Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News barred from PM Carney's first media scrum

00:00:00.000 My friends, Mark Carney is selected as your next prime minister, and he appoints his cabinet.

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00:00:37.080 Tonight, Mark Carney is selected as your new prime minister, and you never even got to vote.

00:00:57.900 It's March 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:00.300 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:14.900 Today, Mark Carney was sworn in as Canada's prime minister.

00:01:18.900 He had a press conference.

00:01:20.720 Rebel News was banned from the press conference.

00:01:23.660 It shows you that the Carney prime ministership is off to the same start as the Trudeau one, censoring and silencing opponents.

00:01:32.460 But here's some footage of Mark Carney talking.

00:01:35.920 He was asked a question, and he said, no, no, no, no.

00:01:38.380 I don't want to talk about your questions.

00:01:40.340 The news is standing behind me.

00:01:42.000 No, no, that's not how it works, Mark.

00:01:44.180 You can't say that what I tell you is the news is the news.

00:01:48.480 That's not really how it works in a democracy.

00:01:51.160 The news is the news, and we get to ask whatever questions we want.

00:01:55.440 One of them, which I think was on everyone's mind, is when will there be an election?

00:02:00.520 And, of course, to Mark Carney, who was selected, not elected, that question isn't particularly of concern.

00:02:06.960 He said, well, for sure by November.

00:02:09.040 Take a look.

00:02:09.680 Can I ask you what your plans are for the next few weeks?

00:02:11.800 Are you going to be bringing back the House?

00:02:13.400 Are you going to be calling an early election?

00:02:14.800 And if so, when should Canadians expect to go to the polls?

00:02:16.980 Well, I certainly should expect to go to the polls before November.

00:02:22.020 And the news today is behind me.

00:02:29.480 An exceptional group of individuals who are serving Canada, united, focused cabinet, focused on action, focused on the issues for Canadians.

00:02:38.120 We are, as I said a moment ago, we will be going to take some decisions which directly meet some of the objectives I set out in my remarks and we've been discussing.

00:02:47.920 It's so funny to joke about not having an election for months, having a prime minister that no one voted for, indeed, that no one even knows about.

00:02:57.520 But he did recognize that the media is very important here.

00:03:01.360 And he sent a very blunt message to the CBC that if they do right by him, he'll do right by them.

00:03:07.880 Take a look.

00:03:08.940 I'm complimenting the journalists from Radio Canada.

00:03:13.640 And I would like to compliment the very existence of Radio Canada.

00:03:17.540 And I'd like to reinforce that my government could be reinforcing.

00:03:20.900 It goes back to Canadian identity culture.

00:03:25.860 This is away from the news, but the broader sense. 0.84

00:03:27.880 Yeah, that's pretty gross.

00:03:29.420 Well, here's things that I think are news.

00:03:31.540 I know Mark Carney might not think they're news, but I do.

00:03:34.320 I think that we're dealing with what could be an illegitimate prime minister.

00:03:39.100 I'm not saying it's impossible for someone who has not been elected to anything to be appointed PM.

00:03:45.300 It's very irregular, but it's not illegal.

00:03:47.760 But we don't know anything about the liberal vote that made him leader.

00:03:51.860 I suggest to you that it was, at the very least, questionable, if not fraudulent.

00:03:57.040 We know that the liberals boasted of having nearly 400,000 people register to vote, which is quite a lot.

00:04:05.040 But fewer than about a third of them, 150,000, voted.

00:04:11.040 250,000 votes were rejected.

00:04:15.400 On what basis?

00:04:17.120 Who rejected them?

00:04:18.620 Was there any scrutineering?

00:04:20.100 How was this all done, given that it was online?

00:04:22.380 So you had someone win based on 150,000 votes out of 400,000.

00:04:28.700 And remember that 14-year-old children could vote, foreign nationals could vote.

00:04:32.840 Then we saw the fake debate.

00:04:34.380 It was a love-in.

00:04:35.280 They banned Ruby Dalla from coming, knowing she would ask some tricky questions. 0.97

00:04:39.720 And, of course, the vote count by district that showed laughable results that clearly aren't accurate to say that Chrystia Freeland, even though we may not like her, to say she only got 188 votes in her own district, and Karina Gold only got 190 compared to massive numbers for Mark Carney, it's simply not believable.

