Rebel News Podcast - September 10, 2025


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Rebel News remembers Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk


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00:00:00.000 oh hi everybody as we're here just jumping in with a quick recording from london i recorded
00:00:10.320 the earlier part of today's show when i was in toronto and then i hopped on a plane overnight
00:00:15.700 to come to the uk where we're having our conference on freedom and mass immigration
00:00:22.000 and tommy robinson culminating in tommy's rally on saturday when i heard the shocking and terrifying
00:00:29.320 and heartbreaking news that charlie kirk the conservative pro-america activist had been shot
00:00:36.720 and died as terrible news for anyone to be murdered in that way political assassination is shocking in
00:00:45.960 larger ways and he's a great man who loved the west and in fact the very ideas that we're focusing on
00:00:53.340 at this conference western culture defending west against violence we i'm not going to speculate
00:01:00.480 on who it was that murdered charlie but it's a shocking piece of news and i just wanted to
00:01:05.460 commemorate his passing and and um have him in our hearts he was kind to canada he loved canada
00:01:12.320 even when we maybe didn't deserve it so much he loved rebel news and was kind enough to give us
00:01:17.640 a forum to promote our ideas to the larger world and uh we miss him and i'm worried about america
00:01:24.440 without him he was such an important voice for and to young people i truly believe that he moved
00:01:31.320 hundreds of thousands maybe millions of young people towards freedom ideas and pro-western pro-american
00:01:38.140 ideas and i worry that he will leave an enormous void behind him so um i want to share with you a few of my
00:01:47.240 moments with charlie kirk over the years may he rest in peace ezra i want to go back in time because
00:01:54.200 we just we're we're recollecting on the january 6th and how far we have come i think there's a similar
00:02:00.460 type of moment that deserves recollection where you guys had your dark winter of the soul which was the
00:02:07.040 canadian trucker incident which if i'm not mistaken was three years ago or four years ago i can't quite
00:02:13.360 remember february 2022 okay yes okay three years ago so no no no thank you similar type of time span
00:02:22.360 where that in my personal opinion looking as an american into your country seemed as if where you
00:02:30.200 guys really turned a corner into soviet style totalitarianism walk us through this ezra how those
00:02:37.240 events unfolded and how you guys never gave up it was the most important uh civil liberties moment in
00:02:44.280 a generation in canada all of our federal political parties were think-alikes when it came to the
00:02:50.820 lockdowns and forced vaccine mandates there was a no-fly list in canada if you weren't jabbed you could
00:02:57.600 not fly you could not get on a ship in the second largest country in the world you couldn't fly
00:03:02.540 it was very authoritarian and we had a weak conservative a name only conservative leader
00:03:09.560 back then who was cool with all this so who was there to fight for our freedom no professors no media
00:03:17.380 no political party independent truckers on their own started a convoy to ottawa because they had been
00:03:26.140 hit with a vaccine mandate which is crazy truckers are the most solitary workers other than maybe a
00:03:31.460 lighthouse captain and to say that the truckers now had to get a jab to continue to work so all
00:03:37.600 these truckers started this long convoy to ottawa and it just grew and grew and grew and soon it was
00:03:42.960 100 kilometers long and people came out just to view it with their own eyes it was the first real thing
00:03:48.500 they saw in in a year because of all the propaganda on tv and because it was sort of leaderless and it
00:03:54.680 was self-funded and organic people thought saw this is the first real thing and it started to embarrass
00:04:00.180 trudeau because they went to ottawa now trudeau thought uh-huh this is my january 6th moment i'm
00:04:07.600 gonna play the democrat message track from january 6th these are violent insurrectionists domestic
00:04:14.840 extremists he tried all that but it didn't work because the truckers were completely peaceful they
00:04:20.960 didn't storm any building they had bouncy castles and hot tubs and their their niceness their canadianness
00:04:30.160 shamed trudeau and he was starting to lose face so then he pulled the emergency ripcord justin trudeau
00:04:37.740 brought in martial law he declared a national emergency we didn't even have that on 9-11 charlie
00:04:44.820 this is the first time the law has ever been used and it put canada under a form of martial law
