Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ More gun control than ever, more gun crime than ever for Canadians

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00:01:34.520 Tonight, we talk about Justin Trudeau's last-ditch campaign plan to seize the remaining firearms in

00:01:56.860 Canada. It's a feature conversation with Rod Giltaka. It's December 23rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:02:04.520 Well, if you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara, as Ronald Reagan once joked, they

00:02:23.600 would soon run out of sand. They really don't know what they're doing. They can't accomplish it.

00:02:30.400 You can think of that in reverse as well. The government is in charge of banning the criminal use of firearms.

00:02:40.500 Not just banning it once or twice, but every year, Trudeau seems to ban guns again.

00:02:46.820 Well, here's the head of the Peel Regional Police Commission on Gun Crime, giving us an update on just how well

00:02:55.000 that's going. The surge of illegal firearms, not just here in Peel and the GTA, pose a significant

00:03:00.840 threat. In reality, here in Peel, we have seized more firearms than we have in any year previously.

00:03:08.140 On average, we're seeing an illegal firearm seized by our officers just slightly over 30 hours. Every 30

00:03:16.300 hours, we're seizing a firearm. This isn't exclusive to the Peel area, but the GTA and the province itself.

00:03:22.660 The number of shootings we've seen here in Peel exceed more than we've ever seen in years

00:03:28.000 previously. I can say the majority of these legal firearms are smuggled into Ontario through criminal

00:03:34.460 networks, and the origins we know are from the U.S. And these criminal networks are looking to

00:03:42.080 capitalize on our community to make profit, victimize the vulnerable. Approximately 90% of these firearms

00:03:50.560 that we seized are directly traced back to the U.S. And I can say in reality, the remaining 10%

00:03:57.740 are likely also from the U.S. They just reflect the ability of the difficulty we have on tracing some

00:04:06.800 of these firearms because they've been de-identified.

00:04:10.120 Unpossible. I don't believe it. That must be disinformation. After all, hasn't Justin Trudeau

00:04:15.300 banned guns and then banned them again and then triple banned them just to be triple sure? It reminds

00:04:19.960 me of that great saying from systems analysis, the purpose of a system is what it does. The purpose of

00:04:28.100 a system is what it does. What does that mean? It means if the system does not crack down on illegal

00:04:35.100 firearms use, if in fact, despite all these gun bans, there's more criminal misuse of firearms than

00:04:41.080 ever. Don't tell me the purpose of the gun control system is to reduce gun crime. The purpose of a

00:04:47.160 system is what it does. And our current system has allowed gun crime to flourish while focusing the

00:04:54.360 rage and anger of the government on law-abiding firearms. You heard the guy. He said that 90% of

00:05:02.140 the firearms used in crimes in Peel region, which is around Toronto, it's smuggled in from the U.S.

00:05:09.300 It's got nothing to do with law-abiding Canadian gun owners. The problem is criminal elements

00:05:15.720 smuggling from the states. The purpose of a system is what it does. Justin Trudeau's real purpose

00:05:21.460 is to demonize law-abiding Canadian gun owners. If you don't believe me, let's talk to an expert on

00:05:29.560 the subject. I'm delighted to spend the next half hour with Rod Giletka, the CEO and Executive Director

00:05:37.320 at Canada's Gun Lobby, the Canadian Coalition for Firearms, right? Rod, you heard from the head of the gun

00:05:44.980 crime team in Peel Regional Police. It's the worst ever. We have more gun control than ever, but it's

00:05:55.660 the worst gun crime than ever. How do you square those things? Yeah, it is worse than ever. You know,

00:06:01.920 what's interesting is if you look at back in 2014, which we were sort of ending, I believe it was

00:06:08.400 around nine years, you can correct me on that, of conservative party rule under Prime Minister

00:06:13.680 Stephen Harper. In 2014, firearm-related violence was at the lowest point it had ever been in the

00:06:20.480 history of statistics on firearm-related crime for StatsCan. And then here we are sitting somewhere

00:06:29.240 around 2023, I believe the numbers are in, and we are at the highest point of firearm-related violence

00:06:35.800 in the history of data collection of that kind of information at StatsCan after Bill C-17, or sorry,

00:06:43.240 71, handgun ban, massive gun ban on May 1st, 2020. Bill C-21, Bill C-21 amendments and now this latest ban.

