Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ PM Carney gives fake praise to press freedom

00:00:00.260 Hello, my friends. It was World Press Freedom Day on the weekend. Can you feel it? Can you feel the freedom?

00:00:07.080 I'll take you through Canada's ranking and what Mark Carney had to say about it.

00:00:11.640 And then later on, we'll get an update from the United Kingdom where the Reform UK managed to win a bunch of local elections.

00:00:19.540 How did they win but Australia and Canada's Conservatives lost? We'll talk to him about that.

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00:00:42.700 Tonight, there's nothing more fake than World Press Freedom Day in Canada.

00:00:47.520 It's May 5th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:49.860 You're fighting for freedom!

00:00:53.040 Shame on you, you sensorism bug!

00:01:00.000 Over the weekend was World Press Freedom Day, which I checked is the kind of thing you would read about in the book 1984.

00:01:11.860 As a celebration of censorship, they would call it World Press Freedom Day because it wasn't.

00:01:17.880 It's the kind of thing that's only observed by regimes that do not actually have World Press Freedom Day every day.

00:01:25.420 It's like that phrase, free speech zone, that you sometimes hear police or politicians talk about.

00:01:31.520 Yeah, no, Canada is my free speech zone.

00:01:35.380 There's a lot of lying about this sort of thing.

00:01:37.580 How many politicians and journalists, for example, said that the trucker convoy was illegal?

00:01:44.020 So many.

00:01:44.660 Too many to count, including Trudeau himself.

00:01:46.100 But it was never found to be illegal by any court of law.

00:01:49.780 The closest was one judge who ordered the truckers not to honk their horns, but that in no way rendered their being there illegal.

00:01:58.060 The Emergencies Act itself operates underneath the Charter of Rights.

00:02:02.340 It doesn't replace it or supersede it.

00:02:04.380 There's no emergency exemption to the charter.

00:02:07.580 And even then, the CSIS Act, which explains a lot of terms in the Emergencies Act, it covers a lot of what happens in an emergency.

00:02:16.540 They specifically exempt, quote, lawful advocacy, protest, or dissent, even under martial law.

00:02:26.000 And as you know, a judge later found out that the invocation of the Emergencies Act was illegal and unconstitutional,

00:02:31.940 even though Mark Carney wrote in the Globe and Mail that he wanted it to go harder.

00:02:35.340 I need a long digression there, but my point is, freedom is actually our default state, or it's supposed to be.

00:02:43.300 It's our natural state.

00:02:44.400 And even our laws reflect that.

00:02:46.140 In the Soviet Union, a good rule of thumb was that if it wasn't specifically permitted, it was banned.

00:02:50.980 But in Canada, and even more in the U.S., if something isn't specifically banned, it's permitted.

00:02:56.740 It's a very different mindset.

00:02:59.080 That's especially true when it comes to free speech and the U.S. First Amendment, of which I am so jealous.

00:03:03.940 I'm pretty sure I've told you this story before about the famous U.S. case, Cohen v. California.

00:03:09.140 It was in 1968.

00:03:10.940 Vietnam War.

00:03:12.380 A 19-year-old kid named Paul Cohen wore a T-shirt into a court saying, F-U-C-K, the draft.

00:03:19.440 And he was prosecuted, and it went all the way up to the Supreme Court of the United States.

00:03:23.380 And they ruled in a split decision that it was protected speech.

00:03:26.220 And that the profanity was, in fact, an important part of the message.

00:03:30.520 If he had to say, excuse me, I politely disagree with the draft, that would not have been his honest message, would it?

00:03:37.800 Anyways, of course, it's vulgar.

00:03:39.760 But as the court wrote, quote,

00:03:41.300 I think that was probably the high watermark for free speech in America.

00:03:57.940 I think the Supreme Court case itself was in 1971.

00:04:01.660 So that's the United States.

00:04:02.980 Canada does not have as much free speech, and we're losing more of it every day.

00:04:06.780 We saw a lot of that during COVID, didn't we?

00:04:09.300 But it's actually getting worse.

00:04:11.140 Here is the Reporters Without Borders annual ranking.

00:04:15.040 You can see that even according to this left-wing group, Canada has fallen from 14th place to 21st place in just one year.

00:04:22.860 That's world rankings.

00:04:24.180 But I read their report, and it's simply inaccurate.

00:04:27.720 I mean, look at the bottom of that page.

00:04:29.140 They say that zero reporters have been arrested in Canada.

00:04:33.280 But we both know that's not true.

00:04:35.540 My friend David Menzies alone has been arrested five times in the last year.

00:04:40.260 And I myself was arrested in January.

