Rebel News Podcast - November 25, 2022


EZRA LEVANT ｜ My favourite lawyer at the trucker commission gets something wrong — and we want to get it right


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This episode is brought to you by the Trucker Commission of Inquiry, a government inquiry into the alleged use of martial law by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in response to a trucker convoy in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the truckers.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, my favorite lawyer at the Trucker Commission gets something wrong, and we want to get it right.
00:00:05.040 It's November 24th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:08.520 Shame on you, you censorious bug!
00:00:22.500 I'm finding this Trucker Commission of Inquiry useful.
00:00:25.300 We're learning things we never knew before, that we could never know without the power of this Commission of Inquiry, the power to subpoena people and documents.
00:00:35.260 I mean, in Parliament, we have question period, but it is not called answer period for a reason.
00:00:40.780 At the Commission, though, politicians have to attend.
00:00:43.520 They have to swear to tell the truth, and they're pressed to answer.
00:00:46.900 They're not always doing so.
00:00:48.340 Some of them are clearly lying, although the police witnesses were pretty good, I think.
00:00:52.880 And as we showed you yesterday, we get access to records that are normally kept secret from us, that are normally exempt from, for example, access to information requests, cabinet memos, private text messages between cabinet ministers.
00:01:06.740 Like this one, where two cabinet ministers casually talked about sending a military tank to respond to the trucker convoy.
00:01:16.540 Seriously, what a couple of fascists.
00:01:18.340 I think this inquiry is good.
00:01:22.500 I think the evidence is overwhelming that Trudeau had no legal basis for invoking martial law.
00:01:26.980 And really, his shills aren't even really claiming with any enthusiasm that he did.
00:01:32.840 They talk about political reasons and journalistic reasons and how they were being made to look like fools on the world stage.
00:01:39.360 But I don't think anyone is really even pretending that the legal reasons for invoking martial law were met.
00:01:46.200 I'm sure Trudeau, the prince of lies, will take that on himself.
00:01:49.960 But I don't think it'll work, actually.
00:01:52.880 So I like this commission, and I really didn't think I would.
00:01:56.940 Commission lawyers are doing a fair enough job, especially given their very tight time constraints.
00:02:01.780 That's something Trudeau has been using against them.
00:02:04.340 He just refuses to release unredacted documents because he knows this commission has an expiry date.
00:02:11.260 Unlike in normal court cases, things can't be delayed while a judge orders someone to hand over better records.
00:02:17.340 Or the other move, dumping tens of thousands of pages on the other side without time for them to review them.
00:02:23.280 So it's unfair, but it's fair enough. 0.78
00:02:26.000 But, and I've said this several times, the real stars of the commission are the freedom-oriented lawyers.
00:02:33.840 The Democracy Fund's head of litigation, Alan Harner.
00:02:37.460 He has official intervener status at the commission.
00:02:40.700 He's given private confidential documents in advance.
00:02:43.920 He's allowed to cross-examine witnesses, including cabinet ministers.
00:02:47.980 He's doing a great job.
00:02:49.060 But my biggest kudos go to the team of lawyers associated with our friends at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:02:57.100 I think there are six or seven of them altogether.
00:02:59.920 I know Keith Wilson.
00:03:01.100 We've talked to him a lot on this show before, but there are a lot of new faces I didn't know before.
00:03:05.980 For example, Rob Kittridge, who we spoke with just the other day.
00:03:09.540 Eva Chipiuk, who's been working with Tamara Leach in particular.
00:03:12.160 I think there are literally seven lawyers affiliated with the truckers and the JCCF, and I think they've been the stars of the commission, really, giving it teeth where I'm not sure other lawyers there would have done so.
00:03:25.280 And my favorite lawyer has been Brendan Miller.
00:03:29.200 He's the toughest, the best in form, the most tenacious in the group.
00:03:32.480 I only heard of him from this commission.
00:03:34.820 I didn't know him before.
00:03:35.880 I met him very briefly on the first day of the commission, and he's been the MVP.
00:03:40.080 Good facts, good arguments, good questions for the witnesses.
00:03:44.680 I think he's been running a little hot lately.
00:03:46.940 He lost his cool a little bit when the judge wouldn't give him a speedy ruling on some of Trudeau's blacked-out documents, and the judge actually booted him out for it.
00:03:55.280 The commission has reconvened.
00:03:56.120 The commission apprend.
00:03:58.260 Sir.
00:03:59.200 Okay.
00:04:00.040 The commission counsel has not completed her.
00:04:03.460 I understand that, sir, and your counsel's advised you that.
00:04:06.980 No, I know you've directed.
00:04:08.200 I'm sorry.
00:04:08.520 You wanted the application.
00:04:09.360 I'm speaking.
00:04:10.560 Yes, sir.
00:04:12.480 The application, if you want to do it, you've been advised it's to be done in writing, not in the middle of the presentation.
00:04:19.540 Sir, we filed two motions in writing at your direction that you've refused to rule on with respect to the redaction of documents from the government of Canada.
00:04:27.240 You're speaking.
00:04:28.060 That has not been ruled on and has been filed for days.
00:04:31.000 We'll take a break while you're asked to leave.
00:04:35.280 I will return in five minutes if security could deal with the counsel.
00:04:41.480 Well, Miller didn't like that one bit, obviously.
00:04:44.420 Canadians are entitled to the truth.
00:04:47.460 And you can't hide behind unlawful redactions in a public inquiry claiming baseless redactions on staff or correspondence because it may hurt you.
00:04:59.800 We've made two, actually three technically, written applications with respect to these redacted documents in advance of the minister's testifying.
00:05:13.240 And the commission has failed or refused to rule on them.
00:05:17.840 And one of the other grounds of procedural fairness is for decisions without undue delay.
00:05:24.860 When decisions are not made on procedural issues of this importance, without undue delay, procedural fairness of not just my clients, but everyone's, is violated.
00:05:35.840 Canadians are entitled to the truth, and you can't hide behind unlawful redactions in a public inquiry claiming baseless redactions on staff or correspondence because it may hurt you.
00:05:51.280 And that, in my view, is what the government of Canada is doing.
00:05:56.320 And it needs to stop.
00:05:57.380 And had we had a timely ruling on these redactions, this application made orally today would have been entirely unnecessary.
00:06:07.720 Is it your expectation to continue?
00:06:08.940 Sorry, which the application for Alex Cohen would have been entirely unnecessary?
00:06:12.340 Correct.
00:06:13.080 Is it your expectation to continue in the proceedings today?
00:06:15.300 Yes.
00:06:15.680 Well, it's my client's constitutional right to have legal representation of their choice.
00:06:21.060 Is there another lawyer as part of the team that could step in for you if you're not allowed?
00:06:24.280 My client's choice is to have me.
00:06:25.780 And with respect to being thrown out of the building at the direction of the commissioner, there is no jurisdiction to do that either.
00:06:34.560 So, it is what it is.
00:06:36.980 We'll wait.
00:06:38.320 And we'll see.
00:06:39.300 Is that your next step, then?
00:06:40.220 You're just going to wait for some response from the commissioner now?
00:06:42.600 Response more so from security.
00:06:44.180 It's up to security whether or not I'm allowed in the building.
00:06:47.880 And it's up to the commissioner whether or not he'll abide by my client's constitutional right to have the lawyer of their choice
00:06:53.000 and the procedural fairness and constitutional right to be heard before the trepune.
00:06:56.820 Yes, sir.
00:06:57.460 But look, it's the judge's courtroom.
00:07:17.020 He's trying to balance a lot of things, a lot of lawyers, his own lawyers, each of the witnesses' lawyers.
00:07:22.360 Give the judge some leeway.
00:07:24.400 And there can only be one boss in the courtroom, and it is the judge, for better or worse.
