Rebel News Podcast - September 16, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Parliament bombshell exposes the staggering foreign student numbers in Canada


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00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, a new revelation in Parliament of just how many foreign students there are in
00:00:07.220 Canada. Here's a hint for you. It's seven figures. I'll take you through the details.
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00:00:47.320 Tonight, I was wrong. 364,000 temporary foreign workers are not the main problem. That's a tiny
00:01:02.760 fraction of the main problem. It's September 16th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:07.520 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:17.320 Hey, remember a few weeks ago when I debated the friendly representative from the Canadian
00:01:27.460 Federation of Independent Business? We were talking about the temporary foreign workers
00:01:31.340 program. Now, I disagreed with her on most things, but she was right on one big thing.
00:01:37.360 The temporary foreign workers program is not the biggest problem in the country. Now,
00:01:42.320 364,000 foreign workers coming to work in restaurants and gas stations is absolutely
00:01:49.900 displacing thousands of local Canadians, especially teenagers who need that first job in food service
00:01:57.560 or retail. Although I do acknowledge that true temporary workers who come, for example,
00:02:02.980 for a season to help farmers pick crops in a tight period of time, I think that's probably needed
00:02:08.580 and probably wouldn't displace local workers. You need a surge of workers just to pick a crop. But
00:02:14.740 I didn't like the implication from the Federation of Independent Business that young people don't want to
00:02:20.620 work in jobs like fast food restaurants or retail. I think that's actually the classic first job. It
00:02:27.620 certainly was for teenagers in the past, and I think it should be now too. By the way, I think the labor
00:02:33.700 market impact assessment, that's when companies have to prove to the government that they can't
00:02:38.900 find a Canadian to do the job. I think those are abused. I think there is a lot of fraud there. Don't
00:02:43.700 tell me that you can't find someone to work at a fast food restaurant for $72,000 a year, which some
00:02:50.820 of these fast food restaurants offer to temporary foreign workers. You can go online and see there are jobs up
00:02:57.700 to $200,000 a year. Don't tell me you can't find Canadians who will take it. But as the CFIB argued
00:03:06.820 to me, that's not the big number. Odds are, if you're going to a Tim Hortons and you're served by
00:03:14.020 a foreign national, odds are it's not a temporary foreign worker. I didn't believe that at first,
00:03:18.820 but it's true. Because there are more than 1.4 million people here under the so-called International
00:03:25.700 Mobility Program, which does not need a labor market impact analysis and is not part of the
00:03:30.580 same program. But the real doozy, can you imagine 1.4 million, like quadruple the temporary foreign
00:03:36.340 program. But the real doozy was revealed in parliament today in a written order paper question.
00:03:43.220 That's like oral question period, but in writing. Typically opposition MPs, or really their staff,
00:03:49.860 write a fairly detailed question or series of questions about a departmental issue. So it
00:03:56.340 wouldn't be like the raw partisan battles you normally see in oral question period where there's
00:04:02.740 name calling and scandals and things like that. I mean, let me give you a sample of the written
00:04:07.780 question I'm referring to today. It's submitted in writing and the department answers in writing,
00:04:12.820 and they have a certain period of time within which to do it. And it's put in the Hansard,
00:04:16.660 that's the official transcript of parliament, as if it were spoken out loud. But it's a great way to
00:04:22.020 get detailed info. I mean, let me look at, let me show you this example today by an MP named Jamil
00:04:28.820 Giovanni, the conservative MP. He's actually a pretty good MP, I think. So I'll just read it.
00:04:35.060 With regard to Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship Canada, IRCC, that's the name of the
00:04:41.860 Department. In the 2024-2025 fiscal year, A, how much was spent administering the student visa program
00:04:51.780 in total and broken down by type of expense? B, how many employees were assigned to the program?
00:05:01.700 One, in total, and two for processing applications, and three for ensuring the compliance of those
00:05:07.220 already granted a visa? C, how many student visas were active? And D, how many student visas were
00:05:14.740 revoked, broken down by reason of revocation? That's a pretty technical set of questions, right?
