Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Over 300,000 Albertans sign petition calling for an independence referendum

00:00:00.060 Hello, my friends. Big day in Alberta today. More than 300,000 people signed a petition.

00:00:06.420 I mean, not just an online click petition, but actual signing a petition to have a referendum

00:00:12.160 on leaving Canada. We'll have the whole story for you and what the regime is going to do.

00:00:17.820 The empire will strike back. Plus, an interview with our friend Mark Morano on King Charles and

00:00:23.580 what he had to say about climate when he was in Washington TV. But first, let me invite you to

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00:01:21.860 total purchase at checkout. Now let's get into it. Tonight, more than 300,000 people sign a petition

00:01:42.860 calling for a referendum on Alberta independence. It's May 4th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:51.860 on you, you censorious bug. Under Alberta law, 177,732 petition signatures is what's needed to

00:02:11.500 trigger a referendum, that being 10% of the number of people who voted in the last election. So about

00:02:17.320 1.77 million people voted, so 177,000 petition signatures. Today, the chief petition gatherer

00:02:26.320 submitted what he says are, well, nearly double, 301,620 signatures. Now, if that's the case,

00:02:34.800 it will be more than enough to survive any audit of signatures to check for their validity. What

00:02:40.060 a grassroots effort with no political party behind them, no institutional support at all,

00:02:45.160 really. 301,620 signatures. That's a little bit more than the 299,000 votes that Mark Carney got

00:02:54.380 in Alberta in the last election. Isn't that interesting? Now, the referendum, which is

00:02:58.720 tentatively scheduled for October 19th, may have a lower turnout than last year's general election

00:03:03.480 in Alberta because it's not piggybacking on a general election when you have a half a dozen

00:03:08.920 parties mobilizing their votes to go to the polling station anyways in months of media attention.

00:03:13.760 Now, I don't know if this referendum will have more or less turnout than an election.

00:03:18.900 It really is high stakes in a way, so I can imagine it being higher, but you never know.

00:03:23.860 There's the question of litigation also.

00:03:26.880 Extremist Indian bans who are worried about losing billions of dollars from Ottawa

00:03:31.780 have taken the province to court claiming that a referendum is illegal,

00:03:35.540 or at least the petition gathering process is.

00:03:38.820 Yeah, no, the Supreme Court itself said it was legal,

00:03:41.740 and so did the clarity act we know it's legal because quebec got to have not one but two

00:03:48.280 referendums and there are major uh aboriginal populations in quebec um quebec may have more

00:03:54.180 independence referendums their separatist party the parti quebecois is neck and neck in the lead

00:03:59.620 for their upcoming provincial election but you see the blob doesn't like alberta independence

00:04:04.340 the political class the media class the pundits the lobbyists the lawyers the judges every

00:04:08.620 institution i get it a lot of them would be out of work if alberta were its own country they'll

00:04:13.740 do whatever they can to stop it and what's alberta going to do is that right

00:04:18.120 so 300 000 a pretty good effort but you know that's 17 percent of the number of people who

00:04:25.980 voted in the last election so you see my point it's enough to start the job but it's not enough

00:04:31.100 to finish the job by the way i think the point of saturation the point of the saturation of

00:04:36.620 anti-independence media coverage, plus the Indigenous nuisance lawsuit. I think it was

00:04:41.240 to demoralize those who were gathering petitions and get them to abandon their efforts.

00:04:46.980 As I mentioned the other day, our third-party group called Act for Alberta commissioned

00:04:51.520 a massive 3,000-person poll on this very subject, and about 60% say they would vote to stay,

00:04:58.720 and only 28% say they would vote for independence. 12% were undecided. So there's a lot of persuading

00:05:03.700 to do. Here's some video of what it looked like today, though, when the boxes were dropped off

00:05:09.380 at Elections Alberta, sealed because of the court case.

00:05:33.700 Here are some remarks by Mitch Sylvester, the volunteer organizer.

00:06:03.700 the required threshold set by Elections Alberta.

00:06:07.700 This process shows that Albertans are engaged

00:06:11.700 and this is an issue people want to have a say on.

00:06:14.700 From all perspectives, there has been significant interest in discussion

00:06:18.700 and participation demonstrating that this is a matter of province-wide importance.

