Rebel News Podcast - November 11, 2026


EZRA LEVANT ｜ On Remembrance Day, newcomers and students in Ottawa say nobody told them what the poppy is for, while a new teachers' handbook recasts the day as anti-war

Poilievre calls to fire Liberal Minister, Carney says U.S. is riskier than the CCP ｜ Roundup

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. As I do every Remembrance Day, I read a poem by Rudyard Kipling called
00:00:04.880 Tommy, which is sort of the British way of saying GI Joe. I'll also lace it together with a few
00:00:10.940 terrible things happening to poppies and Remembrance Day and veterans over the last few
00:00:15.280 weeks. Just bad news, sad news. I'll take you through it, including some video. I'd like you
00:00:20.600 to see some of the streeters, the street interviews we do. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com,
00:00:25.660 click subscribe, and you'll get the video version of this podcast.
00:00:30.000 Tonight, a 59-year-old air cadet officer in Hamilton can't walk anymore because he was
00:00:51.280 beaten at a poppy table. And in Ottawa, our reporter found Canadians who have never once
00:00:56.760 being told what the poppy's for. It's Remembrance Day, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:05.400 Shame on you, you sensorious bug.
00:01:17.760 Every year on Remembrance Day, I read a poem, same one. I started doing it at the Sun News 0.64
00:01:22.540 network more than a dozen years ago, not in Flanders Fields, although I like that one and
00:01:27.220 it's the reason we wear the poppy, but a different poem by Rudyard Kipling written in, I think it was
00:01:33.160 1890, a quarter century before the Somme, before Ypres, before anyone could imagine what was coming
00:01:40.500 in the Great War. The poem is called Tommy or Tommy Atkins. That's the nickname for the ordinary
00:01:46.500 British soldier, the same way Americans say G.I. Joe. I'll read it to you in a moment, as I always
00:01:51.760 do um it's the last line that just gets me every time but it's harder to read this year and i'm
00:01:57.440 going to tell you why three and a half weeks ago on october 17th four canadian soldiers were killed
00:02:02.620 at cfb wainwright in alberta sergeant morgan wong of edmonton private sean farrell of prince albert
00:02:09.080 private aiden goulding of north vancouver private hayden lickmark of langley all with the third
00:02:16.240 Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. They were training to deploy to Latvia
00:02:22.460 grenade range, a section attack, a grass fire, winds gusted to 100 kilometers an hour,
00:02:29.300 and it just turned into a horrible ordeal. 39 more people were taken to hospital,
00:02:35.820 19 of them in critical condition. Just a shocking, shocking freak accident.
00:02:41.540 We don't know all the details of it, but what we know is the human toll.
00:02:44.820 and the country did what the country does flags at half mass the prime minister on parliament hill
00:02:50.020 every premier every party leader we will remember them and that's the right thing i don't doubt the
00:02:55.640 sincerity of those words but that's what kipling was talking about that he had a phrase for that
00:03:00.360 he called that moment when the band begins to play his poem though is about every other moment
00:03:08.840 every other day of the year it's easy to be patriotic when the band begins to play so let
00:03:15.060 me tell you about one of those other days november 1st the sunday 10 days before remembrance day
00:03:19.760 kenneth captain kenneth kunkel 59 years old guy he's the commanding officer of the 826 griffin
00:03:26.480 squadron of the royal canadian air cadets out in binbrook that's a volunteer job by the way
00:03:31.300 on that sunday afternoon he was standing outside the mandarin restaurant in hamilton supervising
00:03:37.180 two young cadets who were selling poppies, kids in uniform with a poppy box, and two boys walked
00:03:43.500 up and blew an air horn into the cadet's ears. That's assault, by the way. Captain Conkle followed
00:03:49.900 them into the restaurant to tell them off, and according to Hamilton police, a 48-year-old woman 0.54
00:03:54.600 who had nothing to do with anything, Estella Quintanilla, jumped in, assaulted him, knocked
00:04:00.580 him to the ground, and then one of the boys hit him over and over while he was down, and if you
00:04:05.620 can believe it spinal surgery that day he cannot walk anymore his son christopher says he may never
00:04:11.800 again play with his four grandchildren the way he did on halloween night the night before the boy
00:04:16.800 who's charged is 12 doug ford said the parents should take their kids to the woodshed okay thanks
00:04:22.640 for that you know folks to hear the story these little cadets that want to be maybe future canadian
00:04:30.340 armed forces you know they get beaten up for selling poppies it's absolutely disgusting by a
00:04:36.540 bunch of older kids like you gotta where the parents by the way they the parents should be
00:04:42.420 ashamed that they've raised their kids to a beat up cadets you've got to be kidding and i can't
00:04:48.140 comment because i think the kids are only 13 or 14 years old disgusting behavior i hope the parents 1.00
00:04:54.160 are listening you know you should give your kids a little ass whooping in the woodshed as far as 0.99
00:04:58.880 I'm concerned. A 14-year-old kid beating up cadets that are trying to serve our country? 0.99
00:05:03.720 The most disgusting thing you could ever do. David Menzies actually found the woman
00:05:07.940 and she says she was protecting the boys. What motivated you to attack Captain Kunkel?
