Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News exposes convicted terrorist bomber teaching at Carleton University

00:00:00.260 Hello, my friends. I went to Carleton University in Ottawa this morning, not expecting much

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00:01:37.560 Tonight, why is a convicted terrorist teaching at Ottawa's Carleton University? It's November 20th,

00:01:44.480 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:46.220 You're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you sensorious thug.

00:02:01.700 It's a frosty morning, and the students of Carleton University are filing in, and I'm astonished to learn

00:02:09.700 that one of the professors at Carleton is named Hassan Diab. That's not astonishing in itself until

00:02:16.440 you know who he is. He was convicted by a French court of terrorism. He was convicted of blowing up

00:02:24.380 a Jewish synagogue in the heart of France, the first major jihadist terrorist attack in France that really

00:02:32.720 set in motion decades of anti-Semitic terror. It was in 1980, the Copernic synagogue, 300 Jews were inside,

00:02:42.300 and according to a French court who convicted him, Hassan Diab was the bomber. He set a bomb on a timer,

00:02:50.180 timed for when the Jewish synagogue would finish its Friday night services and the Jews would come out

00:02:56.240 onto the street. It was time for maximum carnage. Luckily, the proceedings inside the synagogue were 0.99

00:03:02.360 running late, and when the bomb blew up, four people, not 300, were killed. Obviously, a horrendous murder

00:03:09.720 and tragedy for those four who were killed and the dozens who were injured. It could have been far worse.

00:03:15.040 Now, what's interesting is France in 1980 is a lot different from France in 2024. In 1980,

00:03:21.220 it had yet to be colonized by jihadist migrants the way it is now. There was tremendous sympathy for the Jews.

00:03:30.980 Major labor unions stood in solidarity with the Jews. It was considered a tremendous failure on the part of the government

00:03:38.560 and, in part, some people say, caused the replacement of the government as hundreds of thousands of Jews

00:03:46.360 and those sympathetic to the victims of this bombing voted for the incoming French president.

00:03:54.500 That's politics, but the main thing is, who did it? Well, according to French authorities, it's that man,

00:04:00.600 Hassan Diab, who incredibly and bizarrely came to Canada and got a job as a sociology professor

00:04:10.720 at one of Canada's wokest universities. Well, it wasn't woke back then, but it certainly is now. 0.96

00:04:16.240 When we arrived on campus today, we saw the, not just the rainbow crosswalk, but I don't even know

00:04:23.380 all the symbols of what they stand for these days. There's about 20 different letters in the LGBT2QSL plus

00:04:30.220 rainbow. That's the kind of campus this is. It's a place where, if you're triggered by microaggressions,

00:04:37.840 you can go to your safe space where pronouns are de rigueur. Everything to coddle young minds and keep 0.99

00:04:45.820 them safe from criticism or ideas they don't like. Oh, right. And except they have a convicted terrorist

00:04:51.960 working here. Just that little microaggression. Imagine being a Jewish student in a class with this 0.55

00:04:58.740 terrorist as the teacher. I doubt a Jew would sign up to be taught by a murderer of Jews, but he's here 0.98

00:05:05.460 on the campus. And what's so fascinating is this campus in so many ways is funded by the Jews that 1.00

00:05:12.480 Hassan Diab set out to kill. I'm standing right in front of the Azraeli pavilion. The name Azraeli 0.98

00:05:20.580 is a famous Jewish architect, builder, developer, and philanthropist who has given countless millions

00:05:28.100 of dollars to Carlton. The actual building in which Diab is a professor is the Laib building, L-O-E-B,

00:05:37.220 named after Moses Laib and his descendants, who were early migrants to Canada, set up the famous

00:05:44.760 Loeb's grocery stores, have given millions of dollars to Carlton. It must make that terrorist

00:05:51.920 smile wryly every day to know that he is living a luxurious life at taxpayer's expense in a building

00:06:01.460 paid for by Jews. Indeed, he's colonized this university. I want to read from my phone a little 0.98

00:06:08.340 bit about the course description of Hassan Diab because he actually teaches social justice in action.

00:06:16.260 That's the actual name of the course he teaches a terrorist. It's called, it's in the Department of

00:06:22.900 Sociology and Anthropology, Fall of 2024, Social Justice in Action. Dr. Hassan Diab, you better call

00:06:31.860 the terrorist doctor or he'll correct your pronouns. It starts with a diversity statement. In this course,

00:06:41.620 you are expected to learn from your texts, your teacher, and from one another. This requires striving

00:06:47.020 towards understanding each other, but it does not imply striving towards finding agreement. Our class will be

00:06:52.840 racially, religiously, politically, culturally, generationally, and economically diverse. Sure it will. Just if

00:07:00.220 there's any Jews, they should be careful that they don't get offed by this guy. Our class, we will be of

00:07:05.300 different gender identifications and sexual orientations in our lived experiences and reactions to the

00:07:10.700 course material will reflect this diversity. This is a convicted Jew killer. I'll skip ahead because 1.00

00:07:18.500 what's so incredible is that the course itself is not really a course about scholarship. It's this

00:07:25.680 terrorist's diary. It's him pleading his case for why he shouldn't have to go back to France, why he

00:07:33.900 shouldn't be extradited to face justice there. The official readings include his homemade website,

00:07:41.420 justiceforhassandiab.org. You have to visit that website and familiarize yourself with the case study

00:07:50.720 for this course. He's literally turned his terrorism into a course. Now there's an irony there calling the

00:07:58.320 the website Justice for Diab because justice was done. A French court heard the case. Diab refused to

00:08:06.540 attend. It was a conviction in absentia with the evidence being put before the court. There was justice

00:08:12.840 for Diab. They're real cesspool dwellers. What's your name? My name's fuck you. Well, hey, come back here, 1.00

00:08:19.120 coward. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Why would you say that? I just think you're such a provocateur.

00:08:24.400 Well, uh, what am I provoking today? You tell me. What's your, what's, uh... Well, why would you say

00:08:30.160 it if you don't even know what you're talking about? I do know what I'm talking about. What are you

00:08:34.120 talking about? I'm talking about you coming up to me and swearing at me out of nowhere.

00:08:38.740 And you're a coward. You won't even use your own name to do it. No, well, why would I do that?

00:08:43.620 Because you're ashamed of yourself. Well, that's... You know your conduct is unbecoming.

00:08:47.720 Quite the psychoanalysis of you, but... Why wouldn't you say your name? I mean,

00:08:51.140 are you ashamed of yourself? No, I'm not ashamed. Well, I'm not ashamed. My name's Ezra LeVant.

00:08:58.520 Quite frankly, I don't think my reaction was the best, but I think I was... Do you want to

00:09:02.880 apologize and start again? I am sorry for telling you to fuck off. Okay, thank you. I accept your

00:09:07.720 apology. Yeah. Okay. It was too much, but I do think that you're just a provocateur. You're trying

00:09:11.820 to get that reaction. I actually do feel bad that I was goaded in. I didn't goad you at all. You came up

00:09:17.100 to me. You're silly little Van. What's silly about it? He's a convicted terrorist.

00:09:20.520 Did you even read the van? I did see the van. It calls him a bomber. I think that...

00:09:26.340 He was convicted of that by a French court. Yeah, and I think, you know, our courts have

00:09:29.980 thrown all kinds of questions around the process around that. Our courts have not heard the matter

00:09:35.060 of that court's conviction. You know, I'm not as up on it as I should be, but I think you're

00:09:40.760 just trying to poke a bear there, and you did with me, so you got one on that. Well, I just hope

00:09:46.480 he doesn't bomb this place, and I hope he doesn't bomb you. He's worked here for how many years,

00:09:50.580 and he hasn't bombed anything? So he's bombed a synagogue in France, according to the French

00:09:54.260 courts. Yeah, and it's a whole disputed set of facts. He didn't dispute it. He didn't even

00:09:59.080 go. My understanding is that he's still fighting that trial. He refused to fight. He refused

00:10:04.380 to go there. At one point, I believe there was a set... There was a judicial authority that

00:10:09.260 threw it out on its merits. It didn't have the merits, and then it had to kind of come back

00:10:13.580 in. My understanding is it's quite politicized. My understanding is that it's quite gray,

00:10:17.700 and your van is not gray at all. How would a Jew feel in a course taught by a convicted 0.98

00:10:22.960 terrorist who bombed a Jewish synagogue and killed four people? Who's accused of doing 0.99

00:10:27.440 all that? Well, he's convicted of it. You know, I don't... It could be uncomfortable. Who cares

00:10:30.760 about it? It could be uncomfortable. All right. Well, at least I have that concession from

00:10:34.240 you. Have a great day. Well, I do accept his apology. Let's go back and finish our monologue.

