In my final show before leaving for the World Economic Forum in Davos, I talk to Dr. James Lindsay about what to look out for and what to say to VIPs and VIPs in the streets of Davos. Dr. Lindsay joins us via Skype from Knoxville, Tennessee.
00:00:00.300Forgive me my sore throat today guys, but I've got a great show today. One of my favorite people to interview, Dr. James Lindsay.
00:00:08.000I asked him for tips on how to cover the World Economic Forum in Davos. By the time this podcast goes to air, I will be on the plane flying to the World Economic Forum.
00:00:18.960So I basically talked to Dr. James for 45 minutes, getting his advice on what to do and say in Davos. You don't want to miss it.
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00:00:41.360And this is the kind of thing you will never see on a government channel. Tough questions to ask the World Economic Forum.
00:00:56.000Tonight, in my last show, before I go to the World Economic Forum, I get a briefing from Dr. James Lindsay on what I should look out for in Davos.
00:01:13.400It's January 11th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:22.400Well, I apologize at the top of the program for my voice, and it is my enemy's favorite curse that I may lose my voice because that would lose my power and I would be resigned to typing.
00:01:42.260But we will work through it, and hopefully by the time I land in Davos tomorrow, I'll get my voice back.
00:01:49.340I promise I won't holler too much on my way there.
00:01:52.400But it's an important show today because this is my last show before I depart for the World Economic Forum.
00:01:58.840Avi Yamini, our star from Australia, is already there.
00:02:05.860Calvin Robinson from GB News and our young reporter, Callum Smiles.
00:02:10.060In addition to that on-air talent, we'll have three producers and cameramen for a total compliment, I think, of seven or eight people.
00:02:17.940And we're going economy class all the way, of course, including sharing one big Airbnb.
00:02:22.800That's in stark contrast to the billionaire style of the oligarchs meeting there.
00:02:27.760Our purpose is to ask inappropriate, illegal, disobedient, and contrarian questions.
00:02:34.340I should tell you that we've seen a guest list of Davos for the World Economic Forum, and there are plenty of journalists who are officially registered.
00:02:42.300But they're registered not as outside observers, but as insider participants.
00:03:01.320What kind of questions should we be thinking of?
00:03:04.240What do we do if we catch a VIP on the streets of Davos and have only 30 or 60 seconds to buttonhole them before they scurry away into one of their limos?
00:03:13.740And no, I don't expect there's any electric SUVs tuning them around.
00:04:04.480Frankly, you've got to ask them what words that they use mean.
00:04:07.340They've got, you know, an army of buzzwords.
00:04:09.660Sustainability is probably the hottest ticket item.
00:04:12.120But resilience and inclusion and these kind of words, we've become familiar with having a toxic aura around them.
00:04:19.800It'd be fun, in my opinion, to kind of catch them out and say, when you say resilience, what specifically do you mean?
00:04:25.220And let them kind of speak to their BS.
00:04:29.020When you say sustainable, do you mean that you expect the institutions of the West to subscribe to, actively promote the sustainable development goals of the United Nations?
00:04:39.340What's the relationship between the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, and its so-called Agenda 2030 to transform our world?
00:04:47.140Those kinds of questions, I think, are at the top of the list of things that we should be pressing people on right now.
00:04:53.320You know what I like about your answer to me is that that's a real information-gathering question.
00:05:01.880It's trying to coax them out from beyond the paper-thin – I mean, they have this message track, sustainability, climate action, you know, these words.
00:05:15.600They're never asked, well, what do you mean or how does that work or how does it contradict or complement?
00:05:21.020So they only have this shallow message because they're not – they've never engaged in a back-and-forth debate.
00:05:27.800So simply asking them, what do you mean, which is really the basic question of all journalism.
00:05:34.880I mean, 90 percent of journalism could be just done with what do you mean, that question.
00:05:38.860Yeah, well, I mean, for a couple of examples, the United Nations or UNESCO more specifically has put out a number of documents in the last two to three years,
00:05:47.740several last year, specifically saying that all colleges and higher education institutions and all primary and secondary education needs to be bent toward achieving the Sustainable Development Goals.
00:05:58.860Our schools, literally children in kindergarten being taught, what is world hunger?