00:05:20.820 I mean, that's not the kind of thing that a cabinet minister would likely have at the tip of their
00:05:24.420 tongue if you asked them to them out of the blue. So it's written down, and so is the reply. And you can
00:05:30.500 imagine, that's a pretty meaty set of questions. I'm not going to answer all of those. I'm just going to focus
00:05:35.300 on one part of it, but these are all written questions. Would you agree with me? They're
00:05:39.780 pretty useful. And they're answered by the department staff. Now they're put through a
00:05:45.140 political vet, like they're not going to do anything to embarrass the minister properly.
00:05:49.940 Now I'm going to skip most of those details and focus on the huge shocking figure.
00:05:54.820 Just how many foreign students are in Canada? So here's the answer from today's answer, from the
00:06:01.300 written answer to the written question. I'll just read the key part of it since there's a lot of other
00:06:06.020 detail. So this was submitted by Peter Fragiskatos, who is the Parliamentary Secretary of the Ministry of
00:06:12.500 Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship. He's a liberal, of course. And I quote,
00:06:17.300 the total number of unique individuals who held a valid study permit on any date over the course of
00:06:26.420 the time period, at any point in time between April 1st, 2024 and March 31st, 2025, there were
00:06:35.220 approximately 1,317,680 persons who held a study permit, including extensions.
00:06:46.900 So you've got more than a third of a million temporary foreign workers. And you've got 1.4
00:06:51.140 million other foreign workers, those international mobility workers. But then you've got 1.3 million
00:06:57.540 students. I think these are all different. But here's the thing, those students are also allowed
00:07:03.460 to work. By the way, I checked, there's only about 1.7 million Canadian citizens and permanent
00:07:11.380 residents in university and college to begin with. So 1.3, almost 1.4 million foreigners in our
00:07:21.540 colleges, compared to 1.7 million Canadians, it's almost a majority. It's almost half of our universities
00:07:29.540 and colleges are foreign nationals. That is nuts. Is that what you pay your taxes for?
00:07:34.820 So universities can educate the world rather than Canadians? Did you have a Canadian kid who
00:07:40.980 couldn't get into college maybe, couldn't match the tuition, couldn't get the marks, pushed aside
00:07:46.260 by a foreign national instead? Now, of course, a lot of those, let's be obvious and honest,
00:07:52.580 they're going to fake schools called diploma mills, where really you're just buying a diploma.
00:07:58.500 I think that's what is pretty obvious. They're not actually selling you tuition,
00:08:03.380 these schools, and it's not even the degree you're after. They're selling immigration.
00:08:10.420 Just like there's some fake companies that are hiring foreign national, they're not actually really
00:08:15.460 hiring them, they're not actually working there. Foreigners pay those companies to be hired at a
00:08:22.340 fake company, pay 10 grand, 15 grand, 20 grand, just to say they have a job. But really, the job didn't
00:08:28.820 pay them, they paid the job as a crooked way to get into the country. Do you understand what I'm
00:08:33.940 saying? Like we think, okay, get a job, you work for the company, they pay you for your work. But that's
00:08:39.460 because we're here already. How many people from foreign countries pay, I don't know if they pay Tim
00:08:47.300 Hortons, I don't know if they're in on it. I'll pay you $20,000 to hire me. And you don't actually
00:08:53.780 have to hire me, I just want to say I work for you so I can get into the country. It's scams on top of
00:08:59.300 scams. That's why we've suddenly had millions of people walking our streets who are not from here,
00:09:04.820 who we don't know who they are. But to the point today, how on earth could a 16 year old Canadian
00:09:10.820 kid possibly compete for a job in this market? Foreign nationals who really do want to work
00:09:18.260 are undercutting Canadians. And many of them are fraudulent literally paying to get hired just to
00:09:23.140 get into our borders. You actually have fully 3 million foreign nationals in Canada hunting
00:09:29.140 desperately for jobs. We see that. We see cases of a single job being advertised and hundreds of
00:09:36.820 people applying for it. They're desperate. Huge lineups. Something's got to break. You know, I was
00:09:42.740 in the UK last week and the number one issue that got nearly a million people out to march in London
00:09:49.380 was mass immigration that no one voted for, that no one asked for, that no one approved.