00:10:41.760 Well, I'm back at the truck. That was an interesting interaction. He said that this

00:10:45.600 truck is provocative. I suppose it is in that we're calling... We're seeking to provoke an

00:10:50.460 outcome to have the convicted terrorists fired. So I suppose that's provocative? From

00:10:58.380 my point of view, it's more provocative to be a university using taxpayers' dollars to

00:11:03.660 pay for a convicted terrorist to say, I'm not guilty when a court found that he's guilty.

00:11:11.140 That gentleman knew a few of the facts. And I'll be honest, I haven't read the full conviction

00:11:15.520 myself. But for him to come up to me, swear at me, and run off without giving me his name,

00:11:21.520 I thought was a little bit cowardly. And you know what? I think he realized it was, and

00:11:24.660 he apologized. I actually do accept his apology. And we had a bit of a banter. He was wise enough

00:11:31.160 to concede that it might be a little uncomfortable to be a Jew in a class where a fella is praising

00:11:38.260 his life's work as a social justice activist, as a convicted terrorist. You know, it's just

00:11:45.920 so out of place. I showed you the rainbow crosswalk. They're so tolerant here. I read to you the diversity

00:11:53.740 statement from Hassan Diab's own course that we have to be gentle with each other and we have to

00:11:59.720 respect each other. This is a convicted murderer. Now, if this guy wants to appeal his ruling, let him go

00:12:06.380 and appeal it. He's resisted extradition to France under it. So he's not seeking justice. He's seeking

00:12:14.400 to avoid justice. I don't know if there would be an appeal. I don't know if he would succeed in an

00:12:20.780 appeal. I know this. He refuses to go to France to face justice. And he's fighting with every ounce

00:12:27.180 to avoid that deportation. And in the meantime, the city of Ottawa, the University of Carlton,

00:12:35.460 the donors and the students have to live with a convicted synagogue bomber teaching here. That

00:12:41.940 just shows you how far things have moved in this country. I told you a little bit of what it was like

00:12:47.960 in France in 1980 when this terror attack happened. And the country was much more sympathetic to Jews.

00:12:56.460 I suppose it had only been 35 years since the end of the Holocaust. And people were still alive to the

00:13:03.140 horrors of anti-Semitic violence. And they couldn't believe it had come back to France, which had one

00:13:09.520 of the largest Jewish populations in Europe. And it was just massacred by the Nazis. Hey, come here,

00:13:14.460 coward. Coward. Come here. Coward. What's your name, coward? What's your name? What's your name?

00:13:22.820 Get out of my face, asshat. What's your name? Why won't you say your name? What's your name? Why are 0.99

00:13:27.400 you afraid? Are you ashamed of yourself? No, you should be. I'm not ashamed. My name's Ezra. Well,

00:13:32.300 you're full of swears and you won't say your name. Make it fair. Canadian. Put the camera out of my face. 1.00

00:13:38.320 This is assault. Get out of my face. It's not assault. You're a liar again, but you're also a coward

00:13:42.000 because you won't say your name. Yeah. Why are you swearing at a stranger? Why are you? This is

00:13:49.280 defamation. He's a convicted terrorist. A French court convicted him. You don't even know what

00:13:56.300 you're talking about. No, I don't. Why would you swear at a stranger? Hey, this is a secure area.

00:14:02.700 You're not allowed in here. Well, I am in here. What are you going to do about it? I'm going to call

00:14:05.680 security right now. Please do. And we can go and arrest the bomber together. He came up to me

00:14:18.220 and swore at me. That's not very polite. That's a microaggression. Your nose is running. Are you

00:14:28.920 calm now? You want to calm down a bit? I'd like you to get on my face still. Whoa, you came up to

00:14:33.460 me, man. Like you just started swearing at me like an animal. You look nervous. Your thumbs are

00:14:41.160 shaking. Oh my God, you're shaking. I wonder if it's cold out. I just came from a 20-minute bike ride.

00:14:46.260 I think you're nervous because I think you swore at a stranger and you're embarrassed by it.

00:14:50.500 No, that's definitely not. You're not embarrassed by it? You don't regret what you just said and did?

00:14:53.840 No, not at all. Who are you? And why would you treat strangers that way? Why don't you debate me

00:15:02.880 if you have something you want to say? Because you don't want debate. You want controversy and

00:15:06.960 you're garbage. Well, I'm not a terrorist who murdered Jews. I have been convicted by a court

00:15:14.180 in France. I've got some troll from Rebel News chasing after me. He's in an area here where he's not

00:15:23.400 supposed to be a secure Viking here. He's come in with an authorization.

00:15:31.720 I cannot say that right now if I can because he's not saying anything.

00:15:39.820 Awesome. Thanks.

00:15:44.360 You're ashamed of yourself. You won't even say your name.

00:15:48.080 That's what it is for sure.

00:15:49.220 Well, you're not proud of yourself.

00:15:52.500 Are you sure you don't want to try again?

00:15:54.660 Quite sure.

00:15:56.340 Quite sure.

00:15:57.640 Are you in the terrorist class?

00:16:01.300 Yes, obviously.

00:16:02.980 Obviously.

00:16:03.640 Every Carlson professor is obviously a terrorist.

00:16:06.100 Well, he was convicted of it.

00:16:07.380 No, he was convicted of it.

00:16:08.740 Obviously most aren't.

00:16:09.900 In fact, the Azraeli building, the Loeb building are by Jewish philanthropists.

00:16:14.740 Don't you think it's weird that a convicted Jew killer is in a building donated by Jews? 0.97

00:16:22.300 How would a Jewish student feel in a class taught by a convicted terrorist?

00:16:25.860 We're going to get you out of here so that you leave other people's property alone and we'll wait for security to come.

00:16:35.120 What class are you going to now? Are you going to his class?

00:16:38.200 Obviously.

00:16:39.340 Are you a social justice activist yourself?

00:16:41.640 Obviously. Obviously.

00:16:44.600 You're embarrassed by yourself.

00:16:46.360 Yes, that's what it is.

00:16:47.500 Why don't you...

00:16:48.580 You're harassing me.

00:16:49.880 Get out of my face. 0.99

00:16:50.960 I'm not in your face.

00:16:51.940 How about get out of my face?

00:16:53.760 That's assault.

00:16:55.240 Get out of my face. 0.99

00:16:56.280 I'm not in your face.

00:16:56.980 Okay, cool.

00:16:57.500 You're the guy who came up to me and swore at me.

00:17:01.200 You're out of control.

00:17:02.240 Your emotions are out of control.

00:17:03.660 That's what it is.

00:17:04.140 I'm out of control.

00:17:05.860 You don't...

00:17:06.340 I think you don't know how to handle yourself.

00:17:08.440 You don't know how to handle someone you disagree with.

00:17:11.480 Exactly.

00:17:13.260 Cool.

00:17:13.880 Hey, how's it going?

00:17:15.260 So how long have you been trolling all of Canada with a bunch of bullshit in all your life?

00:17:18.800 See, you're swearing.

00:17:19.800 You're shaking.

00:17:20.680 Does it feel good, though?

00:17:21.420 You're shaking.

00:17:22.480 You're emotionally out of control.

00:17:23.740 Does it feel good?

00:17:24.140 How many times has Rebel News been convicted of libel?

00:17:27.620 Found libel.

00:17:28.340 Never.

00:17:28.720 Lying to Canada.

00:17:29.720 Never.

00:17:30.500 Multiple times.

00:17:31.420 Never.

00:17:31.720 Name one.

00:17:33.280 Who's the founder?

