EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel journalists arrive in Switzerland! I’ll show you what they’re doing already
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Summary
Rebel journalists arrive in Davos, Switzerland, to cover the World Economic Forum and the World Health Assembly. But they can't get on planes or trains because of a government edict that bans Canadians from travelling. What will they do there?
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Hello, my rebels. Today, I want to show you what we're up to in Switzerland. I'm sort of jealous
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because I myself am forbidden from getting on an airplane or a train. I'm one of the millions of
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Canadians that is discriminated against our civil liberties being suspended by Justin Trudeau. The
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establishment seems fine with that. But nonetheless, we were able to send six people to Switzerland
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from our other friendly countries, the UK, Australia, and the US, to cover the World Economic
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Forum and the World Health Assembly. I think we're going to do some outstanding journalism. I know
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we are because we already are. Before I get there, I got to say, look, if you're listening to this on
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a podcast, thank you. But you've got to see the video that Avi Amini recorded in Davos this morning.
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I just, you've got to see it with your eyes because you've got to see the police and the soldiers and
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you've got to see the fake storefronts and you've got to see the logos of the media companies.
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It really is a visual moment. So you can do that by getting the video version of this podcast.
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We call it Rebel News Plus. Go to rebelnewsplus.com. Eight bucks a month. That's half the price of
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Netflix. And just click subscribe, rebelnewsplus.com. Click subscribe. Eight bucks a month. You get my
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show every day. And then four weekly shows. So 36 shows a month. And it's not even how many there
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are. It's stuff you just can't find elsewhere. No one else is doing in Davos what we're doing.
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All right. Without further ado, here's today's podcast.
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Tonight, rebel journalists arrive in Switzerland. I'll show you what they're doing already. It's
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May 20th and this is the Esther Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest
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carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only
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thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing is because it's my bloody right
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to do so. You know, I used to travel a lot, not just for work, but there was a year and a half
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when I worked at Sun News in Toronto. My family was in Calgary. I flew back twice a week. I did 200
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flights in a year. I haven't flown at all since the flight ban was imposed, the no-fly list on the
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unvaccinated. And I haven't left the country since before the emergency was declared. I don't know.
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I think if I didn't have the social connection here at the office where I didn't have a family,
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I think I'd go mad. I mean, you can find a lot to do in a city, but even then, Toronto was one of
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the most locked down cities in the country. If I were a single person and if I didn't have a company
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that people felt comfortable coming to work at, I think I might have gone mad. I think a lot of
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people did. I think we won't know for years the mental health damage done. Politicians like to talk
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about mental health. I don't think they believe it. What they did, not just to regular people,
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not just to the single person without a family, lonely and distressed the last two years, but what
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they did to children and teenagers is unacceptable. And I'll never forgive them for that, frankly.
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Canada remains the only country in the world that does not allow people to fly or take a train.
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That might work in a tiny town like, I don't know, Monaco or Vatican City, but it doesn't work in the
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second largest country in the world. It's shocking to me that the establishment does not care. I hear a
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lot of debate about Bill 21 in Quebec. You might remember that was the bill that imposed a secular
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nature on the public service, and you can agree with it or not, but that is regarded as the greatest
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sin in civil liberties in this country. You can see it brought up in the Conservative Party debate.
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How dare you allow this violation of civil liberties, namely that Quebecers don't want
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any religious symbols on government employees at work. I can frankly see both sides of that, but
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to compare that to the fact that six, seven million Canadians are banned from traveling because of a
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government edict that makes no sense scientifically or epidemiologically, and the establishment is fine
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with that is atrocious. I'm pleased to say that in recent weeks, namely since the overthrow of the
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Liberal Erin O'Toole as the party leader, the Conservative Party of Canada is making up for a year of silence on
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the matter, sort of. Melissa Landsman, the transport critic for the party, has raised this no-fly list
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many times in Parliament. I think she's doing a good job on it. Take a look.
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50,000 fans watch the Jays play live. No masks, no mandates. Over 20,000 with standing room only
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to see the Leafs in the playoffs. No masks, no mandates. And thank goodness this government's not
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in charge of sports. The secret public health advice that they are getting seems exclusively focused
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on punishing Canadians who want to fly and see their families or get back to work. So I'll ask again,
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which day will this government end the vindictive mandates?
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very glad to answer this question. There's no secret, Mr. Speaker,
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no secret evidence. Everyone knows that vaccination saves lives. 163,000 lives would have been saved in the
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United States just with Omicron if they had had a higher vaccination rate. In Canada, Mr. Speaker,
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we have been vaccinated to a large number, to a large extent. And that's why we have been successful
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at having one of the lowest rates of death in the world with COVID-19.
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I think it's smart for the Conservatives to lean into this issue. I think it's good for the Conservatives
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to build up bona fides on civil liberties. Someone has to and the left isn't. I think it expands the
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party's base to include people who used to call themselves liberals or even the Democrats or even
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Greens. Anyone who's not jabbed can see a champion now in the Conservative Party. Speaking in a pragmatic
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way, it will help them regain the trust of people who broke off to support Maxime Bernier and the
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People's Party. And I guess most obviously, the Conservative Party can be conservative again.
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That's one of the institutions that has failed us so badly, opposition parties in this country.
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I think it's a disgrace that Canada's courts have not done a thing. You know, Brian Peckford,
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the former premier, in fact, the last surviving premier to sign the Charter of Rights,
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he is a plaintiff amongst many in a lawsuit to challenge the no-fly list. The courts won't hear
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it for months. Why? In the United States, their Supreme Court has issued a half dozen important
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rulings on lockdown laws. Why have our courts failed us? Here at Rebel News, we used to fly a lot.
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We haven't done a lot of flying. I mean, there was no reason to fly. I suppose there were very few
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events. Luckily, we had rebel reporters across the country. And we traveled by truck. It's true.