00:09:53.460 We've actually got it much worse in Canada proportionately. The numbers I just told you,
00:09:59.700 they would be doubled in the case of the UK. They're not. We actually have more migrants than
00:10:05.940 the United Kingdom proportionately and in absolute terms. Now in the UK, the new reform party as it's
00:10:13.060 called, they're the voice for those who want to stop in migration and start re-migration to have
00:10:20.020 not just net zero migration, but to have mass deportations. That's Nigel Farage's party.
00:10:27.540 If Pierre Polyev's conservatives want to win, they better start doing the same. Stay with us for more.
00:10:35.300 Well, as you know, for most of last week, I was in the United Kingdom. We took a mission. A couple
00:10:49.140 of dozen of the most enthusiastic rebel news viewers from around the world, as far away as
00:10:53.380 Australia and Canada, joined me in London for what turned out to be the largest free speech rally in UK
00:11:00.900 history. And depending on whose estimates you believe, it may be the largest political demonstration
00:11:06.980 ever of any sort in the UK. They say that the record was about 30 years ago, an anti-war rally.
00:11:15.780 When Tony Blair was prime minister, they say that had 750,000 people attending. Of course, many of those
00:11:22.420 would have been sponsored by the Socialist Workers Party and other professional groups, but there's no
00:11:26.580 denying it was large. Well, Tommy Robinson's rally on Saturday was completely organic. There was no
00:11:32.340 political party that had sitting politicians. There was no legacy media promoting it. So the numbers that
00:11:38.740 were there were very authentic. It was enormous. And I was honored to participate. As you know, I was
00:11:43.220 given five minutes to make my own remarks. And I saw Trevor Phillips and his analysis, Trevor Phillips,
00:11:50.980 the former head of the Human Rights Commission in the UK. And I thought that he actually, for the
00:11:57.220 mainstream media, was the fairest commentator of them all. He, in a way, said that some of the
00:12:04.260 protesters didn't know exactly why they were there, but they had a feeling that something was wrong.
00:12:10.260 Here, I'll let Trevor Phillips speak for himself. Here's his own words describing many of the people he
00:12:15.860 bumped into at the rally. And even that alone is a bit of a miracle for a mainstream media
00:12:20.900 journalist to actually go amongst the unwashed masses. That's something that the BBC certainly
00:12:27.460 wouldn't do. Here, here's Trevor Phillips in his own words. But I think that for those who oppose
00:12:32.900 Robinson and his ilk, the most alarming aspect of the event was just how normal the vast majority of
00:12:38.980 the marches were. I spent an hour or two amongst them, and my own impression was that they were mostly
00:12:44.260 the sort of people you'd meet in a country pub or in half-time queue for the loo at football or at a
00:12:49.060 concert. There was a sprinkling of black and brown faces, and the event was brought to a close by a
00:12:54.580 gospel group singing Jerusalem. All that must worry the traditional mass parties, Labour and Conservatives,
00:13:02.820 now polling at less than 40% between them. They're draining support to parties like Reform and the Greens.
00:13:09.860 And yet, a man recently out of jail, condemned as an extremist thug by most mainstream media outlets,
00:13:17.620 can rally a demo the size of the entire population of Cambridge or Blackpool. A feat you couldn't imagine
00:13:24.820 either Zakir Starmer or Kemi Badenoch pulling off anytime soon.