00:06:03.480This is an agenda item that's not just coming down from UNESCO but has now been repeated by the National Education Association Foundation in the United States in official documents and putting out a booklet of curriculum.
00:06:13.780So when we – when you have the opportunity to talk to these hyper-elite stakeholder technocrats, you should ask them, do you intend to teach five-year-olds to try to meet the United Nations Sustainable Agenda,
00:06:28.760the Sustainable Development Goals Agenda, and why?
00:06:33.100Why are five-year-olds necessary to get on board with this agenda to solve world problems?
00:06:48.300Lawyers drop Latin words all the time.
00:06:50.420And, I mean, partly because that's an ancient tradition.
00:06:53.400I mean, the law is centuries or even millennia old.
00:06:55.540So there is a legitimate reason for it, but part of it is that they're a secret priesthood, a guild, and you're not in it, and you must obey them, and you must defer to their authority,
00:07:05.580and you must hire them and pay them because they're better than you.
00:08:12.640They're not there to report on what's going on.
00:08:15.260They're there to report the new narrative, the new agenda.
00:08:18.820Within the Davos meeting, and I don't draw this from some conspiracy, I read this book that the World Economic Forum published 10 years ago, or 12 years ago, called World Economic Forum, The First 40 Years, which they told what they do year by year by year, all 40 years of 1971 through 2010.
00:08:36.840And they explained that they have closed-door meetings within Davos as well that subscribe to things like Chatham House Rules, where you can report on what was said, but you can't say who said it.
00:08:48.200And there are these kind of tacit agreements to subscribe to the Davos agenda, the Davos manifesto, or the Davos pledge.
00:08:54.540And so if you're on the inside, you're probably there because you've agreed to whatever set of agreements that they've put forth in those regards.
00:09:03.760They've said so more or less explicitly.
00:09:06.180So I think that the journalists on the inside are not there to ask legitimate questions.
00:09:10.780And as we saw last year, Jack Posobiec, representing, I think he was for Human Events Daily last year, went over and was filming and asking questions.
00:09:20.820And they surrounded him with guards and machine guns and demanded to, you know, confiscate his footage and all of these things.
00:09:28.580He ended up being fine, but they weren't very happy that there were actual outside journalists asking outside questions.
00:09:34.520So you can surmise from that that the inside journalists are not merely tolerated, but that they're agents, they're assets of what's happening inside.
00:09:45.820You know, I live in Canada, and our analogy to the New York Times is the Globe and Mail.
00:09:57.060Every law firm, every accounting firm, every stockbroker reads it.
00:10:00.920And by the way, they do some excellent journalism like the New York Times does.
00:10:04.520But you don't truly understand the purpose of the Globe and Mail, just like you don't truly understand the purpose of the Washington Post and the New York Times, unless you know who owns it.
00:10:14.940And in the case of the New York Times, it's Mexico's richest man, Carlos Slim, who has tremendous interests in America and the world.
00:10:22.900In the case of Washington Post, it's Jeffrey Bezos, one of the richest men in the world.
00:10:26.820And in the case of Canada's Globe and Mail, the richest Canadian, the oligarch David Thompson, worth, what, $23 billion, that's his.
00:10:38.020He owns it to shape the national conversation, either to suit his own business interests or because he has an ideology that he wants to promulgate.
00:10:45.820So when I learned that the executive, the editor-in-chief of the Globe and Mail is going as an insider, I don't think, wow, they're going to blow the lid off it.
00:10:53.900I think, oh, our oligarch is harmonizing with their oligarchs so all the birds can fly in the V formation so naturally.
00:11:03.920That's what I think when I learned the Globe and Mail is sending a journalist, their top journalist.
00:11:09.700That's what I would agree with that completely.
00:11:13.500And I think that that explains an awful lot of what we have seen from the kind of big established media outlets.
00:11:20.120And to your point that they do some excellent journalism, of course they must.
00:11:23.640If they were pure, relentless, uniform propaganda, eventually people would catch on.
00:11:29.320There would be no way to point at legitimate articles and say, but look at this.
00:11:32.200And it takes only a small percentage of their output to be genuine narrative shaping propaganda to do tremendous amounts of damage or to suppress certain types of stories.
