55.840 So these are Rebel News Plus comments, and there were so many nice comments in the last

00:25:00.020 few days.

00:25:00.520 I'm going to read some of them to you.

00:25:03.220 Bernhard Jatsek says, after seeing a number of videos of the reactions to what happened

00:25:07.460 with the post-debate media scrum yesterday, one can safely conclude that the days of gentlemanly

00:25:12.020 reporting, typified by the work of people like Norman DePoe and Charles Lynch, are a thing

00:25:16.560 of the past.

00:25:18.100 The vitriol and language used to describe Rebel News, and Ezra Llan in particular, would never

00:25:22.540 have been tolerated 50 years ago.

00:25:23.900 Then again, journalists were allowed free and independent thought back then.

00:25:28.500 It was crazy.

00:25:29.860 And I mean, I got a really thick skin.

00:25:31.340 I don't care.

00:25:32.520 But the way they went after Drea Humphrey was shocking.

00:25:35.960 And the way that the Quebec, Quebecois media went after Alexa Lavoie, I tell you how those

00:25:41.100 young women stood up to this, it was amazing to see their resilience.

00:25:46.440 Jerry Purvis says, great job, Rebels. 0.84

00:25:48.460 Once again, you exposed the regime media for what it is, smug, arrogant, and condescending. 0.58

00:25:51.840 It's the same here in the States. 0.94

00:25:53.240 As someone explained that attitude to me, if liars' pants really did catch on fire, the

00:25:56.940 news would be a lot more fun to watch.

00:25:59.940 Yeah, I mean, they did all the things they accuse us of doing.

00:26:03.560 They were rude and disruptive.

00:26:06.140 That's what they accused us of doing, but we're not that way.

00:26:08.360 Bernard Jacek actually has a second comment and says, did any of them actually see how

00:26:16.700 that nut bar reporter for The Hill verbally attacked Kian Bextie and then Ezra Levant?

00:26:21.140 No doubt the presidents of Juno and Rebel were considered unprovoked acts of violence.

00:26:25.500 By the looks of things, the leftist media finally has their January 6th type of incident that

00:26:29.420 it's been craving for years.

00:26:30.240 That's exactly what I said.

00:26:32.460 I said they trumped it up into, oh my God, we had to, if you listen to the CBC, they said,

00:26:39.920 well, we need a police and we needed an escort to get out of there and I was violated.

00:26:44.980 I mean, I think they've been radicalized or something's wrong with them.

00:26:49.360 These people are not right in the head.

00:26:51.980 Susan Gerbis says, that CBC review for Mark's comment, Rebel News was to blame for everything. 0.91

00:26:56.300 What absolute cowards our national media is.

00:26:58.580 Please vote conservative so Pierre can abolish this leeching organization. 1.00

00:27:02.420 You know, it's a terrible idea to have the government run debates because all those decisions

00:27:07.300 are not proper for the government to make.

00:27:10.020 The government should not decide who can and can't attend.

00:27:12.960 And it's the fact that they tried that gives us the charter right to go to court.

00:27:17.340 Perversely, paradoxically, ironically, whatever you want to say, the fact that Justin Trudeau

00:27:21.500 nationalized debates is precisely how we get in because it makes it something subject to

00:27:27.260 the Charter of Rights and the courts.

00:27:30.060 David Neal says, make this episode free and spread it out there.

00:27:33.320 We did.

00:27:34.640 We emailed it out far and wide.

00:27:37.060 I'll just read one or two more.

00:27:38.200 I really like these comments.

00:27:39.280 These are comments that you can make right under our video.

00:27:44.540 Bruce Atchison has a very long one.

00:27:47.180 I'm not going to read it all, but I'll encourage you to find it on our site.

00:27:49.280 And I'll close with Nicola Timmerman, who says, our household just resubscribed to Rebel

00:27:53.860 News after the incredible smearing of Rebel going on by the media.

00:27:57.000 I believe Ezra said commissioner asked to speak to him about the English debate and he

00:28:00.560 offered to let him ask one question and Ezra agreed.

00:28:03.840 So why cancel the scrum and why no journalist present?

00:28:06.880 What Ezra said, not making a fuss about getting more questions and Menzies getting attacked 0.99

00:28:10.460 again.

00:28:10.900 Crazy.

00:28:11.500 You're right.

00:28:12.280 I love the idea of just having one question instead of a question and a supplementary

00:28:16.280 question.

00:28:16.760 Sorry, I totally agree with that.

00:28:18.200 That would have a lot more questions go through.

00:28:21.080 Second of all, I think it's a good idea to limit a question to 30 seconds or more, probably

00:28:26.200 60 seconds.

00:28:27.000 So sorry, I misunderstood your letter.

00:28:28.740 I absolutely agree with what you said there.

00:28:30.900 But the whole point wasn't to make it a better debate or a better scrum.

00:28:34.680 Their point was to shut down Rebel News any way they could.

00:28:37.720 And in the end, the only way that they could was to nuke the whole thing.

00:28:40.980 It was really sad. 0.95

00:28:41.620 I mean, Jagmeet Singh is a bit of a racist. 0.87

00:28:49.460 He wouldn't answer the question by the only black woman in the room, Drea Humphrey. 0.97

00:28:52.800 He looked down his nose at her and it was sort of a gross moment where he mansplained

00:28:57.520 to her that she wouldn't, she's not allowed to ask questions. 0.94

00:29:00.500 He was pretty gross. 1.00

00:29:01.320 But let's be honest, Jagmeet Singh is sort of dumb. 0.99

00:29:05.960 I mean, he's really cool. 0.99

00:29:07.180 I'll grant you that.

