Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Pierre Poilievre wins the Conservative Party leadership race, and the battle is on

00:00:00.320 Hello, my Rebels. What an interesting weekend, including the results of the leadership contest

00:00:05.400 at the Conservative Party of Canada. Pierre Paulyab getting 68% of the points, a crushing

00:00:10.080 first ballot victory. I'll tell you more about that victory, more about his speech, more

00:00:14.500 about what it was like being at the convention and what I think the next months or years

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00:01:02.960 Tonight, Pierre Polyev wins the Conservative Party's leadership race, and the battle is on.

00:01:23.700 It's September 12th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:30.060 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:41.800 Well, this weekend, the Conservative Party of Canada had the results of its leadership contest. It's no

00:01:46.780 surprise that Pierre Polyev won. But what was, I think, somewhat surprising was the strength of his

00:01:52.860 win. More than 68 percent of all the points on the first ballot. I say points because it wasn't

00:01:59.120 quite votes. He won even more votes. But in the party's system, each electoral district was given

00:02:06.820 100 points. So if you won 70 percent of that district, you get 70 points, whether that district

00:02:13.400 had 200 members or 2,000. The idea was to give smaller districts the same weight as bigger districts.

00:02:20.260 This quirk in the rules was supposed to benefit Jean Charest, who thought, perhaps, and convinced

00:02:25.780 others that he would win the smaller population districts in Quebec. Alas, he did not. Polyev won

00:02:31.880 almost every district in the country. Here's the moment that was announced to the crowd in the

00:02:38.060 Shaw Convention Center in Ottawa.

00:02:39.700 Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, I have some results. I have some results.

00:02:53.580 It's my great privilege to announce the results.

00:02:57.780 We have a new leader.

00:03:01.380 The next Prime Minister of Canada, the Honourable Pierre Poilièvre.

00:03:31.380 It was such a dominant win. The evening came to a close quite quickly. Now, I was down there

00:03:40.360 as I had been on previous party, in fact, in that very same building when the party selected other

00:03:48.400 leaders, too, except for there were moments where Rebel News was banned by the Conservative Party. You

00:03:55.240 might recall both Andrew Scheer turned against us and Erin O'Toole as well. We have always stayed the

00:04:01.100 same. We're conservative. We're populist. We believe in telling the other side of the story and

00:04:05.560 standing up for the little guy. But for their own reasons, Andrew Scheer and Erin O'Toole blackballed

00:04:11.520 us. What was interesting, we were welcomed by the party this time, not just welcomed. We were set up

00:04:18.500 on what they call a riser at the back of the room, along with all the other media companies to have our

00:04:23.880 camera pointing at the stage in the front. So we were there at Pride of Place. In fact,

00:04:31.040 we were right near the center. It was exciting to be back in there. And just walking into the

00:04:36.340 convention center, I went with Alexa Lavoie and our young reporter, William Diaz Bertione from Ottawa,

00:04:43.420 and producer, cameraman, Guillaume Waugh. We had an all-Francophone team there, actually,

00:04:49.140 which was really fun for me as a Westerner to think how much Rebel News has grown. And he was just

00:04:54.080 walking into the convention center. We couldn't move 10 feet without someone coming over to say

00:04:59.020 hello and congrats to the Rebel, and can they take a selfie? Not just me, but of course Alexa, our star

00:05:04.060 from Montreal, who had done such amazing work during the Ottawa convoy. I didn't even have to show ID.

00:05:11.000 They said, oh, Mr. Levant, come here and get your media pass. And the reason I tell you these things

00:05:16.040 is, I mean, they're completely normal. We're media. We would get a media pass. It was a public event.

00:05:20.980 We would go to cover it. Is that the Conservative Party hardened its heart towards us under both

00:05:26.740 Andrew Scheer and Aaron O'Toole. They're both gone. In the case of O'Toole, it's because he was not

00:05:31.820 conservative enough. The truckers actually dispatched him. But it was a reminder that just

00:05:36.800 because the party leadership didn't much like our reporting, I tell you, the people in that

00:05:41.480 convention did. They never stopped liking Rebel News. They knew we told it like it was. And frankly,

00:05:47.180 they agreed with us that Aaron O'Toole had to go. It's just good luck that the truckers had him

00:05:52.800 thrown out the window. Otherwise, Pierre Polyev would not now be the leader. And who amongst us

00:05:57.920 could possibly think that tired, timid Aaron O'Toole would have a chance against Trudeau as opposed to

00:06:06.240 Pierre Polyev? Just simply the raw number of memberships that he sold. He claims he sold more

00:06:11.900 than 300,000. And the statistics of his results seems to back that up. Just in terms of the

00:06:17.860 interest and the excitement, literally having thousands of people attend, even in small centers

00:06:23.600 for his speeches, who could deny that trading from Aaron O'Toole to Pierre Polyev is a trade up,

00:06:30.100 not just in terms of ideology, but in terms of winnability. So that was very interesting. We were in

00:06:35.900 the right place there. We live streamed our coverage of the event. We had over 100,000 people

00:06:42.380 watch. That puts us in the same league as some mainstream media outlets. And it was just me

00:06:47.400 sitting in a chair with my little ear pods and William filming things on his cell phone. We were

00:06:53.700 very low budget. That's the Rebel News way. And yet we had more coverage and more viewers than many

00:06:59.180 mainstream media outlets. I enjoyed the evening. I enjoyed seeing people that I had been banned from

00:07:07.080 seeing in a long time, either banned by the anti-gathering rules of the lockdowns we've been

00:07:12.220 living under for the last two years or banned by red Tories who didn't like Rebel News much and wouldn't

00:07:18.000 have allowed us in in the past. So it was nice to catch up. Over the course of the evening, we had

00:07:22.020 members of parliament stop by in our Rebel News chair to chat. Here's a member of the party caucus who

00:07:28.780 was not on any particular team because he was part of the interim leadership of the party in the

00:07:34.920 parliament during the leadership race. It was nice to have him on the show. We had the Roman Baber,

00:07:41.880 one of the candidates who fared fairly well. He popped by to give us an update afterwards. Here's

00:07:47.380 just a listen to Roman Baber. I asked him, what's he going to do now? Because I think he made a very

00:07:51.980 strong impression. He got about 5% of the vote, which doesn't sound like a lot. But remember,

00:07:56.020 at the beginning of this, he did not have federal experience. He had never been an MP.

00:08:00.900 He was a member of the provincial parliament under Doug Ford before Ford got rid of him for his

00:08:05.680 principled objection to the lockdowns. For someone who was really only known in one district in the

00:08:10.220 country, to place a strong showing like that was quite impressive, I thought. And I think he's got

00:08:15.720 a bright future. Here's an excerpt from my interview with Roman Baber.

