Rebel News Podcast - October 30, 2024


EZRA LEVANT | Premier Danielle Smith puts 'Alberta first' with carbon tax challenge


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

182.4495

Word Count

5,780

Sentence Count

358

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

In this episode, Ezra talks with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith about her new lawsuit against Justin Trudeau, her relationship with Stephen Gabbard, and what it's like to deal with the media, including how she deals with Stephen Gilbo.


Transcript

00:00:00.100 Hello, my friends. I'm very excited. I had a heart-to-heart with Danielle Smith, the Premier of Alberta.
00:00:05.160 She just announced she's suing Justin Trudeau. Well, that's music to my ears.
00:00:09.920 So we have a good conversation about that today. I want you to see it, though, not just hear it.
00:00:14.780 Because I asked Danielle Smith a few questions about other things, too.
00:00:18.000 I asked her what it's like to deal with Stephen Gilboa. I asked her what her prospects are,
00:00:22.940 because she's having a leadership review this weekend at her party's annual convention.
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00:00:49.460 Tonight, a feature interview with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith.
00:00:52.980 It's October 30th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:59.320 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:01:11.220 I'm really excited. Danielle Smith joined me for a 20-minute interview about her new lawsuit
00:01:18.320 against Justin Trudeau. We'll have that for you in a minute.
00:01:21.180 I'm excited about it, because anytime someone sues Justin Trudeau, I'm excited. We've even done it a
00:01:27.520 few times over the years. You know, I think at one point we had seven lawsuits going against Trudeau
00:01:32.860 or his ministers, many of them quite successful, others not so much, but you got to be in the arena
00:01:38.720 and trying. I think that our interview with Danielle Smith is good on its own merits, and you'll see it.
00:01:46.040 I mean, I'm not praising myself. I'm saying it was a substantive conversation, and we were talking
00:01:50.940 about the news. But there's something else I like about it, and that is that Premier Smith thought
00:01:57.320 nothing of sitting down with Rebel News for 20 minutes on the news of the day. As you might recall,
00:02:01.920 just a few weeks ago, when we were in Calgary for the Rebel News Live day-long conference,
00:02:07.420 she came in person, and we had a fireside chat for about half an hour, which I thought was great.
00:02:13.860 And the reason I like those, again, the substance of that conversation was excellent,
00:02:19.340 is that how politicians on the right react to Rebel News is sort of a litmus test. And I know it's not
00:02:29.180 just about us, not everything is about me or about Rebel News, but it is a surrogate for other things.
00:02:36.060 Mainly, are you subject to peer pressure, especially from the other media? I think most conservatives
00:02:46.200 have some affection or affiliation to Rebel News and to Western Standard and to True North and to
00:02:53.300 Counter-Signal and even the Epoch Times. And they know that, you know, you could disagree with this or
00:02:59.620 disagree with that, but generally we are on the right side of the fence. And we might be a little
00:03:04.260 spicy at times, but we're generally doing the right thing. So if a politician refuses to do an
00:03:11.920 interview with Rebel News, it's not because we're truly evil. It's not because we are bad or odious
00:03:17.260 in some way. It can't be. If they are, I mean, you know, we may be more conservative or less
00:03:22.100 conservative than this guy or that guy, but it's not for that reason that a politician would decline.
