Rebel News Podcast - November 08, 2024


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Regime comedians are the worst 'political propagandists' in America


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Ezra LeVant: Late night comedians are really the worst political propagandists in the U.S. And they have been doing it for a reason. And it s still gross to see them try and control the psychology and political outlook of their audience.

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00:01:57.820 Tonight, late night comedians are really the worst political propagandists in America.
00:02:02.920 It's November 7th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:02:05.980 You're fighting for freedom.
00:02:07.140 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:02:20.640 I don't really think we have late night humorous TV in Canada.
00:02:25.700 I mean, there's been some attempts over the years.
00:02:27.700 The closest thing we have to a Saturday Night Live is this hour is 22 minutes.
00:02:32.360 It's not as funny.
00:02:33.620 It's pretty political.
00:02:34.960 And it doesn't have a big audience.
00:02:36.900 But American mainstream TV does have late night shows.
00:02:41.360 They're not as culturally significant as they were, let's say, in the 70s and 80s.
00:02:46.060 A lot of that is because anyone with a YouTube channel can get millions or tens of millions
00:02:51.620 of views.
00:02:52.880 And the regime comedians, they really are, really can't compete.
00:02:58.160 But they still have big audiences just by default or by inertia.
00:03:03.380 And I don't know.
00:03:04.860 I think it's more accurate to look at these late night comedy shows as product placement
00:03:11.100 shows rather than actual arts or entertainment or comedy.
00:03:14.960 I mean, remember Stephen Colbert, who actually is in the old Ed Sullivan Theater in Manhattan?
00:03:20.760 Remember what he did during the pandemic?
00:03:24.220 This was a sketch or a bit or a scene?
00:03:27.880 No, it wasn't.
00:03:29.040 It was an ad by Pfizer.
00:03:30.580 Remember this?
00:03:31.040 I mean, cringeworthy, but if you're getting paid a million bucks to do it, why not?
00:03:58.400 So gross.
00:03:59.080 Like I say, it's not really a show.
00:04:02.220 There's no artistic freedom to it.
00:04:05.760 It is all scripted by advertisers.
00:04:08.820 I suppose everything in mainstream media is that way.
00:04:11.620 But this show pretends to be genuine, authentic, and funny.
00:04:14.920 And it's not.
00:04:16.840 It's product placement with a laugh track is what it is.
00:04:19.720 Why would you go?
00:04:20.820 What boggles me is, you know, you can watch it when you're bored in the evening, I guess,
00:04:25.340 if you just want to see a celebrity talking about their latest project.
00:04:28.220 But the idea that people line up and go in person in New York City when you can do any
00:04:32.580 of a million other things is incredible to me.
00:04:35.800 Obviously, the ads for sale, there's skits and sketches that are for sale, are for sale
00:04:41.040 to anyone with cash.
00:04:42.120 And that meant Pfizer, but also to political parties, too.
00:04:45.100 We've learned that the vast majority of celebrity endorsers for Kamala Harris were paid, paid huge
00:04:51.920 amounts of money to do so.
00:04:54.540 And they have done so.
00:04:56.320 And they've been atrocious.
00:04:57.320 And watching them last night, though, after Trump won, I wouldn't say it was satisfying.
00:05:06.280 Because it's still gross to see them.
00:05:09.360 It's still gross to see them try and control the psychology and political outlook of their audience.
00:05:15.600 I mean, look at this guy, Jimmy Kimmel, who actually, I think, is a full-on member of the
00:05:20.560 Kamala Harris campaign team.
00:05:22.820 I mean, he's not even pretending to be independent.
00:05:25.780 He's as partisan, certainly, as Elon Musk is.
00:05:29.940 Take a look at this from last night.
00:05:31.760 Let's be honest.
00:05:32.580 It was a terrible night last night.
00:05:34.440 It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking
00:05:39.820 immigrants who make this country go. 1.00
00:05:43.560 For health care, for our climate, for science, for journalism, for justice, for free
00:05:52.820 speech, it was a terrible night for poor people, for the middle class, for seniors who rely
00:05:57.600 on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine, for NATO, for the truth, and democracy, and
00:06:07.840 decency.
00:06:09.200 And it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him.
00:06:12.220 And guess what?
00:06:12.720 It was a bad night for everyone who voted for him, too.
00:06:14.900 You just don't realize it yet.
00:06:16.240 Hang on.
00:06:16.540 Was that a tear?
00:06:20.820 Was he crying?
00:06:22.520 Was he crying for NATO?
00:06:25.320 By the way, Donald Trump is the biggest supporter of NATO.
00:06:27.640 The reason he says to Europe, pay more money or we're going to get out of here is he thinks
00:06:32.000 the threat will get them to pay more money.
00:06:33.700 He has strengthened NATO.
00:06:35.200 But imagine crying, shedding.
00:06:37.760 I think he shed a tear there.
00:06:39.360 He wanted us to think he was.
00:06:41.260 Oh, and the things he says are going to be lost under the Republicans' democracy and decency.
00:06:45.840 Yeah, Hunter Biden is definitely decent.
00:06:48.820 Doug Emhoff literally punching his girlfriend's decency.
00:06:52.260 But free speech, you're telling me free speech is stronger under Democrats?
00:06:56.040 Journalism?
00:06:57.220 Yeah, like I say, they really are more cult members than campaigners.
00:07:01.820 Stephen Colbert, in many ways, is worse.
00:07:04.400 And he had the same sort of tearful open to his show yesterday.
00:07:09.680 He's not doing great, guys, as if Republican presidents aren't catnip for these guys.
00:07:14.720 They never mock or parody Democrats.
00:07:17.540 They're never actually rough and tumble with Democrats.
00:07:20.560 The way they treat Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, just in fact, her last ditch campaign ad was 1.00
00:07:27.800 so obviously an attempt to normalize and humanize her.
00:07:30.840 There's got to be something deep in the bones of the joke writers of these shows who actually
00:07:35.460 want to do satire again and are excited to have such an exciting person to work with as
00:07:40.620 Donald Trump.
00:07:41.180 I mean, love him or hate him, Donald Trump is a great person to talk about and joke about
00:07:46.220 as opposed to an empty blatherskite who just says word salad like Kamala Harris. 1.00
00:07:52.680 And here's another clip.
00:07:54.020 Hey there.
00:07:55.860 How are you doing?
00:07:56.740 Listen, if you watch the show regularly, I'm guessing you're not doing great.
00:08:03.060 Yeah, me neither.
00:08:05.400 You know, today, some people said to me, sorry you have to do a show tonight, which is nice
00:08:12.160 of them to say, but I don't have to do a show.
00:08:15.680 I get to do a show tonight.
00:08:17.480 I'm so grateful to be with all of these talented people, those people over here, those people
00:08:23.820 that you'll never see, with the audience and the Ed Sullivan, with you people at home,
00:08:28.160 because especially at times like this, what do we most want to be?
00:08:33.220 Not alone.
00:08:35.400 So thanks for being here.
00:08:37.660 We're going to do a comedy show.
00:08:39.100 It's a comedy show.
00:08:39.700 We're going to do some jokes in just a minute, because that's what we do.
00:08:43.300 And I'll let you in on a little secret.
00:08:44.760 No one gets into this business because everything in their life worked out great.
00:08:50.100 So we're built for rough roads.
00:08:53.220 You guys ready?
00:08:54.780 Are we cool?
00:08:55.340 Okay.
00:08:55.840 We're going to start the show now.
00:08:57.340 And correct me if I'm wrong, Louis, we usually start with a cold open.
00:08:59.980 Yeah.
00:09:00.280 Something like that.
00:09:00.920 Do we have one?
00:09:01.740 Yeah.
00:09:02.140 We do?
00:09:02.900 Great.
00:09:04.060 Jim?
00:09:05.840 America's allies and its enemies bracing for a second Trump presidency.
00:09:10.440 It's an election millions around the world were invested in, even though they didn't
00:09:14.220 have a vote.
00:09:15.020 NATO will be greatly diminished.
00:09:16.620 I think our European allies will be very, very nervous.
00:09:19.440 I think leaders are bracing for what another Trump term could mean.