00:06:23.700 It also reflects the role of direct democracy

00:06:27.700 with citizens engaging the legislative process in a lawful and meaningful way.

00:06:32.700 this effort was about participation in democracy plain and simple it was not

00:06:38.280 easy as you are aware there were significant administrative and legal

00:06:44.340 hurdles that delayed the process and increased the cost despite these

00:06:49.260 obstacles we remain focused on the goal and continue to push ahead in good faith

00:06:53.460 amen this effort would not have been possible without the dedication of

00:06:58.620 of thousands of volunteers, including over 7,000 campuses.

00:07:06.380 And of course, here's the lovely Rebel News

00:07:09.220 big, beautiful billboard truck in action.

00:07:28.620 Now, Mitch Sylvester and some of the other activists framed their challenge towards Daniela

00:07:57.060 Smith, the premier, she has said she's going to be neutral on the matter, as in she's not going to

00:08:01.380 purge or deplatform people who support independence, despite the media demanding that she do. So I

00:08:07.220 think that was a really good answer on her part. She said, look, there's a million Albertans who

00:08:11.800 believe in this. I'm not going to throw them away because the CBC or the NDP says so. I think

00:08:17.420 Danielle Smith deserves enormous credit for making the petition possible. You know, she lowered the

00:08:22.140 hurdle for triggering a referendum from the spectacularly high standard that had been in

00:08:27.960 the law before. Under the old rules written by Jason Kenney, you would need 588,000 signatures

00:08:34.500 and it would need to have a certain number in each district too. So it was designed as a trick

00:08:39.000 by Kenney, the previous premier, to make it seem like there was direct democracy in Alberta, but

00:08:44.560 not actually make it possible. Danielle Smith made it workable, still a big job, but workable. 0.66

00:08:50.000 you know when smith was running for the leadership of the united conservative party

00:08:54.220 i was the emcee for a debate amongst the leadership contenders and i asked smith specifically about a

00:09:01.600 separatist referendum and if it were an or else in dealing with ottawa as in could alberta have

00:09:07.600 recourse if ottawa just laughed in alberta's face again could alberta say do this or else

00:09:13.160 here's what i asked and here's what she answered how far are you willing to go are you willing to

00:09:18.860 say we want these things or else? At what stage would you, for example, invoke the Clarity Act

00:09:26.160 as clarified by the Supreme Court? For example, calling a referendum on the Clarity Act question

00:09:31.980 of secession. Do you have an or else in mind? What is it and what would make you use it?

00:09:38.460 And if not, how are you serious? And I'll start off with Danielle Smith on that one.

00:09:43.980 the or else is

00:09:47.620 Dennis Modry and the Alberta Prosperity Project

00:09:50.020 it's true

00:09:53.220 we complained into law

00:09:55.840 on April the 7th the Citizen

00:09:57.460 Initiative Act which gives

00:09:59.680 the people the power

00:10:01.740 to collect signatures for a petition

00:10:03.740 campaign to propose an amendment

00:10:05.720 if it's a simple matter of policy

00:10:07.140 it's a 10% threshold

00:10:08.960 if it's a constitutional change it's a

00:10:11.240 20% threshold

00:10:12.820 that would mean 600,000 signatures and as I understand it Dr. Modri has a million people

00:10:19.060 on his database so part of when I decided I wanted to run I knew how important it was

00:10:24.240 to make sure that we addressed the issues of autonomy and I talked to Dr. Modri as one of

00:10:28.100 my first steps I said let's try this together let's get as much autonomy as we can full well

00:10:34.400 knowing that he's got the power you've got the power if we're not successful and this is why I

00:10:40.000 take your movement very, very seriously and why Justin Trudeau should take it very, very seriously

00:10:45.320 to you, because you have the power to be able to be the or else. Well, isn't that funny? Because

00:10:51.460 that's exactly what happened. It was the Alberta Prosperity Project that did the work that got her

00:10:55.620 done. So there's an interregnum now. There's a void now. The referendum campaign hasn't officially 0.51

00:11:01.260 been called. I think part of Mitch Sylvester's comments towards Smith had to do with the lawsuit.