00:06:53.300 And it's amazing. It's almost like the more handgun and long gun bans that the government

00:06:59.560 introduces and the more gun control they introduce, the more dangerous Canadians get. It's almost like

00:07:03.880 they're aimed at the wrong target. Well, it's obviously doing nothing to tamp down illegal crime.

00:07:11.080 What is the reason behind the surge in crime? Those numbers are astonishing. I understand that for the

00:07:18.300 first time ever, you talk about going from a record low to a record high, that Canada is now on par with

00:07:25.240 the United States for crime other than murder. And that is so astonishing. My entire life, one of the

00:07:33.260 snobby things that Canadians said is, well, we're different from Americans. We've got the best health

00:07:38.300 care system in the world, and we don't have their gun crime. Well, unfortunately, I don't think either

00:07:42.560 those two things are true anymore. What is the reason that gun crime has soared? Obviously, gun control

00:07:48.760 does nothing against gun crime, but why has it gone so much higher? Well, I think you can figure out

00:07:56.660 where the gun crime is coming from if you just locate the people that are committing those crimes,

00:08:03.160 right? And the police know full well that the overwhelming majority of this crime is to do with

00:08:09.040 the drug trade, to do with gang activity. It's also a result of many social ills that we see

00:08:14.900 increasing in our society. I mean, I was born in Canada. I've been alive here 55 years. You know,

00:08:21.860 you may not be as old as I am, but I think all of us that have been around a while have seen the

00:08:27.540 difference in the disintegration of the social fabric of Canada. So anyway, that comes from social moral

00:08:36.040 decline, unemployment, lack of opportunity, lack of hope. You have some difficult communities.

00:08:44.480 You also have uncontrolled immigration. There's a lot of different things that end up funneling into

00:08:50.740 the overall levels of violence that you see in your society. And I think the most important point to

00:08:56.860 remember is those are all very difficult problems to solve. Those take a lot of resolve. They take a lot

00:09:02.960 of honesty. You have to look at things in a very honest and stark way. You have to address

00:09:07.600 the root causes of violence. And so those things are difficult and they take more than four years,

00:09:13.520 which is a typical election cycle. So that's why you don't see them being tackled by the liberal NDP

00:09:18.540 Bloc Québécois government. You see them doing things like declaring gun bans, which haven't made a

00:09:24.460 difference whatsoever in the gun crime that we're seeing.

00:09:26.920 You know, as you were talking, I was jotting down my hypothesis. I mean, you mentioned a few things.

00:09:35.360 I got a couple more. You mentioned immigration. I think that is a factor. People who have brought a

00:09:41.080 lawlessness or a low trust society approach to Canada, foreign gangs included. The move to defund

00:09:48.920 police. It's a real thing in Canada, not as pronounced as it was in the States. The new move to bail

00:09:55.840 criminals, including repeat criminals. Catch and release would be a plain way of saying that.

00:10:02.660 Ending Harper's mandatory minimum sentences, which were not only a deterrent on crime,

00:10:08.580 but literally kept prisoners in jail so they could commit no more crime on the street.

00:10:13.200 And finally, Donald Trump might point out that the border is an issue. I mean, we heard that top

00:10:20.000 cop, if 90% of the guns are coming across the border, maybe Trump's onto something. Maybe we should

00:10:24.860 firm up the border and stop the trafficking of criminals and drugs. I mean, that, I guess that

00:10:31.140 would be the fifth thing that you mentioned is when you have the amount of hard drugs on the streets

00:10:36.020 that we do in Canada, the people who deal those drugs often have guns to protect their ill-caught

00:10:42.020 and gains. And maybe people who use drugs perhaps are on, have guns for the same reason. Those are six

00:10:48.120 reasons that crime is high. None of them have anything to do with law-abiding Canadian gun owners.

00:10:53.680 Not one.

