EZRA LEVANT ｜ Seismic shifts in U.S. election as mass immigration reshapes the world stage
Summary
Did you know that our foreign minister, Melanie Jolie, went to China on a secret trip? It was not announced, the Chinese announced it. Isn t that weird? We ll talk to our friend Andy Lee about that.
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Hello, my friends. I'm going to cover a lot of bases today, but one of the things I want to tell you we're doing is talking to our friend Andy Lee, who has some strange news about Melanie Jolie's trip to China.
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Did you know that our foreign minister, Melanie Jolie, went to China on a secret trip? It was not announced. The Chinese announced it. Isn't that weird? We'll talk to her about that.
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Tonight, I'll tell you what I think the most interesting stories of the day and the week are. It's July 24th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Oh, hi, everybody. It's great to be back in the chair. You know, I've done a fair bit of traveling in recent months. You might recall I went to Geneva a few weeks ago. That was actually, I guess, a month and a half ago now.
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It was for the negotiations by the World Health Organization countries to sign a global pandemic treaty. I thought that was an interesting place to go to see what kind of energy was left in the contrarian side of things, people who were worried about the pandemic lockdowns.
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Let me tell you, as you know from my reports there, the energy on the World Health Organization side of things. They've got the energy. They've got the patience. They've got the money. Teresa Tam was there.
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I tell you this because it was explaining why I took two days to go to Geneva, a city I had never been to before, because decisions were being made there that affect us here at home.
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That's the reason we also go to the Davos World Economic Forum meeting. We're going to be there again in January.
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Sometimes I worry that I travel too much abroad, but as long as I have a Canadian angle in mind, I think it's worthwhile.
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I say this because, as you know, last week I was in Ireland for only about 60 hours all combined, but that was enough for me to visit three different places and watch the resistance, I'll call it,
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to mass immigration in Kulak, the neighborhood in Dublin where an old paint building, old paint factory, is going to be transformed into a 500-man refugee camp,
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to Newtown Mount Kennedy in a small town where there are men behind sort of a steel cage,
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and then finally in the little village of Dundrum where a town of, well, it's not even a town, 175, 200 people is going to have a 280-person refugee camp.
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What I learned from there besides how wonderful Ireland is and what a lovely place it is and how charming it is and picturesque
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is that there is a fighting spirit in the Irish that I have not seen anywhere else.
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Over the last year, I have traveled to, well, last year I went to Marseille, France for two days to look at the race riots by North African Muslim migrants to France.
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And you might recall this guy who said France colonized Algeria, and now he was here to return the favor.
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Remember this guy I just bumped into on the streets?
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Why millions of Muslims immigrated to France if France is racist?
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Well, they have colonized us for 132 years, and now it's our turn to come here to come here to, how to explain it, I can't find the words.
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They have colonized us for 132 years, and now we are colonized to live until death, until the end of the time.
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Well, we've reported on the migrant crisis in many places, in the United Kingdom, in the Netherlands.
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But when I went to Ireland last week, I saw something I have not seen before, which is a serious protest by the indigenous population against mass immigration.
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I haven't seen that in France. I haven't seen that in the Netherlands. I haven't seen that in the UK.
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I see people sort of generally protesting against the political system, but to block a proposed refugee camp, to have an attempt to burn it down, to be willing to go toe-to-toe with riot cops.
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Have you seen that anywhere else in the world? I have not.
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Now, I am not for violence. I don't think that violence is a way to solve problems in a liberal democracy.
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But I can also understand why there's violence when the central government in Ireland is forcing it down the throats of communities.
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No negotiation, no compromise, no consultation, no permission.
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They literally announce these things, and the local population has to take that.
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It's funny because I saw this speech by Maliki Steenson.
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I was not there when he gave it, but I saw this online, rather.
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He was a newly elected city councillor in Dublin.
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You might recall we bumped into him in May, just on the street at an anti-immigration protest.
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He was just walking in the parade, and I struck up a quick conversation with him.
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The reason was, this was a place where, if I'm not mistaken, a young child was stabbed.
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If it's the incident I'm thinking about, three young children.
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Three young children coming out of a creche, along with their care worker, were attacked by an Algerian migrant.
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That was just in the last few months, wasn't it?
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Well, sorry, it was last, when did that happen, Gavin?
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So that was where it happened, which is why there was a moment of silence.
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Now, I was just asking myself the question, what comes from this?
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There's plenty of Irish who are upset by this, but where's the political party that would-
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Well, there are no political parties that support our position.
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Well, some of them are shifting to our position.
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There'll be a number of independents standing in the European and local elections right across this country.
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There are political parties like IFP and National Party who support us.
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The mainstream political parties are totally out of touch with the ordinary people in this country.
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That was shown very clearly in the two most recent referendums.
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He's now a city councillor in Dublin, and he's against mass immigration.
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Here's his speech from that Kulak neighbourhood in Dublin,
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where they're proposing this 500-person refugee camp in an old paint factory.
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Here he's- his turn of phrase here is not something I've ever heard before.
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Here in Canada, in the United States, in the UK, in places like that,
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people always say there is no place for violence, period.
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But Malachy, I think it's a very Irish way of thinking where he said there's-
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I mean, well, here, I'll let you see it himself.
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He basically said there is a time and place for violence.
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They called us fascist, they called us far-right, they called us everything that they called.
