EZRA LEVANT ｜ Media Party still melting down after Rebels flip the script at Leaders’ Debate
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Summary
The reverberations of the leaders debate keep on vibrating, including a video I took of my encounter with the CBC. Plus, a lawsuit I filed against the Liberal Party of Canada, and a new conspiracy theory about Trump buttons.
Transcript
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Hello, my friends. The reverberations of the leaders debate last year keep on vibrating.
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We're going to talk about a couple of crazy incidents, including a video I took of my encounter with the CBC.
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But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.
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It's eight bucks a month, which might not sound like a lot of money to you, but boy, it adds up for us.
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Tonight, more echoing vibrations from the leaders debate last week.
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It's April 21st, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Hi, everybody. There's a few videos I want to show you today that I just recorded today.
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I actually forgot my jacket in Montreal, and they're sending it back here, but I'll have to get another jacket for the show.
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But I really love wearing this Rebel hoodie, and I don't talk a lot about our merch, but we do have a store, rebelnewsstore.com, and I love wearing this out and about.
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People come over and chat with me, even in foreign countries.
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I was in the United Kingdom, and a cabbie asked me about Rebel News and talked to me about Tommy Robinson.
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So it's a great way to sort of show your identity.
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And for people who don't know Rebel News, it sort of – it stays anonymous.
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They just think, oh, that's some hip brand or something.
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The reason I'm talking about our merch is because you might know that in 2016, when I first heard the word Make America Great Again, I thought that's a pretty cool word, pretty cool phrase.
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We hadn't decayed under a decade of Justin Trudeau yet.
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And so I filled up the paperwork to apply for a trademark of Make Canada Great Again.
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I just thought I'd probably use that one day for something.
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And indeed, in 2019, I got the trademark, and we sell some merch at our store for Rebel News.
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I mean, we use Make Canada Great Again as one of like 100 things we sell.
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And we recently signed a licensing deal with a company that loved it so much and said, hey, we'll give you a portion of every hat we sell.
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I tell you that to let you know that we actually do work the term Make Canada Great Again.
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And I know not everybody likes that, but some people love it.
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Which brings me to a lawsuit that I filed last week.
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Here, watch this video, which we rolled out earlier today.
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I'm outside the CBC headquarters in Montreal, my stomping grounds.
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And if I weren't here because of the leaders' debate, they would probably escort me off the property.
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But while we wait to go back in, they're just having the police dogs sniff around for any danger.
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I want to tell you about something I did today that's got nothing to do with this debate.
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Guys, I sued the Liberal Party of Canada today.
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You can find the lawsuit at a special website I set up called lawbreakers.ca.
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Because I allege in that lawsuit, and it's only 10 pages long.
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I allege that the Liberal Party broke the law and violated my rights.
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I don't know if you saw about a week ago, there was something called Buttongate.
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Turns out some liberal dirty tricksters from the war room went to a conservative conference
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and brought a bunch of sort of Trump paraphernalia and sort of pretended that it was conservative.
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What they were trying to do was make Pierre Polyev look like a little mini MAGA guy, like a mini Trump.
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So they had all these pins and Trump stuff, and one of them were pins that said, little buttons, that said, make Canada great again.
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And the idea was that, look at that, ha, ha, ha, Pierre Polyev is just like Trump.
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But it wasn't any conservatives, and it certainly wasn't the Conservative Party.
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It was dirty tricksters from the liberal war room.
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And I don't know if you remember, but Mark Carney was asked about this, and he pretty much confessed.
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But instead of firing these unethical folks, he just reassigned them.
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Members of the liberal war room, so the central campaign, distributed stop the steal buttons at a conservative event.
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Given the anti-democratic implications of this phrase, how much does this event undermine the trust in the way that the liberals operate?
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And what have you done in response to these revelations?
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Look, this is totally unacceptable, to be absolutely clear.
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And I, on behalf of my campaign, I was unaware of this behavior, but on behalf of my campaign, I apologize for it unreservedly.
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I've made it absolutely clear to my campaign that this behavior or anything approximating it or in that spirit is unacceptable, cannot happen, cannot happen again.
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Well, here's what they didn't think about when they did their dirty trick.
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Number one, I know from experience, if you publish campaign material and do not register with Elections Canada and have written on your stuff authorized by the Liberal Party, you're violating election law.
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It may not sound fair, but believe me, I went through it when I published my book, The Libranos.
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And so I know, if you're campaigning in an election, you've got to put authorized by so-and-so.
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But there's one more thing the liberals did wrong.