00:10:56.020 Well, if that was true, if what the Liberals and the Bloc Québécois and the NDP say is true,

00:11:02.080 meaning that gun bans exclusively aimed at licensed gun owners who are members of gun clubs, who buy their

00:11:09.660 firearms legally, who are maintaining a license, all that stuff. If that's where the crime was coming

00:11:14.260 from, it would be absolutely a walk in the park to show that. We wouldn't need the rhetorical battle

00:11:22.380 that we see over gun debate in Canada. No, you're lying. No, you're lying. Well, I've got a doctor's

00:11:26.960 coat on. So that means I can say untrue things and you're just terrible. Like you wouldn't need any of

00:11:32.320 these tactics. You should, you would be able to say, well, look here, here they are. These are the gun

00:11:36.820 clubs where all this, where these people are centered around. We're going to shut these clubs down and we're

00:11:40.940 going to seize all these people. Like it would be game over, but it's not. It's, it's systemic

00:11:46.060 issues. Some of them, some of them being spawned by legislation, like the Liberals Bill C-5 and Bill

00:11:53.020 C-75 that created the situations, like you just mentioned, that police have been pleading with

00:11:59.380 the government to leave. They literally have been, Ezra, they've been pleading with government to leave

00:12:04.560 licensed gun owners alone, like directly. And at the same time saying, Liberals, you've created this

00:12:10.780 mess with these two pieces of legislation. You have to stop. You have to turn this around

00:12:14.500 and they ignore them. And there's a reason for all that. But yeah, that's the situation we're in right

00:12:19.280 now. I think you're really onto something where you say tackling crime is a tough, complex, long-term

00:12:24.760 thing. Banning guns is a press release that they could thump their chest and feel tough. But I think

00:12:32.500 there's also the political layer here. Who are the law abiding gun owners in Canada? Farmers and ranchers

00:12:39.040 in rural parts. Well, they're not Liberal voters. There are some sports shooters. I'm guessing if you're

00:12:45.760 into shooting sports, you're probably going to be more conservative-leaning. I'm just, I'm not stereotyping.

00:12:50.920 I just think that's probably likely. There's not a lot of home defense allowed in Canada, but that would be

00:12:56.900 another reason to have a lawful firearm. Every group that I just listed is likely to vote, more likely to vote

00:13:04.160 conservative than liberal. So Trudeau's got a win-win. He can demonize them as the problem,

00:13:10.300 thus misdirecting from his own problem, and put the conservatives in a pickle because they're going

00:13:16.380 to defend farmers and ranches and rural people and sports shooters. But they'll look like they're

00:13:22.120 actually defending gun crime because they're defending guns. I think it's one of Trudeau's go-to

00:13:28.200 points. He talks about abortion. He talks about guns. And those are really his go-to's when things

00:13:34.900 are rough and things have never been rougher for Trudeau. I think, I just wonder if it's working.

00:13:41.580 I think Trudeau does it because he thinks it works. Rod, is it working this time?

00:13:47.720 Well, I don't think it is. I don't think it's working as a lot of their tactics aren't working

00:13:51.800 anymore. And I think, like I've said, I've had to do a lot of interviews over the last week,

00:13:56.560 as you can well imagine, because this ban was devastating to a lot of people. And I've been

00:14:02.240 calling it an incredibly cynical and malevolent action. And there is evidence, there's direct

00:14:08.460 evidence to show how malevolent this is. So the liberals had rolled out their latest gun bill was

00:14:16.600 Bill C-21. And then when Bill C-21 was going through the House Committee, the liberals came with

00:14:23.240 a hundred amendments to their own bill. So that doesn't happen very often, because usually you

00:14:30.380 make a bill and you don't have to amend anything, right? Because it was your bill. So they come with

00:14:33.800 these amendments. And one of them was called G-46. And it was a list of 300 and some odd models of

00:14:40.520 firearms that they wanted to add through legislation into this bill to be prohibited. And of course,

00:14:46.720 there was hunting rifles in there. There was single shot, a hundred-year-old rifle. There's all

00:14:51.580 kinds of crazy things. 22s, all kinds of stuff in there. And there was a big backlash. And after

00:14:57.380 a lot of fighting, they withdrew that amendment. Okay? They withdrew it. Then after that-

00:15:03.580 Backlash from who? Who? I mean, the firearms community. But like I said, liberals don't care