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During the convoy, we embedded people in the trucker convoy going across the country, Mocha
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Bazirgan and Celine Galas. And also we had reporters from different cities. But events are back in Canada
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now. And most of our staff are still prisoners, really. We're under house arrest. Which brings me to
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the topic of the day. In a resort town called Davos in Switzerland, the World Economic Forum is meeting.
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They, too, haven't met in person for a couple of years. And the same exact days, elsewhere in Sweden,
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in the city of Geneva, the World Health Organization is having its assembly. So, you know, that's the
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UN committee in charge of our health. You know Davos. It's where Justin Trudeau goes to talk about
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what a feminist he is before people laughed at that. Remember this?
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I'm incredibly proud to have a partner in my wife, Sophie, who is extremely committed to women and
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girls' issues. But she took me aside a few months ago and said, okay, it's great that you're engaged and
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modeling to your daughter that you want her in power and everything. But you need to take as much effort
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to talk to your sons, my eight-year-old boy and my two-year-old so little young still, about how he
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treats women and how he is going to be grown up to be a feminist just like dad. And by the way,
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we shouldn't be afraid of the word feminist. Men and women should use it to describe themselves
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Davos has some drama because it really is the titans of the world. I mean, Trudeau was sort of
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there for a bit of humorous effect. He was showing everyone his socks and talking about how feminist he
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was. But there are some masters of the universe who go there. A couple of years ago, George Soros gave a
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keynote address at the World Economic Forum. And I was very interested to see that he saw China as his great
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enemy. And he denounced them in a keynote speech. The social credit system is not yet fully operational,
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but it's clear where it's heading. It will subordinate the fate of the individual to the interests
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of the one-party state in ways unprecedented in history.
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I find the social credit system frightening and abhorrent. Unfortunately, some Chinese find it rather
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attractive because it provides information and services that aren't currently available
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and can also protect law-abiding citizens against enemies of the state.
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China is not the only authoritarian regime in the world, but it's undoubtedly the wealthiest,
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strongest and most developed in machine learning and artificial intelligence. This makes Xi Jinping the
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most dangerous opponent of those who believe in the concept of open society. But Xi isn't alone.
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Well, George Soros is a very powerful man. He's the man who broke the Bank of England. He's a billionaire,
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one of the richest men in the world, and certainly one of the most politically active with his money. But
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he's not bigger and tougher and stronger and richer than Xi Jinping. And it comes down to money. It is called
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the World Economic Forum, not the World's Civil Rights Forum. And in fact, it was that Soros lost that
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battle and Xi Jinping became the honored guest of the World Economic Forum. Look at this speech where he was
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their hero. He's the new boss of the World Economic Forum. At least he's their emotional hero. Klaus Schwab remains
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their executive director. But look at this from Xi Jinping.
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The right way forward for humanity is peaceful development and win-win cooperation.
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Different countries and civilizations may prosper together on the basis of respect for each other,
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and seek common ground and win-win outcomes by setting aside differences.
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We should follow the trend of history, work for a stable international order, advocate common values
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of humanity, and build a community with a shared future for mankind. We should choose dialogue over
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confrontation, inclusiveness over exclusion, and stand against all forms of unilateralism, protectionism,
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hegemony, or power politics. China will faithfully fulfill its obligations
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and deepen economic and trade ties with other RCEP parties. China will also continue to work for the
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joining of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Digital
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Economy Partnership Agreement with a view to further integrating into the regional and global economy
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and achieving mutual benefit and win-win results. Well they're meeting again and I want to be there
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and it's the worst people in the world. Here is the president of Pfizer talking about something that
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until this moment if you were to say it people would say you're a nut, you're a conspiracy theorist,
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you're paranoid, namely that there will be a chip implanted in your vaccine. If you were to say that
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that's actually literally one of the things described on the YouTube list of things you can't say.
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They specifically say that if you make a video claiming there's a microchip in a vaccine you will
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have your channel shut down. Well here's the president of Pfizer saying he's going to do that.
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It is a basically biological chip that it is in the tablet and once you take the tablet and dissolves
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into your stomach sends a signal that you took the tablet. So imagine the applications of that
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compliance the insurance companies to know that the medicines that patients should take they do take
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them. It is fascinating what happens in in this field. I don't know does that YouTube video get taken
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down. There's scary people who work for the World Economic Forum year-round obviously Xi Jinping and
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George Soros and Boerlove Pfizer don't but here's someone named Yuval Noah Harari and he's sort of the
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deep thinker of the World Economic Forum and he talks a lot about hacking people, transhumanism,
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where you basically plug into someone's brain and body and can manipulate them. He calls it hacking
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...regimes but also by democratic governments. The U.S. for example is building a global surveillance system
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while my home country of Israel is trying to build a total surveillance regime in the West Bank.
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to do something even more radical than just build digital dictatorships.
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...by hacking organisms elites may gain the power to re-engineer the future of life itself because
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once you can hack something you can usually also engineer it.
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He really is like the mini me to Klaus Schwab. Who's Klaus Schwab? Well here's a little trailer we made for
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a docu-series that we're rolling out tonight. Watch a little bit about this. Klaus Schwab is the star of this.
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The effect will be much similar to World War and actually all countries in the world are affected.
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We can reshape the world in ways we couldn't before.
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Ways that better address so many of the challenges we face.
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And that's why so many are calling for a great reset.
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Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon.
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Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon.
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You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. It's a phrase you've probably heard over the last couple of years.
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He really does come across as a Bond supervillain. Like it really is too much, isn't it?
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But these are the people who say you will own nothing and be happy.
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They're the ones who say eat the bugs. Eat meat made by a machine. They really do say this.
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So that's a World Economic Forum going on in Davos. A train ride away is the World Health Assembly. That's the
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World Health Organization of the United Nations. It's one of their major agencies.
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Have you read about that treaty in the Global Mail, the Toronto Star, in your local daily newspaper on the CBCC TV?