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So, make Canada great again, I don't know if you know that, but a few years ago, I trademarked that phrase.
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I had no idea that it would become a thing in the debate, but I, you can look it up, I registered the trademark to make Canada great again.
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And the Liberal Dirty Tricksters stole that from me.
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Now, the thing is, Mark Carney could have taken responsibility and said this is wrong and fired them, but he didn't.
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Like it or not, I own Make Canada Great Again in Canada.
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They deliberately tried to confuse people to make it look like it was Pierre Paulyevre or even me.
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So, I am suing them for violation of the trademark.
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And in the lawsuit, it's a very quick read, it's only 10 pages, for violating election law and trademark law.
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Those are all very relevant things when it comes to getting damages from them for stealing my trademark, but also for violating election laws.
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And all of that will be discoverable in this lawsuit.
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When the prime minister of the country, who's prime minister now and running to be reelected for the prime minister, waves and blinks and laughs at lawbreaking, we're in deep trouble.
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Now, Elections Canada would never do anything about this on their own.
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I'm a Canadian and I've just filed the lawsuit.
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Go to lawbreakers.ca to check out the lawsuit yourself.
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And if you want to help me find out who the dirty tricksters are behind here and get a little justice, because no one else is going to, go to lawbreakers.ca and chip in a few dollars to help me cover the legal bills.
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God knows these regime media journalists won't.
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I think it's, it feels like destiny or something or certainly chance that they stole property from me for their campaign dirty trick.
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Like of all the people, don't they know I'm going to assert my rights?
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I mean, I think if anyone else had the rights to some of those buttons, they would say, oh, what can you do?
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Well, I know some lawyers and I know a little bit about my rights and I actually do value that trademark.
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So we're going to see the Liberal Party of Canada.
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Not only them, but we're going to find out who John Doe number one and John Doe number two are.
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And this one, I want you to be very honest with me.
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I want you to watch it and then send me your messages.
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This is my encounter with David Cochran, the CBC journalist who spent basically all day last week smearing Rebel News, trying to get us kicked out of the debates commission.
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I went to him during a commercial break and I said, hey, you're bashing me on air.
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After that, he told everyone who would listen that I busted up his show.
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I'm going to publish the video of our interaction.
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Hey, there was a weird moment at the leaders' debates in Montreal last week where the CBC sort of stopped reporting on the news about the election and instead turned into a lobby group trying to get the debates commission to ban Rebel News from being accredited.
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Even though two courts had said it was an illegal infringement on our freedom of the press to keep us out.
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Nonetheless, the CBC, and in particular, their host, David Cochran, who I'd actually never spoken to before, they were just obsessed with getting us kicked out.
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Now, I watched some of David Cochran's reports, including him making the allegation that Rebel News was somehow doing illegal things with our beautiful billboard truck.
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Cochran actually told that lie to the debates commissioner himself as part of his vendetta at Rebel News.
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Okay, so I know the past precedents, but this is a filing with Elections Canada from this election where Rebel News has filed as a third-party advertising group.
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They are raising money in their own documents for partisan political activities.
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That's not what a journalistic organization does, right?
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So I appreciate that you've lost in the past, but if they are raising money to run ads to influence the outcome of an election, surely a judge would look at that and say, this isn't a journalistic organization.
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They have this truck going around with a video wall promoting conspiracy theories and allegations, mostly against Mark Carney, let's face it.
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You know, that is one of the few things we can show on TV that appears on the side of that.
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I mean, this looks like evidence in a court battle.
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We showed them in the last lawsuit doing a political advocacy, and they did not convince the judge.
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So for us, this argument was not going to be more effective this time.
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They also complained that we had a third-party campaign group, just like the CBC has, just like most journalists do with their union uniform.
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Anyways, Cochran was factually inaccurate there.
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Those ads on the billboard truck are clearly marked.
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The CBC was accusing us of doing something contrary to the Elections Act.
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This was on top of a full day's defamation of us.
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So I waited until Cochran was clearly in a break, and I politely approached him on his set to ask him if I could come on a show, even for a few minutes, to try to set the record straight.
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It's weird that he was spending so much time slandering us without even asking us for our side of the story.
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So I waited until it was really clear that he wasn't on TV, because I saw other guests standing up and leaving the set, and a producer in a bright red shirt standing up to do things on the set, obviously blocking the camera shot.
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So I knew that they weren't on the air, and I went over to ask for a right of reply, and I was refused.
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They never did let me or any other rebels on to correct their lies.