00:07:28.700 I think having security escort Miller out of the room was a bit too much.
00:07:32.140 I think the judge could have just ordered him to sit down.
00:07:34.140 But I take all that as a sign that tempers are just a little bit frayed after a month of this.
00:07:38.460 I mean, remember, for every hour the commission sits, there's probably an hour of preparation and follow-up.
00:07:44.020 I bet everyone involved in this has been working 18 hours a day.
00:07:47.180 I'm not surprised a lawyer fainted the other day.
00:07:50.040 So you have a phone call at 1,300 hours, I think, with Deputy Minister Rob Stewart.
00:07:56.200 He says that there are 300 commercial CMV, that's commercial vehicles.
00:08:00.900 Yes.
00:08:01.140 Anyways, a few days ago, Miller had a bombshell.
00:08:22.060 He telegraphed that to us.
00:08:23.940 He said he had a doozy, but he wasn't able to tell the details to us in advance.
00:08:27.740 All the lawyers who have some standing with the commission have to follow certain rules of confidentiality.
00:08:32.940 They were given early access to documents so they can review them and prepare.
00:08:36.840 But in return, they must keep those documents confidential until they're formally released publicly through the commission's website.
00:08:43.520 So we didn't know what this bombshell would be.
00:08:47.800 Well, it was about one of the worst smears against the truckers that happened during the convoy.
00:08:52.440 As we know, the truckers were multiracial from English Canada and Quebec, people from all walks of life, peaceful, fun, patriotic, the bouncy castles, the hot tubs.
00:09:03.120 Trudeau wanted to demonize them as Nazis, but they just weren't.
00:09:07.460 Here's Ralph Goodale in a text.
00:09:09.080 He's an old liberal hack calling them neo-Nazis.
00:09:12.220 No basis other than his own bigotry.
00:09:14.460 He's projecting.
00:09:15.040 The liberals knew it wasn't true, but they knew they had to gin up that theory because they wanted to demonize their peaceful opponents.
00:09:23.680 They wanted them to be Nazis.
00:09:25.180 They needed them to be Nazis. 0.90
00:09:26.700 They weren't, so they did what they always do.
00:09:29.320 They make accusations and they sent in false flags.
00:09:33.580 Who was it?
00:09:35.120 Who were the Nazis who were there?
00:09:36.820 Some of these photos look like they were taken at the Chateau Laurier, the most prestigious, the most expensive, exclusive hotel in the city.
00:09:45.300 Were the neo-Nazis really, really staying there?
00:09:49.040 No one else saw that photo, saw that image in that photo.
00:09:52.760 I wonder where it came from.
00:09:54.000 I do know that the Chateau Laurier was where the RCMP were staying.
00:09:58.060 Isn't that funny?
00:09:59.580 They boasted about it in their RCMP WhatsApp groups.
00:10:02.680 That's where they were staying when they were running their ride horses.
00:10:04.900 They were feasting like kings on the taxpayer dime at the Chateau Laurier.
00:10:08.800 I wonder if some undercover cops were there and they were the Nazis.
00:10:12.600 It wouldn't surprise me.
00:10:13.520 It wouldn't be the first time either.
00:10:15.800 I mean, the supply of Nazis in Canada does not meet the demand for Nazis.
00:10:20.120 Trudeau's entire team wanted to demonize the truckers as Nazis.
00:10:24.360 Everyone saw through it.
00:10:26.040 But who was that guy who held the Nazi flag?
00:10:30.400 How could Cease this or the police not know?
00:10:32.320 Like, he was the one guy.
00:10:33.320 Well, I bet they do know.
00:10:35.940 I bet they do.
00:10:37.220 Just like the FBI knew all about Ray Epps in Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
00:10:43.320 Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol.
00:10:48.620 Into the Capitol.
00:10:50.180 Tomorrow?
00:10:51.720 I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.
00:10:53.900 Well, let's not say it.
00:10:54.600 We need to go.
00:10:56.440 I'll say it.
00:10:57.200 All right.
00:10:57.680 We need to go in.
00:10:58.940 Shut the fuck up, Boomer. 1.00
00:11:00.180 To the Capitol.
00:11:01.800 My president is good speaking.
00:11:04.820 We are going to the Capitol where our problems are.
00:11:09.180 It's that direction.
00:11:10.440 Yeah, look, we don't know who the Canadian Ray Epps was, but Brendan Miller, the lawyer,
00:11:17.700 said he did.
00:11:19.440 He said it was a man named Brian Fox, who was a senior executive for a public relations
00:11:25.400 firm called Enterprise Canada.
00:11:28.100 Well, that's stunning.
00:11:30.280 Enterprise Canada is a political firm.
00:11:32.480 Maybe it was a false flag operation conducted by a group of political dirty tricksters for,
00:11:38.540 who knows, the government, the Liberal Party.
00:11:40.900 At least we knew who it was who was smearing the truckers.
00:11:44.760 At last, we finally got the name.
00:11:47.000 Here's Brendan Miller raising the subject at the commission.
00:11:50.200 Were you aware that the first time that the picture of the gentleman, all covered in army
00:11:58.120 fatigues with a mask over his face, walking with a Confederate flag through a crowd, it 0.72
00:12:04.020 first appeared in an opinion piece in the Toronto Star from someone who actually works for the
00:12:10.760 Liberal Party of Canada?
00:12:13.180 Were you aware of that?
00:12:14.480 Mr. Commissioner, my friend seems to be giving evidence now.
00:12:18.380 I'm asking if he's aware of me.
00:12:19.440 He asked a question, and I can guess at what the answer is going to be.
00:12:23.920 Okay, but there's a presupposition of a fact that's not an evidence.
00:12:27.160 Yeah, because you keep interrupting me when I try to ask questions, and I'm running out of time.
00:12:33.320 Just, please.
00:12:35.600 Okay.
00:12:36.500 I'm not aware of the articles, and I'm not aware of those facts that you mentioned.
00:12:40.660 I'm sorry.
00:12:41.340 Are you aware of a company called Enterprise Canada?
00:12:44.480 Not specifically, no.
00:12:48.940 And have you identified the individual, one that is, it was all over the news, the gentleman
00:12:54.820 that was carrying the Nazi flag?
00:12:57.740 Have you identified him yet?
00:13:00.380 Mr. Commissioner, as I've said before, the specific details of our investigations have
00:13:05.700 been shared, you know, with the commission earlier.
00:13:08.880 I would not be able to go into more specific details.
00:13:11.760 So I think that's it.
00:13:12.700 Yeah, no, and I take it, and I take it then, sir, that you know that that individual was
00:13:21.160 Brian Fox from Enterprise Group.
00:13:22.800 I have not said anything of that respect to counsel.
00:13:26.940 I have not testified to that counsel.
00:13:29.760 He named Brian Fox of Enterprise Canada.
00:13:32.400 Got him.
00:13:33.180 Got the dirty trickster.
00:13:34.320 And not just that, but Brendan Miller wanted to subpoena him, to call him under oath, to
00:13:42.200 ask him all about it.
00:13:43.060 That's a great idea.
00:13:43.760 I mean, remember, this whole Emergencies Act thing was because the liberals claimed it was
00:13:48.800 violent extremists coming to overthrow the government.
00:13:52.280 Imagine if they had arranged somehow to plant that Nazi protester, like a false flag, and then 0.70
00:13:58.100 you catch the guy and he revealed the whole conspiracy.
00:14:00.960 Who set him up to it?
00:14:01.800 Who put him up to it?
00:14:02.480 Now, Brendan Miller had trouble going further on this.
00:14:05.320 The judge wouldn't let him.
00:14:06.740 The judge shut him down.
00:14:07.820 Miller wanted to subpoena Brian Fox, interrogate him.
00:14:11.240 And Miller has his own witness, a live witness, who saw Brian Fox that day.
