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Rebel News goes head-to-head with Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney in a battle for the right to free speech on January 14th, and we have a letter to back it up.
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Hello, my friends. We launched a new campaign today. I'm going to tell you all about it.
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We're taking on Chrystia Freeland, even though I think she's already fled with all the money.
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We're taking her to the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner,
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and we've got a heck of a letter to back it up. I'll show you that today.
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But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. It's the
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video version of this podcast. Please go to rebelnewsplus.com. Eight bucks a month,
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which might not sound like a lot to you, but boy, it adds up for us.
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Tonight, Rebel News goes into battle with Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney. We'll give
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you all the details. It's January 14th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Well, hi, everybody. Just today, we had a manager's meeting here at Rebel News for about
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90 minutes, trying to figure out our next strategic plan. And by that, I mean, every day we do our
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journalistic plan, our editorial plan. We're going to cover this story. We're going to fly over there
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to cover that story. Maybe we should hire a reporter here or there. Recently, we've been very busy.
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We've onboarded two new great journalists, Scarlett, who is hard at work in the greater Toronto area,
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covering the Iranian-Canadian protests, covering street protests involving Hamas activists.
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Scarlett's doing a great job. And Tamara, Tamara Leach, of course, who's based in Mendocin Hap,
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but by working carefully with her probation officer, we're able to move her around the country as a journalist.
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And I'm excited she was visiting us earlier this week. So that's part of our editorial strategy, right?
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What are we going to cover? We're off to Davos this weekend. That's part of our strategy.
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What about our bigger business plan? What need do we fill? How do we give people what they want?
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How are we different, for example, from other independent journalists? There's more of us now.
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Back when Rebel News started 10 years ago, it was just us. Now there's other groups like Juno and
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Western Standard and Epoch Times. So where does Rebel News fit? In some ways, we're the older brother.
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We've been around for more than 10 years. In some ways, we're the biggest. I don't know the exact
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statistics of our competitors, but I showed you just before Christmas that according to the app
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Hootsuite, we have more than 400 million views and impressions every year. So I think
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we're the biggest. But that, again, doesn't tell me what is our purpose. What is our mission? What's
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our strategy? What is our promise to people other than just telling the other side of the story?
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I think it's more of a tactic than a strategy, isn't it? And one of the things that I came back to
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at our meeting today was every now and then, when we cover a story that moves us in a good way or a bad
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way, we stop and we do something about it. You know what I mean? The pandemic was the biggest
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example of that. We saw people getting arrested for ridiculous reasons. So we created something
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called Fight the Fines that later grew into an enormous project defending, in the end, 3,000
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people, including many pastors, churches, truckers, and Tamera Leach herself. And I think it's that
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activism part that every once in a while, I mean, we don't do it all the time. We don't have an action
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every single day, but we have 10 or 15 news stories a day, right? So news is our bread and butter.
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But every once in a while, and I feel this especially, I look around and I say,
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so no one's going to do something about this? We've got a crazy story. No one's going to do
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anything? Not even the opposition? That's how I felt the other day when Garnet Genuist,
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the conservative MP from Northern Alberta, was banned from York University. I thought, well,
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no one's going to do something about it. We're going to do something about it. So we got our free
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speech truck. We went on campus and we showed that there was no problem asserting our freedom.
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That's what I mean by activism. When something just ticks me off and we got to do something.
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We're in another incidence of that right now. And I want to show you what I've spent the morning
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working on. It's a video that we just released and I'm going to play it in full now. It's about
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12 minutes or so. And then I'm going to come back on the other. I just,
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I don't want you to miss this video. And I also want to talk a little bit more about the video,
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sort of a meta conversation, because I want to tell you why I think it's so important that Rebel
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News not just report the news. We tell you the news, we give you our opinions. I think that's
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probably our main thing we do. But like I say, every once in a while, we look around and say,
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so no one's, no one's going to stop this. No one's going to try. No one's going to fill the void.
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All right, fine. We will. Here's an example of that. Take a look at the video I released earlier
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today. And don't go away. I'll be on the other side. So stick around and wait for me.
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It looks like Chrystia Freeland is getting away with it. While she was a Canadian MP,
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while she was Mark Carney's special advisor on Ukraine, she secretly took another job at the
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same time with the president of Ukraine himself, Vladimir Zelensky. She was working both sides.