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It really is a treaty. Here, you can see it here. This is from the World Health Organization's website.
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Why aren't they talking about it? Who's going to cover that?
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Do you think the media I've just listed are going to cover that? Why?
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They're all on the take for Justin Trudeau. They're not going to do anything that will embarrass him.
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We will cover it like we have covered the United Nations in the past.
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What's so interesting is the media who like to say they speak truth to power,
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like to envisage themselves as some sort of official opposition, they have ceased taking that role.
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They stopped when the pandemic began. They don't hold the government to account.
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We do, even when we're banned from going to events. Like I say, the World Health Organization
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is part of the UN. I want to show you how our own Sheila Gunn-Reed did journalism from UN events,
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talking about things that you're not supposed to talk about. Here she is at Marrakech. Just take a
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look at this. The COP22 UN Climate Conference is underway and myself and the rest of the rebel team
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are just settling in here to Marrakech, Morocco to bring you a week full of coverage that you know
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you won't see or hear anywhere else in the mainstream media. And even though we aren't even
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inside the conference center yet, we are already hard at work. Now everywhere in this
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city are these massive signs and banners proclaiming the presence of COP22. And these signs,
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well, they're obviously headed for the trash after this conference wraps up in just a week. It's just a
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big fancy disposable show for the world that goes in the garbage can when all the rich elites go back to
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wherever they came from. And all day there were rich people in nice cars, SUVs actually, coming and going
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from the conference center site. And the conference center site itself is, well, it's completely
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astroturfed. In the middle of this old world city with North African architecture is this big fake
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plastic tarped complex manned by UN guards. And completely unironically, the conference center
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itself is directly under the flight path to the airport. The globalist elites, well, they're going to have a
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hard time ignoring that fossil fuels are the reason that they got here and fossil fuels will be the
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reason that they get home with that constant reminder overhead. But rest assured, we know these
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elites well. These climate conferences are generally held in warm climates or luxurious places that you'd
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want to travel to. Last year it was Paris. They've been held recently in Lima, Peru, Durban, South Africa,
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and even Cancun, Mexico. They never hold these fancy shindigs in places like Red Deer, Alberta or
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Timmins, Ontario or Hay River, Northwest Territories. Those are the places where real people will pay the
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price for the policies being written here by people they didn't elect this week. We've only been here a
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few hours, but something just seems so fake about all of this. The fake parking lot for the SUVs, the fake
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signs all over town, the fake buildings behind a big fake wall. It feels as fake as the real motivations for this
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conference. Fake as in these elites will tell you that they care about climate change, but what they
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really care about is control over you. Now we're going to show you the fossil-fueled hypocrisy of this
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conference and the deep pockets behind all the delegates and all the activists here on the ground. And we want to
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show you the real Marrakesh, the regular everyday people who are living in the shadow of this opulent
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conference of globalist overlords that's taking over their city for the next week. Now we fought hard at
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the rebel against UN censorship to get our team here. And one of our team members, our producer, Megan McSween,
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well she's still not accredited for the conference. But that isn't going to stop us, it won't stop us.
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We've figured out a way here on the ground to work together, but still be apart. We're going to show
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you what really happens at these UN climate conferences, not what they want you to see.
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For the rebel.media, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed. Oh I love that. Here's Sheila at another UN convention
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on global warming also pointing out the diesel fire generators. Remember this? Here on the ground in
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Katowice, Poland at the United Nations UN climate change conference. And for the second year in a
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row, the diesel powered frost fighters have made another appearance. Now these little tarp structures
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behind us, it's, I think they are an emergency services temporary sort of little setup here,
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but they're being heated by diesel or kerosene powered frost fighters because it's cold in Poland.
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And I think even the UN acknowledges that. For the rebel.media, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed.
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Well that's our style. And like I say, we can travel again. Well not we, because we implies
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I'm part of the we. No, I can't travel again. And actually a lot of our staff in Canada can't travel.
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But our staff from around the world can because they don't have no fly zones in Australia or the
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United Kingdom or the United States. And so some of our best rebels, not from Canada but from elsewhere
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in the world, have gone to Davos and are going to Geneva. And I want to show you a wonderful video
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from the first of our team to land. Abiyamini, our chief Australia correspondent and the two-time
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winner of the Viewers Choice Award. Let me show you a great video he made with another independent
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journalist we flew in from Australia named Rakshan Fernando, who's been another critic, a citizen
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journalist of the lockdowns. I'm going to play this in full for you. It's about four minutes.
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G'day ladies and gentlemen from the Swiss capital of Zurich. We're here now on our way into Davos.
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Yes, we're doing that in an election week. Yeah, I mean I was actually torn about coming here
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while the election is happening. But we had a chat and we thought, you know what, this is where the
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people who actually set the agenda, despite whoever wins the election in Australia, the agenda for what
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happens in Australia and many of the countries around the world is set here. So we're going to let the
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mainstream media focus on the election results. We're going to let the other great alternative
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media in Australia do the live streams. We're here to bring you the other side of the story
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from the World Economic Forum and the WHO meeting. But none of this is possible without your help. So
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wefreports.com. We're doing it budget, but it still costs a lot of money. So anything you can chip in
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to help make this possible, we are forever grateful. We'll just get one way, one way, one way.
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One way. So you don't return? We hopefully never come back. No, I'm joking.
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Okay. How many persons? Two. But he's a child, so it's maybe cheaper.
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No, I'm not helping. You travel first or second class? The lowest class you have. What's the difference
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in price? I check. You have any reductions? What do you mean? Reduction cards in Switzerland or no?
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First time here. First time here. But if you give me a reduction, maybe I'll come back.
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Unlike those who are coming here to preach climate responsibility
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in their jets and private limos, this is how we're getting around.
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I can't believe $106 each to get there. Yeah. That's just one of them.
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That's a very expensive franchise. It's just mental because that's economy.