00:14:18.540 Sean Folks is his name.
00:14:21.080 He has an affidavit swearing it's true.
00:14:23.720 Sean Folks.
00:14:25.300 And frankly, Miller wanted to call Sean Folks also his witness.
00:14:28.700 Uh, I don't know.
00:14:31.900 This was extremely exciting.
00:14:33.060 I thought this was an exciting story.
00:14:35.120 Bombshell indeed.
00:14:36.980 And Brendan Miller had so many bombshells this past month, he really did have the goods
00:14:41.260 on so many politicians and bureaucrats and politicized cops.
00:14:45.020 So if Brendan Miller says he's got the proof and he's willing to say it in this judicial
00:14:49.880 forum and willing to call witnesses, you better believe that I'm paying attention and every
00:14:54.100 rebel news viewer ought to.
00:14:56.900 So we ran that story big time.
00:14:58.700 But you know our practice.
00:14:59.740 We like to reach out to the other side just to make sure they have their say in the story
00:15:03.320 too.
00:15:03.600 But really, what's left to ask?
00:15:05.800 Eyewitness, sworn affidavit.
00:15:07.660 Miller has been right every time so far.
00:15:09.920 But I don't know.
00:15:11.420 Brian Fox and Enterprise Canada, they disagreed with this.
00:15:15.120 They were pretty fast.
00:15:15.860 They put out a statement before we even reached out to them.
00:15:18.040 They immediately put this up on their website.
00:15:22.460 Today, in the scope of the Emergencies Act inquiry, Brendan Miller, the lawyer representing
00:15:27.140 Freedom Corp, made an entirely unsubstantiated and deeply offensive accusation against Enterprise
00:15:32.740 Canada principal Brian Fox.
00:15:34.460 For the record, there is no truth to this absurd and despicable accusation.
00:15:38.560 Neither Brian Fox nor anyone from Enterprise Canada was in attendance at the Freedom Convoy
00:15:43.900 protests in any capacity.
00:15:45.760 Mr. Fox was in Toronto for the duration of these protests and had no involvement in them.
00:15:50.660 Now, that's pretty categorical.
00:15:54.120 There's no wiggle room words there.
00:15:57.220 Someone has their facts wrong.
00:16:00.540 Either Brian Fox or Brendan Miller in his eyewitness.
00:16:04.520 Now, Fox's company added some more details later saying, Brian Fox has not been in Ottawa since
00:16:09.700 2019.
00:16:11.800 Brian Fox has not been involved with the Liberal Party of Canada or Freedom Convoy protests in
00:16:16.460 any way.
00:16:17.160 In fact, I'm told he's a Pierre Polyev supporter who was last in Ottawa three years ago for the
00:16:23.460 Manning Center Conference.
00:16:24.760 It's a conservative conference.
00:16:25.920 But really, a senior executive in a national communications firm, the idea that he would
00:16:31.220 dress up as a Nazi to do a false flag dirty trick at a trucker convoy, it's implausible.
00:16:37.380 Really, you're going to get a senior VP kind of guy doing that?
00:16:39.840 That's the kind of thing that a young college kid might be convinced to do by a dirty trickster.
00:16:43.900 But a businessman in his 50s or 60s?
00:16:47.740 I don't know.
00:16:49.440 Well, Miller was adamant.
00:16:53.140 We had made application days and days and days ago.
00:16:58.980 The commission consistently directs that we are to make motions and write.
00:17:04.000 So we do so.
00:17:05.680 We currently have two outstanding.
00:17:07.000 The first is dealing with all of these redactions that the government of Canada has put on all
00:17:14.620 of the staffers' correspondence, as well of the notes of Ms. Katie Talvert, the Chief of
00:17:21.360 Staff to the Prime Minister.
00:17:23.280 They have redacted these documents claiming they are irrelevant or that they are in fact
00:17:29.520 subject to a cabinet confidence, despite the fact that the law is abundantly clear and undeniably
00:17:36.360 clear that cabinet confidence does not apply to political staffers.
00:17:41.020 These include the notes of Sarah Jackson, who is the office manager of Katie Telford, discussing
00:17:49.880 the Emergencies Act, discussing the protests, discussing what they're going to do.
00:17:55.040 These include the email responses from Minister Blair to his own Chief of Staff about why he
00:18:04.940 did not accept the advice of law enforcement to carry out the plan that was before the IRG.
00:18:11.680 The Government of Canada has continuously and every day dropped hundreds of documents on
00:18:21.560 the parties.
00:18:22.180 And the parties are frustrated.
00:18:23.360 It is not just myself.
00:18:25.860 They have tried to turn this entire proceeding into an inquiry about the failures of Chief
00:18:32.140 Slally, as opposed to actually about the invocation of the Emergencies Act.
00:18:38.500 And my duty to my clients, and my duty as a lawyer, is to uncover the truth.
00:18:44.240 We have also applied, and we applied before I asked the questions, with respect to Mr.
00:18:50.480 Brian Fox, to have him compelled as a witness.
00:18:53.240 And we did that in writing.
00:18:55.840 We applied to also now have Mr. I believe it's David Chan, who we found out was the individual
00:19:03.000 who actually took the photos of the gentleman carrying the Confederate flag, of which he is
00:19:11.100 also the photographer for the Prime Minister.
00:19:13.440 David Chan's not the photographer.
00:19:16.200 Well, I would disagree with you if you have an official photographer.
00:19:22.220 Well, I understand there's an official photographer.
00:19:25.720 Yeah, but that's not him.
00:19:28.000 Why you've named Brian Fox?
00:19:30.280 Because we have a witness in our application that can, who had met the person with the
00:19:35.980 flag, all right, on the day he was running around with it, and can identify him as Mr.
00:19:42.460 Fox.
00:19:42.640 Who's that person?
00:19:43.620 It's in the application, and I'm not allowed to say yet, because they won't release it to
00:19:47.120 you.
00:19:47.680 Our applications that we have made, our applications that we have made have still not been released
00:19:54.320 by the commission.
00:19:55.180 Are you worried about getting sued, sir?
00:19:56.740 No, I'm not.
00:19:57.920 Because guess what?
00:19:59.360 Truth is a full defense, and we also have privileges for things of which we say in a courtroom.
00:20:05.800 And the reason that that exists is so that lawyers can do their job, and witnesses can
00:20:11.780 tell the truth.
00:20:12.500 I don't care about Enterprise's little announcement yesterday.
00:20:18.180 I could care less.
00:20:19.780 If they want to bring that, I would be happy to do so, and defend it, and get discovery,
00:20:26.340 and get their records.
00:20:27.280 What are your odds of getting at the truth on this sidewalk?
00:20:31.120 Well, I can tell you the odds of getting at the truth, and a commissioner who has no
00:20:35.680 compulsion powers, at law, directing that I leave a building, a government building where
00:20:42.560 I am counsel to a client whose rights to counsel are constitutionally protected.
00:20:49.700 Well, you're challenging his authority.
00:20:51.440 Well, I understand that.
00:20:53.440 And I'm challenging the lawfulness of what's going on.
00:20:56.700 All right, I'll bite.
00:20:58.180 Who is this witness?
00:21:00.360 What does the affidavit say?
00:21:02.960 Well, let's take a look at it.
00:21:04.100 I'll read from it.
00:21:05.300 It's the affidavit of Sean Folks.
00:21:06.820 He says, I approached the person who was carrying the Nazi flag on January 29, 2022, and I attempted
00:21:14.660 to speak with him.
00:21:17.400 On November 21, 2022, I went onto the website for Enterprise Canada and found Brian Fox's
00:21:23.040 profile thereon, including a photo of him attached to your two and marked as Exhibit B as a true
00:21:27.960 copy of a screenshot of the profile of Brian Fox from the Enterprise Canada website.
