Rebel News Podcast - July 25, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | Ottawa persecutes Christian rocker, celebrates Irish Hamas apologists


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

157.75212

Word Count

6,695

Sentence Count

489

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

A Christian worship band from the United States is canceled from playing in a Canadian national park, but a terrorist supporting band from Ireland is being given the Red Carpet treatment. You re fighting for freedom, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.480 Tonight, a Christian worship band from the United States is canceled from playing in a Canadian national park,
00:00:07.480 but a terrorist supporting band from Ireland is being given the red carpet treatment.
00:00:12.540 It's July 25th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:15.100 You're fighting for freedom!
00:00:17.980 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!
00:00:30.000 I hadn't heard of Sean Feucht until last week.
00:00:34.080 He's a high-energy U.S.-based pastor who incorporates music into his church.
00:00:39.780 And in terms of his church, he takes it outside, something he put to important use during the COVID lockdowns.
00:00:48.140 Here, watch this video trailer. You sort of get a flavor for him.
00:00:52.260 America's bedrock principle of religious freedom is being severely tested by the pandemic.
00:00:57.640 Singing has been banned at all church services in California.
00:01:01.760 We need to bend the curve.
00:01:03.220 I can feel something inside of me like, we've got to take a stand.
00:01:06.060 Christian singer and activist Sean Feucht leading what's called Let Us Worship.
00:01:10.060 This guy is probably responsible for hundreds of deaths.
00:01:13.380 We thank you, Lord, that there is another story that the media isn't telling. It is one of hope.
00:01:18.660 There's a pandemic. There's a plague. Here's a move of God. It's going to change America.
00:01:23.600 The whole thing is fear, man. It's fear. It's intimidation.
00:01:26.820 Courage is taught when you see it. You can't teach it as principles. You have to see it modeled.
00:01:35.080 Christians are rising up. I'm telling you guys.
00:01:40.220 Light overcomes darkness every day.
00:01:44.240 This is not political. This is biblical.
00:01:46.580 He's charismatic. He says he's biblical, not political.
00:01:56.380 But of course, what is more political than the Bible, especially in America's culture wars?
00:02:01.880 But he's got some political friends. Here's a clip of that.
00:02:05.580 Hi, my name is Sean Feucht and welcome to my YouTube channel.
00:02:09.180 Now, before you go any further, make sure that you click the button above, subscribe so you can stay in touch with the latest videos and all the amazing events that we have going on.
00:02:30.900 I am standing here in northern Iraq in a 6,000-year-old citadel.
00:02:36.920 And I want to tell you, God is still on the throne and he's still in control.
00:02:40.980 And this year, we are taking the message of the gospel to the nations.
00:02:45.160 We're going to 50 state capitals with the Kingdom to the Capital Tour.
00:02:49.300 We're doing missions with Light a Candle.
00:02:51.200 We've got podcasts. We've got albums.
00:02:52.920 We've got a lot of stuff going on.
00:02:54.520 We welcome you to our page to check it out, search through the videos, get resourced, get encouraged, and I pray that you leave better off than you can.
00:03:03.400 God bless.
00:03:03.760 Come on, lift up a shout, lift up a shout, lift up a shout.
00:03:23.600 Well, of course, he's based in the U.S. and 90% of Canada's population is within an hour's drive of the U.S.
00:03:37.220 So it makes sense for a man who goes on tour outdoors to put Canada on his road trip.
00:03:43.800 He's been here before.
00:03:45.080 I think he actually really likes Canada.
00:03:47.900 Trouble is, as you can tell, he's got traditional values.
00:03:50.760 He would be, I don't know, called far right by the far left.
00:03:54.920 Take us back to that moment when you decided the straw has broken the camel's back.
00:03:59.620 Something has to happen.
00:04:00.940 We're going to do this lettuce worship thing.
00:04:03.260 Yeah, it was actually kind of an accidental movement.
00:04:06.020 It's funny.
00:04:07.560 You know, I really felt like being in California, we were the most locked down state.
00:04:12.860 And we actually had a governor that told us, you know, bars are open, strip clubs can be open, casinos can be open,
00:04:18.800 marijuana dispensaries can be open, the church has to shut, and the church can't sing.
00:04:23.680 So that was kind of the moment to me where I was like, hold on one sec.
00:04:27.300 We're the church.
00:04:28.300 We've been worshiping for 2,000 years.
00:04:30.620 Like, this is what we do.
00:04:32.780 And we do it through pandemics.
00:04:34.780 We do it through plagues.
00:04:35.860 We do it through political strife.
00:04:37.960 We do it through wars.
00:04:38.880 This is what we do.
00:04:39.840 So, you know, that was the moment for me where I just began to say, okay, we've got to do something.
00:04:44.400 We've got to rise up.
00:04:45.200 We've got to remind people who they are.