00:05:01.940 I think we have an illegitimate vote, and I think we have an illegitimate government, for sure.

00:05:09.480 To this day, Parliament has not been recalled.

00:05:12.420 It's still prorogued.

00:05:14.280 It has no popular support.

00:05:15.980 It has no legal mandate.

00:05:17.620 Mark Carney is a stranger.

00:05:19.840 We don't even know where he lives, as in what country is he living in?

00:05:24.520 We don't know anything about him.

00:05:26.140 He certainly wasn't probed in any of the debates.

00:05:29.000 And much of his media has either been very carefully selected with the state broadcaster, or he's gone down to the U.S. to do it.

00:05:36.920 I think he's a kind of Manchurian candidate.

00:05:40.400 I know one thing's for sure.

00:05:42.920 He doesn't care about Western Canada.

00:05:44.900 Only two of his cabinet ministers are west of Ontario.

00:05:48.660 And this has immediate impact.

00:05:50.300 For example, canola tariffs by China.

00:05:53.940 Massive 100% tariffs on the canola industry, which is enormous.

00:05:58.220 It's a Canadian industry.

00:05:59.440 It's a Western Canadian industry.

00:06:01.560 And it's much bigger than, let's say, the electric vehicle battery industry in Ontario and Quebec.

00:06:10.320 But that's actually what China was retaliating for. 1.00

00:06:14.140 Trudeau and now Carney are banning Chinese-made electric cars from Canada.

00:06:19.100 And in return, China is punishing Canadian canola.

00:06:24.040 Not even a statement that I can see, let alone tariffs in return.

00:06:28.140 But that's because it's Canadian voters, not Western Canadian voters.

00:06:31.920 Worse than that, Western Canadian farmers. 1.00

00:06:34.700 I don't think there's one in 20 Western Canadian farmers who would vote liberal.

00:06:39.360 I mean, you've got to be senile or deranged to be a Saskatchewan farmer voting for the liberals.

00:06:44.540 So, Mark Carney doesn't care.

00:06:46.120 And, of course, the media party doesn't care.

00:06:48.680 Stephen Gilbeau, though, the extremist environmentalist minister under Trudeau, is now in charge of Quebec.

00:06:53.960 So, good luck with any pipelines there.

00:06:56.760 But I think the craziest news I've heard today is not the cabinet.

00:07:02.060 It's pretty much predictable.

00:07:03.480 It's just picking over the tired cabinet from Justin Trudeau.

00:07:09.820 The craziest thing I heard today was that Mark Carney is immediately going to leave Canada to go on a lengthy trip to Europe.

00:07:21.360 What?

00:07:22.360 What?

00:07:23.480 We're in the worst and strangest trade battle of our recent memory with the United States.

00:07:31.640 And instead of going down to Washington or to Mar-a-Lago, he's off to Europe?

00:07:37.320 How does that make sense?

00:07:38.880 Well, here's how I think it could make sense.

00:07:40.560 Remember who Mark Carney is.

00:07:43.640 He hasn't been in Canada for decades.

00:07:45.680 He was the Bank of Canada governor.

00:07:47.060 It's true.

00:07:47.940 But then he became the Bank of England governor.

00:07:49.960 And then he became a UN climate activist.

00:07:53.640 And then he became the chairman of Brookfield Asset Management, which is like a mini version of the globalist BlackRock.

00:08:01.520 But I think what you really need to know about Mark Carney is to know that he was a World Economic Forum member of the board.

00:08:10.860 He was a Klaus Schwab board member.

00:08:14.720 So he doesn't think of the world in terms of Canada.

00:08:17.780 He thinks of the world in terms of a globalist project run by the World Economic Forum.

00:08:23.040 So, of course, he's going to Europe to do what?

00:08:27.180 My speculation is that Mark Carney is going deliberately to Europe, not to the United States, because he's actually going to build a World Economic Forum coalition, an anti-Trump, anti-American coalition.

00:08:45.780 Remember, Mark Carney and Brookfield have deep ties with Communist China, especially with Xi Jinping and the Communist Party.

00:08:54.700 I think that Mark Carney, he's like an iceberg.

00:08:58.960 We know about one-seventh that's above water, but most of it is below water.

00:09:03.840 What has Mark Carney been doing in all these secretive meetings of the World Economic Forum, in his secretive meetings on behalf of the UN, on all of his projects?