00:03:27.880 It's because they're worried about what other people would say. They'll be worried about what
00:03:34.000 the mean girls at the CBC have to say. And we've seen this because whenever a conservative leader in
00:03:40.780 the past has talked to Rebel News like Aaron O'Toole or Andrew Scheer, the CBC grills them. Why would you
00:03:47.620 meet with this person? Why would you talk with this person? They do it for other people too. I remember that
00:03:52.960 Maxime Bernier was grilled about why he would meet with, I think it was Jordan Peterson. Maybe it was
00:03:59.060 the other way around. Yeah, that's right. Jordan Peterson was grilled for why he would meet with
00:04:03.620 Maxime Bernier. It's not real journalism. It's cancel culture. And the politicians who are afraid to meet
00:04:09.720 with Rebel News show that they're susceptible to cancel culture. And the reason that's important
00:04:14.840 is not because my feelings get hurt when politicians refuse to talk to us, but rather that it's a predictor
00:04:21.960 of how these politicians will fare on any and every other issue. If they actually value what the mean
00:04:30.320 girls of the media party think, you know that they're going to fall down and be crumpled on anything
00:04:36.960 contentious. That's why a lot of people like Donald Trump so much, because he called out what he called
00:04:42.520 the fake news media. And that's one of the reasons Pierre Polyev is doing so well. He flips the script on
00:04:48.600 the media. He asks them prickly questions, and he's not afraid to take on the CEOs of the CBC and
00:04:55.340 recently of CTV. There are some politicians out there who aren't necessarily scared of us. They're
00:05:03.520 just not conservative. I would put Ontario Premier Doug Ford in that category. But I'm pleased to say
00:05:09.160 we have a rapport with other conservatives across the country. The new leader of the opposition,
00:05:14.760 Mr. Rustad in BC talks to Drea Humphrey all the time until he lost his recent election Premier Higgs
00:05:22.060 in New Brunswick. In fact, he actually advertised with us. So I think the fact that Danielle Smith
00:05:28.000 on a fairly regular basis sits down with Rebel News, not only do I find it interesting for
00:05:32.900 substantive reasons, but I think it's a sign that she just doesn't care what the mean kids in the media
00:05:39.580 party say. And that's what I like about it even more, don't you? I'll show you that interview in
00:05:45.080 one minute, but I also want to give you a little bit of news about what Rebel News is doing on election
00:05:49.460 night for the U.S. presidential election and the Congress and a third of their Senate and other
00:05:54.160 ballot initiatives. Very exciting. That's Tuesday, November 5th. It's coming up pretty quick, less than a
00:06:00.520 week from now. Let me tell you what Rebel News has going on. I'll be here in our world headquarters
00:06:06.100 command bunker, but we've got rebels all over the place. I'm just looking at my notes here,
00:06:11.240 so don't forget anything. David Menzies will be on location in Washington, D.C., outside the White
00:06:18.800 House. I think that's going to be very exciting. There's always crowds that gather, pro and con.
00:06:24.480 Alexa Lavoie will be in New York City, right outside Trump Tower. I think that's where Trump's going to
00:06:30.540 be, actually, on election day. And as we saw with the Madison Square Gardens rally, there are a ton
00:06:37.080 of New Yorkers who are proud to be Republicans for Trump, even though the city will most likely vote
00:06:43.040 Democrat again. And our friend Avi Amini from Australia, who for the last month has been driving
00:06:48.420 an RV across America. You'll remember he started in San Francisco. I went down there to welcome him to
00:06:54.560 North America, and he's made his way across the country. He will be in Florida, in the Miami area.
00:07:01.580 I'm not sure if he's going to be at Mar-a-Lago, not sure exactly where he's going to be. But we're going
00:07:07.980 to be, we're going to have you covered, whether it's New York City, Trump Tower, Mar-a-Lago, or other
00:07:13.100 places in Florida, Washington, D.C., out the White House. We're going to have a ton of experts and pundits
00:07:19.300 we go to. I think we're going to start fairly early, and we're going to go fairly late. I know
00:07:24.460 I won't want to quit until we know the results. Now, there's a chance that will be for days.
00:07:30.020 But on some of our election nights, as you know, we stay up to 1, 2, 3 a.m. even.
00:07:34.960 We're going to have you covered. So if you're looking for a fun and non-leftist way to watch the
00:07:42.980 U.S. presidential election, tune in here to Rebel News. And in the past, we have had tens of thousands
00:07:48.720 and even hundreds of thousands of people watch our coverage. And we're really pulling out the
00:07:53.900 stops this time. So that's next Tuesday night. But for now, enjoy my one-on-one interview with
00:07:59.780 Alberta Premier Danielle Smith about her latest lawsuit against Justin Trudeau. And I do ask her
00:08:05.860 a final question about her leadership vote. As you know, the United Conservative Party is having their
00:08:13.060 annual convention this weekend in Red Deer, Alberta. And some people, I can't even fathom it,
00:08:18.720 want to throw Danielle Smith overboard, even though she just won a majority election. So I asked her
00:08:23.680 to make the case for herself going into that vote. I'll be there in Red Deer for the conference too. So
00:08:29.100 if you'll be there, I look forward to saying hi to you in person. Without further ado, here's Danielle Smith.