00:04:49.000 And remember, in Canada, simply believing in traditional values, according to our RCMP, is a sign you're probably a criminal.
00:04:58.000 Take a look.
00:04:59.120 Well, radicalization in general quite often will show by people isolating themselves and changing their behavior,
00:05:07.620 like changing what they're saying on a subject, like becoming more extremist.
00:05:12.980 Like, and if someone you know was very believed in equal gender rights, but all of a sudden are leaning towards, like, traditional values,
00:05:25.120 and that might be a sign that they're becoming more extremist.
00:05:29.320 But we also have to remember that having the most extremist views is perfectly legal in Canada and that it's only acting with violence to prove that view that becomes a criminal offense.
00:05:44.840 Yeah, there's been no recantation of that.
00:05:47.580 I think that's exactly what's going on.
00:05:49.060 So Sean had a tour of Canada that was canceled by the government.
00:05:56.600 He had one appearance that was going to be at a national park, permitted, all the boxes checked.
00:06:03.520 Then the national park, which is a government agency, suddenly said, he's not welcome.
00:06:09.120 Now, they couldn't come right out and say that he's not welcome because he's Christian, but they said because of his views, there's a safety issue.
00:06:18.620 So, of course, whoever was making the threats gets to win, and whoever would be the victim of the threats has to lose.
00:06:25.920 It's a lie, of course.
00:06:27.020 Safety is a word that they used during the pandemic to lock us all down.
00:06:31.660 So safety has been an excuse for a lot of horrendous things.
00:06:35.460 If you think back, oh, I don't know, a few hundred years ago to the French Revolution, it was the Committee of Public Safety.
00:06:41.840 That's what they called themselves in the French Revolution that ran the reign of terror.
00:06:47.140 I don't know if you know your history.
00:06:48.300 That's when the guillotine was used to execute thousands of people to keep them safe.
00:06:54.840 So that's what happens to a peaceful, friendly, American Christian pastor who's filling out all the forms, has been to Canada many times, but because he is friends with Donald Trump, so they call him a MAGA activist.
00:07:09.480 By that, I mean the state broadcaster calls him that, so he must be kept out.
00:07:14.200 But at the exact same time, there's another singer coming to Canada with the full blessing of our entire government from the top to the bottom.
00:07:22.760 Now, it's an Irish band called kneecap, and you might be wondering, what does kneecap mean?
00:07:30.360 Well, kneecap was a violent form of torture that the IRA would use shooting people in the kneecap during the troubles.
00:07:39.200 Now, I'm taking no position on the battle in Ireland between Ireland and the UK.
00:07:43.820 I don't understand the whole conflict, and I'm interested in other things, but I'm just telling you that to this band, that is something so amazing they named themselves after.
00:07:53.160 There's three of them. There's a couple of young guys and a very old man who covers his face with a balaclava to hide how old he is and to look menacing.
00:08:02.140 That's a little throwback to the troubles when terrorism was the way.
00:08:07.040 So kneecap has named themselves after a torture tactic, and they actually go much further than that.
00:08:12.380 They promote terrorism today.
00:08:14.700 They promote it in many ways, flying terrorist flags, chanting death to MPs.
00:08:21.760 They actually promote the group Hamas and tweet pictures of their balaclava guy reading terrorist manuals from Hamas itself.
00:08:31.080 It's super gross.
00:08:32.640 You don't have to be a sensitive soul to see that.
00:08:36.380 They've been banned, for example, from Hungary.
00:08:39.160 Here's the president, the prime minister of Hungary, Viktor Orbán, explaining why he's just not allowing that filth into his own country.
00:08:47.140 Zabos voltam rájuk, megmondom őszintén, hogy hogy hozhatják Magyarországot ilyen helyzetbe.
00:08:52.360 Nem a magyar kormánynak kellett volna itt közbelépni, nekik lehetett volna annyi ezzük, hogy nem hívnak meg ide egy ilyen együttest.
00:08:57.960 A rohadt vagy átkozott pénz ilyen fontos, ez is megéri.
00:09:01.080 De aztán lehiggadtam, és megnéztem, hogy milyen jogi lehetőségeink vannak, és szépen nyugodtan napokat dolgoztunk ezen, hogy megtaláljuk a megfelelő jogi megoldást.
00:09:13.160 A jogrendszerünk nagyon világosan azon az állásponton van, hogy Magyarország egy szabad ország.
00:09:18.540 A békeszigete és az alapvetés az, hogy itt békében élünk egymással.
00:09:23.580 És senkit nem bánthatnak, verbálisan sem, a vallás vagy a származása miatt.
00:09:28.240 Ennek itt nincsen helye. Ha Magyarországra jössz, be kell tartnod a törvényeinket. Inkább ne gyere, barátom.
00:09:58.240 Na-n going haladjon nyitunk.
00:10:02.360 A lehetősége the gyö transportation a ész CD-u kettőkkel hányak,atbik a pénzimentet.