00:09:12.660 We don't really know, but what we do know is that he has made very high-level connections all around the world, transnational connections.

00:09:21.200 And if anyone is the guy to build an anti-Trump global coalition, it's Mark Carney.

00:09:27.940 I told you that when I went to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in January of 2024, so not two months ago, but 14 months ago,

00:09:37.780 that the two words on everyone's lips were Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

00:09:42.660 They were terrified by Trump disrupting the world order, and they knew that Elon Musk would allow Trump to disrupt the world order, and that came true.

00:09:51.000 The World Economic Forum, well, Trump is the antidote to them. 0.96

00:09:55.260 He's like garlic to a vampire.

00:09:57.840 And that hits home for Mark Carney, the consummate globalist man.

00:10:02.680 I think, actually, more than anyone, other than perhaps George Soros' son, Alex, who doesn't really have the intellectual horsepower to do, he's more of a playboy,

00:10:14.020 I think perhaps Mark Carney is the best position person in the world to put together an anti-Trump coalition.

00:10:22.820 Not a politician in France or a politician in Estonia or not someone small and small-minded,

00:10:31.380 but someone who for decades has thought of himself as a citizen of the world and who went about doing schemes and plans behind the scenes under the radar.

00:10:41.540 Remember, he has three passports.

00:10:43.540 I think Mark Carney is actually just the guy to do it, by the way.

00:10:47.980 I'm not saying he'll succeed, but I think that's his plan.

00:10:51.700 He certainly has no plan to go to the United States.

00:10:55.100 I think that Mark Carney is just as awful as Justin Trudeau.

00:11:01.600 But he's smarter than Trudeau.

00:11:04.120 He's harder working than Trudeau.

00:11:06.080 And he is a much more powerful global network than Trudeau.

00:11:11.060 I'm a little bit worried.

00:11:13.200 Stay with us.

00:11:14.140 More ahead.

00:11:26.100 Well, the spats between Canada and the United States over tariffs affects the entire country.

00:11:31.740 But really, Alberta stands out in a number of ways.

00:11:34.080 For one reason, the bulk of the trade surplus that Canada has with the United States is because we sell them so much oil.

00:11:41.700 The second reason is that Alberta loves selling that oil. 1.00

00:11:45.520 And Alberta is the most pro-American province in the country, by my assessment.

00:11:50.340 And the premier of Alberta, Danielle Smith, is the most pro-American and most friendly to Trump.

00:11:54.780 She even went down to the United States, Washington, D.C., for the inauguration.

00:12:00.060 She's really worked the room down there when Justin Trudeau and other premiers like Doug Ford stank up the joint and engaged in counter-threats and insults.

00:12:10.860 Those may feel good, but I don't think they particularly work on Donald Trump.

00:12:15.620 But here's the thing that's on my mind.

00:12:18.340 Donald Trump loves yanking the chain of Justin Trudeau.

00:12:21.580 And we'll see how he deals with Trudeau 2.0, Mark Carney.

00:12:24.900 But one of the things that I think really upset Trudeau, and I think it upset other Canadians too, was the proposal by Donald Trump that Canada join the United States as what he called a cherished 51st state.

00:12:37.840 So we spend $200 billion a year subsidizing Canada.

00:12:42.760 We don't have to do that.

00:12:44.520 And frankly, the way that gets solved is Canada should honestly become our 51st state.

00:12:50.140 We wouldn't have a northern border problem.

00:12:52.420 We wouldn't have a tariff problem.

00:12:54.700 They don't have much.

00:12:56.560 They spend very little, as you know, the least of almost anybody on military.

00:13:00.480 And we spend the most of anybody on military.

00:13:03.020 We have a great military.

00:13:04.640 I rebuilt the military during my first time.

00:13:06.680 We're going to have to rebuild it a little bit again.

00:13:08.520 Not that much.

00:13:09.860 But we're going to have to rebuild it a little bit again.

00:13:12.300 But Canada would be great as our cherished 51st state.

00:13:16.600 You wouldn't have to worry about borders.

00:13:18.180 You wouldn't have to worry about anything.

00:13:20.680 And by the way, Canada is very highly taxed.

00:13:22.840 And we're very low taxed.

00:13:24.420 We're considered a low taxed nation because of me, because I cut the taxes so low.