00:04:51.800 and his he and his deputy without any legal process started seizing and freezing private bank accounts
00:05:00.520 of anyone who they could find at this protest hundreds and hundreds of families suddenly when
00:05:07.460 they went to the grocery store their credit cards their banks were frozen it was an outrageous violation
00:05:12.780 of civil liberties and who knows how far he would have gone that was our moment and i think canadians
00:05:21.480 looked into the abyss and said whoa what has happened to us the true north strong and free and charlie if
00:05:29.420 you look at the polls that was when trudeau started to fall and the two and a half yeah that's right
00:05:35.740 and so that was the most terrible and wonderful moment in my lifetime in canada when ordinary
00:05:44.100 grassroots people stood up to trudeau and stood up to the regime media charlie all the media in canada
00:05:51.960 agreed with trudeau on martial law they agreed with demonizing these ordinary truckers they wanted
00:05:59.020 trudeau to go further they were happy to write the script the same way the democrats did on jan 6
00:06:05.680 so it was a moment where ordinary people i would use the word the proletariat because these were
00:06:12.360 grassroots ordinary unfancy people they stared down trudeau trudeau blinked and we are freer now
00:06:20.640 because of it by the way last point i mentioned that back then canada had a conservative in name
00:06:27.500 only leader of the conservative party and he told his mps you're not allowed to even meet with the
00:06:34.400 truckers while his mps had a revolt sacked him as leader went to hang out with the truckers and
00:06:41.520 that's when the conservative party of canada chose the real conservative pierre polyev so the truckers
00:06:47.880 not only saved canada from trudeau the truckers helped renovate and rejuvenate the conservative
00:06:54.840 party pierre polyev who is set to have the biggest election win in canadian history if polls hold up
00:07:01.400 he is the party leader because of the truckers charlie
00:07:06.180 mm-hmm so so ezra one minute remaining here and i do want to keep you for another segment
00:07:13.620 do you believe that this can be the beginning of a more robust conservative common sense realignment
00:07:20.020 oh yes and i look forward to pierre polyev and donald trump working together constructively let's be
00:07:26.180 honest trump and trudeau hate each other it is a mutual thing and that would be bad for both
00:07:32.180 countries especially bad for canada because we're the smaller partner in the partnership but you put
00:07:37.840 a thoughtful canada first freedom loving conservative in office in canada and have him
00:07:44.780 and donald trump have a heart to heart you're going to get things done for both countries on trade
00:07:50.140 on border control on national defense on foreign policy trudeau is being pro hamas pierre polyev is
00:07:57.320 not you're going to see our two countries become best friends again charlie i'm very excited about it
00:08:03.640 there is a widespread western revolt against beta male open border liberalism there is a widespread
00:08:13.340 revolt in the west to close our borders kick out the invaders shrink inflation and to restore national
00:08:24.180 sovereignty in alpha male renaissance breaking news today justin trudeau is resigning as governor i mean
00:08:34.400 prime minister of canada joining us now is ezra levant a canadian journalist and rebelnews.com
00:08:43.080 ezra i kind of want to say congratulations because you guys have been investigating and criticizing
00:08:51.140 um this maniac and this lunatic for quite some time i have a couple different questions i want to talk
00:08:58.700 about as regards to how this all works but first walk us through this breaking news ezra sure trudeau has
00:09:05.540 announced that he's resigning but not till march 24th now he's resigning just days before he was
00:09:13.020 having a caucus meeting where his own liberal mps were going to demand that he resign so he's preempting
00:09:19.880 them but he's doing a sneaky move charlie in a parliamentary system like canada has in parliament
00:09:26.920 that's our version of congress the ordinary mps members of parliament can vote no confidence and bring
00:09:33.180 the government down and force an election so trudeau has asked the governor general that's the king's
00:09:39.580 representative in canada to dissolve parliament it's called proroguing so not only did trudeau not
00:09:46.440 really resign today he's kicked the can down the road almost three months but he's dissolved parliament
00:09:52.940 so no house of commons business can happen no bills can be passed no question period where people
00:10:00.080 scrutinize the government but mainly charlie he's not letting mps have a vote of no confidence so in a