00:08:19.400 Pierre Polyev, 68%, very dominant. You were not an MP. You were active in the provincial PC party,

00:08:29.820 but you debuted. I mean, for you to have a 5% ahead of Scott Aitchison, not far behind John

00:08:37.560 Chirain, I think you rung a bell. I mean, listen, Pierre Polyev was dominant, but I think you connected

00:08:44.480 with something in the Conservative Party. What do you think that was?

00:08:49.480 I have to congratulate Pierre on a very decisive victory. He ran a very strong campaign,

00:08:54.920 and I have optimism for the future of the Conservative Party, especially given the depth

00:08:59.980 that he showed tonight and the conciliatory tone that he offered to John Chirain. I thought that was

00:09:05.360 very good because the most important thing we need to do right now is unite as a party and embrace

00:09:10.780 all Conservatives so we can defeat Justin Trudeau and eliminate what I think, frankly,

00:09:16.240 is the existential risk of facing our democracy. Ezra, we've ran a terrific campaign. I've been

00:09:21.920 fighting for Canadian democracy and for millions of Canadians that haven't had a voice for the last

00:09:26.380 couple of years. Of course, it cost me my role with the provincial government, but I'm delighted that

00:09:33.100 without question, we were able to push all the candidates in the democracy direction,

00:09:39.280 and that means we'll help shape this race and therefore our party and therefore our country.

00:09:43.740 I just want to emphasize that. I mean, you were the MPP for York Centre, and you won that, which is,

00:09:49.040 you know, in the greater Toronto area, not too far north. So that's the kind of turf that the

00:09:56.300 federal party will need to win to get a majority. To go from one district to winning votes across the

00:10:04.160 country, I think people liked the fact that you proved, you suffered for the cause. You were kicked

00:10:14.540 out of a government on a point of principle. That feels rare. That's a kind of ethical price to pay

00:10:21.720 that few politicians have done. I think that's why you resonated. And I think you're right. I think the

00:10:27.100 other candidates picked up on your message. How do you feel about Paulyev's comments about the

00:10:33.700 Arrive Can app and mandates and other hangovers from the whole lockdown mania?

00:10:40.240 That he showed some depth today. It wasn't, he didn't scratch the surface. He went into substantive

00:10:47.540 issues, and he drew a difference between himself and our Conservative Party and Justin Trudeau and

00:10:53.420 the Liberals. I like the fact that he was very clear that issues of the economy is something that's

00:10:59.100 very, very predominant. But at the same time, he did not leave individual choice and our freedoms

00:11:04.560 decide. And I have every confidence that he will restore freedom of speech and freedom of choice.

00:11:10.640 And at the same time, really resonate with Canadians on what is now turning into a major issue,

00:11:17.860 and that is the cost of living. Justin Trudeau is going to be thinking about the next pair of socks

00:11:22.140 he's going to wear. Pierre Paulyev is going to think about making life for Canadians more affordable.

00:11:28.760 Of course, ahead of Roman Baber is someone who I think can be called the fan favorite. She didn't win.

00:11:34.560 And she didn't win Jean Charest, but she wasn't far behind. I'm talking about Dr. Leslyn Lewis,

00:11:39.600 who we've had on the show many times. In fact, on her previous campaign, her first campaign

00:11:44.340 appearance was Rebel News. And I chatted a bit with her campaign manager, Steve Outhouse. Here's an

00:11:50.640 excerpt from that. Sheila, sitting with me now is Steve Outhouse, who is the boss of the Leslyn Lewis

00:11:56.920 campaign. It's a pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks very much. You know, there's a lot of overlap

00:12:02.340 between Rebel News viewers and Leslyn Lewis. Wherever I go, people want to talk to me about

00:12:07.020 her, ask me about her. They're rooting for her. What is it about Leslyn Lewis that has

00:12:12.660 built such a dedicated following? I know I sound like a fanboy here, but I'm just reporting to you.

00:12:17.660 Wherever I go, there's a special depth of commitment. Why is it? I have a theory, but I want to hear it

00:12:22.660 from you. Well, I think she's been willing to kind of talk about issues that maybe other candidates

00:12:26.940 have been a bit shy to discuss. And I think that kind of mirrors your audience a bit too,

00:12:32.240 where they're kind of looking to go a bit deeper on a few different things. And her background in

00:12:35.380 international law in particular, right now, there's a huge interest in sovereignty issues

00:12:38.860 like you're well aware of. And there's been a lot of requests. And she's been going kind of

00:12:42.600 across the country. And she did over about 110 campaign events that came up in every event that

00:12:49.260 we have. Sovereignty. So you're talking about globalism, World Economic Forum, stuff like that?

00:12:52.740 What are the connections with these kind of global organizations and what sort of impact it has on

00:12:56.240 Canada? So it was fun talking to these folks before our cameras were rolling, where I was just sitting

00:13:01.880 there and getting ready for the night. Jenny Byrne, the campaign manager for Pierre Polyev came over

00:13:06.740 and chatted with me and talked. We talked a little bit about the place of Rebel News and the media

00:13:11.620 ecosystem. And it was interesting to me, the approach taken by Polyev towards the media,

00:13:17.540 I think it's an excellent approach. It's not worthy to me that Polyev did not

00:13:21.520 do an interview with any of the media who were there. In the past, Aaron O'Toole would have or

00:13:28.160 Andrew Scheer would have gone and sat down with CTV and then sat down with CBC and then sat down with

00:13:35.380 Global News and had a interview like they would have bent the knee and been a part of the process.

00:13:43.580 And Polyev did not do that. He puts out the media he wants to do. He puts out his own social media.

00:13:49.860 He gives speeches and access to them, but he does not over respect the press. And it's not just him.

00:13:57.140 I have to say the star of the evening, I mean, Pierre Polyev, it was obviously his night and he

00:14:01.300 won. And later on the show, we'll show you an excerpt or two from his speech. But I have to say

00:14:06.660 the highlight of the speech for me was Pierre Polyev's wife, who I had seen in little video clips

00:14:11.840 before, but I'd never seen her speak at length. She gave a great speech. She's a good talker.

00:14:16.180 She's a good thinker. She's smart. She's political. She happens to speak three languages, English, 0.91

00:14:21.240 French and Spanish. She, her family came from Venezuela. I want to show you. Here, let me

00:14:26.320 run a couple of minutes of Anaida Polyev's talk. I thought it was good.

00:14:29.840 My husband and I share the same values, although our background is a little different.

00:14:37.060 On Marie and moi, nous partageons les mêmes valeurs, malgré que notre parcours est un peu

00:14:40.760 différent. I was born in Caracas, Venezuela, and my family immigrated to Canada in 1995,

00:14:48.700 in a working-class neighborhood in the east end of Montreal.

00:14:52.000 My father, he went from wearing business suits and managing a bank to jumping on the back

00:14:59.600 of a pickup truck to collect fruits and vegetables, because that's what he had to do to feed his

00:15:05.360 family. The Galindo family present here tonight taught us hard work and that there is no greater

00:15:12.800 dignity than to provide for your own family.