00:21:32.220 I can confirm that Brian Fox is the man I met with the Nazi flag on January 29, 2022. 0.88
00:21:39.860 So this guy, this witness, Sean Folks, says he spoke with a Nazi flag guy.
00:21:44.320 He spoke with a Nazi flag in January, but I don't think he took any notes.
00:21:49.000 He certainly didn't take any photos.
00:21:50.440 He just sort of saw him in January and spoke briefly with him.
00:21:53.500 And then in November, just a few days ago, he happens to look at the Enterprise Canada website,
00:22:00.040 sees the photo of Brian Fox, and says, that's him.
00:22:02.580 Ten months later, you talk with someone briefly, no notes, no photos, no video.
00:22:08.360 He's wearing a mask.
00:22:09.280 And then ten months later, you look at a website photo, and who knows how old or accurate that
00:22:14.900 website photo might be.
00:22:16.400 And you say, that's him, absolutely, I'll swear on a Bible.
00:22:20.820 Now, you're not really an expert at these things.
00:22:22.720 You're not trained in these things, but you're sure of it, even though the Nazi guy was wearing 0.78
00:22:28.240 a mask.
00:22:30.260 How sure are you?
00:22:31.560 How sure are you?
00:22:32.880 How credible is the witness?
00:22:34.220 Who is Sean Folks?
00:22:36.200 Well, his affidavit describes him as a political activist, pages and pages of how he fights
00:22:41.720 political battles, and a bit of an attention-seeking in other ways, too, in his affidavit.
00:22:47.940 He talks about his father inventing the musical genre of reggae, talks about his accomplished
00:22:53.640 family.
00:22:54.080 I'm not sure what any of that has to do with him himself or Brian Fox or what he saw.
00:22:59.000 But his affidavit sort of paints a picture about Sean Folks, as in, is he really a disinterested
00:23:05.780 witness just coming forward with the facts?
00:23:07.600 Or is he someone who wants to be part of the excitement, someone with a bit of an axe to
00:23:12.160 grind, someone who wants to be internet famous, wants to be in the fight, someone with political
00:23:16.780 ambitions?
00:23:18.160 It's a bit different, isn't it?
00:23:20.540 But here's a surprise.
00:23:21.780 Sean Folks actually did make a video record of what he saw back when it happened or right
00:23:29.200 afterwards.
00:23:29.980 I wonder if he forgot that he did that.
00:23:32.640 See, when he was in Ottawa at the Convoy, he talked to an independent citizen journalist
00:23:36.240 who happened to be live streaming from down at the Convoy.
00:23:40.760 Here's a video published back at the time.
00:23:43.980 I'll start with the part where Sean Folks identifies himself.
00:23:46.800 You'll see this is the guy.
00:23:48.620 You hear that?
00:23:49.040 That's what we're here, guys.
00:23:49.820 Freedom.
00:23:50.920 What's my name?
00:23:52.220 You guys can look me up.
00:23:53.500 My name is Sean, S-H-A-W-U-N, Folks, F-O-L-K-E-S. 1.00
00:23:57.920 Now, when you bring up my last name, you might bring up my sister because she's the head of
00:24:01.360 acquisitions and procurements.
00:24:03.740 Okay, she's buying fighter jets for the military, Paula Folks D'Alaire.
00:24:07.100 You might bring up my dad, John Folks, my father.
00:24:10.340 And if you bring his name up, he's the founding father, the guy who started reggae music.
00:24:14.060 Really?
00:24:14.660 Yeah.
00:24:14.820 Really?
00:24:15.220 Holy crap.
00:24:15.600 Yeah, O Carolina.
00:24:16.500 That's my dad's song.
00:24:17.320 And you can find out the history of it.
00:24:18.820 Because now, like, people can't say, oh, you're bullshitting because they can do their
00:24:21.460 Google research.
00:24:22.380 So that's him.
00:24:23.040 He actually seems like a nice guy.
00:24:24.340 I bet he's a rebel news viewer.
00:24:26.360 He mentioned that reggae thing, didn't he?
00:24:28.220 He's proud of that.
00:24:29.420 And, you know, he got some things right.
00:24:31.300 He pointed out the military snipers in Ottawa.
00:24:34.540 That was true.
00:24:35.260 And he talked about drones overhead.
00:24:37.460 That was true also.
00:24:38.560 Police drones.
00:24:39.320 And believe it or not, the Canadian Armed Forces drone, too.
00:24:41.540 He sounded a bit wild saying it then, but we now know it's 100% true.
00:24:47.120 And you know what's the interesting thing?
00:24:48.660 Is you guys have no idea how they're watching us.
00:24:50.920 We're being watched by drone right now.
00:24:52.580 I have these really crazy binoculars.
00:24:55.120 I spotted three snipers.
00:24:57.340 Really?
00:24:57.960 Yeah.
00:24:58.400 That could, you know, fall asleep behind his trigger and pull that trigger and one of us
00:25:01.800 is dead, right?
00:25:02.640 Yeah.
00:25:03.820 Why do they got snipers?
00:25:04.920 I'm all for Canadian snipers if they're against our enemies.
00:25:07.620 But the last time I seen them, I can't remember the last time Canadian had enemies.
00:25:10.160 He's, yeah.
00:25:11.240 I like this guy.
00:25:12.700 And he's living proof that this was a diverse group of Canadians, these truckers. 1.00
00:25:16.740 Sean Folks himself was certainly no Nazi.
00:25:19.400 But let me get to the important part.
00:25:21.240 Here's a full minute where Folks describes his encounter with the Nazi guy.
00:25:26.920 Very interesting.
00:25:29.240 So, the media says there's racism here.
00:25:33.080 Is there racism?
00:25:34.040 Okay, let me tell you something about that.
00:25:36.020 It's funny that you ran into me of all people.
00:25:38.140 Only me, apparently.
00:25:38.780 Okay?
00:25:39.180 I was here the first day at Ground Zero.
00:25:41.900 I actually spoke on stage.
00:25:43.480 I actually saw the guy with the swastika flag.
00:25:46.160 So, it was a real thing.
00:25:47.440 It was a real thing.
00:25:48.360 But this is what they didn't tell you.
00:25:50.360 He was going around with the flag saying, is this what you want for our country?
00:25:54.360 Really?
00:25:54.800 This is what Trudeau is going to turn our flag into if we allow this draconian fascism to
00:25:59.000 continue.
00:26:00.060 Is this what you want the maple leaf to be replaced by?
00:26:03.360 This is what we're heading to, people.
00:26:04.800 And he was speaking with a European accent.
00:26:06.960 So, I'm thinking that he came from a country that knows about fascism.
00:26:09.800 Because we don't know it.
00:26:11.020 You know, we're just oblivious to it.
00:26:12.560 And we don't see the slow, incremental movements that they're making towards this total, you know,
00:26:19.120 I don't know even what to call it.
00:26:22.040 So, the Nazi thing was apparently ironic? 0.59
00:26:25.560 As in a warning of what Trudeau was going to do to Canada?
00:26:29.340 What an absurd thing to say.
00:26:30.880 That sounds like a lie.
00:26:32.220 A lie told by the Nazi guy. 0.64
00:26:33.800 I mean, I'm sure he did say that lie to the Sean folks.
00:26:37.680 Imagine showing up with a mask and a Nazi flag and then claiming you're just being ironic.
00:26:41.720 And you're accusing Trudeau of that.
00:26:44.560 You're not trying to taint the whole protest.
00:26:48.840 I don't buy the Nazis' excuse. 0.91
00:26:50.520 Obviously, it was a false flag designed to smear the truckers.
00:26:53.100 But did you hear that key part?
00:26:55.200 The Nazi flag guy spoke to Sean folks in a European accent, by which I'm sure folks means 0.56
00:27:01.240 Eastern European, like Russian or Polish or Czech or something, and claimed to be talking
00:27:06.840 about fascism from experience.