00:29:08.180 He's really good at TikTok videos. 1.00

00:29:09.920 But he's sort of dumb. 0.97

00:29:11.360 And I think by saying I'm not going to talk to Rebel News, that lets him avoid answering 0.99

00:29:15.920 tough questions. 0.99

00:29:17.240 When I say he's sort of dumb, he just sort of is. 0.98

00:29:19.840 Is there a single policy out there that you can say Jagmeet Singh really knows his stuff? 0.99

00:29:23.900 There was an interesting little statistic that the debate showed of how many minutes of talk

00:29:30.680 time each candidate had.

00:29:32.900 And to their credit, I thought the debate itself was quite well run, by the way, both the English

00:29:37.680 and the French.

00:29:38.440 The French debate, they tallied up how many minutes and seconds each candidate got.

00:29:45.680 And Jagmeet Singh was way down low because the guy is not built for debating.

00:29:50.940 He's not really built for ideas or answering tough questions.

00:29:54.560 So I think one of Jagmeet Singh's strategies for avoiding embarrassment is to say, oh, I

00:30:00.260 don't like that journalist, so I'm not going to answer that completely legit question.

00:30:03.540 Anyway, I want to show one of the videos that one of the questions to Jagmeet Singh, I say

00:30:09.320 again, it was our own Drea Humphrey.

00:30:11.780 And she asked a question about the anti-Christian crime wave in Canada.

00:30:17.540 I talk a fair bit about the anti-Semitic crime wave in Canada.

00:30:20.560 The torching of synagogues, smashing glass, shooting up a girls' school.

00:30:26.520 Like there's this very serious crime wave against Jewish institutions.

00:30:30.380 But there's also one against Christian institutions.

00:30:33.560 And thank God it hasn't had anyone harmed yet.

00:30:38.840 But over 200 Christian churches have been vandalized or even burnt.

00:30:43.060 You might recall a few weeks ago I went up to Winnipeg to film a church that had been

00:30:46.660 totally torched.

00:30:47.660 So Drea Humphrey, who is herself Christian, and by the way, black and indigenous, asked

00:30:53.980 a question to Jagmeet Singh.

00:30:56.000 And I want to show the question, but Efron, I also want to show Rosemary Barton's response

00:31:00.380 to it.

00:31:01.440 So here's Drea's question, which was an excellent question.

00:31:05.500 The CBC hated this question.

00:31:07.440 I'll show you how.

00:31:08.100 Take a look.

00:31:08.400 Hello, Mr. Singh.

00:31:10.500 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:31:12.580 Your party takes great pride in standing against hate such as white supremacy, Islamophobia,

00:31:17.560 and online...

00:31:17.740 Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.

00:31:19.920 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:31:21.380 Okay.

00:31:22.440 Your party...

00:31:23.000 You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?

00:31:25.300 Can I speak?

00:31:26.200 Yeah, you can.

00:31:26.740 I'm just going to say you know where I'm going to go with it, though.

00:31:28.340 Wow.

00:31:28.720 Your party takes pride in standing against hate such as white supremacy, Islamophobia,

00:31:33.740 and online hate speech.

00:31:35.600 Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians, even after Conservative MP

00:31:41.280 Jamil Javani's order paper question revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by

00:31:46.980 arson and vandalism since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools

00:31:52.480 swept the nation in 2021.

00:31:54.260 These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that

00:32:01.540 have not.

00:32:02.800 Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today and explain what

00:32:08.020 your party will do moving forward to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?

00:32:14.440 Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization that promotes misinformation

00:32:18.840 and disinformation like Rebel News, so no, I'm not going to respond to your question.

00:32:22.420 Wow.

00:32:22.700 Well, she said it had no misinformation.

00:32:25.420 Thanks very much.

00:32:26.340 That's enough for that clip.

00:32:27.400 So he called that misinformation and disinformation.

00:32:30.620 And so did Rosemary Barton, my doppelganger at CBC.

00:32:38.200 Do you have that clip of Rosemary Barton just raging against Drea? 0.83

00:32:42.280 Drea has been on this, she actually went to Kamloops to look into the allegation of mass graves.

00:32:52.880 She actually bumped into the chief and talked to the chief.

00:32:54.920 Okay.

00:32:55.880 Take a look at Rosemary Barton describing Drea's question as factually false.

00:33:02.360 Take a look.

00:33:02.720 I think we have to sort of address the elephant in the room.

00:33:06.440 How are these people chosen to answer these questions?

00:33:10.040 And I don't know if either one of you have an answer for that, but I think there will be people

00:33:13.200 at home saying, some of these seem like odd questions, some of them aren't getting answered.

00:33:17.440 How come we've heard so often from this one particular outlet?

00:33:20.760 Any idea what's going on there?

00:33:21.720 There's three right-wing, very right-wing media, we can call them media, websites that are present

00:33:28.960 in there.

00:33:30.360 They get in line to ask a question like anybody else.

00:33:32.940 Their accreditation has been approved by the Commission of Debates.

00:33:36.220 And so they get the right to stand in line and ask a question that they choose to ask.

00:33:41.480 In this case, you saw Mr. Singh, and this has been his position for some time, to refuse

00:33:45.920 to answer questions.