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And what's happening here today has been replicated, not just around this city,
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Two weeks ago, the government came to us with an easy referendum, they taught.
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As soon as they announced the referendum, we told them they lost it.
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The referendum, a number of weeks ago, wasn't about mothers solely.
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We told them we would make the next election about immigration.
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We told them we would make the referendum about immigration.
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All of the problems we have, whether it's the health service, the housing problems,
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all stem from increasing the population from 3.5 million to over 5 million.
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They shifted people in tents out of Mount Street last week for a photo opportunity.
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They complained when they got to the mountains because there was no Wi-Fi.
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And they made their way back with the help of the usual NGOs.
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In the elections coming up, there are many people standing in working-class communities.
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It's important that every candidate that stands for Dublin City Council particularly is elected.
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We need to have a majority in that council in order to make any impact.
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Last week, we launched an initiative telling people, asking people to fly a tricolor this week.
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And none of them European flags, none of the LGBT rags, or none of the other things that all of these leftist NGOs bring to protest.
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The flag that they don't bring is their own flag.
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They complained that we were insulting the flag, that we were using it for political means.
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It's our flag, and we're taking it back from them.
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It's important that we take back this nation from those who seek to destroy it.
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It doesn't matter whether Leopold Actra walks off the pitch and Simba Simon takes over.
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We are the new nationalist movement emerging in this country.
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None of those NGOs could get a crowd like this at any of their rallies.
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The only people who go to their rallies are people in the political system, the people who work for NGOs, and by and large, it's their job to go to these protests.
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This is the first time in the history of this country that a genuine working-class movement has emerged.
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Ordly decent people who want to get on with their lives, who want to rear their families, who want to look after their kids.
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We are taking back this nation from the globalists, from the political and NGO class who seek its destruction.
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Because remember, whereas we have not had violence in Canada in generations, I mean, we were born peacefully.
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The last war Canada really had on the ground was the War of 1812, where we sacked the White House.
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We have never had violent solutions to problems in Canada.
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They had a full-out revolution just over a century ago.
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And, of course, the story of Ireland is resistance and rebellion against many people who would seek to rule over them.
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So when Malachi Steenson said, there's no place for violence yet, it's shocking to my Canadian ears to hear it.
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And I don't think what he was saying was menacing.
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I think he meant he says, folks, we shouldn't be violent yet.
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But it's a reminder that in Ireland, they have sometimes actually solved problems through armed resistance.
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But I think that of all my travels on the migration file, and I'm not the only one who's traveled.
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As you know, Alexa and Lincoln went down to the Mexico border.
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I've had hundreds, and I'm not kidding, hundreds of people show up at my house.
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Thing was, we're out here chasing aliens, you know, we're out here patrolling the border.
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You'd have to answer all your sensors, and you'd go out there and be looking for stuff.
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There's a whole category of people that aren't even being touched right now.
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And earlier, if you might recall, we sent David Menzies to Mexico itself for part of the caravans.
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Well, it's a blistering Saturday afternoon, and the migrant caravan has pulled over for a pit stop here at the crossing of Isla.
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They're going to the town of Isla, which is still further on.
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We're about an hour away from the town they were last in for an overnight stay.
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Now, as you can see, you can't be picky about what kind of transport you want.
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Here's a huge transport truck, but instead of goods, it is packed full of migrants.
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Any ride is better than no ride, given that the alternative is just walking hundreds and hundreds of kilometres yet to go until the U.S. border.
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We're going to try to find if we can speak to some other people here.
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We've already tried to speak with the Mexican human rights people that are following this caravan route.
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They won't talk to us for whatever reason, but maybe someone else will.
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immigration all around the world i have to tell you that ireland is unique at least to me and i'm
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just one guy traveling around ireland is the place where they're pushing back in a way i haven't seen
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anywhere else and that story from uh dumb drum dun drum which is an interesting name where the
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local hotel is being turned into a refugee camp that sort of thing is happening here in canada
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dozens maybe hundreds of hotels in canada have been turned into urban refugee camps and by the way
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they have bought a convent or they're buying a convent in ottawa for the same purpose so they're
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actually doing many of the same things they're doing in ireland they're not forcing it on small