00:12:57.940But it was how the journalists were so gaga over this cool dude after the stodgy accountant, Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the conservative.
00:13:07.700I started really paying attention to it then.
00:13:59.300No, you look at Klaus Schwab and you wonder how he came directly out of central casting and you start wondering what Mike Myers knew when he did Austin Powers with Dr. Evil.
00:14:11.980What the World Economic Forum meeting represents and what the World Economic Forum itself represents?
00:14:16.440And a lot of people don't understand the nuance here is the attempt to forge what they call a public-private partnership.
00:14:22.260The goal is to put world leaders like Trudeau or Biden or Macron or whoever in the same room under the same kind of emotional connection, collaborative experience with major industry leaders in businesses along with major leaders in the nonprofit or non-governmental organization sector.
00:14:47.340And so you have this meeting of think tanks, government officials and big business along with under that, you know, large media magnets and their representatives.
00:14:59.240And the goal is to get them into a collaborative mode of thought about shaping the world in a particular direction.
00:15:06.000But in particular, it's to build those relationships that define what is the public-private partnership.
00:15:12.120Now, those of us who speak English and don't add lots of extra syllables and hyphens recognize that a public-private partnership is fascism.
00:15:20.160It is the union of state and corporate power to achieve totalitarian ends.
00:15:27.240It's to figure out who are going to be the young global leaders, to penetrate the cabinets, to make sure that the policies that ruin nations like Canada are going to be.
00:15:36.280It's to figure out what the agenda is going to look like and how different people are going to participate and how they can create ways to get them to participate without making it look like they are in an outright conspiracy.
00:15:46.700This is the point of the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos is to forge what they call a public-private partnership for a new economic model that they call stakeholder capitalism.
00:15:58.160So they want to identify who those stakeholders or the stakeholder representatives will be.
00:16:02.380And, of course, we can recognize that when you create a council of technocratic elites who are going to rule the world or dictate policy for the public and private sector on a broad, top-down scale, that the Russian word for that council is the best word to use.
00:16:18.420And the Russian word for council is, of course, Soviet.
00:16:22.420You know, I was looking through the board of trustees of the World Economic Forum, and I know, for example, Canada's deputy prime minister is on the board of trustees.
00:16:30.820And I happen to know that you have to take an oath of loyalty to Canada and to the Queen to join the cabinet.
00:16:37.600But how do you then also take an oath of loyalty and confidentiality and have a fiduciary duty to this corporate globalist entity with foreign policy and economic goals that are obviously different than that of Canada?
00:16:53.500Even if they're only slightly different, they are different.
00:16:56.880How can you be loyal to, like, any other entity that is in the same space as a government?
00:17:05.520And what you said earlier about getting a prime minister and a billionaire and a media magnate in the same room, that's exactly right.
00:17:14.280And that elevates a business person, a billionaire, an oligarch, someone who paid to play.
00:17:24.180It elevates them to the same level as the democratically elected head of a country.
00:17:28.640And therefore, it diminishes the value of being a democratically elected head of a country.
00:17:34.140You know, by the way, when I say I looked at the board of trustees, I didn't tell you who I saw on there.
00:17:39.600BlackRock, the head of BlackRock, Fink is his name, the head of Nestle, the head of the Carlyle Group, Al Gore.
00:18:25.620And the relationship that, of course, you've neglected here as well as any of these are partners or servants of the CCP as well, which, of course, Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum has been courting since Deng Xiaoping was in office in the 1970s.
00:18:42.720Openly, again, I'm not – this is not a conspiracy theory.
00:18:45.260Go read their own book that they published out of their own press called Forum Press.
00:18:49.580The book is called The World Economic Forum, The First 40 Years.
00:18:52.980And they brag about their attempts to create a partnership, an ongoing partnership with Deng Xiaoping starting in the 1970s, who was the successor to Mao.
00:19:02.500He took over in 1977 after Mao died in 1976.
00:19:05.580And immediately, they were forging a relationship with Deng Xiaoping.
00:19:10.660And just in the past few months, if not weeks, we've heard Klaus Schwab.