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I think it's worth it. Remember the last straw, I reckon, and I think that makes this whole thing
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worth it above just the World Economic Forum is a fact that at the same time here, the WHO is
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essentially meeting to take control of even Australia. Yeah. I mean, how hard has it been
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for us over the last two years dealing with our state governments and our federal governments
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and to think now that we have a worldwide body, these organizations, you know, these NGOs,
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in an essence, running our lives, calling the shots. They want to consolidate power. That's what
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this is about. And that's why I think it is so worth us being here. And if you agree, check out all the
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reports at wefreports.com and consider chucking a few bucks. This is just one trip, $106 Australian each.
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One way. So none of this is possible without your generosity. We're traveling economy. We're not
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taking limos, flying jets. We are doing it ghetto. We're staying in little rooms or an Airbnb together
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with the other guys. But all of that is just, it wouldn't be possible without your support.
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WF reports.com. Chuck in a few bucks and we'll bring you the other side of the story
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from Switzerland. Rukshan, Rebel News. This is exciting stuff. Thanks for your support.
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I mean, my main feeling is, boy, I wish I was there. But my immediate second feeling is I'm so proud
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of what Rebel News is doing. And I'm so delighted that Avi, with his trademark sense of humor
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and his energy, is there in Davos today. Take a look at this. Avi got there a little early because
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him and Rukshan wanted to get over the jet lag because coming all the way from Australia, you
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could imagine. So they got there a little earlier than they were supposed to get there
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because they were still setting up this fake town of Davos. It's like a movie set they were building.
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Take a look. So here we are, Avi. This is it. In Davos. What is it taking us? What day is it today?
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It's the third day, I think. So it's taking us three whole days.
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If you're ever in doubt as to whether the mainstream media is going to
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actually ask the tough questions, I think that gives you the answer. They're part of it.
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Yeah. They're literally a part of it. Oh, the purveyors of misinformation there.
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As you can see, the security is really ramping up behind us. In the lead up
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to the annual meeting here in Davos. Military everywhere. Police,
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as you can see, converging on this small town in Switzerland.
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So we've got IBM here, virtue signaling. Let's create a better world with a smaller carbon footprint.
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Let's create something that changes everything.
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I wonder what their carbon footprint was just to set this up for a week.
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Such hypocrites. I wonder what their carbon footprint was for the executives to fly into Davos
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on their private jets and their limos and everything they're going to come here with.
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It's all for show. Look at the building. And then look, they've kind of built this fake wall in front
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of it. It's everything here is fake. And I think it's fitting. It's fitting that all their buildings are
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fake because everything about this and them and everything to do with this World Economic Forum is
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fake. Not even the India Lounge? Is the India Lounge fake? 100%. We only believe in the Sri Lanka Lounge.
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Just think about the waste of money and resources going into self-promotion here. But they,
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they justify this though. There's justification for this from that side saying this is necessary to do.
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Now do you reckon Zelensky will make an appearance? He'd be silly not to.
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Come on. How else is he going to win the war against Russia if he doesn't show up to the WEF?
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Isn't that great? Avi is, I tell you, he's punching above his weight. He's doing such good journalism there.
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In addition to Avi and Rukshan, we have Jeremy Lafredo and you've seen him a few times.
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He's the newest rebel. He joined us to cover the U.S. Convoy. So he's coming in from New York City.
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Excuse me. Louis Brackbool, our Brit, who's going to be the host of our docuseries on The Great Reset.
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He's coming in from London. And like I say, we've teamed up with some other journalists who were sort of
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allies of ours in different places because we rented an Airbnb outside of Davos and it had some extra
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rooms. So I said to Sophie Corcoran, a young independent citizen journalist from the UK,
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I said, look, come on over. We'll crowdfund your flight from the UK. You can stay with the
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Airbnb and run with our guys. She's very young. She agreed. And Savannah Hernandez, who's just amazing,
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she was with the Blaze. She now works for Truth Social. She's coming to from Texas. So we've got
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six people all together, half of whom are rebels working for a company and half are sort of friends
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of rebels. And I want to tell you what they're doing. They're not there to chase down conspiracy theories
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because there's a difference between conspiracy theories and conspiracy facts. They're there to
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get the facts. And the thing about a lot of these facts is Klaus Schwab and Yuval Noah Harari,
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they say them to you. They say them out loud. Like this insane statement by Klaus Schwab.
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And I have to say, when I mention our names like Mrs. Merkel, even Vladimir Putin and so on,
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they all have been young global leaders of the World Economic Forum. But what we are very proud of
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now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on,
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that we penetrate the cabinets. So yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau,
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and I know that half of this cabinet or even more half of this cabinet are actually
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young global leaders of the World Economic Forum. Right. And that's true in Argentina too. Wow.
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Yeah. Sorry. That's true in Argentina as well. It's true in Argentina and it's true in France now,
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I mean with the President, who is a young global leader, but... They talk about infiltrating and
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penetrating the world's cabinets. They talk about the Great Reset. It's not a conspiracy theory. It is
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a conspiracy. Listen to them say it. I don't know how it will play out in November, but what we know
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is that we will end up with many more unemployed and particularly also people in the grey economy,
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which are not counted for, who lose their jobs. So we will see definitely a lot of anger
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already now, but probably increase by the end of the year because this crisis will be with us until we
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really have found a remedy. So we have to prepare for a more angry world. And how to prepare? It means to
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take the necessary action to create the fairer world, to see that we provide everybody with decent access to
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the health system, that we make sure that those people who are really left behind, and I'm not
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speaking only on national levels, I'm speaking also internationally. If I see now the tragedy in some of the
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emerging countries like South Africa, like some countries in East Asia, I think it's all, I don't
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have too many remedies. The remedies have to be discussed through dialogue by the stakeholders of
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our global system. But I just see the need for such a dialogue, and I see the need for action. I see the
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need for a great reset. And that creepy phrase, build back better. It's like they're all reading from a
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script. Because they are. Take a look. It's a very pertinent question to ask, how do we build back
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better? To build back better or whatever. We have a chance to reset the clock and build back better than
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before. To build back better than before. Remember the terrible damage of COVID as we try to build back
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from this global pandemic. Joe Biden calls it build back better. Build back better. Building back
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better. To do things differently. To build back better. We're going to build it back better. And
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build it back better. My plan to build back better. Start taking all the problems that have been created
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in education and mental health and start to build back in a positive way. I have launched a booklet
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called Build Back Better. Britain After Coronavirus. It's about building this country back better.