00:09:23.420 And now the world reacts to America's decision.
00:09:26.780 I'll be in my bedroom, making no noise and pretending that I don't exist.
00:09:38.580 Got it.
00:10:03.520 So the moral condemnation of America is best made by foreigners. 1.00
00:10:12.020 So why do foreigners have moral authority over actual American voters? 1.00
00:10:19.580 That's really weird.
00:10:20.720 But that is sort of an elitist thing, isn't it?
00:10:23.300 Oh, you hick Americans. 1.00
00:10:24.800 You better vote the right way.
00:10:26.160 Otherwise, what will they say about us in Finland?
00:10:32.000 Hey, let me just show another clip of something like that, because actually the Finnish parliament
00:10:35.920 and I think the Danish parliament, they had this video of female legislators just sort 0.99
00:10:41.440 of crossing their arms and looking very stern.
00:10:43.860 Take a look at this just for one second.
00:10:45.360 Yeah, how is that supposed to?
00:11:03.260 How is that?
00:11:04.080 I mean, first of all, there's no argument there.
00:11:05.820 It's just we are European socialist women and our glaring and staring should communicate enough. 0.99
00:11:12.300 There's no argument there.
00:11:13.240 There's no message other than shouldn't you be morally inferior to these people and do
00:11:18.540 what they say.
00:11:19.360 But they're also tone deaf and that the glaring and the scolding is exactly what Kamala Harris 0.99
00:11:24.560 has done for the last three months.
00:11:26.800 And it just didn't work.
00:11:28.000 It's really weird that they think you're supposed to take your moral leadership on voting in
00:11:32.380 America or Canada from what people overseas say.
00:11:35.280 Anyways, back to one more clip from Late Night TV.
00:11:40.100 Here's Colbert again.
00:11:41.360 Well, it happened again after a bizarre and vicious campaign fueled by a desperate need
00:11:51.800 not to go to jail.
00:11:52.720 Donald Trump has won the 2024 election.
00:11:59.660 Almost like you rehearsed that.
00:12:01.420 The deep shock and sense of loss is enormous.
00:12:06.480 OK, but let's look at the bright side.
00:12:07.840 This way, at least there'll be a peaceful transfer of power.
00:12:11.080 Mike Pence, ollie ollie oxen free.
00:12:15.180 All day yesterday, I was walking around proudly wearing my I voted sticker.
00:12:19.240 Today, I wore my I am questioning my fundamental belief in the goodness of humanity sticker.
00:12:23.800 Now, they give those out.
00:12:26.480 They give those out at the bake sale.
00:12:29.920 Right outside.
00:12:31.560 Now, as a late night host, people often say to me,
00:12:34.560 come on, part of you has got to want Trump to win because he gives you so much material to work with.
00:12:41.940 No, no.
00:12:43.080 No one tells the guy who cleans the bathroom, wow, you must love it when someone has explosive diarrhea.
00:12:50.000 There's so much material for you to work with.
00:12:54.420 Now, you understand that?
00:12:57.500 That good?
00:12:57.880 I wish, you wish, so many of us wish this hadn't happened, but that is not for us to decide.
00:13:04.880 This is a democracy.
00:13:06.700 That's democracy with a capital, duh.
00:13:10.800 And in this democracy, the majority has spoken, and they said they don't care that much about democracy.
00:13:16.940 And I want to take a moment to congratulate Kamala Harris and Tim Walls on running an amazing 107-day campaign.
00:13:23.920 You know, come on.
00:13:27.340 That was extraordinary.
00:13:28.940 Right out of the gate.
00:13:31.000 They headed right out of the gate.
00:13:33.800 First thing, I hope they stay in touch.
00:13:36.160 I know they're really good at texting.
00:13:40.300 As we're all about to plunge back into the Trump hole, here's what occurs to me.
00:13:46.540 The first time Donald Trump was elected, he started as a joke and ended as a tragedy.
00:13:51.440 This time he starts as a tragedy.
00:13:55.020 Who knows what he'll end as?
00:13:57.400 A limerick?
00:13:59.700 There once was a man who was orange.
00:14:02.800 Damn it!
00:14:07.060 Who knows what the next four years are going to be like?
00:14:10.120 What we do know is that we're going to be governed by a monstrous child surrounded by cowards and grifters.
00:14:16.080 And my brain keeps pumping out an unlimited supply of ramifications.
00:14:19.620 It's really hard to see a bright side here.
00:14:22.160 Got it.
00:14:22.480 So he's questioning the goodness of humanity, by which he means he's questioning the goodness of Americans.
00:14:29.260 Americans are good enough to buy the Pfizer or buy the soap or whatever he sells on his shows, ads.
00:14:36.080 They're good enough to pay his bills, but they're not.
00:14:38.680 He doesn't.
00:14:39.760 Because they disagreed with him.
00:14:41.840 Because Americans disagreed with how he voted.
00:14:45.940 They're not morally up to snuff.
00:14:48.120 And Americans apparently don't care about democracy.
00:14:50.680 And they show that by participating in a democracy in a way he doesn't like.
00:14:54.660 That's so gross.
00:14:55.220 I'll just show you one more clip.
00:14:56.620 And here's Jimmy Kimmel asking who.
00:14:59.680 I mean, you know, it might be interesting for Jimmy Kimmel to have on Joe Rogan or someone who used to be a Democrat.
00:15:05.400 Joe Rogan used to support Bernie Sanders, the socialist, who's come around.
00:15:10.000 Imagine if Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel actually interviewed a Republican, not to attack him or do a gotcha, but to say, tell me what happened.
00:15:19.600 And don't be mean about it, but explain to me how I got it so wrong.
00:15:23.340 They did the opposite.
00:15:24.760 They brought on this super gross sort of boy band.
00:15:27.520 It's called Pod Save America.
00:15:29.460 It's a podcast completely made up of former Obama staffers.
00:15:35.220 And asking them for an explanation of things.
00:15:39.640 Well, I'll save you the suspense.
00:15:42.640 They basically call Trump a Nazi.
00:15:45.040 Take a look.
00:15:45.620 I think one lesson we've learned over the last eight years is people don't care about policy.
00:15:49.880 You think it would be easier or more difficult to write for Trump?
00:15:55.040 Oof.
00:15:57.520 You know what?
00:15:58.520 What if you don't speak German?
00:16:04.180 So easy.
00:16:05.320 I will say this.
00:16:06.600 You know, the speechwriters that write speeches for Trump, you can tell when he leaves the prepared remarks behind and starts kind of riffing because he's annoyed and a bit bored by his prepared remarks.
00:16:16.320 Because I do find, like, the kind of high-dudgeon, kind of like, Deutschland, Uber Alice vibes, blood and soil.
00:16:24.740 He's like, ugh, kind of boring.
00:16:26.880 I want to talk about some windmills and what RFK's going to do for the women.
00:16:30.060 You know?
00:16:30.580 I want to riff.
00:16:31.360 Yeah, um, I don't know.
00:16:33.600 I mean, sometimes, like comedy, there really are some laughs if they have comedians on.
00:16:39.760 And I mean, I'm not saying that there's never a laugh.
00:16:42.240 But most of the time, it's a laugh track laugh.
00:16:44.620 It's the kind of laugh where you go, huh.
00:16:47.180 It's more like a sneer than laughing, wouldn't you say?
00:16:52.680 Stay with us.
00:16:53.460 We'll talk to Barbara Kay next. 0.54
00:17:05.980 Well, it's been a couple of days since the U.S. election, and I feel relief more than anything.
00:17:11.520 I felt for months that the campaign for Donald Trump was going very well.
00:17:15.600 He sort of had a dream team with him, and he had new weapons in 2024 that he didn't have in 2020.
00:17:20.540 The social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, being chief amongst them.
00:17:26.940 He had a bit of a dream team campaigning with him.
00:17:29.220 It wasn't just him.
00:17:30.460 It was proxies in the form of Elon Musk of said Twitter account, but also Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:17:37.440 J.D. Vance was excellent compared to his counterpart on the Democrat side.
00:17:42.280 Tulsi Gabbard.
00:17:43.560 There were so many people.