00:10:08.600 way he's suspended democracy just to give himself three more months of power and perks so i guess
00:10:16.460 one cheer not two cheers for three cheers for what happened today so just walk through the process of
00:10:25.820 why this took so long and do you believe one of the reasons he is stepping down is this western
00:10:33.320 trend that is rejecting leaders like trudeau harris biden and that are going towards leaders like
00:10:41.620 maroney um malay that are going towards leaders like bukele like trump and maybe even paul of air
00:10:49.440 it do you do you think that is playing into trudeau's calculus here well it's part of it the
00:10:55.720 conservative leader in canada is pretty good his name is pierre polyev he's pretty right wing i mean
00:11:02.520 right wing in canada isn't quite right wing in the u.s but polyev is excellent on economics and fiscal
00:11:09.080 and monetary policy he's gotten a lot firmer on immigration not donald trump firm but better than
00:11:16.120 any leader we've had in decades he's talked about replacing the woke culture in our military with a
00:11:23.580 warrior culture um and most importantly in my mind charlie pierre polyev has a trump-like approach
00:11:32.180 to partisan media he calls out reporters in real time he has promised to defund our state broadcaster
00:11:41.760 called the cbc so i'm quite encouraged about pierre polyev um i think the fact that he's strong and you
00:11:49.820 know you could say the phrase alpha male that's sort of part of it but i think trudeau has had so
00:11:54.860 many scandals and so much corruption and he's been so badly behaved over the last months that his time
00:12:00.980 was coming up i mean trudeau has been polling so low last poll i saw put him at 16 and his party
00:12:10.360 mps are worried they're going to be wiped out so they were going to vote to kick him out on wednesday
00:12:16.160 charlie this is trudeau just buying himself three more months and leaving on his own terms he was
00:12:22.840 going to be fired on wednesday from a country that we're uh having a little tussle with right now
00:12:28.900 but we just love this guy he's a patriot and he could be an honorary american anytime he wants he's
00:12:34.040 a freedom fighter ezra levant canadian journalist rebelnews.com ezra before we get into the plan of
00:12:40.740 which you have authored and you made the case in uh the wall street journal i i want to just kind of
00:12:47.420 just take a step back here and how are canadians processing all of this uh between uh our two
00:12:54.280 countries well the liberal party of canada uh they've decided that it's easier to run against
00:13:00.900 donald trump in the next election than to run against the canadian conservative leader in the
00:13:05.820 next election so you've never seen a canadian election like this before all the liberals are
00:13:11.500 talking about is trump and by the way trudeau is gone now but we've got trudeau 2.0 a guy named mark
00:13:19.480 carney who is even worse he was on the board of the world economic forum he's got three passports he's
00:13:26.700 the ultimate globalist he was the head of the state bank the federal reserve uh it's called the bank of
00:13:32.860 canada and then he went over to the uk and he headed the bank of england and while he was there
00:13:38.620 he was friends with elaine maxwell jeffrey epstein's right-hand woman so this guy is the worst i don't
00:13:46.580 even think he lives in canada his wife still lives in new york where she works he was selected in a
00:13:53.280 kamala harris style fake primary where foreign nationals were allowed to vote and children as young
00:14:00.560 as 14 so this guy was installed and he's going straight to the top of the canadian political
00:14:06.460 food chain and he has decided that running against america running on an anti-america platform and
00:14:13.560 obviously anti-trump is his way to win trouble is that's terrible for ordinary canadians but
00:14:19.920 so explain this to me is that was this a party vote what what i mean what exactly was the process here
00:14:26.560 yeah trudeau for nine years he's been in so many scandals people are sick of him so he resigned
00:14:34.600 and he said i'm out of here as soon as the party chooses a successor to me so they had an internal
00:14:40.940 vote but that internal vote is so fishy 400 000 people registered to vote but only 150 000 of those
00:14:49.920 were qualified and certified and verified so more than half of the votes were not qualified what the
00:14:56.560 heck was going on and like i said you didn't have to be a canadian citizen to vote and you didn't have
00:15:02.960 to be a grown-up so 14 year olds and foreign citizens chose our new prime minister and he goes straight to
00:15:11.840 the top it would be as if kamala harris became president but at least she was on a ballot in