00:17:34.320 I don't remember his name right now.

00:17:35.920 But I sure know that that's the case.

00:17:38.200 Well, if I ever talk to the founder of Rebel News, I'll pass on your message to him.

00:17:41.640 You sound like you know him pretty well.

00:17:45.380 What's your name?

00:17:46.320 You made a mess this morning.

00:17:55.240 Sure did.

00:17:56.600 You're swearing.

00:17:57.800 You're assaulting people.

00:17:59.180 You're shaking like a leaf.

00:18:00.780 Engaging the trolls is my problem.

00:18:03.220 But you haven't engaged.

00:18:04.040 I should not have fed the trolls under the bridge.

00:18:06.040 But you haven't engaged.

00:18:07.280 You haven't made the case.

00:18:08.520 You don't want any engagement.

00:18:10.220 There's nothing honest about what you're doing.

00:18:11.600 Why don't you make the case for the convicted terrorist?

00:18:14.980 You say...

00:18:16.020 If your assumption is faulty, it's the problem.

00:18:18.000 The French court convicted him.

00:18:19.560 How's...

00:18:19.740 I've sent you.

00:18:21.280 So are you saying that that's not a just conviction?

00:18:24.520 They tried him a second time.

00:18:26.140 They tried him a second time.

00:18:27.500 No, they only tried him the first time.

00:18:28.900 No, that's the same.

00:18:29.300 There was only one trial.

00:18:32.200 Yeah.

00:18:32.640 See, this is not an honest conversation.

00:18:34.220 Right?

00:18:34.560 Anyway, I want your camera out of my face.

00:18:36.320 And I want your mic out of my face.

00:18:37.420 It's not in your face.

00:18:38.940 Oh, okay.

00:18:39.480 Then I'll walk over here and you'll leave me alone.

00:18:41.100 Cool.

00:18:41.820 Well, I want to continue to engage with you.

00:18:44.800 This is harassment.

00:18:45.940 I haven't sworn at you.

00:18:47.100 I am going to be filing charges when campus security gets here to make sure you're never

00:18:50.660 allowed on this campus again.

00:18:52.180 Well, as long as you don't bomb me and kill me, I guess that's a step forward.

00:18:56.540 Right?

00:18:56.800 Every prophet Carlton is a bomber.

00:18:58.960 No, just one is.

00:19:00.400 Yeah.

00:19:01.620 No, but I mean, you've already told me that I am, apparently.

00:19:04.000 No, I didn't.

00:19:04.700 Right.

00:19:05.920 I wish I would have had that on camera.

00:19:11.100 I don't think students at Carlton are very good at disagreeing with people.

00:19:15.940 I don't think you've been taught how to disagree properly.

00:19:18.540 No, that's not what I spent my whole life learning.

00:19:20.100 You've sworn at me.

00:19:21.220 You've bumped up against me.

00:19:23.400 You won't say your name.

00:19:25.000 I don't think you've been properly trained to dispute anything.

00:19:28.320 Hey, how's it going?

00:19:30.160 I won't use your name out of courtesy for this situation.

00:19:34.400 Thanks, sir.

00:19:35.840 I was waiting for security to come.

00:19:41.380 Do you want to apologize for swearing?

00:19:44.660 No, I don't think so.

00:19:45.980 Is that how you handle things you disagree with?

00:19:49.420 You swear at people?

00:19:52.520 Like, seriously, surely you can do better.

00:19:55.300 You're a student at Carlton.

00:19:56.940 Yes, I am.

00:19:58.840 Or a professor or a teacher.

00:20:00.400 I don't know what you are.

00:20:01.500 I have no idea.

00:20:02.600 I mean, I understand people well into their 30s are still students.

00:20:06.340 Sort of a failure.

00:20:07.280 What's that?

00:20:08.100 You thrive on this.

00:20:09.120 What's that?

00:20:09.700 You thrive on this.

00:20:11.160 You thrive on bothering people.

00:20:12.460 So I was minding my own business, and he came up to me and swore at me.

00:20:20.160 Do you have a more articulate way of putting things?

00:20:28.680 I have no comment.

00:20:30.320 Okay, fair enough.

00:20:31.200 At least you're not swearing at me and bumping up against me.

00:20:34.480 So I'll give you credit for that.

00:20:36.380 I think you probably, I mean, the thing about a guy your age is you could be a student,

00:20:39.940 sort of a failure to launch kind of student.

00:20:41.840 Or you could be a worker here.

00:20:43.860 You never know in 2024.

00:20:45.960 Yeah, you never do.

00:20:48.400 All right.

00:20:49.040 Well, I'm going to go back to my job because I've got a job.

00:20:51.740 And I wish you good luck in overcoming your shame.

00:20:56.020 I want you to get to the point where you can engage with someone without swearing at them,

00:20:59.720 where you embrace yourself and confident enough in your position that you're willing to give your name.

00:21:06.080 I think you should reflect on the fact that you're too ashamed to own your conduct today.

00:21:10.760 Well, what is it then?

00:21:13.180 Oh, sorry.

00:21:13.620 I didn't engage.

00:21:15.320 Have a good day, sir.

00:21:16.520 All right.

00:21:16.960 I'm having a good day.

00:21:18.300 It's very educational.

00:21:19.880 The state of Carleton.

00:21:21.160 The state of Carleton is poor.

00:21:24.600 Okay.

00:21:26.260 Come back if you want to change your mind.

00:21:28.940 Okay.

00:21:32.120 Well, that was our second unsolicited interaction here at Carleton.

00:21:36.500 It really is Hassan Diab's place now. 0.99

00:21:38.680 Sure, the name Azraeli and Loeb are on the buildings, but those are people who were in their 70s, 80s, or passed away already.

00:21:48.260 I'm not sure which generation of the Loeb's and the Azraeli's helped build Carleton.

00:21:52.900 Their name's on the wall, but Hassan Diab is in the classroom's teaching.

00:21:56.800 And I don't think either of the two people I've talked to today are actually students of the convicted terrorist, but they are advocates for him.

00:22:05.300 I don't know if they're particularly good advocates.

00:22:07.600 I don't know if they know how to engage with people who disagree with them.

00:22:11.420 I read the course outline for Hassan Diab's class, and it talked about not necessarily agreeing with each other and having a respectful debate.

00:22:20.660 It's sort of odd coming from a convicted bomber, but the two people who have come up to me, and I'm not sure exactly if they're students, because they seem older.

00:22:30.860 And I mean, these days, there's people in their 20s and 30s, sort of failure to launch students for life.

00:22:37.140 So I don't know if they were students or if they were teacher's assistants or something else, but I don't think they did a very good job at disagreeing with me.

00:22:44.360 Hopefully, if someone feels passionate about this issue, they will come up to me and engage in debates.

00:22:52.900 And maybe they don't have all the facts at their fingertips, too.

00:22:55.500 I mean, I haven't read in detail the French language ruling by the French court.

00:23:00.720 But what I've seen today, just in my half hour on campus, tells me that our universities really are hothouses for extremists.

00:23:09.740 And I'm not going to say that either of these two guys were particularly violent.

00:23:13.700 Both of them did swear at me, which suggests they didn't have other words at their disposal.

00:23:18.320 And that second guy sort of physically bumped up against me, which, I mean, didn't hurt me or anything, and I'm not going to call police or sue them or anything.

00:23:26.780 But it just, like, if you disagree with someone so much, maybe you have a swearing outburst at first.

00:23:34.420 I get that.

00:23:35.960 I'm sure I've done that in my life, too.

00:23:37.740 But then, you know, a minute goes by, two minutes goes by.

00:23:41.880 Maybe you just pull back and calm down and engage in a debate.

00:23:45.120 The first guy did apologize, and we talked a bit.

00:23:47.840 And actually, I'll give him credit for that.

00:23:49.280 But that second guy, calling the police, cowardly refusal to use his own name.

00:23:55.140 If this is the state of academia in 2024, we're in trouble.

00:23:59.240 And I think it is the state of academia.

00:24:01.440 Both of these two guys I've spoken with are, I think, what we would call old stock Canadians. 0.99

00:24:06.280 They're not newcomers, and they didn't come to Canada from endemically anti-Semitic countries.