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She was hired by Ukraine on December 22nd. She told Mark Carney, the prime minister,
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about it on December 24th. But they agreed to keep it a secret. On December 27th, the Saturday
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during the Christmas break, the Canadian government quickly sent $2.5 billion to Ukraine. And Freeland
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was working both sides of the deal. You cannot do that. That's illegal. I'll show you the law in a
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moment. That's called a conflict of interest. And this whole arrangement would have stayed a secret
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had Zelensky himself not tweeted about it more than a week later on January 5th. Now that tweet
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clearly surprised Carney and Freeland, who hadn't planned to make it public. Freeland broke the law
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and Carney probably did too. And so Freeland's first response after being outed was to say, well,
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she wasn't being paid by Ukraine. And anyway, she was going to quit as a Canadian member of parliament
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in a few weeks. But after public uproar grew, she quit immediately and hid from the media. I don't
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even know what country she's in now, but I could probably guess. And everybody seems to have dropped
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the matter. Well, everybody except us. What Chrystia Freeland did was illegal. That's not just my
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opinion. It's the law. Let me show you this letter written by our lawyer, Chad Williamson. It is a
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detailed three-page complaint to the conflict of interest and ethics commissioner, Conrad von Finkenstein.
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I really want you to read this letter for yourself. You can find it at our special website,
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auditfreeland.com. We need a whole forensic audit of what happened, how and why Freeland's Ukraine job
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was kept a secret, what her involvement was in the $2.5 billion blowout, how that money is being
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accounted for, who got it, and what penalties Freeland will face for doing all of this. I'm going to read
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you parts of the letter now, but please read it for yourself. It's only three pages long, and I promise
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you, you'll learn more about what Chrystia Freeland did wrong in those three pages than in all the
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mainstream media reporting on this subject combined. And that's the thing. Once Freeland quit as an MP,
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the regime media basically said, oh, well, she's gone now. Nothing to see here. Let's talk about
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something else. And the opposition parties dropped it too. We have a better idea. Now, you might remember
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we hired Chad Williamson as our lawyer to sue Trudeau's crooked Justice Minister David Lamedi
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when Lamedi illegally deleted his government Twitter account to hide his tracks after the
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federal court ruled the Emergencies Act was illegally applied by him. Now, we won that battle. Lamedi had
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to stop deleting his records. We caught the Justice Minister breaking the law, and we stopped him.
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Just huge. Chad was also our lawyer the last time we sued the Liberal Debates Commission
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for trying to keep Rebel News reporters out. He is our winningest lawyer, actually.
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So let me show you his letter to the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner. I'm going to read
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it. Dear sir, we act for Rebel News Network Limited and Mr. Ezra Levant. On their behalf,
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we formally request that your office initiate an examination under Section 45 of the Conflict of
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Interest Act into the conduct of the Honorable Chrystia Freeland. The matter concerns her receipt
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of a personal, professional opportunity from the administration of Ukraine while concurrently
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participating in the allocation of multi-billion dollar financial aid packages to that same state
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as a member of the Canadian government and as a member of parliament. The proximity of these events
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warrants rigorous scrutiny to ensure the integrity of the executive of this country. And then he's
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got another chapter called Factual Matrix. The chronology of these events is not merely
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suggestive. It is extremely concerning. I won't read the whole thing there. Chad outlines the dates I
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just mentioned to you. Then he digs into the law and quickly dispatches Freeland's attempted excuse
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of not being paid. Inquiry Foundations and the Unpaid Fallacy. Sections 4 and 5. The minister's
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suggestion that the unpaid nature of the role mitigated to conflict is legally insufficient.
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Under Section 2, a private interest is defined by exclusion. It does not require pecuniary gain.
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Prestige and international standing clearly constitute a private interest. Accordingly, there are reasonable
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grounds for inquiry regarding what? Section 4, conflict of interest. Whether the minister exercised
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official power in a manner that provided an opportunity to further her private interest
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in a prestigious post-parliamentary career. Two, Section 5, general duty. Whether the minister
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met her mandatory duty to arrange her private affairs in a manner that will prevent the public
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office holder from being in a conflict of interest. Now, here's the heart of the letter. This part is
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just devastating to Freeland, who clearly broke the law. I'm not surprised to you. I mean, this is a woman who
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illegally seized bank accounts of hundreds of her political enemies during the trucker convoy.
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So, why would she follow the law when it comes to shoveling $2.5 billion from Canadian taxpayers to her
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new boss? Let me read these points. Substantive statutory considerations. We request that your office
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immediately determine if the minister's conduct is consistent with the following prohibitions.
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Section 6.1, decision-making. Participating in a decision where the official knows or reasonably
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should know they are in a conflict of interest. Section 7, preferential treatment. Whether the
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$2.5 billion allocation constitutes preferential treatment based on the identity of the organization
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that offered the minister employment. Section 8, insider information. Whether non-public information
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was used to further the minister's private interest in securing the advisory role. Section 9, influence.
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Whether the minister's position was used to influence a decision of the prime minister or cabinet
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to further her own career trajectory. Section 10, offers of employment. Whether the exercise of official
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power was influenced by plans for or offers of outside employment. Section 11, gifts and advantages.