00:19:15.020We've seen videos of Klaus Schwab saying, with everything going on in China, almost unbelievably with the tyranny going on in China right now, him saying that the Chinese model is the one we should look to.
00:19:25.100That he applauds President Xi Jinping for everything that he's done.
00:19:29.960So, the relationship also to the CCP can't be ignored.
00:19:34.080To your question, though, it's actually – there is an answer.
00:19:37.660How can you pledge loyalty to two entities that have divergent programs?
00:19:44.300And the technical philosophical answer is called dialectical synthesis.
00:19:48.480What that means is that you convince yourself through a network and series of lies and distortions that the two opposing agendas are actually capable of being seen as the same agenda that you then attempt to harmonize into one cohesive set of beliefs.
00:20:07.260And so, rather than being seen as treason, if they can get all of the countries to declare that their actual national interests are following along with the Davos agenda or the sustainable development agenda of the United Nations, then there is no necessary conflict, at least not in their minds, if we want to step away from just blatant accusations that they're duplicitous and evil.
00:20:30.640You know, I was looking through the World Economic Forum website today, and I saw this word, global citizenship, global citizenship.
00:20:44.640For example, when Canadian-born terrorists who went to fight with ISIS in Syria and Iraq demand to be repatriated to Canada, and they have an argument, and it's actually a centuries-old argument, maybe even longer,
00:20:58.400that a citizen is a citizen, and they have the right to return to the country their citizenship, even if upon their return they're arrested and prosecuted and jailed for something, that is one of the rights of being a citizen.
00:21:11.160You have other rights, as enumerated in your country's constitution, perhaps the right to vote, the right to, there's a number of rights.
00:21:17.660But what does a global citizenship mean?
00:21:19.940What does that mean if you can't, what does it mean for your rulers?
00:21:25.040Because I think, to me, one of the most important things about citizenship is you get to kick out the bosses of your country if they get offside.
00:21:32.560But how do you ever kick off, kick out the bosses of an unelected, unaccountable, secretive group like the World Economic Forum?
00:21:38.540Isn't global citizenship just key code words for, we're replacing your national governments with King Klaus Schwab, and he'll use the language of global citizenship, but really it's a global dictatorship, and he's been there for 40 years, and he'll be there till he dies, and then it'll be taken over by other oligarchs.
00:22:02.500It's just a fake. It's not citizenship at all. It's a kind of servitude. You're a subject, not a citizen.
00:22:11.240I am so grateful that you brought that up, Ezra, because you asked me what kinds of questions.
00:22:16.300This, there's no, let me impress upon you that there is no more important question to ask anybody that you can get a hold of.
00:22:23.060What do you mean by global citizenship? What do you think that means?
00:22:27.000Because we all know, if we spend a few minutes thinking about it or look it up, what the word citizenship means or what's, it's a relationship, right?
00:22:34.120So what does it mean to be a citizen? It means that you're in a relationship with a sovereign.
00:22:38.000But currently we realize there is no global sovereign.
00:22:40.680Most of us that understand a thing or two realize we do not want a global sovereign, as you just articulated.
00:22:46.640We should not want a global sovereign.
00:22:48.460But if you can convince enough people that being a global citizen is something that means something to them and that it can confer privileges and rights without necessarily getting them too far into the weeds of those in exchange and the relationship come with duties,
00:23:04.680then you have people ready to accept to make good on that agreement by creating a global government.
00:23:09.840And so this is a very strategic narrative that's being woven and it's being delivered to our children.
00:23:16.160Virtually all of the forward-looking education documentation of the past two to three years talks about global citizenship education and bringing global citizenship into education.
00:23:26.120And they tell you actually in those documents what it means.
00:23:28.260So you will be able to know and press further that what a global citizen means is somebody who has subscribed to, guess what, the sustainable development goals and achieving them by 2030, at least for the present.
00:23:38.720So global citizenship is something that does not exist.
00:23:41.660There's no such thing as a global citizen.
00:23:43.220And they are trying to conjure this concept into reality.
00:23:47.160And then on the other end, they will make good on it by establishing the global sovereign that exchanges privileges, rights and duties to the so-called citizens, which are, as you said, subjects or in fact slaves of the world with these unaccountable oligarchs operating as a council of stakeholders as their rulers.