00:10:09.880 Téledben mét kőzt tegyen helyatkoznak a rámfájáncle be maravilált képviseljétek vissztra copró hectányly.
00:10:18.300 himself is affiliated with different terrorist groups. He's recused himself from all dealings
00:10:24.420 with the Tamil Tigers terrorist group because he used to support them as a lawyer. And he was just
00:10:30.400 found out that while he was a sitting MP under Justin Trudeau, twice he went to bat to get
00:10:36.060 terrorists into Canada. This is part and parcel of the work that every member of parliament does.
00:10:42.940 And in this particular case, I was executing my duties as a member of parliament, one that
00:10:48.880 I believe the constituents expect me to do. He was rejected on national security grounds
00:10:53.440 though, which is quite extraordinary. We couldn't find any other case like that. And now you're
00:10:56.980 minister in charge of national security, border security. Do you defend that decision now? Do
00:11:02.820 you regret writing those letters? Just to be very clear, the Ministry of Relief Regiment
00:11:10.180 does contemplate advocacy by a range of individuals, including members of parliament.
00:11:16.680 In the context of minister, that would be inappropriate. And I have instructed my office
00:11:21.960 not to issue support letters of that nature, because ultimately the decision will be coming
00:11:28.020 to me as an individual. So of course NECAP is allowed. Now, I'm not saying that NECAP should
00:11:35.140 be punished criminally for their views. I believe in free speech, even for idiots, but they're not
00:11:42.600 Canadians. They're foreigners. And to bring that terrorism to Canada, we don't have to justify it
00:11:49.240 at all. Canada can keep out foreigners for any reason or no reason. Of course we never do. And I
00:11:56.520 doubt we'll do it here because if Mark Carney were to keep out those Hamas supporters, well,
00:12:01.380 that's his base he's taking on. And I think that there's nothing he cares about more than maintaining
00:12:07.920 warm relations with Hamas. As you know, he's been prime minister only a few months and he's already
00:12:12.580 received a thank you letter from Hamas. He's not getting along very well with Donald Trump these
00:12:17.100 days. Trump said it looks like Canada's going to have tariffs, maybe perpetually.
00:12:21.800 Fuck with Canada. I think Canada could be one where they'll just pay tariffs. It's not really a
00:12:27.220 negotiation. We're working very diligently with Europe. Yeah. So he's not so elbows up for Trump,
00:12:35.200 but boy, he'll go to the bat for NECAP. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:12:39.740 Well, I've been traveling to the United Kingdom for years watching as that country slowly comes to
00:12:53.380 terms with mass immigration, especially mass Muslim immigration and a phenomenon that can no longer be
00:13:02.680 hushed up. I'm talking about largely Islamic, largely Pakistani grooming gangs, or another way that we
00:13:10.920 would say that is rape gangs. Combine that with other rapes at migrant hotels. And I think the country
00:13:19.360 is starting to rebel. So many different issues jammed into one, including censorship of the very words I
00:13:26.500 just said. Joining me now, on location at a migrant hotel where Brits are protesting, and yet there are
00:13:35.400 counter protesters in support of the migrants, is Jack Hatfield, a British journalist. Jack,
00:13:42.060 it's great to see you. Thank you for joining us live and on location. Tell us where you are.
00:13:47.260 Yes, I'm right outside the Britannia Hotel in Canary Wharf, which you can see just behind me
00:13:54.320 across the road, where we have police fans and a ring of steel in front of this hotel,
00:14:01.140 where we have protesters who are just on the other side of the camera from me, who've been here since
00:14:06.440 Monday night, making their views clear. Obviously, not all migrants are rapists, and not all Pakistani
00:14:14.880 migrants are rapists. But there are statistics collected in the United Kingdom that show Afghan and
00:14:23.540 Pakistani and Bangladeshi migrants do commit rape at 20, sometimes 40 times the normal national
00:14:32.040 average. This is something that's very difficult to talk about, because it sounds on the face of it
00:14:37.680 to be racist. But as Ben Shapiro would say, facts don't care about your feelings. Those are the facts,
00:14:43.760 Jack, or am I wrong? No, you're exactly right. Those are the facts. In comparing British nationals to
00:14:53.140 Afghani nationals, Afghan nationals are 22 times more likely to be done for sexual assault in the United
00:15:01.440 Kingdom than British nationals. Now, I believe it's 59 out of 1,000 Afghans versus 6 out of 1,000
00:15:10.520 British nationals. And bear in mind, of course, that figure of the 6,000 British nationals,
00:15:16.340 of course, includes second generation Pakistani immigrants. So those who may have been involved
00:15:23.020 or done for the grooming gangs in Rochdale and in other places in this country, they would be included
00:15:28.420 under that British figure. So perhaps it's an even greater number, but we don't collect the statistics
00:15:34.720 on that thing. You know, it's not that hard to figure out why if you go to some of these countries,