00:13:29.380 And I think he's right. And one of the issues that I think animates at least a portion of the people who
00:13:36.180 came out was the two-tier justice that the UK seems to see. And what I mean by that is,
00:13:42.980 there's a lot of trouble in the UK. There's a lot of boiling public opinion, but it's almost as if
00:13:48.580 police check your ideological leanings or sometimes even your religion before deciding whether to
00:13:55.380 prosecute and to arrest and what sentence you'll get. Joining me now to talk about a crazy case from
00:14:02.900 Stoke on Trent is Leilani Downing, a social commentator who joins us now via Zoom. Great to
00:14:10.980 see you, Leilani. Nice to meet you officially. I really enjoy following you on X and thanks for
00:14:16.420 being with us today. Thank you so much. I'm the same way I follow you. I love Rebel News and it's
00:14:22.180 great to be on. Thank you for having me on here. Well, it's our pleasure. I was following your account
00:14:26.820 because I like, you obviously survey a lot of things. You keep your eyes peeled. And I also get,
00:14:31.860 I like the fact that you're a farm girl because of course Rebel News, we have a bit of a Western
00:14:38.740 Canadian tradition. Our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed is a farmer too. So I get a kick out of
00:14:43.140 that. You have farming tips, which are good, but today was a very serious matter. Let me just show on
00:14:48.660 the screen the story that you brought to your viewers' attention. Jailed Hanley, Hanley is a
00:14:56.180 locality. Jailed Hanley Riott's dad was chanting, who the F is Allah? Nathan Poole was getting his
00:15:06.980 haircut when he found out about the protests. So Nathan Poole is the name of a 32-year-old dad
00:15:13.300 and he got swept up in some political protests. He himself, there's no evidence that he rioted.
00:15:20.180 There's no evidence that he did anything violent. I've read this story twice and they quote what he
00:15:27.860 said. He said, who the F is Allah? Of course he used the swear, not the shorthand. And he said,
00:15:34.820 you are all effing nonces, which is the British way of saying a pedophile. He was chanting scum
00:15:42.500 and he argued with police. So I'm not going to say I adore or admire any of those things. I think
00:15:49.860 some of them are rude. I think it would probably be rude to say to a Muslim who the F is Allah,
00:15:54.580 just like it would be rude to say to a Christian who the F is Jesus, I suppose. But rudeness is not
00:16:00.340 a crime. But Nathan Poole, a father, is now sentenced to 30 months in prison. Leilani,
00:16:08.820 what do you make of that? See, this came to my attention because it's actually very close to
00:16:13.860 where I live in Staffordshire. So it came up in the local news and I thought I'd look into it more.
00:16:18.340 And, you know, we've seen Starmer tell President Trump that there is still free speech in Britain.
00:16:25.380 And you can see there's not. Now, like you, I disagree that he should have said that. I mean,
00:16:30.180 it's not something that he should have said that would have come out of my mouth. But free speech
00:16:37.140 is free speech. And if he says that, he can have that opinion. He can ask that question.
00:16:42.820 And he shouldn't have to go to jail for it. Now, what makes it a little cloudy is because
00:16:48.660 Lucy Connolly, like Lucy Connolly, he actually pled guilty. But, you know, Tommy Robinson,
00:16:54.820 and you know from him how things can be manipulated and you can be intimidated. And you may only have
00:17:01.460 a duty solicitor giving you terrible advice because you can't afford your own solicitors.