00:08:34.200 From where we're sitting, it looks an awful lot like one more attempt to divide our country,
00:08:48.040 to reward one region and punish another. And we're not going to sit back and let this unfair carve out
00:08:53.480 disadvantage Albertans for another winter. And so I'm pleased to announce that this morning,
00:08:58.080 Alberta filed an application for a judicial review of the exemption in the federal court.
00:09:02.200 We're asking the court to declare the exemption, both unconstitutional and unlawful. We hope that
00:09:09.880 this will force Ottawa to recognize the burden the carbon tax places on Canadians and eliminate the
00:09:15.840 tax altogether. Albertans know we've got their backs on this. Our government has been fighting
00:09:21.040 the federal carbon tax since 2019. Well, that was Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announcing a
00:09:26.840 constitutional challenge to Justin Trudeau's idea to give a special carbon tax break, but only to certain
00:09:34.800 parts of Canada where they use home heating oil, as opposed to Western Canada and other places where they
00:09:40.960 primarily use natural gas. Joining us now to talk about this is the Premier herself, Danielle Smith. What a pleasure
00:09:47.120 to have you on the show, Premier. Thanks for taking the time. Nice to see you, Ezra. Well, it's a great thing
00:09:53.880 to sue Ottawa. I think it should be the pastime of many Premiers, especially when you have an overreaching
00:10:01.480 federal government that's mucking around in business that's not its own. Tell me the theory behind the
00:10:07.580 Alberta lawsuit at the federal court that you just filed. Well, as you know, we have been fighting
00:10:13.940 against the retail carbon tax since the UCP got elected. They launched, first of all, they eliminated
00:10:20.320 it. And then, of course, Justin Trudeau came in and put it in any case. And then we ended up going to
00:10:26.220 court and unfortunately we lost. And we lost, I believe, because what the court looked at is that
00:10:32.140 they didn't really disagree with the need to do something about reducing emissions. And the attitude
00:10:37.660 was, well, if Ottawa is going to do this and you're going to do nothing, then I'll side with Ottawa.
00:10:41.360 And Ottawa was making arguments about how they needed to be able to set a floor price across
00:10:45.900 the entire country. They made it sound like only the national government could do this to
00:10:50.640 make sure that everyone was treated fairly. Well, then they just blew that argument completely
00:10:54.620 out of the water by giving a car vote to essentially those in eastern Canada that use home heating
00:11:03.560 oil, which is the most polluting, most emitting type of fuel. And so they've blown their argument
00:11:09.640 up on a number of fronts. First of all, the fairness argument, that's gone. Second of all,
00:11:14.440 trying to dissuade people from using the most polluting fuels, that one's gone. And thirdly,
00:11:19.400 they wanted to make sure that they were giving some support because of the cost at the same time
00:11:24.080 as they've been arguing that their carbon tax doesn't increase the cost of everything. So we feel
00:11:28.820 that not only is it breaking their own law, they have a Greenhouse Gas Emissions Act,
00:11:33.940 but we also think it's unconstitutional and we're prepared to fight it out.