00:11:05.800 would the province itself call the referendum as opposed to relying on the petition process

00:11:10.360 to get around perhaps the lawfare of the indian bands i don't know it's almost summertime school

00:11:15.740 will be out families will be enjoying summer things barbecues the stampede normal stuff not

00:11:20.360 political stuff but the referendum is just five months away and i think the images of the

00:11:25.920 successful petition drop off today 300 000 with really no help by grassroots people with no big

00:11:32.440 money no big media no big political parties i think it's going to get a lot of ottawa activists

00:11:37.320 activated and by activists of course i mean most of the media all of the institutions for example

00:11:44.140 don't be surprised if one at a time once a week or twice a week every federal institution puts

00:11:50.000 out a scary position paper or warning about independence they did that in the united kingdom

00:11:54.860 with brexit they called it project fear we'll look for the canada pension plan to warn seniors

00:12:02.300 they'll be cut off as if you have to live in canada to collect your cpp every senior who's

00:12:08.020 retired to arizona or florida can tell you that's not true but look for that project fear move

00:12:13.460 anyways you'll have banks warning about higher interest rates you'll have the military threatening

00:12:18.360 to shut down bases in alberta as if the liberals haven't been doing that for years anyways you'll

00:12:23.360 see every member of the establishment interfering they know whose side their bread is buttered on

00:12:28.200 we'll see i think ironically the temporary high price of oil as a result of the war in iran is

00:12:34.760 helping the remain side because hundred dollar oil means a boost to incomes in the province and

00:12:39.760 a boost in activity enough to make people feel a bit better about things to feel a bit more

00:12:44.280 optimistic about things i think some people have become a little comfortable and you know better

00:12:50.180 the devil they know mark carney than the devil they don't alberta has been knocked down to size

00:12:55.100 by Ottawa, but it's still doing better than the rest of the provinces. I think some Albertans

00:12:59.820 would say, don't risk a good thing just because we might get a great thing. We'll see. And we'll

00:13:06.700 be there to tell the other side of the story. Stay with us for more.

00:13:19.900 Welcome back. Well, relations between British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and U.S. President

00:13:24.460 Donald Trump are frosty. It's probably one of the coldest moments in U.S.-U.K. relations since

00:13:30.600 the Suez Canal fiasco. But King Charles had a recent visit to Washington that was universally

00:13:38.680 regarded as successful. He was fairly well received in Congress by both parties, and I think

00:13:45.740 he really thought about how to appeal to Donald Trump. Trump, by the way, is a big fan of the

00:13:51.980 royal family. He was an admirer of Queen Elizabeth, and he's transferred that onto King Charles and,

00:13:59.080 of course, Prince William. And I don't know who thought up the idea, but the presentation

00:14:04.500 of this particular gift from the king to President Trump, I think, was not only symbolic and

00:14:11.600 heartfelt, but it would also appeal to the things Trump likes, including putting his name on things.

00:14:16.880 Take a look at this very successful speech, just a clip of it, from King Charles presenting a bell from the HMS Trump to Donald Trump.

00:14:27.660 Take a look.

00:14:28.040 Speaking of submarine alliances, there was one particular AUKUS predecessor launched from a UK shipyard in 1944 that served for the majority of her life attached to the fourth submarine squadron in Australia.

00:14:46.880 playing a critical role during the war in the Pacific.

00:14:51.860 Her name? HMS Trump.

00:14:56.700 So tonight, Mr President, I am delighted to present to you as a personal gift

00:15:01.860 the original bell, which hung on the conning tower of your valiant namesake.

00:15:10.600 may it stand as a testimony to our nation's shared history and shining future.

00:15:21.080 And should you ever need to get hold of us, or just give us a ring?

