Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Quebec moves to ban public prayer, fails to confront Islamic extremism

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Big show today. I've got two exciting things I want to tell you about.

00:00:04.360 The first is I went to a peer poly of a press conference today. I put a question to him and

00:00:08.900 I got an interesting answer. I want to show you the whole back and forth. But first, I want to

00:00:13.380 tell you about a proposed bill in Quebec that would ban praying in public places. Now, what

00:00:20.160 are they worried about? Are they worried about the Amish again or Quakers? Are they worried about 0.54

00:00:25.260 Hindus? Oh, you know what they're worried about. Hamas protesters praying outside the Catholic 0.98

00:00:30.940 Basilica. I'll tell you how this proposed bill came about and why I think it's not going to work.

00:00:36.680 But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the

00:00:40.040 video version of this podcast. I want you to see the videos that our reporter Alexa Lavoie did from 0.53

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00:01:30.580 Tonight, our coverage of Hamas protests outside of Quebec Church shamed that province into action,

00:01:51.740 but is it the right action? It's August 29th and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:56.160 We're ready for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:02:11.460 Hey, I want to talk to you about what's happening in Quebec. And I think it's really

00:02:15.060 a direct result of our news coverage there by our star in Montreal, Alexa Lavoie. But please do stick

00:02:21.560 around after that because I had a question that I put to Pierre Polyev today at a news conference.

00:02:26.700 And I thought the question was interesting, if I may say so myself. And the answer was interesting

00:02:31.160 too. So please stick around for that. I know you would anyways. But I want to talk to you about

00:02:35.840 Quebec. And it's an interesting place. And we really didn't do a lot of work there as Rebel News

00:02:41.000 until a couple of years ago when we hired Alexa Lavoie. She's got to be one of the bravest journalists 1.00

00:02:46.140 at Rebel News. It is such an uphill battle to fight for freedom in Quebec, but she does it so

00:02:51.240 courageously in English and in French. I think she's really made a difference. In fact, I know

00:02:55.860 she does. That's what today's story is about. Quebec, especially Montreal, I think has a worse

00:03:01.820 media culture than even the rest of Canada, than even Toronto or Ottawa, if you can believe it.

00:03:08.140 I think the media there are more obedient to power. They're more clubby and clicky. It's a smaller

00:03:16.360 pond. We saw this during COVID times when we sent our journalists to Montreal to do journalism during

00:03:23.480 the curfew at night. You might remember that Quebec actually brought in a curfew for adults.

00:03:28.520 Whether you were sick or healthy, whether you were jabbed or not, you had to be at home by 10 p.m.

00:03:34.920 Now, there was an exemption for journalists, bizarrely, so we took that exemption and we went

00:03:39.960 on the streets and we were the only journalists who did that. Not a single other Montreal journalist

00:03:47.240 had any curiosity or had any non-conformity saying, well, let me go out and see what it's like.

00:03:52.820 Like, they were just so obedient. It was so weird. We also saw this at the leaders' debates

00:03:58.220 in Montreal. That's where, in the last general election, all the journalists were gathered together

00:04:03.940 in Montreal, the CBC headquarters actually, to see their reaction to rebel news. It wasn't so much

00:04:11.000 that they hated that we were more conservative or whatever. It's that we were different and outsiders

00:04:15.960 and we're not part of their club. It's so tough being a rebel in Quebec, so I salute our Alexa.

00:04:23.260 And by the way, that club, it's not just journalists in the club. The club includes the police and

00:04:28.840 politicians. They're all in it together. Our reporters have been threatened by police. Here

00:04:34.620 they are threatening Alexa just a couple of weeks ago, threatening her with her ass just 0.99

00:04:39.000 and we're ź, thank you for doing journalism. 0.98

00:04:41.540 ...

00:04:48.900 Do you remember telling me that I said my job?

00:04:51.560 It did its 7 hours the end, but if you continue to create this situation, that will be a task.

00:04:57.180 So a increíble situation, because of my job?

00:05:00.760 I'm not joking.

00:05:02.160 I'm not joking.

00:05:03.520 r 가까 BB

00:05:05.660 I was offended by the people who ever –

00:05:07.660 That's your thing.

00:05:08.900 Excusez-moi, on se voit en cours. Je veux avoir ton badge number.

00:05:11.900 Il y a un arrêt pour ça, madame.

00:05:12.900 Il y a un arrêt.

00:05:13.900 Je veux avoir ton badge number.

00:05:14.900 7737.

00:05:15.900 Moi aussi. 0.82

00:05:16.900 519.

00:05:17.900 Votre nom, c'est?

00:05:18.900 Cyber.

00:05:19.900 Allaire.

00:05:20.900 Secto.

00:05:21.900 Allez, allez.

00:05:22.900 Non, parce qu'on va se voir en cours, monsieur.