00:15:18.420 2020 this is so undemocratic and and he he doesn't have a mandate he's down in the polls and he knows
00:15:27.460 that fighting with trump will prick canadians to come he's playing captain canada but the trouble is
00:15:34.840 when you fight with trump over economics you're gonna get hurt it's just a fact america is 10 times
00:15:41.800 bigger than us and i'm really worried that there's what's called a moral hazard here if you know what
00:15:47.540 i mean donald trump is used to negotiating with people who want a deal and trump is the one who's
00:15:54.080 not afraid to walk away that's how trump did it in new york city when he was a real estate developer
00:15:58.460 but in this case trump is the one who wants a deal but it's in the liberal party's interest
00:16:04.300 not to get one they want the fight and believe it or not they want the economic damage that the
00:16:11.020 fight will cause so they can blame trump for our looming recession rather than their own economics
00:16:17.120 it's really the worst of times in canadian politics but more to the point i hate the fact that we're
00:16:22.680 fighting it's like batman and robin are fighting we're we're the junior partner there's no doubt about
00:16:28.040 it but i think we've got a friendship and a respect and uh like i can't think of two countries that are
00:16:33.480 better friends and i'm worried that our liberal leaders are wrecking that just to win an election
00:16:39.500 i i i think you're right and look i i think all this is going to simmer down i i have great respect
00:16:44.700 for canadian patriots not trudeau but the the rank and file of canadians have always been so decent
00:16:50.460 and so good to us and i think the 51st state thing is just it's just a negotiation
00:16:55.860 ezra welcome to the program ezra uh take some time and educate our audience on what you went
00:17:01.280 through this last weekend what is going on in the unfree country of canada thanks charlie great
00:17:07.560 to be back on the show and consider canada a warning to americans if you don't hold tight to
00:17:13.380 your constitutional freedoms especially your first amendment you will go down the path like canada
00:17:19.180 and the united kingdom so consider us a warning from your near future i live in a fairly jewish
00:17:26.260 neighborhood in north toronto and i saw online that some pro hamas extremists came right into
00:17:32.900 this residential neighborhood like there's no political targets here there's no embassy or
00:17:37.500 anything they just came to an area with apartment buildings where jews live and they recreated the
00:17:43.560 final moments of yaya sinwar that's the the now deceased leader of the hamas terrorist group so they set
00:17:51.480 up this whole ornate display it was really gross and i thought wow that's crazy it would be like
00:17:57.340 someone setting up a hitler display or you know frankly burning the kkk burning across outside a
00:18:04.540 a black church so i went down there because i'm a journalist i run rebel news and i went in pretty
00:18:09.460 low-key i just wanted to take a photograph of this insane insane sort of display and the police came up to
00:18:17.300 me and said you're not allowed to do that i said well i i live here i'm a citizen i'm a neighbor
00:18:22.900 i'm on the public sidewalk i'm not even talking to these hamas folks i'm just taking a photo and the
00:18:29.880 police sort of must a strong arm me away now that bothered me but yeah i wasn't going to do anything
00:18:35.860 about it but another cop came up and said your mere presence here just by being here is illegal
00:18:43.580 because it's quote causing a disturbance and inciting the crowd and you can see there's some
00:18:51.040 activists behind the cops they're waving palestinian flags they weren't criticizing me as a journalist
00:18:56.240 they were criticizing me as a jew they were saying talking about the intifada and and they were talking
00:19:01.840 about genocide and stuff now i'm i'm a free speech absolutist by the way i mean i find that sort of
00:19:07.640 gross but the cops were basically saying you cannot stand on the street because these jew haters
00:19:15.880 will be triggered and i said well i'm sorry they don't have a veto over my civil rights well these
00:19:22.740 cops took the path of least resistance they knew it was easier to arrest me because i wouldn't riot
00:19:28.320 so they arrested me handcuffed me took me to jail and they were acting as the concierge for these pro
00:19:36.740 hamas extremists right in the middle of a jewish neighborhood and what gets me is since when do
00:19:42.340 they run errands for the terrorists if they're law enforcement officers enforce the law let me stand
00:19:48.120 on a sidewalk and if these thugs really are going to hurt me don't arrest me protect me or arrest them