00:05:17.040 Captain Kunkel was beating up two kids. Pardon me? He was beating up two kids. He was beating
00:05:23.300 up two kids? He was in an altercation with two children. Okay, are you aware those two children
00:05:29.800 you speak of were blasting air horns and air cadet's ears? Pardon? They were blasting air
00:05:35.300 horns and air cadet's ears. Yes, well initially I didn't know that. Okay. But that doesn't give
00:05:43.760 him the right to touch children. What did you see him do to the children? Have an altercation,
00:05:49.600 put physical altercation, physical force, pushing and shoving, removal of their property, dragging
00:05:55.960 them out, trying to drag them out of a restaurant. Okay, but in the meantime, you tripped them and
00:06:03.520 that led to one of the children, as you call them. Obviously not on purpose, obviously tried to
00:06:09.480 discolate the situation of two minors in an altercation with an adult. But with all due
00:06:16.860 respect he received such a beating ma'am that was not intentional the children received also a
00:06:21.980 beating okay but they don't need spinal surgery they they are able to walk still and captain
00:06:29.580 kunkle isn't well of course and we are sorry for that but that was never my intention my intention
00:06:34.940 was to get in the middle of a fight with two children think about that a man in uniform
00:06:39.880 standing guard over children for the poppy and a grown woman's instinct in that split second was
00:06:44.600 to take the side of the kid with the air horn that's that's a real state a snapshot of the
00:06:51.600 state of affairs in canada today don't you think now here's the poem i'll do my best to get through
00:06:56.960 it i always wince at that last line i went into a public house to get a pint of beer the public
00:07:04.840 in the oven says we serve no red coats here the girls behind the bar they laughed and giggled
00:07:09.600 fit to die i out into the street again and to myself says i oh it's tommy this and tommy that
00:07:15.960 and tommy go away but it's thank you mr atkins when the band begins to play the band begins to
00:07:21.220 play my boys the band begins to play oh it's thank you mr atkins when the band begins to play
00:07:26.000 i went into a theater as sober as could be they gave a drunk civilian room but had none for me
00:07:32.120 they sent me to the gallery or around the music halls but when it comes to fighting lord they'll
00:07:37.280 shoved me in the stalls for it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy wait outside but it's
00:07:42.620 special train for Atkins when the trooper on the tide the troop ships on the tide my boys the
00:07:48.360 troop ships on the tide oh it's special train for Atkins when the trooper's on the tide
00:07:52.580 it's making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep it's cheaper than them uniforms and
00:07:59.380 they're starvation cheap and hustling drunken soldiers when they're going large a bit is five
00:08:04.900 times better business than parading in full kit and it's tommy this and tommy that and tommy how's
00:08:10.400 your soul but it's thin red line of heroes when the drums begin to roll the drums begin to roll
00:08:16.940 my boys the drums begin to roll oh it's thin red line of heroes when the drums begin to roll
00:08:22.100 we aren't no thin red heroes nor we aren't no blaggards too but single men in barracks most
00:08:28.300 remarkable like you and if sometimes our conduct isn't all your fancy pants why single men in
00:08:34.480 barracks don't grow into plaster saints well it's tommy this and tommy that and tommy fall behind
00:08:39.940 but it's pleased to walk in front sir when there's trouble in the wind there's trouble in the wind my
00:08:45.920 boys there's trouble in the wind oh it's pleased to walk in front sir when there's trouble in the
00:08:49.440 wind you talk a better food for us and schools and fires and all we wait for extra rations if
00:08:55.920 you treat us rationale don't mess about the cook room slops but prove it to our face the widow's
00:09:02.900 uniform is not the soldier man's disgrace for it's tommy this and tommy that and chuck him out
00:09:08.220 the brute but it's savior of his country when the guns begin to shoot and it's tommy this and tommy 0.94
00:09:14.220 that and anything you please and tommy ain't a blooming fool you bet that tommy sees oh that 0.69
00:09:20.520 last line gets me every time tommy sees he saw it in 1890 make and mock of uniforms that guard you
00:09:26.920 while you sleep is cheaper than than uniforms of course it is that's the word cheaper everything
00:09:31.860 we do to our soldiers in peacetime, we do because it's cheaper, like offering
00:09:35.980 them assisted suicide, or MAID, as they call it now, instead of treatment
00:09:40.040 for PTSD. Veterans Affairs is offering young men
00:09:44.060 suicide because they have PTSD. That's cheaper
00:09:48.020 than giving them care. So what does Tommy Atkins see in Canada
00:09:51.860 in 2026? On Monday, our reporter Drew Silver went out on the streets of Ottawa,
00:09:56.400 our nation's capital, a few blocks from the National War Memorial. He asked
00:09:59.840 people a simple question why aren't you wearing a poppy take a look oh sorry i didn't remember i
00:10:05.200 was remembering stay we genuinely forgot wrong jacket yeah oh i just where did it go oh she did
00:10:14.820 have one because i forgot i forgot it in my room i actually literally just said that okay all right
00:10:22.300 Yeah, mine fell off.
