00:02:38.060They've targeted Jewish-owned businesses, harassed Jewish patients at hospitals, drove Jewish students from common spaces on our university campuses.
00:02:49.360They have desecrated our Holocaust memorials.
00:02:52.980Now keep those last two points in your mind, university encampments designed to humiliate and terrify Jews and Holocaust desecration.
00:03:02.380So just keep those in the back of your mind for a moment.0.60
00:03:04.620Now, I honestly thought, I'm still naive at my age of 54, I genuinely thought he was going to do something.
00:05:00.000He engages in constant demonization of Israel, not just in general, but in marked contrast with his tone and frequency of criticisms of any other country in the world, including those who have atrocious atrocities.
00:05:24.540Since being elected a little over a year ago, our government has been acting, first and foremost, on the most fundamental responsibility of government, protecting our citizens.
00:05:37.080We've introduced six new pieces of legislation to bolster public safety and to combat anti-Semitism specifically, as well as other forms of hatred.
00:05:48.360foremost amongst these six bills bill c9 the combating hate act addresses directly the rise
00:05:58.460in anti-semitism hate motivated violence and the targeting of communities it significantly
00:06:04.860strengthens the civil code the criminal code sorry it significantly strengthens
00:06:10.140the criminal code, by creating new offenses for intimidation, obstruction at places of worship,
00:06:18.940schools, community centers, and other institutions used by identifiable communities.
00:06:25.420Hey guys, he's introducing lots of legislation. He's not doing anything in the real world. He's
00:06:30.580not doing anything to stop the terrorist-style shootings of Jewish schools or the vandalism
00:08:45.500So we're saying this is not just a local thing.0.59
00:08:49.040It's so obvious it's happening at the synagogues in New York region.
00:08:52.220And here, synagogues in Counselor Chernus Lin's area, this is not just random stuff.0.53
00:08:59.120When are the people going to wake up and realize we're dealing with an orchestrated attempt to terrorize the Jewish community that comes from those Iranian agents?0.88
00:10:31.500So it's not about anti-Semitism. It's about other things too, like Islamophobia and transphobia and whatever else you want to make it.
00:10:40.500Well, exactly. And by the way, in his entire speech, he never once uses the word Zionism, because that's the trick if you haven't noticed it yet.
00:10:48.820No one is against Jews. They don't hate Jews.
00:10:54.760They're not for anti-Semitism, but they're fine with being against Zionism, as if there's a distinction.
00:11:00.480Zionism is nothing less and nothing more than the belief that the Jews, like any other people, can have a national homeland.0.81
00:11:07.160Ninety percent of Jews are Zionists. It's sort of the fulfillment of the biblical prophecy.0.95
00:11:12.640It's in the Bible, a country called Israel, the Holy Land. But Mark Carney is strategic.
00:11:17.880Like I say, he's done the trade. He'll give up 400,000 Jews for two million Muslim votes.0.85
00:11:22.760But here, let me let him tell you in his own words what he's going to do about this violent crime wave.0.85
00:12:17.180Okay, what's he going to do with the study?
00:12:18.980Secondly, the Council will coordinate a whole-of-government approach to anti-Semitism0.52
00:12:23.960because combating anti-Semitism is the responsibility we all share.
00:12:29.160It will ensure that federal workplaces, federal policies, federal public safety programs, and community initiatives are aligned in protecting Jewish Canadians, confronting hate, and promoting inclusion.
00:12:54.440In two minutes from now, I'll show you why none of that is actually going to happen.
00:12:57.820them. I'll let them continue. Third, the council will improve research in the collection
00:13:02.620of data on hate incidents. It will build stronger data sharing systems. So all orders of government,
00:13:10.480all police services are working from the same facts and with the same alignment.
00:13:15.700Okay, thanks for more studying, boss. That's not really going to stop the bullets from flying.
00:13:20.400And finally, the council will measure clearly the impact of our efforts so that we can reinforce investments in education, in prevention, training, and community safety.
00:13:32.660Those particular investments that are actually delivering real results and are helping to build a safer, more inclusive Canada.