00:15:30.840 Well, the king is come and gone. The relationship stronger, I think. I'm not sure how much longer

00:15:38.260 Keir Starmer will be British prime minister. But one speech that the king gave one moment

00:15:43.720 was not quite as laudatory. It was the king scratching his own ideological itch about

00:15:50.880 global warming. You would be surprised that a man who travels in private jets and has such a

00:15:56.960 massive estate would pretend to care about emissions. But it's one of those luxury beliefs

00:16:02.640 that only wealthy people can care about here's the king with a gentle jab at trump on global

00:16:10.220 warming take a look as we celebrate the beauty that surrounds us our generation must decide

00:16:18.180 how to address the collapse of critical natural systems which threatens far more than the harmony

00:16:24.980 and essential diversity of nature we ignore at our peril the fact that these natural systems

00:16:33.060 in other words nature's own economy provide the foundation for our prosperity and our national

00:16:41.140 security uh you could see that the applause was a little bit more enthusiastic on the democratic

00:16:53.340 side of the house. I'm not sure what the king is referring to, the collapse of critical natural

00:17:00.040 systems. The whole thing feels a little bit dated, as if Greta Thunberg was still marching about the

00:17:07.260 climate rather than moving on to the next big thing, Gaza. Even Bill Gates himself has withdrawn

00:17:13.940 a bit from the climate battle. He prefers artificial intelligence and the massive data

00:17:20.900 centers necessary to fuel them. Joining us now to talk about the king and his old-fashioned belief

00:17:26.980 in hippies environmentalism is our friend Mark Morano, the boss of ClimateDepot.com,

00:17:32.200 who has been a longtime watcher of King Charles back when he was merely a prince. Mark, great to

00:17:37.700 see you again. Welcome back. Thank you, Ezra. Happy to be here. I just wanted to point out that

00:17:41.860 Prince Charles, King Charles, I'm still not used to saying that, also did an apparent rebuke of

00:17:47.080 Trump referred to the quote, disastrously melting ice caps of the Arctic and a very direct reference

00:17:52.480 to Trump's climate skepticism. Well, I mean, you've been following the king for a long time.

00:17:58.520 I mean, he's only been king for a couple of years. I mean, I suppose, listen, I actually am a bit of

00:18:04.560 a monarchist myself. And I think it partly was just my sheer admiration for Queen Elizabeth.

00:18:10.120 and i can only imagine what it was like for king charles to wait decades but for his turn and so

00:18:18.620 he had to find a hobby he had to find something to do besides just cut ribbons and he chose

00:18:24.140 environmentalism and i suppose of all the things he could have chosen it was maybe in his mind it

00:18:29.100 was the most generic and the most non-controversial but he started to trip over into controversy

00:18:36.420 give me a little bit about the history of some of the things because he's sort of like a calmer

00:18:40.800 version of Al Gore isn't he with all his apocalyptic warnings he delivers it in a very

00:18:48.280 calm way but his rhetoric is very similar to Al Gore okay he was one of these founders he's pushed

00:18:53.500 the so-called earth charter it's like a Magna Carta except for earth rights he has also pushed

00:19:00.560 face masks for cows. He's been to many United Nations climate summits with his doomsday

00:19:06.220 warnings. Beginning in 2007, he got really active, again, around the time of Al Gore's movie

00:19:12.340 Inconvenient Truth 20 years ago, and he started issuing the climate tipping points. And he got

00:19:18.800 into that whole thing, 100-month deadline, and he kept counting it down. I can go into a little

00:19:22.800 detail on that in a minute uh but prince king charles he made it his number one issue outside

00:19:30.620 of the royal family and he was going around the world just promoting this alarmism and this

00:19:35.980 silliness uh and he's invested in startups uh again with agriculture and he's gone after

00:19:41.880 meat eating and everything else i mean the whole range of the climate issues king charles slash

00:19:47.280 prince charles was there he was essentially a more a wealthier version of greta thunberg with

00:19:54.240 the british crown behind him looking more respectable but he delivered the same climate

00:19:59.080 dribble whenever he went for decades yeah i think that anything that's said in that uh received

00:20:05.620 pronunciation i forget that what there's a special language for the sort of accent that royalty have

00:20:11.060 I think it's called heightened received pronunciation or something.

00:20:15.780 You have a guy who's always wearing bespoke suits, who speaks calmly in that beautiful accent surrounded by regalia.

00:20:23.620 He's going to make an impact.

00:20:25.320 He's going to be more persuasive than some angry Swedish high school dropout.

00:20:31.160 Did anyone actually listen to Prince Charles or King Charles on this stuff?