00:11:37.440 Well, there's one more thing is when the liberals announced they were going to give that tax break
00:11:42.160 just to that region's primary choice of energy, their rationale was it was to lower taxes on people
00:11:49.720 to save money, which I think gives away the game. They used to say, oh, no, no, you got to eat your
00:11:54.900 spinach. You need this to save the world. This is about reducing greenhouse gases as if you can
00:12:00.700 change the weather with a tax. But I think that they gave it away when they said, no,
00:12:05.700 this is about tax relief. So that rationale you talked about earlier, the court saying,
00:12:10.920 well, we got to do something. It's like the liberals have conceded. This is just a political
00:12:16.000 bobble to bargain away for some regional votes. Well, you have to remember, it was post me if I
00:12:22.720 wondered if that was the case. And you have to remember that years ago, Atlanta, Canada voted 100%
00:12:27.820 for the liberals. And it's not looking that way for them now. And so I would I would hate to think
00:12:33.460 that the federal liberals would make a decision of this magnitude for simple vote buying and for
00:12:39.760 politics. But in the absence of a good argument, which I hope that they will be able to make in
00:12:45.640 court, I think that this this exemption has to be struck down. They've got to treat everybody fairly.
00:12:50.220 And what we're aiming for is to have the entire carbon retail carbon tax struck down. We've already
00:12:56.160 seen it is not doing anything to reduce emissions. All it is is punitive. It's making the cost of
00:13:01.320 transportation fuel, home heating, electricity go nothing but up. And those are the base fuels
00:13:07.260 for every single thing we buy. So it's increased the cost of everything in the middle of an
00:13:11.380 affordability crisis. They should be eliminating it. You know, I saw in your remarks today, you
00:13:17.640 you didn't go to war against other provinces. You sort of said, well, you guys are lucky to have
00:13:22.980 this tax cut. Can we get some of that too? Here's a clip of you earlier today.
00:13:26.640 I've sent text to both Premier Eby as well as Premier Mo congratulating them on returning to
00:13:33.580 office. I told Premier Eby I'm looking forward to working with him collaboratively on some of the
00:13:38.920 energy files that we've been talking about together, building out the hydrogen economy, exporting ammonia,
00:13:45.000 getting more export capacity for LNG. And I spoke with Premier Mo about potentially considering joining
00:13:52.460 this case. So we'll we'll see what I mean, he's already demonstrated that he believes that the
00:13:58.400 federal government is treating his province unfairly. He acted in a bit of a different way
00:14:01.500 than we did. And I hope that he's able to join this this case as soon as he gets his cabinets worn in.
00:14:06.460 How has your lawsuit being received by other provinces? Maybe it's too early to get feedback
00:14:12.620 on it. For example, Saskatchewan just reelected Premier Scott Mo, who has also been very vocal
00:14:19.360 against the carbon tax and this regional favoritism. Do you think there's a possibility that other
00:14:25.500 premiers will get on board? And also, do you think some of those Atlantic premiers might say,
00:14:31.360 you know, hey, Alberta, shut up. Don't don't mess up a good thing. Like, what are the other provinces
00:14:37.200 saying with your lawsuit? Well, I'll be seeing them in a couple of months time because we're going for
00:14:42.340 a Council of the Federation meeting. I can tell you that what I've found at the premier's table is
00:14:47.720 is everybody wants to get treated fairly by the federal government. Everybody's upset with federal
00:14:52.640 overreach. And even in the case of those provinces that are benefiting right now, it's only a three
00:14:58.500 year reprieve. And so they're going to be facing exactly what everybody else is facing within a
00:15:02.720 couple of years time. So I would hope that others would see that this is not the pathway to reduce
00:15:08.020 emissions. We believe the pathway to reduce emissions is through technology, innovation,
00:15:12.500 as well as as exporting our cleaner burning fuels internationally to reduce emissions elsewhere.
00:15:18.100 That that should be the formula that Canada follows, as opposed to continually putting in punitive
00:15:23.480 measures that is disadvantaging one region over another.
00:15:26.520 Premier Scott Moe has been very vigorous on this, but Premier David Eby, who also just was reelected
00:15:33.020 in a squeaker, he has been in the past a very vocal supporter of the carbon tax. Where is he now? And
00:15:40.060 I'm sure you gave him a quick congratulatory call or something. Where, where does he stand on this
00:15:46.620 issue? Has he sort of had second thoughts because the voters gave him a bit of an attitude adjustment?