00:24:11.940 But I think that's that coalition you see of the Islamists and the leftists, the woke leftists together.

00:24:19.220 That's the trouble with Canada.

00:24:21.240 I'll let you know if anyone else chats with me or bumps up against me or swears at me.

00:24:25.360 I heard you were upset with the truck.

00:24:27.640 Is that right?

00:24:28.420 I'm sorry.

00:24:29.020 This is much of garbage.

00:24:31.020 What's wrong with it?

00:24:32.180 This is all propaganda, and it's all a lie.

00:24:34.460 And you know what?

00:24:34.920 We don't want to be intimidated.

00:24:36.580 We're Canadian.

00:24:37.460 We have rights.

00:24:38.500 You're putting a colleague of mine right there.

00:24:41.220 You know, there is a word in Canada.

00:24:43.540 Innocent until proven guilty.

00:24:45.160 So you need to exercise a proper and honest media ethic.

00:24:50.760 And don't intimidate us.

00:24:52.380 We're Canadian like you.

00:24:54.280 Okay?

00:24:54.700 We have rights like you.

00:24:56.300 So don't use media power and media propaganda to make us, we're all threat to Canada.

00:25:01.340 We're not.

00:25:02.800 Now, where do you see...

00:25:03.640 Because I have nothing to tell you more.

00:25:05.840 Okay.

00:25:06.440 And do you have a similar point of view?

00:25:09.560 Like, you know, the threshold of extradition is, like, really low.

00:25:13.640 Like, Hassan Diab has been incarcerated in France for years.

00:25:17.980 The evidence used by the French government has been just dismissed.

00:25:23.100 Dismissed by whom?

00:25:24.960 Even by the judge in...

00:25:26.640 Like, why do you think that Hassan is here?

00:25:28.820 Well, he was convicted.

00:25:30.140 No.

00:25:31.420 He was not convicted.

00:25:32.860 Why do you say he was convicted?

00:25:35.020 He was convicted by the French court.

00:25:36.720 He was convicted in absentia.

00:25:39.320 On the basis of an evidence that got dismissed by the Canadian government.

00:25:44.040 But they didn't have a trial of him.

00:25:46.760 There was no trial of Diab in Canada.

00:25:48.620 The only trial was in France.

00:25:50.120 He's not charged in Canada.

00:25:52.100 Right.

00:25:52.420 So they want to extradite him to France to face justice.

00:25:54.560 He was extradited twice.

00:25:56.140 He was incarcerated there for years.

00:25:58.200 Like, the basis of his extradition has been ruled as garbage.

00:26:08.060 Now, you said earlier that he wasn't convicted.

00:26:10.700 You know that he was convicted.

00:26:11.900 You can challenge a conviction.

00:26:13.200 You can want to appeal it.

00:26:14.500 You can dispute it.

00:26:15.560 But he was convicted.

00:26:16.860 On the basis of evidence that has been ruled to be garbage.

00:26:20.740 Okay.

00:26:21.240 I take it.

00:26:22.000 Are you familiar with the handwriting evidence that's used by the French government?

00:26:25.980 I know there were four different sources of evidence.

00:26:28.120 And listen, if he's innocent, why wouldn't he go and prove his innocence?

00:26:33.600 Why wouldn't he go and defeat the claims against him?

00:26:36.160 Why did he refuse to go to the court?

00:26:39.240 He's been there for years.

00:26:41.800 He's been incarcerated for years.

00:26:44.040 Can I ask you?

00:26:44.900 You know that.

00:26:45.720 You know that, right?

00:26:46.680 I do.

00:26:47.160 He's been incarcerated for years.

00:26:48.620 But now he's here.

00:26:49.740 Yeah.

00:26:50.060 Now he's here.

00:26:51.160 And what's the problem with that?

00:26:52.820 Well, I can put a few problems to you.

00:26:55.440 And first of all, thanks for talking with me.

00:26:58.040 How do you think a Jewish student in this class might feel?

00:27:02.420 I don't know.

00:27:03.880 What do you know about that?

00:27:04.260 Take a guess.

00:27:05.420 What do you know about that?

00:27:06.700 A Jewish student in this class, I can only imagine how it feels to have a convicted terrorist teaching at Carleton.

00:27:13.960 I mean, you may disagree with the conviction, but he is convicted.

00:27:17.120 You may disagree with it, and I accept that you disagree with it.

00:27:19.900 You say it's not fair.

00:27:21.480 You say the evidence was iffy.

00:27:24.200 And I'm hearing you.

00:27:26.140 I hear you.

00:27:27.360 But would you hear me and say that there's Jews and others on this campus

00:27:31.960 who look at the plain fact that he was convicted by a court,

00:27:35.820 and he's a pride of place here at Carleton?

00:27:39.100 Yeah.

00:27:39.600 I don't see any problem with that.

00:27:41.200 There's such a thing as wrongful conviction.

00:27:43.020 You know that.

00:27:43.380 But you're just saying that, that hasn't been made out, that he hasn't been acquitted on appeal.

00:27:50.460 Well, he has not been acquitted in France.

00:27:53.900 The government of Canada has decided that the evidence used by the French government

00:27:58.400 to call for an extradition is not grounded.

00:28:02.600 In fact, it's made up.

00:28:04.160 So, there's a dispute going on, but what we know for sure is that Hassan Diab refused to go to France

00:28:10.700 to face the trial.

00:28:12.000 The trial continued in Absentie, and he was convicted.

00:28:14.240 He was in France for years.

00:28:15.840 He was incarcerated.

00:28:16.680 We're both repeating ourselves.

00:28:17.980 I just, I want to talk more about Carleton.

00:28:20.120 So, what about you're wrongfully convicted?

00:28:22.180 But he, but...

00:28:22.820 Or you're wrongfully accused.

00:28:24.140 Don't you want the government to fight for you?

00:28:26.940 Sure, but that hasn't been made out.

00:28:28.960 That hasn't been made out yet.

00:28:30.500 Why are you saying that?

00:28:31.740 Like, Hassan's lawyer's team, in a sense, like, ordeal in court in Canada has lasted for years,

00:28:41.740 and now he's not going back because the reasons for him to go back are iffy, as you say.

00:28:49.220 Sorry, keep going.

00:28:50.680 Yeah, and so he's allowed to be here to do his work, to teach.

00:28:54.680 What's wrong with that?

00:28:55.880 Well, what's the state of anti-Semitism at Carleton?

00:28:59.900 How is it for a Jew?

00:29:01.740 I don't know.

00:29:03.100 I'm not a Jew. 0.89

00:29:04.000 Right.

00:29:04.380 Okay, but you can have empathy.

00:29:06.320 You have empathy.

00:29:06.880 I can tell you have empathy.

00:29:07.740 You have a big heart.

00:29:08.360 I can tell.

00:29:09.060 What I see at Carleton is that, like, pro-Palestinian discourses and activism has been shut down.

00:29:16.900 So...

00:29:17.660 I have no evidence of anti-Semitism.

00:29:20.320 If you think that, like, Hassan Diab teaching is a manifestation of anti-Semitism, then I think you're wrong.

00:29:26.920 So you haven't seen any anti-Semitism, but you've seen anti-Palestinian censorship.

00:29:36.240 Is that what you're saying?

00:29:36.900 Yes, that's what I'm saying.

00:29:37.820 Yeah.

00:29:38.140 Wow.

00:29:39.240 That's a different worldview than mine, and I thank you for putting it to me.

00:29:44.100 Can you give me an example?

00:29:45.140 I don't know.

00:29:45.760 I'm not a student here.

00:29:47.200 Give me an example of how that's happened at Carleton.

00:29:49.440 There was this student group, like Independent Jewish Voices, who organized an exhibition about scholasticide that was supposed to take place at the library.

00:30:03.220 This was shut down by Carleton University.

00:30:07.800 Okay.

00:30:08.020 So they were documenting the deliberate killing of scholars and education facilities in Palestine since October 7.

00:30:19.840 Can I ask you your view on Hamas?

00:30:22.100 Do you believe it's a liberation movement?