00:20:35.180 or did they sort of say uh did they sort of bend the knee and roll their eyes and say listen he's

00:20:40.420 the king we don't push back like like do you think he had an effect or or do you think it

00:20:45.120 was sort of a hobby and a personal pursuit that didn't actually go anywhere for him what do you

00:20:50.060 think well i think it was definitely a personal pursuit he seemed to be a true believer or at

00:20:56.940 least he convinced himself if you just heard his rhetoric and his talking uh and what's funny is

00:21:02.560 the hypocrisy of him he literally uh has you know i think you know the most elaborate toilets

00:21:09.860 in the world he has a portable toilet that he travels with uh and he's it goes you know first

00:21:15.680 class everywhere obviously he seemed to be a true believer it's hard to say you know he wasn't funded

00:21:20.740 by you know middle eastern oil as al gore was when he sold his network you couldn't accuse him of

00:21:26.620 getting funding necessarily but he was looking for ideological relevance he was looking for his

00:21:31.700 place in society so climate was the ultimate virtue signal for king charles well then prince

00:21:37.680 charles i will give him credit since he's become king he is not as inane his comments aren't off

00:21:45.460 the wall even with his trip to america that was very restrained but he still referred to it all

00:21:50.480 but it was done in a much more subdued way and you probably have that you know you could probably

00:21:54.840 show the video clips of it but he some of his tipping point rhetoric was laughable and comical

00:22:00.480 where he started with the 100-month tipping point,

00:22:02.900 and then he got down to 89 months and then like 70-some months,

00:22:06.700 and then he got right down to zero.

00:22:08.480 Once he hit zero, then he added 35 more years for the climate tipping point.

00:22:13.180 And I always like to say, you know, he would have been,

00:22:15.220 I think it was by the time 20, I think it was 2047,

00:22:19.660 he could theoretically be alive given his longevity gene.

00:22:22.860 But the irony of all this is he waited all those decades to be king.

00:22:26.400 He becomes king, and then he immediately gets a cancer scare.

00:22:29.000 I haven't kept up.

00:22:29.960 I don't know. But, you know, he immediately has a major health scare after he finally becomes king

00:22:34.440 after decades of waiting. So you have to feel for him a little bit there. You know, so I don't know.

00:22:39.240 I don't know his current state of his health. He seemed healthy. But he was definitely very well

00:22:43.900 received in America. This was. It's easy to tuck away your environmental slash climate alarmism

00:22:50.760 when you deliver it with a jovial sense and when you deliver it with a British accent and it's sort

00:22:57.760 of tucked away so it wasn't the he wasn't climate or ecologically alarmist forward in his trip to

00:23:06.080 America very well received you know he went to the little town of Front Royal Virginia which is like

00:23:10.800 an hour over an hour outside of DC people lined up for miles he was in a parade he went to the

00:23:15.820 local restaurant he and his wife so he was very uh you know I guess congenial and well received

00:23:21.720 despite all of this but he's definitely as king he was suave enough and delicate enough to shift

00:23:29.840 his sillier rhetoric when he was prince trying to get attention yeah i think that things are so

00:23:35.240 fraught between the white house and 10 downing street that he didn't mess around i think he was

00:23:40.620 really coached on what the crisis was and he had to repair it so listen give the mark give the guy

00:23:45.860 marks for that and i hope that he puts aside some of the more exuberant statements of of his youth

00:23:52.280 um i i gotta say though and i and i didn't have a chance to bump into you at davos for the world

00:23:58.540 economic forum in january yeah yeah but um that has really thrown out climate as an issue and

00:24:05.660 we've been going for enough years to see the transformation yeah and misinformation disinformation

00:24:10.880 was a big theme now it's all ai that's all anyone cares about yes and really i there was just some

00:24:18.140 little public art installation about climate like it was almost i almost felt bad how pitiful it was

00:24:23.960 compared to you know the front page it would have been before and i can't help but thinking

00:24:29.480 even in the united states and certainly in canada global warming climate change

00:24:35.340 those phrases i don't even see parties on the left talk about them that much because i think

00:24:40.500 other issues whether it's inflation immigration the war i just i feel like the pendulum has swung

00:24:47.440 out on that stuff i'm not saying it won't come back um but i just maybe it's partly because of