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Whether the professional offer or any other benefit or advantage conferred constitutes an advantage that
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might reasonably be seen to have been given to influence official duties. Just absolutely damning.
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Please, please read the whole letter for yourself at auditfreeland.com. I really wish the conservative
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opposition party had made this demand of the conflict of interest and ethics commission. They have access to
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unlimited legal support as opposition MPs. Obviously, we take no government money. If you want to help me
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cover the cost of this upcoming legal battle that we're getting into thick, you can do that right now
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at auditfreeland.com. Thanks. Okay, back to the letter. This part is really interesting. Ready?
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Pursuant to Section 24-1, a reporting public office holder must disclose an offer of outside employment
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to the commissioner within seven days. Having received the offer on December 22nd, the statutory deadline was
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December 29th. We require confirmation of the exact date your office received this disclosure.
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Hey, isn't that a great point? I bet you she did not disclose it to the commissioner in time or at all
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until it became public. This was when Freeland and Carney were still keeping it quiet.
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And remember I mentioned that Chad sued and beat Justice Minister David Lamedi for illegally
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destroying government records? Well, we've included a part about that too. Let me read it.
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Our clients remain concerned with the preservation of digital records during ministerial transitions.
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In Rebel News Network versus Lamedi, we litigated the unacceptable risk of record scrubbing following a
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minister's departure. We demand that your office issue an immediate directive to the minister's office
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and the Privy Council office to preserve all communications, including encrypted messaging
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between Ms. Freeland and Prime Minister Carney from December 20th, 2025 to present.
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All internal departmental briefing notes regarding the $2.5 billion gift.
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Seriously, don't you think that's in the public interest? And really,
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if Rebel News doesn't demand that these records be kept, who will?
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So the letter ends with our lawyer demanding that the conflict of interest commissioner answer six
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questions for us within the next 15 days. And they are such good questions. I wish they had been
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asked in question period in Parliament, but let me read them to you now. Question one, procedural
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compliance. On what exact date did your office receive a formal written disclosure from Minister Freeland
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regarding the December 22nd offer as mandated by the seven-day deadline in Section 24-1? That's a great
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one. Question two, the recusal record. Did the minister provide a written notice of recusal regarding
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the December 27th $2.5 billion funding decision pursuant to Section 21? And was this recusal
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subsequently entered into the public registry under Section 25? That is a great question. Did she step
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away from the decision? Of course we know she didn't. Question three, contemporaneous advice. Did the
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minister seek or receive written advice from your office between December 22nd and December 27th
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regarding the ethical compatibility of her participation in aid-related cabinet decisions
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while entertaining a personal professional offer from the recipient state? Great question.
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Question four, classification of interest. Does your office maintain that a high-level advisory
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appointment to a foreign sovereign state, regardless of remuneration, is an exempt interest under Section
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2? Or does it constitute a gift or other advantage under Section 11? Yeah, there's no way that simply
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saying, oh, I'm not getting cash means this is legitimate work. It's crazy. Question five, evidence
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preservation. What specific enforceable directives has your office issued to the minister's staff and the
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Privy Council office to prevent the scrubbing or deletion of digital records, specifically encrypted
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messages, logs involving Mark Carney prior to the minister's resignation? And finally, preferential
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treatment inquiry. Will your office's examination specifically investigate whether the $2.5 billion
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allocation constitutes preferential treatment to an organization under Section 7 based on the minister's
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pending transition to that organization? We expect a prompt acknowledgement of this request, a fulsome response
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to our queries, and a timeline for your office's preliminary assessment on or before the deadline captioned above.
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This is a matter of grave public interest, I think, don't you? It's not just the money
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being hoovered out of the country on a Saturday right after Christmas. It's that every single check
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and balance was broken to get the money. They didn't register it. They didn't disclose it. They didn't
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recuse. This is all dirty. Chrystia Freeland secretly broke the law and Mark Carney himself helped keep it a secret.
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Everyone's in on it. We have sent the letter to the commissioner. His name is Mr. Von Frankenstein.
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It's a great letter. He has the power to answer these questions, but he also has the power to bury these questions.