00:30:24.860 No.

00:30:25.920 Do you think it's a terrorist group?

00:30:27.040 You tell me, use your own words.

00:30:28.880 How would you describe Hamas?

00:30:31.120 I'm not sure, like, my opinion about what Hamas is, is relevant to our conversation.

00:30:35.860 I think it might be because you—

00:30:37.860 What are you doing here?

00:30:38.940 Well, I'll answer—

00:30:39.680 What are you doing here?

00:30:40.200 Why are you just disparaging a colleague?

00:30:44.760 Sure.

00:30:45.160 I'll answer—I promise I'll answer that in one minute.

00:30:47.720 But the reason I ask you what you think about Hamas is because you've told me you don't detect anti-Semitism here.

00:30:53.580 No.

00:30:53.740 You think that Hassan Diab was wrongfully accused.

00:30:57.040 You think that it's actually in some form being proven that he's not a terrorist.

00:31:00.920 And you think that actually the discrimination here has been against the Palestinian side.

00:31:05.860 So you've said all those things to me.

00:31:07.940 That is correct.

00:31:08.720 I'm not saying that Hassan Diab has been wrongfully convicted on the base of my own research.

00:31:13.780 This is on the base of—

00:31:14.940 And I hear you, and I'll accurately portray what you said.

00:31:18.480 So the reason I want to know your view on Hamas is because that could help explain to me.

00:31:22.040 If you think Hamas is a liberation group or a political group, then I would look at your earlier answers in a different light.

00:31:29.320 If you were to say Hamas is a terrorist group, I would have a different approach to your views.

00:31:34.580 I want to understand where you're coming from because you've made some judgments today.

00:31:38.360 And I want to know, are they animated by a belief that Hamas is a terrorist group or not?

00:31:45.040 I think it is important because I want to understand your thinking.

00:31:48.160 Like, I'm not condoning Hamas' violence. 0.53

00:31:51.400 If this is what you want me to say, this is not what I'm saying.

00:31:56.160 I just want you to tell me how you feel about them.

00:31:58.600 You don't have to, but I would find it useful if you did.

00:32:01.560 Like, I don't see how this is relevant.

00:32:03.040 I just don't understand why you're disparaging our colleagues here on campus.

00:32:06.940 Okay, that's, I think, easy to answer.

00:32:09.300 Not colleagues, plural, but colleague, the one man who was convicted by a French court.

00:32:15.480 On the basis of evidence that was dismissed by our government.

00:32:20.200 I think I would disagree with you in part there.

00:32:23.540 Like, this is factual.

00:32:24.860 Like, this is factual.

00:32:26.040 This is not me saying he's innocent.

00:32:27.480 This is like judges in Canada saying, like, the evidence that the French government is using is inaccurate.

00:32:34.840 It's made up.

00:32:35.960 I'm not sure if they said that.

00:32:37.320 Anyways, listen, it's been a, I've really enjoyed talking with you.

00:32:40.640 You might, you might think I'm kidding, but I'm not.

00:32:43.520 I, first of all, I appreciate the fact that you would engage with me in a debate of sorts.

00:32:48.300 Yeah.

00:32:48.960 And, and you've been polite to me too, which I appreciate because two other people were, had a lot of swears for me.

00:32:55.660 Well, this is not conducive to a polite conversation.

00:33:00.700 You're, what is being portrayed there is not a conversation.

00:33:05.180 You're not appealing to a conversation.

00:33:07.040 Well, it's, it's, it's raising awareness.

00:33:09.360 Why are you doing that?

00:33:10.220 It's not raising awareness.

00:33:11.300 This is disinformation.

00:33:12.680 But it is a fact that, that he was a convicted bomber.

00:33:16.140 You may dispute the conviction and, and disagree with the conviction, but it is a fact.

00:33:20.580 I'm not disputing.

00:33:22.720 I heard you.

00:33:25.340 And I'll, you don't have to repeat yourself again.

00:33:28.380 You've made it very clear.

00:33:29.520 And I will, I will.

00:33:31.480 Do your research.

00:33:32.780 I'm going to just talk to those security just to make sure we don't have a problem.

00:33:36.020 Nice to talk with you.

00:33:37.280 Could you tell me what, what field of study you're in?

00:33:40.060 Yeah, I'm a criminologist.

00:33:41.460 Criminologist.

00:33:42.020 Okay.

00:33:42.280 Thank you.

00:33:43.220 Hey, how are you?

00:33:44.340 Good.

00:33:44.760 I'm Ezra.

00:33:45.300 Hi, I know.

00:33:45.780 Yeah, I'm aware of you.

00:33:46.420 How do you do?

00:33:47.400 Hi, how do you do, Madame Trunot?

00:33:49.300 You are to bring this garbage on campus.

00:33:52.100 Sorry, you're interviewing campus safety now, or?

00:33:55.940 I'm just asking you a question.

00:33:57.460 We just arrived on scene.

00:33:58.600 We're just here to chat with everybody involved, figure out what's going on, and determine next

00:34:02.280 steps.

00:34:02.720 Okay.

00:34:02.880 So, you know this is a colleague in sociology?

00:34:05.180 Sorry?

00:34:05.840 You know this is a colleague in sociology?

00:34:07.600 This is a professor?

00:34:08.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:08.520 I think we're well-equipped to manage the situation.

00:34:10.900 Oh, I'm not, I'm, I'm not disputing that.

00:34:13.600 I'm just curious.

00:34:14.740 Yes, I'm aware of who that is, yeah.

00:34:16.180 Okay.

00:34:16.620 Yep.

00:34:17.120 So, this gentleman here is allowed to come and defame our colleague on campus?

00:34:22.000 We just arrived on scene.

00:34:23.160 Can you just answer my question?

00:34:25.060 Can someone come on campus and say, this colleague is a killer?

00:34:29.240 Well, they drove on campus and they're saying that, and we are now on scene.

00:34:33.040 So, what are you going to do?

00:34:35.080 Well, do you want us to address the situation with the company, or?

00:34:39.580 Can you just answer my question?

00:34:41.400 Is he allowed to do that?

00:34:43.380 Sorry, I'd like to just clarify who you are first?

00:34:45.940 I'm prof here.

00:34:46.940 Okay, I didn't know that.

00:34:47.880 Yeah.

00:34:48.260 Okay, I'm Nick with Melanie.

00:34:49.540 You're working with campus safety.

00:34:50.660 Good.

00:34:51.140 Nice to meet you.

00:34:51.860 Good.

00:34:52.720 So, is he allowed to come to campus and defame a colleague?

00:34:56.900 I, I, no.

00:34:58.520 Okay, thank you.

00:35:00.020 So, okay.

00:35:01.040 Okay, thanks.

00:35:03.120 Anyway, how are you?

00:35:05.800 I'm okay.

00:35:06.560 You know, I've had an interesting morning.

00:35:08.320 Two people have sworn at me, which I'm used to.

00:35:11.620 Okay.

00:35:11.880 And that professor actually engaged in a very interesting debate with me.

00:35:14.720 It seemed like there was an interview.

00:35:15.820 Yeah, he was pretty nice.

00:35:17.160 I mean, he very much disagrees with our message, but he was very collegial about it.

00:35:22.520 Okay.

00:35:22.700 Very college-y.

00:35:23.440 That's good to hear.

00:35:24.340 Yeah.

00:35:24.480 I don't know.

00:35:27.700 I mean, I could have a heart-to-heart with you, but I think it is part of, you know, he,

00:35:32.260 that professor, I think he was a little bit wrong.

00:35:34.240 He was saying, um...

00:35:37.000 Here, go ahead.

00:35:44.220 You have this guy who loves the truck.

00:35:46.720 What do you think of the truck?

00:35:47.920 Ah, this truck?

00:35:49.460 Yeah.

00:35:49.760 Yeah, I agree with what it says, actually.

00:35:53.680 Are you a student here?

00:35:54.900 Yes, I'm a student.

00:35:56.040 So, first of all, I want to say that I am from Russia, and we, together with family, moved here to Canada,

00:36:02.420 because in Russia, let's say, bad things are happening, the war is started, and the similar cases are there.