00:24:05.800And it's so very important to press on the global citizenship narrative, to make the global citizenship narrative visible to normal people, to get people to understand what the purpose of this and the Davos agenda and the UN agenda 2030 is and how they're working in concert.
00:24:20.980And I think 2023 is a year in which that must happen very widely, very broadly and very quickly.
00:24:26.900So I thank you so much for bringing up that topic.
00:24:38.140You know, when you have these social development goals, when you have diversity, inclusion and equity goals, that's really a kind of foreign policy, but it's not a foreign policy of any government.
00:24:53.320It's not even a foreign policy of the UN, although it is, but it's a foreign policy of BlackRock.
00:25:22.280Big pharma, military industrial complex.
00:25:26.340The left used to hate all these things.
00:25:30.180They used to hate the repatriation of funds out of foreign countries to these fat cat international executives.
00:25:39.040I haven't seen that other than Bernie Sanders, who twice they've robbed.
00:25:45.860I haven't seen, like, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, once in a while she grumbles about Amazon or something.
00:25:54.200But the entire left, including the progressive left, is absolutely cool, not just with Larry, with, I think his first name is Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock.
00:26:05.480But they're cool with the head of the CIA now.
00:26:08.200They're cool with the head of the FBI.
00:26:09.620They love hiring them on their left-wing cable channels, CNN, MSNBC.
00:26:14.820Every CIA and FBI hack is on a left-wing TV channel just shaping the narrative.
00:26:21.460When I was a kid, there was nothing more evil in the eyes of a leftist than the CIA.
00:26:26.360And you'd talk to a leftist about the CIA, and they'd go on for hours about, you know, revolutions in banana republics.
00:26:33.680And all of a sudden, all these powerful, extra-democratic entities, the left loves them.
00:26:42.180Well, you know, there's an old saying is, if you scratch a hippie, you find a fascist.
00:26:45.940And it's sort of like that, but there's another test, apparently, which is that if you give one of these leftists, you give them an avenue to achieve through kind of raw power the agendas that they value, you will also discover very quickly which ones were there by principle and which ones were there because they wish to gain power to enforce their agenda.
00:27:06.300And it's a quite clear – I mean, we get very frustrated by it, and we get confused by it, but it's a very clarifying moment when you understand.
00:27:13.620And what we want to understand with it is that many of these people want their values and their views and their, frankly, cult religion forced upon the world, and they are willing to sell out everything they ever fought for.
00:27:28.200The very moment that they believed that those institutions, large corporations, large banks, intelligence agencies, and so on, were no longer repressing the left, repressing communism, but rather supporting it, they all fell in line.
00:27:44.060They all – or nearly all – fell in line.
00:27:47.200And so what you actually see is that the agenda for many of these people was not principled or quickly became not principled and was actually just a desire to obtain power and affect their power through whatever means necessary as their theory suggests is the case.
00:28:06.900So what we have is a moment of actual revelation of clarity on the fact that we have a power-hungry movement that has an agenda it wishes to enforce on people, and they're finally confessing to that, not necessarily in word, but certainly in deed.
00:28:22.740You know, I was talking about my life 35 years ago, but 20 years ago, when George W. Bush was president, and when America, for better or for worse, was going to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there were so many movies against war.
00:28:43.540I remember going to the Toronto International Film Festival.
00:29:07.840I don't know if they make pro-war movies, but there's certainly – there is no anti-war left anymore.
00:29:13.640And watching a significant number of Republicans, but my God, the war in Ukraine – which, by the way, I'm opposed to Putin's invasion, just let me say it for the umpteenth time – but to treat Zelensky as a saint who must be given unlimited funds and arms,
00:29:33.660even while he talks about attacking Russia's own heartland despite their nuclear arsenal, I've just never seen such a thing.
00:29:41.520Even Canada, Justin Trudeau, who's an anti-military pacifist who used to brag about peacekeeping, he sounds so butch.
00:29:49.860He's like, he's ready to land on Normandy Beach himself.
00:29:52.620I just don't – like, what is it about that war?
00:29:56.440Is there something about that war that is intrinsically globalist?
00:30:00.680Or why is that war so holy in the media political establishment?