00:33:46.940 Rebel News in particular, traffics in misinformation, facts, lack of facts, and as you heard in that

00:33:54.060 question, which was woven with some truth and some things that weren't true.

00:33:58.760 Yes, there have been burnings of Christian Catholic churches.

00:34:03.040 Yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places around the

00:34:08.020 country, which she misrepresented.

00:34:10.000 We'll see if Mr. Poliev gets any questions.

00:34:12.440 Well, in fact, Mr. Poliev did get questions from Rebel News.

00:34:15.700 There's two questions asked by Sheila Gunn-Reed, and they were great questions.

00:34:18.840 There's some sort of weird implication there that we don't ask tough questions of Pierre

00:34:22.820 Poliev.

00:34:23.960 But let me bring your attention to something that I just discovered today, which is a correction.

00:34:29.960 Do you have that handy, Efron?

00:34:31.640 The official correction on the CBC's website.

00:34:35.700 Now, you can see it right there.

00:34:39.220 Yeah, scroll down a little bit.

00:34:40.320 They made the correction on the 17th.

00:34:44.020 They said, on April 16th, during a live broadcast following the French-language federal election

00:34:49.060 leaders' debate on CBC News Network, Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton said,

00:34:54.260 quote, yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places across the country.

00:34:59.920 As CBC News has reported on multiple occasions, what several Indigenous communities across Canada

00:35:04.420 have discovered on the sites of some former residential schools are potential burial sites

00:35:10.360 or unmarked graves.

00:35:14.100 So there have been no unmarked graves that have been found.

00:35:17.060 Because none of this, I mean, the accusation has been made by airheads like Jagmeet Singh and Rosemary Barton.

00:35:23.120 But none of them have been found yet.

00:35:25.780 So she was lying. 1.00

00:35:27.940 Or maybe she's just dumb. 1.00

00:35:29.440 I don't know which one's a better one. 1.00

00:35:31.880 Are you lying?

00:35:32.760 Like, did you know it was a lie and you said it on purpose? 1.00

00:35:35.020 Or are you just that dumb? 1.00

00:35:37.020 You're the chief political correspondent for the state broadcaster, 1.00

00:35:39.860 and you don't know your basic facts about an incredibly large issue.

00:35:43.200 But imagine the chutzpah to call Drea the misinformation peddler. 0.99

00:35:50.360 In a fact check, you position yourself as a fact checker.

00:35:54.740 The CBC did more fact-checking of rebel news at the debates than they did of Mark Carney,

00:36:04.180 who they're championing for obvious reasons.

00:36:06.420 He said, far from cutting the CBC, as Pierre Polly was promised to do,

00:36:10.860 he's going to give them a boost in spending. 0.61

00:36:16.140 Rosemary Barton is a disgrace. 1.00

00:36:18.500 The CBC is a disgrace. 0.99

00:36:19.680 They lied about Drea. 0.97

00:36:23.840 Much more importantly, they lied about the truth.

00:36:26.020 They lied about indigenous graves.

00:36:30.620 And they don't, you know what, we get things wrong once in a while.

00:36:34.000 We occasionally publish corrections, and even occasionally we publish apologies,

00:36:38.380 as in we didn't just get it wrong in a neutral way.

00:36:41.040 We got it wrong in a way that hurt someone.

00:36:42.980 Every once in a while we publish an apology.

00:36:44.620 It doesn't happen often, because we take getting our facts accurately very seriously.

00:36:48.220 But every once in a while we have an apology, a retraction, a correction, whatever.

00:36:54.260 You'll notice that so-called correction did not say who they were smearing.

00:36:59.840 They couldn't bring themselves to say it was Drea and Rebel News who got it right.

00:37:04.600 And second of all, they didn't tweet this.

00:37:09.640 Rosemary Barton didn't retweet this.

00:37:11.540 They buried this on a page of the CBC that no one ever goes to.

00:37:17.280 That shows their mind, doesn't it?

00:37:20.220 You know, they're not glad to be corrected.

00:37:22.380 They're not happy that the truth came out.

00:37:24.580 Because they prefer the lies because it suits their agenda.

00:37:27.980 And, you know, what a day it was.

00:37:29.500 What a couple of days.

00:37:30.480 And Rebel News just smashed it.

00:37:32.200 And I got to tell you, it was such a team feeling.

00:37:33.800 I was so proud of our people.

00:37:35.540 And what you couldn't see in that Drea Humphrey clip, and I mentioned this that night.

00:37:39.800 I don't know if you saw my live stream comments.

00:37:43.180 One thing Rosemary Barton said accurately is there's a ton of other journalists in the room. 1.00

00:37:47.980 A hundred, a hundred and fifty, somewhere between a hundred and a hundred and fifty.

00:37:51.300 Let's say a hundred and twenty.

00:37:53.400 And anyone can get in line.

00:37:55.900 So we just got in line and four out of the five of us had questions.

00:37:59.180 I actually was the only guy on our team that didn't move fast enough to get in line.

00:38:02.880 Um, the CBC had four questions too.

00:38:07.360 There were seventeen questions asked.

00:38:09.300 We had four.

00:38:09.860 CBC had four.

00:38:10.960 And the other guys had the rest.

00:38:12.560 And we just moved a little bit faster than the other guys.

00:38:15.160 Um, you know, how about work a little harder if you want to beat Rebel News?