00:04:43.040 And over the course of time, our people have been assaulted by police and others.

00:04:47.260 So it's much worse than Reporters Without Borders says.

00:04:51.640 About a year ago, I asked Mark Carney about David Menzies being arrested by Chrystia Freeland.

00:04:56.080 I don't know if you remember.

00:04:56.840 This was at the World Economic Forum.

00:04:59.180 Here's what he told me.

00:05:00.420 It was just over a year ago.

00:05:01.820 I'm enjoying it, and I'm doing my best to be fair and friendly.

00:05:05.040 If this was Canada, you could have him arrested.

00:05:09.700 Did you see that?

00:05:10.560 Your rival, Chrystia Freeland, had one of our reporters arrested.

00:05:13.760 I don't think she did.

00:05:14.560 She didn't say a word against it.

00:05:16.220 On the incident, as you guys know very well, Canada is a rule of law country.

00:05:28.160 Canada is a democracy.

00:05:30.880 Operational decisions about law enforcement are taken by the police of jurisdiction.

00:05:36.560 Quite appropriately, elected officials have no role in the taking of those decisions, and that's why I don't have any further comment.

00:05:47.680 It was the wrong thing.

00:05:48.920 It was absolutely the wrong thing.

00:05:50.780 Thank you for saying that.

00:05:52.700 Look, freedom of the press.

00:05:54.120 Look, I've been a public figure in Canada.

00:05:59.400 I've been a public figure in the UK.

00:06:00.740 I know you've got to answer tough questions, and you guys, you know, you ask tough questions, and that's fair.

00:06:05.100 Well, I want to thank you for saying that, because I have to say, Chrystia Freeland has not yet said anything in the vein that you have.

00:06:11.980 She's been happy to let the cops do her work for her. 0.99

00:06:14.400 And if she disagrees with the cops, she hasn't said so.

00:06:17.140 Well, I said what I said, so.

00:06:21.280 But look, the questions you were asking earlier about energy, and I'm going to have to.

00:06:25.540 Thanks for your time.

00:06:26.440 I really appreciate it.

00:06:27.480 And I appreciate it.

00:06:29.120 Good luck.

00:06:29.860 Thanks.

00:06:30.100 Come on.

00:06:30.700 I feel like until next thing.

00:06:33.940 No, no, no.

00:06:35.160 Take care.

00:06:35.580 Thank you.

00:06:36.220 Yeah, that's what he said then.

00:06:37.400 But Mark Carney is prime minister now, and he's just the same.

00:06:41.300 He has police push reporters away.

00:06:43.100 He threatens us with the rest.

00:06:44.260 And worse, he threatens entire media platforms.

00:06:47.340 Listen to this.

00:06:49.200 Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and hate in all its forms.

00:06:58.840 And they're being used by criminals to harm our children.

00:07:05.960 My government will act.

00:07:07.340 And today, we're announcing our plan to fight crime, to protect Canadians, and to build communities that are safe, secure, and strong.

00:07:16.480 A plan to make Canada secure, to make Canada strong.

00:07:20.620 Really, so racism, for example, won't be allowed online.

00:07:26.160 He doesn't define what racism is.

00:07:28.400 It's sort of tough these days.

00:07:29.720 There's a lot of anti-white racism.

00:07:31.740 It's official government policy.

00:07:32.940 It's called DEI.

00:07:34.540 What he really means is he doesn't like Elon Musk's Twitter, even though every other platform is just as bad or worse, including the Chinese Communist Party TikTok, which is avowedly pro-Hamas. 0.76

00:07:45.240 But really, racism is a feeling.

00:07:48.920 It's an accusation.

00:07:51.300 Racist words are morally wrong, but they're not illegal for a whole bunch of obvious reasons.

00:07:56.860 Since when does a prime minister simply get to ban words he doesn't like?

00:08:02.600 Well, just like he gets to arrest journalists he doesn't like.

00:08:06.060 There has never been more hate and racism on our city streets, as there has been since October 7th.

00:08:11.720 Weekly Hamas hate marches in Toronto alone.

00:08:14.380 And the police couldn't care less.

00:08:15.940 In fact, they're arresting reporters who dare to cover it, arresting peaceful counter-protesters.

00:08:21.720 The police don't mind hatred and racism.

00:08:24.380 They just want to use hate to demonize and denormalize their political opponents.

00:08:29.400 Get a load of this official statement from Carney on World Press Freedom Day.

00:08:34.720 So this was written, so they put a lot of thought in this.

00:08:37.500 In this time of crisis, what crisis?

00:08:40.140 Politicians love crises because it lets them do things in an emergency, don't they?