00:27:09.180 Okay, maybe.
00:27:12.100 But whatever the substance of the Nazi flag guy's comments, if he spoke with an accent,
00:27:17.440 well, Brian Fox was born in Windsor, Ontario.
00:27:21.660 Doesn't have an accent at all, actually.
00:27:25.140 I'm not saying Sean folks lied in his affidavit.
00:27:27.640 I'm saying it's much more likely that he forgot 10 months later about that detail of the accent.
00:27:32.280 Or more to the point, he's never met or spoken with Brian Fox.
00:27:35.340 He just looked at a photo of him, so he simply didn't know that Brian Fox does not speak with
00:27:40.140 an accent.
00:27:40.700 I mean, seriously, he never even saw the face of the Nazi guy.
00:27:44.780 And he was looking at a corporate website photo of Brian Fox.
00:27:48.260 Imagine trying to compare those two things 10 months apart with great certainty.
00:27:52.760 What a joke.
00:27:53.980 If he really did meet Brian Fox in person, he'd have heard the Canadian accent and known
00:27:58.980 it wasn't him.
00:28:00.620 Couldn't have been him.
00:28:03.140 Take a look at this.
00:28:04.660 You ever made a mistake?
00:28:06.420 Everyone has made a mistake.
00:28:07.400 I make tons of them all the time.
00:28:08.780 That's how I learn.
00:28:09.600 The government's making mistakes, but they're not learning from them.
00:28:12.420 You're right.
00:28:13.620 Yeah, he's right.
00:28:15.260 Do you ever make a mistake?
00:28:16.180 Of course we all make mistakes.
00:28:17.520 That's how we learn.
00:28:18.440 That's right.
00:28:19.020 He's right.
00:28:19.420 That's sort of obvious.
00:28:21.460 Sean folks made a mistake.
00:28:22.860 But Brendan Miller made a mistake, too.
00:28:26.380 I hate saying that because Brendan Miller has been the MVP in these Trucker Commission
00:28:31.540 proceedings.
00:28:32.580 He's asked the best questions in the best ways.
00:28:36.000 But this, this wasn't the best.
00:28:38.920 This was wobbly.
00:28:40.560 To begin with, Brian Fox immediately denied it was him.
00:28:44.400 Denied he was in Ottawa.
00:28:45.820 He was in Toronto.
00:28:47.540 He said he hadn't been to Ottawa in years.
00:28:50.020 He said he's a pro-conservative guy, if that matters.
00:28:52.940 And really, do you really think a senior business executive would do a dirty trick prank like
00:28:58.600 this, even if he was motivated by malice, and even if he was in town and had the opportunity?
00:29:03.820 And the proof, a foggy memory of a guy who briefly spoke with him 10 months ago, and then
00:29:09.800 was shown a corporate PR website photo of him.
00:29:13.080 Come on.
00:29:13.520 That's your affidavit?
00:29:15.120 And that's the basis?
00:29:16.420 You're calling a man a Nazi guy in public?
00:29:20.980 Now, we reported Brendan Miller's accusation when it was made because it was news, very
00:29:25.640 newsy.
00:29:26.380 It was made in a judicial inquiry about matters in the public interest.
00:29:30.100 It just was news.
00:29:31.840 And we immediately published Brian Fox's refutation of it.
00:29:36.120 But I won't lie, even though a flat denial is pretty powerful, I was still tending to believe
00:29:41.520 it.
00:29:41.680 Miller has done just such a good job this past month, and I couldn't believe he would say
00:29:46.620 something so powerful without some real evidence.
00:29:49.880 We ran Brian Fox's response because that's the journalist's thing to do.
00:29:54.320 But I got to tell you, I still believed on the balance of probabilities that he was the
00:29:58.920 guy.
00:29:59.300 I mean, I just couldn't believe Brendan Miller would say something without proof.
00:30:03.260 But I have to say, I cannot say that now.
00:30:05.500 Now that I've read the affidavit, the foggy memory of a guy 10 months ago who said on a
00:30:11.600 contemporaneous video that the Nazi guy had a European accent, that's it?
00:30:16.880 That's all you got?
00:30:17.720 That's all your evidence?
00:30:18.840 No.
00:30:19.360 There's a reason why police traditionally have had a lineup of five or six similar-looking
00:30:25.100 suspects when an eyewitness is asked to identify them.
00:30:27.900 Because it's bloody important to get the right guy, more important than how it was treated
00:30:33.700 by the commission.
00:30:36.360 Now, it's not enough, and it's not right.
00:30:38.540 I know what it's like to be called names unfairly.
00:30:41.140 I'm Jewish, but because I'm conservative, you know, here's an example.
00:30:48.280 The disgraceful Gerald Butts, the advisor to Justin Trudeau, his friend since childhood.
00:30:55.760 I mean, I'm called a Nazi.
00:30:58.700 Trudeau's corrupt henchman, disgraced lobbyist.
00:31:02.860 I'm a Jew, but he calls me a Nazi.
00:31:04.480 Now, I can brush that off more easily than most.
00:31:07.680 It really is absurd to call a Jew like me a Nazi.
00:31:09.900 But Brian Fox, I can only imagine what it's like to be tarred that way.
00:31:15.940 He had nothing to do with this whole thing.
00:31:18.000 He wasn't even in the city, but some foggy memory guy says for sure it's him, so it's
00:31:22.620 him.
00:31:23.040 Look, part of Rebel News is championing the cause of freedom.
00:31:27.340 That's why we support the truckers.
00:31:29.360 That's why we support the trucker lawyers, including Brendan Miller and his great team.
00:31:34.320 If you don't know, Rebel News constantly promotes the JCCF, and I always buy tickets to their
00:31:39.740 fundraising dinners.
00:31:40.980 Their boss, John Carpe, will be a speaker at our big Rebel News Live conference in Calgary
00:31:45.600 this weekend.
00:31:46.480 I love the JCCF.
00:31:47.820 And as you've heard me say all month, my favorite new lawyer there is Brendan Miller.
00:31:52.620 He's doing a great job at the commission, but he got this one wrong.
00:31:56.440 Maybe he just wanted it too much, so he didn't look at countervailing facts.
00:32:00.880 Maybe he just knew in his bones that the government did set this up, and he forced the facts to
00:32:07.040 fit his theory.
00:32:07.860 I don't know.
00:32:08.300 I can imagine he's under stress and pressure, and he's sleep-deprived too.
00:32:12.900 We like the JCCF and Brendan Miller, but we also have a duty to our viewers to tell the
00:32:17.800 truth, a duty to our own conscience.
00:32:21.020 Oh, believe me, we wanted to find out the identity of that Nazi guy as much as Miller did.
00:32:25.520 And when he made the accusation, we reported it with some gusto, but now three days later,
00:32:31.340 we can't.
00:32:32.400 It's just obviously not true.
00:32:34.740 Miller raised the question again obliquely today with Chrystia Freeland.
00:32:38.720 He didn't name Brian Fox, but he said the Nazi flag waiver was a government plant.
00:32:46.180 I do think the Nazi flag waiver was a government plant, because if he were real, we would know 0.98
00:32:52.300 his name, address, phone number, and bank account like we know that information for 1,000 truckers
00:32:57.620 and their donors to the GoFundMe.
00:32:59.480 The banks would have frozen the Nazi flag waiver's bank account.
00:33:03.640 The media party would be doing biographies on his whole family and all his friends, and
00:33:07.520 we'd know everyone he'd follow on social media.
00:33:09.200 The fact that we don't know who the Nazi flag guy is tells me that he was Canada's version 1.00
00:33:15.040 of Ray Epps, a government plant, an undercover cop maybe, but I'll tell you, it was not
00:33:19.820 Brian Fox.