00:05:24.900 Vous savez que je suis en cours contre vous?

00:05:26.900 Bien oui, oui, oui.

00:05:27.900 Ils vont avoir refusé de nous protéger.

00:05:29.900 Ils vont avoir refusé de nous protéger.

00:05:31.900 Allez sur le trottoir.

00:05:32.900 En ce moment, j'ai le droit d'être ici.

00:05:34.900 C'est un lieu public.

00:05:36.900 Je suis ici.

00:05:37.900 Je m'en fiche, monsieur.

00:05:39.900 Vous ne protégez pas les journalistes?

00:05:41.900 Oui, on le protège là.

00:05:42.900 Non, vous ne l'avez pas vu.

00:05:43.900 Bien oui, vous m'avez empêché de faire mon travail de journaliste.

00:05:46.900 Non, non, non.

00:05:47.900 Tu fais très bien ton travail tout de là.

00:05:48.900 Tu n'as pas besoin d'être un liaison qui a plein de choses.

00:05:50.900 Parce que vous, vous pensez que les prières de rue ne sont pas d'actualité, monsieur.

00:05:54.900 En passant, là, en ce moment, il y a un projet de loi pour bannir ces prières de rue-là, monsieur.

00:05:59.900 On n'est pas sur la même longueur, donc.

00:06:01.900 OK.

00:06:02.900 Vous êtes du côté des musulmans, des islamistes? 0.61

00:06:06.900 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:06:07.900 Police stand by, literally five feet away from Alexa, while she's attacked by Antifa.

00:06:12.900 Antifa and police both hate Rebel News.

00:06:15.900 Take a look.

00:06:16.900 They call it!

00:06:17.900 Rebel News!

00:06:18.900 They call it!

00:06:19.900 Rebel News!

00:06:20.900 They call it!

00:06:21.900 Rebel News!

00:06:22.900 They call this!

00:06:23.900 Rebel News!

00:06:25.900 Bye bye!

00:06:26.900 Bye bye!

00:06:27.900 Police!

00:06:33.560 And the police isn't doing it

00:06:49.020 Hey the police!

00:06:51.020 and i mentioned when we went there during covid the police tried

00:07:20.860 to raid our houseboat we had rented a houseboat airbnb because we had 17 rebels there and that

00:07:27.740 was a cheaper option than getting 17 hotel rooms uh the police tried to raid our place

00:07:32.300 that turned into quite a big thing remember that

00:07:57.020 all of a sudden all of the montreal police 0.97

00:07:59.580 were on us like we had done something come back with a warrant who are these rogue dirty cops 1.00

00:08:06.300 you've got to stop lying my hands you gotta watch you gotta stop lying you wicked liar 1.00

00:08:11.420 when montreal police accost our reporters you know what they call us jew media 0.99

00:08:19.980 what who are you sir i'm with rebel news i'm not media jewish

00:08:29.580 who are you sir

00:08:44.940 smashed my head on the police suv

00:08:47.980 they started expanding the police perimeter as if we're like a coveted crime scene

00:09:01.500 they will taser you they have already arrested one of our reporters

00:09:09.260 yeah mondreal is a tough place to be a freedom journalist um but i think the interesting story

00:09:15.820 story i want to talk to you about today is the church there's this big church called the basilica

00:09:20.220 in montreal it's very old it's very gorgeous it really feels like one of the great churches

00:09:25.340 of europe um there's a real catholic history of course to quebec and that was one of the essential

00:09:32.540 challenges between french canada and british north america and when the brits finally won that war in

00:09:39.740 the battle of the plains of abraham i think it was at 1763 um part of the deal of canada was that quebecers

00:09:47.100 got to keep their catholic traditions their churches their schools it was um it was actually a remarkable

00:09:54.380 deal that it to preserve their civil rights as far back as almost 300 years ago that really is quite

00:10:01.100 an accomplishment when you think about it uh but of course those are not the ascendant

00:10:05.420 demographics now depending on whose math you look at montreal is more than 10 percent muslim and of

00:10:11.900 course many muslims are freedom-loving muslims who are just glad to get away from sharia law but 0.99

00:10:18.620 unfortunately many agitators are islamists do support hamas and there's no denying it tens of 0.84

00:10:25.660 thousands of people have marched in support of terrorism so that's really affected the whole

00:10:31.340 province and even the whole country as melanie jolie the former foreign minister said uh it's the

00:10:37.900 demographics if you want to know why she's pro hamas she told tom malcara another uh politician

00:10:44.140 it's the demographics of her own riding um she's not talking about the greeks or the italians or the

00:10:50.620 jews she is talking about islam um and it's very interesting because the city of montreal was sued

00:10:58.780 for actually over a hundred million dollars by protesters who said that the government was too

00:11:06.380 harsh on minorities and palestinians and muslims and pro hamas supporters and the city confessed they