00:08:46.600 We must protect what it means to be Canadian.

00:08:49.060 A strong, independent, and free press both defines and defends our values.

00:08:53.700 My new government will protect reliable Canadian public forums so we can tell our own stories in our own languages.

00:09:00.980 Central to this work is strengthening our public broadcaster, CBC Radio Canada, which has stitched this nation together.

00:09:07.120 But really? Did it do that?

00:09:09.920 Reporting from Cornerbrook to Petra-Rivière, Whitehorse to Comox, bringing Canadians together at critical moments.

00:09:16.320 Does it really do that?

00:09:17.900 Fewer than 1% of the Canadians watch CBC News, by the way.

00:09:21.560 My new government will also protect and fund more local news, including those with indigenous perspectives.

00:09:26.360 In a sea of foreign media and disinformation, we need Canadian voices more than ever.

00:09:32.000 Unless they criticize him, in which case he wants to censor them.

00:09:36.200 He says he wants an independent free press, but then he immediately said he's going to slather more money on the CBC.

00:09:42.380 Which is it?

00:09:43.420 Canada's identity and institutions are under attack by foreign interference. 0.59

00:09:50.500 And instead of defending them, Pierre Polyev is following President Trump's lead and taking aim at our institutions like CBC Radio Canada.

00:10:02.060 Pierre Polyev pretends that you can keep one but not the other.

00:10:06.840 But he's not Solomon.

00:10:08.960 You can't split this baby.

00:10:10.720 His attack on CBC is an attack directly on Radio Canada.

00:10:16.120 And it is an attack on our Canadian identity.

00:10:20.580 If elected, my government will take action to enshrine and protect and strengthen CBC Radio Canada for generations to come.

00:10:30.920 We will modernize the mandate of our public broadcaster.

00:10:33.800 We will give it the resources it needs to fulfill its renewed mission and ensure that its future is guided by all Canadians and not subject to the whims of a small group of people led by ideology.

00:10:46.860 When it comes to this most important of Canadian institutions, all Canadians should have their say, not just a small group.

00:10:55.780 We will not only increase CBC Radio Canada's funding by $150 million, but we will also make this funding statutory, meaning that Parliament as a whole will need to approve any future changes to its funding, not just the Cabinet.

00:11:11.840 By strengthening our public broadcaster, we're protecting our identity and our culture and helping it to shine.

00:11:19.420 And I think the scariest part there was the word reliable.

00:11:23.640 What does it mean to be a reliable journalist?

00:11:26.780 Trudeau used a similar word.

00:11:28.560 He said trustworthy.

00:11:30.600 He said only trustworthy journalists would get government money.

00:11:35.680 Now, obviously, we want our news at Rebel News to be reliable and trustworthy.

00:11:39.960 And I think every Canadian who reads the news, who watches the news, wants their news choices to be reliable and trustworthy.

00:11:46.860 But what we mean by that is that we can rely on them.

00:11:49.940 We can be our own judge of that.

00:11:52.340 We want to trust the news.

00:11:53.820 We don't want the government to vet them for us.

00:11:55.940 We don't want the government to trust the news.

00:11:58.280 We want the government to be a little bit afraid of the news all the time.

00:12:01.640 When Trudeau and Carney say they want reliable media, what they mean is they want press secretaries.

00:12:05.800 They want stenographers.

00:12:06.800 They want people who are repeaters of their message.

00:12:09.260 When they say trustworthy, they mean they don't want reporters jaunting off to the Isle of Man to dig up Mark Carney's shell companies hiding from taxes.

00:12:17.520 They mean that Carney can trust the journalist to say nice things about him and mean things about his opponents.

00:12:24.260 Do you remember when Rebel News and some other citizen journalists asked some questions in the political debates?

00:12:29.640 Remember what the CBC said?

00:12:31.360 That we were asking questions that were off topic or that were on different subjects and they didn't like that one bit?

00:12:37.960 Remember that CBC panel?

00:12:40.520 Just watching it, having watched the debate, David, the debate was one type of conversation.

00:12:47.440 This feels very different.

00:12:49.460 I think the debate commission is going to need to be accountable for what's kind of happening here.

00:12:54.940 They moved the time of the debate the day before.

00:12:57.400 They kicked the greens out the morning of.

00:12:59.520 And they've opened up the scrums and the press access to a bunch of groups who sometimes are registered charities or have been defined by their owner as not actually a journalistic organization or have been ruled by the federal court to not be a journalistic organization.

00:13:12.740 And in an election like this one with very, very substantive debate on very substantive issues, moderated very well and executed very well by all the leaders.