00:33:20.540 I think Brian Fox deserves from Brendan Miller a retraction, a correction, and an apology,
00:33:28.340 not just for the sake of Brian Fox's reputation, but for the sake of Brendan Miller's reputation.
00:33:34.940 Here at Rebel News, we work hard to get it right.
00:33:39.080 You know, when you publish 20 stories a day under time pressure, you're not always going
00:33:43.360 to get it right.
00:33:44.280 A few times a year, we get it wrong, and once in a while, we have to apologize.
00:33:49.500 Eat some crow.
00:33:50.780 It is not tasty, but it is the right thing to do, and it's also a message.
00:33:55.040 If we apologize when we make an error, that's a signal that you can trust what we do and
00:34:01.880 say the rest of the time because we'll admit it when we're wrong.
00:34:06.620 Saying sorry once in a while actually improves your reputation for accuracy the rest of the
00:34:11.080 time, we've been the top boosters of Brendan Miller and his team all month, and I've literally
00:34:18.700 never met or heard of Brian Fox until three days ago, but we owe it to our readers to correct
00:34:25.180 the record and to our viewers and to call upon our champion, Brendan Miller, to correct the record
00:34:30.580 too.
00:34:30.880 Brian Fox did not do that terrible thing, and just as it is wrong for the truckers to
00:34:37.620 be demonized for political purposes of Trudeau, it's wrong for our side to do the same to Brian
00:34:43.600 Fox too.
00:34:45.020 Stay with us for more.
00:34:52.380 Well, I'm so glad we're doing this Trucker Commission coverage the way we are.
00:34:55.960 As you know, we've rented an Airbnb in downtown Ottawa, not far from where the commission hearings
00:35:01.540 are.
00:35:01.920 I'm really glad we did that.
00:35:02.900 It's so walkable.
00:35:03.840 It's actually faster to walk from our Airbnb to the commission than even to call a cab.
00:35:08.700 It's so close.
00:35:09.960 It's got four bedrooms so our reporters can stay there. 0.97
00:35:12.400 It's almost like a fraternity house, but instead of for partying, it's for working.
00:35:16.700 Our team is going around the clock.
00:35:18.240 I have to give credit to the commission of inquiry.
00:35:20.200 I have never heard of a court keeping these hours before.
00:35:24.800 I mean, courts often start at 9.30 or 10, and they often wrap up at 5.
00:35:30.160 It's not unusual for this commission of inquiry to go to 7 p.m. or later because they are on
00:35:35.580 a very tight deadline.
00:35:36.920 So I give credit not just to the commission staff and lawyers, but to the judge himself.
00:35:41.740 It cannot be easiest.
00:35:43.960 And to stay focused and attentive.
00:35:46.360 I'm the kind of guy I start to daydream and my mind wanders.
00:35:50.120 It must take a very strong attention span to follow things.
00:35:53.060 And I'm not saying he's got everything right, but I think he's got most things right.
00:35:57.260 And I'm actually optimistic, and maybe that'll be proven to be naive, that I actually believe
00:36:02.320 that some public system can hold Trudeau to account when he has corrupted so many public
00:36:08.640 systems.
00:36:09.080 I mean, the people handpicked by Trudeau acted like it.
00:36:13.140 You saw his CSIS advisor, his security advisor, the head of the RCMP, all the people that
00:36:19.360 he personally chose completely lying for him.
00:36:22.920 It was disgraceful.
00:36:24.240 Marco Mendocino and David Lamedi yesterday.
00:36:26.980 Just the ones who are put in place by Trudeau are loyal to Trudeau, not to the country.
00:36:32.520 It's quite depressing.
00:36:33.800 I hope that this judge is independent enough to do the right thing.
00:36:39.420 How possibly could a judge find that the legal test for martial law was met?
00:36:45.120 Oh, a political test, maybe a journalistic test, a feelings test.
00:36:49.420 Sure, sure, sure.
00:36:50.280 But that's not the law in Canada.
00:36:53.000 That's the law of wokeness, I guess.
00:36:54.960 But will the law be upheld?
00:36:56.560 We'll find out.
00:36:57.140 As I said over the course of the weeks, it's like the Commission of Acquire is moving towards
00:37:02.600 the bullseye from the outer rings of people who really weren't that involved, moving in
00:37:07.320 to police and then cabinet.
00:37:09.520 And today it was Chrystia Freeland, the deputy prime minister, and Katie Telford, who I believe
00:37:14.900 was the chief of staff.
00:37:15.720 So we're really in the inner circle.
00:37:17.440 And then tomorrow we get to the bullseye himself.
00:37:20.860 Justin Trudeau will take the stand.
00:37:23.520 He's a dramatic actor.
00:37:25.240 He's a thespian.
00:37:26.900 We know that.
00:37:27.660 He loves to play dress up and he loves to put on his dramatic actor voice.
00:37:31.300 It'll be interesting to see if he can hold up under cross-examination because normally
00:37:34.920 when he does his dramatic actor routine, it's a soliloquy.
00:37:38.500 It's a unilateral speech and press that he largely owns or rents, just take notes.
00:37:45.960 It'll be interesting to see how he handles cross-examination from adverse lawyers.
00:37:50.760 I don't know how that'll go.
00:37:51.860 It'll probably be more duck speaking, just fog to kill the time.
00:37:56.520 He'll try and run out the clock.
00:37:59.000 That's, I think, the chief tactic of the government because, like I say, this commission has a hard
00:38:04.160 end date.
00:38:05.180 So any shenanigans in a real court could result in a delay or more hearings, but not this.
00:38:10.780 So I think Trudeau will simply try and run out the clock.
00:38:13.660 Well, Chrystia Freeland is the deputy prime minister, and in some ways I think she's become
00:38:19.580 the de facto prime minister because Trudeau just likes mascot-type things.
00:38:24.460 He likes being a spokesmodel.
00:38:26.380 He loves doing the foreign trips.
00:38:28.000 He loves cutting ribbons and shaking hands.
00:38:31.480 That's not just my opinion.
00:38:32.660 That's how he described himself before the ethics commissioner.
00:38:35.260 He was accused and convicted of taking an illegal gift of a $100,000 secret vacation to Billionaire
00:38:43.300 Island in the Bahamas, and his excuse was, sure, the man who gave me the vacation, the
00:38:48.440 Aga Khan, was a lobbyist.
00:38:50.360 Sure, we paid him hundreds of millions of dollars, but I didn't know about any of that.
00:38:54.020 I don't know any of the details of business.
00:38:55.700 I'm just there for relationships.
00:38:58.080 I think there's some truth to that.
00:38:59.440 I think that Justin Trudeau is an empty vessel, and Chrystia Freeland is actually the hands-on
00:39:04.740 prime minister in many ways.
00:39:06.820 She took the stand today, and our own Alexa Lavoie was covering it, live tweeting it.
00:39:12.440 She is at the Airbnb in Ottawa and joins us now.
00:39:16.100 Alexa, great to see you again.
00:39:17.500 Thank you for being there.
00:39:18.400 We're really down to the final days in the inquiry.
00:39:21.900 The most important people are there.
00:39:23.540 I'm really glad you're there.
00:39:25.400 Tell me what it was like.
00:39:26.900 How was Chrystia Freeland?
00:39:28.460 What was her tone, her temperament?
00:39:30.460 Was she in that lecturing mode that she sometimes gets?
00:39:34.200 Did she answer questions plainly and directly?
00:39:37.360 What was it like?
00:39:39.400 I would say because I arrived really at the end of the commission.
00:39:44.200 Only two days left.
00:39:46.320 But I was capable to feel that people is getting tired.
00:39:51.600 And it's something that we were able to feel in the room.
00:39:59.320 Chrystia Freeland arrived by walk.
00:40:01.280 I was pretty surprised that she didn't take a car or anything.