00:17:06.900 But 30 months for saying that and not actually being violent is crazy to me. There was a very
00:17:14.980 famous BBC newscaster called Hugh Edwards. Now, he pleaded guilty for having child sex images and
00:17:22.740 videos on his phone. He walked away free with a suspended sentence, didn't spend a single day in
00:17:30.020 jail. And that was the judge's decision. And I've actually on my Twitter feed put a lot of
00:17:35.300 other sentences like that, where people with the most heinous images on their phones have pled guilty
00:17:41.860 or being found guilty. And the judges decide that they just need rehabilitation. So to me,
00:17:48.100 30 months, whether or not he pled guilty to disorder, it doesn't matter. I think the judge should
00:17:54.740 see that he wasn't violent. He simply used very offensive words and he should not have been locked
00:18:02.340 up, especially not for 30 months. I mean, it's an insane amount of time for just being stupid in the
00:18:08.740 moment and saying silly words. Yeah. The article in Stoke on Trent Live, which is a local newspaper,
00:18:16.340 it's fairly written fairly straight. Like it's not talked one way or the other. So I'd like to quote
00:18:21.300 from the article because it has some facts that I think strengthen what you've just said there,
00:18:28.180 Leilani. Quote, and I'm quoting now from the lawyer, there was no clear evidence that he was
00:18:38.340 physically involved in any fisticuffs. Quote, he did not attack the police. He could not be seen to throw
00:18:45.460 any missiles. He did not damage any property. He knows that by shouting the comments that he
00:18:51.220 made that he was part of the incident. But the judge found Poole had, quote, displayed hostility
00:19:01.140 towards Islam. So no one said he actually threw anything or hurt anybody or threatened to hurt
00:19:09.380 anybody. But what bothered the judge was, quote, hostility towards Islam. And I'm saying the words,
00:19:14.660 quote, quote, because I want you to know, this is not my paraphrasing. You're allowed to be hostile
00:19:19.540 to any religion. And by the way, you're allowed to be a Muslim who is hostile towards Islam. My
00:19:27.460 great late friend, Tarek Fadha, was a powerful critic and reformist. And the idea that you cannot be
00:19:36.020 hostile to an ideology, to a philosophy, and you get banged up for 30 months for that is shocking.
00:19:42.260 It is. It's shocking. And it's very dangerous as well. You know, to see this happening right now,
00:19:49.700 while our prime minister blatantly lies, saying that we can all say what we want is so dangerous.
00:19:58.100 And it's a really, really bad slippery slope, I feel. And as I said, you know, yes, he pleaded guilty
00:20:06.340 for saying those things. But we've seen, you know, he called someone a pedophile, right? No,
00:20:14.980 he wasn't done for libel or anything else. And we're seeing actual pedophiles get less time. That's
00:20:19.940 what we're seeing. That's how insane the system is in the UK. Now, we've also seen the most vile
00:20:26.500 words being used in the last few days since Charlie Kirk's assassination. And the police haven't gone for
00:20:32.740 those people because they've been offensive, because they've been hostile to be, because
00:20:37.300 they've been rude to people that, you know, really liked and respected Charlie Kirk. We haven't seen
00:20:44.740 police going over and arresting people for that kind of hostility. So it really is a one-way street
00:20:52.340 with what we're seeing here. I think you're right. And that's a two-tier thing. I mean,
00:20:56.420 the thing is about this fella here, Nathan Poole, I don't think he's a prominent person at all. I
00:21:03.700 think he's just a regular guy. The case of Lucy Connelly, and you referred to that a few minutes
00:21:08.740 ago, she was the wife of a politician, a city councilor. So she had some access to power and
00:21:17.060 access to media and access to, you know, public sympathy. But this is, as Morrissey would say,
00:21:24.980 nobody's nothing. This is a person no one's heard of. And he was railroaded, it sounds like,
00:21:31.620 with a lawyer who didn't fight hard for him. And 30 months in prison. I know in Canada, because there's
00:21:38.660 a lot of street protests in Canada. If you were to do and say these things, most likely police would
00:21:46.020 just shove you away. Or if they were to arrest you, they would just put you in the police station
00:21:51.780 for a few hours to cool you off and then let you go. And they would hope that that experience sort of
00:21:56.980 dampened your ardor. That's what happened to me. I don't know if you know Leilani. I was arrested
00:22:01.860 and held for a couple of hours just because police had nothing to charge me with. They just wanted to
00:22:06.740 move me away. I didn't like it one bit. But the idea of 30 months in prison, you're so right. Donald
00:22:14.020 Trump coming to the UK and Keir Starmer again and again lying about free speech or even using
00:22:22.020 weird language saying, we have a great history of free speech. Well, yeah, that's the thing. It's
00:22:28.340 the present and the future we're more worried about. Do you think Donald Trump is going to raise this
00:22:32.660 issue? Or do you think he's going to be on his diplomatic best behavior?