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Growing conspiracy following it. It is called The Great Reset. An unprecedented opportunity
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to rethink and reset the ways in which we live. The great opportunity for reset. The theory even calls
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Mr. Biden's campaign slogan, Build Back Better, a front for the conspiracy. Build back better. Building
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back better our economy. Build back better. All elements of the Great Reset are fundamental to building the
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future we need. The future we need. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset.
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It's a big effort to some would say to build back better. We would say to really have a great reset.
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Conspiracy. Conspiracy. Conspiracy. That's World Economic Forum. But the World Health Organization,
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World A, they're both globalists. I bet there's a lot of cross-pollination. I bet there's helicopters,
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speeding back and forth all the time between these two massive conventions. On the one hand,
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in Geneva, you have the United Nations. So you've got the global government types, the bureaucrats,
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the diplomats. And at the World Economic Forum side in Davos, you've got the oligarchs, the billionaires,
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the celebrities, the mooches and the money guys. Back and forth and back and forth.
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We're going to separate the conspiracy theories from the conspiracies. We're going to do actual reporting for you.
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I'm very proud of the work we've done, even in the first hours, Avi and Rukshan. And our team is making their way now.
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I see our people getting on planes in the different cities. They're all going to meet there.
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I'm very excited about this journalism. I'm just excited that our people are flying again.
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After two years being locked down, I look forward to one day, I hope,
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when I too might be able to join them and the rest of our unvaxxed crew here can fly. But for now,
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let me invite you to go to WEF, World Economic Forum, WEFreports.com. I think it's going to be
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some of the best journalism ever done on the subject. All right, stay with us. Up next,
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Conrad Black talking about the state of conservative politics here in Canada.
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Well, my guest today needs no introduction. Conrad Black, he's been following conservative
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politics and practicing conservative politics and journalism for more than 50 years on both
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sides of the Atlantic. We're lucky to have him in the studio today for a quick catch up.
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Great to see you again. This is an exciting conservative leadership race. I think I can
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say that, especially in the contrast to the two previous ones. I'm talking about the Canadian
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Conservative Party. What do you think? I think it's quite a good group of candidates.
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I think we were all, including some non-conservatives, disappointed that some of the prominent
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possible contenders didn't appear in the last two leadership conventions. They just didn't run.
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And so you've got the impression they weren't necessarily, with no disrespect to the people who
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did run, putting their best people forward. I mean, many people wanted John Charest to run earlier.
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Many wanted John Baird to run. You know, many wanted Jason Kenney, though it was kind of impractical,
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given how recently he'd gone back to Alberta. But I think that all of these candidates are quite
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articulate. And I think there's a bit of variation between all of them. They're not just echoing each
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other. And I think it's been reasonably civil. Not, excuse me, not a lot of mudslinging or that kind
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of thing. It's been a bit of a, not much. And different, different approaches. I mean, Patrick
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Brown, as anyone who follows it knows, is extremely adept at signing up huge numbers of people
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among certain ethnic groups. And he's really making a drive to get his people in as members capable of
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voting. And I wouldn't underestimate what he can do. Jean Charest is a remarkably experienced man,
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a former leader of the federal party, a three-term premier of Quebec with the Liberal Party of Quebec,
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which in, in Quebec, as in British Columbia, as you know, is really a coalition of liberals and
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conservatives. There isn't a conservative party provincially in that province. And so he, you know,
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he's a, he's a well-traveled man without being a worn out old spavined wheel horse, you know. And,
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uh, and of course, Pierre Polyev is an exceptionally fine candidate. He's very articulate. I think he is
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clearly, uh, presenting a genuine conservative viewpoint. They try to, uh, misrepresent him as
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an extremist, which he isn't. And he replies that he's only advocating the liberty of everyone
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to do as much as they can without infringing on the liberty of others. And it's very hard to fight
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that as it should be. And I thought it was a terrible thing when Andrew Scheer, who was a good
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man, but was not a strong campaigner, um, ran unabashedly as a genuine social conservative,
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and they smeared him as someone who would ban abortion and things like this. And, and he wasn't
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really able to stand up to that. But I find Pierre is, uh, I don't know disrespect to Andrew Scheer,
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but he's made of firmer stuff in this way. And he, he does, uh, he does respond very forcefully to his
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critics. And I, I, I, I think it's working. Yeah. I, I heard him, uh, just the other night,
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uh, Pierre Polyev, and I would call it a working class conservatism. And there is such a thing,
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uh, especially when you look at the new democratic party led by Jagmeet Singh, a clothes horse who drives
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a BMW and who's exquisite and cares more about elite, you know, university. An exotic Maharaja.
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You know, I, I mean, there's no working class leader in, in Ottawa. And certainly it isn't Justin,
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no. And, and you're, and it's working class and middle class, I would say manages both,
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but you're, you're right. He's not a kind of aristocratic conservative. And, and so I see the,
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the elite establishment just smashing him. I, but I think that's working for him when
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the global mail editorial page denounces him as dangerous. I think a lot of people say,
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Oh good. I, I want to be a bit of a danger to the global mail editorial page.
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It's a better description of the global mail. Yeah. I agree. Um,
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you mentioned there's not too much, uh, brutal, uh, you know, smears or,
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there is some, but it's not as bad as it is sometimes. I don't think it's bad at all because I
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think, I think it's real. I think if there was a false agreeableness, I like the clash of ideas.