00:13:29.220 So the people of Canada would pay much less tax.

00:13:32.160 But just to be clear with it.

00:13:32.960 It makes a lot of sense.

00:13:33.620 And by the way, when you take away that artificial line that looks like it was done with a ruler.

00:13:39.080 And that's what it was.

00:13:40.200 Some guy sat there years ago and they said, rah.

00:13:43.060 Well, when you take away that and you look at that beautiful formation of Canada and the United States,

00:13:49.580 there is no place anywhere in the world that looks like that.

00:13:54.300 Now, the closest analogy I can find, and I've been using this a lot, is this would be like proposing marriage to someone who's already married.

00:14:04.220 It's an indecent proposal.

00:14:06.200 It's shocking, even immoral.

00:14:08.720 It hurts the feelings.

00:14:10.140 It seems outrageous.

00:14:11.700 And I think a lot of people have taken it that way.

00:14:13.980 But here's another extension of that metaphor. 0.98

00:14:18.120 If you are in a marriage that is doomed, if you are in an abusive relationship and someone else comes up and say, hey, what are you doing with that loser?

00:14:26.960 Come with me and we'll improve everything about your life, a better relationship.

00:14:31.100 If you were considering a divorce anyways and someone comes along and says, we'll give you a much stronger economy, we'll give you real national defense, we'll buy all your oil, come and join a winning team.

00:14:44.060 Well, you might not find the proposal so indecent.

00:14:47.580 And in fact, as certain polls have shown, young men, particularly in Western Canada, are quite open to the idea of becoming American.

00:14:54.980 Danielle Smith, of course, is a Canadian patriot and has done what other Canadian premiers said, which is try and work out a deal. 0.97

00:15:03.180 But what about the idea of not all of Canada joining the United States, but of Western separatism and in particular Alberta independence?

00:15:13.800 It's an idea that comes and goes, I suppose, like a pendulum, depending on how abusive Ottawa gets towards the West.

00:15:20.640 We saw that in the 70s and 80s, and then the Reform Party came along, and then Stephen Harper cooled things off when he was prime minister, and then Trudeau came along.

00:15:29.960 What is the state of Alberta independence today?

00:15:33.200 Joining us now to talk about, this is our friend, Keith Wilson.

00:15:36.320 We know him as a lawyer, including a lawyer for Tamara Leach, but he's also a political fella.

00:15:40.900 He joins us now via Skype from Alberta.

00:15:43.340 Keith, great to see you again.

00:15:45.040 Great to see you, Ezra.

00:15:45.540 You know, I think that Alberta has overtaken Quebec as the part of Canada most interested in a post-Canadian future.

00:15:58.180 How would you rate Alberta independence feelings or Alberta separatist feelings in March of 2025?

00:16:06.800 It's off the scales.

00:16:08.260 I've never seen it higher.

00:16:09.140 I mean, we have a history of, in Alberta, being frustrated and feeling that we're not getting a fair deal and that we're being taken advantage of.

00:16:21.660 So we're not in a happy marriage with the rest of Canada.

00:16:25.280 And there's more and more people thinking that, at a minimum, that Alberta needs to become an independent, sovereign country.

00:16:32.440 And there's many as well that are finding great appeal in this offer from an attempt by U.S. President Donald Trump to expand the territorial boundaries of the United States of America.

00:16:50.420 Now, I think that Trump's, I mean, if you watch that interview with Marco Rubio and Catherine Herridge, Rubio says where this whole 51st state thing came from.

00:17:01.960 Trump said, what would happen if we had zero trade deficit?

00:17:06.340 And Trudeau blurted out, well, that would be the end of Canada.

00:17:09.560 And that's where Trump replied by saying, well, join us at 51st state.

00:17:13.840 Here's Marco Rubio explaining it to Catherine Herridge.

00:17:16.440 Which it basically, Rubio, the way he puts it is, it was Trudeau who came up with the unthinkable idea and Trump just ran with it.

00:17:24.240 Take a look.

00:17:25.000 President Trump has talked about expanding the U.S. footprint.

00:17:29.160 In a hot mic moment, Canada's prime minister said that absorbing Canada is a real thing.

00:17:36.020 Is it a real thing?

00:17:37.300 Look, you know how that came about.