00:22:37.380 I hope he does raise the issue. It really needs to be raised. I, you know, God bless him. I watched
00:22:43.860 Charlie Kirk when he came over and he really fought Lucy Connolly's corner on a couple of news stations.
00:22:49.780 And he said he was going to talk to the Trump administration on her behalf. And I believe
00:22:54.980 that Lucy Connolly did actually meet with the Trump administration after she was let out of jail.
00:23:00.020 So let's just hope that he remembers that. And he does press Keir Starmer on it because,
00:23:07.140 you know, someone has to. We in the UK are pretty worried about it. And, you know, I'm in America
00:23:14.420 right now. I'm actually in Los Angeles and I've worn this hat that says make England great again.
00:23:19.620 And I've actually had a lot of Americans come up to me and say, don't you guys have a First Amendment?
00:23:24.740 What's happening with your free speech? Now, you wouldn't expect that in, you know, really liberal
00:23:30.100 Los Angeles, California, but it's happening. People have been asking me about it. And I think
00:23:36.500 the world's getting smaller because of shows like yours, because of live streaming social media. I
00:23:42.340 think that, you know, the message is getting out. We're seeing what's happening in Canada. We're seeing
00:23:47.620 what's happening in the USA. And Canadians and Americans are watching what's happening in the UK.
00:23:54.340 So I really, really hope that Trump isn't on his best behavior. He shouldn't be. He usually isn't.
00:24:00.900 So, you know, hopefully he doesn't feel he has to be really polite to Starmer and he really,
00:24:06.100 you know, kind of nails it in. You know, I think he's excited about the state visit. I think he
00:24:11.460 enjoys meeting the British royal family. I think he really enjoyed Queen Elizabeth. He seemed to get
00:24:18.980 along well with the prince that he met last time. So I think sometimes Trump wants the visuals, wants
00:24:27.060 the pomp and circumstance to be great. I mean, even if you look at his personal style, he, you know,
00:24:34.100 there's no royalty in America, but he is sort of a kind of royalty. Everything's in gold and glamorous
00:24:40.340 and nothing but the best. So I think that Keir Starmer, by offering him such a fancy and pomp and
00:24:47.860 circumstance style reception, maybe knows how to work Trump a bit. I think it's J.D. Vance and
00:24:53.860 Secretary of State Mark Rubio, Marco Rubio, who are a little bit more immune to those charms.
00:25:00.180 We'll see how it goes. You know what I think, Leilani, is I think that one of the things that may come
00:25:06.500 to help free speech in the UK is not just politicians talking about idealism, but social media companies,
00:25:13.780 most of which are American, saying to the president, hey, we're about to be fined billions of pounds by
00:25:22.180 their censorship rules. So it's not even just a moral issue. It's a commercial issue. Those Europeans,
00:25:29.380 not just the European Union, but the Brits, want to censor us, fine us, block us, ban us.
00:25:35.140 And that's a form of a non-tariff barrier. That's a kind of trade war. It walks and talks like
00:25:41.540 censorship and it is, but hey, it's going to cost us money. Now that's a language Trump speaks to.
00:25:47.700 And that may be what causes the free speech wave. I don't know. What do you think of that?