00:10:23.620 Ah, yeah.
00:10:24.620 Um, I don't know.
00:10:27.480 Well, it's her hair, but we heard some history, like, happened in Canada.
00:10:33.740 It's about, like, World War II.
00:10:36.380 Yeah, we just now put...
00:10:37.480 Would you like to share more?
00:10:39.820 Hi, do you mind if I ask why you're not wearing the Remembrance Day poppy?
00:10:43.760 My English is India.
00:10:46.440 Oh, I have it in my purse.
00:10:47.700 Oh, okay.
00:10:48.160 nobody told them not the schools not the citizenship test not the welcome package not the
00:10:53.840 cbc nobody told them what that means now this one this is the one that got me she's a high school
00:10:58.840 student born here as far as i can tell listen to what she says about how her school handles
00:11:03.480 remembrance day personally i go to school to high school and we just like watch one video per day
00:11:08.960 it's like just one video and we don't really talk about it it would be nice if we talked about it
00:11:13.160 more one video and they don't talk about it she wishes they would here's what i want you to know
00:11:18.140 it's not one of those people was rude actually not one of them was hostile the young people said
00:11:22.340 they try to look up on their own these facts the girl wants more not less these aren't people who
00:11:27.080 rejected the poppy the people who were never told about it or offered it seven years ago almost to
00:11:32.920 the day don cherry stood on coach's corner and said this you know i was talking to a veteran i
00:11:38.140 said i'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore because what's the sense i live in mississauga
00:11:42.260 Nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy.
00:11:46.600 Downtown Toronto, forget it, downtown Toronto, nobody wears a poppy.
00:11:50.240 And I'm not going to wait.
00:11:50.980 He says, wait a minute.
00:11:52.220 How about running it for the people that buy them?
00:11:55.040 Now, you go to the small cities and, you know, those, the rows on rows, you people love,
00:12:00.980 you, they come here, whatever it is, you love our way of life.
00:12:04.480 You love our milk and honey.
00:12:05.880 At least you can pay a couple of bucks for poppies or something like that.
00:12:09.880 These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada.
00:12:14.440 These guys paid the biggest price.
00:12:17.440 He was fired within 48 hours on Remembrance Day itself for two words, you people.
00:12:22.440 And then this week, Joe Warmington walked around Toronto downtown and wrote that Don Cherry, well, he probably was right.
00:12:27.780 Poppies were very rare.
00:12:30.200 The Royal Canadian Legion is 100 years old this year.
00:12:32.440 A century of poppies and a Leger poll last year found 55% of Canadians plan to wear one.
00:12:38.580 That's down 58% from the year before.
00:12:40.880 But I've been out and about, I think it's more like 10%, maybe.
00:12:44.680 People tell pollsters that they care.
00:12:46.520 It's easier than actually caring.
00:12:48.180 I think people were lying to pollsters when they said they were going to wear that poppy.
00:12:50.980 But think about who's in the 45% who just boldly told the pollsters that they don't care.
00:12:56.960 I mean, they're probably not enemies of the poppy.
00:12:58.680 Mostly just people who don't know, don't care, really have no connection to our country. 1.00
00:13:02.480 And I don't just mean immigrants, by the way. 0.99
00:13:04.200 I mean young people who have been taught to hate our country in our schools,
00:13:06.860 to be told that our past is disgraceful,
00:13:09.260 that we've committed genocide here in Canada.