00:15:21.480 Years later, here we are. My father is a small business owner, and my siblings went all from

00:15:28.400 their humble beginnings, including me working at McDonald's, to being a renovator, a registered

00:15:35.620 practical nurse, a proud member of the Canadian Air Forces. And here I am, let's feed the point

00:15:43.480 at home, standing in front of you and by my husband's side.

00:15:50.880 You know what else I like about her, besides the fact that she's a believer and obviously up for the

00:15:56.100 campaign and energetic, which by the way, Sophie Trudeau is not. And I'm not picking on Sophie Trudeau,

00:16:01.820 but I truly am not. I don't think she's a public person. I mean, she was a TV presenter, so how could

00:16:06.820 she not be a public person? Well, she clearly is at odds with Justin Trudeau. She rarely campaigns

00:16:12.240 with him, appears once or twice for some photo ops, and then is never seen. For example, she's actually

00:16:16.720 was doing a TED Talk with Hillary Clinton and bizarrely asked Hillary Clinton for relationship

00:16:22.820 advice. And if you're looking up to Bill and Hillary Clinton for relationship advice, it tells me you'll

00:16:27.840 take advice from anyone. You take a look. You know, stay in my marriage. And, and, you know, I said,

00:16:33.860 that's not the right choice for everybody. Sometimes the gutsy thing is not to, but everybody should be

00:16:39.520 given the opportunity to make those difficult choices about relationships the best that they

00:16:46.660 can, because it goes back to the Maya Angelou quote, I mean, do the best you can. And now when you know

00:16:52.140 how to do better, do better. And I really wanted to highlight and we have people there who lost their

00:16:59.080 spouses, both husbands and same sex partners, we, you know, talk with Gloria Steinem, who was engaged when

00:17:06.480 she was a young woman and broke the engagement because it didn't seem like the life that she wanted to

00:17:12.160 live. We really tried to cover the gambit of the most personal aspects of our lives where yeah, we're called to be gutsy.

00:17:22.120 And does being gutsy mean re-imagining love and relationships? You know, Esther Perel, she says

00:17:30.220 that because of our emotional and relational immaturity, we have a tendency to want to kill a

00:17:36.020 relationship instead of re-questioning its structure. Love is taking on so many different

00:17:40.580 forms from all gender, from all race, from, and really as long as human beings are happy, is it not

00:17:46.580 our responsibility to keep an open mind to re-imagine how love can express freely? Amen.

00:17:52.680 Absolutely. Yes. I absolutely think you're right. All right. I don't mean to pick on Sophie Trudeau,

00:17:58.060 but my point is, where is she these days? She does not campaign with Justin Trudeau because she is

00:18:04.300 not built for public life. She says the goofiest things and the party does not let her out. 1.00

00:18:10.320 Oneida Polyev is the opposite. She's brilliant. She's more attractive and more winning personality 0.89

00:18:17.020 than her husband. A little bit like Lorene Harper in that way, who had some emotional intelligence that

00:18:22.260 the colder Stephen Harper didn't have. I think Oneida is going to be a secret weapon, not just as a

00:18:28.200 campaign spouse who is telegenic, but also very warm connections. I think she's going to be a bridge

00:18:35.260 to new immigrants in other communities that don't underestimate her power. And my favorite thing

00:18:40.320 about Oneida Polyev is this. Look at this exchange just not too long ago. Look at this series of

00:18:46.600 tweets. The CBC apparently learned that Oneida Polyev, before she met and married Pierre Polyev,

00:18:56.220 worked in the House of Commons, worked for other members of parliament. And the CBC asked,

00:19:01.400 well, if she married Pierre Polyev, shouldn't she be fired by the conservative MP for whom she 0.55

00:19:07.580 worked? It was a bizarre thing that the liberals would never say about anyone else. But look at

00:19:12.840 Oneida Polyev's stream of Twitter comments poking back hard at the CBC. You would never see that

00:19:23.980 from Mrs. O'Toole or Mrs. Scheer, neither of whom was a particularly useful campaigner.

00:19:30.460 But you most certainly would never see that from a politician on the left. You would never poke back

00:19:35.520 at the CBC. Even if they were mean to you, you would have a private call with them. But Oneida Polyev

00:19:40.640 understands what her husband does, which is the real enemy is not the Liberal Party. It is the media

00:19:46.480 party. More and more Canadians have learned to distrust Trudeau. They have been disillusioned by

00:19:51.660 him. He is not the threat. No one trusts him really. No one believes he's really the brains of the

00:19:56.640 operation. But the smear machine in the media party is what you have to watch out for. Trudeau is too

00:20:02.380 smart to say we should pick on Oneida Polyev. She should be fired. But the CBC will do his dirty work

00:20:07.700 for him. And the fact that Oneida Polyev pushed back at them is the most encouraging thing. Would you

00:20:14.640 not agree? So I attended there along with our team. And it was great to have a catch up, not just with the

00:20:22.640 people on TV, but the people I spoke with privately. What was interesting is the grassroots

00:20:26.740 loved us. Jenny Byrne of Polyev's own office had a good heart to heart with us. But there were some

00:20:33.560 people there who didn't like us much. And I would say it was the professional political class,

00:20:37.660 the mercenaries, who were only too happy to do Aaron O'Toole's bidding and fight with us. It's the

00:20:44.780 same, I think, in every institutions. You have the professional elite. And the trouble is that they

00:20:50.980 they have similar traits to the professional political elite of other parties. I hope that

00:20:56.580 Pierre Polyev can remake the campaign, the party and the parliament to be more respectful

00:21:02.380 of true conservative grassroots instead of the do anything Aaron O'Toole says professional political

00:21:08.660 class. But either way, I had a lot of fun there. I actually chatted with some media from other

00:21:14.080 companies too. And by the way, not every reporter from the mainstream media looks down on Rebel News.

00:21:19.620 I'm not going to say who I was talking to because I don't want him to get the mean treatment from his

00:21:25.640 colleagues. But I spoke with one prominent reporter who said, look, there should be more voices in the

00:21:31.320 conversation. Let's keep talking with each other. That was his way of saying he doesn't necessarily

00:21:35.140 agree with everything Rebel News does, but he's glad we're a voice. I really appreciate that.

00:21:39.460 And because I appreciate it, I will not identify him in this conversation. I should tell you,

00:21:43.980 though the media swarm is coming, they know their marching orders. They also know, for example,

00:21:48.420 the CBC that Polyev has said he will defund them. And he most certainly will, at least more likely

00:21:53.520 than Stephen Harper. Stephen Harper proved that you cannot tame the wild animal called the CBC. Even

00:22:00.280 if you pay it for 10 years like Harper did, it'll still bite your hand. And there's no point in

00:22:06.200 pretending that they can like you. They simply will not. The media swarm is coming even more than ever

00:22:12.100 because they're all on the payroll. Trudeau's media bailout now.