00:15:08.080 about that. Were there some rural liberals? There are a few who complained. Like, why would Trudeau care

00:15:15.020 about backlash? Well, because the thing is, like, gun control is this smash a glass and pull out gun

00:15:22.520 control when you're, you know, in trouble, right? Same thing as abortion. They tried to create an

00:15:27.660 abortion debate when abortion was settled decades ago. And nobody's ever going to take abortions

00:15:32.940 off the table in Canada. And so that's always been their go-to. And, you know, the backlash was

00:15:43.540 because there are groups like ours and others out there that are pushing this conversation into the

00:15:49.580 mainstream. Because I think that if Canadians are curious enough, they're like, well, wait a minute.

00:15:54.680 We've had more, and this was a liberal tagline, we've had more gun control than in a generation.

00:16:01.040 The liberals say that, and that's true. They've rolled out so much gun control, it makes the early

00:16:07.160 90s look like nothing, right? And at the same time, Canadians, they can't all be asleep. They're

00:16:12.720 sitting there going, it's never been more dangerous to live in Canada. So there's a little, there's a

00:16:18.760 couple of issues that they can't reconcile. Now you have a little push from some honest media outlets,

00:16:24.520 you have alternative media outlets, you have gun groups, you have wildlife federations, right? You have

00:16:29.700 all these people pushing all this material out. And then people start taking notice. So they finally

00:16:34.920 withdrew those amendments. And then after that, for two years, Ezra, they didn't do anything,

00:16:41.200 right? I'd even heard some liberal MPs saying, we're done with gun control, we pushed it too far.

00:16:46.940 They did nothing. Now, all of a sudden, they come back with this, this vengeance. And they are like,

00:16:55.220 okay, well, everything that we told you guys, because they remember, I don't know if you remember,

00:16:59.180 when they were banning all these guns, they said, don't worry, gun owners, you conspiracy theorists,

00:17:03.580 there's tons of there's 18,000 models of firearms still available for you to continue on your life,

00:17:08.560 like it was like, you know, like this never happened. And so people went out and they spent

00:17:12.860 thousands upon thousands of dollars, in my case, $9,000, replacing all of these firearms with firearms I

00:17:20.040 could use for the same purposes. Then they come out after two years, and they're like, yeah,

00:17:23.540 all those that we told you to buy, they're banned too. Can't even take them out of the house.

00:17:28.260 Don't worry, there's a gun buyback coming. We promised that half a decade ago. Why now?

00:17:34.500 Well, yeah. Because, and because the liberals also know they have no time to collect these guns.

00:17:39.420 Right. There's going to be an election within 10 months at the latest, they'll never get these guns.

00:17:43.680 And they know that the conservatives have vowed to roll all of this back. They know that this will

00:17:49.480 never even happen even after they lose the next election. So why would they do that?

00:17:53.540 They're doing that because they're like a wounded animal. They're so desperate for a bump in the

00:17:58.160 poles. They're willing to try anything. And devastating. Family businesses across the country

00:18:05.120 causing people like myself to lose $9,000. They're like, yeah, go buy more guns. Yeah,

00:18:10.760 you bought them? Good. Just joking. Those are banned too. They think that's funny. And causing gun clubs

00:18:16.280 to be on the edge of closing. These are generational groups. These clubs have been around for some of them,

00:18:22.720 a hundred years. Why would they do all this devastating, terrible damage and leave gun,

00:18:28.180 you know, firearm related criminals alone for a bump in the poles? That's why it's so malevolent

00:18:33.000 and so cynical. Yeah. I live in the greater Toronto area. And I remember when the Toronto police

00:18:38.000 gave advice, there's so many robberies, so many home invasion robberies, often with firearms. People

00:18:44.520 are so terrified. The police are powerless. I don't know if you saw this because I know you're

00:18:50.000 out west there, Rod. The advice given to Torontonians by the police was have your key fobs to your car

00:18:57.820 near the front door. So when your home invasion robbery is happening, they don't feel the criminals

00:19:03.640 don't feel the need to go throughout the whole house. Here's a clip of the police saying that.