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After I asked for a rebuttal, they ran to Michel Cormier, that's that debate commissioner, and they told him that I had come onto their set and into their set, that's what they said, and that I wouldn't leave, that's what they said, and that I interrupted a live broadcast, that's what they said.
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Now, obviously, Cormier had told the CBC that based on that complaint, he would indeed kick me out.
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Because Cochran reported on TV that I had been kicked out.
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To my left, there's the room there where the media is gathered.
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This is where the scrums are happening with the leaders.
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There was some sort of an altercation inside there in the last little while involving Ezra Levant, who is the head of Rebel News and other journalists.
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Because I showed Cormier a video of the whole incident, and he immediately realized that the CBC had lied to him about us and what I had done.
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Believe me, Michel Cormier does not like me and Rebel News, and he would have loved to have kicked me out.
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And frankly, if I really did crash the CBC's live broadcast, they probably should have kicked me out.
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Cochran was still raging about us, and here's what he wrote on Twitter.
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We were playing a 60-second report when Ezra accosted me.
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So the control room in Ottawa kept playing tape to prevent the incident from carried live on air.
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The debate commission wouldn't take action because we were in commercial.
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We had to scramble to cover the incident by placing tape until it was over.
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No proper professional interrupt the broadcast or work of another professional journalist.
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We were inside an RCMP-swept security perimeter today for our job, and the Montreal police had to be called,
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and we had to sneak out of the building we owned with the help of security to get home safely.
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If it was true, you'd think the CBC would release video of it.
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I mean, after all, they literally caught it all on camera.
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Is it really true that they had to scramble, or is it in fact true that they were on a break,
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and their own producer was leisurely puttering around the set,
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doing things I don't know exactly what he was doing before I arrived, while I was there, and after I left?
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Did they really scramble, given that our entire chat was about a minute?
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And did they really have to sneak out at night because of their safety?
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Observe that when I arrived, a producer was standing in the shot.
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Observe how I asked if I could somehow reply to their day-long attacks on me, and I was told no.
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And if you can find any police in the video, let me know.
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So you can see, I arrive, and there's a CBC guest.
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And you can see someone in a red shirt or sweater puttering with Rosemary Barton's earpiece or something.
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So you could see that that first guest who was just leaving the CBC panel, he was in the shot where I am now.
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You can see there's a producer in red who's puttering around in the shot.
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And I introduced myself immediately and said why I was there.
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I don't interrupt your broadcast, but I should not interrupt mine.
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Do you see the guy in the red sweater with the hat on, puttering with Rosemary Barton's equipment?
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Maybe they were about to be, but not in any way that that guy in the red vest took seriously.
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You'll see that he was there before I arrived, while I was there, and after I was gone.
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You have to say, me, I'm going to get a call by.
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I'm going to ask you, please respect our broadcast.
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Okay, can I come back a moment and rebuttal me?
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I mean, she lied about us in other ways, but I really went because David Cochran had this
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Rosemary Barton stood up, instead of doing whatever she was going to do, and squared up
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with me and called security to have me thrown out.
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I mean, in fact, you can see I stepped down and start to leave.
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I'm only a few seconds away from leaving, but these people were not on air.
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The fella in the red sweater kept doing what he was doing, but Rosemary Barton was quite
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aggressive, or at least tried to get the security to be aggressive.
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Well, David, I'd like to come back on and rebut some of your errors about revolution.
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The guy in the red sweater is still there doing, I'm not sure what he was doing, but
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And I've stepped away because, frankly, I don't want to, you know, put the security in
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They were commanded by Rosemary Barton to shoo me away.
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But I'm still asking, is there anyone I can talk to?
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I mean, they had talked about us all day and said some very particular false facts about
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And I waited until there was a moment to talk to them.
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I mean, normally you reach out to someone you're going to attack in journalism just to
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I positively said, hey, is there anyone I can talk to?
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Rosemary Barton really felt like chiming in for some reason.
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I think she's got a bit of a, she hates rebel news, but I made a gentle crack about the
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I had challenged her, the two of us to have a public fitness contest.
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Rosemary Barton literally pivoted in her seat, spun around because she still wanted to argue
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These are people who were still puttering in some break.
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To let you know just how unprofessional they are in terms of getting the other side of the
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All day they had been attacking and smearing and lying about rebel news, but they never
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once reached out to us to check a fact or invite us on for some right of reply.
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So I calmly waited until I could see they were not on air to ask for that opportunity.
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You'd think at that point they would say, send an email or here's a phone number or we'll
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They basically said, ha, no, we will never platform you.