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I promise you, I'll let you know what he says. Go to auditfreeland.com. Read the letter. If you agree with me
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that our lawyer's letter is great, please help me crowdfund his legal bill. You can do that right
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there at the same website, auditfreeland.com. Thanks very much, my friends. You know,
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no one should be above the law, especially not someone as unethical as Chrystia Freeland. Go to
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auditfreeland.com. Read the complaint for yourself and help us with our legal war chest because this
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battle is just starting. Thanks for your support. You know, I always get nervous and excited when
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we launch a legal battle like that, uh, nervous because I don't want to lose. It's embarrassing
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to lose. I also know it's likely that we're going to lose because we fight these uphill battles,
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David versus Goliath. The other guys have all the advantages, all the money, all the endless legal
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budgets and we're the little guy. Um, I'm excited though, because I know it is possible to win. As
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I mentioned in that video, Chad Williamson is our winningest lawyer. He beat the, um, debates
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commission in 2021. In 2025, they just surrendered to him. Um, he beat David Lamedi. So I think he's got
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a good chance. And if you read the letter, you'll, I think it's an excellent letter. Um, but I am also
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aware that these battles cost a lot of money. And that's one thing when I think of our competitors,
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I, I somehow, I sometimes daydream. What would it be like if we didn't have legal bills? What
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would it be like if our people were never arrested? So we didn't have to defend them in court or sue
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the police? What would be, it be like if we didn't sign up for these legal battle? I remember when we
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sued, uh, here's another legal battle that Chad Williamson won for us. I didn't mention this in
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the video. Um, when we sued Stephen Gilboa, if you recall, for blocking us on Twitter, and you might
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think that's a petty thing, but it set the precedent that governments cannot
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cut you off from information just because they don't like you. So we spent, it was about 90
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or a hundred thousand dollars fighting that. And you might say, Oh my God, that's such a waste of
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money. And sometimes I feel that way because you could hire, I mean, imagine how many journalists
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you could hire if you weren't spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawsuits. But
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you know, journalists are important and opinion commentary is important, but who's going to stand
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up and stop them? We stopped Stephen Gilboa from banning people on Twitter. And we actually
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replicated that same lawsuit so many times. We basically set the standard. We set the precedent
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and we've stopped that misconduct. Um, we beat David Lametti, the justice minister who tried to
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destroy his public records. And if we can put a dent in Chrystia Freeland here, I think that is a very
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valuable thing we're giving to the country. And I think it's in some ways because of my own unusual
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background, I was a lawyer, but I didn't really practice a lot. I was in politics as a staffer.
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I briefly ran, as you may know, but I stepped aside for Stephen Harper. So I've got this mix inside me.
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I'm not just journalistic. I'm also political. I'm also a former lawyer and I myself have been the target
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of bad guys trying to get me with lawfare lawsuits. So I sometimes think of lawsuits as an instrument
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to challenge some sort of power. So at least I hope you think that way.
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And I really think that Chrystia Freeland is getting away scot-free here. I think she's getting away
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in an outrageous manner. And if we look at the timeline, she was hired by Ukraine. She did disclose
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it quickly to the prime minister, but he kept it a secret. I think one of the most exciting questions
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in Chad Williamson's lawyer's letter is when did she, as is required, let the Conflict of Ethics
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Commissioner know she got the job? I bet she didn't do it. Anyways, I just wanted to give you some of
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those thoughts on our big campaign today because it's the part of Rebel News I love the best. And I'd
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love to hear your thoughts on that too. Do you like our news better? Do you like our commentary? One of my
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favorite things, let's be honest, is when we send journalists places. I really loved seeing Alexa
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down there with the Venezolanos and Cubanos in Miami cheering the removal of Maduro. What did you think
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of that? But I think when Rebel News gets into the fight, that's to me, that's just chef's kiss.
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That's the favorite thing. Anyways, those are my thoughts. Stay with us. After the break,
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we'll talk to Sam Cooper about Mark Carney's trip to Communist China. Stay with us.
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Well, Mark Carney, our Prime Minister, has started a global dictatorship tour, if I may. He just touched
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down in Communist China. His tweet announcing his arrival, of course, makes no mention of human rights,
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industrial sabotage, or democratic infiltration, what we saw in various elections, especially in
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greater Toronto area. After he's done in China, he'll visit two other spots. One is Qatar,
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the tiny Gulf nation that is the chief sponsor of Hamas, now that Iran is running out of cash.