00:22:16.860 What's interesting is the language. In a moment, I'm going to show you some language

00:22:20.600 that Melanie Jolie, one of Trudeau's generals, used today to describe Pierre Polyev. And you can see

00:22:27.420 it rings hollow. It's a rehash, a reheat of comments made in previous elections that just won't click

00:22:33.560 anymore. The liberals are the party of hope and hard work. Yeah, that was your motto back in 2015,

00:22:40.140 sister. I don't think that's really going to click in 2022 when no one under 40 can afford to buy a

00:22:46.060 house in a city like Toronto or Vancouver. When few people can afford to fill up the car, gas is so

00:22:53.360 expensive. When inflation in groceries is terrifying. And when interest rates are skyrocketing, can you

00:23:01.000 even buy a house now? I don't think, hey, we're the party of hope and hard work works after seven years.

00:23:07.400 You'll see Justin Trudeau's being working on some lines for Pierre Polyev, but I think it's going to

00:23:11.520 be very interesting. I think we are in a kind of recession. You could say it's stagflation, a kind

00:23:18.420 of stagnation plus inflation. And I see this because I see it in my own city. If you're not making six

00:23:25.140 figures, how do you ever get into a home? How do you scrape together a down payment? Now, maybe because

00:23:30.820 the market has cooled off because of the high interest rates, but fine, you can't afford the high

00:23:34.760 interest rates. I think we are in a deep trouble. And I think a lot of it is on Trudeau, but he's

00:23:39.120 never been good at dealing with issues. He's always been the fancy socks guy, the selfies guy. I don't

00:23:45.440 know if it works anymore. We can see some of the attacks from the media party. Althea Raj made this

00:23:50.920 bizarre attack, mocking Pierre Polyev for caring about, you know, young people who can't move out of

00:23:57.380 their parents' basements. Raj said, those are people living in their mom's basements who can't

00:24:03.200 get a date. Now, Althea, it's not that they are incels or whatever you want to say. It's that if

00:24:09.900 you cannot afford to get your own place and you're living in your parents' basement, not because you're

00:24:14.080 a bad person or even that you're poor, but rather because housing prices are so astronomical and now

00:24:19.260 so is interest rates too. You actually can't start your life. You can't likely find someone and form a

00:24:25.700 family and have kids. You can't do that if you can't afford to buy a house. And it's not because

00:24:30.580 these are nerdy losers in their parents' homes. They're in their parents' homes because Trudeau's 0.99

00:24:36.180 housing policies, which includes inflation, and by the way, the highest immigration levels

00:24:40.520 in history, pouring hundreds of thousands more people into the housing market. That's why they 0.92

00:24:45.160 can't afford a home. That's why they can't afford a home. I think there's a chance we will see a snap

00:24:51.060 election. The liberals have done that before. They did that to Stockwell the day before. You might

00:24:55.320 recall when he took over the Canadian Alliance party from Preston Manning and all of a sudden

00:25:00.740 he was younger, cooler, spoke better French, seemed more energetic and hip. I think Chrétien was a

00:25:06.560 little bit afraid of him, enough that he called the snap election so that the media party could define

00:25:12.280 Stockwell day before he defined himself, but before Stockwell day could properly introduce himself to

00:25:17.420 the country. Now, Pierre Polyev is not an unknown factor, but he's not well known around the country.

00:25:23.940 And I think that Justin Trudeau may be tempted to do the same thing. He may be tempted to call a snap

00:25:29.360 election and dump a ton of money demonizing Polyev, although he doesn't have to spend a cent because

00:25:34.660 the media will do it for him. There is also another scenario I hear murmured about. Maybe Trudeau himself

00:25:41.940 will be shuffled out, maybe replaced by Chrystia Freeland, who is in many ways the de facto Prime Minister. 1.00

00:25:47.680 Trudeau, of course, just working on photo ops and relationships while Freeland engages in the actual

00:25:53.500 levers of power. I'm not sure if I believe that, though, because I think Justin Trudeau really has no other

00:25:58.820 job to go to. I don't think that he will be received at the United Nations, where I think, frankly, he would have been

00:26:04.120 a better fit there seven years ago than his Prime Minister. He likes doing mascot type things. He likes having no

00:26:10.400 accountability, no elections. He likes traveling around the world and being really cool and showing his socks. That is a fit for a

00:26:16.780 place like the United Nations. But I think they've soured on him over the years. And of course, they rejected

00:26:22.360 his application for Canada to be part of the Security Council. I don't think he has that place to go to.

00:26:27.600 And he still wants the luxuries of being the Prime Minister, the private jet, the endless vacations.

00:26:34.600 And I think he probably wants to match his own father's 16 years in office as Prime Minister.

00:26:40.400 So I think Trudeau is going to stick around. I think that the good news is there's finally some

00:26:47.740 opposition in this country. Now, I do hope that Pierre Pagliot beats Justin Trudeau in the next

00:26:52.040 election and does what he says, ranging from unlocking Canada's oil and gas, building the pipelines,

00:26:58.740 stopping the crazy coming war against agriculture, getting out of the tax and spend

00:27:03.660 and inflate plans of the liberals, ending the vaccine mandates, ending the arrive can app.

00:27:10.520 All of those things are wonderful. And frankly, it feels like a rebel news checklist.

00:27:14.940 I hope he becomes Prime Minister, but I know this, even until he does, or even if he does not,

00:27:21.360 he will be more of an opposition than Aaron O'Toole or Andrew Scheer everywhere. And I emphasize

00:27:26.580 Aaron O'Toole because in the most difficult time in our recent history,

00:27:32.340 when there was a crisis and a civil liberties crisis packed on top of that and an economic crisis

00:27:39.680 packed on top of that, most of the crisis generated by people, not by a virus. Aaron O'Toole

00:27:47.000 failed the test. He did not do what he ought to have done and being Her Majesty's loyal opposition,

00:27:53.920 he was not that. He did not oppose. He did not loyally oppose. And because there was no opposition,

00:28:00.360 this country suffered. And because he was not an opposition, conservatives did not vote for him

00:28:05.280 with any enthusiasm. I think that Pierre Polyev will oppose not just the Liberal Party,

00:28:12.940 but he'll also oppose the Media Party and his wife will too. I think Pierre Polyev has a real chance

00:28:19.040 of winning and I hope he does. But I know that starting today, he's already provided more opposition

00:28:25.840 and more arguments and facts against Jason, Justin Trudeau than either of the last two leaders did.

00:28:31.620 In that sense, it's a good time and it's good news. And the rebel news has an important part to play

00:28:37.920 too. And that happened over the weekend as well. Stay with us. We'll talk more about this with our

00:28:42.880 friend, Spencer Fernando, next.