00:15:43.140 women are treated as second-class citizens. They're covered from head to toe. In some countries,
00:15:48.720 they're not allowed to go out without their male guardian. And it's partly because of a chauvinistic
00:15:54.800 society, but partly it's a defensive tactic. If you let a woman go out uncovered or alone in those
00:16:01.260 countries, she will be attacked. And so you bring over hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of
00:16:07.480 people from those medieval societies, and you just dump them in the street in the UK where women dress
00:16:14.940 in a modern fashion that would be considered scandalous, that would be considered as prostitutes
00:16:21.160 back in Pakistan or Afghanistan. So I don't know if it's a racist comment, but it's a comment on the
00:16:26.680 culture of misogyny. There really is rape culture in the world. It's probably not where a lot of
00:16:32.460 feminists say it is. There really is a, you know, a handmaid's tale in the world, but it's not in some
00:16:38.640 Christian nation. It's Islamic nations. And I think that's why a YouGov poll just out today
00:16:46.100 shows that most Brits think that Islam is a net negative to the country. I think these things are
00:16:54.180 extremely hard to talk about, Jack. And anyone who does talk about them is called racist or
00:16:59.220 Islamophobic. But I get the feeling that the Brits who are finally protesting, they just don't care
00:17:05.220 anymore about being called names. Yes, you're right. I was in Epping on Sunday and just last day,
00:17:14.100 yesterday, when there were more protests on this. And parents who talked to me and said, you know,
00:17:19.500 we're not far right. We're just local. We're local people, local parents concerned about what's
00:17:25.380 happening to their wives, their sisters, their daughters. And the far right label just simply
00:17:30.720 doesn't wash anymore. There was a very unusual thing that was at first denied by authorities,
00:17:36.900 but then admitted when it was impossible to further deny. And that was a very strange phenomenon
00:17:42.200 of police escorting in pro-migrant professional protesters. So there's grassroots British protesters
00:17:53.180 against these migrant hotels. And a migrant hotel is when several hundred migrants are placed all in
00:17:58.980 one place. A hotel is rented out in its totality. We have some of that here in Canada too, by the way.
00:18:04.440 And it's almost all men in these hotels. So you can imagine hundreds of Afghan or other young men
00:18:12.180 sexually frustrated, perhaps in a certain community. Anyways, Brits were coming out to
00:18:18.480 protest and the police escorted in left wing counter protesters. What's that all about? Why did police
00:18:27.480 do that? You think they were looking for some sort of a conflagration so they could use that as an
00:18:33.620 excuse to crack down on the protesters? Sort of like a agent provocateur. They wanted a quarrel so they could
00:18:41.180 clamp down on the anti-migrant protests.
00:18:46.020 Yes, obviously we can't say this for certain, but it really didn't look that way, you know, to the untrained eye.
00:18:53.180 We had the stand up to racism counter protesters, which is one of the biggest anti-fascist groups here in Britain
00:19:01.880 that is funded by the Trade Union Congress, receives government money as well. And these people are, you know,
00:19:09.440 professional protesters in many ways. So yes, so the police walked these people from the Epping tube station
00:19:16.840 towards the protest at the Bell Hotel there in Epping sometime earlier last week. And then they were
00:19:25.320 ferried in vans back to the tube station afterwards. Of course, the reasoning here is
00:19:32.680 baffling because there is no reason why there's no God-given right to have your counter-protests
00:19:39.160 at the exact same place as the main protest has taken place. Why on earth they couldn't have let the stand up to racism
00:19:46.560 protesters, who just have a much right to free speech as the rest of us, you know, exist in the middle of the town
00:19:54.400 rather than at the Bell Hotel, where there would have been no conflict to take place at all.
00:20:00.960 Yeah, I've never heard of police acting as sort of Uber drivers for left-wing protesters before.
00:20:06.720 Let's talk for a moment about where you are. I've been to Canary Wharf. It's a very modern part of London.
00:20:12.800 It was totally rebuilt actually by the Canadian entrepreneurs, the Reichman family in the era of
00:20:18.960 Margaret Thatcher. So I guess this is going back more than 40 years ago. It really brought a modern,
00:20:25.600 sleek, new financial center to London. It really marked the revival of the financial sector in that
00:20:32.320 city. It's gorgeous. It's metal and glass and chrome, and it's not cheap. I checked online and the
00:20:40.080 hotel that has been taken over in totality for these migrants, it was about 400-plus pounds a night,
00:20:46.720 which in Canadian money, that's about 700 bucks a night. Now, London's an expensive city, but
00:20:53.840 that is a luxury hotel. It's not a rumor, it's a fact. They really did give this four-star hotel to
00:21:03.680 migrants who just hopped on a boat. Have you confirmed that with your own eyes?
00:21:08.080 Yes, it is entirely true that this has now been taken over by the office for and riding hotel.