00:30:10.780My speculations are that Ukraine, which we know is extraordinarily corrupt, has extraordinary corrupt ties to the Bidens and so on, and probably others before him,
00:30:20.240is somehow extraordinarily relevant to their program, the World Economic Forum Globalist Program.
00:30:27.540We see the disruptions with energy, et cetera, as being something very significant.
00:30:31.980They see that Putin is no longer somebody that they're merely controlling.
00:30:34.940And again, I don't necessarily endorse his invasion, or at least I certainly feel for the citizens of Ukraine.
00:30:42.320I don't feel at all for their government, which I believe is quite fake and proxy.
00:30:47.920And of course, being fakely celebrated, what do we see?
00:30:51.160You see right now there's a resolution in our United States House of Representatives to build a bust of Zelensky to place into the United States Capitol on the House side, which is preposterous.
00:31:05.340And then we have him being brought into the World Economic Forum very explicitly.
00:31:10.200And then we just had the Miss Universe pageant, and how did Miss Ukraine come out dressed as a battle angel with a sword?
00:31:16.840So you do have this celebration of war and bellicose behavior now.
00:31:21.780And again, I just bring you back when the left believed that the intelligence agencies, the corporations, the military and military industrial complex and the government were opposed to their agenda.
00:31:51.540It was about hating that which they could not get control of.
00:31:54.660And now that they have control of it, using it in an abusive way on people.
00:31:58.160This particular war, I said on the day that it started to great trouble for myself, and I meant it in a very technical academic sense, as people who know me know.
00:32:07.160I was referring to something by John Baudrillard, a postmodern philosopher, but I called it fake war immediately.
00:32:12.280He wrote a book in the 90s, if you don't know, called The Gulf War Did Not Take Place and said that what we believed was a Gulf War was a media and political construction.
00:32:20.720It's not truly what happened, and that's what the intention behind my words were.
00:32:28.500I think that there's something about this war that is a proxy for something else.
00:32:31.640I think that Putin has, for all of his animus against the West, has also disrupted some of the world economic form and globalist plans.
00:32:39.440Maybe he's making agreements with China that are outside of their wheelhouse, their sphere of control, I should say.
00:32:47.060And for whatever reason, it has tremendously upset them.
00:32:50.240And you see, like, with Trudeau in Canada, with Biden here in the United States, with our House of Representatives here in the United States, all across Europe, that this is the biggest thing in the whole world that must be treated like the most important thing in the whole world.
00:33:03.220And since we have literally no reason to trust any of these people anymore, that itself becomes the best evidence that there is something very fishy going on and that what we're being told about is not accurate.
00:33:12.180I think you're right that Putin is a counterweight to the ideas of the World Economic Forum just because he's not complying with the narrative, with the plan, with, you know, join the team.
00:33:26.720And that's not necessarily a reason to support Putin, by the way.
00:33:30.720No, I think he's killing two birds with one stone in his mind, both this Davos globalist whatever and the West, the United States, Canada, Western Europe.
00:33:42.140He's not a fan of any of these as well.
00:33:44.440And if he can kill two birds with one stone, you can picture him with his short little stature sitting back and laughing his KGB laugh while he, you know, schemes out killing two birds with one stone in this regard.
00:33:55.660So I don't think he's a friend of ours, but at the same time, I also do think he's disrupting their agenda rather tremendously.
00:34:01.860There's a bit of a fissure in the World Economic Forum.
00:34:04.580As you correctly say, they are so pro-China, it's shocking.
00:34:08.340They produce all these little video shorts, like a very famous one was, You'll Own Nothing and You'll Be Happy.
00:34:16.620They really are emphasizing eating bugs, which is so gross, I gag every time I see it.
00:34:21.620But most of their little video shorts promote China in some way.
00:34:26.720Obviously, most of them promote getting off fossil fuel in some way, just not for their private jets.
00:34:31.820But there is a divide, I think, between China and some other forces within World Economic Forum.
00:35:39.640George Soros and his Open Society Foundation and the network of foundations under it is the largest one.
00:35:44.960For those of your viewers who don't know, China state actors on Twitter, for example, labeled George Soros a terrorist of the Chinese state.
00:35:55.220So that's probably bad if you were to go to China for him.