00:17:39.100 President's meeting with Trudeau and Trudeau says, well, if you impose, if you even out our trade relationship, then we will cease to exist as a country.

00:17:45.620 At which point the president responded very logically.

00:17:48.460 And that is, well, if you can't exist without cheating and trade, then you should become a state.

00:17:53.820 That was his observation.

00:17:55.060 That's how it started.

00:17:55.780 It is how it started.

00:17:56.640 And I think he's told the story publicly.

00:17:58.280 And that's how all this began.

00:17:59.960 So I think Trump, who's a very good negotiator, immediately detected part of Trudeau's psyche that felt a little inferior or vulnerable.

00:18:07.460 And he just kept going after it and going after it.

00:18:09.540 But I actually don't think that Trump has much more, like I don't think he's got serious plans to absorb Canada as he does with the Panama Canal and with Greenland even.

00:18:22.520 I think Trump just wants, you know, certain trade irritants removed.

00:18:27.340 I genuinely think that's all he wants.

00:18:29.520 Of course, he would take Canada if it was for offer.

00:18:31.660 But I think it's just the rhetorical style that a lot of Canadians are not used to.

00:18:37.000 We're not used to a brawling New York swaggery guy.

00:18:42.000 That's just not our way.

00:18:43.480 I don't know.

00:18:44.300 I think I don't think Trump is perfectly serious.

00:18:48.100 What do you think?

00:18:48.720 Well, I don't know, obviously, but so I'll speculate if he's not, he could be made to be serious because Alberta has so much to offer the United States.

00:19:04.700 There was a report that came out last week that significantly increased when based on analysis, the actual size of our reserves of natural gas and oil.

00:19:14.320 And it's astronomical. And we could become the by our becoming part of the United States, Alberta, that is their strategic reserve.

00:19:25.720 It's not only that we have critical minerals.

00:19:28.540 We have incredible large boreal forest for lumber.

00:19:33.680 All of our the majority of our cattle that are produced in Alberta are incredible, high quality beef.

00:19:38.240 Go south into the United States as a lot of agricultural products.

00:19:41.600 So we've got a lot to offer the United States and it would be a pretty good acquisition for him if he could do it.

00:19:49.380 Frankly, to be very candid, I've had to look at this very seriously with what I've been watching happen out of Ottawa and the crazy leftist extremist policies that we've seen under the Liberals and I think are going to get even worse under Carney.

00:20:03.580 And I'm looking at the cost of living, inflation, all of these other factors and the economy generally.

00:20:11.060 And my wife and I have had to ask ourselves, what would be better for our four children?

00:20:14.740 What would give them a better, happier, more prosperous future?

00:20:17.800 And the answer is obvious. It's not staying in Canada.

00:20:20.780 It's either Alberta becoming an independent country or Alberta joining in some way with the United States.

00:20:27.220 I know that's controversial, but Alberta's been badly abused. 1.00

00:20:32.000 We have so much to offer and people are just done.

00:20:37.120 They're just so fed up.

00:20:38.980 And what, you know, what Carney's going to, if he follows through on the things that he's written about in his books and his policies that he holds dear and near to his heart, net zero,

00:20:49.500 and all this other extremist nonsense that also his wife holds dear to her heart, she's just as much of a zealot as he is,

00:20:57.260 you know, Gabo and Trudeau are going to look like a cakewalk.

00:21:00.280 They're going to Disneyland compared to what we're going to be facing.

00:21:03.040 And I don't think Albertans will stand for it.

00:21:05.020 But what's really fascinating, Ezra, is you might want to ask me about what are the legal steps required if Alberta were to seek separation or join the United States?

00:21:19.300 Because I think your listeners might be surprised at my answer.

00:21:22.580 I was coming to that because I was just wanting to note on Mark Carney.

00:21:27.840 Today was his investiture as prime minister.

00:21:30.580 He does not have a cabinet minister for Alberta, not that there was a lot to choose from, but he has only two cabinet ministers west of Ontario.

00:21:40.520 And he appointed Stephen Gilbeau, that maniac, in charge of Quebec.

00:21:45.760 He's his Quebec political lieutenant, which basically confirms there will be no pipeline to the east.

00:21:50.600 So I just wanted to say that before moving on to your next point.

00:21:53.320 And my understanding, and I haven't studied this like it sounds like you have,

00:21:58.560 but Quebec sort of was the icebreaker.