00:19:07.360 There's also updated advice for all vehicle owners. A message echoed by Toronto police speaking at an

00:19:13.300 Etobicoke safety meeting last month. Constable Marco Ricciardi had a new message for vehicle

00:19:18.300 owners who keep their fobs in Faraday pouches. To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your

00:19:25.160 home, leave your fobs at your front door. Because they're breaking into your home to steal your car.

00:19:30.000 They don't want anything else. A lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them. And they're

00:19:34.180 not toy guns. They're real guns. They're loaded. That's why Golinski says they will be installing

00:19:39.480 the doorstops and taking YPR's advice seriously. Yeah. So I think that's not all, not all car

00:19:48.100 thefts involve firearms. But I think that so many people in Toronto and Vancouver and Montreal

00:19:54.020 have had a close encounter with crime either firsthand or someone they know that they no longer

00:20:00.200 conjure up in their mind an image of a right wing, you know, sports shooter, if they ever did. Like

00:20:06.300 they just know that is not the face of crime in 2024. So I hope it's not working for them. But

00:20:14.620 you mentioned the gun buyback scheme. And there was a recent exchange in Parliament. I'd like to play

00:20:22.480 it's a couple minutes long, but it's an interesting clip. Let me play this for you. And I'd like your

00:20:26.360 take on it. This is Justin Trudeau sort of defending the success of this buyback program. Let's take a

00:20:34.740 look. After a 116% increase in gun crime under this prime minister and a repeat violent offender

00:20:41.400 out on early parole allegedly murdered a 34-year-old woman in Toronto on Sunday, the Toronto police had

00:20:47.200 this question, and I quote, for the prime minister, how was this person with their history allowed to

00:20:52.480 access a firearm and be alone with a partner when they they were supposedly living in a supervised

00:20:57.440 community setting? What answers are you providing to the victim's family or our communities who continue

00:21:03.240 to see the heartbreaking results of your weak policies on crime? End quote.

00:21:10.280 Despite conservative opposition, we continue to move forward on bringing in red flag laws and yellow flag

00:21:16.780 laws to make sure that people who are charged with domestic violence don't have access to firearms.

00:21:22.700 Conservatives stood against that and fought against that every step of the way, just like they're

00:21:28.460 working hard to make legal again assault-style weapons that we rendered illegal in this country four years

00:21:35.260 ago. They want to unfreeze the handgun bans. And last time they were in office, they cut 1100 workers

00:21:42.700 from CBSA to help who were there to prevent illegal guns flowing in from the United States.

00:21:47.980 He has not banned a single gun. He spent over 60 million dollars to fail to take a single gun off

00:21:53.820 the road. He's had to give it an amnesty to reverse all of the announced gun bans that he did standing in

00:22:00.060 front of a cartoon image of a scary Hollywood-style gun. And what has been the sum total of all of this?

00:22:06.060 A 116% increase in gun violence since he became prime minister. When will he realize that banning

00:22:16.940 Grandpa Joe's hunting rifle is not going to stop crime, that instead we actually have to lock up the

00:22:24.380 criminals? Instead of trying to scare Grandpa Joe, he should be honest with Grandpa Joe in that we have

00:22:32.220 banned assault-style weapons and already we've seen thousands of assault-style weapons collected and

00:22:40.380 destroyed. These are things that we are doing that the Conservative Party and its funders, the gun lobby,

00:22:47.420 continue to stand against. They will re-legalize assault-style weapons in this country, unfreeze the

00:22:55.260 market on handguns. That's what they promised the gun lobby. And they hide behind Grandpa Joe because

00:23:01.580 they can admit it out loud. Mr. Speaker, he admitted he doesn't even know what an assault rifle is,

00:23:09.020 let alone able to ban one. He spent 60 million dollars and his government admits they didn't

00:23:14.140 take a single firearm off the road. There's been a 116% increase in gun violence under his leadership

00:23:22.460 and 99% of the shipping containers that come in are not inspected at all, even though the previous

00:23:28.380 Conservative government increased the number of frontline border officers. Why is it that the

00:23:34.540 Prime Minister is so busy trying to protect turkeys from hunters that he doesn't protect Canadians from

00:23:40.220 criminals? I thought that was an interesting exchange. Let me ask you a question, Rod.