00:36:10.480 There are people like Ramzan Kadyrov, like Delimkhanov, if you know such names.

00:36:15.560 So, these people are used to, I can't say, used to be, because they are terrorists, like there is Ramzan Kadyrov claimed that he killed the first Russian when he was 16,

00:36:26.780 and now he is basically warlord of Chechnya, and Delimkhanov is also a terrorist, and he is a lawmaker in our parliament.

00:36:37.300 It is called Государственная дума, but it is like a parliament here, and we moved together to Canada, because we thought there would be law in order in this country.

00:36:47.720 We thought that criminals actually serve punishment here, and crime is prosecuted.

00:36:54.340 However, what I witnessed here is not really different from Putin's Russia, and I was very upset when I discovered that things like this are happening in our country,

00:37:07.300 country, I mean in Canada, and I really want this to stop, actually.

00:37:14.380 As far as I understand, there was a judicial decision made in France, claiming that this man actually committed this terror attack.

00:37:23.300 But no judicial decisions have been made in Canada, claiming that he is innocent, and he does not seek political asylum.

00:37:30.860 So, as far as I understand, there should be no legal borders to basically send him back to France, where he will serve like the punishment he deserves.

00:37:43.500 At this moment, I understand that any judicial decision can be wrong, and there is, I can lead a small chance that judicial decision of French court is wrong.

00:37:56.340 However, there are no decisions that take precedence over the decision of French court, so I really believe that this man should be deported back to France and serve life sentence in prison.

00:38:10.920 Well, you seem very well informed on this subject, and I appreciate you coming over to me, because two other students were very hostile, but they didn't really want to engage.

00:38:21.800 So, thank you very much for coming over. What field do you study in?

00:38:25.180 Physics and chemistry.

00:38:26.800 Well, nice to meet you, and thanks for stopping by.

00:38:30.000 Yeah, thank you, Tio.

00:38:31.300 Right on.

00:38:31.600 Goodbye.

00:38:32.360 Yeah, we usually do it like this in Russia.

00:38:34.540 Goodbye.

00:38:34.980 Thank you very much.

00:38:35.960 Thank you, Tio.

00:38:36.660 All right. Well, very interesting. I mean, opinion is mixed here on campus. Let's talk to the security guys.

00:38:43.660 All right. So, my goal was to come down here, broadcast the message, and engage.

00:38:51.720 If we didn't do the camera thing, would you mind?

00:38:53.240 Sure. Yeah, you know what?

00:38:54.100 I know you're allowed to.

00:38:54.640 Can I hand this to you?

00:38:55.620 Yeah.

00:38:55.940 Yes.

00:38:56.620 Well, campus security was called. I'm not sure who called them. There's a lot of people in windows looking down at us.

00:39:03.260 There were a couple of people who swore at me and then ran, and I ran with them.

00:39:06.640 There was a couple of professors who gave me a piece of their mind. I think it was the guy who swore and then was sort of nervous about himself and called campus security.

00:39:17.660 Campus security was great, by the way. They said that the one main complaint they had was that we're not parked in a proper parking area.

00:39:27.700 They said they don't actually object to the truck, and I appreciate how reasonable they were.

00:39:31.740 So, I told them that we had come here to display the truck, talk to people, and we had pretty much accomplished our goal, and I didn't want to turn this into a huge matter.

00:39:40.700 I actually respect these campus security. They were very – I think they were actually more tolerant of a diversity of views than the other people we spoke with, which is – isn't that interesting?

00:39:50.960 I don't know if the campus security folks themselves are college educated, but it seems that they have more of an open mind and more of a tolerance for diversity of opinion than the actual students here,

00:40:04.800 although we did talk to that one Russian guy who didn't have any time for Hassan Diab.

00:40:09.960 You know, one thing I heard, and it's obviously a line that has been circulated on campus, is that Hassan Diab's conviction was illegal, was controversial, was inappropriate, in some cases was false.

00:40:25.220 That one professor who spoke with me at length actually took different positions. He said he wasn't convicted, and then when I said, well, actually he was, he said, well, the information upon which he was convicted was shoddy,

00:40:37.420 and he claimed that there was a Canadian trial of some sort, which there has not been. The only people prosecuting and convicting Diab was French.

00:40:46.040 Now, I will confess, I did not read the entire conviction in French. I suppose I could get it translated, but I do know it's an incontrovertible fact that he was convicted of terrorism.

00:40:58.220 It's true, it was in absentia, but the fact that he resists going to the trial and refuses to go and to file an appeal and has found a luxurious home here at Carleton, I think is odious.

00:41:10.080 And when I asked the professor the state of anti-Semitism on campus, he denies it exists at all. He wouldn't really let me pin him down on Hamas.

00:41:21.180 And he said, in fact, the only discrimination on campus is against pro-Palestinian voices. I'm not sure if I believe that.

00:41:27.480 But I tell you one thing, the truck has again proven its worth. This truck is a conversation starter.

00:41:34.040 And the reason we got this conversation started with a truck is because, as you know, we've been renting billboard trucks at Rebel News for years.

00:41:43.400 But after the October 7th terrorist attack by Hamas against Israel, when we sought to rent the truck to do this kind of messaging,

00:41:51.160 the truck company said, Ezra, we like you, we like Rebel News, we actually agree with you, but we're afraid.

00:41:56.760 We're afraid that people will harm the truck, harm the driver, harm the company. For our own safety, we don't feel confident in Canada with this kind of messaging.

00:42:08.000 So we actually bought our own truck so we can't be censored. And look at the kind of conversations they're starting.

00:42:15.400 I love this truck. We'll continue to drive it. We'll continue to spark conversations.

00:42:20.660 I'm not sure how much I learned today from the critics. I think I'm going to look into a little bit more the extradition legalities.

00:42:30.260 I think that professor was wrong in a number of ways, but I'm going to check it out. I have an open enough mind to do that.

00:42:35.980 What I really learned today is that Canadian leftists and Canadian students are so woke and so hostile to ideas that they don't agree with,

00:42:46.960 but they don't know how to deal with them. I mean, seriously, running by me, coming up to me while I'm doing an interview or doing a commentary,

00:42:55.600 swearing at me and then running away. That's their style. Like two guys, and they were old stock Canadians. 1.00

00:43:04.060 That's sort of pitiful. Like these are the thought leaders of Canada in the future.

00:43:09.800 This is our future leaders who they don't know how to marshal their words. And I don't think I was that rude to them.

00:43:16.300 I mean, I, I said, you're ashamed and you're a coward. Those, I was just sort of poking them a bit, hoping they would say, no, I'm not.

00:43:22.680 Here's my name. But it is sort of weird that you, you go to an elite university.

00:43:27.480 I don't know if anyone calls Carlton elite, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

00:43:31.640 You go to a university, you study, you're in the world of ideas and you encounter an idea you don't like.

00:43:37.420 And the only thing you can come up with is a swear.

00:43:40.040 But I will say to that one guy in the bike room, if I ever come across the founder of Rebel News,

00:43:46.500 I'll give him a piece of my mind. In Carlton University at Ottawa, I'm Ezra LeVant.

00:43:52.140 Well, maybe you watched our kerfuffle on Sunday when a whole team of rebels, I think there were more

00:44:05.260 than a dozen of us, in support of David, to a weekly rally, a pro-Israel, pro-Canada rally,

00:44:13.760 and a counter-protest by pro-Hamas Palestinian activists.

00:44:18.640 The reason we went is not that the event itself was particularly newsworthy,

00:44:22.420 but rather that David Menzies was arrested by police for simply asking questions of the pro-Hamas side.

00:44:30.480 So a whole bunch of us put on little Panama hats. They were too little. 0.63

00:44:34.800 I think they were for kids or something. And we went there in solidarity with David.

00:44:38.780 And wouldn't you know it, the police did not arrest us this time because they saw we were serious

00:44:43.880 and we were there in numbers. And they realized the path of least resistance,

00:44:47.480 which normally is arrest David, was no longer the easiest path.