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towns in the same way and we just shrug and roll our eyes and say oh what can you do that's the
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difference that's what i found so fascinating in ireland so that's my report by the way today i was
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invited on dan wooten's broadcast in the uk to talk about it here's 30 seconds of that feels like
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dark times um that your people are killing each other over over something that we feel we should
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have control of like um we don't want this country to be flooded with thousands hundreds of thousands
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of undocumented males like you keep saying women and children it's not we have the videos everybody
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has videos thousands upon thousands of videos i guess it's lies upon lies upon lies and people are waking
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up going like this there's something wrong it's a sinister feeling the irish people have um and
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that's that's what's causing people to show up such powerful words and also ezra uh you spoke to a
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local irish woman who was protesting who also reflected that sort of anxiety thanks for coming
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over really appreciate it we have obviously nobody to speak on our behalf except for we've won local media
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but i want to know what the plan is bringing all these men into ireland young single men putting
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them in a tent what is the plan thank you and ezra how astonishing that it's you and it's rebel news
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a brilliant canadian independent outlet that is giving a voice to the ordinary people of ireland
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because the msm and both united kingdom and ireland has become so corrupt you know i i've traveled to
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probably half a dozen countries to see how mass migration is handled i've been to the netherlands i've
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been to to france of course i've been to the uk i have to say dan that the irish are the first community
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i've seen push back on mass that city councilor you showed a moment ago glenn moore he's an elected
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city councilor when he attended at a protest he was pepper sprayed by police but he didn't bend the knee
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let me just tell you a really quick story about that place you probably saw those tall concrete blocks
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there is an abandoned paint factory in dublin that's huge and it's empty and the government suddenly
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decided they're going to put in at least 500 but maybe many more single military aged migrant men
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there just put them in the factory and turn it into i don't know like a urban refugee camp except for
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right across the street it is a kid's play place and a kid's movie theater and a burger king and the
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local community is saying what are you doing you're putting 500 single men right across the street from
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basically playgrounds and and that neighborhood called kulak is is a lower income neighborhood so
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they're already deprived of services they don't have a lot and the government is has just announced
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ta-da fait accompli 500 men moving into that neighborhood so there have been daily protests
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some local irish youth threw a couple of bottles at police so boom income the riot cops pepper spraying and
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and beating everybody but the irish don't bend the knee and they've come back again and again one
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more anecdote i visited a tiny village called dundrum about 180 200 people live there very small and
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there's a beautiful country hotel dan the government has struck a deal with that hotel to stop using it as
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a hotel kill the tourism that little village and to bring in 280 single military edge migrant men
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so the town has less than 200 people it's a village but the government has announced is bringing in 280
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migrant men there was there's no consultation there's no engagement there's no appeal there's
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there's no discussion it's just in one fell swoop they will end centuries of irish life in dundrum and
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this is happening all over ireland but i i've mentioned i've studied this issue in half a dozen countries
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ireland is the first place i've seen fighting back in the way they are and it's very interesting to see
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and i bet you feel that way as a brit you're a lot closer to it indeed and what was great is that you
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also tracked down some of these migrants and while they didn't answer i think they're part of the issue
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they need to be given a chance to have a say so so this is what happened there aren't refugees usually
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women and children did you guys destroy your documents before you came over i hear that
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happens a lot that people get on a plane but then they shred their documents did you guys do that
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and what sort of behavior are these migrants bringing to ireland not those specific men i should point out
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but you've posted this really shocking video of a woman in a supermarket who was horrified when
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and when a migrant started to take pictures of her children
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what are you doing taking pictures of your child sorry sorry what are you doing taking pictures of my child
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just just for me why are you he's after being taking pictures of my child he's after taking a picture of me
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and i mean this is happening every day ezra these sorts of you know taking taking pictures is the
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least of it as we know from the uk whether it's in um roshdale or telford or rotherham uh things can get
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much worse than these grooming gangs that typically are foreign nationals come in and target
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what used to be a high trust society imagine a small town in rural ireland everyone knows everyone
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you know what i mean by a high trust society everyone looks out for each other when we were in dundrum
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you know people said who are you what are you doing taking pictures because we were filming