00:11:13.180 basically threw the trial so they it was basically a laundering tens of millions of taxpayers dollars

00:11:20.300 from the city to these racial activist groups which was a huge payment to them but it was also a

00:11:28.460 message the police do not stop the pro hamas protesters it was an incredible thing that has

00:11:34.140 not been reported on i've that i've seen in english canada let me say that again a bunch of pro hamas

00:11:39.820 protesters sued the government of montreal which basically settled like they admitted they said you're

00:11:47.180 right we were racist whoa i guess we have to send tens of millions of dollars to all the radical

00:11:52.860 activists in the city gee that worked out well it's basically money laundering um from the city to

00:11:59.020 these activists so they they don't want to hear the other point of view they don't want to hear the

00:12:03.340 pro canada point of view they don't want to hear the anti-hamas point of view they don't want to hear

00:12:07.180 the freedom point of view they didn't want to hear the point of view that was covet skeptical

00:12:12.540 um and and and so they ignore these stories like i said when we went out there to talk about the curfew

00:12:18.540 there were no other reporters on the street uh in fact police were shocked to encounter us they

00:12:23.980 said they had never seen another reporter cover it like ever um and i think these hamas protests that

00:12:31.100 have taken over the streets of montreal just as they've done in ottawa and toronto the mainstream

00:12:36.300 media does not report on them and if they're forced in some way to report on them they support

00:12:42.620 them they whitewash the terrible things that are said but that's what's so interesting about the

00:12:48.540 decision by the pro-hamas protesters to target the most glorious church in the city the great montreal

00:12:57.580 basilica to target it for their pro-hamas protests and then to do something so astonishing so much chutzpah

00:13:05.820 is to have a mass prayer these are hamas protesters right outside the montreal basilica and who covered

00:13:15.020 that that was going on week after week and there were no mainstream media journalists there except

00:13:20.140 our friend alexa lavoie and her videographer guillaume hua let me play for you it's i'm not going to

00:13:26.380 play the whole thing because it's quite long but let me play a couple of minutes for you from one of

00:13:31.100 alexa's many videos down there this one got more than 300 000 views on youtube alone i tell you alexa's

00:13:39.500 coverage on this and other occasions outside the basilica was seen by millions of montrealers and

00:13:46.140 quebecers even if no one from the montreal gazette or other official media were there they watched alexa

00:13:52.060 the two group faced off with montreal for palestine standing for a long time in front of the counter

00:14:09.340 protester they played of course the card of racism and islamophobia while flashing middle fingers

00:14:21.260 the anti-israel protesters seemed surprised and shaken when they saw the counter-protesters waving the

00:14:30.860 quebec flag

00:14:37.260 ous but i think that we have a right choice to треть the

00:14:57.040 I'm sorry.

00:14:58.040 I'm sorry.

00:14:59.040 No, I'm a journalist and I'm a right.

00:15:01.040 I'm just filming.

00:15:02.040 I'm just filming.

00:15:04.040 I'm just filming and I'm just filming.

00:15:07.040 I was just filming.

00:15:08.040 I was so close to them.

00:15:10.040 I was not filming.

00:15:12.040 I was not filming.

00:15:14.040 I'm just doing well.

00:15:16.040 I'm correct.

00:15:17.040 You've only done a périmètre?

00:15:18.040 I'm just here with your colleagues.

00:15:20.040 We left it in the room.

00:15:21.040 I'm not a colleague.

00:15:22.040 Don't touch me.

00:15:23.040 You haven't got me to touch.

00:15:24.040 You're not gonna touch me.

00:15:25.040 Arrêtez, vous m'agressez quand vous touchez!

00:15:27.040 Non, vous agressez pas, je veux du tout avec vous!

00:15:29.040 Arrêtez, vous venez me vous demander!

00:15:55.040 Sous-titrage ST' 501

00:16:26.040 Alexa kept going back again and again. Here's another clip of that. 0.70

00:16:30.040 I love you!

00:16:35.040 I love you!

00:16:40.040 I love you!

00:16:42.040 I love you!

00:16:43.040 I love you!

00:16:45.040 I love you!

00:16:47.040 I love you!

00:16:48.040 I love you!

00:16:50.040 What are you doing!? Not touch me!

00:16:52.040 I love you!

00:16:53.040 I love you!

00:17:02.040 There are other places in Montreal that have been taken over by migrants as well. 0.80

00:17:28.740 Alexa covered some of that, including, for example, swimming pools.

00:17:32.440 New, it's not really new, but this phenomenon increasing with the fact that we receive a massive new immigrant here in Quebec and in Canada.

00:17:43.440 I wouldn't say so. I don't think there's a correlation between race and like that movement, no.