00:44:52.860 But an unfortunate thing happened, and I think it's emblematic of this whole thing,

00:44:58.760 is that one of our reporters, our star from Montreal, Quebec, Alexa Lavoie,

00:45:03.460 who had come in to show solidarity with David,

00:45:06.860 she was hit by a pro-Hamas activist with a flagpole.

00:45:12.340 We caught it on tape from two different perspectives,

00:45:15.720 and yet the policeman refused to lay charges until we made a fuss.

00:45:21.720 Here's a quick recap of what happened.

00:45:23.860 Where are you...

00:45:24.980 You mean what's your name?

00:45:26.360 Are you...

00:45:38.920 Where are you Yup?

00:45:39.920 Are you...

00:45:40.980 Why are you Policeção Tır raped? 1.00

00:45:42.960 Why are you people't like this?

00:45:43.280 Why you...

00:45:45.080 Why...

00:45:45.420 Why are you...

00:45:46.420 Why are you just going to be a ...

00:45:48.520 Why are you...

00:45:49.600 Why are you...

00:45:50.180 Because they get you white? 0.81

00:45:51.020 Are you...

00:45:51.860 No, I did nothing.

00:45:52.860 Yes, you did.

00:45:53.860 Yes, you did.

00:45:54.860 Yes, you did.

00:45:55.860 Yes, you did.

00:45:56.860 No, I did nothing.

00:45:57.860 Stay right here.

00:45:58.860 He pushed me.

00:45:59.860 Stay right here.

00:46:00.860 Violently.

00:46:01.860 He pushed me violently.

00:46:02.860 Have it on camera.

00:46:03.860 He pushed me.

00:46:04.860 Violently.

00:46:05.860 He pushed me violently.

00:46:06.860 Have it on camera.

00:46:08.860 This guy...

00:46:09.860 Alexa, are you okay?

00:46:10.860 I'm okay.

00:46:11.860 Oh, that makes me so mad.

00:46:13.860 And by the way, the same pro-Hamas activist on several occasions, as you can see in the

00:46:20.060 background here, he's been harassing our journalists for months.

00:46:24.060 I tell you all this because we're going to go right now to talk to our Montreal star,

00:46:29.060 who right now is just across the border in New York State, in the city of Plattsburgh,

00:46:35.060 where she's doing a story on migrants crossing from America into Canada.

00:46:40.060 I'm going to ask her about that very important story, but first I want to catch up with her

00:46:45.060 on the assault against her by the Hamas activists.

00:46:48.060 And joining us now via Skype from Plattsburgh, New York, is Alexa Lavois.

00:46:52.060 Alexa, great to see you again.

00:46:54.060 And I'm excited to hear your news from Plattsburgh.

00:46:57.060 But first, I just want to check in with you about what happened on Sunday.

00:47:02.060 Tell us in your own words what happened.

00:47:05.060 I think we saw, basically out of the blue, this guy hits you with the flagpole.

00:47:09.060 Is that how it was like on your end?

00:47:11.060 Yes, of course.

00:47:13.060 I went over there because someone was whispering something to all the protesters.

00:47:19.060 And I was curious to know what he is saying.

00:47:22.060 And when I arrived towards this guy, he actually reacted really aggressively.

00:47:30.060 And he tried to hit me twice with his flagpole.

00:47:34.060 And at one point, I had to protect myself.

00:47:38.060 And I was pushed and I almost fell on the ground.

00:47:44.060 Yeah.

00:47:45.060 I'm glad it was broken up really quickly.

00:47:47.060 Actually, one of our other staff, Yankee Pollock, I think he intervened.

00:47:51.060 Police were standing at about 10 feet away.

00:47:53.060 I don't think they were focused on this guy in fairness to them.

00:47:57.060 But when we went to the police and said, take a look at the footage, they refused at first,

00:48:02.060 which I found atrocious that they said they had better things to do.

00:48:05.060 But you have a little bit of news for us today, and I'm excited to hear it.

00:48:10.060 Just before we turn the camera on, you told me that you just received a phone call from the Toronto Police Service.

00:48:17.060 And again, you don't have to give away all the details of the call,

00:48:20.060 but it sounds like they're contacting you to follow up.

00:48:24.060 Is that correct?

00:48:26.060 Yes.

00:48:27.060 They called me to follow up and to get my statement about what happened Sunday.

00:48:33.060 OK, well, that is the first step in an investigation to get the victim's report.

00:48:38.060 So I'm glad they called.

00:48:40.060 And that was a question because the commander on the scene did promise to follow up.

00:48:46.060 I'm glad to hear it.

00:48:47.060 Since Sunday, as I mentioned, we've discovered that this same criminal has been harassing people, not just our staff,

00:48:54.060 but there's a street citizen journalist named Karim Assad who's been harassed by him, too.

00:49:01.060 I just want to say to you what I said to David, which is that we're going to back you 100 percent.

00:49:06.060 I'm glad you weren't injured or anything serious, but an assault is an assault nonetheless.

00:49:11.060 And he used a weapon.

00:49:12.060 Assaulting someone with a flagpole is is outrageous, even though you weren't injured.

00:49:17.060 We will help you pursue this.

00:49:19.060 And I've already spoken to an excellent criminal lawyer that we use for David Menzies.

00:49:24.060 And I don't want to get into too much detail now because we're just in very early days.

00:49:28.060 But I find it encouraging that the Toronto Police have, in fact, contacted you.

00:49:32.060 And we will give you whatever support you need.

00:49:35.060 Thank you very much for supporting me.

00:49:38.060 And it's why we all came last Sunday in solidarity and in support for David Menzies, who also got handcuffed and arrested aggressively.

00:49:51.060 I was really shocked to see that.

00:49:53.060 Yeah.

00:49:54.060 Well, I'm going to do my best to to stand with you and David and any of our staff who are attacked either, God forbid, by police or by street activists like this guy.

00:50:05.060 All right.

00:50:06.060 I just wanted to talk about that because it was on my mind and I hadn't seen you since Sunday.

00:50:11.060 But let's talk about the exciting project you're on now.

00:50:14.060 You and our colleague Lincoln Jay have put together a little introduction for what you're doing in New York.

00:50:20.060 So just to catch up our viewers who haven't seen it yet.

00:50:23.060 Here is our GuardTheBorder.com project.

00:50:27.060 Take a look.

00:50:28.060 Have illegal crossings increased since Trump's victory?

00:50:32.060 Are we prepared for what might be coming?

00:50:36.060 What is the current situation at the border?

00:50:39.060 These are the questions my colleague Lincoln Jay and I will be working to answer in the coming days.

00:50:47.060 I'm currently in Plattsburgh, New York, investigating illegal crossings.

00:50:52.060 But yesterday, we conducted an extensive overview on the Canadian side in Quebec, which is a hot spot for people to illegally jump the border.

00:51:03.060 With over 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S., Trump's promises of massive deportations and Canada's already struggling immigration system.

00:51:15.060 Are we truly prepared?

00:51:17.060 Do we have the resources in place to handle a potential influx?

00:51:22.060 Premier François Legault, who has repeatedly urged the Trudeau government to reduce immigration into Quebec,

00:51:30.060 he seems to distrust through those open border policies.

00:51:35.060 In response, Legault has announced the deployment of the Sûreté du Québec, SQ, for border surveillance.

00:51:44.060 But will this really make a difference?

00:51:47.060 We created GuardTheBorder.com to keep you informed about the border situation.

00:51:53.060 There, you will find all our reports and you can support our hard work with a donation.

00:52:00.060 While mainstream media parrots Trudeau's narrative.

00:52:05.060 We are committed to bringing you the truth from the ground.

00:52:10.060 Well, that's very exciting because Donald Trump has said he's going to have a mass deportation.

00:52:16.060 And some people will leave willingly.

00:52:19.060 Some people, you know, will try and hide.

00:52:23.060 But what we've seen before is that when Donald Trump was first elected, tens of thousands of people just decided to walk across the border into Canada.

00:52:33.060 That could happen again, right?

00:52:35.060 Oh, of course.

00:52:36.060 And it's more than certain because I spoke with some border patrol and I spoke with the Department of the Sheriff of the Clinton County.

00:52:48.060 And them, they are looking into an increase of influence that might come soon.