00:40:05.220 But she arrived.
00:40:06.280 She was pretty calm, I would say.
00:40:08.420 But it was really interesting to see her in front of really tough questions, trying to avoid or she was saying a lot of different things that was not making sense to, I think, gaining some time to answer to the question.
00:40:28.040 So this is something that we were able to see.
00:40:31.360 Now, you've chosen three clips to look at, and this will be my first time looking at them.
00:40:38.360 These were selected by you and the team there.
00:40:40.940 Your live tweeting events were live streaming the whole proceedings.
00:40:45.460 Plus, we're cutting video clips during the day.
00:40:47.480 And then at night, we have a wrap up.
00:40:49.280 There really are a lot of things happening at truckercommission.com.
00:40:53.220 I'm really pleased with it.
00:40:54.120 This first video, clip number one, is talking about a text exchange with an American owner of a steel company that's based in Hamilton.
00:41:05.860 Let's take a look at this clip and then let's talk about it.
00:41:08.220 I know it sucks politically to back down and reverse course, but it does really pay to carry on the policy, or does it really pay, I'm sorry, to carry on the policy in support of a mandate for a vaccine that doesn't prevent the spread of Omicron and which seems to be vanishing naturally anyway.
00:41:24.940 Moreover, this could create a resurgence of the right wing, just like it did in America.
00:41:29.500 Anyway, I know this is a massive headache for you, but it could be solved by retreating and letting it fade away from everyone's memory.
00:41:35.480 Just sharing my views, hoping the spreading disruption gets resolved quickly.
00:41:40.360 You know, I think what he says there, and he runs Stelco in Hamilton.
00:41:48.200 He is American, though, and U.S.-based.
00:41:52.340 What he was saying at the beginning about onshoring and relocating to the U.S., that's what I was talking about earlier today.
00:42:01.700 And I kind of highlight that for all of us here, just to kind of make clear to everyone that for people whose bread and butter, whose livelihoods were in the U.S. trade-exposed industries, their immediate conclusion, you didn't have to think about it,
00:42:27.160 but the immediate conclusion from the blockage of trade was the Americans are going to respond by cutting us out.
00:42:36.720 And then in terms of Alan's proposal,
00:42:40.900 I didn't debate it with him.
00:42:46.420 I don't think that it's, I think that the relevant information for me from him wasn't for him to tell me what the right solution was.
00:43:01.660 Yeah, because he was saying the obvious, why are you bringing this vaccine mandate for truckers so late in the game when we all know that the vaccine isn't stopping Omicron from spreading?
00:43:11.240 Why are you doing this political theater? If anything, you're going to radicalize things.
00:43:16.040 I think Alan, who apparently is in charge of Stelco in Hamilton, had some good advice for her, but she wasn't interested in that.
00:43:24.060 The idea that Hamilton's steel factory would shut down and move to America, I mean, that may happen eventually.
00:43:32.180 I have no idea, probably for other reasons, the reasons that other steel plants have closed in Canada.
00:43:37.860 But it absolutely was not affected. There was no blockade in Hamilton.
00:43:43.340 The steel in Hamilton is used in Canada. I think that that's grasping.
00:43:47.760 But let's say she's right. Let's say this trucker convoy would make the owner of that Stelco factory say,
00:43:56.800 I'm going to move it to the United States. He didn't say that. In fact, he said,
00:43:59.860 what are you doing with your ridiculous vaccine mandate?
00:44:02.540 But let's say her attempt to say, oh, no, no, this is a threat to trade.
00:44:08.100 A threat to trade is not a listed ground to bring in martial law.
00:44:14.220 Under the Emergencies Act, you have to have one of two things.
00:44:17.880 A threat, a danger to the people of Canada or a danger to the sovereignty of Canada, like a revolution or an invasion.
00:44:25.700 And part two, this is so important, something that can't be dealt with by regular laws.
00:44:33.240 So a trade dispute that may or may not happen and that didn't happen is not grounds.
00:44:39.180 And even if it did, you know, you solve the blockade with regular laws, which it was in the case of the Windsor Bridge.
00:44:46.720 And even if you didn't, even if that Stelco factory moved to the United States, which was not proposed in this text message from Alan,
00:44:55.440 even if that were to happen, you don't say, well, there's my justification for bringing in martial law.
00:45:01.260 I think Chrystia Freeland is far too easy to say, yeah, martial law, because my job was difficult for a day.
00:45:08.780 Martial law is the solution. 1.00
00:45:10.000 But the blockade was dismantled before they invoked the Emergencies Act, no?
00:45:19.280 Yeah.
00:45:19.500 So they have the power to already dismantle some blockade.
00:45:25.720 So that just proved that it was overused to invoke the Emergencies Act since no blockade was there anymore.
00:45:34.560 And it was only Ottawa that was still up.
00:45:37.300 You know, I think Chrystia Freeland is an ideologue. 1.00
00:45:42.400 I think she really doesn't care about civil liberties.
00:45:45.680 She's more used to the global billionaire set.
00:45:47.900 In fact, she wrote a book about billionaires.
00:45:50.160 She was, before she became a member of parliament, she was actually the official biographer of George Soros,
00:45:56.800 which is, I think, a fact most Canadians don't know but would find interesting.
00:46:00.200 And to this day, bizarrely, I don't even know how it's legal.
00:46:03.120 She's on the board of directors of the World Economic Forum.
00:46:05.500 She doesn't care about things like civil liberties or Canadian sovereignty.
00:46:09.360 She loves the idea of bringing in martial law. 0.65
00:46:13.300 And this whole idea of having to answer to the public is something that she doesn't really like one bit.
00:46:19.360 Let me show you clip number two.
00:46:22.240 About transparency.
00:46:23.940 Yeah.
00:46:24.600 And thank you for selecting these clips.
00:46:26.980 I just have a quick summary of them here, but I'm watching them for the first time.
00:46:30.300 This is Brendan Miller, who has been an excellent lawyer, doing some great cross-examinations.
00:46:37.880 Here he is asking, what's the point of an inquiry if the public isn't allowed to see the key documents?
00:46:44.220 Take a look.
00:46:45.340 I have to say that I disagree with the premise of the question.
00:46:50.260 I think Canada is a very transparent democracy.
00:46:56.580 And in fact, the commission that we're part of right now is a part of Canadian transparency.
00:47:03.660 Right.
00:47:03.960 That's why it's important.
00:47:05.120 And on that point, if I told you that there is a whole bunch of unlawfully redacted documents that we've been fighting over and waiting for an order just to get them today,
00:47:14.120 and we haven't had them for this whole proceeding,
00:47:16.680 Do you think that's transparent?
00:47:21.940 Again, and with apologies, I can't agree with the premise of the question.
00:47:27.780 I think that, but what I can say is, I think that the fact that this commission exists,
00:47:34.820 that these hearings are being held, that they're public, is really important for Canada and is a measure of Canadian transparency.
00:47:42.560 Well, there's some truth to that, but the commission inquiry doesn't work if it can't get access to documents.
00:47:49.180 And it's not a very much a public inquiry if the documents are not made public because Trudeau blacks them out.
00:47:55.460 And it's really funny because during her testimony, they show a document, but it was just a black square, a giant black square, because everything was hiding.
00:48:13.960 So where is the transparency when we see some documents look like that?
00:48:20.180 She claimed that there is no lack of transparency on Canadian citizens.
00:48:26.020 I'm sorry, but when we see the documents coming back from the government, it just showed that there is like a really big lack of transparency
00:48:36.720 if you don't want to show the information and to hide the information from the population.
00:48:44.040 Yeah, I think you're right.
00:48:46.160 Our third clip is again with Brendan Miller asking about terrorists.
00:48:54.920 Take a look.