00:38:20.440 They're so lazy because they've never really had true competition before.

00:38:25.440 I don't know if you remember that clip, uh, where, where it was David Cochran, the bald guy.

00:38:31.700 Rosemary Barton, my separated at birth twin.

00:38:35.140 And then there was a, a commentator on the other side, Adrian Arsenault, who said, some

00:38:41.220 viewers at home might find these questions to be odd.

00:38:45.060 What?

00:38:47.200 Who, who, who the hell are you to say that?

00:38:50.040 She was objecting to the substance of our questions.

00:38:52.960 As if the C, and, and there was an extended conversation to that effect.

00:38:57.580 And they were basically saying, how dare you ask things that we don't approve of? 0.97

00:39:04.160 Literally, who the hell are you, sister? 0.98

00:39:06.700 Like, who the hell are you? 0.99

00:39:08.900 That's what irked them. 0.96

00:39:10.420 It wasn't that we had four questions.

00:39:11.740 Like I say, the CBC had four questions.

00:39:13.800 That didn't irk anybody because they were the right kind of questions, weren't they?

00:39:18.320 Just unbelievable.

00:39:20.280 Um, yeah, they call, is that a new clip you've got there?

00:39:24.580 Yeah, play this one if this is a new one.

00:39:26.020 This is a good one.

00:39:28.020 If it's on time from seeing Jagmeet Singh at the podium.

00:39:30.880 But Rosie, I'm curious what stood out to you.

00:39:32.460 Because at one point when some of those last questions came up, I just checked.

00:39:35.960 Yeah, no, we're in Canada.

00:39:37.860 Because these, the identity politics questions.

00:39:40.680 Asking about transgenderism is un-Canadian.

00:39:42.900 This happens on the same day that the United Kingdom court ruled that women and sex are biological women and biological sex.

00:39:51.060 True North is a very right-wing website.

00:39:55.460 They're not very right-wing.

00:39:56.260 They're not more right-wing than me.

00:39:57.500 And there have been issues in the past with who gets allowed into these scrums and who's allowed to ask questions of the leaders.

00:40:02.500 Yeah, they won in court.

00:40:03.000 The commission, the debate commission, was the one who decided that these people were allowed to come in and ask these kinds of questions.

00:40:10.240 So there you go.

00:40:11.180 These kind of questions, as in questions they don't like.

00:40:13.440 Oh my God.

00:40:14.520 You couldn't fit more pomposity per square inch, per cubic inch, in my doppelganger Rosemary Barton. 1.00

00:40:22.480 Just incredible.

00:40:23.560 Hey, you know what?

00:40:26.080 Let me just check to make sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

00:40:28.060 You know, I'm not very good at the live streams because I don't pay attention to things I'm supposed to do like, you know, read out super chats and things.

00:40:37.640 So I want to make sure I do what I'm supposed to do.

00:40:40.240 But can I tell you something that I did last week that I didn't tell you about because I was so busy, focused on the debates?

00:40:53.360 Remember button gate?

00:40:55.420 Button gate. 0.95

00:40:56.180 That's such a silly word. 0.73

00:40:58.360 Adding gate to any little kerfuffle. 1.00

00:41:00.800 It's so dumb. 0.99

00:41:02.040 But do you recall? 0.99

00:41:04.700 Actually, we may as well play the video.

00:41:05.960 It's only about five minutes, right?

00:41:06.940 I want to show you what I was up to.

00:41:11.520 Now, I was out there in Montreal and I was totally focused on defending our team, handling the debates commission, fending off the jackals.

00:41:22.060 Oh, I didn't finish that story.

00:41:23.480 When Drea Humphrey was asking her question, it was like all the demonic jackals were hissing at her and heckling her.

00:41:29.440 They were heckling her.

00:41:30.420 Other journalists were heckling Drea.

00:41:33.700 It wasn't picked up on her microphone.

00:41:35.880 It was insane.

00:41:37.060 I've never seen anything like it.

00:41:38.260 By the way, that's the exact behavior they accuse Rebel News of when, in fact, it's them.

00:41:43.180 What does it?

00:41:43.680 Alexa Lavoie for Rebel News and I'm currently in Nippian riding, the Mark Carney riding.

00:41:55.020 So, I came all the way here in Ottawa.

00:41:57.620 First of all, I wanted to take part of the press conference of Mr. Poitier this morning.

00:42:03.320 Unfortunately, we didn't get a question in.

00:42:06.280 We took the opportunity to speak with the resident about what are their thoughts on Mark Carney, the candidate.

00:42:13.880 So, you will see it was really hard to get the opinion of the people, but we managed to get some of the people who wanted to talk with us.

00:42:22.980 So, I'll let you check the full report.

00:42:25.500 President Trump, he's clear about his strategy.

00:42:29.880 His strategy is to break us so that America can own us. 0.94

00:42:35.880 You know, we are over as a country.

00:42:39.280 We are over the shock of the betrayal.

00:42:41.700 But we should never forget the lessons.

00:42:44.760 Never forget the lessons.

00:42:46.080 That's right.

00:42:47.140 We didn't ask for this fight.

00:42:49.120 We didn't ask for this fight.

00:42:50.600 But Canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves.

00:42:55.500 Elbows up.

00:42:57.080 Elbows up.

00:42:58.560 And in this trade war, just like in hockey, we will win.

00:43:06.060 Can I ask you quickly, what do you think about Mark Carney?