00:28:52.740 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:28:58.560 And there are people in this country who are just hanging on by a thread. These are citizens

00:29:14.400 of our country. We are their servants. We owe them hope. They don't need a government that sneers at

00:29:21.020 them, looks down on them, calls them names. They don't need a government to run their lives. They need

00:29:26.380 a government that can run a passport office.

00:29:31.900 That was part of Pierre Polyev's remarks on Saturday night when he won the Conservative

00:29:38.480 Leadership Contest on the first ballot with more than 60 percent of the points. Remember,

00:29:44.240 they had a point system where every district had 100 points. But even in raw votes, his results were

00:29:51.040 even more impressive. Polyev winning more than 90 percent of all the districts in the country.

00:29:56.380 I think that blunted some of the wishes of the opposition and the media party who thought there

00:30:03.800 would be a great division and Jean Charest might storm off in a huff. That didn't happen. I think

00:30:08.960 partly because Polyev did so well, even in areas that Charest was thought to be strong, Quebec

00:30:14.440 especially. I thought the speech was interesting and positive. I'd heard much of it before from Polyev,

00:30:20.800 as I mentioned on the night's live stream, where we had over 100,000 viewers, by the way. It was very

00:30:26.500 exciting. The star of the night was Oneida Polyev, Pierre Polyev's wife, who's a great communicator,

00:30:35.460 a great speechmaker, trilingual, English, French, and Spanish. Her family fled Venezuela.

00:30:45.120 Very strong comments by both Pierre Polyev and his wife Oneida about new Canadians and about starting

00:30:52.540 from scratch. I thought it was a strong debut. Let's talk a little bit about the weekend's

00:30:58.180 convention and then we'll update you with some of the back and forth today between Polyev and

00:31:04.680 Trudeau and his campaign generals. But let's start by going to our friend in Winnipeg, Spencer Fernando,

00:31:11.680 the boss of SpencerFernando.com. Great to see you, Spencer. I'm sure you were riveted by the event,

00:31:17.760 although it wasn't really much of a surprise. I think everyone thought Polyev would win.

00:31:23.860 But the question is, would it be on the first round and how resoundingly? What did you think

00:31:28.580 of the result? Did you expect it to be around that? Well, I was certainly confident Polyev was

00:31:34.420 going to win. I think people would have been shocked if anything else happened. The extent of his win,

00:31:39.400 I mean, it leaves no doubt that the party's united behind him and that the party supports him.

00:31:45.180 And so, as you say, you know, the liberals and the media were certainly hoping for a result where

00:31:49.700 they could say, oh, look how divided the conservatives are. You know, Jean Charest is going to leave and

00:31:54.300 he's going to take a bunch of people with him and maybe start his own party. He just can't really do

00:31:58.280 that now. I mean, he got so, so severely beaten in the results that he has no real ability to,

00:32:04.400 you know, say that he represents any large portion of the party at all. And that's why he's going back

00:32:08.760 to the private sector. So I think it's a good result for the country. It's a good result for the

00:32:12.900 fact that we're going to have a real, you know, ideological choice in the next election, not the

00:32:16.860 conservatives pretending to be the liberals. And that's very positive.

00:32:20.280 You know, I think that campaigns, no campaign is quite like the one before it. They say about generals,

00:32:27.600 they're always want to refight the last war. And in, in politics, you see that a bit too. Let me

00:32:33.720 show you, for example, Melanie Jolie, who's a cabinet minister under Trudeau. I want to show

00:32:41.300 you her reaction. And you tell me, does this sound like she's just reheating the talking points from

00:32:48.700 2015 when the liberals ran against Stephen Harper? Take a listen.

00:32:54.040 People want Canadians value good government. And they don't want the polarization they've seen in

00:33:00.820 other countries, including south of the border. So based on that, we'll make sure that we deliver,

00:33:06.620 that we're connected. And meanwhile, for the rest, if Pierre Palliev wants to go into,

00:33:11.860 you know, division, it's his decision. We'll be about hope and hard work.

00:33:18.080 Hope and hard work. I literally think that was their campaign motto from 2015. There was a

00:33:23.960 little bit of your Donald Trump of the North division in the South. It's a bit rich for the

00:33:28.700 party that has spent two years demonizing unvaccinated people saying, should we even

00:33:32.840 tolerate them? I'm not sure if they've quite worked out their message track about how to handle

00:33:37.660 Pierre Palliev. What do you think? Yeah, they're just rehashing what they did in 2015. And they're

00:33:44.360 just, you know, I'm just, I just wrote something for the National Citizens Coalition that'll be coming

00:33:48.180 out soon. And I talk about how, you know, it's, are they just pretending the last seven

00:33:52.100 years didn't happen? I mean, did they forget that in the 2021 election, they, they ran on

00:33:57.300 dividing the country and demonizing unvaccinated people. So it seems like it's, it's all gaslighting

00:34:02.780 from them. Gaslighting is going to be their strategy going forward. But I just don't think

00:34:06.520 people are going to buy it the same way. I think it's, you just, you know, you can fool people in

00:34:10.040 your first election and pretend to be positive when there's no real track record to look at. But

00:34:14.860 the liberals can't do that now. So yeah, they're going to try that. They're going to do the whole

00:34:19.320 thing where they're going to have a few of their top people will try to say how positive

00:34:22.540 they are. And then all the people on the state controlled media are going to be extremely

00:34:26.060 negative, trying to divide and tear apart the country and go after Paulieff. So, you

00:34:29.960 know, we know they're going to try that, but I think people are going to push back against

00:34:33.400 it. As we saw people in the conservative leadership race push back against the media narrative.

00:34:38.020 Yeah. I want to talk a little bit more in a moment about how the media, how Paulieff's approach

00:34:45.440 with the media is quite different from past conservatives. But I want to show you something

00:34:49.160 in Toronto Star. This caught me by surprise. For weeks, the Toronto Star has been demonizing

00:34:54.280 Pierre Paulieff, calling him extremist, saying he's the politics of rage. Watch out, Paulieff,

00:34:59.080 you're going to cause some, you know, violence or something. I mean, the headlines were so over

00:35:04.520 the top. But after Paulieff's speech on the weekend, the Toronto Star ran this headline

00:35:10.140 where they acknowledged that his message was actually hopeful and that he was talking about

00:35:16.540 real problems, whether it was the price of housing or people's inability to, you know,

00:35:22.580 start their lives because of inflation. And even the Toronto Star, which is a diehard liberal

00:35:28.380 newspaper and, you know, is the largest recipient of media bailouts. Even they are reflecting the

00:35:36.020 fact that, well, Pierre Paulieff is using the word hope, rekindle hope, renew hope. And I don't know,

00:35:43.240 I don't think Pierre Paulieff is going to be quite as easy to demonize as conservative leaders in the

00:35:50.420 past, especially given the fact that there are some problems in Canada. And Trudeau can't really

00:35:55.220 say, I will give you hope that we can solve these problems if he doesn't want to acknowledge

00:36:00.140 that the problems are here at all. And Trudeau is still pretending that everything's fine and

00:36:04.820 the government media is going along with him on that. But I don't know, I just don't know if

00:36:10.200 they're old messages, you're racist, you're sexist, you're divisive, you're Trump of the North.