00:24:52.960 trump just saying yes to energy again um i just i just feel like i mean look if greta tunberg who's

00:25:00.320 got a nose for publicity if she's chosen the gas of flotilla over greenpeace oh and speaking of

00:25:07.040 which greenpeace losing a massive lawsuit for their actions blocking a pipeline i just feel

00:25:12.880 like i mean i don't want to declare victory because i don't want to be complacent but i feel

00:25:16.540 like the climate alarmists have had a terrible few years yes in fact i gave it the international

00:25:23.220 climate summit which lee zeldon our epa chief spoke at in washington just three weeks ago

00:25:27.420 i gave a keynote speech to close the conference and i said in my i can't i've lost track it's

00:25:33.940 like 23 or 24 years since I got on the global warming climate change beat I have never seen

00:25:39.120 anything like this this is clearly the lowest point in these two and a half decades that I've

00:25:44.340 witnessed and that anyone has witnessed and obviously it's the lowest point you know back

00:25:49.360 you have to go back to pre-1992 or pre-formation of the UN climate panel to find anything lower

00:25:55.920 even the CNN pollster Harry Enten has said that concern about climate change is reaching 1980s

00:26:02.180 levels, late 1980s levels. So a couple of different things there. You mentioned the

00:26:06.860 World Economic Forum and you mentioned just how this starts. First of all, in America,

00:26:11.100 climate has gone silent. Even the Democratic Party has gone silent on climate change. You

00:26:15.600 mentioned Bill Gates. Because of AI, he has now said climate's not a catastrophe. Climate is not

00:26:21.040 going to be dooming. We need to worry about human flourishing. Jeff Bezos, the other billionaire,

00:26:26.420 has now pulled back the Washington Post, fired about 80 percent of his climate reporters at

00:26:31.880 He owns the Washington Post newspaper. His Washington Post editorial boards now rail on EV mandates. They rail on Green New Deal and net zero. Complete shocking change from that billionaire. And then you have Sergey Brin, the founder of Google. He's now come out as MAGA. He's got a MAGA girlfriend. He's supporting President Trump.

00:26:50.860 So the billionaire class, I think it's more of a fickle class, if you will.

00:26:55.880 Whoever's in power, they're going to suck up to who's in power.

00:26:58.960 That's part of it.

00:26:59.940 But the other part is absolutely AI.

00:27:02.700 And Larry Fink, who was very prominently featured, you know, he's co-chair of the World Economic Forum,

00:27:07.680 has openly stated that solar and wind cannot power AI.

00:27:11.280 You need dispatchable power.

00:27:12.540 You need fossil fuels.

00:27:13.840 You need nuclear.

00:27:14.480 And this is why Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are now trying to lease or buy nuclear power to supply their AI power demands.

00:27:23.460 On top of that, I will just say the U.N. climate summit was an absolute disaster.

00:27:28.620 So much of a disaster, by the way, in November that in Colombia last week, Ezra, they started their own non-U.N. climate summits.

00:27:35.340 And they got all the willing countries together to basically commit on their own.

00:27:38.920 This was at Al Gore's vision after Azerbaijan meeting, which was COP29, to get rid of all the countries who don't support the goal.

00:27:47.400 But now it sort of changes the whole game for the climate alarmists because you just have a bunch of yes countries that aren't actually bringing in, you know, the major countries.

00:27:54.880 The United States wasn't even invited to this conference in Colombia.

00:27:57.580 So it is unbelievable. It's the complete collapse of this movement.

00:28:01.660 And I think COVID killed the climate hoax to the extent that it's dying.

00:28:05.980 And what I mean by that is we have one person to thank. And it's not necessarily Donald Trump. It's a one Anthony Fauci. It's the World Health Organization. The overreach on COVID destroyed the appeals to authority. And this brought the great middle, the undecided, the middle of the rotors in politics who basically said, no longer does that work.