00:22:02.940 It was the first to cut the path through the jungle on what are the laws surrounding secession.

00:22:08.580 In the United States, secession, I think, is illegal.

00:22:12.440 That was really what the Civil War was about.

00:22:15.000 It was states saying, we're out of here, and the Union saying, no, no, you cannot leave.

00:22:18.900 I mean, slavery was a cause of the secession, but it was the secession.

00:22:24.700 Lincoln himself said, I would fight this war, even if not a single slave were freed.

00:22:29.160 He wrote that in a very famous letter.

00:22:31.500 I think in Canada, secession is not only completely lawful, but the Clarity Act and the Supreme Court have told us how to do it.

00:22:40.180 Is that correct?

00:22:40.700 Yeah, so in 1998, there was a reference case that went to the Supreme Court of Canada, because it looked like Quebec might want to succeed and become its own independent country.

00:22:53.020 And if you don't have a legal mechanism, then you're only left with kinetic force, which you don't want to have.

00:22:58.460 So the Supreme Court of Canada was asked to look at, is there a constitutional pathway for a province to leave Canada and become its own independent, sovereign nation or join another nation?

00:23:14.040 And the Supreme Court of Canada said yes.

00:23:16.480 And they said what's required is a clear referendum, a referendum with a clear question, with a clear majority.

00:23:24.320 And if a clear majority of the citizens vote in a referendum, a legally sanctioned referendum, to leave Canada and become their own sovereign, then it places each other province and First Nations, Aboriginal groups, and the federal government under a positive legal duty to enter into negotiations for the terms of that separation.

00:23:48.040 Much in the same way that matrimonial property laws in every province require a divorcing couple, one can say, well, I'm not going to talk to her.

00:23:55.520 Well, good luck with that, buddy, because you're going to have to.

00:23:57.900 And then if not, there's a mechanism.

00:24:01.340 So the same idea.

00:24:02.660 So what's interesting, though, is that Alberta has gone further than any other province in putting all of the legal tools to implement that mechanism of separation in place, on the books, now, live, ready to go.

00:24:19.980 Really?

00:24:20.980 How?

00:24:21.480 In what way have they done that?

00:24:23.340 Well, just, I missed the Clarity Act.

00:24:25.280 So after the Supreme Court of Canada reference, the federal government brought in the Clarity Act, which basically codifies in statute the concepts that the Supreme Court of Canada laid out.

00:24:34.360 So we have the Supreme Court of Canada decision saying, yes, there's a mechanism for provinces to separate.

00:24:39.760 We have the Clarity Act affirming and providing additional mechanics and details to that.

00:24:46.920 So Alberta, years ago, passed a law called the Referendum Act.

00:24:51.720 And the Referendum Act allows the cabinet to issue an order in council calling for a referendum, has all the rules as to how the referendum will be held, how groups can fund and fundraise and advertise, you know, election stuff.

00:25:04.300 And then, in addition, a number of years ago, another statute was brought in called the Citizen Initiative Act.

00:25:14.840 So even if Premier Smith and her cabinet don't want to call for a referendum, but a sufficient number of Albertans do, they can, if we get over 600,000 people signing a petition, it will compel the cabinet to hold a referendum.

00:25:32.080 So if enough citizens sign a petition within a 60-day time period, once the initiative starts, if they hit that threshold, then the cabinet has to call for a referendum and Albertans get to vote on whether or not they want to form their own country.

00:25:51.040 And then once Alberta is its own country, it can then negotiate with the United States on the terms of joining the union or Alberta could remain a sovereign.

00:26:00.100 I remember looking at those Alberta laws, and I felt that they were drafted to make it impossible to have 600,000 signatures, you say, in 60 days, in a province where the total number of voting adults is, what, maybe 3 million gross, or it's probably smaller than that.

00:26:18.360 The number of people who vote in any given provincial election, I'm going to guess, is probably, I don't know, a million?

00:26:25.060 Forgive me, I'm just spitballing you.

00:26:28.080 Yeah, no, your numbers are accurate, they're just out of date.

00:26:31.060 Sure.

00:26:31.580 So it's 4.2 million.

00:26:33.140 Okay.

00:26:33.640 There's about 750,000 voters in rural Alberta.

00:26:37.800 Right.