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David Cochran and Rosemary Barton, they're liars.
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I don't know if you saw, but in her case, they actually were forced to issue a grudging
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correction, even though that correction wasn't man enough to say sorry to Drea, or in fact,
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to say who their correction was about, who they smeared at all.
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They were not acting as journalists at the debate.
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They were Mark Carney's personal smear machine.
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They were trying to get us kicked out of there.
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David Cochran lied on the air, and then he lied in his tweets, and then he lied to the
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The petition is that they should stop treating the CBC as a personal vengeance machine.
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I know they don't like Rebel News, and I know they hate me and hate Drea Humphrey and
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But if they're going to be journalists, they should invite people on when they attack them,
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and they shouldn't be so afraid to have the other side of the story on their show.
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Were they in the wrong by not asking us for our side of the story?
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Hey, while I'm asking for your feedback, let me read to you some of the comments that
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folks are making under the video on the paywall site.
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So these are Rebel News Plus comments, and there were so many nice comments in the last
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Bernhard Jatsek says, after seeing a number of videos of the reactions to what happened
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with the post-debate media scrum yesterday, one can safely conclude that the days of gentlemanly
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reporting, typified by the work of people like Norman DePoe and Charles Lynch, are a thing
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The vitriol and language used to describe Rebel News, and Ezra Llan in particular, would never
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Then again, journalists were allowed free and independent thought back then.
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But the way they went after Drea Humphrey was shocking.
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And the way that the Quebec, Quebecois media went after Alexa Lavoie, I tell you how those
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young women stood up to this, it was amazing to see their resilience.
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Once again, you exposed the regime media for what it is, smug, arrogant, and condescending.
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As someone explained that attitude to me, if liars' pants really did catch on fire, the
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Yeah, I mean, they did all the things they accuse us of doing.
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That's what they accused us of doing, but we're not that way.
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Bernard Jacek actually has a second comment and says, did any of them actually see how
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that nut bar reporter for The Hill verbally attacked Kian Bextie and then Ezra Levant?
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No doubt the presidents of Juno and Rebel were considered unprovoked acts of violence.
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By the looks of things, the leftist media finally has their January 6th type of incident that
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I said they trumped it up into, oh my God, we had to, if you listen to the CBC, they said,
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well, we need a police and we needed an escort to get out of there and I was violated.
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I mean, I think they've been radicalized or something's wrong with them.
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Susan Gerbis says, that CBC review for Mark's comment, Rebel News was to blame for everything.
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Please vote conservative so Pierre can abolish this leeching organization.
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You know, it's a terrible idea to have the government run debates because all those decisions
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The government should not decide who can and can't attend.
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And it's the fact that they tried that gives us the charter right to go to court.
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Perversely, paradoxically, ironically, whatever you want to say, the fact that Justin Trudeau
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nationalized debates is precisely how we get in because it makes it something subject to
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David Neal says, make this episode free and spread it out there.
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These are comments that you can make right under our video.
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I'm not going to read it all, but I'll encourage you to find it on our site.
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And I'll close with Nicola Timmerman, who says, our household just resubscribed to Rebel
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News after the incredible smearing of Rebel going on by the media.
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I believe Ezra said commissioner asked to speak to him about the English debate and he
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offered to let him ask one question and Ezra agreed.
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So why cancel the scrum and why no journalist present?
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What Ezra said, not making a fuss about getting more questions and Menzies getting attacked
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I love the idea of just having one question instead of a question and a supplementary
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That would have a lot more questions go through.
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Second of all, I think it's a good idea to limit a question to 30 seconds or more, probably
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But the whole point wasn't to make it a better debate or a better scrum.
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Their point was to shut down Rebel News any way they could.
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And in the end, the only way that they could was to nuke the whole thing.
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He wouldn't answer the question by the only black woman in the room, Drea Humphrey.
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He looked down his nose at her and it was sort of a gross moment where he mansplained
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to her that she wouldn't, she's not allowed to ask questions.
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But let's be honest, Jagmeet Singh is sort of dumb.
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And I think by saying I'm not going to talk to Rebel News, that lets him avoid answering
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When I say he's sort of dumb, he just sort of is.
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Is there a single policy out there that you can say Jagmeet Singh really knows his stuff?
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There was an interesting little statistic that the debate showed of how many minutes of talk
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And to their credit, I thought the debate itself was quite well run, by the way, both the English
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The French debate, they tallied up how many minutes and seconds each candidate got.
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And Jagmeet Singh was way down low because the guy is not built for debating.