00:21:14.880 However, it is unclear whether there are any migrants in their hurry. Nobody has seen everything.
00:21:20.400 Nobody has seen the buckles to bring them in. Perhaps the fact that the protest here is still
00:21:25.280 ongoing. It's putting off the government from moving people into the hotel to begin with. I believe
00:21:30.720 the official reason for this hotel being taken over now is that it's been used as an overflow for when
00:21:37.840 they expect more migrants to come in boats over the summer months. So this hotel, which as you can see
00:21:44.240 behind me, is absolutely just massive. It goes all the way up. It is huge, and it could fit just so
00:21:51.840 many people in there. So when they actually pack this place full of migrants, there will just be
00:21:58.800 too many around the local area. I had one person say to me, the school holidays are coming up and
00:22:06.720 parents are now concerned that their kids even walk past the hotel.
00:22:10.320 Yeah, I mean, these are people who their very first act was to break the law to come illegally in most
00:22:17.920 cases to destroy their documents, their passports, throw them in the sea or rip them up. They often
00:22:24.080 don't know the language. They come from places, like I say, that have an inherent hostility to women.
00:22:32.240 And I think many of them have an inherent hostility to the UK itself. I think these are just shoppers.
00:22:39.280 They're shopping around. Most of them came from France, but they get a better deal in the UK. They
00:22:44.800 like the UK. Maybe they like its welfare. Maybe they like the fact that there's a huge pre-existing
00:22:51.360 population of fellow expats from their countries. I don't know why. But I actually don't think any real
00:22:59.760 people believe that these are genuinely endangered refugees. I think everyone knows they're coming to
00:23:06.000 France, which is a safe and lovely country. I just think that this is a real case of the emperor has
00:23:15.200 no clothes. I don't think anyone still, I think people put up with it for a bit, just out of good
00:23:20.720 humor and good nature. But it's so overwhelming now. And the rapes, maybe they're only being reported
00:23:26.480 more now and they were covered up before. But I think that's the, that's what the spark that lit
00:23:31.680 the fire. Would you say so, Jack? Yes, definitely. The actual protest in Epping happened because an
00:23:38.640 Ethiopian migrant was allegedly sexually assaulted a school girl in the center of town. Now, as you said
00:23:46.880 before me, we've been having this a lot today. There are people who drive cabs and a font to show their
00:23:52.480 support. A lot of black cabs and van drivers, the traditional, the black cab traditional London
00:23:57.520 taxis have been supporting people out here in this protest. But yes, it was a migrant who sexually
00:24:02.240 assaulted, allegedly sexually assaulted a young girl in the center of Epping who was then arrested
00:24:06.640 before that earlier this month. And that's what kicked off. That's what kicked it off there. And that's
00:24:10.880 certainly what's been kicking off more of these things in the rest of the country. We're just seeing now
00:24:16.560 in the last few hours, more protest breakout in Ashfield in Nottinghamshire, down on the coast of
00:24:22.160 South Hampton. There's more protest expected in other places this weekend, for example, Norwich.
00:24:28.160 This is going to continue, especially where asylum hotels are. Now, there was a stabbing of three
00:24:36.880 young girls at a Taylor Swift themed party. This was last year by a man who himself was born in the UK to
00:24:44.720 refugees from Rwanda. He was a convert to Islam and he took a knife and he stabbed, stabbed, stabbed
00:24:53.360 this party, murdered three girls. And that kicked off riots and counter like it was a whole meltdown
00:25:02.640 because it was such a shocking and brutal crime. And the government immediately lied about who the
00:25:09.120 perpetrator was. And the government immediately blamed, quote, right wing influences for the riots.
00:25:15.520 And your prime minister Keir Starmer set up a 24 hour a day court just to bang through prosecutions
00:25:22.320 of people who had talked about this on social media. It was a shocking response to a natural reaction
00:25:28.480 to a shocking crime. Do you think that the regime will try to do that again? Do you think they will
00:25:37.600 come in and try and arrest and try and charge for hate crimes and non crime hate incidents? Do you
00:25:46.320 think they're going to like it looks like it's spreading? I mean, Portsmouth. But you listen,
00:25:52.080 like I think by the time the weekend comes, there's going to be protests at 10 migrant hotels across the UK.
00:25:58.240 What's the government going to do? Because they want to contain this.
00:26:01.920 Yes, I think really, I don't know, I feel that there's a different air. There's something slightly
00:26:11.280 different than to what happened at Southport. I was there on the ground on the first day of the riots
00:26:16.720 there. Now, that was, it instilled a very instinctual violent reaction to a horrific crime
00:26:22.960 that happened there. Whereas this, where I've been around here at these protests over the last few weeks,
00:26:28.320 well, the last week or so, it's been so much more peaceful. There have been a lot of angry people,
00:26:33.920 of course, but the level of violence has been very, very minimal. It feels like people have a specific
00:26:41.680 targeted goal, which is get these asylum hotels out of our community. And there have been, as I said,
00:26:48.000 it's just completely local people. And a lot of just, you know, concerned parents who were not really
00:26:53.760 the types to kick off in the way that Southport and some of these other incidents happened.