00:13:21.480 This is where this is going.

00:13:22.720 So, look, the debate commission was set up to make this stuff run in a professional, coherent way, shifting the time for a hockey game, kicking out the greens about a problem that has been known about for a week and now this.

00:13:35.240 I think I would like an explanation as a journalist.

00:13:39.320 I think a lot of people at home would like an explanation as to why it happens this way.

00:13:42.500 I mean, who knows what's going to happen with the English debate tomorrow?

00:13:45.420 But we've seen this, that they are talking about.

00:13:48.000 There was immigration questions in the debate, a consensus on, you know, living up the safe third country agreement.

00:13:53.520 Can you really do that with an administration like the Trump administration right now where you send people back when the foundational principle of the safe third country agreement is people you deny access at your border

00:14:03.660 are going to get due process and legal, proper legal treatment in the country you're sending them back to when people are just being snatched and sent to,

00:14:12.540 they sent an American citizen to Central America and they're refusing to bring back.

00:14:15.900 So there are substantive follow-ups on these things for these leaders.

00:14:20.440 They only get 10 minutes and it's being monopolized by people who are asking on issues that are not central to the campaign and certainly were not central to this debate.

00:14:29.760 And we have about 30 seconds left.

00:14:31.500 Anything of substance that you heard there, policy-wise, or that you've heard tonight that you hadn't heard before?

00:14:37.080 Not in any of these scrums because they are being taken over by other agendas, right?

00:14:42.700 And not, I think, necessarily helping a broad swath of voters.

00:14:47.100 Some people maybe do want to hear some of these questions and answers, but broadly I don't think they represent sort of what the ballot box question is about.

00:14:54.660 We can talk more.

00:14:55.160 Can you imagine that, other journalists, government journalists, saying that our questions were not approved by them.

00:15:03.860 We shouldn't ask them because they were not the right topics.

00:15:08.740 That's what Mark Carney means by World Press Freedom Day.

00:15:11.160 He means the opposite, just like Orwell did.

00:15:16.580 Stay with us for more.

00:15:17.600 The last seven days there have been national elections in Canada, in Australia, and in the United Kingdom.

00:15:34.680 Isn't that interesting?

00:15:35.700 The Anglosphere goes to vote.

00:15:38.140 And in two out of those three countries, the conservative-leaning parties were given a drubbing.

00:15:44.300 Yes, I know there's reasons to find a silver lining in Canada's result, but still, six months ago, the conservatives had a 20-point lead.

00:15:53.320 And why did Nigel Farage and his Reform UK party manage to punch through, not just in the by-election that I attended in Runcorn and in the north of England, but also in hundreds of local council seats?

00:16:10.560 The Reform party swept the table, dispatching both the incumbent Labour government and the Conservative Party, the traditional alternative to Labour.

00:16:20.040 How did that happen in the UK, but not in Canada or Australia?

00:16:25.440 How did Nigel Farage, who warmly embraced Donald Trump, in fact, you may recall Nigel Farage actually introduced Trump at rallies in the United States.

00:16:35.380 He couldn't have been closer to him.

00:16:37.480 How did he survive any backlash, whereas in Australia and Canada, the Conservative Party seemed to be set back by their affiliations or perceived affiliations with Trump?

00:16:48.140 And joining us now to talk about the UK results is our friend David Atherton, a columnist, activist, and a deep thinker.

00:16:55.860 David, how are you doing?

00:16:57.500 Well, you're fine too, Kyandre. I'm very well. What about yourself?

00:17:01.560 Well, I'm okay. I had the pleasure of being up in Runcorn and Fradsham and all the interesting places.

00:17:07.880 They're classic UK names. It's a lovely part of the world.

00:17:12.840 53% Labour in the last election, like an enormous vote for Labour.

00:17:21.120 And now the Reform UK wins it just by six votes, mind you.

00:17:26.880 But a win is a win.

00:17:29.220 I was focused on that by-election, but I think the bigger story was hundreds of town council seats across the country went for Reform UK.

00:17:38.500 How did he do it? How did Nigel Farage do it? He didn't have the media on side.

00:17:43.840 He didn't have the... I don't think he had the grassroots door-knocking brigades that Labour had.

00:17:50.300 So how did Nigel Farage and his Reform UK win?

00:17:55.220 Right, okay. Well, we'll pick up the thread on that one.

00:17:58.200 Let me just make a theoretical comment, first of all.

00:18:02.060 Runcorn on the by-election. Runcorn is, depending on which, the way you work it out, is the 16th or 17th safest seat.