00:13:12.300 That's why we stripped John A. MacDonald off our $10 bill.
00:13:16.800 So what are the schools teaching instead of the poppy? 0.91
00:13:19.040 Well, I'll show you.
00:13:20.340 This came out this month.
00:13:22.080 It's a handbook for teachers, grades 1 through 12,
00:13:24.860 from a group called World Beyond War Canada.
00:13:28.460 It says, and I'm quoting the first page,
00:13:30.380 Remembrance Day was founded to abolish war.
00:13:33.240 Is that what Remembrance Day was founded for?
00:13:36.860 It tells teachers that the curriculum still presents bravery and sacrifice as central to Rembrandt's Day, as if that's the problem to be fixed.
00:13:46.220 In grades 1 to 3, they make the kids make white poppies and peace posters.
00:13:51.420 In grades 4 to 6, they hunt for militarism in their toys.
00:13:55.260 In grades 7 to 12, they write to their MP about defense spending.
00:13:58.840 They write to the mayor to demilitarize the air show.
00:14:01.580 They drop a peace budget and they research the campaign against what the handbook calls the War Bank, which is the government's proposed defense bank.
00:14:10.900 That girl in Ottawa said her school shows one video a day.
00:14:13.660 I have a pretty good idea of what's probably in that video.
00:14:17.320 And the CBC state broadcaster has a kids explainer going around again this week that spends his time on the white poppy and the rainbow poppy as if the red one needs an alternative.
00:14:28.000 know tommy atkins well he sees all this kipling saw it in 1890 he saw it the legion saw it when
00:14:35.500 it put out its hundredth poppy campaign last month and four families in edmonton and prince
00:14:40.080 albert and north vancouver and langley are singing right now because tomorrow the band stops playing
00:14:44.960 the flags go back up the pole captain kunkla is still in rehab the girl in ottawa goes back to
00:14:51.560 class and watches a video here's the thing the american veteran in drew's video was actually
00:14:56.440 right nobody should be forced to wear a poppy woman that's a such a a false option that's a
00:15:04.040 that's a i don't has that ever happened has that ever happened a straw man no one should be forced 0.71
00:15:12.080 to wear a poppy do do police go up to you on the street and force you the men that poppy stands for
00:15:17.460 died so that nobody could force you to do anything you can't wear a poppy for someone else hi do you
00:15:23.940 Do you mind if you ask why you're not wearing their Membran State poppy?
00:15:25.980 I lost it.
00:15:27.000 Okay, so why is it important for you to wear their Membran State poppy?
00:15:30.300 Well, to be honest with you, I'm an American, I'm a veteran,
00:15:33.660 and I think it's important to honor all that have fought for their country.
00:15:37.120 I suppose that it's their choice because of the men and women
00:15:41.360 who fought for the right to wear it or not wear it.
00:15:44.380 So it's ultimately their choice, I suppose.
00:15:47.280 But you can do the thing the schools didn't do.
00:15:48.820 You can tell one person what it means, the kid at the bus stop,
00:15:51.700 the new neighbor who's been here two years and has never been told,
00:15:54.860 the 12-year-old with the air horn just before it's too late,
00:15:57.680 just tell them, in Flanders' fields, the poppies blow.
00:16:00.560 Between the crosses, row and row. It takes a minute.
00:16:03.980 Tommy ain't a blooming fool, he sees. 0.97
00:16:07.080 Stay with us for more. 0.97
00:16:16.400 You know, there's an old saying called,
00:16:18.520 firemen first it's saying when it comes to cutting government bureaucracy if you were to tell the
00:16:25.060 government you've got to cut a million dollars do you think they're going to choose something
00:16:29.540 wasteful do you think they're going to choose the renovations of the office no there's that saying
00:16:34.720 firemen first cut the thing that is the most necessary the most needed maybe even the most
00:16:41.760 holy and that will get such a ruckus that you uh that there'll be a revolt and you don't have to
00:16:48.280 cut anything at all i think that's what's going on at parks canada they were told by mark carney
00:16:54.920 to cut 145 million dollars over three years and what did they choose to cut they chose to cut
00:17:03.120 perhaps the single most necessary expenditure in national parks i'm talking about avalanche
00:17:10.920 search dogs can you imagine the entire they're not cutting bureaucrats they're not cutting
00:17:18.260 officials, they are cutting the people who risk their own lives going out immediately after an
00:17:25.960 avalanche to save the lives of skiers or hikers. That is what the plan at Parks Canada is. It's
00:17:32.940 outrageous. And joining me now to talk about it is Kyle Hale. He's the boss of CARDA, the Canadian
00:17:40.160 Avalanche Rescue Dog Association. He joins us today from Golden. I mean, Kyle, I don't know
00:17:47.860 what would motivate you to go into one of the most dangerous circumstances imaginable a fresh
00:17:54.880 avalanche other than your love for humanity like i've got to imagine that's extremely risky for you
00:18:01.440 to do you go out with a dog that's trained to find people and now you're you and others like
00:18:08.460 you were being cut tell me what the heck is going on uh yeah well it's not it's not our program
00:18:14.620 That's being cut. Parks Canada has made a decision to cut its warden service, which includes a specific resource related to both law enforcement and search and rescue capacity, which includes avalanche rescue.