00:15:52.600 I think I've watched a little bit of his commentary since getting reelected and, and, and it was a
00:15:59.980 squeaker. And he said, you know, we received a message from British Columbians and there were two
00:16:04.160 major policy reversals that he had. One was on the issue of the carbon tax and the other was on the
00:16:08.500 issue of compassionate care for those who are suffering in the throes of addiction. So I think
00:16:15.560 those are two issues where he heard loud and clear he had to switch course on. You even saw it in
00:16:20.280 Saskatchewan, the Saskatchewan NDP leader who also gained ground in this last election was talking about
00:16:25.940 eliminating the carbon tax or fighting against it. Uh, and so you're, you're beginning to see
00:16:31.000 that even the NDP, which, which really has, has, has been such a champion of this type of approach
00:16:36.840 have come to the conclusion that it is not working and it is, it is punitive and it's,
00:16:42.420 is hurting people in the pocketbook. I have no idea why that hasn't had an impact at the federal
00:16:47.400 level, but there's two avenues to solve problems. One is through politics. The other is through the
00:16:51.760 courts. We had some success in the past at getting other provinces to join us in the, in this, in our
00:16:56.800 previous action. And I hope that others will join us in this one too. I want to talk in a minute about
00:17:00.920 some of those other court actions, but just before we move on, you say the, the NDP, uh, is,
00:17:07.080 is moving over in Saskatchewan. There's a different kind of NDP in the prairies, I think,
00:17:12.420 Jagmeet Singh is a very woke progressive. Uh, I think he's, he, he is probably worse in every
00:17:21.060 way than Justin Trudeau on these things. Are there any signs other than the federal conservatives
00:17:27.860 that any other party would perhaps consider reducing the carbon tax? I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
00:17:35.180 Maybe Jagmeet Singh is, has expressed some skepticism about it. I, I presume the Bloc Québécois
00:17:40.580 loves the carbon tax. Do you have any allies federally other than Pierre Polyev?
00:17:45.320 Well, I think, I mean, Pierre Polyev is the obvious one. And I think in fact, it's his
00:17:49.720 leadership at the, at the federal level that I think has created an environment where others
00:17:55.240 are asking the same questions that he's been asking, um, and have come to the same conclusion
00:17:59.540 that, that this isn't the way to, to try to reduce emissions. This isn't the way to,
00:18:04.860 if you're concerned about emissions, there's better ways to do it rather than punishing your
00:18:09.000 own citizens with, uh, excessively high consumer taxes that they can't avoid. That's the thing that
00:18:14.640 I think has been the most frustrating is that in whether it's for diesel or gasoline, that there
00:18:19.640 just, there just isn't another alternative that works in our cold climate. Um, electric vehicles may
00:18:26.460 work in some jurisdictions and certainly in, in Metro areas, but we've got a vast, vast country with
00:18:32.720 large distances between our municipalities. Uh, we've got a lot of trucking industry where we
00:18:38.720 have to get our products to market across vast, vast distances that once again require diesel fuel
00:18:44.080 in, in Alberta, our home heating is almost a hundred percent natural gas. Our electricity grid
00:18:49.560 is 90% natural gas. And the federal government has put on a carbon tax that is three times the
00:18:56.400 base costs of natural gas. It's absurd. And I think people are beginning to see that there,
00:19:01.920 there may have been more acceptance when it was a nuisance tax, when it was a, when you saw it on
00:19:07.440 your bill, now it's a punitive tax and people are reacting to that. And it goes up every year,
00:19:12.860 ironically on April fool's day, you know, I think it was an abacus poll that showed recently a major
00:19:20.720 shift among young people for their top priority and climate change or global warming absolutely
00:19:27.360 plummeting. And I think it's because, you know, that's sort of a luxury issue to care,
00:19:32.640 to think that a tax will change the weather. And it's very abstract. Whereas paying that price in
00:19:38.640 this inflationary high cost environment, I think young people are now panicking about,
00:19:43.440 can I afford a house? Can I afford groceries? I think that the biggest movers on the carbon tax are
00:19:49.360 young people. And it's sort of the boomers for whom that's still a luxury issue. Do you detect any
00:19:55.040 movement amongst young people? I think 10 years ago, youth would have been absolutely in lockstep
00:20:00.560 with Greta Thunberg and Stephen Gilbeau. But I think in 2024, they're, they're sober minded and
00:20:06.320 think we've got to cut taxes. Do you get that read from young people? Yeah, completely. I mean,
00:20:11.760 when you look at, first of all, food costs, 80% of every aspect of producing food requires fossil fuels,
00:20:19.200 whether it's the fertilizer, whether it's the equipment to harvest the grain or do the seeding
00:20:25.840 or dry the grain, whether it's taking the transportation to market, or even whether it's
00:20:30.800 the grocery stores and how they're heated and powered, every aspect of that has a fossil fuel
00:20:38.880 attached to it. And so you're just compounding the cost. That's part of the reason why we have
00:20:43.120 a crisis right now in, in the increase year over year in food. And then as well, I mean,
00:20:49.440 I think our young people, they started going out there, renting houses and, and renting apartments,
00:20:55.840 and they're seeing the rents go up. So they're thinking, well, maybe I want to buy a house one day.