00:43:09.400 I think he's a socialist liberal who is very friendly with China, along with a lot of other Laurentian elites in Canada.

00:43:18.980 Just like Trudeau.

00:43:20.000 He's just another shade of Trudeau with a different face.

00:43:22.220 That's why he's the current prime minister now, right?

00:43:24.840 He's got the same policies, but just a new face that doesn't have as much negative controversy as our previous prime minister.

00:43:33.200 I love him.

00:43:34.000 Yeah?

00:43:34.300 For which reason?

00:43:35.680 He knows his financial information.

00:43:41.580 He knows how to handle the economy.

00:43:44.920 And I think he's the best to deal with Trudeau.

00:43:48.040 Or not Trudeau, Trump.

00:43:49.060 We were thinking he would be the one we would be voting for.

00:43:52.860 For which reason?

00:43:55.120 Because my wife told me.

00:43:56.760 That's a kind of good reason, I guess?

00:44:01.760 Yeah, I think so.

00:44:02.720 Yeah, I've been watching the news a little bit.

00:44:05.460 Yeah, I think he's my choice, yes.

00:44:11.160 For which reason?

00:44:12.620 Education, experience, international exposure.

00:44:17.720 Were you sad that Chandra Aria was removed from his position here to be replaced by Mark Carney?

00:44:24.700 Yeah, Mark Carney's good.

00:44:25.800 I think my opinion is my opinion is good, yeah.

00:44:28.500 More than Chandra Aria?

00:44:29.760 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:30.480 Yeah?

00:44:30.860 Not a big fan.

00:44:31.980 No?

00:44:32.320 No.

00:44:32.560 For which reason?

00:44:33.860 I just, I don't think he stands for what's good for Canada.

00:44:37.140 I think Canadians deserve better.

00:44:38.900 And I think the Liberal Party have proven themselves as ineffective over the course of the last 10 years under Trudeau.

00:44:43.240 So, I think it's time for change.

00:44:46.660 We're not sure what we think yet.

00:44:48.640 Yeah?

00:44:49.120 Yeah.

00:44:49.380 You wait for the debate?

00:44:50.760 Yes.

00:44:51.540 But so far, do you have any, maybe, concern about one of the...

00:44:56.620 No.

00:44:57.220 Let's just say it's a 50-50 chance right now.

00:44:59.420 Okay.

00:45:00.320 I'm hoping he loses.

00:45:01.900 Yeah?

00:45:02.320 Mm-hmm.

00:45:03.100 Why?

00:45:03.880 Because I'm a conservative and I don't like what Trudeau did for the past 12 years.

00:45:07.760 Mm-hmm.

00:45:08.080 I'd like to see Rob Ford run.

00:45:10.240 Rob Ford?

00:45:10.920 Yeah.

00:45:11.540 Not going to vote for him.

00:45:12.340 No?

00:45:13.240 For which reason?

00:45:14.760 Don't like him.

00:45:15.700 Don't like him?

00:45:16.420 No.

00:45:17.040 I'm not much of a voter.

00:45:18.440 Mm-hmm.

00:45:18.800 Maybe my soon, like, future-wise, I'll be voting.

00:45:21.520 I don't really have a stand on it right now.

00:45:23.440 Are you planning to vote for this year?

00:45:26.180 I haven't voted in five years, so no.

00:45:29.020 No?

00:45:29.480 No.

00:45:29.620 And what about you?

00:45:30.640 Maybe next year, or I need a little bit more detail soon, but maybe this year.

00:45:35.980 So, where we are in Canada right now, and especially in comparison to what we're seeing in the U.S.,

00:45:41.380 there's been a really high rise in far-right politics among people around our age, right?

00:45:47.280 And so, when I think of this election-type deal, and I think of Mark Carney, I think of Pierre Paliyev,

00:45:53.100 whatever, like that, I'm really nervous that we're going to get into that, like, sort of,

00:45:58.320 you know what I mean, the Trumpisms and things like that.

00:46:00.060 So, in terms of how I feel about Mark Carney, I mean, I'm not, I don't think of politicians

00:46:05.960 as celebrities or anything like that.

00:46:06.980 I don't think he's a great, perfect guy for the position, you know what I mean?

00:46:10.040 But there is sort of the loud minority that comes from groups like that, the, you know

00:46:14.540 what I mean, the Holocaust deniers, the abortion people, stuff like that, and everything like

00:46:18.840 that.

00:46:19.000 So, it's not really specific to Pierre Paliyev.

00:46:21.300 It's more specific to the party lines and what the parties can sort of pander to.

00:46:24.960 Yeah, I don't like bankers, but I like Mark.

00:46:27.860 Yeah, for...

00:46:28.860 I'm excited.

00:46:30.080 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:30.860 No, I'm really excited about Carney.

00:46:33.400 I think he's handling this situation with the tariff war with Trump extremely well.

00:46:42.260 As you say, look, I've followed all the rules.

00:46:45.240 I've followed them in advance.

00:46:46.640 I've disposed of my assets before I became prime minister.

00:46:51.920 So, and have a blind trust.

00:46:54.580 I have a conflict of interest screens.

00:46:57.560 I work only for the people of Canada.

00:47:00.020 I don't, my only assets now are cash and personal property, which means a house and

00:47:04.680 cottage.