00:23:45.580 On the one hand, Pierre Polyev says 60 million dollars spent on a gun buyback that has not yet bought back

00:23:51.820 a gun. And on the other hand, Trudeau said, quote, thousands of guns collected and destroyed.

00:23:59.260 Can both of those things be true? Is the government collecting and destroying firearms?

00:24:04.060 Is Trudeau misremembering or making something up? What's what are the facts?

00:24:08.700 No, Trudeau is lying. This has been a lying has been a tactic for them since the beginning. And

00:24:13.740 finally, Canadians are starting to starting to catch on. That's why they're being completely decimated in the

00:24:18.860 polls because people typically don't like to be lied to. So I believe that the number is up some

00:24:24.860 around around 70 million dollars now that they've spent on trying to design this buyback. And what

00:24:31.020 the buyback is that they say is rolling out now is for retails, retailers, right? So retail businesses

00:24:36.940 and distributors that were caught with all of this unsellable stock. Now, I attended a technical

00:24:42.940 briefing with Public Safety one week ago when they rolled this ban out and they had talked about

00:24:48.620 their retail buyback pilot project that was completed with four retailers. So I'm

00:24:56.540 I'm curious how four retailers like I know retailers in my business, right? Lots of them.

00:25:01.500 And, you know, you can have some people that have, you know, 15 rifles that have been banned,

00:25:06.460 right, for the last five years that they can't that they can't dispose of. Or you could have maybe a

00:25:10.940 distributor that might have a couple of hundred, maybe. So I don't know how that how he gets to

00:25:15.820 thousands with four retailers. But nonetheless, he might be counting people that maybe have passed

00:25:21.820 away and have lost the opportunity to get to get compensated for those firearms. The RCMP just

00:25:28.780 seizes them. Anyway, I don't think that there's any way that they've bought back thousands of

00:25:34.220 firearms. I think it's a total lie. And they're trying to use this for political gain and lying

00:25:39.980 about the actual reality of it. So they don't suffer any of the undesirable consequences of

00:25:45.180 bringing up the gun debate. You know, I'm going to swear here, but it's not actually meant to swear.

00:25:50.940 One of my favorite little books and I used to give it out as a gift. It's about this big. It's a tiny

00:25:55.180 book. It's almost a book lit. And I'm going to swear because there's a swear in the title of the book.

00:26:01.100 It's called On Bullshit. And it's a brilliant book. I had the pleasure of meeting the author.

00:26:07.580 And he said, you know, there's so much bullshit in the world, but we don't actually

00:26:11.820 you'd think we would study it. What is bullshit? What are the different species of it?

00:26:16.060 And and he said, by the way, and I'm going to say BS now instead of the full word. He said,

00:26:21.340 BS doesn't necessarily have to be a lie. It's just something you say to get through the moment. It's

00:26:25.660 this great little book called On BS. And I think that's Trudeau. I think Trudeau is saying something.

00:26:32.220 I don't think he read his briefing notes. I think he just is saying something. He doesn't know if

00:26:37.340 it's true or not. He's not an expert in any policy. The only policy he's ever really cared about

00:26:41.980 was marijuana legalization. And that was years ago. I think Trudeau doesn't even know if he's

00:26:47.260 telling the truth. He probably heard that gun buyback stat somewhere. Maybe it was an American

00:26:53.180 program in California. Like, I think that he he just comes by BS so naturally. He probably believed

00:27:01.500 it in the moment because he heard it somewhere. I think I think a lot of people just tune him out,

00:27:06.460 though. They hear that voice and they just tune him out. But what's interesting to me, I mean,

00:27:10.860 Trudeau has always been a BSer on a lot of things. And then and the press gallery never holds him to

00:27:16.060 account. When was the last time they've ever held him? They don't fact check Trudeau or Christian

00:27:21.580 Freeland. They save that for right wing politicians or Donald Trump. But watching

00:27:26.540 that exchange, Rod, I'm sort of impressed that Pierre Polyev is leaning into it. He's not afraid

00:27:33.100 of this issue. He's not, you know, being vague. I mean, you can tell me you do this for a living. You're

00:27:39.740 the CEO of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights. It looks to me like Pierre Polyev isn't

00:27:46.140 being malmowed here. He's not being pushed around by the scaremongering. He knows his facts

00:27:55.180 better than Trudeau's BS. So what I really take away from that exchange is

00:28:02.220 Polyev is sort of strong on this file. Am I wrong?