00:36:14.340 I just don't know if that's going to work. I think that that doesn't work when you're 0.62

00:36:18.900 teetering on the edge of a recession and no one young can afford to buy a house.

00:36:25.560 Yeah, it's kind of like the hierarchy of needs, right? I mean, in the 2015 election,

00:36:29.460 the country had been doing pretty well. The budget was balanced, the economy, it slowed a little bit,

00:36:33.420 but it wasn't doing too badly. The country had recovered well from the global financial crisis.

00:36:38.780 So ironically, even though the Conservatives were in power, it was easy for a lot of Canadians to

00:36:42.140 think, well, I mean, things are pretty good. There's no real big threats ahead. So let's take

00:36:45.480 a chance on this hopeful Trudeau guy who's going to legalize marijuana. Seems pretty positive. He's

00:36:49.820 saying he's only going to run a few small deficits. So we should be pretty fiscally responsible,

00:36:54.100 whoever gets elected. You know, you can't say the same thing now. You can't say that there are no

00:36:57.920 threats in the world. You can't say the economy is doing well. So I think people start to look for

00:37:01.900 more serious leadership and look for somebody who's actually offering a real change. And so

00:37:05.540 the Liberals can't run on change. They have to run on the status quo, but the status quo is not

00:37:09.760 good for people. So it's really going to be a lot of fear mongering from them. Their only real hope

00:37:14.240 now is to just attack Paley of so much that people get scared of him. That's obviously what they're

00:37:18.500 going to try doing. But again, you know, when people are feeling that they can't pay the bills,

00:37:23.360 they can't afford food, things are getting worse and worse for them economically,

00:37:26.800 you know, they're not going to just be swayed by someone saying, oh, this person seems a little

00:37:29.840 impolite or this person seems like, you know, they've said a bunch of terrible things. People

00:37:33.340 are just not going to put up with that. And people are also going to look at Polyev and his family

00:37:37.200 and think, hmm, this doesn't really seem much like a white supremacist to me. So I think that rhetoric

00:37:41.760 is going to be pretty tough for them to push. Yeah, I think you're right. Here's a clip of Trudeau

00:37:45.400 himself today. And he looks very serious. I mean, he's dressed sharp. Obviously, he's been clean

00:37:51.860 shaven for a little while now. But he looks like, I'm not going to say he looks worried,

00:37:56.080 but he looks like he knows he has a serious campaign on his hand. It's not going to be a

00:38:00.600 slam dunk. Here's Trudeau. Now is not the time for politicians to exploit fears and to pit people

00:38:09.400 one against the other. As you all know, the Conservative Party picked a new leader over the

00:38:17.240 weekend. I want to congratulate Mr. Polyev for becoming the leader of his majesty's loyal opposition.

00:38:26.860 We've been making every effort to work with all parliamentarians, and we will continue to do so.

00:38:33.620 But this doesn't mean that we're not going to be calling out highly questionable, reckless

00:38:40.380 economic ideas. What Canadians need is responsible leadership. Buzzwords, dog whistles, and careless

00:38:51.420 attacks don't add up to a plan for Canadians. Attacking the institutions that make our society 0.57

00:39:00.040 fair, safe, and free is not responsible leadership. Telling people they can opt out of inflation by

00:39:11.300 investing their savings in volatile cryptocurrencies is not responsible leadership. By the way, anyone who

00:39:20.260 followed that advice would have seen their life savings destroyed. Fighting against vaccines that

00:39:27.940 saved millions of lives? That's not responsible leadership. Opposing the support and investments that have

00:39:39.220 helped save jobs, businesses, and families during the pandemic? That's not responsible leadership.

00:39:47.720 Well, you can see that was much more scripted than Melanie Jolie's rehash of, I guess, I guess it was the only

00:39:54.920 thing that came to mind, hope and hard work. You know, she's been repeating that mantra since 2015. So it's no surprise.

00:40:00.980 This was obviously carefully scripted. And, you know, it's you can see the argument. You can see the ads right now.

00:40:08.180 Pierre Poliev said we should invest in Bitcoin. If you did that, you would have like like they're they're picking

00:40:13.460 things, you know, not responsible leadership. He's reading it in that dramatic actor voice of his. There's a lot of gaslighting

00:40:20.560 in there, though, Spencer. I mean, when he says, hey, we can't exploit fears to pit people against each other.

00:40:26.200 Aren't you the prime minister who said there's no room for vaccinated people, unvaccinated people in our country? 0.99

00:40:32.200 And should we even tolerate those people? And you're not allowed on a train. You can't sit next to me because you've got

00:40:37.440 cooties like it's a it's a bit of chutzpah for this guy to say, don't exploit fears and pit people against each other.

00:40:43.840 But he thinks that people will forget. He thinks people will forget. Maybe he's right. 0.97

00:40:48.740 Yeah, I think that's the confidence of somebody who knows that he's managed to get much of the establishment media to be co-opted by

00:40:55.040 government funding and dependence on the state. And he also knows that for a long time, a lot of media institutions have

00:41:00.220 increasingly been, you could say, infiltrated or whatever you want to call it by radical far left activists.

00:41:06.040 So he knows that much of the current media structure is on his side. And he also knows that he's currently using

00:41:11.220 government power with legislation like Bill C-11 to try to shut down independent media, to narrow the balance of

00:41:18.640 communication in the country, to control social media, control what people can say.

00:41:22.740 So I think that's why he he feels that he can get away with so much of the gaslighting and the

00:41:27.680 dishonest rhetoric. He thinks that he's got a big structure there to support him. And it's true,

00:41:32.040 he does. So he he will, you know, feel he can get away with it. But the other problem is that if for him

00:41:37.000 is if you look at the results of the conservative leadership race, not just Paulie Evans' victory,

00:41:41.480 but how many memberships, how much money he raised, how much bigger the conservative party is now

00:41:45.860 than it was before the leadership race, it tells you there's a real groundswell of public opinion

00:41:50.600 and energy that is opposing him. And that's, you know, he took advantage of that in 2015,

00:41:55.060 when people were tired of their previous government. And now he's seeing that same dynamic that's now

00:41:59.980 working against him. So, you know, he's he's obviously going to run a negative campaign.

00:42:03.860 I think it's going to be the most negative campaign we've seen in Canadian politics,

00:42:07.340 you know, possibly in the history of the country. You know, look at how angry people are already.