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And then he'll end the whole thing, well, where we're going to be, at Davos, at the World Economic
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Forum Summit. That's Mark Carney's kind of place. As you know, he was a director of the World Economic
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Forum for years, a very China-centric place. It's been a while since Canada has had a Prime
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Minister go to China, but Mark Carney is quite familiar with them. He's met with Xi Jinping
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himself in his capacity as chairman of Brookfield Asset Management. And remember that Mark Carney has
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not divested himself of his stock. So he's going with two hats on. One, the Prime Minister of Canada,
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one of the other, a major stockholder in Brookfield Asset Management. But let's get back to the first
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point. How do we deal with China? It is a fact that they import a variety of Canadian exports,
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including, for example, canola, which they put under an enormous tariff. I understand that
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Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has accompanied Mark Carney clearly with one thing on his agenda,
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get that import tax removed. The Chinese, of course, will want something in return,
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perhaps softening or removing the tariff on Chinese electric vehicles, a tariff brought in
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to protect Ontario's auto industry. But what about their meddling in our democracy? What about the
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Chinese consulate putting an actual bounty on a democratic opposition, an opponent, Chinese-Canadian,
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in the last federal election? Will any of that come up? Well, there's one man who I would trust on
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this stuff more than anyone else. He's an independent journalist who has really made a name for
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himself on the foreign interference issue. You can probably guess who I'm talking about. His name
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is Sam Cooper. He's the boss of The Bureau. You can find it at thebureau.news. And he joins me now. Sam,
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thanks very much for coming back on the show. You're so busy. I'm grateful to have a few moments of your
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time. Put aside Qatar and the World Economic Forum. Tell me what we should be watching with Mark Carney's
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trip to China. Well, I think Michael Kovrig, who your viewers know very well, was kidnapped in the
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Man Wanzhou pressure case. He's been very vocal, Ezra, in the past week, airing out his well-founded and
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hard-earned knowledge of what Carney could be up to in China. And Mr. Kovrig laid it out. He said,
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Jacques Ressian was there a week before Carney in Beijing. Jacques Ressian has deep business ties
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and has had for decades with Beijing. He's there, according to Mr. Kovrig, the expert, apparently to
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pave the way for what may be possible in business dealings. And so, as you said in your intro,
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it's no secret now to Canadians that China is up to no good in our country. But I think the real story
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is here that not only is Mark Carney through Brookfield deeply exposed in his own business
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dealings to China. I think, Ezra, we've talked about how Mr. Carney scored a $250 emergency loan
00:25:33.980
on a Brookfield real estate investment in China in 2024. That's shortly before he replaced Justin Trudeau.
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So I testified about that in Parliament as being a potential conflict. But beyond that,
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as Mr. Kovrig and I and others have noted, powerful business industrialists connected to
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Jean Chrétien in Montreal have essentially been writing Canada's China policy for decades. And Mr. Kovrig,
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I and other experts think they're the ones that are driving, that will be driving sort of the agenda
00:26:07.100
for Mark Carney in his visit to Beijing. And that worries me and a lot of experts on China.
00:26:12.300
You know, I remember when Jean Chrétien announced he was going to go work in China,
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if my recollection is accurate, he announced that publicly just six weeks after he finished his term
00:26:23.980
as PM. I think there was no way he didn't know in advance that was his plans. I don't think he was
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silent, incommunicado, and then suddenly when he was done being PM, he negotiated. I think he was warming to
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China the whole time. But in any event, for 20 years, he's been deeply involved in China with the
00:26:43.500
Demare family that his own child married into. So he's full on in China. But you've got to say,
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okay, he's a businessman now. He's a lobbyist now. He's sort of a grand figure in the Liberal Party,
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but he really hasn't been, I don't think, an advisor to the government in Canada. But
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him meeting with the Chinese in advance of Mark Carney, that really feels like he was there
00:27:07.500
to soften the ground, to shape the battlefield, so to speak. And so I think my question is,
00:27:15.980
will this serve liberal interests, personal interests, corporate interests, Demare interests,
00:27:20.940
Chrétien interests, or will it serve the Canadian interests? Because I think they're different.
00:27:25.820
I have no problem with Canada trading with China. It's impossible for us not to.
00:27:30.540
But what I'm worried about is that this, everything will be skewed to favor the in-group,
00:27:36.300
the Chrétien crowd, the insiders. And remember that Carney himself is still an insider with those
00:27:41.580
shares. I'm just worried that instead of a political deal, we're getting a business deal
00:27:47.020
done by the state, but for the benefit of the few. That's my worry. And you know,
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five to 10 years ago, a lot of people could still claim this sounds like a conspiracy theory,
00:27:57.740
but it's not anymore. Ezra, you mentioned canola. I reported on a CSIS document for the Bureau.News
00:28:06.060
in the wake of my revelations at Global News on election interference. This was really not noticed,
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but it said, CSIS assessed that during the Mun Wanzhou crisis, China's Ministry of State Security was
00:28:20.300
putting maximum pressure on Canadian industrialists because they believed that the industrialists had
00:28:27.580
maximum leverage with senior Canadian politicians, re Justin Trudeau. This CSIS document, and people can
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go to the Bureau.News, assessed that China was calibrating its election interference in 2019
00:28:40.140
to secure the release of Mun Wanzhou. And they were calibrating their support across all three major
00:28:50.220
political parties while still supporting Justin Trudeau. Let me underline that. The document says
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Justin Trudeau was favored by China, but to show that China was a little displeased with Mun's
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detention, they started to scatter their election interference goodies around to different parties.
00:29:08.540
And again, let me underline, Richardson's in Saskatchewan, a big grain trader, was mentioned in that
00:29:15.100
document. And as you say, and I think I agree, the Quebec industrialists would be even at the higher
00:29:21.740
level of the pyramid of influence with China and influence on Mark Carney, Jacques Chrétien,
00:29:28.140
even some conservatives such as Brian Mulroney probably had that similar influence.