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Let the party have a stark choice. Let the party have a real choice and let it choose a flavor,
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not a blend, you know? No, I agree. Look, the, the conservatives historically since 1917,
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more than a century. And I cite that year because it was that year that effectively the conservative
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government imposed conscription on the French Canadians. And, uh, they, they, so they could
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kiss Quebec goodbye for a long time after that, as Sir Wilfrid Laurier said would happen. But from,
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from then on, the conservatives only have won either because after three or four, even five liberal
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victories, the electorate of this country traditionally thinks we simply have to give the
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other side of chance or in the alternative where they can present a conservative viewpoint and defend
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it from the inevitable avalanche of media and academic opinion, reinforcing partisan opinion,
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that this is harsh and extreme and un-Canadian. And, and, uh, you know, you had, you, you had the,
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uh, the liberals for almost all of the, uh, all of the twenties and one term with Bennett,
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the liberals 22 years, pardon me. And then, uh, six years with Mr. Diefenbaker, the liberals,
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except for a few months with Joe Clark, another, uh, 20, 21 years. And then, then Brian Mulroney came,
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but that if we're going to have a two party system, we, we, we, we've got to change that.
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You've got to start out most elections with the idea that either side can come to bat as they
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do in the United States and Britain. Yeah. Uh, I guess we're almost
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seven years into Trudeau with that passage of time. What are your thoughts from a distance
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of Stephen Harper's term as prime minister? Do you think it looks better now that time has passed?
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Yes. I, and I thought he was a good prime minister. I had me too. I had serious personal differences
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with them and our own relations are don't exist and they're, and they wouldn't be cordial if they
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did exist, but that's for other reasons. I always have said and wrote my history of Canada.
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I never will allow these personal things to get in the light of a judgment of that kind,
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that he was a very good prime minister. And, and by the way, I, I, I had extremely, uh,
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profound disagreement and a rather assiduous one with, uh, Jean Chrétien, but I think he was, uh,
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adequately competent prime minister. I don't think he was exceptionally good. It's always easy.
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He's a manager. He put out fires. He didn't start them. This is right. And, and, and, and it's not
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hard when you, when the official opposition is divided into three parties, but, uh, but, um,
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with that said, he, uh, it was a competent government other than that they almost lost
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as the second referendum. But, uh, but as I say, I, I, whatever I might think of the individual
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prime minister, uh, is completely separate from my historical examination of how they performed.
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And I think Stephen Harper was, uh, in, in that second group, just behind our very best prime
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ministers in the same group with Brian Mulroney, Mr. Saint Laurent and, and Mr. Pearson, very distinguished
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people. So I, I, I agree with you. I think Stephen was, I think he was a very good prime minister.
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I remember when Trudeau was ascending, I remember reading your comments about him and they seemed,
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I'm not going to say that you were endorsing him, but that you were hoping or putting the
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best foot forward or giving him the benefit of the doubt. I was slightly surprised by how friendly
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your assessment of him was in the early days. Justin, Justin Trudeau. And now that with the passage of
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time, how do you feel about him, his team, his philosophy, if he even has one?
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Uh, well, uh, you're, you're right. And how I treated him as he, as he came up,
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that was partly because I've known him since he was very little and I've always liked him. I still
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like him. I think he is actually a very nice man. And that cannot be said to everyone who's ever held
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that position and they're not there necessarily to be nice. And the fact that he is a nice man doesn't
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mean that he's a particularly good prime minister, but I did take that into account. Also, I, I, I was,
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for a variety of reasons, I thought maybe it was a time for change from Harper. He'd become very
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inflexible. And I had the impression that after he cut the sales tax and did a few other things,
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he just had no more ideas. And we had a very long campaign. I assumed because he didn't want
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parliament sitting when, when Mike Duffy testified in that spurious case that was inflicted on him.
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And, and, and, and the, his basic argument was that he wouldn't allow in the, you know, there's
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a tremendous humanitarian crisis in the Middle East at that time. And Stephen said he wouldn't allow in
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half a million Syrians. Well, this was, I thought it was just nonsense. How were half a million Syrians
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going to get here? They'd have to be pretty skilled yachtsmen. And so I, you know, that was my,
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that was my reasoning. And also I thought it was very important that the liberal party come back
00:47:36.140
ahead of the NDP. I didn't like the NDP being as, as large as it was. So that was why I was relatively
00:47:42.940
favorable to Justin. I think he's, and I, I don't, I don't like to say this, but I don't think he's been a
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good prime minister. I think he's sort of ineffectual. And I think all he has to show for seven years
00:47:53.260
is an excessive attention from a mistaken perspective on native issues. He hasn't
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actually improved their condition. He's just aggravated the, the blood libels on English
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and French Canadians for 400 years for supposedly having attempted some form of genocide on them.
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Secondly, he's completely clamped his lips around the gas pipe, not to make a terrible pun on, on,
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on climate matters. He's bought a line that is nonsense and he's declared war on, on, on Alberta and
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Saskatchewan, which is not what prime ministers are to do. They want to conciliate the regions.
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He's been absolutely useless as the official opposition and the NDP have, by the way, on, uh,
00:48:33.420
standing up for minority official cultural rights, especially in Quebec, which is now effectively
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exterminating the English language. I mean, they won't, you can't exterminate the English language,
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but that's what we're trying to do. And I, I think, uh, uh, he also got terribly preoccupied with
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gender issues in a way that was not justified. I mean, look in there are two sexes and people can
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work out their own sexuality for themselves. And as long as they don't resort to coercion or outrage
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reasonable standards of public decency, everyone should do what they like.