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He's not really built for ideas or answering tough questions.
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So I think one of Jagmeet Singh's strategies for avoiding embarrassment is to say, oh, I
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don't like that journalist, so I'm not going to answer that completely legit question.
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Anyway, I want to show one of the videos that one of the questions to Jagmeet Singh, I say
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And she asked a question about the anti-Christian crime wave in Canada.
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I talk a fair bit about the anti-Semitic crime wave in Canada.
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The torching of synagogues, smashing glass, shooting up a girls' school.
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Like there's this very serious crime wave against Jewish institutions.
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But there's also one against Christian institutions.
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But over 200 Christian churches have been vandalized or even burnt.
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You might recall a few weeks ago I went up to Winnipeg to film a church that had been
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So Drea Humphrey, who is herself Christian, and by the way, black and indigenous, asked
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And I want to show the question, but Efron, I also want to show Rosemary Barton's response
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So here's Drea's question, which was an excellent question.
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Your party takes great pride in standing against hate such as white supremacy, Islamophobia,
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You know where I'm going to go with this, though, right?
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I'm just going to say you know where I'm going to go with it, though.
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Your party takes pride in standing against hate such as white supremacy, Islamophobia,
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Yet you stay silent about ongoing attacks against Christians, even after Conservative MP
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Jamil Javani's order paper question revealed that over 200 churches have been targeted by
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arson and vandalism since claims of remains being discovered at former residential schools
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These claims have been disproven by bans that excavated and remain unproven by those that
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Will you condemn the rise in acts of hate against Christians today and explain what
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your party will do moving forward to keep Christians safe from hate in Canada?
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Again, thank you, but I'm not going to respond to an organization that promotes misinformation
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and disinformation like Rebel News, so no, I'm not going to respond to your question.
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So he called that misinformation and disinformation.
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And so did Rosemary Barton, my doppelganger at CBC.
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Do you have that clip of Rosemary Barton just raging against Drea?
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Drea has been on this, she actually went to Kamloops to look into the allegation of mass graves.
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She actually bumped into the chief and talked to the chief.
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Take a look at Rosemary Barton describing Drea's question as factually false.
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I think we have to sort of address the elephant in the room.
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How are these people chosen to answer these questions?
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And I don't know if either one of you have an answer for that, but I think there will be people
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at home saying, some of these seem like odd questions, some of them aren't getting answered.
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How come we've heard so often from this one particular outlet?
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There's three right-wing, very right-wing media, we can call them media, websites that are present
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They get in line to ask a question like anybody else.
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Their accreditation has been approved by the Commission of Debates.
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And so they get the right to stand in line and ask a question that they choose to ask.
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In this case, you saw Mr. Singh, and this has been his position for some time, to refuse
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Rebel News in particular, traffics in misinformation, facts, lack of facts, and as you heard in that
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question, which was woven with some truth and some things that weren't true.
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Yes, there have been burnings of Christian Catholic churches.
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Yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places around the
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Well, in fact, Mr. Poliev did get questions from Rebel News.
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There's two questions asked by Sheila Gunn-Reed, and they were great questions.
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There's some sort of weird implication there that we don't ask tough questions of Pierre
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But let me bring your attention to something that I just discovered today, which is a correction.
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They said, on April 16th, during a live broadcast following the French-language federal election
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leaders' debate on CBC News Network, Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton said,
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quote, yes, there have been remains of Indigenous children found in various places across the country.
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As CBC News has reported on multiple occasions, what several Indigenous communities across Canada
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have discovered on the sites of some former residential schools are potential burial sites
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So there have been no unmarked graves that have been found.
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Because none of this, I mean, the accusation has been made by airheads like Jagmeet Singh and Rosemary Barton.
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Like, did you know it was a lie and you said it on purpose?
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You're the chief political correspondent for the state broadcaster,
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and you don't know your basic facts about an incredibly large issue.
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But imagine the chutzpah to call Drea the misinformation peddler.
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In a fact check, you position yourself as a fact checker.
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The CBC did more fact-checking of rebel news at the debates than they did of Mark Carney,
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He said, far from cutting the CBC, as Pierre Polly was promised to do,
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Much more importantly, they lied about the truth.
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And they don't, you know what, we get things wrong once in a while.
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We occasionally publish corrections, and even occasionally we publish apologies,
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as in we didn't just get it wrong in a neutral way.
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It doesn't happen often, because we take getting our facts accurately very seriously.
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But every once in a while we have an apology, a retraction, a correction, whatever.