00:18:29.700 Our organization maintains a network of volunteer civilian dog handlers across Alberta and BC. It's a small number of really highly trained individuals.
00:18:40.960 And now that the Parks Canada program has been canned, there's questions around who's going to be doing the job.
00:18:49.100 And it sounds like it's us volunteers, but nobody asked us.
00:18:53.480 Okay, so you're saying that there still will be dogs out there and there still will be volunteers like yourself, but it's going to be without government support.
00:19:03.660 We're not sure.
00:19:05.080 That's the questions we're asking.
00:19:06.920 British Columbia has a very robust volunteer search and rescue system that has policies, procedures, agreements in place to provide protections to volunteers like myself so that if we were to get injured while out on the call, we're covered through the occupational health and safety system.
00:19:27.220 If we get sued, we're covered.
00:19:30.200 If I break a piece of equipment or need to put gas in my truck to drive to an avalanche, that's covered.
00:19:35.160 So that's all very laid out and very robust coverages.
00:19:39.420 Parks Canada has none of that for our membership.
00:19:42.620 So questions around how we are going to fill this void.
00:19:47.800 And again, nobody asked us.
00:19:49.700 Wow.
00:19:50.480 Wow.
00:19:51.120 Tell me a little bit more about what it's like.
00:19:52.840 I mean, that's got to be a very specific kind of training.
00:19:55.780 and and tell me what kind of dogs they are i mean just how would you operate let's say there's an
00:20:01.420 avalanche and there's word that a skier or a hiker may be uh caught in it how do they contact you
00:20:09.640 what do you do how do you get there do you go by helicopter tell i just tell our i've just such an
00:20:16.020 interesting subject give us a little bit of background in what in what you do yeah so in
00:20:21.280 In most of Canada, search and rescue falls under the jurisdiction of the police force.
00:20:27.640 So for the bulk of British Columbia, that would be the RCMP.
00:20:30.740 Within the Mountain National Parks, that's the Parks Canada jurisdiction.
00:20:36.140 And so Parks Canada maintains a professional network of visitor safety specialists that conduct that type of work within the park.
00:20:44.260 Outside of the park in British Columbia, volunteers saw our organizations, which include the one here in Golden, Golden and District Search and Rescue, who utilize these avalanche or general search dogs to be deployed.
00:20:58.440 And if an avalanche was to happen, somebody calls 911 or pushes an emergency locator beacon, we get dispatched to the site.
00:21:06.080 There's policy and procedure as to how we get there.
00:21:08.340 often it's by helicopter when we can fly, can't fly at night. So that would involve perhaps
00:21:14.020 driving and snowmobiling and skiing. So all of our resources, our dog handlers, our mountain
00:21:20.660 professionals that are working in the industry, either ski patrollers, avalanche forecasters,
00:21:25.780 highways, those kinds of jobs. And so they're capable of moving in that terrain. And we would
00:21:31.540 deploy with the best means possible into the site with a fully integrated avalanche response team.
00:21:38.340 to locate, extricate, and treat anybody who is buried in an avalanche.
00:21:45.580 And how do the dogs do it? Is it by scent, I imagine?