00:25:52.020 You know, I think you're absolutely right. I think that you can see it's happening now. Starmer's
00:25:58.740 really trying to get his grips on social media, because the thing is, is that's how the truth
00:26:06.260 gets out. You only have to see how many people watch the live streams of the rally at the weekend to
00:26:12.580 see that the mainstream media is lying. And, you know, Trump, sorry, Starmer cannot control the social
00:26:18.660 media companies. He really, really wants to. So the only way he can control it is to start
00:26:24.260 censoring it. And if it does affect those American companies, then I do think, you know, Trump is all
00:26:30.020 about business. He's all about America. And I think that could be possibly the only way he starts to take
00:26:36.100 it seriously. I got one last question for you, Leilani, and it's about Elon Musk. On Saturday,
00:26:42.900 Tommy had a bunch of speakers. I was one of them. Avi Yamini of our station was one of them. And there
00:26:48.180 were some British activists who spoke. There were a lot of European politicians, too, that probably
00:26:55.540 weren't household names. But Tommy has sort of built a coalition of populist nationalists. But the
00:27:01.380 surprise guest speaker who beamed in at 5pm sharp was no one less than Elon Musk. He didn't attend in
00:27:08.900 person for logistical and security reasons. But it was an 18 minute back and forth. And he used some very
00:27:15.140 strong language. Put aside the substance of his speech, just the fact that he was willing to be
00:27:20.660 personally associated with Tommy Robinson, despite the defamation of Tommy by the regime media, despite
00:27:28.100 the fact that he's basically being treated as an enemy of the state. I mean, Tommy was in prison just
00:27:32.900 a few months ago. So the fact that Elon Musk would associate with him, praise him, help him,
00:27:38.500 what effect does that have in the UK? I mean, some people in the UK hate him, of course. But I think
00:27:45.060 others look up to Elon Musk in different ways. Has that changed the politics at all, do you think?
00:27:51.220 Well, I think what's happened is a lot of the politicians can't necessarily attack the people
00:27:56.980 because they've seen how huge it is. They've seen how big this movement is. And while they keep trying
00:28:01.780 to say everyone was there was far right, which they're not. Or they tried to say everyone was
00:28:06.180 racist, which they're not. We've seen a lot of, there was black, Asian, all sorts of people there
00:28:12.820 at that rally. We've seen they're not. Now what I've noticed they're trying to do is attack Elon Musk,
00:28:17.860 because they have to attack something. They have to attack something within the movement. And people
00:28:21.940 aren't going to keep listening to these disparaging comments about Tommy over and over again when they
00:28:27.220 get proved wrong. So now they're just saying, you know, what's this tech billionaire getting
00:28:31.220 involved with British politics for? But I do think that Elon is a free speech absolutist. You know,
00:28:36.820 you can call him a technic brat. You can worry about the, you know, the chips he wants to put
00:28:40.980 in brains and whatever else is going on. But I do think he's a free speech absolutist. And Twitter
00:28:48.580 gave Tommy a massive platform to be able to put his documentary out for people to see. And so many
00:28:56.260 people were able to see the two-tier policing, the lies, the corruption. And I think that's probably
00:29:03.780 how Elon kind of got to know who Tommy was seeing this documentary just blow up all over X.
00:29:11.940 And I personally, I'm always a little mixed on Elon as for the things I've said, but I'm really glad
00:29:17.700 that he did come on there and give his time to say what's going on in England. And he's a,
00:29:23.860 he gives it an even bigger platform. So I'm really grateful that he did that. I think it's really
00:29:29.940 huge for us. And, and, you know, like I said, like the politicians now are going to attack him
00:29:35.220 because they're finding it hard to attack, you know, us. There's too many of us.
00:29:40.660 Yeah. Very interesting days. The battle's not over though, as the sentencing of Nathan Poole shows.
00:29:48.260 In fact, we have a new freelance reporter in the UK, Emma Dunwell, and I was speaking with her
00:29:52.740 earlier today. I want to see if we can make contact with Nathan Poole's family,
00:29:56.660 because I think he was railroaded in part because he didn't have a strong lawyer and a lot of working
00:30:02.500 class Brits. I mean, who has a lawyer? No one has a lawyer on standby and they're pressured,
00:30:07.940 they're railroaded. I really feel like this guy was railroaded just like Lucy Connelly. So,
00:30:13.860 I mean, I, I say that things have never been worse in the UK, but I think in some ways things have
00:30:20.020 never been better either. When you have such a massive group of people standing up, I think
00:30:24.180 that people are finding their identity and their courage again. And I'm riveted by it. I'm a bit
00:30:29.620 of an Anglophile anyways, but I like seeing how it goes. Leilani, it's really nice to meet you.