00:47:05.480 How do you react when you heard that Mark Carney used Bahamas to put investor money of 25 billion

00:47:13.080 of dollars instead of putting here in Canada and paying tax to Canada, instead of avoiding

00:47:18.700 it by putting it in a fiscal event?

00:47:21.140 Canadian law allows investment companies to invest where they deem appropriate.

00:47:27.900 Is it it's it though?

00:47:29.160 Now, whether you want to argue whether it's ethical or morally right to do that, that's

00:47:34.840 another entirely different issue.

00:47:36.960 And I think Mark, I think it is biggest attraction as a politician is that he understands the

00:47:42.320 international monetary financial economic systems.

00:47:45.640 And there's nobody else running these days that has that kind of a background.

00:47:51.280 And I think that's what we need for the person in charge, I guess.

00:47:56.120 Did you like Justin Trudeau?

00:47:58.220 Oh, I didn't mind.

00:47:59.240 No, I didn't mind Justin.

00:48:00.480 No, I knew his father.

00:48:02.680 Oh, okay.

00:48:03.380 Well, I'm a Brookfield shareholder.

00:48:05.360 So I have to say I'm interested in profits.

00:48:08.960 Yeah.

00:48:09.900 So you don't care that they didn't pay their share to Canada to help paying for programs?

00:48:15.960 I'm not, I'm not exactly sure it works that way.

00:48:19.400 Ultimately, ultimately the people at the end pay their taxes like me.

00:48:23.320 I wasn't aware of that.

00:48:26.800 I'd have to investigate that to see if that was valid or not.

00:48:29.900 I think it's very unethical.

00:48:31.740 Yeah, I think it's, I mean, it's proven track record of mismanagement of money, even when

00:48:37.640 he was, you know, went over to the UK, mismanaged money over there in the role that he had there.

00:48:43.360 So, yeah, I think his track record is not good.

00:48:45.780 And like I said, I think Canadians deserve better.

00:48:48.540 I read about that this week.

00:48:50.100 I don't know enough to have an informed opinion.

00:48:52.540 Him moving his company to the U.S. wasn't good.

00:48:55.620 There's a lot of things that I don't like.

00:48:57.420 Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:58.180 Anybody that avoids taxes should, you know what I mean, should have issues with her. 1.00

00:49:00.780 And again, not a partisan thing.

00:49:02.660 Like that's, if you're conservative, you're avoiding taxes, it should be investigated.

00:49:05.080 If you're liberal and you're avoiding taxes, that should be investigated.

00:49:07.040 I don't care who you are.

00:49:08.360 There's no surprise.

00:49:09.540 These people, they advocate taxing the rich and giving to the poor, but they always find

00:49:16.620 a way to make themselves a lot richer when they're in government.

00:49:19.040 It's a nice coincidence, isn't it?

00:49:21.300 Well, let me turn the table and ask you.

00:49:25.900 It sounds like you're coming from a conservative perspective.

00:49:30.460 No, just asking questions.

00:49:31.700 Right, but Paul Yeh will do the same thing as well, though, right?

00:49:34.060 He doesn't have any.

00:49:35.440 He doesn't have any skeletons in his closet?

00:49:36.900 No, no.

00:49:37.280 Any money in fiscal.

00:49:39.380 No, but he also doesn't believe in body autonomy.

00:49:45.200 What do you mean?

00:49:46.340 Abortion, right? 0.99

00:49:47.300 He actually been clear recently that.

00:49:49.240 But you go back to some of those old statements.

00:49:51.780 He said, this is what I'm saying.

00:49:54.020 We don't know the truth.

00:49:55.160 Everybody has things that they did and they said.

00:49:57.160 But he doesn't need the money.

00:49:59.820 He doesn't need, you know, he could retire.

00:50:03.120 He's doing this, I feel, for the right reasons at the right time.

00:50:08.440 Did he make some mistakes?

00:50:09.720 Of course he did.

00:50:10.540 Is he going to have some challenges?

00:50:12.120 Yes, he will.

00:50:12.800 But that he chose that knowing, you look at Trudeau, he made some mistakes.

00:50:18.280 The blackface and all of those things, that resurfaced. 0.99

00:50:21.080 It doesn't mean he's racist. 1.00

00:50:22.300 It doesn't mean he's a young idiot kid. 1.00

00:50:24.540 What do you think about the fact that Mr. Carney was able to get a loan from China, 1.00

00:50:29.980 the Bank of China, for Brookfield Asset Management,

00:50:32.020 and we still don't know how much share is still hold of this company today?

00:50:38.620 I don't know.

00:50:39.200 He was saying that he was going to put everything in a blind trust.

00:50:43.640 So anything that he has that is in a blind trust, he has no control over.

00:50:50.500 Absolutely, yeah.

00:50:51.460 I think there's definitely influence there.

00:50:53.060 I think there's numerous things that he's done over the course of his career

00:50:56.360 that are politically motivated.

00:50:58.200 So, yeah, I think there's major concerns with him in power.

00:51:01.700 Yeah, no, that doesn't mean anything to me.

00:51:03.700 No?

00:51:04.200 There's been a lot of things with him that I don't like, for sure.

00:51:06.720 So where we stand right now in Canada, China has a lot of interference among everyone.

00:51:14.900 It was, it's very apparent that the, sorry, not apparent,

00:51:18.840 it's evident that China colluded to make Pierre Palliev the leader of the Conservative Party,

00:51:25.000 or at least they helped in that.