00:28:05.260 Well, I think he is. And I mean, obviously, there's so many people. We represent a lot of

00:28:10.940 people. Plus, we interact with a lot of people. And you're always going to have this core of people

00:28:14.700 saying like, you know, Polyev is not going to do any of these things. He's the other side of the

00:28:18.940 liberal coin. They're all on the same side. And it's like, well, I've met Pierre a few times. And I also,

00:28:26.620 I watch what people do a lot less than I watch what they say. And, you know, there are people in the

00:28:33.980 lobbying community. I think we might be one of them that told Pierre way back in the day when

00:28:38.300 he first became leader, like, don't just don't talk about guns. It's not it's not going to be beneficial

00:28:42.940 to you. And and us as a community, I don't care if you don't talk about guns. Just make sure that you

00:28:49.420 roll all this back because it's morally wrong. And it's and it's actually dangerous to public safety

00:28:54.300 because it takes every dollar spent on gun buybacks is a dollar not spent on actual, you know, reducing

00:29:00.700 violence. And he did not take that advice. He's like, no, I'm going to talk about it because

00:29:07.260 there's if you know, if you understand that the issue enough, which I don't think the other

00:29:12.380 conservative leaders did, if you understand the issue enough, there's really nothing to hide from

00:29:17.100 because our side is actually factually and morally right. And they are lying and can get caught in

00:29:23.260 countless lies. So I think he's he's he's really doing two things. He's being very courageous.

00:29:28.540 He's following through with his promises to every community that he's promised something to.

00:29:34.140 And and he's he's he's making sure that he's prepared to have these conversations

00:29:38.860 and respond to these statements by the liberals, which just shows that he's

00:29:42.620 willing to put in a lot more work maybe than some other people that have taken a stab at that job.

00:29:47.100 Yeah, there's a real contrast. I think Polly takes after Stephen Harper and that he actually

00:29:52.140 reads the briefing notes. I want to ask you one last question, Ron. I appreciate you spending so much time

00:29:57.020 with us today. There was this little flourish and it was a perfect Trudeau flourish. Like I say,

00:30:02.460 that book on BS, I really got to start. I used to I used to hand those out to when I found a BS or

00:30:08.940 in the wild, I would give him a copy book. Trudeau is the master BS or. And there was a little flourish

00:30:15.740 to what he did recently when he announced these different types of firearms he was going to seize.

00:30:21.260 He said, and we're going to send them to Ukraine for their war against Russia.

00:30:29.180 Now, I've paid some attention, as we all have, to that horrific war and the terrible weapons,

00:30:35.980 chief amongst them artillery. And then there's a lot of drones and there's a lot of tanks and there's

00:30:41.660 air power and there's helicopters and rockets. It's a bloodbath. It's a massacre. Hundreds of

00:30:49.180 thousands have died on each side. And then there's the civilian casualties. To send these little

00:30:55.580 old-fashioned plinkers, plink, plink. I mean, there's no way, first of all, I don't even know

00:31:02.700 if it's practical to send them. But even if this cockamamie plan that was obviously schemed up by some

00:31:08.780 PR intern, if you sent a soldier into battle with these, like, I don't think Trudeau knows what an

00:31:16.780 assault-style weapon is. Is it a style? Does it, like, look scary? If you... The guy has no idea.

00:31:24.780 He's using Ukraine as some sort of political moral justification. Talk to me a little bit about the

00:31:31.020 kind of firearms that Trudeau would send to Ukraine and why that's complete BS, but the media loves it.

00:31:39.340 Well, I mean, it's just, like, Trudeau, just going back to what you said before, he lies as a reflex.

00:31:46.460 He's one of those people, right? If his brain doesn't have an answer right away, he'll just make

00:31:51.260 up a lie. That's what he does. I mean, I watch this guy constantly, obviously, because it's part of my

00:31:55.660 job. When it comes to the Ukraine thing, you know, it's interesting, you know, you kind of ran down the

00:32:01.340 tally of what's gone on there. And all of that is very real for the people that live in that region.