00:17:49.440 But I know that in Europe, this problem has been for decades. It's important to say no. 0.74

00:17:55.440 Quebec and Canada, it's a very open culture, but there are things to say no.

00:18:00.640 It's not racist to say no to certain things.

00:18:03.640 And I would like to say that the feminists, the feminists, they say enough to that. 1.00

00:18:08.640 They have a double standard where they would say that it's like, oh, no,

00:18:11.940 we can't talk about that because it's racist.

00:18:14.440 I don't have fear to denounce. I think people have been a lot recognized by the fear of being racist or intolerant, but it's not a matter of racism or intolerance. It's zero tolerance for everyone to act like that.

00:18:33.440 Mass immigration has brought many challenges, and what I'm about to show you is one of the most concerning. Women and children no longer feel safe. 0.99

00:18:45.440 Incidents of staring, groping, and inappropriate behavior have been reported multiple times right here in Montreal's public swimming pools.

00:18:56.440 Now, let me say a few things about prayer. I believe that everyone should have the right to pray, a Jew in a synagogue, a Christian in a church, a Muslim in a mosque.

00:19:05.440 There are close to 100 mosques in the Montreal area. There's no shortage of places to pray.

00:19:12.440 But to pray on a public square or in a public street outside the Catholic Basilica is not about religious expression. It's about power. It's about dominance. It's about taking over territory, dominating public places, and violating any number of rules against public gatherings without a permit, blocking the street, blocking the sidewalk, and basically daring the police to push them away.

00:19:42.440 Lest they get hit with another multimillion-dollar lawsuit. This is about changing the feeling about who's in control.

00:19:51.440 The police are no longer in control. The politicians are not. The Hamas street mob is. 1.00

00:19:56.440 By the way, they do the same thing in Toronto all the time. In fact, when David Menzies was simply on the street reporting on one of these street prayers, which, you know, it's a fake thing.

00:20:08.440 They just say it's a prayer because they want to give themselves a kind of political bulletproof armor.

00:20:14.440 It was David who was arrested just for standing there. Remember that?

00:20:26.440 What is going on now?

00:20:27.440 What's the problem?

00:20:28.440 Guys, guys, guys, excuse me. We're trying to put him behind.

00:20:31.440 Hey, hey, hey, that's my guy. That's my guy.

00:20:33.440 I tell you, I keep saying, if only the trucker convoy in 2022 had just flown the Hamas flag or Warren Kefias, they would still be there. 0.91

00:20:49.440 be there. Three years later, the police wouldn't do a thing. Maybe the police would bring them

00:20:52.960 hot coffee and donuts. But that's the thing about independent journalists like Alexa. 1.00

00:20:58.820 Just because the CBC and Le Devoir and La Presse and the Gazette don't cover something as astonishing

00:21:04.260 as Hamas protesters outside a Catholic basilica. I mean, by the way, I hope it doesn't get burnt

00:21:10.680 like the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. And if it does, God forbid, may it never happen.

00:21:16.000 And hopefully the government doesn't rule out arson and terrorism before even doing an

00:21:21.220 investigation. But when you have Hamas protesters outside a church, it's time to put in surveillance 0.95

00:21:26.680 cameras and a few more fire extinguishers, don't you think? Anyways, who cares about the regime media?

00:21:32.120 Because between all of Alexa's videos on the subject, millions of views were seen by Quebecers

00:21:38.880 about what was going on in English and in French. And so it was that Quebec actually ran out of

00:21:44.480 patience with the Hamas protesters. They didn't quite have the courage to say it, but it was 0.70

00:21:48.120 Alexa's coverage. That's not just my opinion. Other public personalities in Quebec, like

00:21:53.260 Dimitri Soudis and Eric Duem, the leader of the Conservative Party in Quebec, noted in tweets that

00:21:59.560 it was Alexa Lavoie's work which raised the issue. The information got out. And even though Quebec is 0.61

00:22:06.640 further down the road of political correctness than pretty much anywhere else in Canada, other than

00:22:11.040 Mississauga or Hamasasaga as I call it now. Remember that girl with the AK-47 earrings?

00:22:18.040 Hamas is not a terrorist group. First of all, Hamas is not a terrorist group.

00:22:25.040 Hamas is not a terrorist group.

00:22:26.820 What is it? Like a motorcycle club?

00:22:28.820 It is a resistance that has been fuming for 75 years of colonialism, of occupation, of murder,

00:22:36.820 of rape, of little children, of women. That's what they are. They are a resistance.

00:22:41.820 Do you think Canada is a colonialist country too? Everything that they do is justified.

00:22:46.320 Including what happened last week? Every single thing they have done is justified.

00:22:50.600 Yeah, so even though the rest of the media doesn't want to talk about it, and polite society

00:22:55.700 doesn't want to talk about it, and the demographics say you don't want to talk about it, Alexa Lavoie

00:23:00.140 allowed Montrealers to talk about it. And so look at the news in the newspapers today.