00:27:00.960 But it all remains to be seen. There could be something else. There could be another incident,
00:27:04.560 which means tempest flare once again, and we could be in for another summer of riots. You know,
00:27:10.640 I do think there seems to be, you know, this is the third year now in a row where we've had
00:27:15.280 riots and protests over asylum hotels. There was one in Knowsley and outside Liverpool in 2023.
00:27:20.640 Obviously, Southport last year, it spread. And now here we have Epping, you know, Canary Wharf,
00:27:26.400 Ashfield, Southampton already. Is there something that may be in the British psyche that means
00:27:32.960 we're far more likely to protest in this way, perhaps? Yeah. I think it was you who filmed a mother
00:27:42.160 in Epping saying, I'm not right wing, I'm just a mum. Was that your video, Jack?
00:27:47.120 Yes, it was. That was Karen McIver, who was the mother of reform councillor
00:27:53.360 Jamie McIver in Epping. And I believe she herself was a reform parliamentary candidate. But, you know,
00:27:59.600 just because she stands for reform, which is now really the biggest normal right wing party in
00:28:03.760 Britain, does not make her far right at all. There's nothing far right about supporting Nigel
00:28:08.800 Raj or other people as well in this movement. You know, and she got a lot of criticism for being
00:28:15.120 a member of reform. But that she was representative, just as representative of many of the local
00:28:23.120 parents as anybody else, you know, just because you had a party affiliation does not mean immediately
00:28:28.640 she was far right or not speaking for everybody else. Here's a clip of her. I thought this was a
00:28:33.600 very interesting interview. Take a look. My children went to Epping St John's School,
00:28:38.000 and I was parent governor for four years. Epping is a wonderful place. The families
00:28:43.040 of the children that attend Epping School are wonderful. And we're here to support the family,
00:28:47.680 and we're here to support our town. What's happening, how we're being portrayed is not correct.
00:28:52.960 And we're here to make a difference. A strong message from strong women.
00:28:56.400 So what's the placard that you have here? We felt a lot of the press were incorrectly
00:29:03.040 reporting us on Friday morning after our protests on Thursday. And so we just wanted to make it really
00:29:09.840 clear that we're strong women. We're mums, we're sisters, we're aunties, we're, you know, we're parents
00:29:17.040 of the area. So we're just here to support. Yeah, the people here have been walking at the front have
00:29:25.280 been mostly women and girls doing the march. Do you think that's because that the people feel that a
00:29:30.640 lot of the people in the hotel have are a threat to women and girls? Everybody is really concerned
00:29:37.680 about who is in that hotel. Crime in the area is shocking. And this is a beautiful place to live.
00:29:44.240 And we are all very concerned, as are other people in other towns around the country. We need to stick
00:29:50.720 together peaceful protest and the government needs to listen to us. They need to listen to real people
00:29:57.280 on the ground, people that work hard and love their country. And we're here to protect that.
00:30:02.960 Our values are very important and we must protect them. You know, you mentioned Reform UK. I was up in
00:30:08.320 the district of Runcorn in Hellsby, which was a deep labour riding that flipped to reform. And I was up
00:30:15.280 there and I and I saw the reform literature and it was very simple. Freeze immigration. Stop the boats.
00:30:21.760 Like it couldn't be clearer. Now, I think the front line in the UK is you just want to freeze it or do
00:30:27.120 you want to have a net re-migration? That's a word that President Donald Trump is normalizing. He's used
00:30:33.680 that word at least half a dozen times that I've observed. And that's what they're doing. They have a
00:30:38.800 massive deportation project. I see that West Germany is building a special deportation
00:30:46.960 wing terminal at an airport that will specialize in handling deportations.
00:30:54.080 I think it's catching on in different jurisdictions. What will happen in the UK? I mean,
00:31:01.120 Nigel Farage still seems a little reluctant to call for mass deportations. I think he
00:31:07.040 thinks it sounds radical, but surely not as radical as abiding a thousand migrants a day coming across
00:31:13.520 in dinghies. Well, no, exactly. I completely agree. I think the only way for this to stop happening,
00:31:21.840 to stop having protests constantly is demigration, mass deportations. You know, we can't just turn up
00:31:29.840 the tap. There's so many of them who are here already. You know, we have so many here admitting
00:31:34.880 rates, sexual assaults, murders, all sorts of events. You know, just closing the door on more
00:31:40.800 people coming in won't fix the problem that's already here. And you're right. I think Nigel has
00:31:45.840 been a little bit retentant to call this. I believe he's still perhaps a little bit nervous trying to
00:31:51.040 play the crowd of the mainstream media a little or control the narrative will become quite moderate,
00:31:57.680 which is, of course, a fair play, you know, from a politician. But, you know, if reform do win in
00:32:03.280 2029 and they don't seize the opportunity to create a radical quality platform, I'm concerned for the
00:32:11.840 future of this country. Yeah. Nigel Farage himself said a few weeks ago, if we fail, what comes after us will
00:32:19.600 be quite dangerous. So here's a clip of that. On Epping, I don't think anybody in London even
00:32:30.320 understands just how close we are to civil disobedience on a vast scale in this country.