00:42:11.540 The liberals are going to try to make people more angry to try to hold on to power. So that's the

00:42:15.900 direction he's going to go in. I think Canadians are well aware of that. And they can they can say

00:42:20.840 all they want about being about hope and hard work. But the next campaign is going to look quite

00:42:24.720 a lot different than that. You know, I'm thinking about that cryptocurrency thing. I mean,

00:42:28.380 cryptocurrencies, they go up, they go down. I don't think I don't think Pierre Paliyev was giving

00:42:34.980 personal financial advice to anybody. He was talking about cryptocurrencies as a possible

00:42:40.640 new way of doing commerce, a new industry. And I think he was talking about it as an alternative to

00:42:47.980 government controlled currency that can be inflated by by the government. That the fact that

00:42:53.960 cryptocurrencies have dipped down is, you know, bad for those who have invested in them, I suppose.

00:42:59.560 But but it's if that if that's the thing they're that they're hanging on to, there's I mean,

00:43:06.680 that's a comment. That's a that's a niche issue. That's a curiosity. It's not a central issue.

00:43:14.080 It was always a throwaway line. And it was his way of sort of Paliyev's way of being sort of new and

00:43:18.220 modern compared to Trudeau. And it was an answer to the Bank of Canada. But if that that was the most

00:43:24.420 interesting and the most colorful criticism that Trudeau had of him. And I think that says something.

00:43:31.460 I think that says they don't have like they didn't call him racist there. They didn't call him sexist.

00:43:38.120 They didn't call him homophobic. They didn't use the they didn't talk about abortion. Maybe those 0.93

00:43:43.480 they're saving those things for later. But it it feels like they're really stretching if they're

00:43:48.700 saying, you know, he expressed interest in cryptocurrencies. And boy, I hope he didn't invest

00:43:53.720 if that's what they got on the guy. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure their war room is digging up

00:43:59.720 everything terrible they can on Pierre Paliyev. But the first draft doesn't look as scary as maybe

00:44:06.920 it ought to. What do you think? Yeah, it's interesting to look at the parallels between

00:44:10.820 different political parties and campaigns, even when they're, you know, on different sides of

00:44:14.520 the political spectrum. But to look at the broader situation they're in. And, you know, there are,

00:44:18.740 you know, some of the when you see, you know, kind of, as you say, the petty and kind of nitpicking

00:44:23.080 attacks on Paliyev. It does remind you a bit of how the conservatives were trying to attack

00:44:27.960 Justin Trudeau in 2015. You know, when a government is kind of out of energy, when people are looking

00:44:32.420 for a change, you do see kind of the petty old, you know, you know, nice hair, though, right? I mean,

00:44:36.940 okay, that didn't really work out too well for them. So when you see that they have to find very

00:44:41.180 kind of niche and obscure things to go after somebody for, it starts to tell you that they

00:44:45.740 know they're in trouble. And I think, you know, the thing we're also not talking about, too, is,

00:44:49.560 you know, where's the NDP in all this, right? I mean, they're the supposedly working class 1.00

00:44:52.780 party, and they're just, you know, Paliyev is just eating their lunch right now. And so it's very

00:44:56.900 interesting to see what the dynamic there will be, because Trudeau is, at some point,

00:45:00.660 the liberals will inevitably start to say to NDP voters, oh, Paliyev is so dangerous, you can't,

00:45:05.460 you can't risk voting NDP. And what does Jake Mead Singh do in that situation? Does he just say,

00:45:10.260 oh, the liberals are just as bad? He's been unwilling to really say that. Can he even say

00:45:14.220 the liberals are bad? He's been propping them up all this time. So I think, you know, if you're the

00:45:18.080 NDP, you're looking at what's going to happen after this next election? Do we really see the

00:45:21.860 country become fully polarized between the left and the right, where you have the conservatives

00:45:26.020 taking a principled conservative stand and the liberals basically wiping out the NDP and trying

00:45:30.780 to get all the NDP voters to vote for them? I think it's going to be a very interesting dynamic

00:45:35.340 to look at going forward. And I think, you know, the conservatives will have to look at,

00:45:38.880 you know, how do they appeal to working class voters? How do they get NDP votes? Because I think

00:45:42.780 those votes are going to be very much up for grabs. I think you're right, Jagmeet Singh, very weak. And

00:45:47.200 the speech by Paliyev really did feel working class in terms of ordinary issues for ordinary people.

00:45:54.360 Um, and Jagmeet Singh is nowhere. Let me play one final clip. Uh, this was Paliyev, um, calling out

00:46:01.820 Trudeau at, uh, this was an excerpt from his speech to caucus as leader. Here, take a look.

00:46:08.000 And so I'm issuing a challenge to Justin Trudeau today. If you really understand the suffering of

00:46:15.220 Canadians, Mr. Prime Minister, if you understand that people can't gas their cars, feed their families,

00:46:20.980 or afford homes for themselves, if you really care, commit today that there will be no new tax

00:46:29.980 increases on workers and on seniors. None.

00:46:36.260 You know, look at that language, the suffering of Canadians. If you care, hang on, care, that's 0.97

00:46:43.920 the liberal grant. Suffering, that's the NDP grant, grant. Workers and seniors. So he's taking that, 0.81

00:46:51.840 that working class language, and I think he can do so legitimately. Uh, and I think it works. You know,

00:46:59.120 one of the most interesting things that I've learned during this campaign, and I've known

00:47:02.440 Pierre Paliyev casually for, for decades, actually, I did not know he was adopted. And he told that

00:47:10.200 story of how he was born to his teenage mom and given up for adoption and parents raised him. And

00:47:16.900 like, it was just a whole interesting story. And I'm really glad he tells that story because it

00:47:22.960 changed. Cause you, you can't say, Oh, you're just a, a rich fat cat conservative, you know,

00:47:28.480 a billionaire Trumpist. No, this is a guy who started, um, you know, life in an uphill battle.