00:23:04.820 Here's the CBC, their headline, Quebec plans to table bill banning prayer in public. The proliferation

00:23:13.200 of street prayer is a serious and sensitive issue, minister says. Let me read a little bit from the

00:23:19.580 story. The Quebec government intends to present a bill banning prayer in public. Secularism minister

00:23:25.460 Jean-Francois Roberge said in a statement Thursday that, quote, the proliferation of street prayer is a

00:23:32.220 serious and sensitive issue. The premier of Quebec has given me the mandate to strengthen secularism,

00:23:37.080 and I am determined to fulfill this mandate diligently, he said. Quote, this fall, we will

00:23:42.300 therefore introduce a bill to strengthen secularism in Quebec, in particular by banning street prayers.

00:23:49.060 But my friends, this is a second-degree solution to the problem, an indirect solution aimed at an

00:23:56.220 indirect manifestation of the problem. What I mean by that is the problem is actually not

00:24:01.960 all that praying in the streets. I mean, that is a problem, yeah. But the problem is,

00:24:06.720 that's more a symptom than the problem. Do you know what I'm getting at? The problem are the people

00:24:13.160 themselves. They're Islamists. I'm using that word differently than Muslim. A Muslim is someone who 1.00

00:24:19.660 follows the Islamic faith. An Islamist is a political weaponization of Islam, sometimes including with 1.00

00:24:28.040 violence. They're weaponizing Islam to attack the institutions of the state, and in this case, 1.00

00:24:34.240 the institutions of the Catholic Church. Not all Muslims do. You could see in Alexa's coverage, 1.00

00:24:39.420 many of the counter-protesters against Hamas were actually secular Muslims who hate the Islamists.

00:24:45.860 The problem is not the prayer outside the basilica. That's the symptom. The problem is mass immigration. 1.00

00:24:57.200 The problem is no integration into Canada or Quebec. The problem is they were told they could keep their

00:25:04.680 foreign ways, including being un-Canadian and bringing their old bigotries with them, bigotry against the Jews, 0.73

00:25:11.360 bigotry against the Christians. If you bring in two million people a year, every year to Canada,

00:25:18.800 which is what Trudeau and Carney have been doing, you're not going to be able to solve this problem

00:25:23.300 by going after secondary issues like, oh, whether it's halal butchers or praying on the street.

00:25:31.220 You're not going to be able to stop it. And by the way, we've seen this before. If you bring in

00:25:37.560 laws to solve a secondary problem, for example, hate speech against Jews, let's say, which is

00:25:44.260 happening a lot, hate speech targeting Christians, hate speech targeting Jews, if you say that's what

00:25:51.060 we're going to do, those laws are going to be used by Islamists to target Christians and Jews.

00:25:58.860 And that's how I think this rule against public praying will be used. There are occasional Jewish 1.00

00:26:05.820 and Catholic parades in Montreal. I can't think of a Jewish parade, but I'm sure there is occasional

00:26:11.920 praying in a park or something. I don't know. And I know there are some official Catholic events, including

00:26:17.840 a parade. Would those now be banned after centuries of the French Catholic fact in Quebec?

00:26:24.340 After the Treaty of the Plains of Abraham, where they came to an agreement that Catholics would 1.00

00:26:33.380 retain their religious rights? Are we going to end centuries of Catholic expression in Quebec so that 0.78

00:26:42.960 we can try to stop Islamist expression? How about deal with the Islamists themselves instead of trying 1.00

00:26:50.380 to put a band-aid on one of the problems caused by them? There is no other group that is causing this

00:26:56.560 problem that's going outside the Basilica regularly disrupting the public on purpose. Stop trying to say

00:27:04.160 this is about laicism. That's the word they use in French to talk about the opposite of religiosity.

00:27:11.260 This is not about secularism. It's not about all religions. It's about stopping one particular 0.94

00:27:18.980 political religious force. But Melanie Jolie points out they've got the demographics.

00:27:25.880 Look, here's my thoughts about this Quebec ban. It came about because Alexa Lavoie showed what was 0.99

00:27:32.760 happening on the street where the rest of the media wouldn't. But the proposed solution to limit

00:27:39.320 freedom of expression for religious prayer. I know what they're trying to do. It's obvious. They're trying

00:27:45.880 to get these Hamas supporters away from the church. But if they can't even name the problem,

00:27:52.200 they'll never be able to stop it. Stay with me for more from my quick chat with Pierre Polyev today.