00:29:33.100
You know, I understand Mark Carney's argument. He's saying we have to diversify
00:29:38.540
our export markets because the United States tariff position is confusing and scary. And Trump just
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this week was saying he doesn't know if he wants to renegotiate the US MCA trade deal. I can understand
00:29:51.100
why, whether you're left wing or right wing, that means diversify. That said, 80% of our exports go to
00:29:58.620
the States, only 5% to China. And by the way, what China really wants from Canada is our raw materials.
00:30:05.340
They want our coal, our potash, our oil. And we haven't really built the proper infrastructure. Like,
00:30:13.660
we haven't built an oil pipeline. It's certainly not one that looks like it'll be speedy.
00:30:19.420
I, I'm also, but my point is by, by wooing China, by bending the knee to China morally,
00:30:28.540
I'm worried that the United States might have a bad reaction to that if they think we're getting too
00:30:33.100
chummy. If they think we're abandoning the US orbit, this, instead of diversifying our exports,
00:30:39.260
this might actually lead to some backlash. And listen, Canada is an independent country. I don't
00:30:44.220
want it to be a puppet of the US. But do you think there's a risk that if Mark Carney is too friendly
00:30:50.860
with Xi Jinping, that might get a reaction from Marco Rubio?
00:30:56.220
Ezra, I absolutely believe that's the case. And let me point to a great story that you and your
00:31:02.300
network broke. That was the Chinese PLA training in Canada's Arctic. That's the exact type of episode
00:31:09.340
that my sources, who are at a senior level in the US government, also good people in Canada's
00:31:14.700
government say. Canada has not only been in bed with China, with Jean Chrétien and his business
00:31:20.940
friends in Montreal for decades. Remember, this started with Pierre Trudeau, who recognized the CCP
00:31:27.580
over Taiwan. And as a new book reveals, that set a bad model for the rest of the world.
00:31:34.300
This is the concern of the American government, who I believe is up
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every hour of the night these days, planning for a potential, the shock scenario of a war with Beijing
00:31:44.940
that over their plans to attack Taiwan within the next year or two. And so Canada, by Mark Carney,
00:31:51.980
of course, we need to be sovereign, we need to get the best deal. President Donald Trump is being
00:31:57.500
very bellicose, harsher than any recent American president, but they are protecting their interests.
00:32:04.540
And I'll circle back to that great story you broke about the PLA training in the Arctic.
00:32:09.980
Look, as we both know, when we're talking about Trump wanting to buy Greenland, China and Russia
00:32:17.740
are already involved in Canada's Arctic. This is a major concern. And Mark Carney scoring deeper trade
00:32:23.180
deals, that's sending us on the road to destruction very quickly, I believe, I'm afraid.
00:32:29.740
Yeah. You know, I mean, Trump has an audacious style. I really recommend to people to read his
00:32:36.620
old book called The Art of the Deal, which was pre politics. I mean, he was always political,
00:32:40.620
but it was about how he likes to negotiate. And he talked about making outrageous demands,
00:32:46.060
then backing down. So his strong demands appeared very, very modest by comparison.
00:32:50.780
He talks about putting the other guy off balance by saying, you know, throwing out curveballs.
00:32:55.820
If you read how he did business in New York City, which is a very cutthroat real estate environment,
00:33:01.900
you can see some of those traits at work now. And I don't think he denies them. I don't think anyone
00:33:06.300
actually thinks the United States is going to have a military war with Denmark. I just don't think
00:33:10.860
anyone believes. But by making that a huffing and puffing threat, everything else seems modern.
00:33:17.580
And I noticed, by the way, there were Danish and Greenlandish diplomats in the White House today.