00:17:44.460 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. brought a very interesting nonpartisan traditional liberal vibe to it.
00:17:50.260 And it was a nod to people who felt like we've gotten too far away from natural health,
00:17:56.460 and maybe we went too far down the Pfizer road during the lockdowns.
00:18:00.740 It was an interesting campaign.
00:18:02.860 And I say the feeling I have is that I was shot at and missed.
00:18:09.040 That feeling of relief.
00:18:10.920 And I'm not going to say I'm ecstatic by the wind.
00:18:13.380 I'm more relieved that it wasn't stolen.
00:18:15.920 Relieved for America.
00:18:17.980 And here we are about 48 hours.
00:18:19.580 We're not quite into it.
00:18:20.780 And I haven't seen mass riots either, which I was certain would happen.
00:18:24.740 Now, maybe the Democrats are still too stunned to know what to do.
00:18:28.400 I think their first move would be to litigate and try and outlawyer this outcome.
00:18:33.800 But with such a massive outcome, winning every single one of the battleground states,
00:18:39.640 and even moving the needle in places like California and New York.
00:18:43.300 In the deepest of blue states, Donald Trump improved the score of the Republicans by 10% or more.
00:18:50.720 Even some districts in New York City, Queens, was almost 40% Republican, unheard of, in New York City.
00:18:58.220 California is no longer totally blue.
00:19:02.500 If you look at the map, the number of counties that went Republican is growing.
00:19:06.960 Latinos voting a Republican, in some cases, a majority for Republican.
00:19:12.820 It was such a comprehensive win that I think any strategies or tactics of rioting or trying to litigate a victory just simply evaporated.
00:19:23.720 And I think the Democrat Party genuinely doesn't quite know what to do.
00:19:29.140 Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been thinking about this moment for four years nonstop.
00:19:34.120 And he is a very able transition team that had been working already.
00:19:40.440 He didn't wait until now to start it.
00:19:43.040 He has been working on, I think, what was his number one weakness in his first term,
00:19:47.420 which is a checkerboard of personnel hires.
00:19:52.160 Some were outstanding, but many were not.
00:19:54.400 Many did not share his agenda.
00:19:55.740 Here's a clip of the head of Trump's transition team talking about how it's going to be people who are loyal to the agenda.
00:20:06.760 And he uses the analogy of a new CEO putting in people loyal to his corporate vision.
00:20:12.220 Here, take a look.
00:20:12.820 Do you feel fortunate to be in the position of the transition team?
00:20:17.320 Why would you take on an assignment like this?
00:20:19.280 So this is the most fun you could have.
00:20:21.020 You have a president.
00:20:22.940 He knows the job.
00:20:23.920 He knows exactly what he wants.
00:20:25.440 He's learned everything before.
00:20:27.780 He's got one term, four years.
00:20:30.560 He's going to hit it so hard, so fast.
00:20:33.360 We're going to have the greatest athletes you've ever seen take the field in administration.
00:20:37.000 So I've got the best 150 Republicans in the United States of America, from Chuck Schwab to Mark Rowan.
00:20:44.720 So you're only hiring Republicans?
00:20:47.220 Yes.
00:20:47.920 What a shock.
00:20:49.040 The Republican president is going to hire Republicans who are going to be fidelity to him, his policies, and him.
00:20:56.600 Because he's the CEO.
00:20:57.640 Why would you pick someone who's going to try to go the other direction?
00:21:00.720 That would be silly.
00:21:01.600 How do you make anything better, Howard, if you pack yourself with fealty over people who are just good at it and can work with the other side and give you different ideas?
00:21:12.300 How do you get anywhere better than where we are right now?
00:21:14.480 So you think it's trouble in 80 million Republicans to pick rock stars.
00:21:19.500 I promise you, it is easy to pick rock stars from either side.
00:21:24.060 Democrats can pick rock stars.
00:21:25.920 Republicans pick rock stars.
00:21:27.400 When it's your company, right, he's the boss.
00:21:30.820 He gets elected.
00:21:31.880 The concept of these people working against him needs to end.
00:21:36.160 Everybody's got to be going where his policies go.
00:21:39.220 So I'm sort of excited.
00:21:40.580 I'm excited as a longtime Trump supporter.
00:21:43.960 We at Rebel News are the only Canadian media outlet that has supported Trump in all three of his election campaigns.
00:21:49.820 I was very proud to have reporters down in Mar-a-Lago on election night, Avi Yamini and Lincoln Jay and our friend Yankee outside.
00:21:57.960 Of course, we crisscrossed America.
00:21:59.280 But let me bring it back to Canada.
00:22:00.960 Let me not talk about my own feelings.
00:22:04.220 That's sort of a – that's not real journalism to talk about how you feel about things.
00:22:08.980 Let's use our brains instead of our hearts for a moment.
00:22:12.020 How will this affect Canada?
00:22:15.920 Not in an emotional sense, although we see absolutely pitiful, performative videos and statements by every Canadian liberal about how they're bracing for this.
00:22:27.660 Let's be grown up for a minute and say, what will this actually do to the Canada-U.S. relationship?
00:22:33.800 What should we be prepared for?
00:22:35.600 What are the risks?
00:22:37.040 What are the opportunities joining us now to talk about this?
00:22:40.160 It's one of our favorite people.
00:22:41.820 I'm talking about Barbara Kaye, the columnist and friend.
00:22:44.600 And she's with National Post.
00:22:46.400 I'm so glad she is.
00:22:47.360 And she joins us now via Skype from the great city of Montreal, Quebec.
00:22:50.520 How are you doing?
00:22:51.840 I'm fine, Ezra.
00:22:52.900 And thank you for articulating some of the feelings that I had on election night.
00:22:57.900 I, too, had wanted, if he was going to win, which I hoped he would, I wanted him to win bigly because I was also very afraid of what would happen if it was a very close call.
00:23:12.420 And, you know, the tensions could have erupted into the streets.
00:23:17.780 And I thought that would be the worst possible outcome.
00:23:21.260 So the fact that it was definitive and that it showed that the entire country really was, you know, shifting red, even places where the state actually went Democrat, they went Democrat by lower margins than they had in the past, as you say.
00:23:39.640 So I was happy about the outcome.
00:23:43.060 And, yes, let's talk about how it will affect.
00:23:46.480 I'm actually, my column this week touches on, more than touches on, it's about two issues that I had that I think are going to have an effect on Canada.
00:23:57.340 And one of them is something that, you know, because you published our book, is the field of gender ideology.
00:24:07.500 Trump, Harris made a big mistake in assuming that the only thing women care about is abortion rights. 1.00
00:24:15.980 She just, that was her one big policy push, her platform, you know, unfettered abortion back to we're going to put Roe versus Wade, we're going to change all that.
00:24:26.420 And she never, she never addressed another gender issue at all.
00:24:30.640 Trump, of course, one of his great assets is his ability to read the room long before it becomes evident to everybody else what's on people's minds.
00:24:43.140 And back in 2022, he saw that gender ideology was getting way out of hand and that that could be a good election issue for him.
00:24:52.740 And he started talking about the unfairness of males competing in women's sport back then.
00:25:01.640 And he said, when I'm elected, I'm going to not allow men to be competed against, you know, in women's sport. 0.98
00:25:11.320 And then when he was elected, he said, he was asked, what are your day one priorities?
00:25:19.420 And that was amongst them.
00:25:20.740 He said, I'm going to ban male athletes competing against women.
00:25:24.600 And I think this is going to have a big effect if he if he does manage to do that.
00:25:28.660 And the NCAA changes so that, you know, no biological men in women's sport, that's going to have a big effect on sport in Canada.
00:25:39.640 We've been hoping for a long time to have something very definitive come along to force Canadian Canada, you know, Athletics Canada to look.
00:25:49.900 This is, you know, we've got to move on this because it's every year it gets worse.
00:25:55.180 We have concussions in volleyball.
00:25:58.200 We have those fighters in the Olympics.
00:26:01.920 Dangerous.
00:26:02.520 You know, it's a question of both safety and fairness, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:06.100 So that's one aspect that I think will have an effect on Canada.
00:26:10.360 Another is is going to be the Foreign Affairs Department and the he is going to be farm.