00:52:57.060 Now, tell me about Roxham Road itself, that very small road.

00:53:03.060 And there's this little ditch, no fence, no nothing.

00:53:07.060 You went there many times.

00:53:09.060 Have you been there again on this journey?

00:53:12.060 Did you see?

00:53:13.060 Is there a fence there?

00:53:14.060 Is anyone crossing?

00:53:16.060 Are the RCMP still there?

00:53:18.060 So you just said that this could and is likely to happen again.

00:53:22.060 What's the state of it right now?

00:53:25.060 Is it closed right now?

00:53:26.060 Are there cops there right now?

00:53:28.060 No, there is no cop.

00:53:30.060 There is some RCMP who are patrolling around.

00:53:35.060 But as me and Lincoln Jay, we saw, it's multiple, multiple roads end up in the end of the street where there is a little fence stopping maybe a car to cross over, but not a human being.

00:53:51.060 So at Roxham Road, there is no fence.

00:53:54.060 There is only a small, they dig a ditch with a little bit of water that separate the USA and Canada just for, I think it's a prevention for the car to not drive straight into the US.

00:54:09.060 So what we saw is there is not enough RCMP on the ground to cover the, I think it's thousands of kilometers of unprotected border.

00:54:23.060 There is camera around, but like the time, like just an example, me and Lincoln Jay, we went to one of this end of street during the night.

00:54:32.060 And I did count how many times it took for the RCMP to reach out to us.

00:54:39.060 So we were not in a hurry.

00:54:42.060 We were filming and everything.

00:54:44.060 And we stayed at this place for about 30 minutes.

00:54:50.060 And afterwards we started driving up until that we finally got pulled over to be, for being questioned.

00:55:01.060 And they, they say to us that they open a criminal investigation because we were over there.

00:55:05.060 But if the person did speed or hide his car, close the lights, how the RCMP will have been able to catch them because there is no camera along the main road.

00:55:22.060 So my point is, if they took about 30 to 40 minutes to find us, this, this is just a long reaction for, for many, many people who are coming in with coyote or humans trafficking.

00:55:41.060 They are letting them buy car, they walk over the land.

00:55:46.060 And after that, someone else is pick, pick up, pick them up on the American side.

00:55:52.060 So, um, I found a lot of people advertising, uh, those illegal crossing.

00:55:58.060 Um, there is many of them.

00:56:01.060 And just today I found many, many different accounts.

00:56:04.060 Some accounts from Toronto who are bringing them to the Quebec border.

00:56:08.060 Wow.

00:56:09.060 This, this is just, uh, insane what is happening at our border.

00:56:13.060 Wow.

00:56:14.060 Well, I hope you do your reports in English, but also in French, because of course, Roxham Road is the border between New York and between Quebec.

00:56:23.060 And I think of all the premiers, the Quebec premier has been the most vocal with his concerns about immigration.

00:56:30.060 He's concerned about legal immigration too.

00:56:33.060 He's talked about temporary foreign workers and students.

00:56:36.060 But of course, illegal immigrants are even less, uh, desirable because many of them have a criminal record, which is why they were refused, um, permission to stay in the United States. 0.99

00:56:48.060 Here's, here's something that's been on my mind.

00:56:50.060 In my mind, a couple of months ago, there was a lot of stories out of Springfield, Ohio, which had a huge influx of Haitians and Haitians have had temporary rights to stay in America because the country of Haiti is basically in the civil war, to be honest.

00:57:06.060 But if that permission is removed, you will have tens of thousands, maybe over a hundred thousand Haitians who will have to leave.

00:57:15.060 And I'm, uh, Haiti, I actually have been there.

00:57:18.060 It's a really rough country.

00:57:20.060 There's a lot of violence.

00:57:21.060 I wouldn't, even if I was Haitian, I wouldn't want to go back there. 1.00

00:57:25.060 But Montreal has a large Haitian community.

00:57:28.060 Montreal, of course, speaks French.

00:57:30.060 So you could see, theoretically, tens of thousands, not just a trickle, but a flood coming across.

00:57:39.060 And I don't think the Canadian government is ready.

00:57:43.060 I don't even know if they care, but I know they're not ready.

00:57:47.060 What do you think?

00:57:49.060 They are not ready.

00:57:51.060 And it's really funny because this coincide with the sprung shelters that Ottawa wants to build in small community.

00:58:00.060 And those community who are mostly from immigrant background, they are pushing back against that because they say, we came legally here.

00:58:09.060 We have limited resources.

00:58:12.060 And you are talking about putting 150 single men asylum claimants in one big sprung shelters in the middle of a community where children is everywhere.

00:58:27.060 Right.

00:58:28.060 So, um, this is a problem.

00:58:30.060 And you know, the biggest problem that we have, there is no consequences for the people who are crossing illegally the border.

00:58:39.060 And I spoke with one of the, um, RCMP.

00:58:43.060 And you know what they say to me?

00:58:45.060 I say, okay, if we put that in the theory that I'm actually, um, a human trafficker and behind me, there is immigrant that I'm actually driving around.

00:58:58.060 What would be the next step if you caught me?

00:59:01.060 And they say, okay, but we will, uh, lay some criminal charges against, uh, the driver for facilitating the, uh, entry into the country.

00:59:10.060 And I say, what about the immigrant?

00:59:12.060 Right.

00:59:13.060 They say, but we will put criminal charge too.

00:59:16.060 But I say, but if they are claiming asylum, what will happen?

00:59:21.060 They say all charge will be dropped.

00:59:24.060 Huh.

00:59:25.060 You know, there is no such thing as a refugee from America.

00:59:30.060 America is a safe country with the rule of law.

00:59:33.060 And it's a, it's a, you know, you may disagree with this policy or that policy, but no one is in danger in America.

00:59:42.060 And the idea that we would even consider a refugee application is doesn't make sense.

00:59:48.060 Frankly, the idea of a safe third party agreement we have with America says you can't be a refugee from Canada to America.

00:59:55.060 You can't be a refugee from America to Canada, but the countries don't seem to be enforcing this.

01:00:00.060 And now Alexa, I'm really glad you're down there.

01:00:02.060 How long are you going to be on this project?

01:00:04.060 How long do you plan to stay in New York?

01:00:06.060 So I think we are going to stay overnight because there is another area where there were a lot of crossing happening.

01:00:18.060 So we want to investigate on that side.

01:00:20.060 Also, I tried to reach out to the main spokesperson for the sheriff department.

01:00:27.060 So we, we wish we will have like a call back because they are allowed and they, they, they need to talk.

01:00:37.060 So they did the whole and their duty is actually deliver the information to the public.

01:00:44.060 And I would say, if we want as Canadians to have more information about what is going on at the border, the transparency is more mainly in the U.S. side.

01:00:58.060 Isn't that interesting?

01:00:59.060 If you try to have information on the Canadian side, you might end up with nothing.

01:01:05.060 I believe you.

01:01:06.060 Well, listen, I'm very excited you're down there.

01:01:08.060 It looks lovely.

01:01:09.060 It looks a little chilly.

01:01:10.060 I'm glad you're wearing your rebel toque.

01:01:12.060 Um, by the way, you can get that rebel toque at our store, rebel news store.com.

01:01:16.060 I have the same toque.

01:01:17.060 I love wearing it.

01:01:18.060 Um, stay warm, stay safe, of course, because, uh, not just the migrants themselves, but the people who smuggle them.

01:01:26.060 We know from that they have attacked rebel reporters on two different occasions.

01:01:31.060 So stay safe.

01:01:32.060 No story is worth getting hurt over.

01:01:35.060 Um, and, uh, by the way, I'm glad that the Toronto police have, in fact, called you about what happened on Sunday.

01:01:41.060 Keep in touch, my friend.

01:01:42.060 Thanks for the update.

01:01:43.060 Bye-bye.

01:01:44.060 Bye-bye.

01:01:45.060 There you have it.

01:01:46.060 Alexa Lavoie in Plattsburgh, New York, which is near the Roxham Road border crossing.

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Rebel News Podcast - November 21, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News exposes convicted terrorist bomber teaching at Carleton University

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