00:21:00.320 And of course the interest rates have gone up dramatically because of the inflation crisis,
00:21:04.000 again, created by, by Justin Trudeau with his loose money policy, but layered on top of that,
00:21:09.600 the impact that these carbon taxes have. So I think that, that people pay attention
00:21:14.160 to what's happening with their pocketbook. They, they aspirationally want to be able to
00:21:17.760 own a home, have a good job, get married, have kids, be able to take their kids to soccer and
00:21:22.640 hockey practice. And I think a lot of young people are saying, is that going to be out of reach for me?
00:21:26.880 And that's something that the federal government has created. They own that. And so how do you begin
00:21:31.120 to address it? Well, I think you start by getting rid of a tax that isn't serving its purpose
00:21:36.560 and is causing this kind of harm. And, and then you can, you can start addressing
00:21:40.800 the issues that really matter to people. I think earlier in your announcement,
00:21:44.800 you mentioned that when Alberta got rid of its carbon tax, inflation went down.
00:21:49.040 Here's a clip of that from today. Or consider the savings in a time
00:21:53.360 when, when Canadians are coping with levels of inflation that we haven't seen in decades.
00:21:58.560 The carbon tax is adding to inflation. In fact, according to the Bank of Canada,
00:22:02.240 the federal carbon tax increases inflation by 0.15% per year, year over year. But we also know
00:22:09.120 that the impact that taxes have on inflation, because when we paused the collection of our
00:22:13.600 13 cent per liter of provincial fuel tax, we saw inflation slow in our province. We've seen the same
00:22:18.720 thing in Manitoba and Saskatchewan. Imagine the impact on inflation. If we removed three times that
00:22:24.640 amount in 2030, the carbon tax on fuel will reach 39.6 cents per liter. According to the Canadian
00:22:32.400 Energy Centre, the carbon tax will account for 24% of annual fuel costs. Imagine the savings to
00:22:38.480 Canadians if their bill was a quarter the cost when they filled up. If the federal government is now
00:22:43.760 saying that removing the carbon tax on home heating oil will lower costs, then this carbon tax exemption
00:22:48.800 for eastern Canada blows a big hole in their justification for the carbon tax. Furthermore,
00:22:54.800 applying it unequally is unconstitutional and it runs counter to Ottawa's own carbon tax legislation.
00:23:02.080 Our end goal is the same as a growing number of Canadians from across the country to get rid of
00:23:07.440 the retail carbon tax. If Ottawa won't axe this heartless tax altogether, they can at least play fair
00:23:14.400 when imposing it on Canadians. And that's what we'll be heading back to court to achieve.
00:23:19.840 Is Stephen Gilbeau reachable through any kind of dialogue or compromise or communication? Or is he
00:23:28.400 like a zombie, a robot, like a terminator? I wonder if he is just an ideologue or is he a log-rolling,
00:23:37.200 deal-making politician? What's he like on this stuff to deal with?