00:26:38.100 I suspect that you could probably get 500,000 of them to sign the petition.

00:26:44.000 And then you'd be looking to pick up a few hundred thousand from the major urban centers out of a population of 4.2 million.

00:26:49.960 I think it's doable.

00:26:50.580 I mean, it would be an enormous effort.

00:26:54.540 I think that it all turns on one thing.

00:26:58.580 Does Mark Carney win the election in 2025?

00:27:01.740 Absolutely.

00:27:03.260 If he does, Alberta's out of here. 1.00

00:27:04.660 And that's the thing.

00:27:05.180 Donald Trump, maybe in his bones he knew something was up.

00:27:09.140 Canada does not want to join the United States.

00:27:11.560 But Alberta sure might. 1.00

00:27:12.640 And if Alberta goes, I think within a year, Saskatchewan would go.

00:27:16.320 And then British Columbia, I don't know which half of that yin and yang.

00:27:21.040 I mean, there's the eco-leftists, and then there's sort of the right-wingers in BC.

00:27:25.740 But I think if Alberta wins, Saskatchewan will go quickly.

00:27:28.060 I think it all turns on if Carney wins.

00:27:32.940 If Carney wins, all bets are off.

00:27:34.600 If Pierre Pauly wins again, it'll be like Stephen Harper, lowering the temperature, things will be fine, and the raw inertia of it will make it impossible.

00:27:42.740 I think that's what it comes down to.

00:27:46.680 I think Mark Carney winning is an existential threat to Canada.

00:27:49.960 Ironically, he'll claim that Trump is the existential threat to Canada.

00:27:53.960 But Carney and the way he operates and what he swears he will do, that would or could break up the country.

00:28:01.240 And you know what?

00:28:02.800 A year or two after Alberta leaves, if Alberta really were to join the United States, I think every entrepreneurial person in Canada would make their way to Alberta.

00:28:11.080 Because it would be just as Canadian as it is today in terms of its place and the people there, but it would have the freedom and would have the economy.

00:28:20.660 It would have, you know, it would be every entrepreneurial, aspiring, prosperous, young person would move to Alberta.

00:28:28.660 You would have this huge magnet.

00:28:30.680 And, you know, I wonder if liberal Albertans would say, I'm leaving, and they would all go to Vancouver or something.

00:28:38.040 I don't know, but it would be a fascinating thing.

00:28:40.420 I think that's the stakes of the next election.

00:28:43.500 Last word to you.

00:28:44.240 Do you think there would be any other way this would go to a referendum?

00:28:48.980 Do you think there would be any situation in which the government would call a referendum?

00:28:55.240 I think any Alberta politician that would say, we're going to have a referendum, because that would save the 600,000-named petition.

00:29:05.000 I think any politician who would dare to say that would be absolutely destroyed by the establishment.

00:29:09.980 They would be destroyed, pulverized, the deep state, all the parties, all the media, everything would destroy them.

00:29:16.820 I think even if there are people in the Alberta government who, in their hearts, believe in separatism, I think that they would be too timid to say so publicly, because they'd be destroyed as people.

00:29:26.360 What do you think?

00:29:27.780 Well, I think what's interesting about the culture of Alberta, and I'm originally from Ontario.

00:29:33.600 I spent six years of my life living in Vancouver.

00:29:36.280 I've spent, obviously, the vast majority of my life here.

00:29:38.900 But there's a unique culture in Alberta, and similar to Saskatchewan, that it's entrepreneurial, as you know.

00:29:44.860 But what's happened in the last decade, for sure, is Albertans have come to an understanding of what we're worth, and what the province is worth, and what we're worth for our hard work.

00:29:55.760 And we're tired of it.

00:29:57.580 So, if Polyev gets selected, and he taxed to the left to appease Central Canada or Laurentians, that could be enough.

00:30:09.680 We know the potential of this province.

00:30:11.480 We know the potential wealth and prosperity that we can create, and the opportunities for our children.

00:30:16.500 And if any government's going to step in the way right now, people are impatient, they're fed up, they're frustrated.

00:30:21.600 It's not necessarily the case that it would take a carny win.

00:30:25.620 A carny win? Oh, boy.

00:30:28.240 It's going to be fast.

00:30:29.600 It's going to be fast, especially with Trump down there.