00:47:34.940 And if he's talking about suffering in Canadians, and if you care,

00:47:38.940 what an interesting difference to Mr. Elite spoon born with a silver spoon in his mouth,

00:47:44.220 jetting around to, to billionaire Island in, in the Bahamas for vacations. Like

00:47:50.200 Justin Trudeau never pretends that he's anything less than a fancy trust fund kit. It's part of his

00:47:56.340 mystique and glamour. And Trudeau's taking that head on and saying, yeah, you're a fancy pants

00:48:01.320 who doesn't know what it's like to have to pay for a house or pay for gas. I think it's an

00:48:05.920 interesting challenge and I think it can actually work. Yeah. I think what's interesting about what

00:48:10.540 Paliyev is doing is that, you know, there've been two kinds of schools of thought on what does it

00:48:14.240 mean for conservatives to reach out to new voters? And so previously, especially under Aaron O'Toole,

00:48:20.300 the thinking clearly was, well, reaching out means that you just basically give up on all

00:48:25.400 conservative ideas and you just kind of try to be, uh, just a little tiny bit to the right of

00:48:30.320 the liberals and, and hope that's enough. And that's what reaching out is. Whereas I think

00:48:34.020 what Paliyev is doing is he's reaching out in a way that is still consistent with conservative

00:48:37.460 principles, but he's explaining them in a, in a different way and explaining them in a new

00:48:41.380 context. And you, you look at how he's trying to appeal to young people, for instance, and he's

00:48:45.500 not saying, oh, well, you know, young people are all socialists, so we're just going to offer

00:48:48.500 them more government money. He's saying, no, look, this is why, you know, sound money is

00:48:52.120 important. This is why fiscal responsibility is important. This is how, what the Bank of

00:48:55.720 Canada has done and what Justin Trudeau has done has made it impossible for so many young

00:48:59.200 people to afford to get a house. This is why rent is going up. This is why everything's

00:49:02.600 more expensive and why a whole generation is being held back. So he's taking principled

00:49:07.460 conservative ideas, but using them in any way and appealing to a new group of voters.

00:49:11.680 And I think that's the much more effective strategy because, you know, it's one thing to

00:49:15.180 just say you're going to win votes, but you also have to win people over to your vision

00:49:18.200 and your ideology and your viewpoint of the world. And the conservatives have for a long

00:49:21.700 time failed to do that because they basically adopt the liberal worldview and then hope that,

00:49:26.200 oh, if we do that, people won't be too scared of us. You know, you actually have to persuade

00:49:29.760 people and you actually have to convince people. And Paul Yev is certainly showing that he understands

00:49:33.560 that. And I think so far that he's capable of doing that.

00:49:36.520 Yeah, it's going to be very interesting. Well, Spencer Fernando, great to catch up with you.

00:49:39.900 How's the website spencerfernando.com coming along? You've got that in-depth email subscription.

00:49:45.940 Give our viewers a quick update on how you're doing with that.

00:49:49.380 Yeah, it's going well. I've started a new, I'm still doing all the free content on my website,

00:49:52.900 so I'm not going to stop doing that, but also a more in-depth look at, you know,

00:49:56.780 Canadian politics just this weekend. It's on patron and maybe you can include a link.

00:50:01.180 It's certainly, there's a link on my website and it's about 4,500 words going mostly into the

00:50:07.220 conservative leadership race. You know, some of the things we've talked about today,

00:50:10.360 how it affects different groups, how it affects the establishment media, how it affects the liberal

00:50:13.980 NDP Socialist Coalition, what it means for the country and democracy going forward. So

00:50:18.140 if you like the writing on my website and you want, you know, even more of it and more in-depth

00:50:21.880 content, then I think you'll enjoy it.

00:50:24.020 Right on. Well, you're doing the hard work. I mean, that's a serious think piece, as they're

00:50:28.900 called. That's a serious, well, listen, congratulations on that. We need more independent

00:50:33.680 journalism like yours. So I salute you for that and you're a hardworking guy and you're always fast

00:50:38.580 on the news. I'm impressed with how quick you are on the breaking news. Thanks for taking the time

00:50:42.820 with us today and keep up the fight. No problem. Take care. All right. There you have it. Spencer

00:50:47.020 Fernando from the website, spencerfernando.com. Stay with us. Your Letters to Me are next.

00:50:52.040 Hey, welcome back. Your Letters to Me, 7 Emanuel 7, talking about my chit-chat with Conrad Black,

00:51:09.720 says, you guys have a great chemistry in this interview. I hope Conrad becomes a regular. God

00:51:14.540 bless. Well, he's so smart and he's lived such an interesting life in high circles of society.

00:51:20.920 Remember, he was a proprietor of the Daily Telegraph, really one of the most prestigious

00:51:25.320 newspapers in the UK and indeed the world. He ran in those circles. He was a member of the House

00:51:29.840 of Lords. So he met the Queen. He met Charles. So he had personal anecdotes. You heard he didn't

00:51:36.240 want to share too many of the private ones, but I liked what I heard. It was very interesting. I

00:51:40.040 thought we were one degree of separation away from the Queen. A. Nickerson says, most would argue

00:51:46.680 that King Charles is on board with Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum with investments.

00:51:50.920 I don't know about investments, but here's a photo of the now King Charles with Klaus Schwab

00:51:58.360 and actually Václav Havel. It doesn't surprise me that a man who really didn't do a lot for

00:52:05.040 73 years, Prince Charles, who was in that high society of wealth, power and prestige, met

00:52:12.740 up at the World Economic Forum, which is really about oligarchs and power and prestige. It doesn't

00:52:17.880 surprise me. And I don't like anyone who hangs out with the World Economic Forum. At least my

00:52:25.320 spider senses start tingling. I can forgive a guy attending an event or posing for a photograph.

00:52:33.260 That's not what scares me. What scares me more about the World Economic Forum, not if someone

00:52:37.720 went there or listened to things or said something. It's, are you part of their agenda? And do you

00:52:46.140 believe that they should be a source of power, even though they have no democratic legitimacy? Do you

00:52:50.780 believe that they should inject themselves, as Klaus Schwab would say, into the cabinets of the world?

00:52:59.020 You know, I don't think there's anything wrong with actually listening or meeting with anybody,

00:53:03.660 as long as you remain yourself as opposed to co-opted. So I'm worried about King Charles,

00:53:09.260 but I'm actually more worried about all his green extremism, his ideology that, you know, 1.00

00:53:16.300 we're all going to die if we don't tackle global warming while he gets on his private jets. I hope

00:53:20.380 he abandons that and leaves it behind and focuses on the uncontroversial duties he has rather than

00:53:28.060 his pet issues. We'll see.

00:53:29.580 Get crack and says, wasn't this guy knighted or given a title of some sort? Wouldn't that make

00:53:35.980 him part of the club? You're talking about Conrad Black. And yes, he, I mean, he's interesting in

00:53:41.100 that he had one foot in the club, but one foot in conservative politics and one foot in the insurgent

00:53:47.260 national post newspaper. And of course he is affiliated with the democracy fund as the

00:53:53.420 civil liberties historian. Yeah, he's, he's a complicated fellow with a lot of irons in the fire. I'm

00:53:59.100 talking about Conrad Black. Um, I like him. I find him interesting. And I mean,

00:54:03.580 I know that he personally knew Klaus Schwab as well. Um, so, um, you know, my, my focus with

00:54:11.420 Conrad Black is usually on matters of civil liberties in Canadian politics, but he does have

00:54:17.020 other interesting and sometimes controversial stories as well. That's our show for today.

00:54:24.540 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home, good night.

00:54:29.100 And keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - September 13, 2022

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Pierre Poilievre wins the Conservative Party leadership race, and the battle is on

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