00:30:33.860 Thanks for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you. It's great to have you. I enjoy your Twitter feed
00:30:38.340 also because it's part punditry and it's part, you're sort of like the lady Jeremy Clarkson,
00:30:44.340 the farm hero of the UK. So I get a real kick out of it. And thanks for spending some time with us.
00:30:50.260 Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. You take care. All the best. There she is,
00:30:53.780 Leilani Downing. Stay with us more ahead.
00:31:04.660 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about the big rally in London.
00:31:08.580 Raftworks says no wonder why the mainstream media is slowly fading out into irrelevance.
00:31:13.940 Yeah. You know what? I was, I was in the, uh, a story by the Observer UK, which is a very old
00:31:21.460 news magazine. It's actually centuries old. It's got a great old reputation, a great past. I don't
00:31:28.260 know if it's got a great present or future. Um, and they smeared me and smeared Tommy and it was
00:31:34.100 sort of laughable. They dug up, it was just, it was a pretty weak hit job, but I sort of felt like
00:31:40.420 like, who cares? I mean, Tommy's live streamed rally last I checked, it had about a billion with
00:31:48.820 a B views in different social media platforms. What do I care if some little fancy pants magazine
00:31:56.660 doesn't like me or Tommy Robinson? Like, I mean, that's the gift of Elon Musk by re, uh, reviving
00:32:04.660 canceled people and by re platforming canceled people. That's why the left hates Elon Musk so much
00:32:11.140 because he's allowed everyone to go around the mainstream media. Sure. I sort of care what
00:32:16.740 they think because I don't like people lying, but there's so many independent journalists these days.
00:32:22.340 I mean, there were dozens at the rally. It almost doesn't matter. Next letter by Super Dave YouTube
00:32:28.740 says, I rode 650 miles on my bike to attend. It was fantastic. I believe it was easily a million
00:32:35.060 attendees. Check the drone pictures out. Tommy is our new Churchill. The rally was fun, happy,
00:32:40.340 no trouble. A great Patriots day out. We will never surrender. It really had a wonderful feeling to it.
00:32:46.420 Now there was some serious rain. In fact, it was sort of drenched for a bit there, but I guess that's
00:32:51.060 the UK four years, always a little bit of rain. Um, didn't stop people from coming in huge numbers.
00:32:57.860 John, uh, FL3 LP says, Canadian citizens have to do the same. Yeah. I mean, I was asked,
00:33:06.580 why hasn't that spirit come here? Cause I see it in Ireland, huge rallies, see it in England, huge
00:33:12.660 rallies. So what about Canada? Well, it's interesting because in Ireland and England, they have the same
00:33:18.660 problem. The existing political establishment does not listen to them in Ireland. It's even worse than
00:33:24.740 in England because there is no political party that has any standing in the polls that would tackle the
00:33:30.980 problem. As I mentioned earlier today, Nigel Farage's reform party in the UK is talking tough. And so
00:33:38.020 they're leading the polls in Canada. We have the conservative party, which is sort of talking tough.
00:33:43.940 Pierre Polyev really didn't get into this subject in the last election. He sort of avoided it.
00:33:48.100 He wanted to talk about carbon taxes. He couldn't really, he didn't want to talk about Trump. I think,
00:33:53.140 I think he could have chosen the controversy of immigration, switched the subject off of Trump.
00:33:58.500 And I think he could have won the election. So I think the reason we're not having hundreds of
00:34:02.660 thousands of people in the streets is because we're not in the crisis. Those countries are where no
00:34:08.180 sitting parties will help them. But we need the conservatives to really make this their forceful
00:34:14.980 issue. And if they do, I think they'll win. Well, that's the story for the day. Until tomorrow,
00:34:20.900 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,
00:34:24.900 and keep fighting for freedom.