00:51:26.500 It's also very apparent that China has been caught garnering favor for Mark Carney in the States

00:51:31.900 based on, you know what I mean, social media campaigns, things like that.

00:51:35.280 The fact that Mark Carney has done some business with China, sure, can be a bit concerning, I agree.

00:51:41.160 That being said, we are still part of a global economy,

00:51:45.060 and we still need to participate with, you know what I mean, all countries,

00:51:48.720 America included, even with the craziness that's coming on right now.

00:51:51.180 Do you think it's a bright idea to hone money from a dictatorship country?

00:51:56.860 Oh, well, I think we probably owe money to the States,

00:52:00.840 and they're pretty close to a dictatorship for us now.

00:52:04.060 Well, the answer is that the American influence is a hundred times greater than China.

00:52:09.560 Any influence, China would ever have. 0.57

00:52:10.440 Yes, China's influence is essentially with respect to Canadians who have roots in China

00:52:18.020 or are associated with China, and that seems to be people that they seem to be talking to,

00:52:24.740 but India does the same thing.

00:52:26.800 It's a little bit, it's a side issue.

00:52:28.940 I don't see it as a major issue.

00:52:31.080 As far as Brookfield is concerned, they...

00:52:32.900 Unless the media make it a major issue.

00:52:34.920 And Brookfield, it's a large investment company,

00:52:38.860 and it looks for its best return that it can get for its assets that people give it to invest.

00:52:45.660 So it doesn't bother me too much.

00:52:48.360 I don't think you're going to find anyone that hasn't done anything that maybe,

00:52:55.620 you know, that has crossed some lines as far as one way or another.

00:53:01.000 I'm sure Polyev has some closets in the skeleton.

00:53:03.600 Do you think that Mark Carney should just be clean in front of Ken Eden

00:53:08.580 about the relationship maybe he has with Giseline Maxwell,

00:53:12.500 that she's the accomplice of Jeffrey Epstein?

00:53:14.960 We still don't know yet what is happening around that.

00:53:18.800 No, we don't, and we can't really make a decision until we know what's happening around that.

00:53:22.740 Do you think he should disclose it?

00:53:25.200 Yes, I think so.

00:53:26.460 You know, it is a hot topic.

00:53:28.600 That's hard to say.

00:53:29.720 Who knows if they were just there casually.

00:53:31.360 You could have had no idea, so I don't really have an opinion on that.

00:53:35.240 But if he disclosed, everybody would know then.

00:53:37.840 Yeah.

00:53:38.400 Were they friends?

00:53:39.260 I don't know.

00:53:40.040 A hundred percent.

00:53:40.840 A hundred percent.

00:53:41.600 If you want to run this country, you've got to disclose everything.

00:53:44.480 Now, whether Mark Carney got that deep into it, if he has compromise on him,

00:53:47.840 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but we don't have any evidence, right?

00:53:50.680 But I don't put it past these kind of folks to do all kinds of some creepy stuff.

00:53:56.240 Mr. Carney, Rene Brumer, Montreal Gazette.

00:53:58.460 Last night on Tout le monde en parle, you mentioned that for Justin Trudeau,

00:54:03.100 the economy wasn't a main priority.

00:54:06.020 Could you elaborate on what you meant by that and how you plan to differ?

00:54:09.440 Mr. Carney, of course, I'm speaking in relative terms, but I stand by what I said.

00:54:18.120 I'll give you a few examples.

00:54:20.940 You know, over the course of the last 10 years, the pace of government spending,

00:54:25.480 particularly operational expenditures, rose by an average of 9% a year.

00:54:30.020 9% year after year after year.

00:54:31.440 That's about twice the rate of growth of the economy.

00:54:34.720 The level of government support for industry and business investment and housing and other factors

00:54:43.760 will be considerable.

00:54:45.160 You'll see when we release our detailed platform,

00:54:47.960 that level of support is much lower than the level of support that we are going to give it.

00:54:52.840 We have a faith that Mark Carney with the same cabinet, almost the same cabinet behind him,

00:54:57.780 can actually do something because the cabinet with Trudeau were kind of responsible of what we are seeing today.

00:55:03.980 Well, yeah, and I'm not going to say that it's been perfect under the Trudeau government,

00:55:10.380 but, you know, the pandemic had a lot to do with it.

00:55:16.420 And also, I think a change of leadership, I have no issue with Trudeau.

00:55:22.000 He did the best he could.

00:55:22.900 He made some mistakes, but we all do.

00:55:24.240 I think a change in leadership, even though it's the same team,

00:55:31.080 sometimes, like, you know, like in hockey, they say they lost the room, right?

00:55:35.520 It's the same team.

00:55:36.880 Look, I'm going to use the sentence, for example.

00:55:38.940 Almost the same team, they bring a new coach,

00:55:41.440 they're making the playoffs for the first time in, you know, since 2017.

00:55:45.700 Well, I think as long as we got this Liberal Party,

00:55:48.100 and if they win, why are they going to feel any pressure to change?

00:55:51.340 They won't.

00:55:51.880 They're going to be exactly the same as they've always been.

00:55:54.900 Look, we had massive immigration for how many years?

00:55:57.840 They finally, finally started to do a little bit about it because it was just super negative.

00:56:03.040 Like, the whole population, I see leftists on Reddit, because I go on Reddit,

00:56:07.500 I see leftists saying they're complaining about the immigration.

00:56:10.160 And, you know, a few years ago, they were the staunch defenders of it.