00:23:41.360 An ideologue. There's no question about it. And I've talked to others who have dealt with them.
00:23:46.720 And in fact, some of my colleagues, premier colleagues say, well, you know, you can go and try
00:23:51.280 to negotiate with this minister, but we haven't had much success. So lower your expectations. I've
00:23:56.800 talked to members in the auto manufacturing field as well. They thought that they were working in good
00:24:01.520 faith to see if they could come up with some way around the aggressive net zero electricity rules.
00:24:08.800 And they had no luck. You look at even the approach that we took on trying to get something
00:24:13.760 reasonable around the net zero power grid. We know that that's not possible in Alberta with 90% of
00:24:18.480 our grid being fueled by natural gas at the time that we had just phased out coal. There's no possible
00:24:24.640 way. We'd have billions of dollars in stranded assets. We'd have unreliability in our grid and we'd
00:24:30.720 have an affordability crisis. And we're not making much headway there either. And then we keep hearing
00:24:35.440 that they want to put on an emissions cap, which we know would actually be a production cap on our
00:24:39.680 energy. So it seems like for some reason that minister has been given carte blanche, whether
00:24:46.000 it's emissions caps or methane caps or net zero power grids or net zero vehicles or net zero buildings
00:24:53.120 and net zero homes. It seems to me that for some reason, he has been able to direct the policy of the
00:25:00.880 liberals. And I think that they're foolish if they think that that isn't a lot to do with the reason
00:25:05.760 why they're tanking in the polls.
00:25:08.400 While we're on Gilboa, before we move on, give me one minute about his mismanagement
00:25:12.640 of the Jasper wildfire. We don't want to make that a partisan issue, but it is a fact,
00:25:18.080 as parliamentary testimony has shown, that it was decisions made by Ottawa that just magnified
00:25:27.360 everything that happened. Give us a minute on that, Premier. Well, I can tell you, I mean,
00:25:31.280 the province, we fight literally hundreds of fires a year. I think we had over a thousand last year.
00:25:37.040 Parks Canada only fights dozens of fires and we were ready on standby to be called in to do unified
00:25:43.280 command. And unfortunately, there were some decisions made and we heard about it in the testimony
00:25:50.160 where it sounds like there were some fire, structural firefighters who were turned away. Prior to that,
00:25:56.880 though, there was also and we've been raising it. In fact, I talked to my former environment minister.
00:26:03.600 We were raising it with them since 2018, knowing that the pine beetle kill and the fuel growing up
00:26:09.200 around Jasper was getting to a point where it was dangerous. And we were pleading with them to do
00:26:15.200 something about it. So that goes back in our records to 2018. And we're not the only ones. Parks Canada
00:26:20.560 scientists have also raised the alarm, not just with Jasper. But remember, we had a big wreck
00:26:25.520 in Waterton Park as well. And they're also concerned about Banff. And so we've seen that
00:26:31.440 they just turned a blind eye to it. Look, when we have an old forest, when our forests get to be
00:26:36.480 about 80 to 100 years old, they die. And when you've got a lot of dead trees, there's only a few things
00:26:41.200 that will happen. Either take them out mechanically so that they don't end up igniting. You do prescribe
00:26:46.560 burns so you get rid of that fuel or nature takes its course. And so I don't think it's been a surprise
00:26:51.520 to a lot of people who've been warning of this, that that occurred. It's very disappointing. We're
00:26:55.840 now working with the federal government to make sure that we can rebuild in a timely way. And we'll
00:27:01.120 continue to do that. But we can't allow this to happen again. I know you got to run. Let me ask
00:27:05.920 one last question, because we're on the eve of your party convention in Red Deer. I'll be there,
00:27:10.880 along with Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter. I am astounded by the fact that your party constitution
00:27:16.560 allows for a leadership review right after a successful majority government. And I'm even
00:27:22.560 more astounded that there would be critics who would call for your defenestration.