00:26:23.500 He's going to he's going to be very different in terms of his management of the Middle East conflict and other conflicts, but certainly in the Middle East.
00:26:31.760 And I think that's going to have an effect on how Canada is forced to deal with UNRWA, terrorism, you know, all these things that that our prime minister has been slow to act on and to to to, you know, recognize the the the necessity for.
00:26:56.860 And I think that will have an effect on on on that as well.
00:26:59.920 So those those those are my two big issues.
00:27:03.520 And certainly there are many other fields in which he's going to have a very, very powerful effect on Canada.
00:27:09.380 It's incredible how quickly the foreign affairs landscape has changed.
00:27:13.080 I mean, without missing a beat.
00:27:15.300 I mean, Donald Trump gave his victory speech.
00:27:18.080 I can't remember what time it was.
00:27:19.340 Something like 3 a.m.
00:27:21.540 And he was up at Adam.
00:27:23.560 First thing the next morning, he did not sleep in.
00:27:25.500 He was making and taking phone calls with world leaders.
00:27:28.460 And things are already moving.
00:27:30.340 I see that Vladimir Putin's spokesman is talking about a call between those two men about the Ukraine situation.
00:27:37.160 Narendra Modi of India, Nayib Bukele of El Salvador.
00:27:41.180 I don't think Trudeau will be a phone call in his first days or even the first week.
00:27:47.900 But the world is changing.
00:27:49.140 I see Hamas. 0.81
00:27:50.060 I don't even know who their spokesman would be talking about changing their strategy.
00:27:54.760 The whole world is suddenly changing.
00:27:56.460 So, of course, Canada will change, too.
00:27:58.780 And I know that Canadian politicians like to virtue signal how different they are from Trump.
00:28:03.540 And Trudeau and his team have insulted Trump personally.
00:28:07.040 But I got to tell you, Barbara, it's nothing like the insults that the British Labour Party have hurled at him over the years.
00:28:14.080 I don't know if – I mean, I follow the UK a little more closely than maybe I should because I'm interested in the case of Tommy Robinson.
00:28:20.200 Listen, I just got to play for you this clip of their new foreign secretary.
00:28:25.600 His name is David Lammy.
00:28:27.600 And he has been using the most harsh and vicious language towards Trump.
00:28:34.000 So personal.
00:28:34.980 I mean, listen, you disagree with the guy, be tough.
00:28:37.440 But the personal vitriol, I don't even know how such a man could be in the same room as Trump.
00:28:44.360 Let me just play it for you.
00:28:45.180 I just want to show you.
00:28:46.880 And the reason I'm showing you is because it's amazing.
00:28:50.340 But also, we can thank God for small blessings.
00:28:54.820 Our cabinet ministers are bad, but they're not this bad.
00:28:59.120 Take a look at David Lammy.
00:29:00.800 This is before he was foreign secretary, of course.
00:29:03.580 Take a look at this.
00:29:04.300 Donald Trump has been tearing up all of the accords that we maintained on climate change.
00:29:11.780 If you care about climate change, you care about the future of this world, then you must stand against Donald Trump.
00:29:20.160 This is a man that is someone who thinks it's OK to describe women in the most horrendous of ways, their body parts, to speak about them in a misogynistic and deeply offensive fashion.
00:29:36.680 This is the Donald Trump that we are rolling out the red carpet for.
00:29:41.060 And, you know, we don't always give a state visit to American presidents.
00:29:47.120 That was afforded to George W. Bush.
00:29:50.200 It was afforded to the great John Kennedy.
00:29:53.680 It was afforded to Barack Obama.
00:29:55.940 But we don't do it for all presidents.
00:29:58.160 Lyndon Johnson, Ford, Carter did not get one.
00:30:02.280 So why?
00:30:03.320 Why is Theresa May putting Donald Trump in this position, this pivotal position, having him alongside the Queen and all the great dignitaries across the country
00:30:14.860 and in the Corporation of London, sitting alongside him and lording him for this shameful behavior on the international stage?
00:30:24.200 We stand with the American people, but we absolutely say that our democratic values are opposed to the misogyny,
00:30:32.020 opposed to the racism, opposed to Steve Bannon and the horrible white supremacy that he seems to stand for.
00:30:40.760 I played too much of that.
00:30:41.920 But listen, you can you can agree with David Lammy and all the policy positions.
00:30:45.640 A lot of people believe in global warming, but calling him a misogynist, a white supremacist in various tweets, he called Trump a neo-Nazi.
00:30:52.920 I just I mean, you got to be a bit of a grown up.
00:30:56.120 If you're going to be the top diplomat for the UK, you should be slightly diplomatic.
00:31:01.280 I suppose I shouldn't have shown that because we're talking about Canada.
00:31:03.920 Let's jump right in, Barbara. 0.99
00:31:05.120 I want to show you a press conference.
00:31:06.820 I think this was actually earlier today.
00:31:09.040 Melanie Jolie, our foreign minister, who despises Trump just as much as David Lammy.
00:31:14.060 But fortunately for us, she rarely says anything that's not in the cue card in front of her.
00:31:18.360 So so she doesn't have the innate ability to go on a rant like that. 1.00
00:31:22.960 Here's Melanie Jolie talking to the state broadcaster.
00:31:25.540 I'd like your thoughts on this, because Quebec really is the front line for immigration, rocks some road and whatnot.
00:31:32.880 Quebec borders New York.
00:31:35.700 I mean, that's that's that's where a lot of it's coming.
00:31:37.820 They're not generally coming up through North Dakota, for example.
00:31:41.140 Here's Melanie. Take a look at this.
00:31:43.040 You know, the mass deportation policies that Trump was elected on could potentially send people north or it could reroute fentanyl trafficking and other things coming from the southern border into Canada.
00:31:54.060 What do you make of this warning?
00:31:55.540 Well, when it comes to migration, I think that people clearly want us to have a strong system and they want us also to make sure that people are confident that they trust our immigration system.
00:32:09.060 And that's why we decided to lower the the basically the targets, the immigration targets by 20 percent.
00:32:17.820 I think that was a really important decision.
00:32:19.620 Actually, also, that was highlighted by Trump himself while he was campaigning at the same time.
00:32:25.880 But this sounds, Minister, like it could be a surge like Roxham Road, but on a much larger scale.
00:32:30.220 Right. I take the ambassador's words is that I hear you.
00:32:34.420 So you're referring to Roxham Road.
00:32:36.500 It was myself and the former minister of immigration and, of course, the prime minister that work on a deal to make sure that we would have a renewed safe country, safe third country agreement,
00:32:46.880 which was a but we were able through that agreement with the U.S. to close the Roxham Road and address this issue.
00:32:55.880 And of course, we'll work with the administration.
00:32:57.860 But we need to bear in mind that, yes, indeed, President-elect Trump has said that migration was a key priority for him.
00:33:08.200 And so, therefore, we are ready.
00:33:12.500 How are you ready, though?
00:33:14.140 If, for example, all the Haitians who are still there in temporary protected status and during Trump won presidency,
00:33:20.440 just the talk of it had people fleeing for the Canadian border.
00:33:24.040 Now he's talking about mass deportations, potentially millions of people.
00:33:26.900 That's going to be an added incentive for people to flee for safety.
00:33:30.060 And they're unlikely to head towards Mexico.
00:33:32.060 I mean, how do you deal with this potential movement of desperate humans if this comes to pass?
00:33:36.880 So, David, of course, I won't give you the entire plan right now as you're asking me the question,
00:33:42.160 because I think we need to have the first conversations with the Trump administration.
00:33:46.340 We need to understand their concerns.
00:33:48.440 We need to understand their plan, of course.
00:33:51.120 And we will work through the CBSA, which is in charge of our border protection.
00:33:55.520 We'll make sure that, indeed, this Norton border, which has been extremely effective and extremely well-guarded 0.87
00:34:05.360 because it's the longest and safest border in the world, stays the same.
00:34:11.260 And so we have that in common with the Americans, that we believe that border protection is important.
00:34:16.240 And so, therefore, we'll have these conversations.
00:34:19.720 They may be tough conversations, but I'm never shy of having tough conversations.