00:27:58.640 Ezra Levant for Rebel News. I'm in Brampton, Ontario, at a Pierre Polyev news conference where he's going

00:28:10.800 to roll out his ideas for a castle law. You know what that means. A man's home is his castle. There's

00:28:18.340 been headlines recently about a man from Lindsay, Ontario, named Jeremy McDonald, who was asleep in

00:28:22.880 his home at 3 a.m. when a serial criminal out on bail broke in with a crossbow. Jeremy defended

00:28:30.380 himself. There was an altercation and the intruder was sent to hospital. But Jeremy, the homeowner,

00:28:35.640 was prosecuted. An outrageous event, but all too common in the crime wave that is Canada now.

00:28:41.800 Crime is raging to such a point where people are now demanding the ability to defend themselves in

00:28:47.080 their own homes because they know the law will not defend them. And rightly, Canadians believe that they 1.00

00:28:52.340 need to defend themselves if an intruder, who's probably out on bail for the hundredth time under

00:28:57.960 liberal laws, comes into the house. And frankly, they should have the right to defend themselves and their

00:29:02.660 property against an intruder. But it is sad that we've come to a place where people feel the law will not

00:29:08.780 protect them. And Mr. Carney has sent home Canadian MPs while crime, the cost of living, housing costs,

00:29:18.060 immigration are all up while elbows are down. Crimes out of control across Canada. And it's no surprise.

00:29:25.580 There's a combination of things. Mass immigration from low trust societies is part of it. But I think 1.00

00:29:31.780 the anti-police ideology of big city mayors is another part of it. Finally, I think police are afraid if they

00:29:39.740 do the wrong thing, if they overreact, they'll be the ones on trial. I think police have pretty much been

00:29:45.020 ordered to stand down. Trouble is, they were what was standing between crime and citizens. Crime has

00:29:51.660 skyrocketed so much so that Canada now has a higher violent crime rate than the United States with the

00:30:00.580 exception of murder itself. Those are shocking statistics that a generation ago no one would

00:30:05.360 have believed. I think an emblem of where we are now was that Toronto police officer who a few months back

00:30:10.960 gave advice to people who didn't want home invasion robberies and said, just keep your key fob near the

00:30:16.740 front door so that the home invaders don't have to go rummaging around your house. Remember when he

00:30:21.280 said that? Take a look. To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at

00:30:27.260 your front door. Because they're breaking into your home to steal your car. They don't want anything else.

00:30:31.600 A lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them. And they're not toy guns. They're real guns.

00:30:36.260 They're loaded. Yeah, well, ordinary civilians are not built for fighting crime. That's the police's

00:30:42.460 job. But when people do stand up for themselves and defend their homes, they are the ones who were 0.95

00:30:48.440 prosecuted by police. It's as if the government is saying, we won't protect you, but you better not

00:30:53.280 protect yourself. There's been a spate of home invasions. And then there was a case of Jeremy

00:30:58.140 McDonald, the man from Lindsay, Ontario, who decided he wasn't going to wait around for police. He was going to

00:31:03.900 save himself from a 3 a.m. home invasion. You just mentioned the incident in Lindsay, Ontario,

00:31:10.180 and you posted about it on social media earlier this week. Do you think Canada needs a castle law

00:31:15.420 or a castle doctrine on the books to shield homeowners from facing criminal prosecution,

00:31:20.920 like the gentleman in Lindsay, Ontario, for defending their loved ones and properties during the break-in?

00:31:26.820 The law needs to be clear that if someone comes into your house uninvited to steal your property or

00:31:34.560 harm your family, you need to do what is, you need to be able to do whatever is necessary to stop them.

00:31:40.340 Let's go listen to Pierre Paulyev and see if we can ask him a question or two.

00:31:45.100 Based on the principle that your home is your castle, we're calling on the government to introduce

00:31:51.140 and immediately pass the stand on guard law, failing which one of our party's MPs will put forward such

00:32:00.200 a bill. It will amend section 34.2 of the criminal code, which right now says that you can defend

00:32:09.240 yourself based on nine very complicated and vague conditions. Now look, if you're defending your house,

00:32:17.720 you don't have time to think through nine different conditions. You have one condition to protect

00:32:23.880 yourself and your kids. And it is wrong for the law, for the police, and for judges to apply a complicated,

00:32:31.840 indecipherable legal doctrine against you when you are only doing what is right. Our amendment

00:32:38.780 instead will change section 34.2 of the criminal code to say that the use of force, including lethal

00:32:48.460 force, is presumed reasonable against an individual who unlawfully enters a house and poses a threat

00:32:58.100 to the safety of anyone inside. The proposed amendment is reasonable and prudent. It applies only to the

00:33:05.860 unlawful entry of a home and preserves proportionality. Simply put, it means you have the right to use

00:33:13.140 force to defend your home and your family against someone who threatens you and who has entered

00:33:19.220 illegally. This bill will also put Canada in line with other developed civilized countries. Ireland,

00:33:28.140 several Australian states, Spain, the United Kingdom, and some American states already have

00:33:36.740 this principle embedded. And it will make sure that Canadians are treated right for a change.