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You'll notice that so-called correction did not say who they were smearing.
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They couldn't bring themselves to say it was Drea and Rebel News who got it right.
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They buried this on a page of the CBC that no one ever goes to.
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Because they prefer the lies because it suits their agenda.
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And I got to tell you, it was such a team feeling.
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And what you couldn't see in that Drea Humphrey clip, and I mentioned this that night.
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I don't know if you saw my live stream comments.
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One thing Rosemary Barton said accurately is there's a ton of other journalists in the room.
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A hundred, a hundred and fifty, somewhere between a hundred and a hundred and fifty.
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So we just got in line and four out of the five of us had questions.
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I actually was the only guy on our team that didn't move fast enough to get in line.
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And we just moved a little bit faster than the other guys.
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Um, you know, how about work a little harder if you want to beat Rebel News?
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They're so lazy because they've never really had true competition before.
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I don't know if you remember that clip, uh, where, where it was David Cochran, the bald guy.
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And then there was a, a commentator on the other side, Adrian Arsenault, who said, some
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viewers at home might find these questions to be odd.
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She was objecting to the substance of our questions.
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As if the C, and, and there was an extended conversation to that effect.
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And they were basically saying, how dare you ask things that we don't approve of?
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That didn't irk anybody because they were the right kind of questions, weren't they?
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Um, yeah, they call, is that a new clip you've got there?
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If it's on time from seeing Jagmeet Singh at the podium.
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Because at one point when some of those last questions came up, I just checked.
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Because these, the identity politics questions.
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This happens on the same day that the United Kingdom court ruled that women and sex are biological women and biological sex.
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And there have been issues in the past with who gets allowed into these scrums and who's allowed to ask questions of the leaders.
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The commission, the debate commission, was the one who decided that these people were allowed to come in and ask these kinds of questions.
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These kind of questions, as in questions they don't like.
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You couldn't fit more pomposity per square inch, per cubic inch, in my doppelganger Rosemary Barton.
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Let me just check to make sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.
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You know, I'm not very good at the live streams because I don't pay attention to things I'm supposed to do like, you know, read out super chats and things.
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So I want to make sure I do what I'm supposed to do.
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But can I tell you something that I did last week that I didn't tell you about because I was so busy, focused on the debates?
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Now, I was out there in Montreal and I was totally focused on defending our team, handling the debates commission, fending off the jackals.
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When Drea Humphrey was asking her question, it was like all the demonic jackals were hissing at her and heckling her.
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By the way, that's the exact behavior they accuse Rebel News of when, in fact, it's them.
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Alexa Lavoie for Rebel News and I'm currently in Nippian riding, the Mark Carney riding.
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First of all, I wanted to take part of the press conference of Mr. Poitier this morning.
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We took the opportunity to speak with the resident about what are their thoughts on Mark Carney, the candidate.
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So, you will see it was really hard to get the opinion of the people, but we managed to get some of the people who wanted to talk with us.
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President Trump, he's clear about his strategy.
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His strategy is to break us so that America can own us.
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But Canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves.
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And in this trade war, just like in hockey, we will win.
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Can I ask you quickly, what do you think about Mark Carney?
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I think he's a socialist liberal who is very friendly with China, along with a lot of other Laurentian elites in Canada.
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He's just another shade of Trudeau with a different face.
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That's why he's the current prime minister now, right?
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He's got the same policies, but just a new face that doesn't have as much negative controversy as our previous prime minister.
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And I think he's the best to deal with Trudeau.
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We were thinking he would be the one we would be voting for.
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Yeah, I've been watching the news a little bit.
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Were you sad that Chandra Aria was removed from his position here to be replaced by Mark Carney?
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I think my opinion is my opinion is good, yeah.
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I just, I don't think he stands for what's good for Canada.
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And I think the Liberal Party have proven themselves as ineffective over the course of the last 10 years under Trudeau.
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But so far, do you have any, maybe, concern about one of the...
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Because I'm a conservative and I don't like what Trudeau did for the past 12 years.
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Maybe my soon, like, future-wise, I'll be voting.
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Maybe next year, or I need a little bit more detail soon, but maybe this year.
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So, where we are in Canada right now, and especially in comparison to what we're seeing in the U.S.,
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there's been a really high rise in far-right politics among people around our age, right?
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And so, when I think of this election-type deal, and I think of Mark Carney, I think of Pierre Paliyev,
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whatever, like that, I'm really nervous that we're going to get into that, like, sort of,
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you know what I mean, the Trumpisms and things like that.