00:34:24.420 And I think that Americans expect us to have tough conversations with them, too.
00:34:30.780 That's diplomacy, and that's why diplomacy was actually invented, David.
00:34:35.580 You know, I don't want to be mean, and I don't want to come across as sexist,
00:34:39.080 but she's dumb, Barbara. 1.00
00:34:43.500 I know.
00:34:44.140 I thought of—I think of her and Kamala Harris on the same kind of level when it comes to foreign affairs. 0.93
00:34:53.560 At least she doesn't have the Kamala Harris cackle. 1.00
00:34:56.240 That's true.
00:34:57.380 So she was asked about mass deportation.
00:34:59.980 It's a very specific thing.
00:35:01.600 Trump says he wants to get rid of millions of people.
00:35:04.820 And I think he means it this time.
00:35:07.240 I really think he does.
00:35:08.800 I know Elon Musk, his new best friend, certainly means it.
00:35:13.040 And I think the party's unanimous on that.
00:35:17.240 And when he asked her specifically about mass deportations, like, we know what's going to happen.
00:35:22.900 Someone who knows they're going to be deported, I suppose some of them will self-deport,
00:35:26.760 but many of them will say, Canada will let us hang around forever.
00:35:30.760 It's an unguarded border.
00:35:32.100 They're stupidly generous with their welfare.
00:35:34.820 They don't kick out criminals.
00:35:36.240 Let's go there.
00:35:36.860 Like that CBC reporter, David Cochran, I think is his name, actually put the question fairly clearly.
00:35:42.380 And what did Jolie said?
00:35:44.180 We have a point system.
00:35:46.280 We're reducing our immigration levels by 20%.
00:35:49.320 That's not even the question.
00:35:51.260 No, it wasn't.
00:35:52.240 But to give her, to be fair to Jolie, the one thing that she could not possibly do would be to say something that would stir up fear of exactly, you know, people rushing the border and to say, yes, that's a legitimate fear and we don't know what we're going to do about it.
00:36:11.160 She couldn't possibly say that.
00:36:12.820 So she had to deflect.
00:36:16.060 And I think that was a tough position to be put in because they probably don't have a plan yet.
00:36:23.340 But by the way, do you really think Trump, when he says, I'm going to deport millions, that he really means millions?
00:36:31.520 Like to me, what Trump does is he sets – he's like a, you know, the art of the deal kind of thing.
00:36:37.600 Just like he says, I'm going to slap a 10% tariff on everything.
00:36:41.000 Do you think he really means that?
00:36:42.000 Or does he – is that like his opening gambit and then he'll negotiate down?
00:36:46.380 I don't think he's going to deport millions, maybe a million in the end over time.
00:36:51.760 I think it'll be done in a way that doesn't have people screaming, look, they're putting people in concentration camps.
00:36:59.020 You know, I don't think he would want to set off that kind of a chain reaction.
00:37:02.720 So he says a lot of things that if he followed through on them exactly as he says them, could be pretty scary propositions.
00:37:13.960 I just don't believe that it's going to be millions.
00:37:16.720 I think it's going to be less.
00:37:19.200 And I think it'll be much more – it won't be all at once.
00:37:22.820 Like it's not going to be – they're all going to be rounded up on the same day and, you know, put on 5,000 buses or anything like that.
00:37:28.560 So I think we should – knowing Trump as we do, and we know him very well by now, I think we should take it with a grain of salt when he makes these pronouncements.
00:37:39.360 I think that's a wise – that's a wise observation.
00:37:41.960 I mean he – and he's publicly said this.
00:37:44.900 You're right in his book, Art of the Deal.
00:37:46.160 He talks about making a shocking offer just to mix things up and to change the whole paradigm.
00:37:54.320 You're right.
00:37:54.760 He does that.
00:37:55.440 But I've also met with a number of people who I believe have been with his sort of deportation squad before and are expected to get the – be tapped for that position again.
00:38:09.440 I think they will be – first of all, I think they're going to put in the wall and they're going to stop the catch and release.
00:38:15.780 So I think it's – they're going to turn off the tap, first of all.
00:38:18.960 And I think they will bail it out.
00:38:20.180 But – and maybe you're right.
00:38:22.920 Maybe you don't want to say, oh, my God, we're going to – maybe Canada doesn't want to announce some new plan because you're right.
00:38:29.820 People will rush in the days or weeks beforehand.
00:38:32.260 But I don't think they have a clue.
00:38:33.860 I think that they believed in their heart of hearts that Kamala Harris, of course she's going to win.
00:38:39.840 I mean they're so deeply connected with the U.S. Dems and Kamala Harris in her own way was not just like Melanesia Lee, but she was like Justin Trudeau. 0.95
00:38:51.120 Word salads, bit of a combination.
00:38:53.040 Yes, a combination.
00:38:54.360 Absolutely.
00:38:55.400 But by the way, I saw the – I was at a gig on election night early in the evening.
00:38:59.620 I was on a panel discussing, and one of the panelists was from Leger Polling, and he was giving us some stats here, there, and he gave us the stats on Canadians, who they favored.
00:39:14.540 And it was like remarkable.
00:39:17.960 It was like 60% or 70% for Harris in Canada as opposed to in the States.
00:39:25.100 It was supposed to be a very close, close, close race.
00:39:31.640 In Israel, of course, it was 66% wanted Trump.
00:39:36.780 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:39:37.940 By country, I saw a chart of that today.
00:39:39.840 Some of the Scandinavian countries, it's like 95% against Trump, and that goes to your media diet.
00:39:48.800 If all you consume are CNN, New York Times, and for diversity, you go to MSNBC and The Washington Post.
00:39:57.640 Oh, I have multiple sources.
00:40:00.340 If that's how you base the world, you do think he's a rapist, a felon.
00:40:06.120 You do think he actually said Liz Cheney should be shot.
00:40:11.160 You believe all the hoaxes.
00:40:14.080 And garbage in, garbage out, if that's all you know about this man.
00:40:17.380 And I have to say one of the little pleasures I had on Tuesday night, Barbara, was following the Twitter accounts of Canadian pundits who, you know, were going through performative emotionalizing.
00:40:31.240 But I think what they really revealed is how little they knew about real life America.
00:40:36.560 And because they looked through the prism of The Washington Post and New York Times and thought themselves very, you know, very worldly and thoughtful.
00:40:47.760 Yeah, well, that was the Wall Street Journal's opinion.
00:40:51.800 Their editorial today was, or their reportage of the election was, the big observation they made was that they just, they never went, they never understood small town America.
00:41:04.600 They never understood rural people's feelings.
00:41:09.840 He went, Trump went to counties they never even heard of and listened and talked to these people.
00:41:16.020 They don't have, they really are in a bubble.
00:41:18.120 The Dems are really in their own salons, highly educated, you know, all from the top universities.
00:41:28.600 And they just do, they are not in touch with a huge swath of the American public.
00:41:37.020 And that, and to their credit, a lot of them, I noticed there were, I was on Twitter too today on X.
00:41:43.240 And was it Scott Jennings of CNN?
00:41:47.360 Oh, he was excellent.
00:41:48.720 Very forthright.
00:41:49.920 He said, we, we are to blame.
00:41:53.240 We have not listened.
00:41:54.600 We have not, you know, done our job.
00:41:57.060 We have not done our job.
00:41:58.540 And I thought, well, good for you.
00:42:01.660 You know, that's, and that's CNN, which nothing more mainstream than that.
00:42:05.560 So.
00:42:05.920 Let me play that clip.
00:42:06.980 That was actually just, I think it was only about a minute and a half.
00:42:10.200 And it, I think he was crystal clear, but let me just show you that, Scott Jennings.
00:42:15.820 This is a mandate.
00:42:17.520 He's won the national popular vote for the first time since, for a Republican, for the first time since 2004.
00:42:24.680 This is a big deal.
00:42:26.260 This isn't backing into the office.
00:42:29.040 This is a mandate to do what you said you were going to do.
00:42:32.440 Get the economy working again for regular working class Americans. 0.93
00:42:37.560 Fix immigration. 1.00
00:42:39.220 Try to get crime under control.