00:33:43.440 We think that our role in this parliament is to put forward good ideas. And so my message to Mr. Carney

00:33:49.080 is steal our best ideas. Work with us. Let's get it done. Let's put our country first. Who cares who

00:33:55.960 gets the credit? Take our ideas so that we can reverse not only the crime and chaos liberals have

00:34:03.660 caused, but let's also take these ideas to bring the cost of living, immigration, and unemployment

00:34:11.360 down. Keep our people safe. Let's put our country first. Let's once again work together, all of us from

00:34:20.000 all parties to make this a country where everyone who works hard gets a beautiful house in a safe

00:34:27.860 street with good food on the table, united under our proud Canadian flag. Thank you very much.

00:34:36.040 Oh, thank you. Yes, Ezra.

00:34:39.120 Thanks for having me here. Ezra Levant from Rebel News. For years before marijuana was decriminalized,

00:34:46.020 it was the position of police and prosecution not to charge anyone with small amounts in possession.

00:34:53.400 So they didn't wait for the parliament. I see that Mark Carney's favorite premier, Doug Ford,

00:34:59.340 has said he's for the castle law. Did everyone hear about the story in Lindsay? So this criminal that's

00:35:05.080 wanted by the police breaks into this guy's house. This guy gives him a beating and this guy gets charged.

00:35:13.120 Like, and the other guy gets charged. But, like, something is broken. I know if someone breaks into my house

00:35:19.880 or someone else's, you're going to fight for your life. This guy has a weapon. You're going to use any force

00:35:25.660 you possibly can to protect your family. I'm telling you, I know everyone would. I get more calls than anyone

00:35:33.000 in the country. People are done with this. They're absolutely done. They're finished. You should be able to

00:35:40.440 protect your family. When someone's going in there to harm your family and your kids, you should use

00:35:46.420 all resources you possibly can to protect your family. And maybe these criminals will think twice

00:35:51.240 about breaking into someone's home. And other provinces like Alberta have said that, too.

00:35:56.160 Well, if you don't want to get shot or beaten up, don't break into people's houses.

00:36:00.160 Pretty straightforward.

00:36:01.180 Will you call on Doug Ford not to wait for Carney to reconvene Parliament, but rather to issue

00:36:09.560 a statement that there will be no more prosecutions of homeowners who defend their homes just as

00:36:16.400 a matter of policy? Because right now his prosecutors are going after Jeremy McDonald, whose home was

00:36:23.420 invaded in Lindsay, Ontario. And those are provincial prosecutors who are doing that?

00:36:29.700 Yes. Well, I think that's a that's a great idea. I don't I don't know the legal powers that a

00:36:35.580 premier has to to direct the prosecution service site. I would not comment on it, but I would hope

00:36:41.000 prosecutors would stop going after law abiding people who are defending their property. We need

00:36:49.740 prosecutors to go after criminals. Now, as for

00:36:53.560 their ability to do that, I'm not I'm not I've never been a crown prosecutor. So I don't know. We have a crown

00:37:00.440 prosecutor here in Larry Brock. So maybe he can he can jump in on this. But I will say this. We need to

00:37:06.800 change the law. Let's make the law clear. Let's let's let's bring in place the idea that your home is your

00:37:12.540 castle so that no prosecutor, judge or police officer can ever go after someone who is

00:37:19.720 defending their home against an evader who presents a threat. Do you have anything to add Larry

00:37:24.860 prosecutor? This is the prosecutor. Thank you. Thank you, leader. Although crown prosecutors in every

00:37:33.440 province, particularly in Ontario, maintain independence, as long as they can justify that

00:37:39.080 independence, they are still directed policy wise by the Attorney General in this case, the Attorney

00:37:47.000 General of Ontario being Doug Downey. To answer your question, Mr. Levant, Mr. Downey has that ability

00:37:53.900 to perhaps direct crowns in light of what we are doing as a federal level to reflect upon the change

00:38:02.320 in legislation we hope is about to come. So you were the former senior prosecutor. The law is the law, but

00:38:08.260 the government can decide what the legal priorities are for prosecutions. How would it work

00:38:13.820 if a province like Ontario or Alberta decided to take the lead and stop prosecuting

00:38:20.720 homeowners who defend themselves? That's that's a legal thing. That's just a policy decision, right?

00:38:26.600 Well, it is. And I spoke in your response to your question in very general terms, because every case is,

00:38:35.840 as you know, fact specific, right? So that's why I started by saying every assistant crown and crown

00:38:44.620 attorney maintains a degree of independence. And that independence is free of any interference from a

00:38:53.020 crown manager, a crown director, or in this case, all the way to the top of the chain being the Attorney General.

00:39:01.660 So long as the decision made by that crown attorney can be justified by policy and by law.