00:18:11.960 Currently, at the moment, Labour have got 400, a side-off of the 411 seats in the Parliament.

00:18:16.580 Theoretically, if that result was repeated nationwide, it would go down from 411 to 15.

00:18:22.780 They would only have 15 MPs ever elected.

00:18:26.420 But to answer directly your question on why Reform did so well, the Reform Party had a perfect storm of dissent.

00:18:39.740 Whenever the Conservative Party makes a comment on any Labour Party policy, the governmental policy,

00:18:48.120 it's simply a case of you had 14 years in government to fix these problems.

00:18:52.500 Whether it's immigration or whether it's the economy, the Conservative Party is not trusted.

00:18:59.600 It's thought to be, you know, I'm trying to think of the right word without swearing.

00:19:06.400 But it's full of themselves, shall we say, let's put it this way.

00:19:09.220 And no one believes the Conservative Party that they can't deliver, because they completely failed when they were in power.

00:19:16.180 And the Labour Party and Sir Keir Starmer is probably the most loathed, hated, disliked Prime Minister of all time.

00:19:25.300 You know, he just sits there telling bare-faced lies after bare-faced lies.

00:19:30.080 And whenever you see him on the TV, he never, ever answers the question.

00:19:34.400 You know, he just, just off-packs, bangs on about what he's got, what he hopes he's going to do,

00:19:39.500 and, you know, what he might try to do.

00:19:41.860 And believe you me, there is bitter resentment at the Labour Party.

00:19:47.480 For example, whether it's the grooming gangs, and whether it's the savage sentences that people got at the end of the South Pole riots.

00:19:58.900 You know, someone deleted it.

00:20:01.620 It wasn't a very, very good tweet, shall we say.

00:20:04.100 But they deleted it three or four, three to four hours after they wrote it.

00:20:08.100 And the lady, Lucy Connolly, was given 31 months in prison for a tweet that she deleted after four hours of the second thought.

00:20:16.120 That was interesting to me, because you had these people who were sentenced to two or almost three years in prison for a caustic tweet.

00:20:23.420 And whereas the local Labour MP in Runcorn, the reason there was a by-election,

00:20:28.740 because he was caught on tape beating the daylights out of a constituent.

00:20:32.160 He served just two days in prison before the judge commuted his sentence, really.

00:20:37.340 So two days...

00:20:37.920 Well, indeed, yeah.

00:20:38.880 ...for apparently the guy...

00:20:40.360 Go ahead.

00:20:41.440 Yeah, there's a guy called Ricky Jones, who at the time of the riots was seen apparently, allegedly, drawing his finger across his throat.

00:20:51.520 And, you know, a year later, he still hasn't gone to trial.

00:20:54.820 He's gone to the magistrate's court, but he still hasn't appeared in the Crown Court, you know, for, you know...

00:21:00.080 But has that...

00:21:01.000 I mean, a lot of people who are politically active or are very online follow that kind of thing.

00:21:07.440 But when I was in Runcorn, I was only there for a day or so.

00:21:10.960 Yeah.

00:21:11.740 I just went on the street.

00:21:12.980 I don't know if you saw it in my video.

00:21:14.060 I just went on the mainstream in Fraudsham, and I asked everyone who would talk to me,

00:21:18.060 what's important to you, what's the issue, who's going to win.

00:21:22.140 And whether it was reform or labor, everyone was talking about the illegal migrants.

00:21:29.340 In fact, my most interesting conversation was with a labor voter who said she voted labor, sort of out of tradition.

00:21:38.700 But then for the next five minutes, she was complaining about the problems of labor, including people getting in dinghies and sailing across from France.

00:21:47.880 So I think that...

00:21:49.700 I don't know.

00:21:51.140 I just think immigration is such a huge issue in the UK because it's shorthand for crime, high property prices, cultural quarrels in the street, 0.99

00:22:04.280 whether it's Hamas protesters or sectarian violence, but Hindu versus Sikhs.

00:22:09.680 So I think immigration, and every party has been so afraid to talk about it.

00:22:14.680 Frankly, Nigel Farage has been a little bit afraid to talk about it, too, but he's embraced it.

00:22:19.500 I mean, I looked at the campaign literature.

00:22:21.780 The number one point, he said, freeze immigration and stop the boats. 0.98

00:22:29.120 That's probably what 10 people, they used word for word what they said to me on the street in Fraudsham.

00:22:34.280 Sure, indeed, yeah.

00:22:35.300 You know, even the Green Party, the dripping wet Green Party, wants to see illegals deported and immigration stopped.

00:22:43.840 I should say green voters, I should say.

00:22:46.180 You know, it's 58%.