00:42:41.080 Try to reduce the chaos in the world.
00:42:43.420 This, this is a mandate from the American people to do that.
00:42:46.240 I think I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just a regular old working class American, 1.00
00:42:53.100 the anonymous American who has been crushed, insulted, condescended to.
00:42:59.020 They're not garbage.
00:43:00.520 They're not Nazis.
00:43:01.880 They're just regular people who get up and go to work every day and are trying to make a better life for their kids.
00:43:06.860 And they feel like they have been told to just shut up when they have complained about the things that are hurting them in their own lives.
00:43:14.980 I also feel like this election, as we sit here and pour over this tonight, is something of an indictment of the political information complex.
00:43:24.920 I mean, we've been sitting around here for the last couple of weeks, and the story that was portrayed was not true.
00:43:31.820 I mean, we were told Puerto Rico was going to change the election.
00:43:34.420 Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley voters, women lying to their husbands. 0.99
00:43:38.120 Before that, it was Tim Walls in the camo hats.
00:43:40.920 It was night after night after night, we were told all these things and gimmicks were going to somehow push Harris over the line.
00:43:50.140 And we were just ignoring the fundamentals.
00:43:52.860 Inflation, people feeling like that they were barely able to tread water at best.
00:43:57.900 That was the fundamentals of the election.
00:44:00.600 And so I think that both parties should always look at the results of an election and figure out what went right and what went wrong.
00:44:06.740 But I think for all of us who cover elections and talk about elections and do this on a day-to-day basis, we have to figure out how to understand, talk to, and listen to the half of the country that rose up tonight and said, we've had enough.
00:44:20.840 Barbara, we're having fun chewing over the election, but we do.
00:44:23.920 Let me try and get myself back on track.
00:44:26.340 I meander a lot.
00:44:27.560 Let's talk about Canada.
00:44:28.960 I want to show you a clip, and I showed this a few days ago.
00:44:31.620 You mentioned foreign affairs, and it'll be so refreshing to have a pro-freedom, pro-anti-antisemitism guy in the White House.
00:44:44.060 I mean, and it's going to immediately change the Middle East. 1.00
00:44:47.740 It will change Ukraine. 0.95
00:44:50.840 Part of the reason why the world fears Donald Trump is because he's so blunt and he just does things.
00:44:57.840 And unlike sort of the slow-motion, diplomatic, deep state, but of course the main reason is because he's the commander-in-chief of the most powerful military force ever known to man.
00:45:11.940 And he's really the global hyper-power.
00:45:15.780 He's the globo-cop.
00:45:17.200 But Trump doesn't like being globo-cop.
00:45:19.480 He hates the fact that American taxpayers are subsidizing Europe through NATO.
00:45:24.300 So he's always telling NATO, if you don't pay your fair share, I'm pulling out.
00:45:29.100 Now, again, this is reported as Trump's against NATO.
00:45:32.500 No, he's using that Trump-style threat, saying if you don't spend 2% of your GDP on the military, we're going to leave you.
00:45:40.520 Of course he means the opposite, but that's how he negotiates.
00:45:44.580 And really, Canada is one of the lowest spenders and the biggest freeloaders.
00:45:50.980 Can I show you a quick clip when Trump was lecturing Trudeau?
00:45:54.040 This was obviously about five years ago.
00:45:57.220 Look at this.
00:45:58.020 And Trudeau tries to sort of fudge the number, but Trudeau actually – sorry, Trudeau tried to fudge the number.
00:46:03.220 Trump knew the real number.
00:46:04.480 Just watch.
00:46:04.900 It's about a minute and a half.
00:46:05.820 Take a look.
00:46:06.360 Canada does not meet the 2% standard.
00:46:08.760 Should it have a plan to meet the 2% standard?
00:46:11.880 Well, we'll put them on a payment plan, you know.
00:46:13.800 We'll put Canada on a payment plan, right?
00:46:15.780 I'm sure the prime minister would love that.
00:46:17.660 What are you at?
00:46:18.500 What is your number?
00:46:19.400 The number we talked about is 70% increase over these past years, including – and for the coming years,
00:46:27.820 including significant investments in our fighter jets, significant investments in our naval fleets.
00:46:35.180 We are increasing significantly our defense spending from previous governments that cut it.
00:46:40.520 Okay.
00:46:41.080 Where are you now in terms of your number?
00:46:43.920 We're at 135?
00:46:46.260 1.3?
00:46:47.460 1.4.
00:46:48.700 1.4.
00:46:50.360 And continuing to move forward.
00:46:52.020 They're getting there.
00:46:52.540 They know it's important to do that.
00:46:55.820 And their economy is doing well.
00:46:57.780 They'll get there quickly, I think.
00:46:59.180 And look, it's to their benefit.
00:47:00.820 And the president knows well, as well, that Canada has been there for every NATO deployment.
00:47:06.240 We have consistently stepped up, sent our troops into harm's way.
00:47:11.020 We're leading in Iraq, we're leading in NATO, in Latvia.
00:47:15.400 We continue to step up, like most of our allies.
00:47:20.740 There are some countries that, even though they might reach the 2%, don't step up nearly as much.
00:47:25.980 And I think it's important to look at what is actually being done.
00:47:29.300 And the United States and all NATO allies know that Canada is a solid, reliable partner that will continue to defend NATO and defend our interests.
00:47:37.880 And we do have tremendous coordination with radar, with all of the different things that, you know, technologically, we have tremendous coordination between Canada and the United States.
00:47:47.240 You know, Trump was actually being a little bit gentle there, but he could tell Trudeau was BSing.
00:47:50.820 He wanted the number.
00:47:51.860 And Trudeau said, oh, we're increasing it.
00:47:53.740 Oh, but what is the number, Grasshopper?
00:47:56.720 And Trudeau lied.
00:47:58.020 He spoke aspirationally.
00:47:59.500 Now, none of the things he said, that was about five years ago, Barbara, and none of those things came true.
00:48:04.620 We still don't have our fighter jets.
00:48:07.900 We only, despite all our tough talk, there was only one single tank we actually delivered to Ukraine.
00:48:15.340 The rest of them were not suitable to send over.
00:48:19.360 We no longer participate in many exercises because our equipment is not interoperable.
00:48:25.580 We can't keep upward.
00:48:26.680 We have not refurbished our equipment.
00:48:28.500 So everything Trudeau said there was untrue.
00:48:32.940 I think the only blessing we have is that Trump thinks so little about Canada, as in so rarely about us.
00:48:41.460 He doesn't care about us, so he doesn't pay attention to us.
00:48:45.080 And I noted on election night, Trump never actually visited Canada once, except for with multilateral gatherings, which he was doing there.
00:48:53.860 Like, I think there was a G7 meeting and something like that.
00:48:56.240 But Trump never came to town just one-on-one to meet Trudeau.
00:48:59.920 In his entire term, he never thought that was a valuable use of his time.
00:49:03.960 And I think that will continue to be the case.
00:49:06.120 And lucky for us, because holy mackerel, are we behind when it comes to military participation?
00:49:12.160 True.
00:49:13.160 Well, let me ask you about foreign affairs, because I think Canada has, frankly, disgraced our history as a peace-loving and freedom-loving country, more and more supporting terrorism, Hezbollah, Hamas, the UN Relief Works Agency.
00:49:31.800 Do you think, and I was going to say Angelina Jolie, do you think Melanie Jolie and Justin Trudeau will lean into the difference and say, we're not like Trump?
00:49:43.280 Do you think they're going to try and campaign against Trump in the election expected in 2025?
00:49:48.520 Like, one approach would be, okay, there's a new sheriff in town.
00:49:51.880 Let's do our best to make this a win for Canada.
00:49:55.280 The other approach is, we're 20 points behind.
00:49:59.420 Nothing's working.
00:50:01.000 We've got to, you know, Pierre Polyev, we've got to paint him as the MAGA mini-Trump.
00:50:07.960 And we've got to run against Trump.
00:50:09.780 And everything Trump does, we've got to demonize and try and hang it around the neck of Pierre Polyev.
00:50:15.780 I think that that's what they're going to do.
00:50:19.220 What do you think they're going to do?