00:13:43.260Got it. So more studying. So basically a lot of studying. But what will it actually do? I'll tell you what it's going to do.
00:13:49.500You know, there's an old saying, personnel is policy, right?
00:13:53.000So who were the Jews that Mark Carney put on this anti-Semitism panel?
00:13:57.600Well, there's actually just one, Mark Gold, a very obedient liberal senator.
00:19:25.280This is a CBC story. Charter challenge launched against U of A for removal of pro-Palestine encampment in 2024. So at this pro-Hamas encampment at U of A, it was like all universities, anti-Semitic propaganda designed to humiliate and embarrass and alienate Jewish students and staff and professors. And Nanda went to court to stop the university from clearing it out, even though most of the propagandists weren't even students.
00:19:50.540So remember I told you to remember those things a few moments ago?
00:19:54.260Because Mark Carney said this is specifically going to deal with Holocaust deniers and those university encampments.
00:20:01.140He put on the panel the lawyer for the anti-Semitic encampments and the MP who loves to hang out with Holocaust deniers.
00:20:09.620That's who Carney is putting on the anti-Semitism panel.
00:20:13.160People who practice anti-Semitism promote it.
00:25:53.120You know, what do you think of my observation that the three years, you, Lisa Bildy and Mark Joseph of the Democracy Fund, you know, you're the new generation of civil libertarians who have filled the void left by the decline of the old liberal civil libertarians.
00:26:10.260Well, that's very kind. Thank you very much. I will take that as a badge of honor, Ezra. Certainly, I got involved five or six years ago during the height of COVID because I couldn't sit idly by and watch what was happening to our country in the sense of our restrictions on all of our constitutional freedoms. So I take your compliment, Ezra. Thanks very much.
00:26:32.160Well, you're very welcome. It's a compliment, but it's also an observation of how there is a freedom movement that's growing. And to see the three of you invited to the Senate, not just everyone gets an invitation to the Senate. Can you set the scene a little bit for us? This was a Senate committee, so they were having hearings on C9. Can you remind our viewers what C9 is and why you, Lisa, and Mark would have been called in to give your side of the story?
00:26:57.500sure Ezra bill c9 is not a very big bill it's not a very large bill but it is a very important bill
00:27:05.660from our perspective um what it was what it was there for what it's trying to do is it's trying
00:27:11.940to amend the criminal code and it's trying to add a few new criminal offenses a few new crimes if
00:27:20.000you will and all of these crimes are revolving around what the liberal government considers to
00:27:25.600be hate crime. So there are a number of offenses that the Liberal government would have us,
00:27:32.480you know, amend the criminal code and set up in the criminal code as new crimes.
00:27:37.180And essentially, we were asked, we were invited by the Senate to come and give our views on the
00:27:43.500bill. What do we think of the bill? What do we think of each of the provisions of the bill?
00:27:48.140There's a few different ones. And of course, we all focused on different things, you know,
00:27:51.880in the hearing. But we all were able to go to the committee hearing and tell the senators in the
00:27:56.940committee, this was the Human Rights Committee, by the way, and we were able to tell the senators
00:28:02.220what we thought of the bill and how we thought things would play out if the bill was passed.
00:28:08.600Now, the Senate is overwhelmingly liberal. Stephen Harper refused on principle to appoint
00:28:14.280senators during his tenure as prime minister. So were there all these vacancies that normally
00:28:19.760would have been filled with conservative senators. When Harper stepped down, Trudeau just had a
00:28:24.820festival, a frenzy of appointments. Now, some of those senators claim they're independent-minded,
00:28:30.840but of course, you dance with the one that brung you, and they were all appointed by Trudeau.
00:28:35.860What was it like? Were they generally non-partisan? I saw some of the questions that were put to our
00:28:42.340friend Mark Joseph, and they actually were, you know, it was clear they were written by some
00:28:46.280staff or not by the senators themselves but they were not as sharp attacks as i had thought given
00:28:51.720that they were from liberal centers what was your experience yeah i would agree with that ezra they
00:28:56.600weren't as pointed as i was expecting i was kind of expecting a uh you know to be kind of in the
00:29:02.300belly of the beast if you will when i was in that committee hearing room but it wasn't it wasn't that
00:29:07.340experience uh the senators did have some you know some good questions for us in terms of you know
00:29:13.720what would happen if we took away the religious defense that a lot of people are talking about?