00:22:48.060 You know, when you've got sort of the middle class, you know, and also labor people, labor voters are very similar as well.

00:22:55.480 You know, most of the migrants after they've been processed to go to a hotel are given houses and property in labor areas. 0.55

00:23:07.560 They have to be part of the crime, the antisocial behavior, you know, having their daughters photographed just outside school,

00:23:15.360 and they're sexually harassed on the street as well.

00:23:17.780 What's your number?

00:23:18.960 You know, you're nice.

00:23:20.420 You know, can I touch you?

00:23:21.220 There's also been some empirical evidence that has come out based on police forces and local government data,

00:23:29.280 which confirms that migrants are disproportionately involved in crime and particularly sexual crime,

00:23:36.400 by a factor of 3.5 times more in one paper that was done by migration control.

00:23:42.400 So, you know, and people don't have to go too far from social media.

00:23:48.300 There's a photograph of a migrant, you know, those people got their sort of TikTok video out.

00:23:53.880 They show him with his camera in his hand, take a photograph of kids, and he's shooed away by adults.

00:23:59.160 You know, people know it is a national problem.

00:24:01.500 And where it also comes back to, old-age pensions used to get a £300, $400 annual allowance towards their heating bills,

00:24:14.000 and labor scrapped that.

00:24:15.840 You know, it was only £300.

00:24:17.860 Britain has the highest energy prices in the world, bar none.

00:24:22.720 I know the comparison is with America, is we pay four times per head for our electricity and gas, four times.

00:24:31.640 So if you've got a $100 a month bill in Canada or America, it will cost you $400 in Britain.

00:24:39.880 And the fact that migrants live in these literally four-star, they're very well-equipped, very well-appointed hotels,

00:24:46.720 and they get three meals a day, they get snacks, many work illegally as delivery-type drivers.

00:24:54.660 And someone, 500, there's a report that came out today, undercover investigation of The Telegraph,

00:24:59.640 these people earn £500 a week, you know, £2,000 a month, and they use that to pay off,

00:25:04.880 some of the money to pay off the people who traffic them over here.

00:25:08.420 You know, it's completely outrageous what's going on. 0.97

00:25:10.900 And we've got a weak, pathetic government, agitated by a woke civil service, 0.98

00:25:16.240 which is allowing this to happen all the time. 0.97

00:25:19.420 You know, I've been covering these phenomena for years in the UK,

00:25:22.620 and I found that people were no longer as shy about saying,

00:25:29.040 I'm against immigration, I'm for reform.

00:25:31.360 You open some window.

00:25:32.480 And maybe it's because I was in a different place.

00:25:36.480 I was in the north of England.

00:25:38.080 And maybe people were exasperated.

00:25:41.560 But I remember when I covered Nigel Farage's own win in Clacton on C last year,

00:25:48.360 a lot of people were sort of shy, and they didn't want to say, and they were very elusive.

00:25:53.420 You could tell what was on their mind, but they wouldn't say it.

00:25:56.520 Maybe it's just a different kind of people I was talking to,

00:25:58.880 but I think the whole calling people racist thing doesn't work quite as well.

00:26:03.960 When I was there, it was interesting.

00:26:05.600 There was a train that brought about, I don't know, 15 protesters from Manchester,

00:26:12.400 so they weren't even from the neighborhood.

00:26:14.340 And they were chanting, you know, I forget what their group was called,

00:26:20.700 something like Stand Against Racism.

00:26:22.700 Like, their whole theme was name callers.

00:26:25.080 That's the fault of us.

00:26:25.960 Like, if they didn't make the case for immigration, they didn't make the case for anything.

00:26:30.200 They just said, we are here to be the name callers, and we're going to call everyone we disagree with racist,

00:26:36.760 and that's all we're doing, and we have a chance.

00:26:40.540 That, I don't think that works anymore in the UK.

00:26:44.980 Well, you're right.

00:26:45.720 Two things, there was a rally in Birmingham to stop child abuse.

00:26:51.040 Antifa and the far left turned up, and they started shouting at the racists.

00:26:56.580 You know, sorry, how is child abuse associated with racism?

00:27:04.020 Of course not.

00:27:04.560 No, you know, the Overson window, what is allowable, and, you know, what you're allowed to say, you know,

00:27:09.800 in public, you know, during the discourse, and what you say across the dinner table,

00:27:13.580 has changed substantially.

00:27:16.380 Obviously, you call it the Overson window.

00:27:18.360 The Overson window has massively moved to the right.

00:27:21.500 And, you know, people have just run out of patience now,

00:27:24.700 completely run out of patience with the government, both the Labour and the Conservatives.