00:56:13.220 So when your own base is turning against you on something,

00:56:16.000 of course, they're going to back up on it.

00:56:17.720 But I would expect more of the same from this party, honestly.

00:56:21.820 To see the polls right now, do you have any concern that it might deliver?

00:56:26.080 No, I'm not worried about the polls.

00:56:28.000 It's all run by CBC anyway, so.

00:56:30.520 Look at it in the States.

00:56:31.780 Showed Kamala Harris was winning and Trump won by a landslide, so I'm not worried.

00:56:36.560 I think Pierre is going to get in, so hopefully.

00:56:39.000 After knowing all this, you will still vote for Mark Carney?

00:56:43.420 That's where we're leaning right now.

00:56:45.380 Mm-hmm.

00:56:45.860 Yeah.

00:56:46.280 Do you have any concern that you might win a huge majority?

00:56:50.980 I'm more optimistic and I'm more hopeful that, you know,

00:56:55.100 I think that Canadians will hopefully...

00:57:00.340 What do you think, buddy?

00:57:01.580 Yes.

00:57:01.960 Yeah, yeah, I think Canadians will hopefully have a better sense in this election.

00:57:07.920 So I think common sense will prevail.

00:57:10.480 I want to see the debate.

00:57:11.880 I want to see what all parties have to say.

00:57:14.480 And, well, facial expressions read a lot.

00:57:17.500 I know you can mask it, but I definitely want to hear what they have to say first.

00:57:21.680 Sorry, if they're causing an issue, I'm happy to go on.

00:57:24.080 Do you guys have permission to be on this property?

00:57:26.620 It's a...

00:57:27.360 It's private property.

00:57:28.740 It's owned by Canadian Tire.

00:57:29.960 It's a...

00:57:31.180 And this is my property that I pay for.

00:57:33.960 Okay, and...

00:57:35.460 I'm asking why you guys are here.

00:57:37.540 Well, we are doing journalism.

00:57:39.040 We are asking the opinion of the people as other journalists.

00:57:42.380 Okay, but do you have permission to be here?

00:57:45.120 Usually you don't need permission to be...

00:57:47.200 You do on private property.

00:57:49.280 You can remove that from me, please.

00:57:51.440 Don't touch my microphone, please.

00:57:52.840 You can remove it.

00:57:53.740 I don't know why you're so aggressive.

00:57:55.520 Because these are my customers.

00:57:56.880 They're trying to eat.

00:57:57.660 For me, personally, going the other side is a little terrifying for me.

00:58:05.640 Why?

00:58:07.820 We are talking about the...

00:58:09.000 Yeah, Paulie Hebb.

00:58:09.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:11.300 Again, it's...

00:58:11.880 I'm concerned with the negativity that has crossed the border.

00:58:20.420 And I'm not saying he's a Canadian Trump, but even his slogan, you know, Canada First.

00:58:27.940 It's just...

00:58:28.560 I feel he's borrowing from that.

00:58:30.780 And I feel that a lot of people are following that.

00:58:35.680 And not necessarily a left or right, but that sort of divisiveness.

00:58:39.700 And, you know, I'm just...

00:58:45.260 I'm a liberalist in the ways of thinking.

00:58:51.640 And I find that this, you know, the language in Canada has changed the negativity towards the WTQ community.

00:59:01.580 And it wasn't...

00:59:04.340 I'm an old guy, and it wasn't always like that.

00:59:07.760 How do you reconcile keeping Bill C-69 with your plans to build infrastructure in Canada?

00:59:13.860 Do you plan to repeal Bill C-69?

00:59:16.740 We do not plan to repeal Bill C-69, to answer your question directly.

00:59:21.720 Do you have any concern, maybe, like, to see that Mark Carney say, we will build new energy projects, but it's still key, Bill C-69, that is the normal pipeline bill.

00:59:35.440 Yeah, I don't agree with that.

00:59:36.700 I think that there should be.

00:59:38.000 We should be tapping into our own resources instead of importing it from other countries.

00:59:43.080 Canada has so many resources, like Alberta and Saskatchewan has so much oil and gas.

00:59:47.420 We should be using that instead of importing it from Saudi or wherever the hell he gets it from, so... 0.73

00:59:53.260 I do not want to hear what leftists have to say about green energy or infrastructure.

00:59:59.980 If they're afraid of nuclear power, which is probably the most efficient green energy available, if they don't want to do that, then they're not serious.

01:00:07.340 It's probably connected to kickbacks they get when they fund green programs, that their buddies are the owners of these companies,

01:00:14.700 and they all kind of cash out with each other when we funnel money into windmills and such,

01:00:19.160 which just take as much plastic and create as much pollution as anything else, right?

01:00:23.880 But yeah, if they were true environmentalists, they'd be advocating for nuclear, but I don't hear that from them.

01:00:31.920 So the mainstream media, as you know, are so agreeable with Mark Carney,

01:00:37.160 but us at Ruben News, we will show you the truth about Carney's record.

01:00:43.420 So go over thecarniefiles.com if you want to get informed about who is really Mark Carney.

01:00:49.440 So I invite you to go over thecarniefiles.com and chip in if you want to support our journalism.

01:00:56.200 And thanks in advance.

01:00:58.300 That's our show for today.

01:00:59.940 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

01:01:03.840 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - April 21, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Media Party still melting down after Rebels flip the script at Leaders’ Debate

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