00:21:48.900 Yeah, absolutely. Their keen scent, sense of smell has been trained since they were little puppies
00:21:54.840 to find human scent. So that's their greatest asset is that I can use a dog and a single handler
00:22:03.280 resource to cover a large area for someone who does not have an avalanche transceiver on and
00:22:08.520 the only other means effective means to do that would be to have human rescuers poking holes in
00:22:15.100 the ground with an avalanche probe which is very time consuming and exposes a lot of rescuers to
00:22:21.080 risk. Wow so the transceiver that so there is an electronic kind of beeper I guess and if that
00:22:28.480 happens i suppose it's easier to locate but not everyone would have that is what you're saying
00:22:33.480 that's where the dog exactly yeah you know those that recreate uh routinely in in the winter
00:22:40.300 mountain environment would carry an avalanche transceiver and be able to conduct a self-rescue
00:22:44.880 or a companion rescue of of somebody in their in their group only probably needing to interface
00:22:51.740 with search and rescue should there be some sort of injury but a lot of unaware people snowmobiling
00:22:57.560 snowshoeing skiing outside the ski area boundaries at major resorts in the national parks and without
00:23:04.140 uh enter avalanche train every year so it's not uncommon for us to have these avalanches that
00:23:09.800 involve people that are not transmitting have you ever rescued anyone oh yeah lots of people
00:23:16.000 like how often does that happen well i've been a 30-year career uh in the winter mountain rescue
00:23:23.800 business and so my dog has recovered a number of my dogs sorry have recovered a number of deceased
00:23:31.000 individuals over their career that's right i've dug located and dug people out uh with my avalanche
00:23:36.400 transceiver and probably rescued hundreds of people injured hundreds uh yeah not all from
00:23:43.100 avalanches but in the winter mountain environment you know and i suppose the dog helps even if it's
00:23:47.800 on an avalanche well for missing people which is the other uh profile that's been cut out of the
00:23:54.680 national park program uh probably more success you know little johnny walks off into the woods or
00:24:00.540 grandpa with dementia walks away our dogs can find them far faster than any other technology
00:24:08.320 out there uh can cover huge areas quickly and uh can again reduce the overall risk to rescuers
00:24:15.320 and you're saying that you personally have been involved with more than a hundred of these cases
00:24:22.260 in your career yeah absolutely not all um not all not all with dogs and avalanches but yes
00:24:28.820 absolutely yeah wow that's incredible i mean you the gratitude towards you the the look on the faces
00:24:34.740 of the people who are losing hope when they see you must that must be an incredible moment
00:24:39.900 yeah and you put a lot of time and effort into training a canine partner and to have success is
00:24:46.300 is amazing i can definitely think my dogs my dogs have recovered many deceased people and that
00:24:52.300 provides closure to to families and that is an important role but you know the ones the calls
00:24:56.620 that stand out in my mind are definitely finding those people that are in pretty vulnerable places
00:25:02.360 and we're able to bring them home what what breed of dog do you use um i use a german shepherd yeah
00:25:08.060 But a number of breeds are acceptable, suitable for the task.
00:25:13.200 Border collies, labs, golden retrievers, you know, a larger breed with a thick coat and some type of drive that can be harnessed towards looking, searching for human scent.
00:25:26.200 And you're doing this as a volunteer?
00:25:28.500 Yeah, and as a professional, I work professionally in the avalanche industry, as many of our handlers do.
00:25:32.220 So my day job is to be an avalanche forecaster and to have that trained resource at our ski resort as part of our day-to-day, but also responding outside the ski area boundary to all over British Columbia and Alberta to provide that service.
00:25:49.080 Yeah, you're basing, we're talking to you from Golden, which is right on the BC side of the Rockies.
00:25:54.640 Well, I think maybe I started slightly off base with the facts.
00:25:59.540 i was saying it would be cancelled and you're saying well it's largely volunteer driven but
00:26:04.220 that until now up till now parks canada has had a professional avalanche dog program
00:26:08.680 it's been tied in it's a was a warden uh enforcement like a plea that position has been
00:26:16.920 cut and as a result the canine search capacity for both winter mountain rescue and summer
00:26:25.240 searching has also been cut and so that resource that was there before is now no longer
00:26:32.420 part of the parks program and what our concern is as an organization is primarily is that up till
00:26:39.480 now that resource that parks canada dog handler resource was one that our civilian SAR organization
00:26:46.620 could tap into for expertise for developing of standard operating procedures those individuals
00:26:55.000 those dog handlers over the last 30 years have been really active instructors in our civilian
00:26:59.480 program and they provide us with the certification as well so all of that in-kind support to our
00:27:04.980 organization dwindles you know completely dries up now that this program has been cut and that's
00:27:09.480 going to have effect on on the overall capacity within Canada. Well it sounds pretty serious it