00:33:24.060
So we'll see what happens there. And Trump talks about China's presence. And I don't know,
00:33:29.500
I think that Canada could actually do more things, interesting things. Let me throw something at
00:33:34.220
you. And maybe it's outside your wheelhouse. So maybe you don't have an opinion on it. But look,
00:33:40.620
there is a US military base in the UK, in Italy, in Germany, in Turkey, in about 100 countries in the
00:33:47.340
world. And you could say, oh, that violates their sovereignty. Well, those countries would say,
00:33:51.900
no, it gives us actually the benefit. Canada doesn't have a US base here, even though Americans
00:33:57.500
do train in some of our military bases. If we had a joint Canada-US base in the Arctic,
00:34:04.380
let's say near Inovic, or even further north, where Americans and Canadians could train and work
00:34:10.300
together in the Arctic, it would be allies, buddies. I'm not saying 51st state. I'm just saying,
00:34:16.940
let's have what Germany has. They have 40 US bases. Let's have an Arctic base co-located with
00:34:22.860
the Americans, where we train with each other, not with PLA, Chinese communists. I think Trump
00:34:28.780
would value that so much. It would be like an asymmetrical thing. Maybe he'd go easy on our
00:34:33.740
auto industry. Maybe he'd go easy on other things. I don't know. But I think that that,
00:34:37.820
I don't know if Mark Carney can do that, because he's taking a bit of an anti-American tone. Just
00:34:41.900
something that we could tip our hat to the Americans and say, yeah, listen, let us sell
00:34:45.900
our oil or our wheat or our potash, our canola, and we'll help you on the Arctic sovereignty,
00:34:51.180
which we agree with. Anyhow, it's an idea. I just wanted to float that idea and hear what
00:34:54.540
you thought of it. I love the idea. I've had similar ideas. And I would add to that, we should be
00:35:02.540
not signing exclusive deals, but signing heavily weighted deals where we are providing our critical
00:35:09.500
minerals to the United States for them to... Ezra, let me tell you what I think the Western
00:35:17.260
hemisphere and the world is all about now. The US government bought into globalism over the past 30,
00:35:23.420
40 years. China snuck in and secured all the critical minerals needed. They've captured the
00:35:28.700
supply chain. So if that war happens, the US government will run out of munitions very soon.
00:35:35.420
They're in a race to secure critical minerals and to secure Western hemisphere military
00:35:43.180
security dominance, really, because they're preparing for war with China. So 100 percent,
00:35:48.380
let's do those bases together with the Americans. These are our natural allies. As people, we're very
00:35:56.300
close. We're not identical, but I have the opinion that we can never really be separate from the United
00:36:02.140
States in terms of an ally, saying that we're going to be European or China adjacent. It'll never work.
00:36:10.060
So yes, stronger military cooperation and interoperability, stronger sharing on resources.
00:36:16.700
This is what the people in Canada deep down, I think most of them really want. And it makes sense
00:36:21.420
at a high strategic level. Let me ask you one last question. And it's actually totally a different
00:36:27.180
part of the world. It's in Markham, Ontario, part of the greater Toronto area. There are different
00:36:33.580
camps of Chinese communities. Some are, you know, absolutely freedom oriented, dissident, you might
00:36:41.820
even say democracy activists. But then there are those who favor the Chinese Communist Party. And there
00:36:47.820
are not going to say street battles, but it's certainly a tug of war. And you saw that where Michael Ma
00:36:54.540
Ma was elected as a conservative, but was wooed somehow by Mark Carney. And one of his opponents,
00:37:02.700
Joe Tay, is real. It's this really interesting battle playing itself out. It's a peaceful battle
00:37:07.900
so far, thank God, between who sort of is the boss on the ground. And Michael Ma was flipped from the
00:37:15.260
conservatives to the liberals. And now he is on that plane in China. His immediate reward was to get an
00:37:22.140
audience with the dictator. And I think that's in poor taste, by the way. I think it's an insult
00:37:27.340
to the people of Markham who voted for a more freedom oriented candidate. And then they're
00:37:32.220
given to someone who's being wooed by the Chinese Communist. What is what signal does it send
00:37:38.540
that as a reward for turning tables, Michael Ma is now visiting with a top dictator?
00:37:44.700
It's a horrible signal. And that's a deep story. I believe, Ezra, that first of all, Mark Carney,
00:37:53.340
I've documented at the Bureau through photographic evidence and open sources that Mark Carney was
00:37:59.500
meeting with people that should be on the foreign agent registry because they are senior Beijing
00:38:05.500
United Front Work Department political operatives that appeared to give Mark Carney support in his
00:38:11.420
nomination. I similarly documented that Michael Ma, without alleging that he's involved in any
00:38:18.380
under the table dealings, he's been meeting more than once with very senior people that should be on
00:38:26.780
Canada's foreign agent registry when it in fact, if it's ever implemented. These are people,
00:38:32.540
Ezra, that I'll assert to you, are extremely key to the Don Valley North election interference story.
00:38:39.740
And the election interference across Canada, Michael Ma, you know, toasting wine glasses with them,
00:38:46.460
wearing a red scarf in front of, you know, images of Beijing's military in Markham, which you point to.
00:38:53.500
I think it's a hugely concerning issue. Again, not alleging Michael Ma is involved in foreign interference,
00:38:59.340
but I have the concern his floor crossing could be connected to Beijing's interference.