00:32:39.200 And I regret saying that. Do I understand how people in Epping feel? You bet your life I do.
00:32:46.480 You bet your life I do. And I'll bet you that most of the people outside that hotel in Epping
00:32:53.040 weren't far right or far left or anything like that. I'm just genuinely concerned.
00:32:59.440 Here's a question for you. Be very generous with your time, Jack. Thank you for that.
00:33:02.880 A few months ago, there were some Pakistani British men in Manchester airport who just
00:33:09.040 beat the living daylights out of some cops, women cops, and recently footage of an absolutely
00:33:14.800 bloodied female cop was finally released. In the first instance, those men were released
00:33:20.960 because a large Pakistani Muslim community said, let the boys go or you're going to have a riot on
00:33:27.120 your hands. And the police absolutely stood down. And I've heard several examples of that.
00:33:33.920 Whereas we've seen extreme policing. I mean, you just posted an image of someone who was thrown in
00:33:40.320 jail for 16 hours because he swore at a cop. Now, I don't recommend swearing at police. Nothing good
00:33:45.520 will come from that. But it really seems like there's two tier justice. There was the case of
00:33:51.120 Lucy Connelly, the the mom who tweeted something a little bit stupid, frankly, but she was thrown in
00:33:58.240 the clink for 31 months, which is longer than some of the actual rapists are. How much longer can this
00:34:06.320 two tier justice continue and still have the support of the British people? I mean, in a democracy,
00:34:13.360 you need the consent of the governed. That's the same with policing. Robert Peel's laws of policing.
00:34:19.920 You need the consent of the community. Unless you're a police state, you cannot manage a government
00:34:25.600 of a country unless the people are with you. At what point do people say the heck with it?
00:34:30.720 The entire establishment is untrustworthy and we are going to take things into our hands like they
00:34:35.280 did in Ballymene in Northern Ireland a few weeks ago when they actually walked onto the property of
00:34:40.960 some alleged rapists and burned their house down. Yeah, as you said, you're exactly right. It's
00:34:48.400 concerning. I don't think that the government wants to act and want to do the things that need to be done.
00:34:55.680 And if they don't continue to fear policing, then it is very concerning. Raj might be right. What
00:35:03.440 comes after him could be worse if he doesn't fix the problems. This country feels a little bit like
00:35:08.480 a police state right now. We still have some freedom of speech. Obviously, people are out here protesting.
00:35:13.040 I do worry. I do worry. It can't last much longer. Something has got to break, whether that's reform
00:35:24.240 coming into power or something else. I can't predict the future. I do think that in the end,
00:35:31.760 in the end, at some point, things will get better. But I have no idea how long it's going to take.
00:35:37.040 Yeah. Jack, whenever I talk about these things, I think of my friends who are Muslim or black or
00:35:44.400 whatever. And I try and make sure that I don't say anything in a burst of emotion that I wouldn't
00:35:51.520 say in conversation with them. And so I acknowledge that not all migrants are rapists. And I acknowledge
00:35:58.000 that frankly, if I was in some refugee camp in Calais, of course, I'd want to come to London. I mean,
00:36:04.960 you actually can't blame someone for taking free stuff. I mean, you have you absolutely can crack
00:36:10.640 down on someone for the sexual violence, which I think is what's sparking the rage. But I think
00:36:17.280 precisely the tolerance of the intolerable is what has turned people in your country and my country
00:36:23.520 against, quote, normal immigration. I think if we had small numbers of culturally and economically fit
00:36:31.200 immigration that was assimilated and it was patriotic, I think there's a there's a warm spirit
00:36:39.280 in both of our countries that would welcome people. I remember my friend Raheem Jaffer,
00:36:44.560 who came as a baby from Uganda when Idi Amin kicked out all the Muslims. He came when he was one year old
00:36:50.240 and he became an upstanding citizen in Edmonton. He ran for parliament. He he loved Canada.
00:36:56.800 I think that what's happened with the mass migration is it has destroyed the social license for frankly,
00:37:06.720 all immigration. And if I was a minority, if I was an immigrant, I would be furious that I was being
00:37:13.280 uh, tarred not by the cops or by the critics, but by the outrageous misconduct of these
00:37:21.200 fake asylum seekers. Anyway, that's, that's what I would say is that the government is what's turned
00:37:28.240 the people against immigration. Not that either of our countries is a mass immigration country,
00:37:33.040 but it's been off the hook lately. Yeah, exactly. The thing is obviously with mass migration,
00:37:40.000 it makes it completely impossible for anyone to integrate. If integration can only happen in very
00:37:46.400 small numbers, we have a community, a community, a community culture for people to immigrate into.