00:32:07.420 And Trudeau and the just atrocious Bill Blair, they sit back and Dominic LeBlanc, too. They brought

00:32:14.540 him in to be the straight man, but he's just shown that he's just as corrupt and malevolent as the

00:32:19.740 rest of them. They're using Ukraine as a prop. Like, that's what it is to them. It's a prop.

00:32:25.420 There's, like, well, there's people, there's voters that Ukraine's important to, so we'll say,

00:32:30.780 you know, Slava Ukranani. You know, I'll yell that out in a crowd in a G7 meeting or whatever

00:32:36.700 that was where he yells that stuff out. Like, it's a tagline. It's a prop to him. It's not real to

00:32:41.900 people like Trudeau. But anyway, forgive me for ranting on him, but I can't believe that anyone ever

00:32:47.020 voted for him. When it comes to these firearms, these firearms are a variety of different things.

00:32:52.300 And to be fair, because we're not a group that, you know, talks out of both sides of our mouths,

00:32:57.180 there's around 80, about 90,000 of these firearms are AR-15s. But here's the thing.

00:33:05.500 They are not standardized. They are all different manufacturers. They have different attributes to

00:33:10.300 them. They have different levels of quality. You're not going to send the doctrine of military

00:33:15.340 when it comes to equipment is standardization. Every rifle must be the same. Every sighting system,

00:33:20.540 every magazine, everything has to be the same because you have to be able to,

00:33:23.820 oddly enough, pick up a gun off the ground and operate it. So even the AR-15s,

00:33:28.380 they're useless to the Ukrainians. And then, of course, they banned a whole bunch of single shot and

00:33:35.100 bolt action firearms. There's even some in there that are antiques that are worth 20,000,

00:33:40.780 30,000 dollars, like single shot, you know, 100-year-old rifles. And 22s, a ton of 22-caliber

00:33:48.620 rifles. Like, it's absurd. Like, it's not even a serious conversation for anyone if you sat down

00:33:53.900 at the table and said, okay, what can we send them? Like, I don't know. Maybe there's, you know, 200

00:33:59.740 Colt ARs that would fit the bill that we could send over there. Other than that, the other 1.5 million

00:34:05.660 guns are just going to have to be destroyed. So are they sending guns to Ukraine? They won't

00:34:09.740 send a single gun to Ukraine. But anyway, like I said, it's just a, it's the death and destruction

00:34:15.260 is a prop for these people. Yeah. Incredible. Well, Rod, it's been great to spend some time

00:34:20.540 with you. I know Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter, is a bit of an expert on firearms and

00:34:26.460 firearms law. I'm more of a dabbler. I let Sheila do the heavy lifting on this file, but I've learned

00:34:31.180 a lot from our conversation today. And I'm a little bit encouraged because although Trudeau

00:34:36.060 is a BS there, I think Polyev is not afraid of this issue. And I think that's the difference.

00:34:41.740 I think that all conservatives know that gun grabs don't work. The only question is there,

00:34:46.140 are they more afraid of the media party being mean to them than they are standing up? And that video

00:34:52.940 exchange we just showed gives me some encouragement. Rod, before we say goodbye, what's the best way for

00:34:58.460 folks to learn more about the CCFR and what you guys are doing? Is there a website I can direct

00:35:04.540 people to? Absolutely. People can go to ccfr.ca or they can go to firearmrights.ca. And if you're

00:35:12.940 thinking of supporting a group like ours, what you should do is click why join and look at the list of

00:35:17.980 things. We publish everything that we do for the community on our website. So you can check that out

00:35:22.220 and become a member or donate if you like. Right on. Great to talk with you. We've been talking with

00:35:26.220 Rod Giltaka, CEO and executive director of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights. You take

00:35:32.380 care and thanks for fighting for our freedoms. Thank you, Ezra. All right. Well, that's our show

00:35:37.340 for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,

00:35:43.020 good night. And you keep fighting for freedom, too.

Rebel News Podcast - December 24, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ More gun control than ever, more gun crime than ever for Canadians

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