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the the street and even just filming the street locals said who are you and and you know that might seem
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uh you know suspicious or paranoid but that's how a town looks after itself you bring in hundreds
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or thousands or hundreds of thousands or millions of foreigners who come from a low trust society
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where women are not allowed out on the streets be precisely because they'll be taken advantage of
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where kids don't play out in the streets precisely because there are marauders what we see is a clash between
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immigrants from a low trust society being dumped and i say dumped because they're just planting hundreds
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of them in this town of dundrum and and the irish i think are being erased and i say that because
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they're the indigenous people of their land the irish never colonized anyone the irish you know didn't
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move there there wasn't the irish never took slaves in fact they themselves were were taken as slaves in
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the by the barbary pilots pirates so here you've got the local indigenous community that's been there
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for thousands of years and they're saying what is happening to us and i don't understand why the irish
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government including nationalists like shin fein who i thought were so ireland for the irish why is
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everyone trying to destroy the irish nature of that country that i do not understand dan so i continue to
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to be animated by this battle over mass immigration and it's not just a question of immigration in
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itself it's when you bring in millions of people to your own country and you naturalize them and make
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them citizens they soon get a right to vote and you can see that in canada not quite the same extent in
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the u.s i don't think i think we're more hurtling down that road but check out these scenes in washington
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dc where benjamin netanyahu the prime minister of israel was addressing congress by the way joe
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biden and kamala harris boycotted the event they claim they had other engagements absolutely astonishing
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but look at the mad crowds on the streets the absolute craziness some of them are woke
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hardcore left-wing americans but a lot of these folks are newcomers when you bring mass migration
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into a country you change the electorate take a look at what was going on outside uh while netanyahu
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as we now know iran is financing a lot of these actions within the united states
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some crazy super gross things they dumped crickets and worms and bugs in the watergate
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hotel where netanyahu is staying take a look at this super gross well the grossness is inside the
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house here's rashida slave holding up a little sign that says war criminal um really when you have
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mass migration of people from anti-semitic countries islamist countries whether it's
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ilhan omar or others it will start to animate uh the political party inside take a look at her
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kamala harris is going to be the candidate as you know for the democrats running in the next
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campaign and as you know she she received no primary vote she dropped out of the primary
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she won no delegates she was polling at like one percent and she was appointed expressly by joe
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biden as a dei running mate a you know diversity candidate because she was a woman of color that
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was her sole credential she had no popular support she was actually deeply unpopular within the
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democratic party for a number of reasons i don't know if you recall but she was actually just torn
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to ribbons by tulsi gabbard in one of the primary debates remember this i want to bring the conversation
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back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and
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brown people all across this country today now senator harris says she's proud of her record as a
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prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president but i'm deeply concerned about this record
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there are too many examples to cite but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations and
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then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana she blocked evidence she blocked
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evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so
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she kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of california
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and she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way
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she's incredibly unlikable kamala harris especially that cackling laugh i don't know if you remember
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but uh a couple years ago we found a great uh impre impersonator an impressionist named sd paltiel
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who did a bunch of videos for us who just nailed that cackle remember this
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well who's laughing now well she is unfortunately and one of the things i saw
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about who would be kamala harris's running mate was a discussion of the possibility of i think he's the
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governor of pennsylvania josh shapiro um who obviously if you're from pennsylvania you're gonna
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you're probably gonna win the state of pennsylvania which is one of those battleground states
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really wisconsin michigan pennsylvania ohio if you win those states you've won the election because
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most of the rest of the country is so republican or so democrat it's not going to change i saw this
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incredible comments um by democratic activists that josh shapiro is a non-starter because he's a jew
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now there's been a jew uh an old um democratic senator named lieberman actually ran on the
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democratic ticket a few years back it's not controversial to have jews in public life especially