00:50:20.380 I think that's what they're going to do, but it might not work because that's what Kamala Harris tried to do with Trump. 1.00
00:50:26.620 She tried to lean into he's a fascist, he's dangerous, he's a risk to democracy.
00:50:32.240 None of that worked.
00:50:33.640 If a culture is in the mood for a change, scaring them is not going to help.
00:50:39.520 And by the way, by the time our election comes around, it could be that there have been so many advances made in the Middle East towards peace that he won't be able to do that.
00:50:53.940 Because Trump does know, I agree with you, he doesn't want to be the world's cop, but he doesn't want to also be the world's fall guy either and look stupid.
00:51:02.340 He does believe in sometimes the best way to stop a war is tough love.
00:51:11.820 I noticed, maybe it wasn't a coincidence that the Houthis declared that they were stopping their operations in the Red Sea at the same time as Trump was being elected president.
00:51:21.500 So maybe they know something that we don't know.
00:51:24.100 But when he was when he was president before, he was the one that took out Soleimani, you know, Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Revolutionary Guard in Iraq.
00:51:37.860 And everybody said at the time, oh, you're going to inflame the regional war.
00:51:42.780 No, on the contrary, it made Iran back off.
00:51:45.620 And I think unlike, look, I think the Biden and Harris would have continued.
00:51:53.080 It was Obama's policy that has been one of the one of the reasons I'm glad Trump won is because it denies Obama basically a fourth term.
00:52:00.740 He Obama has basically been running both Biden and Harris on their Middle East policy.
00:52:07.260 They are they are loyal to his vision of Iran being the the the hegemon in the Middle East. 0.89
00:52:16.900 He has this vision of of a rational Iran kind of keeping things stable in the Middle East.
00:52:23.320 They hated the Abraham Accords because the Abraham Accords took a completely different direction.
00:52:29.320 And because the Arab states that are in the Abraham Accords are anti Iran. 0.80
00:52:34.760 So they've tried to scupper the Abraham Accords. 0.96
00:52:38.880 They don't even by the way, you never at once in four years did you hear Biden utter the words Abraham Accords.
00:52:44.640 He wouldn't even say them because it's Trump's it was Trump's achievement.
00:52:49.740 Anyone else in the world would have won a Nobel Peace Prize, by the way.
00:52:52.640 Anyone else in the world.
00:52:53.660 Exactly.
00:52:54.420 And honestly, I think you're going to see some it's going to be very definitive.
00:53:00.400 Whatever happens in the Middle East now, Trump and by the way, both Biden and Obama did not like Netanyahu.
00:53:08.460 It was very clear.
00:53:09.320 And Harris also.
00:53:10.860 So there was a lot of tension between them.
00:53:13.180 But Trump and Netanyahu get along.
00:53:15.080 And I think that Trump and both of them will figure out a plan that is tough, fair in terms of, you know, what what they're entitled to do.
00:53:27.140 And it will set Iran back on its heels that we've seen that Iran is in some ways a paper tiger. 0.98
00:53:33.140 And I think that Trump is the right president to to nail down that fact and to make it clear to Iran that if if the U.S. gives Israel license to do greater damage than they've done so far, that Iran will regret it. 0.61
00:53:51.660 And so, I mean, maybe I'm I'm off base here.
00:53:55.040 I'm not an analyst.
00:53:56.120 I'm not a foreign policy analyst.
00:53:57.520 But I see that Trump will be a force for definitive and good action in that region.
00:54:03.660 And it gives me greater hope that there will be peace, that the Abraham Accords, the Saudi Arabia will come on board and that this is going to be a fantastically positive four years for the Middle East because of Trump.
00:54:17.500 And maybe he'll get that Nobel Prize after all.
00:54:19.760 I think you're right.
00:54:21.260 And his promise to the Arab and Muslim population of Michigan.
00:54:24.980 And apparently he had 15 meetings with them.
00:54:28.800 Yeah, he got support from them.
00:54:30.460 He got support from them.
00:54:31.640 And and not by throwing Israel under the bus.
00:54:34.200 Like Pierre Polly, he says the same thing in all groups.
00:54:36.980 And his message was.
00:54:39.420 A, Kamala Harris is hanging out with the Chinese.
00:54:42.320 They killed a million Arabs in the first Gulf War.
00:54:44.860 Why would you hang out with those warm warmongers?
00:54:46.920 B, I'm a peacemaker.
00:54:50.140 I'm not going to hurt Israel, but I'm going to stop the wars. 0.98
00:54:53.900 And how can you doubt them?
00:54:55.800 And frankly, if you're a Muslim or an Arab, you're thinking, well, who does Israel listen to?
00:55:01.380 Well, Trump is such a close friend to them that if Trump has a peace.
00:55:06.300 And by the way, Trump made peace between Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, that's at Abraham Accords.
00:55:13.340 And I think and yesterday I won't do it again.
00:55:15.900 I read Jared Kushner's lengthy tweet about Israel's neutering of Hezbollah in a preemptive series of preemptive strikes.
00:55:23.720 And Jared Kushner said, I could never figure out how to solve the Hezbollah problem.
00:55:27.280 They had 100,000 rockets.
00:55:28.480 That was the gun pointing at the head of the whole thing.
00:55:31.040 But now all sorts of peace is possible.
00:55:33.860 I think Lebanon could be the focal point of a new Abraham Accord. 0.99
00:55:38.980 And I think America, Israel, Lebanon, and others could fix up Lebanon, which has had some damage, and make it part of a regional peace.
00:55:51.760 And you know what?
00:55:53.380 Let Trump be proven true, that he was blessed are the peacemakers.
00:55:56.460 I'm very optimistic about that.
00:55:58.500 Yes, I agree with you about Lebanon, by the way.
00:56:01.260 There's many Lebanese people that absolutely, they're like, yes, go ahead, get rid of Hezbollah, help us. 1.00
00:56:07.440 We've been dying to get, you know, and you've given them new hope that Hezbollah colonized Lebanon. 1.00
00:56:14.820 It's a foreign body, this Shia axis, acting for Iran in Lebanon. 0.60
00:56:23.400 Many Lebanese would be thrilled to see them out of there. 1.00
00:56:26.280 And by the way, I think he is also giving hope to people in Iran who would love to overthrow this regime.
00:56:35.240 You remember that when they asked Obama for help in 2012.
00:56:39.820 There was this moment where an uprising was possible, and they were all waiting for a signal, and he said nothing.
00:56:45.980 No, because he wanted them in place, the Islamic regime, and I'll never forgive him for that amongst a hundred other things. 0.99
00:56:52.020 Yeah.
00:56:52.360 Well, when you say, when you note that Hamas is waving the white flag, the Houthis have unilaterally announced they're not going to attack ships anymore.
00:57:01.660 Vladimir Putin says he's eager to talk about a peace proposal.
00:57:05.620 Of course, it's not a coincidence.
00:57:07.000 America has a leader who's almost in place, but he's de facto in place.
00:57:12.660 He's holding court.
00:57:13.840 He's got his transition team.
00:57:15.880 He is a de facto president.
00:57:17.520 And I think he has had four years to think about what he's going to do.
00:57:21.560 And you know what?
00:57:22.140 I don't want to sound like more partisan than I am, but I think it is going to be a golden age for American industrial policy, foreign policy.
00:57:30.880 And because he has only one term, he said he – this is it.
00:57:37.140 He – I think he will make decisions that perhaps someone looking out for a second term might be too shy to make.
00:57:45.880 And Elon Musk, I really think, is going to help unlock and unblock the economy.
00:57:52.020 I mean, he has proved himself to be the indispensable citizen, not just through his engineering, but how he gets things done and cuts through the clutter.
00:58:00.480 Listen, when he took over Twitter, he fired like 80% or more of the people working there because there was so much dead wood in there.
00:58:08.780 And it never stopped for a day.
00:58:12.620 It kept on ticking.
00:58:14.620 He says he's going to save the American government.
00:58:17.760 He's going to slash the civil service, a bloated, a very bloated civil service.
00:58:24.400 He's going to save them a trillion dollars over the next couple of years.
00:58:27.740 So I kind of – you know, he's a kooky guy.