00:30:31.840 He's going to see the opportunity, and he's going to want to do a deal.

00:30:35.020 I think it'll happen quick, or it has strong potential to.

00:30:40.680 And also, we just don't know what's coming, right?

00:30:43.140 I mean, look at the volatility, the whiplash of, whoa, what happened today?

00:30:46.880 What happened tomorrow?

00:30:49.840 We're in a fast-moving movie.

00:30:52.200 And so, who knows what's going to happen if Trump really starts to understand the potential enhancement and power and wealth that Alberta can contribute to the United States.

00:31:04.800 And he really gets focused on making it happen.

00:31:07.040 Who knows what events might transpire to make it more clear that this is a good choice for Albertans.

00:31:13.320 So, we're in interesting times.

00:31:15.320 Yeah, for sure.

00:31:16.100 Wow.

00:31:16.340 Well, Keith, thanks for giving us a briefing on it and a reminder of those different hurdles on the referendum side.

00:31:22.240 I think they – I still worry that no referendum could ever get through.

00:31:27.560 In my mind, those laws were placebos. 0.99

00:31:30.520 They were brought in, if I'm not mistaken, by the Kennedy government to placate democratic-minded rural folks in particular.

00:31:37.680 But I think it was a trick.

00:31:38.820 I think the numbers are about 50 percent too high to make it possible.

00:31:42.500 But the spirit is there.

00:31:44.420 And who knows?

00:31:44.840 Maybe those numbers themselves could be amended.

00:31:46.880 Great to catch up with you.

00:31:47.760 I'm sure we'll talk more about this.

00:31:49.920 Thank you.

00:31:50.280 Good to see you.

00:31:50.780 You have a Keith Wilson, King's Council, joining us via Skype.

00:31:54.320 Stay with us.

00:31:54.900 More ahead.

00:31:55.320 Hello, my friends.

00:32:04.700 Your letters to me on foreign aid funding to Bangladesh.

00:32:08.180 Rumbler says,

00:32:09.920 I hate the fact that monetary decisions and promises are being made with no discussion or debate on it.

00:32:14.560 As far as I'm concerned, since the House is prorogued, all these are null and void.

00:32:18.800 Oh, so much is being done when Parliament isn't in session.

00:32:22.640 And I saw today that David Eby of British Columbia has introduced legislation, it's called Bill 7, that would allow him to essentially rule by fiat too.

00:32:31.500 And, of course, he's using Trump as the excuse for the emergency.

00:32:35.460 Well, that's the thing about emergencies.

00:32:36.960 If you give the government emergency powers to do things that they couldn't do in normal times, well, they're going to find an emergency everywhere.

00:32:45.640 A COVID emergency, a climate emergency, a tariff emergency. 0.82

00:32:50.200 You give governments emergency powers, they will declare emergencies.

00:32:55.680 On the Court of Appeal approving the $290 million class action suit against the Freedom Convoy, Momison says,

00:33:03.720 I didn't know nuisance was a crime.

00:33:05.520 Why don't you do something about the illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:33:08.060 Well, that's such an interesting point.

00:33:10.480 Trouble is in Canada.

00:33:11.780 A lot of the nuisances from legal immigrants. 1.00

00:33:14.360 I mean, I think of the Hamas protesters in Toronto.

00:33:16.400 But you're so right.

00:33:17.120 They're absolutely a nuisance.

00:33:19.060 If you compare the violence and the threats and the trespass and the mischief and the assault conducted by the pro-Hamas protesters to the peaceful, happy truckers, it's clear which one is the criminal enterprise.

00:33:30.980 But police are very political in Canada these days, aren't they?

00:33:34.960 Butterfly Katana says, 1.00

00:33:36.320 You know what, I don't know enough about that detail of the law.

00:33:44.740 I mean, I don't know how they could sue Zexy Lee and Paul Champ.

00:33:49.360 I think the remedy is if they get, if they win, they get some of their costs back from the bad guys.

00:33:55.420 But I don't think you can sue them just for suing you.

00:33:59.080 But again, I say, I think more and more our courts are left-wing activists.

00:34:03.800 I mean, nine years of Justin Trudeau picking the appointees, that'll turn the court to the left.

00:34:09.660 That's our show for today.

00:34:11.340 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:17.360 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - March 14, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News barred from PM Carney's first media scrum

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