00:28:26.940 oh why is global warming real because nasa says so you can point no the appeal to authority is

00:28:33.300 gone this is what i think ultimately laid that groundwork and and due credit donald trump

00:28:39.120 leaves out and not only for their actions reversing everything and giving permanence

00:28:42.860 getting out of the rio 1992 treaty and getting us out of the endangerment finding which regulates

00:28:47.280 co2 as a pollutant but most important in my book they flipped the narrative donald trump his epa

00:28:54.180 chief lee zeldon the energy secretary chris wright openly talk about climate as a scam a hoax a

00:28:58.900 religion a cult that changes public opinion that flips the narrative and that has been phenomenal

00:29:04.580 and that silences the opposition i might add now you said something a moment ago that i jotted down

00:29:09.620 because i didn't want to let it pass did i hear you right to say that you were an invited guest

00:29:14.860 speaker at an epa conference did you say that no it wasn't no it's an international climate summit

00:29:20.440 and lee zeldin was the invited he's the head of the epa so he was there he gave a keynote on one

00:29:26.480 day and then i gave the closing conference it was a huge well if the head of the epa was there and

00:29:31.260 at the same conference it may not have been a formal epa conference but it had sort of the

00:29:35.640 blessing of the head of trump's epa in fact we had washington post new york times all outraged

00:29:41.220 that the epa chief would speak at a skeptical climate summit wow well that you know what i

00:29:46.400 just wanted to follow up on that because it's so interesting and a sign of the times and i think

00:29:50.680 when you look at the uh the new energy reality the real politic of energy um you know just to

00:29:59.800 reference a name in the uk ed miliband and his goofy ideas of wind turbines and you know people

00:30:05.020 are just so worried about high energy prices in places like the uk and europe is so dependent on

00:30:12.480 Russian oil and gas. And Iran is now choking the Strait of Hormuz. So now producing, exporting,

00:30:20.960 selling, transporting fossil fuels is not just cool again. It is a matter of absolute national

00:30:27.820 security and national survival. And it's amazing to see. And I think of my home province of Alberta

00:30:33.380 with the oil sands and even Venezuela. What a brilliant, brilliant change. I mean, just with

00:30:38.580 one surgical strike, Trump has moved them, Venezuela, into a pro-American orbit. I see

00:30:44.580 news that there's now direct flights between Miami and Caracas again. I'm just so hopeful for

00:30:49.400 that place to decommunistify and to re-Americanize. I don't know. Give me 30 more seconds

00:30:56.820 on Venezuela because that was an oil regime that was definitely a bad guy. And now it's

00:31:02.820 really a U.S. protectorate. Yes. And what Trump's doing is bringing in all of the drilling and

00:31:09.700 refinery capacity. And they're going to try to resurrect, essentially, the true capacity of

00:31:15.300 Venezuelan oil. And then they're going to be able to sell globally on the market. They're going to

00:31:19.520 sell to the United States. And it's all part of Donald Trump's plan. Even CNN, and this was in

00:31:25.060 March of this year, was forced to admit, Ezra, that the United States now produces more oil

00:31:30.500 than any nation in the history of the planet, the history of the earth. And I think when you combine

00:31:36.120 that with what's happened in Venezuela, and you combine that with the fact that we're now

00:31:40.440 exporting natural gas, liquefied natural gas to Europe, replacing Russia as the number one

00:31:45.180 supplier, this is all great news for national security and for democracies across the world.

00:31:52.780 This is a true moment in history where we realize that energy production, domestic energy production,

00:31:58.960 is the best national security defense, and it's always been that way. If you look back at the

00:32:04.920 1970s with the Arab oil embargo, the unbelievable destruction of the economy for the United States 0.99

00:32:11.380 and many of the West who relied on that is not repeating itself this time because we don't need

00:32:16.600 that oil anymore. We're self-sufficient, and that is laying the groundwork, and that's both

00:32:20.480 policy under Trump, and it's also technological advances with particularly natural gas fracking.

00:32:25.800 uh fracking alone has replaced coal which has been a huge boon to energy and coal is trying

00:32:32.360 to be resurrected as well coal is probably the most simplest national security asset if you have

00:32:37.160 coal reserves and you can produce coal you have your own domestic energy because you have thoughts

00:32:42.740 of flexibility so and you can make steel yes you can do everything with it yes you know it's it's

00:32:48.620 so basic that to succeed a country has to have plentiful affordable food and fuel and

00:32:55.680 And they're related, by the way, as the farmers of Amsterdam would tell you, the farmers of the Netherlands, who were being hit with all these taxes, not in the name of carbon in that case, but in the name of nitrogen.