00:58:30.580 He's quirky, but he is a genius.
00:58:33.200 And, you know, you can't deny the success in his own incredible businesses.
00:58:37.460 So, yeah, I think that's going to be really interesting to watch.
00:58:41.040 And I have a feeling that could turn out to be really good for the economy.
00:58:45.380 You know, of course, if you're going to fire a million civil servants, you're going to have a problem on your hands.
00:58:49.660 But Musk said give them a two-year severance.
00:58:52.620 Just get them out.
00:58:53.740 Give them what it takes to get them out.
00:58:56.060 I mean, that's an enormous severance for a lot of them.
00:58:58.820 But that's how he saved Twitter.
00:59:01.280 That's how he saved his other companies.
00:59:03.180 Well, Barbara, I invited you on to talk about Canada-U.S. relations.
00:59:06.540 That was the least of what we did.
00:59:08.620 But if I had to sum up what we said, that transgenderism, I think by fixing American sports, that will have a knock-on in Canadian sports. 0.99
00:59:17.020 Because, of course, every sports team in Canada, when they go on tour, they love to go to America.
00:59:20.940 It's the easiest, friendliest place to visit.
00:59:22.860 So I think that will have a tremendously positive effect.
00:59:25.640 I think immigration is going to be massive.
00:59:28.600 You know, Haitians alone is a huge issue.
00:59:31.760 It was in Springfield, Ohio, that one town alone.
00:59:36.320 And if Canada doesn't watch out, we're going to have 50,000 Haitians come to this country to get away from Trump.
00:59:42.600 I think the military, Trudeau's answers in that clip five years ago have all been false.
00:59:47.280 And I think you're going to see the U.S. put real pressure on Canada.
00:59:51.540 And finally, and most hopefully, I think America is in control of global policy, global foreign affairs now, not this blob of left-wing, laborite, Macronite losers.
01:00:04.400 I think the world – I am optimistic about the world again.
01:00:07.460 I'm more hopeful about the world.
01:00:08.460 Wait, we forgot to mention one big thing, Ezra.
01:00:12.500 I'm praying that he's going to fix the U.N.
01:00:16.500 Because the U.N. is the greatest force for evil in the world.
01:00:21.460 And it needs to be overhauled so badly.
01:00:26.240 I would love to see him once he's, you know, fixing everything else.
01:00:31.180 I would love to see him.
01:00:32.720 And he could because the America – what is it, a quarter of their budget is – of the U.N.'s budget?
01:00:38.920 He could fix it.
01:00:40.140 Well, the only fixing I'm hoping –
01:00:41.480 Let's add that.
01:00:42.160 Let's add that into the mix, too.
01:00:43.500 Is when they talk about fixing your pets.
01:00:45.200 That's the only kind of fixing I'm hoping for the U.N.
01:00:47.400 Robert K., it's great to see you again.
01:00:48.620 I'm sorry I'm too chatty.
01:00:49.780 I talked more than I listened.
01:00:51.620 But there's so much going on.
01:00:52.740 I'm so excited.
01:00:54.000 I've had four years of stress.
01:00:56.360 And I thought they're going to – and they tried everything.
01:00:58.980 They tried to jail him.
01:01:00.060 They tried to bankrupt him.
01:01:01.000 My God, someone shot him, literally shot him.
01:01:04.780 And but for an inch, he would have been dead that day.
01:01:07.440 I know.
01:01:07.740 It's crazy.
01:01:08.600 And, you know, more religious people than I would say that's a miracle.
01:01:12.040 God had other plans for him.
01:01:13.820 And it may be true.
01:01:16.020 Anyway, we'll keep in touch.
01:01:16.960 Thanks for spending so much time with us.
01:01:18.780 Thank you, Ezra.
01:01:19.560 It was great fun.
01:01:20.540 Right on.
01:01:20.940 There you have it.
01:01:21.300 Barbara Kay, one of our favorite people, columnist at the National Post.
01:01:24.880 Well, stay with us.
01:01:25.900 Your letters are next.
01:01:31.000 Hey, welcome back.
01:01:39.660 Your letters to me.
01:01:40.880 Someone with the name The Frozen Canadian says this.
01:01:45.580 They have the Electoral College vote, the popular vote, and pretty much the entire floor in Congress.
01:01:50.880 Pretty much good times for the states.
01:01:52.660 While in Canada, we just sit in the middle and suck on it.
01:01:55.920 Well, listen, change is coming.
01:01:59.060 There's no way it's not.
01:02:00.220 I mean, every single poll in this country for more than a year has shown that we're likely to have a conservative party majority.
01:02:07.320 In fact, that Trudeau is going to be smashed to pieces.
01:02:10.180 I think Trudeau is actually going to try and use Trump as a foil and try and be anti-Trump and hang that around Pauliev's neck.
01:02:18.380 I don't think it's going to work.
01:02:19.320 I think people want change here even more than they want it in the states.
01:02:23.440 Rory Kennedy says Trump's going to nail this presidency.
01:02:26.960 He has a fantastic team on his side this time around.
01:02:30.100 You are so right.
01:02:31.520 There were so many people that Trump allowed into his inner circle that he didn't know and, frankly, were opposed to his agenda.
01:02:38.460 They were just part of the permanent bureaucracy, the military-industrial complex.
01:02:42.520 You could call it the deep state.
01:02:43.560 And this time around, I think he's been thinking about his staff for four years.
01:02:49.720 Bryant says Harris was a DEI candidate.
01:02:54.040 She was there because of her identity status.
01:02:56.360 She was also a promoter of DEI ideology.
01:02:59.500 The U.S. rejected this kind of racism when it elected DT.
01:03:02.760 You're so right.
01:03:03.680 And, by the way, the gains in Republican support from minority groups, especially Latinos but also black people and even Jews, suggest that DEI is popular in woke circles but not normal places.
01:03:19.540 I mean, we don't have a large Latino community in Canada.
01:03:22.980 They do, obviously, in the states.
01:03:24.320 It's larger than the black community. 0.94
01:03:25.620 But woke white liberals use this word Latinx instead of Latino and Latina.
01:03:33.200 They just have this gender-neutral Latinx.
01:03:35.980 And it's so weird.
01:03:38.040 It would be like replacing – you know, there's Mrs., M-R-S. 1.00
01:03:42.320 There's Miss, M-I-S-S. 1.00
01:03:44.120 There's Ms., M-S, which is sort of, you know, a little bit more feminist. 1.00
01:03:50.040 It would be like M-X. 0.87
01:03:53.160 What?
01:03:53.780 What do you know when no one talks like that?
01:03:55.740 But that's how they just – that's the liberal way of saying Latino or Latina, Latinx.
01:04:01.300 And it's just so weird and so Marxist and so engineered and so fake.
01:04:08.460 I think Americans were sort of sick of that.
01:04:10.580 The thing about Trump is there's no fakeness there.
01:04:13.260 He'll blurt it out.
01:04:14.900 And sometimes he goes too far.
01:04:16.600 But then again, I think every human does.
01:04:18.480 And they see Trump do that.
01:04:19.900 And they say, yeah, that's just a normal guy.
01:04:21.460 We know that about him.
01:04:22.460 But they – everything Trump has said is – don't take it literally, but take it seriously.
01:04:31.140 Do you know what I mean by that?
01:04:32.340 And I think that's something Barbara said to me today is, will Donald Trump deport 10 million people?
01:04:38.860 Don't take it literally.
01:04:40.800 Take it seriously as a way to – and I think Barbara Kay was making that point to me.
01:04:44.340 Is Trump really going to deport 10 million or will he just close the wall and deport 1 million?
01:04:50.060 Well, that would be a heck of a progress too, wouldn't it be?
01:04:52.940 We need mass deportations in Canada.
01:04:55.020 Absolutely we do.
01:04:56.520 And what I'm worried about is that Trudeau is going to make another tweet saying, hey, Americans, if you're being deported, come up here.
01:05:02.300 Hopefully he's not that stupid this time around.
01:05:04.780 That's our show for today.
01:05:05.740 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, goodnight.
01:05:10.500 Keep fighting for freedom.
01:05:15.320 Thank you.