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Yeah. I I'd add one more list, uh, one more item to your list, uh, for the, of the family that helped
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to bring back the chart of rights and freedoms. I think Trudeau has been very cavalier with, uh,
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infringing on civil liberties. Look, his father would, if necessary, uh, have, as he did in 1970,
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called out the army to prevent the implementation of Quebec's present bill 96. He would not have
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stood for it. It's an outrage. Well, I'm, I'm thinking more in terms of the lockdowns and,
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and the demonization of unvaccinated people and the flight bans. I quite agree. And there's six
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million Canadians who, for their own reasons, declined to be vaccinated. Can't leave the country.
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I mean, they can't fly in the country. Can't fly within it. You're right. Can't move around within
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it. Yeah. By, by plane. That's right. If they want to go from Vancouver to Montreal, I have to
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drive or take a train. Oh, you can't take a train. I got one last question for you. I appreciate your
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survey of the scene in Canadian politics. I'm riveted by what's going on in the United States. Joe Biden,
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I think is underperforming what even his, uh, critics thought he would do. Yes. Whether it's
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inflation, foreign affairs, open borders, immigration. I, I really think it's a disaster.
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Even the polls show it. Um, Donald Trump is waiting in the wings. Will he run again? Will he not?
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Will Ron DeSantis of Florida throw his hat in the ring? I know you follow American politics too. You
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wrote a book about Trump. If you had to make a prediction for the next couple of years in America,
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who's going to be the standard bearer on the right? Uh, can Joe Biden pull it back? Or is he
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himself going to be thrown out by the Democrats? I don't think they'll throw him out. I, I think,
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I think the party elders may suggest to him that it is time for him to invoke a medical reason and say
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that this doctor said it's really not that it has been since inauguration day, but that the, the, the,
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really, he, he's, he's, it's becoming too challenging for him. And anyone can identify with that. I think
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you'd all get some sympathy for that, including for me, you know, I mean, it's a, it's a, we all know
00:51:12.780
people who become elderly and start to slip in their, in their faculties and, and, uh, you just have to, uh,
00:51:18.780
sympathize with it. But, um, I, there's no, there's no chance in the world that he's going to be
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re-nominated and I don't, I can hardly imagine he would seek to be re-nominated, but, uh, um,
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I, I, I think there might then be an effort because the progressive agenda, so-called,
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has been such an unmitigated disaster to get a moderate Democrat back, man, like say Sherrod Brown
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and Ohio or a number of, I mean, I don't know all the Democratic governors. They must have some
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capable people in that party. And I think that's, I think they'll try and put such a person as that
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ahead of the present Vice President Harris, who's also a disappointment. But I, I, in my opinion,
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uh, Trump is demonstrating that he, he is first in the hearts of the Republican Party and he can have
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the nomination if he wants it. And, and it is almost inconceivable to me after such a disastrous
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administration that, that, uh, the Democrats would be re-elected no matter who their candidate is. So I,
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I think Trump is the likely favorite to be the next president and only the second president
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after Grover Cleveland to have non-consecutive terms.
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Well, interesting times. That's for sure. It's great to catch up with you.
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All right. There you have it. Conrad Black, stay with us. Your Letters to Me next.
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Hey, welcome back. Your Letters to Me, someone with the initials T-C-Z says the conservatives had
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no hope of being re-elected with him as leader. He had no credibility amongst any group at this point
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and had to go. Hopefully with a young, vibrant leading, there is a hope that
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conservatives can now get re-elected. You know, I know you're writing about Jason Kenney because
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that was our long talk the other day, but I was just thinking that could probably apply
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to Aaron O'Toole as well. Except for Aaron O'Toole was in opposition. It's easier to be principled
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when you're in opposition. I mean, you don't actually have to implement anything. You just have
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to really be a good thinker and talker. Aaron O'Toole was a coward in opposition. Jason Kenney
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was atrocious in government and he used the power of the state to enforce a vicious lockdown.
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And whereas Aaron O'Toole just, you know, was a bit of a coward, let's be honest. Jason Kenney was
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worse. He was a coward and a tyrant. I can't believe it because he was so good. He was the hope
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for conservatives for so long. Someone with the nickname Ducky says, I don't understand when people
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call rebel news hard right, when they always criticize conservatives like Kenney and Ford.
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Meanwhile, I'm tired of seeing MSM propping up Trudeau after several disasters he has caused.
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We need some damn accountability. You know, I used to be pretty good friends with Jason Kenney and it
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was hard for me to put that personal friendship aside and talk about him candidly, but I felt like
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I had to or not talk about him at all. And there's no way that a Canadian news organization
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simply can't talk about Jason Kenney, the premier of the province and a serious actor on the stage.
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And there was no way that I was going to lie about what he was doing. And I think it was our duty
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to call it like we see it, just like it's our duty with Doug Ford. And I say this as a guy
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who sat right here. I mean, Doug Ford was right in our building here.
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We had Doug Ford speak at a rebel conference before. We were chummy. I'm not going to say we
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were close, but if you do not criticize your friends when they violate their principles,
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then you yourself are violating your principles, I think. And as I just said about Aaron O'Toole,
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at least when you're in opposition, all you have to do is show a little bit of moral courage.
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You don't have to do anything. I think that's our role here too. We don't actually implement any laws
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here at Rebel News. We actually don't have any real power. If all we are being asked to do is to
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give our honest conservative criticism of the world, then surely we can do that.
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M. Shecky says, Project Veritas is doing something. Top-notch journalism and has a perfect record of
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never being found guilty in the multitude of cases brought against them. Rebel needs some undercover
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work. The libs shouldn't be hard to expose. They're not too bright to say the least.
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Stop. I've had the pleasure of meeting James O'Keefe a few times. He really is excellent.
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I think the chief characteristic for a job like his
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Because you're so excited. You get a little nibble. It's like when you're fishing,
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you get a little nibble on that hook where you got to reel it in. You got to really,
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and you can't panic and you can't break, you know, character.