00:27:31.280 And this is not me being a fanboy. This is me saying, oh my God, what are you doing? You beat
00:27:36.720 the NDP. You're running the most conservative pro-Alberta government imaginable. What's going on in
00:27:43.440 the UCP? And what's your message to Alberta delegates who will be meeting in Red Deer in
00:27:49.280 a few days? Give me a closing argument for you for that leadership review. I'm astonished by it.
00:27:56.480 But maybe it's just a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Give me 60 seconds on that
00:28:01.840 before you go. Well, look, we put forward a bill of rights so that people have the ability to make
00:28:06.400 their own medical choices, including the choice to refuse a vaccine. We're bringing forward policies
00:28:11.440 that will make sure that kids who are suffering with gender dysphoria don't prematurely make
00:28:17.120 decisions that are going to prevent them from being able to have kids of their own one day.
00:28:20.480 We support parental rights and parents need to be included in all of those decisions.
00:28:24.880 We've run balanced budgets for the last three years. We put money into savings and we're continuing
00:28:30.640 to have the best economic performance in the entire country. 100,000 new jobs that were created,
00:28:35.600 mostly in the private sector. So I'm feeling like we're doing very well. We are leading the nation.
00:28:41.360 What I worry about with conservatives is they sometimes make the perfect the enemy of the good.
00:28:46.240 There will always be little things that members think that we could move faster on or we could
00:28:51.360 have done in a bit of a different way. But I think that we've seen in other jurisdictions what happens
00:28:55.600 when the conservative movement splits. We just saw a result in Saskatchewan where the NDP
00:29:01.360 sure got a lot closer than anybody's comfort. We saw as well in New Brunswick where unfortunately
00:29:06.320 Premier Higgs ended up losing as a result, I think, of losing of that vote split as well.
00:29:12.560 So I want our movement in Alberta to stay united. I've been responsible in the past for seeing it
00:29:18.240 divided and I sure like it when our conservative family is together under one roof. I think that that
00:29:22.880 is the pathway to success. Yeah, I hope that the party is sober-minded and we'll be there to report
00:29:29.440 on it. Premier Smith, thanks very much for spending some time with us. Congratulations on this lawsuit.
00:29:34.480 I believe that everyone should sue Justin Trudeau from time to time. I've done it once or twice
00:29:39.040 myself. Good luck this weekend. We'll see you there in Red Deer.
00:29:42.480 You bet. Thanks, Ezra. You're welcome. There you have it.
00:29:45.200 Premier Danielle Smith of Alberta giving us the scoop on the new lawsuit. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:30:00.240 We've got some letters about Danielle Smith's decision to sue the feds. She made that
00:30:05.920 announcement yesterday, so that's why these letters are here today. Patrick Rusk 8168 says,
00:30:11.200 just refuse to collect the tax, the carbon tax. By the time it goes to court,
00:30:16.080 true dope will be out of power and the tax will be gone if Polyev keeps true to his word of action
00:30:21.760 and tax. That's exactly right. I was going to ask her that question, but I sort of ran out of time
00:30:26.240 with her. You just have to rag the puck for a year or so, because when Polyev takes over,
00:30:32.080 I am quite certain he'll keep his promise to axe the carbon tax. And so not only Alberta,
00:30:37.520 but all other provinces will be free of the tax. Alberta Patriot says,
00:30:42.000 if Alberta was a republic, all of this would go away. Well, I know that there's been a lot of
00:30:48.400 dreams in Alberta for it to become a republic, for it to be part of a United West or an independent
00:30:53.600 West. There used to be a party called the WC, Western Canada Concept. I've seen it with three
00:30:58.880 provinces and the prairies. I've seen it with BC added to it. And of course, there are those who say,
00:31:03.920 join the United States of America. They would certainly love to have Alberta with its enormous
00:31:09.200 oil reserves, many times larger than America's. And then you wouldn't need any approvals for
00:31:14.640 pipelines, would you? Because even under Joe Biden, American pipelines get built. The business
00:31:19.440 of America is business. Thanks for your letters. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow,
00:31:24.400 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,
00:31:28.080 good night, good night, good night, good night, good night. And keep fighting for freedom.