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in big cities jewish mayors are very common the occasional jewish governor but imagine so much
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anti-semitism within the democratic party that even the fact that um a candidate is jewish would
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disqualify him i'm a little bit worried about kamala harris if you would have asked me about
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that a year ago i would have said she's incredibly unlikable she is terrible at communicating she is
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terrible to her own staff and is a very high turnover but i don't think any of that is relevant
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because if you remember in the last election joe biden essentially campaigned from a bunker he
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didn't have big rallies he didn't leave the house he claimed it was because of covid we now know it was
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probably because of his cognitive decline don't think they won't do the same exact thing with kamala
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harris keep her in a box have scripted pre-recorded messages nothing off the cuff uh only interviews with
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very friendly media they're going to keep her under control the same way that they did with joe biden
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and they'll just rely on the media repeaters to promote her and i think it's already working
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a week ago when donald trump survived the assassination attempt it was an exhilarating
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moment especially that ultra patriotic image of him with his fist up under the flag that was an
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incredible moment momentum shifted and so did the polls that is gone i think the energy has shifted
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back from the republicans to the democrats the democrats who were despondent over the obvious
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decline of joe biden are now exhilarated that he's gone they don't like kamala harris but they know
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that they won't have the same problems they would have had with biden and i think it's going to be a
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brutal battle i think the entire world turns on it so there's a lot cooking there's a lot going on
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and we'll do our best to cover it i want to point out one more thing today before we get to our guest
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and it was yesterday an alumnus of rebel news you know who i'm talking about kian bexty had a bit of a
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scoop and it was pretty exciting to watch here let me give you a bit of a teaser here's kian announcing
00:31:29.620
his scoop on the internet yesterday i asked you though sorry sorry sir i'll just ask you super
00:31:36.100
quickly your minister said you're going on vacation no don't put your hands on me don't put your hands
00:31:40.260
on me then please more than any political leader on the face of the earth justin trudeau carefully
00:31:44.980
manages his media appearances who's allowed access to him who can get into press conferences who he'll
00:31:51.060
arrest if they get too close who he'll sit down for an interview with you had your media advance call
00:31:58.020
the rcmp because i was going to ask questions we didn't want i wasn't the cbc i wasn't ctv i wasn't
00:32:03.380
global news so we came out here following his catastrophic by-election loss in toronto
00:32:10.020
the prime minister has gone into hiding he refuses to call a caucus meeting and his administration is
00:32:16.180
hanging on by a thread right here sure thank you are you looking for a replacement right now no i am
00:32:25.060
absolutely not i am i'm running in the next election are you concerned at all about your
00:32:29.780
poll numbers no i am not what causes you to not be concerned after reviewing open source information
00:32:36.100
and discerning the whereabouts of prime minister justin trudeau's plane we realized he was in hiding
00:32:41.380
in tofino the mainstream media was calling it a vacation but we knew where he was and we knew that
00:32:47.380
this was the only opportunity we'd have to get questions answered mark paulins said that going on road
00:32:52.820
trip is equivalent to setting the world on fire you can take a summer fun time vacation where
00:32:58.020
you're locked in a car for 10 consecutive days non-stop with no bathroom breaks and the conservatives
00:33:04.180
have a plan for you to have that summer time fun and the cost give up the future of the planet you
00:33:09.700
chartered uh government jet to here tofino i don't i'm not going to do the math on how much carbon that
00:33:15.860
well he managed to think and to to figure out where trudeau was likely having his vacation his annual
00:33:24.820
trip to tofino and he booked a flight there and he and another journalist very low-key they didn't have
00:33:30.340
big cameras they just had their cell phones basically walked the beaches of tofino until they
00:33:35.060
found trudeau and they walked up to trudeau and kian put his questions um and here's a clip that
00:33:42.260
kian put up today of his first moments of the encounter when trudeau got a little bit handsy
00:33:47.460
with him and the rcmp started to swarm here's how that looked
00:34:20.020
in a crisis moment and i guess uh trudeau didn't really know who he was
00:34:24.660
i think if it had been me there or or david menzies i think trudeau would have hated us and
00:34:30.580
let the rcmp do their work but i don't think he quite recognized kian bexty even though in the past
00:34:35.780
he had had kian arrested and so he in the moment trudeau made the decision that it was probably
00:34:42.020
better to do a few minutes of chatter with kian bexty than to have the final images of that
00:34:47.620
encounter being trudeau getting hands in the rcmp arresting him uh so uh kian got 10 minutes with
00:34:54.660
the prime minister and we're going to have kian on the show tomorrow to talk about it because i
00:34:58.980
gotta tell you it was a great act of adventurous citizen journalism and i think it was a home run
00:35:04.740
so he'll be on the show tomorrow and as you know i've worked more days a week than the vast
00:35:12.580
majority of canadians you've actually taken hundreds of vacation days last year sorry you
00:35:18.980
can do the math glenn mcgregor did the math last year pointed out how many days i work as prime minister
00:35:27.140
this equivalent of working every single day of the week and saturday and not taking any day off
00:35:33.540
not any any uh bank holidays not two weeks of vacation nothing i work incredibly hard and i get
00:35:41.380
to be dad with my kids with nothing else going on for 10 minutes anyways i just wanted to talk about
00:35:47.620
a few things whether it was foreign migration the visit of netanyahu to washington dc or how kamala
00:35:53.700
harris suddenly has the energy and the support of the party um just being selected by basically the donors
00:36:00.820
and the and the high-ranking party members there was no grassroots democracy there was no vote it's
00:36:05.700
astonishing and the media has normalized that just an amazing amazing time in politics stay with us in
00:36:12.420
a moment we'll have our friend andy lee talking about where on earth melanie jolie is stay with us for that
00:36:28.660
hey i don't know if you remember but a couple of years ago i had the largest scoop
00:36:32.100
of my life it was sort of an accidental scoop but hey if uh if you work at things for a long time you
00:36:38.420
do get a little bit of luck the story i'm talking about i called at the time the china files and i i
00:36:44.660
had seen some uh story on the russian propaganda website called sputnik that claimed canada had sent