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I just find it remarkable that these undercover reporters keep a stone face when they are where
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they are. No, they're outstanding. I think undercover journalism is a little bit harder
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to do than it looks. And it sort of does look hard, too. I have nothing but admiration for Project
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Veritas. And who knows? Maybe one day we'll be able to do some of that, too. But it's a special skill.
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Well, that's our show for the week. We will have a show on Monday, holiday Monday. So we'll see you
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then. Until then, let me say goodbye to you. And you keep fighting for freedom over the weekend. But
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let me leave you with this video of the day from Drea Humphrey. It's an update on a case that we
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crowdfunded fighting vaccine passports in British Columbia Court. I'm very proud of this case.
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Drea Humphrey here with Rebel News. And I just got out of day one of what is supposed to be a three-day
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hearing brought forward by the Canadian Society for the Advancements of Science in Public Policy.
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We're going to speak to the Council, Polina Fortula, for the Society and the Plaintiff,
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Kip Warner, in just a few minutes. But I wanted to give you a rundown on what happened in this court.
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If you haven't been up to date with my reports, I've been covering quite closely all four of the
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cases. The first case that was brought forward was brought forward by the Canadian Foundation
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Constitution. Then it was followed by our special dear and near to our hearts case, the Democracy Funds
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case, which Rebel News supporters like yourself generously chipped in to help make happen. And then
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a self-represented man from Victoria, B.C. named Jeremy Maddock took a shot at going at the vaccine
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passports. And now here we are with this challenge. The Honourable Chief Justice Hinkson is presiding over
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all four matters. He's heard a lot of arguments, some of which overlapped, like Chief Medical Health
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Officer Patty Daly from Vancouver Coastal Health basically acknowledging this.
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The vaccine passport requires people to be vaccinated to do certain discretionary activities,
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such as go to restaurants, movies, gyms. Not because these places are high risk. We're not
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actually seeing COVID transmission in these settings. It's really to create an incentive to
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improve our vaccination coverage. Or letters written to UBC by Chief Medical Health Officers,
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as well as their science board at the school, saying that at this time, when it comes to the
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Omicron variant, there really is no scientific reason for discriminating between unvaccinated
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and vaccinated individuals when it comes to restrictions. Now, despite that evidence being
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available, as was brought up into court today, Dr. Bonnie Henry did not drop the vaccine passport
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until April 8th. In fact, British Columbia was the last province to drop their mandate.
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And it's not been too long since their public health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry, promised we'd never
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This virus has shown us that there are inequities in our society that have been exacerbated by this
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pandemic. And there is no way that we will recommend inequities be increased by use of things like
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vaccine passports for services for public access here in British Columbia. And that's my advice. And I've
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got support from the Premier and I have talked about this, Minister Dix and others.
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Now, Justice Hingston has waited and will be reserving judgment until he's heard all of these cases. And like I said,
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this one is possibly a three-day hearing. So lots going to go down. At first, it did seem as though the
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Council was a little bit arguing on the premise of science, which Chief Justice Hingston didn't seem
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to be too fond of. But she quickly switched gears and started to use those examples that I said,
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like from Chief Medical Health Officer and even a quote from Dr. Bonnie Henry, who admitted that when it
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came to hospitalizations for COVID-19, around 60% of them weren't actually there because of the issue
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of COVID-19, but rather for other issues, maybe an injury or maybe a pregnancy for such. So if that's
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the case, were these restrictions, these orders reasonable? And of course, the argument from the
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society is that no, they are not. They are unconstitutional.
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Now, with Omicron, the unvaccinated are a smaller proportion. And partly that's because
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some of the people, a good proportion of people in hospital, and I'll have that data to show you,
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are people who are admitted for other reasons and have a positive COVID test.
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So it's not COVID that's driving them into hospital.
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Unique to this case is that the society had an expert report from the former Public Health Officer
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of Manitoba, Dr. Joel Kettner. Dr. Bonnie Henry's lawyer spent quite a bit of time
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trying to get this report dismissed as expert evidence. Now, it appeared as though the judge
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wasn't having it. He questioned why that should be the case. You'll find more of that out in my tweets,
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and we'll have to wait to see if this report stands for this fight.
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So we're going to have a quick recap with the lawyer to see why this case matters. And if you want
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to catch up on actually words and quotes from both the justice and the councils and the government's
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lawyers on what happened, you can click on my link to my live tweets from the courthouse that are linked
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in the description below. And then you'll have a really good look of what went down for day one in
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court. This is Counsel Polina Fortula. You just stepped out of day one of the case. Why don't you let
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some of the people watching know why this case should matter to Canadians? This case is important
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because what we're challenging is the orders that mandate vaccination passports in order to attend
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public gatherings and events as well as restaurants. And although the mandates have been lifted,
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we do expect there to be further mandates in the fall. So it's important for the court to consider our
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arguments and determine whether the orders are reasonable in the circumstances and whether the
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exemptions that the CSAP society, which brought this proceedings forward, are reasonable.
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And are you guys also addressing some of the health care specific orders as well?
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The health care orders are being addressed in a separate petition.
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This is this one only relates to the vaccination passports for restaurants and events.
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Well, I know just from my coverage on things like this, there wasn't a whole lot of counsel that
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came forward to take on these types of cases. How did this come to be that you took on this case?
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Who's responsible for that and anything else you want to add on that?
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Well, it's really the society CSAP that fundraised the funds necessary to bring these challenges forward.
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It is very expensive to challenge a law or an order by a government official in court. It takes many
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months and it costs thousands of dollars. So most British Columbians, especially with the COVID restrictions,
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can't really afford that. So the public fundraising campaign has been fundamental in ensuring that
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we can challenge these orders. And so we hope that the public continues to be engaged with the society,
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with CSAP, and continue to provide funding just so we can continue to challenge the orders and
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Absolutely. Well, we'll have more on this important court case coming up. This was just day one and
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it might stretch to day three. So we'll keep you posted. Thank you so much.