00:27:30.040 They've done nothing about immigration.

00:27:31.320 They've done nothing about fixing our problems.

00:27:35.480 You know, they even banned the French guy, Renaud,

00:27:41.160 who was the author of The Great Replacement.

00:27:45.460 The government has even banned him for coming into the country.

00:27:48.460 You know, the guy's French, you're going to say it out loud.

00:27:50.160 He's a scholar.

00:27:51.360 So, yeah, you know, a huge swathes of the population

00:27:56.240 that are still reticent about saying they vote reform

00:27:59.800 because they've been painted as racist and as a racist party.

00:28:04.840 People are still very reticent about it.

00:28:06.560 But, again, you don't have to go too far from social media in this country,

00:28:10.840 and people don't give a damn anymore, 0.68

00:28:13.720 and they're telling it how it is, and they're calling it out what it is.

00:28:17.160 I think also, as well, there are two reasonably good media stations in this country,

00:28:23.100 Talk TV and also GB News, who, again, are shameless in bringing you the facts

00:28:29.640 on what is happening in migrant towns and what the migrants are up to.

00:28:33.120 So, yeah, you know, I'm very, very pleased about that.

00:28:36.900 I think a lot of people in this country, you know,

00:28:38.480 particularly social media, have led their way on this, Ezra.

00:28:40.740 I think you're right.

00:28:41.880 I mean, when you think of six votes, that's –

00:28:44.660 I mean, yes, the hundreds of council seats were very important.

00:28:47.800 And I see that the chairman of the Reform UK, Zia Yusuf, says there's going to be a rule.

00:28:53.820 Any town councils run by reform will no longer have flags

00:28:58.360 other than the British flag or the English flag.

00:29:02.280 So no pride flags, no Hamas flags.

00:29:04.480 And I just thought that is such a simple but symbolic move.

00:29:10.120 And I bet you so many Brits, even Labour Brits, would say,

00:29:14.720 you know what, that's right.

00:29:16.980 And that's common sense stuff.

00:29:18.800 And one of my favorite American commentators is Scott Jennings on CNN.

00:29:22.600 And he says the Democrats have been on the wrong end of the 80-20 issues too much.

00:29:26.900 He says that they've gone all in on transgenderism.

00:29:29.740 They've gone all in on these Mexican cartel gangs.

00:29:33.720 And that the public is 80-20.

00:29:35.780 I think that flags thing sounds like a nothing issue.

00:29:39.220 That is so symbolic.

00:29:40.360 And when people see that happening, they will say that's exactly what I voted for.

00:29:44.760 I'm excited.

00:29:45.620 I wish that in Canada and Australia, the conservative parties had Nigel Farage.

00:29:50.960 I mean, Farage is very cagey and he's very cautious in his own way.

00:29:55.640 But when he chooses to embrace something, he does it gleefully, not sheepishly.

00:30:01.000 And that may be a reason why he won and the so-called conservative candidates in Australia

00:30:07.560 called Liberal, in Canada, it's a conservative, didn't win.

00:30:11.640 I mean, maybe if Pierre Polyev said, freeze immigration, deport the illegals, it would have 1.00

00:30:17.540 caused the whole conflagration.

00:30:19.000 But he would be fighting on an issue that he would win, as opposed to talking about Trump

00:30:25.300 and the 51st state.

00:30:26.540 I don't know.

00:30:27.100 I'm just trying to reconcile Nigel Farage's huge win with the losses.

00:30:32.520 Yeah, indeed, yeah.

00:30:33.140 To sister or daughter.

00:30:34.260 Absolutely, yeah.

00:30:35.300 Yeah.

00:30:35.560 Go ahead.

00:30:36.240 Yeah.

00:30:36.420 I guess it's a case of how successful, you know, are the, you know, progressives, you

00:30:42.680 know, I'm shocked that Pierre Polyev wasn't elected.

00:30:46.200 I'm absolutely shocked.

00:30:47.880 You know, you're flaming Justin Trudeau for all that time. 1.00

00:30:52.240 What was the most obnoxious little, you know, scumbag? 0.99

00:30:56.460 You know, he made my skinful whenever I saw him on video or TV or whatever. 0.99

00:31:02.180 I think it's Dutton, I think, in Australia, you know, I think you're right.

00:31:07.380 They should have been bold.

00:31:10.000 But Dutton in Australia and Polyev in Canada should have been bold in their policies.

00:31:17.340 I think they were attracted a lot more votes.

00:31:19.720 In fact, I want to ask you, is the reason that the Liberals got in again, was it partly

00:31:24.840 down to Donald Trump and his comments about Canada being the 51st state?