00:39:04.940
Yeah, it sure looks that way. Well, Sam, I really value your journalism. And folks,
00:39:09.180
as you know, Rebel News is an independent citizen journalist outfit, but we love to pay attention
00:39:15.900
to other citizen journalists and to host them on the show sometimes. Can I recommend that you bookmark
00:39:21.900
Sam's website, especially if you care about foreign interference, Chinese-Canadian relations, and other
00:39:27.980
things too. The website's really easy to remember. It's thebureau.news, thebureau.news. And Sam's got an
00:39:36.060
interesting style. He's got a ton of sources on the ground and in institutions who trust him to get
00:39:43.100
the news out when maybe sometimes the regime media are reluctant to tell what's really going on. So I
00:39:48.460
really look up to Sam, and we're always grateful he can take a few minutes. I know he's so busy. I see
00:39:52.620
him, you know, on so many different programs. He's in demand, so we're always happy when he clears his
00:39:59.340
schedule for us. Sam, great to see you. Keep up the great work, and we look forward to our next update with you.
00:40:03.580
Always good talking, Ezra. Thanks. Right on. There he is. Sam Cooper, thebureau.news. Stay with us. Your
00:40:19.580
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. Chris E. Dye says, Islamic regime, not Iranian regime. This is an
00:40:25.820
occupation, not government. Very important to know the difference. Ah, interesting. Well, you know,
00:40:31.260
it's called the Islamic Republic of Iran. It really is a theology, a theocracy. Excuse me,
00:40:37.260
and I should remind you that Margaret Atwood's book, The Handmaid's Tale, which was turned into a hit TV
00:40:44.700
show, and the Democrats use, oh, Trump is bringing in The Handmaid's Tale. It's a theocracy. It's a
00:40:50.940
misogynist theocracy. No, Trump didn't, and no American has. That was actually, if you look it up,
00:40:58.620
Margaret Atwood was inspired in this dystopian way by the Iranian Revolution. But I just don't
00:41:05.340
think she had the courage to do the show about Islam. She made it about Christianity. But that's
00:41:12.220
not what Christianity is like. Christianity is liberating. It's not condemning. It doesn't
00:41:19.500
subjugate women like radical Islam does. So anyhow, it's incredible that the left has been so supportive
00:41:27.980
of the true misogynist dystopian regime. Like, this is what they claim they hated, but they seem to like
00:41:36.620
it. Kenneth Egerdeen says, I'm so sick of them bringing their wars to Canada. Then expect Canadian
00:41:45.820
government to fix your countries. Meanwhile, Canada is suffering because of our own government,
00:41:49.500
and the government is supporting the immigrants more than the Canadian people.
00:41:53.180
Now, I don't think that Canada, well, Canada gives an enormous amount of foreign aid. And I feel
00:41:59.100
like so much of it is siphoned off and embezzled and corrupted. And we'll find out a little bit more
00:42:03.660
if there's been any tracking done on this money that Chrystia Freeland has been shoveling out the
00:42:07.820
door, working both ends of the deal. The United States does a lot of military exercises around
00:42:14.940
the world. They have the world's largest military, they have about 100 bases all over the world.
00:42:18.620
And the US does go in these wars in a big way. Donald Trump is trying to change how he does it.
00:42:24.780
So like he had a very light touch in Venezuela, and now he's sort of running Venezuela through
00:42:29.980
orders. I'm not going to say through threats, but there's probably threats there too.
00:42:34.700
It's a very interesting thing as we talked to Dr. Pipes yesterday about, can you bring in regime
00:42:41.980
change by knocking off the top guy and then just sort of using the rest as like a ventriloquist doll?
00:42:50.380
If you cut off the hand of the ventriloquist doll and you make it speak in your voice, can you change
00:42:55.900
a country without putting boots on the ground? Trump's trying to do that in Venezuela. And I
00:42:59.500
gotta say so far, it looks like it's working. Be interesting to see what happens in Iran.
00:43:03.820
Bill Smith says, I am seeing the light. Canada blames China, ceases, blames China. And yes,
00:43:09.340
China is a problem is they want to economically take over any country they can. We should not trust
00:43:13.900
China. However, the worst corrupt influence in Canada is from radical Islam, Iran, Qatar and other
00:43:19.500
dictatorships. I agree with you. And the thing about the Islamic extremists funded by Qatar and Iran
00:43:28.940
is they're violent. They're abusive. They're law breaking. They're terrifying. They stomp around
00:43:34.860
in Jewish communities, threatening people. They change our curriculum in schools. I mean, as we heard
00:43:42.220
the other day with Melanie Bennett, the Chinese influence is not as abusive. It's more economic,
00:43:48.300
I think. And like, it is an interference for sure. It feels less abusive. We have to be on guard.
00:43:57.580
I mean, certainly Sam Cooper's comments today were very wise. I am, and when I look to Europe,
00:44:03.660
which I always say is 5, 10, 20 years down the road than we are, you can see that the real threat
00:44:08.300
there I think is radical Islam and the overwhelming transformation of those countries through mass
00:44:13.980
mass immigration. Those are my views. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us
00:44:19.740
here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.