00:19:55.500 and by the way a lot of them are foreign nationals who have no legal right to even be in canada so that's
00:20:00.660 what happened to me yesterday i finally did get out of jail and the and by the way the police at the jail
00:20:06.220 were quite nice to me i think they realized this was bs but this has happened five times in 2024
00:20:12.720 to one of our other journalists so this is now a half a dozen times journalists have been arrested
00:20:18.880 simply for doing journalism in canada beware americans we are a warning about your future
00:20:24.320 so i i just ezra just re-educate the audience i guess you don't have a first amendment at all nor did
00:20:33.220 you you had your charter a declaration of rights but it means absolutely nothing and just so we are
00:20:39.900 clear you are doing an act of journalism yes correct this was an act of journalism appearance that's
00:20:45.980 right i i'm a that's what i do full time it happened to me in my neighborhood so it was very quick for me
00:20:50.880 to go over there the police know us because we have you know interacted with many of them before
00:20:57.000 um there was this one moment where i said to one of the senior cops i said you're not the law he said
00:21:03.840 yes i am the law i said no you're a servant of the law charlie we do have a watered down version of
00:21:10.180 your first amendment it's section 2b of our charter and it specifically protects the free press and and
00:21:16.820 and it looks good on paper but it has never been interpreted as boldly as the american first amendment but
00:21:23.580 still in canada what this cop did to me was illegal it violated my rights trouble is i've got to now go
00:21:32.000 to court sue the police and maybe in two years time i'll have my hearing in the meantime like i say this
00:21:38.520 is the sixth time they've simply snatched our reporters off the street in this case it was me
00:21:43.820 and they interfere with us because by the time justice catches up to them charlie it's one two three
00:21:50.520 years into the future believe it or not one of our reporters was actually shot by a mountie during
00:21:57.220 the trucker convoy not with a bullet but with a riot gun and she was injured and the police absolutely
00:22:04.440 targeted her that was the only shooting in the entire it was the only act of violence in the entire
00:22:10.160 trucker convoy was a cop shooting a rebel news reporter which is astonishing so we're still in court
00:22:16.940 over that justice up here is very slow and in the meantime the cops do what they want and unfortunately
00:22:23.220 they become woke especially the mounties and the toronto police service they're run i'm i think a lot
00:22:30.260 of the beat cops are pretty good people and they don't understand this new two-tier policing they don't
00:22:35.700 understand why they have to be concierges for these pro-hamas folks there was actually another pro-hamas
00:22:41.260 protest in toronto that they blocked off a road into a residential neighborhood they blocked it
00:22:46.900 they they stopped jews from coming and going to their homes and what did the police do you're
00:22:52.600 going to find this astonishing charlie they brought coffee and donuts to the hamas blockade to keep them
00:22:59.940 warm because it was chilly out the police literally brought coffee and donuts to these pro-hamas thugs
00:23:06.320 and i say pro-hamas because they are they like they're reenacting these terrorist moments they're
00:23:12.780 shouting for death to the jews and and what gets me is the cops said because you're upsetting them
00:23:20.020 your presence here is illegal i don't live in gaza i live in canada and unfortunately the cops are
00:23:27.060 acting like sharia police instead of canadian police charlie so ezra i know i mentioned this
00:23:31.940 previously but i want to reiterate it can you talk and speak to the importance of what you wish you had
00:23:38.600 as far as alternative media and free speech what if canada had the so canada's like the size of
00:23:45.660 california so just in california imagine if you had free media open media alternative media influencers
00:23:53.360 and laws that allow you to do those things what would canada look like it would be completely different
00:23:58.960 we are constantly fighting for even basic freedom of speech and freedom of the press and it is a very
00:24:05.020 costly battle because we do not have the first amendment we have something that's sort of a
00:24:10.280 photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy version of the first amendment but it's subject to so many
00:24:16.620 limitations we rely on it to fight back all the time i mentioned earlier that there's a leaders
00:24:21.960 debate that the government runs here that's weird in itself but why would trudeau nationalize debates