00:31:28.420 I think so.

00:31:29.080 I mean, a lot of people that hurt their pride, it would, it was like an indecent proposal.

00:31:33.820 It would be like asking an already married person to, proposing marriage to them.

00:31:39.820 Some might laugh at it as a joke.

00:31:41.820 If someone was thinking of getting divorced, they might consider it.

00:31:44.440 But most people would be offended.

00:31:45.900 And I think that that was what you call a luxury issue.

00:31:51.080 Like, and a lot of boomers and seniors, they just, it offended them.

00:31:54.880 And so they voted based on that, not based on real issues like cost of housing, inflation,

00:32:02.500 immigrating.

00:32:03.240 There's some real issues that real people have to deal with.

00:32:06.420 But if you're a wealthy boomer with your home paid off, you can afford to vote based

00:32:11.000 on your feelings or a luxury issue.

00:32:13.860 I think that's what it was.

00:32:14.860 I'm still trying to figure it out.

00:32:16.040 I do believe Trump was central to moving a million votes over.

00:32:20.000 And that's what did it.

00:32:20.900 We'll have to, we'll have to keep in a close eye.

00:32:22.840 I love the UK.

00:32:24.120 I love Ireland too.

00:32:26.420 And I, and I don't think that's a contradiction.

00:32:28.840 And watching those two countries figure their way through these issues is very illuminating

00:32:34.600 to me as a Canadian.

00:32:35.480 And how can people follow you on Twitter?

00:32:38.540 What's your X handle?

00:32:40.940 I'm Dave Atherton, two zero, D-A-V-E-A-T-H-E-R-T-O-N, numbers two zero, Dave Atherton, 20.

00:32:51.100 So I've dug up an old tweet about it from three years ago.

00:32:55.560 I had 20,000 followers and I'm now nearing 300,000.

00:32:59.080 I can't believe it.

00:32:59.780 Unbelievable.

00:33:00.160 Well, I think it's because you call it like you see it and you've got that great British

00:33:03.820 command of the language and sense of humor.

00:33:07.600 And we love your style.

00:33:08.920 Thanks for taking some time with us tonight.

00:33:10.640 It's great to see you again.

00:33:12.180 As you're very kind.

00:33:12.880 Thank you very much.

00:33:13.380 Anytime.

00:33:14.020 All right.

00:33:14.360 There he is, David Atherton.

00:33:15.320 You can follow him at DavidAtherton20 on Twitter.

00:33:18.440 Stay with us.

00:33:19.360 Your letters to me next.

00:33:30.160 Hey, welcome back.

00:33:33.720 Your letters to me on Ireland and the firefighter we talked to over there.

00:33:39.640 Timmy Tudog says, Alberta needs firefighters.

00:33:42.460 Give the man a visa and relocate. 0.79

00:33:44.240 He and his family to Canada.

00:33:45.760 He's the kind of immigrant we need. 0.98

00:33:47.100 One that contributes rather than freeloads.

00:33:49.000 It's sad to see Ireland in such dire times.

00:33:51.280 You're talking about this fireman.

00:33:52.520 I mean, he's a working firefighter, like he's employed.

00:33:54.760 But there are so few houses available in Ireland, and the prices are so pumped up because of these migrants, he's literally homeless while working. 1.00

00:34:06.740 Shocking story.

00:34:08.320 Mary Kelly says, this is exactly what happened in America until Trump and Elon took over.

00:34:13.640 You know, boy, the whole world dodged a bullet with Trump and Elon Musk.

00:34:16.640 I'm not pleased with every single thing they're doing.

00:34:18.780 I think they hurt Canada with their talk of the 51st state.

00:34:22.240 I think that caused Pierre Polly have to lose.

00:34:23.940 But could you imagine Joe Biden or Kamala Harris were in charge?

00:34:28.760 World Life said, homelessness is an alarming problem in Western countries.

00:34:32.320 Our government continues to marginalize landowners' rights, licenses, permits, and property taxes.

00:34:37.280 Our three illegal messages used by our government to control your property.

00:34:42.020 I'm not sure if they're illegal.

00:34:44.420 I, maybe you mean that in a moral sense, but our property rights are limited by some regulation and some taxation.

00:34:53.300 And we want the scope of government intervention in our lives to be small, but we're not living in complete anarchy.

00:35:00.940 Anyway, I do appreciate your letters.

00:35:02.880 That's the show for today.

00:35:04.400 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, the UNO, good night.

00:35:09.120 And keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - May 05, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ PM Carney gives fake praise to press freedom

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