00:39:10.440 So to answer your question, given the outpouring of concern that a number of people have, a number of police

00:39:18.880 unions are speaking out against this, police associations are speaking out against this, and in this case,

00:39:24.180 Doug Ford is speaking out against this, he has the ability to have that discussion with his minister.

00:39:30.960 And that minister has the ability to direct crowns across the province to really reflect on that decision to continue a prosecution.

00:39:43.960 I find there's a great gulf between what Premier Ford says, he says he stands in solidarity with his homeowner, but it is

00:39:52.740 his domain. The prosecutors and police are within provincial jurisdiction, too. He could, I suppose he could do,

00:40:01.580 he could say, look, unless there's an egregious case, we're just not going to put resources to them. Like, he could change this

00:40:08.380 without waiting for Parliament, right? He can't change the law. But he can change the, he can say it's not in the, my

00:40:15.760 assessment of the public interest of Ontario is we're not going to put resources to... Yeah, and that, but that's not his domain.

00:40:21.860 That's not, that's the Attorney General? That's the domain of the Attorney General flowing down right to the Crown

00:40:27.800 Prosecutor who has carriage of, in this case, the Mackenzie file. You've got to ask yourself two questions, Ezra, as a Crown Attorney,

00:40:35.740 whether it's a shoplifting charge, all the way to a multi-homicide case. Is there a reasonable prospect of a

00:40:45.760 conviction? Is the evidence such that you receive from the Crown that you can produce evidence to the court to

00:40:53.060 establish proof beyond a reasonable doubt? And secondly, and most importantly to your point, is there a public interest in

00:41:01.400 continuing the prosecution? So what I have seen from Crown's across this great country of ours is they have relied on the

00:41:10.840 public interest to discontinue a prosecution involving a homeowner who have defended themselves. But again, it's very case

00:41:20.420 specific. It depends on the circumstances. It depends on the time of the day. It depends on the force that was used, the weapon that was

00:41:30.260 brandished, a whole litany of factors. And that's why Pierre is saying, we don't want a judge to second guess the

00:41:38.840 immediate decisions made by a homeowner. At 3am in the dark. Precisely. But you've literally got seconds to make a decision. And your first

00:41:46.940 instinct is to protect your family. Right, right. Thank you for this education. I know you were in the heart of these decisions as a

00:41:54.260 prosecutor. I was. So I can imagine that this bill that your leader proposes really reflects how it really is for

00:42:03.700 prosecutors. Well, we're seeking to clarify this area. Yeah. So that right now we have a massive gray area when it comes to

00:42:10.500 defensive home and defensive property. We're hoping to make it much more clear, give more confidence to police to lay a charge or not.

00:42:18.260 The nine factors is confusing. But more importantly, I think it signals an intent by the federal government in the hopes that it

00:42:26.260 deters for these individuals to commit this heinous act. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Nice to talk with you.

00:42:33.260 All the best. Okay. Here is Larry Brock, Member of Parliament for Brantford, Brant. Brantford, Brant South, Six Nations.

00:42:39.260 Got it. Thank you very much. That's the name of the district. Well, I'm glad Pierre Polyev and Larry Brock are putting forward that bill to

00:42:45.260 Parliament. But as you can see in my question, I don't think we actually have to wait for Parliament.

00:42:49.260 Provincial premiers can make the public policy decision not to put any resources, not to prosecute or charge people for

00:42:56.260 defending their homes. Remember, that's what happened with marijuana laws decades before it was legalized. 0.93

00:43:02.260 Police simply did not lay charges if you had a modest amount. Maybe they'd make you throw the joint in the gutter or something.

00:43:09.260 Police decided that was not in the public interest to focus on for crime fighting.

00:43:14.260 And I think that Doug Ford has been talking so tough about supporting the victims of home invasions,

00:43:20.260 but he's the one whose prosecutors are going after these people.

00:43:24.260 So let's see what happens. But I felt like today was a good use of my time.

00:43:28.260 It was very nice to be invited to a press conference to put a question that was answered both by the leader of the party

00:43:35.260 and by a criminal justice expert, Larry Brock, the MP. And I think my idea sort of perked their ears up a bit.

00:43:43.260 So I'm glad I came out here today. If you want to join the battle to defend Jeremy McDonald, we're crowdfunding.

00:43:49.260 He's the man in Lindsay, Ontario who had the home invasion. He's the one being charged. He's a man of modest means.

00:43:55.260 Go to savejeremy.com.

00:43:59.260 I'm here in Brampton, Ontario, where Pierre Polyev is talking about home invasions and a castle law.

00:44:05.260 To learn more, go to castlelawnow.com.

00:44:10.260 Well, that's our show for today. Enjoy the long weekend. I'll have a special show for you on Monday.

00:44:16.260 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - August 30, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Quebec moves to ban public prayer, fails to confront Islamic extremism

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