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So, in terms of how I feel about Mark Carney, I mean, I'm not, I don't think of politicians
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I don't think he's a great, perfect guy for the position, you know what I mean?
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But there is sort of the loud minority that comes from groups like that, the, you know
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what I mean, the Holocaust deniers, the abortion people, stuff like that, and everything like
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So, it's not really specific to Pierre Paliyev.
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It's more specific to the party lines and what the parties can sort of pander to.
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I think he's handling this situation with the tariff war with Trump extremely well.
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I've disposed of my assets before I became prime minister.
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I don't, my only assets now are cash and personal property, which means a house and
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How do you react when you heard that Mark Carney used Bahamas to put investor money of 25 billion
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of dollars instead of putting here in Canada and paying tax to Canada, instead of avoiding
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Canadian law allows investment companies to invest where they deem appropriate.
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Now, whether you want to argue whether it's ethical or morally right to do that, that's
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And I think Mark, I think it is biggest attraction as a politician is that he understands the
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international monetary financial economic systems.
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And there's nobody else running these days that has that kind of a background.
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And I think that's what we need for the person in charge, I guess.
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So you don't care that they didn't pay their share to Canada to help paying for programs?
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I'm not, I'm not exactly sure it works that way.
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Ultimately, ultimately the people at the end pay their taxes like me.
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I'd have to investigate that to see if that was valid or not.
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Yeah, I think it's, I mean, it's proven track record of mismanagement of money, even when
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he was, you know, went over to the UK, mismanaged money over there in the role that he had there.
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So, yeah, I think his track record is not good.
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And like I said, I think Canadians deserve better.
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I don't know enough to have an informed opinion.
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Him moving his company to the U.S. wasn't good.
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Anybody that avoids taxes should, you know what I mean, should have issues with her.
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Like that's, if you're conservative, you're avoiding taxes, it should be investigated.
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If you're liberal and you're avoiding taxes, that should be investigated.
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These people, they advocate taxing the rich and giving to the poor, but they always find
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a way to make themselves a lot richer when they're in government.
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It sounds like you're coming from a conservative perspective.
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Right, but Paul Yeh will do the same thing as well, though, right?
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No, but he also doesn't believe in body autonomy.
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But you go back to some of those old statements.
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Everybody has things that they did and they said.
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He's doing this, I feel, for the right reasons at the right time.
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But that he chose that knowing, you look at Trudeau, he made some mistakes.
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The blackface and all of those things, that resurfaced.
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What do you think about the fact that Mr. Carney was able to get a loan from China,
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the Bank of China, for Brookfield Asset Management,
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and we still don't know how much share is still hold of this company today?
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He was saying that he was going to put everything in a blind trust.
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So anything that he has that is in a blind trust, he has no control over.
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I think there's numerous things that he's done over the course of his career
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So, yeah, I think there's major concerns with him in power.
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There's been a lot of things with him that I don't like, for sure.
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So where we stand right now in Canada, China has a lot of interference among everyone.
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It was, it's very apparent that the, sorry, not apparent,
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it's evident that China colluded to make Pierre Palliev the leader of the Conservative Party,
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It's also very apparent that China has been caught garnering favor for Mark Carney in the States
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based on, you know what I mean, social media campaigns, things like that.
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The fact that Mark Carney has done some business with China, sure, can be a bit concerning, I agree.
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That being said, we are still part of a global economy,
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and we still need to participate with, you know what I mean, all countries,
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America included, even with the craziness that's coming on right now.
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Do you think it's a bright idea to hone money from a dictatorship country?
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Oh, well, I think we probably owe money to the States,
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and they're pretty close to a dictatorship for us now.
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Well, the answer is that the American influence is a hundred times greater than China.
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Yes, China's influence is essentially with respect to Canadians who have roots in China
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or are associated with China, and that seems to be people that they seem to be talking to,
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And Brookfield, it's a large investment company,
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and it looks for its best return that it can get for its assets that people give it to invest.
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I don't think you're going to find anyone that hasn't done anything that maybe,
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you know, that has crossed some lines as far as one way or another.
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I'm sure Polyev has some closets in the skeleton.
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Do you think that Mark Carney should just be clean in front of Ken Eden
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about the relationship maybe he has with Giseline Maxwell,
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We still don't know yet what is happening around that.
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No, we don't, and we can't really make a decision until we know what's happening around that.
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You could have had no idea, so I don't really have an opinion on that.
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But if he disclosed, everybody would know then.
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If you want to run this country, you've got to disclose everything.