00:24:28.060 the answer is to choose who gets to attend including journalists twice rebel news was
00:24:34.220 banned from attending simply because they didn't like our conservative tilt twice we managed to go
00:24:40.100 to the federal court and get a court order allowing us in so the freedom of speech is there enough that
00:24:46.320 occasionally we can win but we're always running to the courts because there's a political culture
00:24:51.780 that doesn't value free speech anymore we have things called the human rights commissions which are
00:24:57.320 nothing of the sort they basically weaponize any complaints that you're making mean tweets
00:25:02.660 justin trudeau introduced a terrifying bill called c63 the online harms act that would have made it
00:25:10.840 literally against the law to hurt people's feelings and truth is not a defense fair comment is not a
00:25:16.520 defense religious conviction is not a defense that bill was sort of evaporated by the election but i
00:25:23.640 believe mark carney is going to reintroduce it let me tell you freedom of speech is the most important
00:25:29.140 freedom because with it you can fight to recover all the others it's a little bit tough sometimes free
00:25:35.160 speech because you have to give it to your opponent if you want it for yourself so you you really have
00:25:40.280 to love it because we all don't like what our critics say but in canada they're snuffing out free speech
00:25:46.860 last point charlie the it's not just that they have a stick to beat people they don't like they
00:25:52.820 have a huge carrot for the journalists they do like they have colonized the media i mentioned what
00:25:58.560 would it look like if pbs was larger than all media combined that's what canada is like we have a state
00:26:04.580 broadcaster here that has a larger staff than all private media combined imagine how that distorts
00:26:11.680 the debate and whatever private media that there is now gets about a thirty thousand dollars per
00:26:18.760 journalist yearly subsidy from the government so they're all pulling for team mark carney there's
00:26:26.260 really only a handful of independent journalists left so they i think in canada soon they'll only be
00:26:32.260 government funded journalists or government banned journalists it is not a healthy state of affairs
00:26:39.620 elon musk frankly is is the most consequential man in politics because he has strengthened our
00:26:47.560 freedom of speech and and thank god donald trump won because he's fixing the censorship problem in
00:26:53.340 social media which benefits us up here in canada if trump did not win rebel news would be out of
00:26:59.160 business because twitter and the free speech that's now seeping back into social media would be gone
00:27:04.600 uh in closing here are you guys going to give up is now this hey you know the liberals won what is the
00:27:11.540 battle cry for the canadian patriot because i just have such respect for you guys because even though
00:27:17.960 that you know people in california say charlie it's so bad here i said no no go go to ontario go to
00:27:23.440 toronto go to ottawa are you going to give up one minute remaining ezra no i i love this is my home i mean
00:27:29.760 for generations my family being here this is my country i'm not going to give it up without a fight
00:27:34.040 we fought during the the covid lockdowns which were extreme up here remember the canadian truckers
00:27:39.180 they came and they they broke the fever and they set an example for the world and remember
00:27:44.000 no politicians supported them they didn't have a big super pack behind them it was grassroots people
00:27:50.040 saying enough is enough that inspires me those truckers so we're going to keep fighting and again
00:27:55.080 i'm a glass half full guy the conservative leader of canada got the highest vote that his party has
00:28:01.240 received in a generation i think that he'll break through next time he's got a conservative working
00:28:07.560 class coalition including young people it's pretty unique around the world i think it can win and and i
00:28:14.800 would just say to our american friends don't give up on us don't annex us you don't need to you already
00:28:19.300 have a free trade agreement that'll give you all the oil and gas and minerals you can buy
00:28:23.360 so you don't need to annex us that spooked canadians that's frankly a reason why the liberals eked out
00:28:30.340 a win but let's get back to being best friends you can be batman and we'll be robin we're the junior
00:28:34.660 partner in the friendship but let's be best friends again is what i have to say
00:28:38.160 ezra god bless you my friend hope to see you soon uh it's a depressing picture from my view but
00:28:43.200 your optimism and positivity is remarkable and noteworthy thank you thanks charlie
00:28:48.840 you