00:33:05.660 They were criminalizing another element in the periodic table.

00:33:08.740 It's so ridiculous. 0.93

00:33:09.940 But those bad guys are on the back foot. 0.88

00:33:12.680 Well, I want to close by lamenting, because all the good news you and I are talking about is with the United States of America, who we love and we admire.

00:33:22.040 but canada made so many bad decisions over the trudeau era and again under mark carney

00:33:27.100 that we are not there with you i mean yes there's railways and there's a small additional pipeline

00:33:32.020 being built but we missed opportunities to expand our production to have pipelines to the coast

00:33:37.820 we could be selling ethical oil into japan korea taiwan yeah they need it badly yes they're the

00:33:45.460 ones that affected and they're going to have to reassess all of their energy policies and energy

00:33:50.000 strategies because the Strait of Hormuz closure has impacted the Asian countries the most.

00:33:55.620 Yeah. And yeah, I don't know. I feel bad for what's going on in Canada. I mean, I guess he

00:34:02.300 zeroed out the carbon tax or at least part of it. And that's probably only a temporary measure for

00:34:07.000 now. Yeah. And I hear there's point talk of resurrecting a keystone light or something like

00:34:12.460 that. But I don't know that it's going to be anything. I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah.

00:34:16.040 Yeah, exactly. Well, Mark, it's great. I don't know. I, you know, hopefully Canada will come around. Now, hopefully Canada will come around. I hope a lot of Europe is coming on. Germany now realizes that their prime minister, Mertz, is now, you know, seems to be very pro energy. And even Ed Miliband is being forced to concede certain things. But we'll see. I got to meet Nigel Farrage. Let's hope he's a future UK prime minister that could help them.

00:34:40.420 Yeah, the polls say he will be. Mark, great to catch up with you. Thanks so much. You're the best informed person in America on global warming. We love to go to climatedepot.com. And thanks for continuing to bring the facts to us as you do all the time.

00:34:56.300 Thank you, Ezra. I appreciate it. Good to talk to you.

00:34:57.980 There he is, Mark Morano. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:35:00.820 hey welcome back your letters to me the first one is on jonathan yaniv it's by s mcgrath who says

00:35:15.740 yaniv is a menace to society he should be declared a vexatious litigant and forced to get a job

00:35:21.360 yeah um i wouldn't want to force him on any employer though would you brenda cook says human 0.87

00:35:27.520 rights tribunals should be disbanded. They are dysfunctional and should be abolished. I agree. 0.79

00:35:32.260 I mean, the main things that they were set up for were kicking someone out of an apartment based on

00:35:37.740 their race or denying them an apartment. But there's landlord and tenant laws. And that just

00:35:41.780 doesn't happen. I mean, Canada is practically half minority anyways. I just don't think it's a big

00:35:47.700 problem of not getting an apartment because you're a minority. The other half is being fired for this

00:35:53.840 reason or that reason well we already have employment law you can't fire someone because 0.92

00:35:59.260 they're gay or because they're black you just can't or if you do you have to pay them a heightened

00:36:04.200 severance so we already have landlord and tenant boards we already have employment or labor 0.95

00:36:09.220 arbitrations in the case of unions that deals with most of what these human rights commissions 0.66

00:36:14.280 were built to do the rest of it like their speech censorship shut her down wade young says pierce

00:36:21.760 says it before 40 people arrested 6,000 times oh Pierre Polyev said it before 40 people arrested

00:36:30.800 6,000 times in one year that's how how that's how that a working system it works for the criminals

00:36:37.260 sorry there was a bit of a typo there the point is a small number of criminals can committing an

00:36:42.720 enormous number of crimes that was the point I was referring to in New York City in their broken

00:36:47.380 windows theory if they just arrest people for the small stuff take them off the streets you take 50

00:36:52.860 bad guys off the street you will liberate enormous numbers of people we've just given up on policing

00:36:58.360 and i think i live in the worst city for that well that's our show for the day until tomorrow

00:37:04.420 on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good night and keep

00:37:08.680 fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - May 05, 2026

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Over 300,000 Albertans sign petition calling for an independence referendum

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