00:37:53.120 But when you have mass migration and when your culture becomes a mix and a longer something
00:37:58.560 completely different, completely alien, you know, the culture in London, you know, people speak MLE,
00:38:03.760 multicultural London, England, which is the accent around here. When you have that and there seems
00:38:10.480 to be a, a, a no culture, what can people integrate into? Yeah. Well, I, uh, I don't know if you know
00:38:18.720 this, Jack, but I'm coming to, uh, to the UK tonight. I'm hopping on a plane. I'm going to fly overnight
00:38:24.560 and I'm going to try and see these things with my own eyes. Hopefully I'll bump into you and you can
00:38:28.240 show me around and keep me out of trouble, Jack, or maybe we'll get in trouble together.
00:38:33.200 Um, but I love the UK. I've become a real Anglophile and I see the mother country, the source of so much
00:38:40.560 of our law and culture and language and history. I see it. Uh, I don't want it to fall into ruin. I,
00:38:48.800 I feel like sometimes we're living in the ruins of a superior civilization that came before us.
00:38:54.240 And that's deeply heartbreaking, like how it must've been in Rome after it was sacked or in
00:38:59.840 Constantinople after it was sacked. The thing is in, in both cases, they tried to defend those cities.
00:39:06.000 In the case of London, they're just opening up the gate. I mean, no Trojan horse needed. They're
00:39:11.120 just letting everyone in. And that's what scares me. I'm so glad I've had a chance to visit the UK
00:39:16.400 while there was still some Britishness left to it. Hopefully we'll be able to keep that. It's a
00:39:20.400 wonderful country and, uh, I love it. Yeah, it is. It is a fantastic country. I do love living here.
00:39:27.760 I'm now in London, you know, and despite it all, it is still a fantastic city. I have so many friends
00:39:33.200 here. It's great. You know, I do love the country that I was born in and the culture and my people
00:39:39.760 and everything that goes with it. Um, and I do think that, yeah, eventually, you know,
00:39:45.840 there'll be no more of this, you know, multiculturalism, mass migration. I think that
00:39:50.800 will come to an end. It's unsustainable and there is a bright dawn, but as we all know,
00:39:56.000 the darkest hour comes before us. I hope you're right. I'm also sober enough to realize that Egypt
00:40:03.920 was once a Christian country. Syria was once a Christian country. Uh, the whole of the Crusades
00:40:10.960 were to stop the empire of Islam. Istanbul was once the largest, richest, most Christian
00:40:19.520 city in the world called Constantinople. It is no more. And the Hagia Sophia was once
00:40:24.480 a mighty church. So I hope you're right, but sometimes the pendulum does not swing back.
00:40:30.400 Um, I don't know if there's any hope for Sweden. I was in Malmo, a city that's, I was in Marseille.
00:40:36.320 I don't know if there's any hope for that city. It'll become an Algerian or Moroccan city. Um,
00:40:42.240 I don't know. I hope that, I hope that the UK and Canada too can be saved. Thanks for giving
00:40:46.960 us so much time today. Yeah. Thank you for having me on. All right. I'll see you on Sunday.
00:40:52.720 Yeah, that's right. I'll see you there. There he is. Jack Hadfield, uh, commenting on the ground
00:40:57.920 outside a migrant hotel in Canary Wharf. And I got to tell you, if you don't know Canary Wharf,
00:41:02.560 it is a, I mean, fancy is the wrong word. It is a glisten, glistening, modern, uh, skyscraper
00:41:11.120 financial center. And they took a four-star hotel and are turning into a migrant hotel.
00:41:16.560 Just absolutely incredible. Stay with us more ahead.
00:41:20.080 Hey, welcome back. It is Friday late afternoon. As I record this, I'm going to rush home and pack my
00:41:33.920 bag and head to the airport. I'm going to go to the United Kingdom over the weekend. I'll be back
00:41:38.480 Monday afternoon, but I'm going to spend all day tomorrow and Sunday traveling around. I'm going
00:41:43.520 to try and connect with Jack Hadfield. I want to see these protests for myself. Are they severely
00:41:48.560 normal mom and dads who are finally waking up? What are the pro-migrant people saying? Are there
00:41:53.200 any real pro-migrant people or are they all paid professional protesters like, um, some of the
00:41:59.440 groups that Jack was referring to and groups that I myself have seen? Anyways, wish me well. I'll be
00:42:04.480 back on Monday and hopefully I'll have some reports for you over the weekend. Until next time,
00:42:10.560 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home,
00:42:13.760 goodnight, and keep fighting for freedom.