00:27:16.040 sounds like maybe I mischaracterized some of the details but to go after the wardens it it makes
00:27:21.780 no sense i mean are these wardens let me ask you because i suppose there's different kind of wardens
00:27:26.400 are any of these fire watching wardens i know there's animal wardens no these are law enforcement
00:27:33.420 essentially the police agency for the national parks got it okay they've been severely caught
00:27:38.740 under this huh it just seems like a foolish place to start of all the places i do you think that
00:27:46.500 um this is something that the public can help you push back on like i've just got to think of
00:27:52.640 the people you've saved or or rescued or found over the years um like it would be like it really
00:27:59.000 is like cutting firemen my analogy i think holds up that i don't know a single person in the world
00:28:04.780 who's not grateful to firemen or or just grateful that they're there in case they do need them
00:28:10.300 and it just seems like the wrong place to make cuts i mean i i'm i'm for fiscal responsibility
00:28:16.140 more than i think more than most people are but this is this is the craziest place to cut seems
00:28:21.320 to me yeah i mean i i obviously can't speak to the the law enforcement decision there i just know
00:28:28.440 that from the canine search and rescue perspective in western canada we're losing a center of
00:28:36.260 excellence that's had you know decades upon decades of impact and that is now gone and without
00:28:44.320 that in-kind contribution to our organization we're we're going to hurt and then obviously
00:28:50.680 the response capacity part within the national parks is also going to suffer so not a lot or
00:28:56.000 no consultation done of any of the stakeholders that i'm aware of so a decision that was you know
00:29:01.480 made in a in a silo somewhere and now i think you're seeing the public through petitions
00:29:06.220 and through uh a lot of a lot of online angst uh expressing their opinion yeah and this applies
00:29:14.800 to natural parks across canada does it yeah the warden cut for sure uh there was the mountain
00:29:20.740 parks were the only uh portion of the of parks canada that had a canine program it's been
00:29:27.920 shrinking for years the parks has been cutting it kind of one dog at a time and finally they made
00:29:32.740 the decision to ax it completely and i'm guessing the bulk of that is in the west i mean i've been
00:29:38.040 to national parks across canada there's not a lot of majestic snowy mountains frankly alberta bc
00:29:44.760 probably have 90 of them absolutely but this dog program has historically been dispatched to
00:29:52.060 locations like the Yukon, like Baffin Island. So the Parks Canada is able to utilize that resource
00:29:59.380 wherever they feel it fit. And again, now that resource doesn't exist. Yeah. Western and Northern
00:30:04.580 Canada bearing the brunt of it. Well, listen, it's a pleasure to get to know you a little bit and to
00:30:09.220 hear some of your stories of rescuing and frankly, finding a deceased body. I can imagine to bring the
00:30:16.160 closure um that would be a very sorrowful find but still a useful one to uh for families to know
00:30:22.820 i i wish you well kyle and uh your organization and i'm going to be putting my thinking cap on
00:30:29.480 if there's anything we can do to assist you and if you have any ideas or if you have projects let
00:30:34.820 us know because this is something i think we'd like to help with it's just madness and i mean
00:30:39.980 You personally risk your own safety.
00:30:44.280 I mean, you're a pro at what you do,
00:30:46.160 but you've got to have a certain amount of madness in you
00:30:49.140 to go into an avalanche zone right after an avalanche.
00:30:53.800 Like, I don't think one in a million people would do that.
00:30:56.960 You are doing that either as a professional or as a volunteer,
00:31:00.660 and I would think the least we can do is support you.
00:31:03.180 Like, the least we could do, given what you do to help perfect strangers,
00:31:08.140 people you've never met.
00:31:08.980 it's sort of incredible. And I salute you. You're, you're, I mean,
00:31:13.000 I think you are literally the definition of a hero and your dog is too.
00:31:19.120 You know, one thing I didn't bring up with Kyle, cause I didn't want to,
00:31:22.480 you know, get off track with him is I went online and there's a,
00:31:28.920 there's a foreign affairs spending website that anyone can find.
00:31:34.720 and we'll show it on the page now, because while Mark Carney is cutting spending on safety for our national parks,
00:31:43.200 it's the wardens and the support for groups like the dog rescuers.
00:31:49.640 He's found $16 million for a national park in the African country of Guinea.
00:31:58.680 And you can see it right here on your page, right on your screen right now.
00:32:02.660 Project Profile, Women Pro Forests, Climate Change Adaptation in the Moyen-Bafing National Park.
00:32:11.160 And if you've never heard of the Moyen-Bafing National Park, it's because it's not in Canada.
00:32:15.500 That park is in Guinea. And what did they need 16 million Canadian dollars for?
00:32:21.480 Well, I'm glad you asked. Let me read to you from the official description.
00:32:25.860 The Women Pro Forests Climate Change Adaptation in the Moyen-Bafing National Park in Guinea Project
00:32:31.280 is the result of a partnership
00:32:33.880 between the Union des Producteurs Agricole
00:32:36.420 and the Canada Research Chair in Ecological Economics.