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Now, whether Mark Carney got that deep into it, if he has compromise on him,
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I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but we don't have any evidence, right?
00:53:50.680
But I don't put it past these kind of folks to do all kinds of some creepy stuff.
00:53:58.460
Last night on Tout le monde en parle, you mentioned that for Justin Trudeau,
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Could you elaborate on what you meant by that and how you plan to differ?
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Mr. Carney, of course, I'm speaking in relative terms, but I stand by what I said.
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You know, over the course of the last 10 years, the pace of government spending,
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particularly operational expenditures, rose by an average of 9% a year.
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That's about twice the rate of growth of the economy.
00:54:34.720
The level of government support for industry and business investment and housing and other factors
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You'll see when we release our detailed platform,
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that level of support is much lower than the level of support that we are going to give it.
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We have a faith that Mark Carney with the same cabinet, almost the same cabinet behind him,
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can actually do something because the cabinet with Trudeau were kind of responsible of what we are seeing today.
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Well, yeah, and I'm not going to say that it's been perfect under the Trudeau government,
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but, you know, the pandemic had a lot to do with it.
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And also, I think a change of leadership, I have no issue with Trudeau.
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I think a change in leadership, even though it's the same team,
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sometimes, like, you know, like in hockey, they say they lost the room, right?
00:55:36.880
Look, I'm going to use the sentence, for example.
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they're making the playoffs for the first time in, you know, since 2017.
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Well, I think as long as we got this Liberal Party,
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and if they win, why are they going to feel any pressure to change?
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They're going to be exactly the same as they've always been.
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Look, we had massive immigration for how many years?
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They finally, finally started to do a little bit about it because it was just super negative.
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Like, the whole population, I see leftists on Reddit, because I go on Reddit,
00:56:07.500
I see leftists saying they're complaining about the immigration.
00:56:10.160
And, you know, a few years ago, they were the staunch defenders of it.
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So when your own base is turning against you on something,
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But I would expect more of the same from this party, honestly.
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To see the polls right now, do you have any concern that it might deliver?
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Showed Kamala Harris was winning and Trump won by a landslide, so I'm not worried.
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I think Pierre is going to get in, so hopefully.
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After knowing all this, you will still vote for Mark Carney?
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Do you have any concern that you might win a huge majority?
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I'm more optimistic and I'm more hopeful that, you know,
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Yeah, yeah, I think Canadians will hopefully have a better sense in this election.
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I know you can mask it, but I definitely want to hear what they have to say first.
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Sorry, if they're causing an issue, I'm happy to go on.
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Do you guys have permission to be on this property?
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We are asking the opinion of the people as other journalists.
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For me, personally, going the other side is a little terrifying for me.
00:58:11.880
I'm concerned with the negativity that has crossed the border.
00:58:20.420
And I'm not saying he's a Canadian Trump, but even his slogan, you know, Canada First.
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And I feel that a lot of people are following that.
00:58:35.680
And not necessarily a left or right, but that sort of divisiveness.
00:58:51.640
And I find that this, you know, the language in Canada has changed the negativity towards the WTQ community.
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I'm an old guy, and it wasn't always like that.
00:59:07.760
How do you reconcile keeping Bill C-69 with your plans to build infrastructure in Canada?
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We do not plan to repeal Bill C-69, to answer your question directly.
00:59:21.720
Do you have any concern, maybe, like, to see that Mark Carney say, we will build new energy projects, but it's still key, Bill C-69, that is the normal pipeline bill.
00:59:38.000
We should be tapping into our own resources instead of importing it from other countries.
00:59:43.080
Canada has so many resources, like Alberta and Saskatchewan has so much oil and gas.
00:59:47.420
We should be using that instead of importing it from Saudi or wherever the hell he gets it from, so...
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I do not want to hear what leftists have to say about green energy or infrastructure.
00:59:59.980
If they're afraid of nuclear power, which is probably the most efficient green energy available, if they don't want to do that, then they're not serious.
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It's probably connected to kickbacks they get when they fund green programs, that their buddies are the owners of these companies,
01:00:14.700
and they all kind of cash out with each other when we funnel money into windmills and such,
01:00:19.160
which just take as much plastic and create as much pollution as anything else, right?
01:00:23.880
But yeah, if they were true environmentalists, they'd be advocating for nuclear, but I don't hear that from them.
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So the mainstream media, as you know, are so agreeable with Mark Carney,
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but us at Ruben News, we will show you the truth about Carney's record.
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So go over thecarniefiles.com if you want to get informed about who is really Mark Carney.
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