00:36:54.020
a military attache to attend the 50th anniversary of the chinese navy called the people's liberation army
00:37:02.820
navy and this was when they were holding two canadians hostage i couldn't find any evidence
00:37:08.660
evidence of it anywhere else and i wasn't going to believe a russian pr website so i submitted an
00:37:14.660
access to information request to the canadian government they sent me an answer but instead of
00:37:21.460
redacting my question just to be clear was tell me about all contacts between the canadian government
00:37:28.340
and the people's liberation army they sent me a bunch of pages but instead of blacking out
00:37:34.980
all the confidential answers they simply grade them out as in i could see everything in fact more than that
00:37:43.540
what they would have blacked out sort of directed my eyes to what they were most sensitive about it was
00:37:50.020
astonishing to learn of all the ways the canadian government was actively cooperating
00:37:56.660
with china's army including training their officers in canada at canadian military bases
00:38:04.260
in things like winter warfare absolutely astonishing greatest scoop of my life but like
00:38:10.500
i say it sort of landed in my lap accidentally someone in the department of defense either accidentally or
00:38:15.940
maybe even on purpose wanted to get the word out of how close canada was to the chinese well that
00:38:21.460
was a story i did a couple years ago and it was about a sneaky and it started as i mentioned about a sneaky
00:38:28.820
meeting where a canadian military officer was sneakily and secretly sent to china and were it not for
00:38:36.020
the russians ratting them out i wouldn't have learned anyways fast forward to now did you know
00:38:44.500
that canada's foreign minister melanie joe lee went to china secretly last week i didn't know that that's
00:38:54.260
the whole thing about it being a secret we were told about that we learned about that not by our own
00:38:59.540
government but by the chinese government the thought that they would reveal it and in so doing humiliate
00:39:05.860
canada even more joining us now to talk about this is one of our friends who's an excellent independent
00:39:12.020
citizen journalist who occasionally writes some deeply researched stuff for us too on the subject
00:39:18.500
of chinese interference you know who i'm talking about our friend andy lee andy it's great to see you
00:39:24.180
again what a crazy thing for a secret trip from melanie joe lee to china and only to be embarrassed by them
00:39:32.500
what do you make of the whole thing it wasn't so secret in retrospect actually i went back to
00:39:38.900
find out when the stage was set for this so she was actually in munich in february at a security
00:39:44.340
conference and she did meet with china's foreign minister wang yi back then and according to that
00:39:50.900
article there were indications that they were setting up later meetings down the road so this was probably
00:39:56.100
something that was discussed there and and set up quite quite a long time ago but not publicized for
00:40:01.700
obvious reasons what with um you know relations between china and canada being what they were
00:40:06.900
and no doubt at that time that article did say that she was requested to stop hyping up the china threat
00:40:14.660
and that of course would have been right in the middle of you know hoag foreign interference commission
00:40:19.460
meetings and hearings and hearings and things like that so um we found another article on her
00:40:25.940
visit to china not as flattering as a take as as we were maybe led to believe um so yeah this article
00:40:34.420
came out uh i found it on wechat it looked like it was from an anonymous blogger and very unflattering
00:40:43.380
take on on the visit um you know again asking us to stop hyping up the the china threat calling us
00:40:51.060
the loyal dog of the united states they also said that canada is you know making dog food and bringing
00:40:56.580
dog food to the us and you know that they're going to upgrade the sticks that they use to beat dogs
00:41:02.660
with and that of course is a reference to um you know sometimes how dogs are killed in china they
00:41:08.260
are beat with with pipes and then eaten so very very unflattering overall article also brought up um
00:41:17.940
the ev tariffs which is something that we're we're floating around that's electric vehicles so so um
00:41:24.260
china of course is being mass producing electric vehicles what's the ev tariff issue well i mean obviously
00:41:31.300
they don't want them we're looking at other countries that are putting in very very significant tariffs on
00:41:36.820
electric vehicles to protect their own domestic industries and try to wean ourselves off of our
00:41:42.260
reliance in china which has got us you know basically nowhere but in trouble the article also does point
00:41:48.340
out that we have a you know a multi-billion dollar trade deficit with china which is true you know we
00:41:54.340
normalize relations with china during the peer elliott trudeau area in 1978 we had a massive trade surplus
00:42:01.620
with china at that time of course being more developed and since then we've seen that grow to
00:42:07.460
a bigger and bigger deficit so putting you know stricter trade controls and tariffs in place is one
00:42:12.900
of those tools where we can try to regulate our own markets a little bit better and you know reduce
00:42:18.900
reliance on china um you know especially given that the government under xi jinping's rule has taken a
00:42:26.660
uh definite turn one that we were not seeing you know hoping to see uh happen we were hoping to see
00:42:34.500
and this was dang daoping's you know plan was that china would start to open up um but that of course
00:42:41.940
hasn't happened right and every inch that we've given them they've taken a mile and and ran with it
00:42:47.460
so not exactly inaccurate that they do hold quite a bit of power over us um and they are definitely we are
00:42:53.940
probably a little bit more reliant on china right now than we should be uh and you know they have
00:42:59.380
many many many different options uh to look for you know should we get into some sort of a trade skiff
00:43:04.900
or something like that yeah well let me stop there for a second because you've said so many things
00:43:09.860
and i wouldn't mind just unpacking some of them um ev imports or electric vehicles of course there's
00:43:15.300
tesla which dominates the north american market one of the things that i've really learned about tesla
00:43:20.260
over the past year or so is sure it's a car company but it really is a tech company all those
00:43:26.020
cameras on every tesla that goes into their database they're collecting endless data on all
00:43:31.620
their users their habits their travels the way they drive it's the basis upon which they built the
00:43:37.860
autumn autopilot where the car drives itself and the thing is if a car is controlled electronically
00:43:45.940
it can be shut down electronically theoretically tesla could turn off a car could control a particular
00:43:54.340
car there's an enormous amount of power in who controls the the tech side of a car i think that
00:44:01.780
has got to be at least as big an issue for chinese electric vehicle imports as just the sheer competitive
00:44:10.420
threat of them dumping cars in canada beneath market prices i would not want to drive around in a car
00:44:18.500
that's recording everything i do that's studying me and that maybe if i say the wrong thing on twitter
00:44:24.500
the chinese government pushes a button and i can't drive my car anymore
00:44:29.380
yeah it's not i mean it sounds far out there but it's really not that far out there right i mean
00:44:33.700
we know that any conflicts in the future are going to be tough thought not you know probably not with
00:44:38.660
traditional weaponry they're going to be fought technologically and so yeah this is something
00:44:43.300
that's been in the news is you know we've got these self-driving chinese cars who are you know