00:32:41.340 I'll skip ahead.
00:32:42.540 This project aims to improve the adaptation 1.00
00:32:45.100 to climate change of women,
00:32:47.760 young women, and their families.
00:32:50.380 Achieving this goal depends on an increased adoption
00:32:52.400 of nature-based solutions
00:32:54.100 that support biodiversity
00:32:55.580 for the benefit of young women and young women.
00:32:59.520 Now, do you understand what any of this means so far?
00:33:02.560 Talking about a national park, what are they getting the $16 million for?
00:33:05.480 Let me know when you think you understand.
00:33:08.340 The project aims to sustainably improve the economic opportunities of beneficiaries
00:33:15.180 from nature-based agroforestry solutions that are climate smart and respectful of forest biodiversity.
00:33:25.360 Do you know what any of this means?
00:33:27.860 I know what this means.
00:33:28.680 This means $16 million. 0.93
00:33:30.240 This is how you liberate $16 million from Canadians
00:33:33.720 to give it to your friends in the NGO industry in Africa.
00:33:37.980 It seeks to improve the inclusive and equitable governance
00:33:41.560 of forest biodiversity to support the adaptation
00:33:44.860 to climate change of women, young, vulnerable women,
00:33:48.040 and their families, including supporting community programs
00:33:52.600 for reforestation, supporting civil society organizations.
00:33:56.760 That means NGOs and do-gooders.
00:33:59.300 That's where the money's going.
00:34:01.360 And economic interest groups to support services to overcome the barriers
00:34:06.060 to adaptation to climate change linked to unpaid care work.
00:34:12.120 They're just taking words and tossing them like a salad, aren't they?
00:34:16.560 Like, none of this means anything other than
00:34:18.680 they have to put some words on the paper to justify 16 million.
00:34:22.340 Implementing a training program on feminist climate justice and women's environmental rights with women and young women, particularly those from civil society organizations, 3,500 people will get a cut of this $16 million.
00:34:42.100 I won't read the whole thing because you're probably, your eyes are glazing over.
00:34:46.840 But I just want you to know, while Kyle Hale and his German Shepherd may or may not be able to respond to the next avalanche victim,
00:34:55.320 I want you to feel good about the fact that we are spending tens of millions of dollars on national parks.
00:35:02.460 Just not in Canada, and just not for anything that makes sense.
00:35:06.360 we've got to get these 1.00
00:35:07.560 feminist climate 1.00
00:35:10.220 activists their cash 1.00
00:35:12.200 just incredible stay with us for more
00:35:14.240 hey welcome back your letters to me
00:35:24.560 the first one is about Don Cherry
00:35:26.340 David Mundell says Cherry said it best
00:35:28.580 you people
00:35:29.640 well he could have meant anyone because I think
00:35:32.240 there's two different kinds of anti-Canadianism 1.00
00:35:35.080 one is by foreigners who come here to destroy us colonize us undermine us and fortunately i think 1.00
00:35:40.720 that's a minority of migrants um you saw on the street i said drew did you know a lot of new 1.00
00:35:46.180 immigrants just simply never heard of remembrance day of the poppy the other are people who born and
00:35:51.620 raised in canada go to woke schools and are taught to hate their own country so i'd i'd apply the
00:35:57.840 phrase you people to both those groups coolman abad said i bet some of these people take pride
00:36:04.000 month more seriously than Remembrance Day. Well, talk about being forced to wear a poppy. No one's
00:36:09.320 ever been forced to wear a poppy in the history of poppies. But oh yeah, if you don't salute the
00:36:14.280 rainbow flag, get ready to be fired or disciplined. I'm not even kidding. In Alberta right now, 0.55
00:36:20.200 there's a grandmother who campaigned against rainbow sidewalks and she's being prosecuted
00:36:26.940 by the government of Alberta. Absolutely happy. Duggernaut says, it's a good thing most of the 0.99
00:36:32.760 World War II vets are gone.
00:36:34.240 They would be devastated to see the state of Canada today.
00:36:37.780 RIP, boys, and thank you for your service, lest we forget.
00:36:41.460 You know what?
00:36:42.080 I'm glad those who passed away don't have to see the horrors of our age.
00:36:50.160 And on the other hand, boy, we sure could use their input and guidance
00:36:55.260 and moral authority, couldn't we?
00:36:57.640 Well, that's our show for the day.
00:36:59.500 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:37:02.400 to you at home. Good night. And keep
00:37:04.480 fighting for freedom.