00:48:56.100 Is Tamara Leach a terrorist? 1.00
00:48:57.160 In terms of designating who is a terrorist and who isn't, that is not my job as Minister of Finance or Deputy Prime Minister.
00:49:10.460 We have authorities whose job is to do that.
00:49:13.300 Right.
00:49:13.660 And so it's not your authority to designate Tamara Leach, Chris Barber, Tom Marazzo, or Danny Bould for terrorists.
00:49:20.520 Somebody else has to do that.
00:49:22.060 Yes, we have intelligence services.
00:49:28.200 We have enforcement agencies whose job is to determine who is a terrorist.
00:49:32.800 Okay.
00:49:33.880 And there you say that you need to designate the group as terrorists.
00:49:41.060 So, but it's not your job, but you wanted to designate them as terrorists, right?
00:49:49.480 So, that handwritten note in my notebook, I can assure you that was not a meeting with the director of CSIS,
00:50:00.240 with whom I didn't have a meeting.
00:50:02.000 It says, okay, it's with David Vignol from CSIS.
00:50:08.200 It doesn't say that.
00:50:09.720 It says it's with a gentleman called Dave.
00:50:12.140 Which Dave?
00:50:12.640 That meeting, that is not an account of a meeting with Dave Vignol because I didn't have a meeting with the CSIS director.
00:50:24.320 Which Dave is in those notes?
00:50:25.620 What's Dave's last name?
00:50:27.480 I need to see my whole notebook that you're referring to, but I can tell you for certain.
00:50:32.140 It only says Dave.
00:50:33.140 I can tell you for certain that I did not have a meeting during this time with the CSIS director.
00:50:39.280 Okay, so.
00:50:40.220 I can exclude that 100%.
00:50:41.960 You know, I thought that was an excellent back and forth.
00:50:45.360 She said twice, no, we do not designate people as terrorists.
00:50:48.900 We have experts who do that.
00:50:50.840 And then a second later, her own handwritten notes say we need to designate these people as terrorists.
00:50:58.300 Oh, I thought you literally just said you're not allowed to do that.
00:51:01.960 You don't have the power to do that.
00:51:03.540 But we've seen this throughout.
00:51:05.040 I mean, politicians do not command our police forces.
00:51:09.140 We have civilian oversight of the police.
00:51:11.140 Politicians do not direct police to arrest their enemies.
00:51:14.420 And yet throughout, we've seen Trudeau and other politicians demanding that police do their bidding.
00:51:20.580 I think that Brendan Miller caught Chrystia Freeland red-handed there.
00:51:24.940 And it was a perfect moment.
00:51:27.260 And especially when you think that some people from the organism was present in front of her,
00:51:34.980 saying what she was just saying in front of their face.
00:51:39.720 I find that a little bit arrogant and not adequate at all.
00:51:48.380 I don't know who the Dave was in question there.
00:51:52.480 She claims it's not Dave Vigneault from CESIS.
00:51:55.360 I don't know how many people named Dave she talks to about designating people as terrorists.
00:52:01.160 But I think that there's more answering to do there.
00:52:06.240 But again, the nature of this inquiry is that she likely will never be followed up on that.
00:52:10.200 And it'll be interesting to see tonight if the mainstream media reports that stunning contra juxtaposition.
00:52:16.940 It is interesting to me who Dave is.
00:52:19.520 But Maureen... 1.00
00:52:20.680 Sorry, go ahead.
00:52:21.140 It's just because she keeps telling that it's why she's taking note, because she keeps forgetting.
00:52:28.880 But I'm just like, oh, you can forget to who you talk about designated someone as a terrorist.
00:52:34.860 Or you can forget who that person is.
00:52:37.380 Yeah.
00:52:37.740 I mean, if you're in a crisis and you're talking to someone about designating them as a terrorist,
00:52:42.660 and you just forget who that is, I find that implausible.
00:52:46.180 But again, in some ways, it doesn't matter who it is, because you saw that Chrystia Freeland,
00:52:51.440 one of them designated terrorists, and she's the decider.
00:52:54.900 She's the deputy prime minister.
00:52:56.500 I say she's more than that.
00:52:57.780 She's a de facto prime minister. 0.98
00:52:59.480 She just said, it's not our role to make people terrorists.
00:53:02.080 And then the next moment, she said, yeah, those are my notes.
00:53:04.460 I just can't remember who I was talking to.
00:53:06.220 Well, of course, it does matter if it was CESIS.
00:53:09.820 But in a way, it doesn't matter because we just see the mask has slipped.
00:53:14.240 And we see that Chrystia Freeland is in the habit of designating her political enemies as terrorists. 1.00
00:53:20.640 I'm sure it's not the first time she's done that.
00:53:22.640 Well, Alexa, thank you for your coverage there.
00:53:24.620 And thanks for bringing these three clips.
00:53:26.520 And I know that the coverage will continue.
00:53:28.500 And it'll continue with Katie Telford, the chief of staff, and tomorrow's a big day with Justin Trudeau.
00:53:32.740 So thanks for being in Ottawa to cover it.
00:53:35.160 Thank you for giving me the opportunity to be there, too.
00:53:38.600 Well, I think you're doing a great job.
00:53:39.680 Thanks very much.
00:53:40.760 Thank you.
00:53:41.160 Folks, if you want to see all our coverage of the Trucker Commission, go to truckercommission.com.
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00:53:57.720 Even our Western team has done some shifts in there.
00:54:01.220 So I'm not sure the total amount.
00:54:02.940 We probably need to raise about $30,000, to be honest.
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00:54:12.480 All right.
00:54:12.680 Stay with us.
00:54:13.240 More ahead.
00:54:21.280 Hey, welcome back.
00:54:22.200 Your viewer feedback on Brendan Miller and Chrystia Freeland today.
00:54:26.280 Jack Masterman says, what is Brendan Miller trying to do?
00:54:29.000 His questions to Freeland did not make sense.
00:54:30.920 They should have been directed to the health minister.
00:54:33.840 Why spend time asking questions the witness can't answer, not within their ministry, and
00:54:38.240 have little to do with invoking the Emergencies Act?
00:54:41.160 Walking away after asking a question is just making Rolo mad, as he has already talked to
00:54:45.720 Miller about this before.
00:54:48.960 Look, I'm worried about this because, as I said at great length in my monologue, Brendan
00:54:53.300 Miller is right to say that the Nazi flag waiver was obviously a government plant. 0.87
00:54:59.080 Otherwise, we'd know who it was.
00:55:01.120 But I think he's got to correct the waters, correct the record, because he muddied the
00:55:05.400 waters by falsely claiming it was Brian Fox.
00:55:08.160 It had nothing to do with it.
00:55:09.940 Here's a letter on Mark Mendocino's testimony.
00:55:12.260 Calvin 1536 says, these liberals are far too reckless and cocky to be effective tyrants.
00:55:18.120 They provided ample campaign material for constitutionalist conservatives.
00:55:22.400 They'll be voted out in the next election.
00:55:24.320 Oh, my God.
00:55:25.180 Do I wish I was as optimistic as you?
00:55:27.420 Listen, we already knew what Trudeau was like in the 2021 election.
00:55:32.540 He had yet to do the martial law move, but he had done the lockdowns and he was reelected
00:55:37.920 soundly.
00:55:40.040 Oracle of Truth says, they should have treated it the same as they treated the Black Lives 1.00
00:55:46.080 Matter and Aboriginal protests, i.e. done absolutely nothing at all or even joined in.
00:55:50.840 Yeah, it's quite a contrast, isn't it?
00:55:52.620 Black Lives Matter, Trudeau literally took a knee, but he was talking or his cabin ministers
00:55:58.340 were talking about bringing in a military tank when it was the truckers.
00:56:02.060 That's our show for today.
00:56:03.680 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:56:08.100 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:56:10.240 Thank you.