00:44:48.100
zipping around the united states mapping out neighborhoods and things like that um so you
00:44:53.220
know what are they doing what sort of information are they capturing is anybody noting where they're
00:44:57.220
going what areas they're they're surveilling and things like that how this information is being relayed back
00:45:02.900
to the government what it could be used for could it be used for national security purposes or to
00:45:07.380
diminish the united states national security certainly it could and um yeah you know are
00:45:13.380
they able to control our our mode of transportation down the road and it's not that far out there
00:45:20.340
it's definitely something to to be worth thinking of and of course we don't get that sort of reciprocity
00:45:25.220
we certainly don't get the bus drive our vehicles in china and that's you know the whole sort of
00:45:30.660
crux of this issue is that when you're looking at a reliable trade partner it's a reciprocal relationship
00:45:37.940
right but that's not the kind of relationship we have and david mulroney had a you know he he had a
00:45:44.020
great tweet the other day that i commented on and it's just like you know we can't any longer treat
00:45:49.940
china as being a normal country right because they're not a normal country because we can't have normal
00:45:55.140
relations with the country when we don't have that sort of mutual respect and and reciprocity yeah
00:46:01.140
you know i was thinking about the ev electric vehicles and how they scan everything i we've got
00:46:06.820
little drone cameras drones with cameras in them that we use at rebel news occasionally and dji is the
00:46:13.700
name of a leading brand of drones but there's a lot of other brands and most of them are chinese companies
00:46:20.340
and the thing about a drone is all the video and all the data in the case of dji at least it all goes
00:46:27.060
back to the company and they they require and there's some real reasons for that it stops you
00:46:34.260
from flying near an airport and there's limits on your drone that are imposed on your drone by dji but
00:46:40.740
my point is every single drone flown in north america and canada that data what it sees is being held by
00:46:48.020
a chinese company i think it's sort of terrifying um but let's get back to melanie jolie for a bit i
00:46:54.500
don't regard her as a serious cabinet minister i don't think she's particularly well informed when
00:46:59.460
canada sent a warship down to cuba she didn't know about it she didn't know it was docking there the
00:47:06.260
same time the russians were there with their submarine she she was asked in real time on tv about it
00:47:13.700
and she sort of pled ignorance here's here's that embarrassing moment take a look
00:47:18.020
okay a lot of this is being driven by russia i mean obviously china as well but but russia it would
00:47:23.860
be the primary player as one of the eight arctic nations there is this strange thing happening in
00:47:29.380
cuba minister that i'm wondering if you can help me understand the hmcs margaret brooke which is a
00:47:33.540
patrol vessel from from canada gone to havana for three days starting tomorrow to celebrate canada cuba
00:47:39.380
bilateral relations and there's some eyebrows being raised because it's in port at the same time that
00:47:44.260
russian military vessels including nuclear-powered submarines are there why would canada have a
00:47:49.220
canadian ship in a cuban port at the same time as russian military vessels are there listen this is
00:47:54.500
something that i have to look much more closer to this is an information that is news to me because
00:48:01.860
the minister of defense also works with calf and dnd on this very issue but of course we'll look into
00:48:09.540
this and get back one so i don't think she's well briefed i don't think she's particularly
00:48:14.420
interested in foreign affairs i think she just reads what her media briefers tell her to read
00:48:21.380
so when she went to china i i really do believe the the theory that she was brought there as a dressing
00:48:29.380
down can i read that thing that you found in chinese on the internet i'd love you to to talk a
00:48:34.100
little more about it so this is what you discovered by searching around on that social media site
00:48:41.460
called wechat which is like a chinese twitter and uh you you translate it as
00:48:49.380
she was called to beijing to be quote reprimanded quote the trudeau government has become the loyal dog
00:48:56.180
of the united states and you mentioned a stick to beat her with so it sounds like she was being brought
00:49:02.260
to china to be criticized to get a dressing down to almost to be disciplined as if she works for china
00:49:10.260
as if she should be more loyal to china like it it's sort of weird to me that she would go there
00:49:17.380
to be humiliated well i mean you you say it wasn't really a secret but the chinese revealed it too which
00:49:23.540
has got to be embarrassing why would melanie jolie go to china i know why the chinese would want her there
00:49:29.540
to humiliate her and give her a stern lecture but what's in why would canada send her there
00:49:37.780
that's a very good question because i don't see anything that was gained geopolitically by this
00:49:45.780
meeting um it didn't seem to thaw relations at all um it did seem to maybe create more of a rift
00:49:55.860
um especially the way that the mission was carried out it was carried out in a very you know sort of
00:50:00.500
you're right a hush you know shush shush non-diplomatic non-official manner aside from her
00:50:06.980
meeting with yang uh wangi and that's on cctv it's online um and that's china central television of
00:50:14.660
course not answers to the state propaganda department so that's online and you can see
00:50:19.940
those discussions and they're very uncomfortable and she looks very uncomfortable so why was she
00:50:26.260
sent um was this just a sizing up of each other um you know maybe they want to get a better
00:50:34.500
understanding of you know some of the new laws that we're putting in place we're of course looking well
00:50:38.340
we've passed a bill that will give us a foreign asian registry act right and that's something that
00:50:45.060
we're putting into place so no doubt that came up they're obviously very upset about the hearings this
00:50:51.300
is something that gets parroted time and time again is that they're hyping up the china threat
00:50:55.940
and that we don't interfere in other people's um you know internal matters and things like that we of
00:51:01.940
course know that that's completely untrue and there's good hard evidence otherwise that they've been
00:51:07.380
working actively to interfere in our internal matters and our elections among other things so that's
00:51:14.740
that's the big question is why did they send jolie there right to get a dressing down um and and what
00:51:23.860
was gained for it and what else did she do there we don't know we only know of this one meeting
00:51:28.420
she was there for several days so i'm trying to figure out what else she got up to but i haven't
00:51:33.060
seen anything yet but i will keep looking to see what other meetings take place and the reason that i
00:51:38.820
bring this up is that the last time melanie jolly was in china and this is very very important and
00:51:46.500
something that was never brought up in the media and something that was kept very very hush-hush is
00:51:50.900
that she was sent on a trade mission with john mccallum to china this was in 2018 and during that
00:51:59.060
meeting they quietly met with zhang bin who was the leader of the china cultural industry association
00:52:04.660
and that of course was the association that donated money to the trudeau foundation
00:52:10.020
that was later returned so she did that meeting it was not well publicized there was no press about it
00:52:15.860
this was just something that we happened to come upon and we were like whoa whoa hold on
00:52:20.580
you know we had all these hearings and these committee meetings about the trudeau foundation and