00:29:19.360What would happen, you know, if we outlawed these symbols and not those symbols, these kinds of
00:29:26.300questions? So, you know, I think there was some attempt at a sober second thought, which is what
00:29:31.760the Senate is supposed to provide. Yeah. You know, we've all heard the phrase a thankless task.
00:29:36.400I think it might have been Ernest Manning who came up with the phrase for the Senate,
00:29:39.760a taskless thanks and which i think he himself was appointed to um in the end of his career
00:29:46.340hey we have a clip of your appearance and it's about a two minute clip i'd like to play it and
00:29:51.760you can see the three amigos mark joseph lisa bildi and james manson i love that picture and
00:29:56.700i just i'm so proud to see the three of you there the new generation of freedom advocates
00:30:02.220because i know that you know not too recently none of these three organizations were around
00:30:08.500And so I'm just getting a lot of pride in seeing it.
00:30:12.180Here, let's play a two-minute exchange with you and the senators.
00:30:17.660My sense of it is that if the defense, the religious defense, as I define it in the brief here, if that's removed from the 319 sub-3 defenses, we now have a different legal regime, a different, potentially a different constitutional regime.
00:30:34.420It's no longer certain that Section 319 Sub 2 is constitutional anymore.
00:30:42.220Now, I think that we can all agree that that would be counterproductive.
00:31:36.400Harding is one of them, which I put into my brief, where in Harding, the accused, in fact, was intermingling some hateful remarks against, I think it was Muslim people, with religious texts.
00:31:49.940And he tried to use this defense to exonerate himself.
00:31:53.740And the court said, no, we're not going to have it, because when you intermingle religious texts or quotes with hateful remarks, that is not the intent of the section.
00:32:04.060So it's a high bar, senators, to actually avail yourself of this defence at all.
00:32:12.220If it's too high to get to in most cases, where's the need to remove it?
00:32:18.060particularly when I go back again, Senator, to my suggestion that we will be maybe undermining
00:32:25.580the constitutionality of the section of 319 sub 2 at all, which then throws us back into
00:32:32.000constitutional uncertainty. And as I'm sure, Senators, you're aware, as lawmakers, we want
00:32:38.940certainty in Canada. We want uniformity. We want certainty. We don't want people to know
00:32:43.600when they can and can't say what they want to say.
00:32:45.940That's a little bit of dense legalese, but let me see if I can explain that. 319 is a promoting hatred section of the criminal code, and 319 sub 2 is a defense that says if you genuinely have a religious belief, that's exempted.
00:33:01.780And I think what was going on there, and James, you correct me if I'm wrong, is that you're saying if we remove the religious defense, that might throw the whole constitutional legality of this law out the door.
00:33:14.920Because when this was written, you had that safety valve, you had that protection.
00:33:19.460If you're removing that now, that might make the whole hate speech law, hate crime law illegal.
00:33:24.980I think that's what was going on there.
00:36:32.980And to have you in the heart of the upper chamber of our parliament, I think everyone who's ever donated to those three civil liberties groups should feel a moment of pride because I think it's a landmark.
00:36:47.020I don't think the three of you have ever been together, the three organizations like that in parliament.
00:36:51.840I think it's something to be remarked on.
00:36:55.320And I'd like to just speak to our viewers for a moment
00:36:58.900because so much of the funding for the Democracy Fund,
00:37:02.360LeasAbilities, Free Speech Union, and the Justice Center
00:39:56.300and used as a political pond since the 90s.
00:39:58.460I'm in Alberta because of that very reason.
00:40:00.540An entire generation had to leave Newfoundland
00:40:02.320or stay on the pogey in government dole.0.71
00:40:04.240They basically forced Newfoundland into poverty.
00:40:05.960You know, I've certainly heard that, and Ottawa completely mismanaged the fishery, which was such an important part of Newfoundland's economy and life.