00:35:58.360They also literally used the – they said George Soros is a demon.
00:36:02.640So I don't think that the Chinese and George Soros are getting along unless this is some very elaborate theater.
00:36:08.420But from what I understand of Soros, having listened to some amount of his lectures and read some of his writing, is that he does not want the China model.
00:36:17.320He wants an open society, hence the name of his foundation.
00:36:20.000And the Chinese model is a pitfall he sees on the way.
00:36:22.940So that is a gigantic rift within the World Economic Forum.
00:36:26.660Other than Vladimir Putin, I think the next largest center that is actually resisting it is that what we call MAGA,
00:36:34.120or ultra MAGA in the United States, kind of clustered in a small center of power in what's called the Freedom Caucus of the kind of –
00:36:42.120whether it's the federal government or the state governments in the United States, the various states, there's not a gigantic counterweight.
00:36:50.220OPEC could be kind of a wild card in this regard.
00:36:56.300Currently, their objective is aligned, which is break the West.
00:37:01.480And so they have no particular reason to disrupt a system that is designed to break the West.
00:37:07.000And so they are not exactly a counterweight to it.
00:37:10.100I don't think that they are likely to go too far along, but it's difficult to say.
00:37:14.080The Saudis are building Neom, which is that gigantic line, 70-kilometer line-based city, one giant building, skyscraper, 70 kilometers long.
00:37:23.620It's supposed to be where everybody in the desert lives, and it's a super smart city, and eat the bugs, and live in your little pod, and all of this nonsense.
00:37:31.420The city of the future, the highly connected internet city that looks like something out of the Fifth Element movie, some dystopia.
00:37:38.760So it's difficult to make a guess about them.
00:37:40.800The only true power centers that seem to be disrupting them are, again, Putin, who is not West-friendly, though.
00:37:48.800And increasingly, the so-called Make America Great Again conservative populist contingent in the United States.
00:37:58.180Though I just saw some things this morning that I haven't fully digested and don't fully comprehend that the French have moved on into the kind of conservative populist French have moved into quite an aggressive stance on many of these issues.
00:38:10.940So what you're seeing is more of a revolt against the people, or by the people, against the elites.
00:38:17.420And that's what Davos warned about last year going into the meeting.
00:38:20.560They were on video saying, you know, the elites trust each other more and more.
00:38:24.860And the problem is the people trust the elites less and less.
00:38:28.240And I think that that has not recovered, but has, in fact, accelerated in the months since they said that last year.
00:38:34.260Yeah. Well, that's their focus on misinformation and online harms.
00:38:41.640And in Canada, there are no less than four pieces of legislation either in the parliament or on their way to parliament to censor the internet.
00:38:49.700Because those little people, they just keep thinking the wrong things and saying the wrong things.
00:39:29.420Well, I think you should come to Canada because it wouldn't likely be the police who would arrest you in an imminent way.
00:39:36.920It would be more sort of like what they're doing to Jordan Peterson, like a slow administrative thing that you would easily escape by going back down to the First Amendment jurisdiction.
00:40:16.640And they actually canceled that one out of the three.
00:40:21.040But the national discussion Ann Coulter sparked about cancel culture and deplatforming and free speech was such a welcome change for the country.
00:40:31.060I don't know if you would provoke the same outrage that Ann Coulter did because she generates a certain kind of hate that I don't quite think you achieved yet.
00:40:39.900But if my opinion means anything, I think you should come to Canada and test the system and see what you can do and document it.
00:40:49.780And I don't think that you would be jailed.
00:40:52.240I think that you might be ticketed or they might send you some whiny complaint later.
00:40:57.160But I think you would easily elude them.
00:41:34.160And I'm sure even with those problems and restrictions, we will do more journalism than anyone else because no one else there is going to do journalism.
00:41:44.020They're all going to be on the inside.
00:41:45.960Dr. James Lindsay, pleasure to see you.
00:41:48.200Give us a quick update just before we go of what you're up to and the best place to watch you.
00:42:00.940I just recently published a new book called The Marxification of Education that explains how they've stolen education from our children and our societies.
00:42:10.640You can get that at Marxification.com or on the thing that Jeff Bezos owns if you want.