00:52:24.580
that very controversial donation um which was you know eventually returned because it was supposed to be
00:52:31.300
being reimbursed by the chinese government we still don't really know exactly what happened there but
00:52:36.100
we do know because there's a meeting that melanie jolly met and with one of the men who initiated the
00:52:43.220
donation in china and nobody said anything during the hearings so you have to wonder what else she was up
00:52:50.180
to while she was there given that i'm not going to say she's lied about it but this was never uncovered and
00:52:57.940
it would have been interesting information i'm sure to learn that maybe when we were told that there
00:53:02.820
was no influence bought from this donation well maybe that wasn't exactly correct she's on a fundraising
00:53:09.700
trip right now i mean uh maybe she is compromised in some way because of uh what she would have said
00:53:16.980
six years ago in that fund i mean that's the thing about china is they they have a total approach to
00:53:24.420
espionage industrial espionage political espionage just general information gathering i think they're
00:53:30.660
into big data they hoover up everything they can i mean i i think that the liberals especially six years
00:53:38.500
ago if that's when you you're saying melanie jolly went to china and met with this fundraiser
00:53:44.100
every word she would have said would have been recorded of course everything she did would have been noted
00:53:50.500
and it would not surprise me given the liberal mindset in 2018 when they were still high in the
00:53:57.780
polls and they were still confident and they were still in their first term remember they that was
00:54:02.980
when they could do no wrong it would not surprise me if melanie jolly said some things made some promises
00:54:11.220
that would have trapped her i and i have no basis for this other than the liberals are arrogant and they
00:54:18.660
hoovered up as much money from china as they could and the 2019 election and the 2021 election were the
00:54:26.260
ones that were compromised so to 2018 they would have been working her they would have been trying to
00:54:34.020
in some way break her conflict her um compromise her i bet they had was she did she go was she the
00:54:42.500
foreign minister back in 2018 or did she go in a different capacity no she was there i believe that
00:54:48.580
she was minister of heritage at the time and so no reason to go no i mean the minister of heritage does
00:54:54.500
not need to go to china but if you're there on behalf of a fundraiser and for the liberal party
00:54:59.940
i bet they have something on her well i think it was a little bit of a reciprocical relationship you
00:55:06.180
know what um you know we introduced you to this guy he offered some money to the trudeau foundation
00:55:11.300
this is our cultural association down the road you return the favor right so it looks like
00:55:16.660
down the road the favor was returned they went down there signed partnership agreements
00:55:21.540
um you know to you know with their media associations and things like that
00:55:26.500
obviously that was probably in hindsight a very very bad move knowing what we know now more given
00:55:32.740
the recent reports and we know that a lot of these cultural associations and media associations
00:55:38.100
are really operated you know behind the scenes by the chinese government the overseas chinese affairs
00:55:43.140
office also known as the united front so you know they were kind of reeled in but so i mean that's
00:55:50.100
why i have serious questions as to what jolie was seriously up to because i mean probably the
00:55:55.700
appropriate thing to do when the trudeau foundation was under that tremendous amount of scrutiny
00:56:00.820
for that donation and that donation was being returned and everybody was looking for answers
00:56:05.060
we even had justin trudeau's brother pulled up in committee hearings probably somebody should have said
00:56:10.580
down the road well hey guess what we actually met this guy in china later on right um and those
00:56:17.380
meetings are so important because it's everybody talks about combating foreign interference well here
00:56:22.740
it is right in front of our face nobody's being honest about how it's executed so how did this deal go
00:56:28.100
down when did you meet him who approached you right how do we understand how this works and how do you
00:56:33.940
fight it honestly earnestly if you really want to fight it and i have serious doubts as to whether they
00:56:38.900
really want to fight it at all if you're not honest about how these meetings take place right how do
00:56:44.580
these introductions happen if you've been compromised and they have dirt on you you're still an asset for
00:56:51.620
the other side i really think the liberals have compromised themselves and the government we'll have
00:56:57.380
to maybe have to do another access to information and maybe someone on the inside will forget to redact the
00:57:02.660
response to me andy it's great to catch up with you i love following you on twitter i want to encourage
00:57:07.780
everyone to do the same and to see you on twitter your twitter handle is real andy lee show and it's
00:57:15.140
no surprise to me that you have 150 000 followers which is very large for an independent journalist
00:57:21.620
it's because of the original digging you do including in chinese language sources it's always a delight to
00:57:28.820
see you come back anytime keep up the great work my friend yeah thank you and if i might just add
00:57:35.380
one more thing quickly i know a lot of people talking about well it's just a we chat opinion piece and
00:57:40.100
it is an opinion piece but the author is um he's he's at chow uh young he and so like i said he was a
00:57:47.700
former uh people's liberation army naval officer and he's also promoted by um there's a china association
00:57:57.940
for science and technology so i went and found this anonymous wechat blog and here he is and so he's
00:58:06.500
promoted as one of the 100 accounts to follow under this government initiative so you know he has a
00:58:13.220
certain amount of endorsement obviously clout within the chinese government he's one of only 100 accounts
00:58:19.620
named out of 1.4 billion chinese people so to just sort of discount his opinion on the you know the
00:58:29.460
disastrous joe lee trip is a little bit premature i think um because obviously and he is a chinese
00:58:36.420
communist party member so you know is this representative of of how they actually really felt
00:58:42.340
and is this well he certainly has influence in china obviously and is a man of status and you know
00:58:51.220
that post has been viewed i think a hundred and uh over a hundred thousand times now so people are
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certainly absorbing that information so this is our image on the world stage this is our image in china
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and it is important this would be akin to one of our generals writing you know our retired generals writing
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a similar unflattering piece which just wouldn't happen it's absolutely an official comment if he is
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listed as a hundred accounts to follow um that list is not generated with anything other than china's
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national interests in mind and that china is mocking us they're laughing at us and trudeau is just
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taking it because he is as compromised now as he ever was we'll keep in touch andy great to see you again
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yeah thanks for having me and it's good to see you again well it's our pleasure there you have it
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real andy lee show on twitter our friend andy lee stay with us more ahead
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hey welcome back your letters to me about the ireland trip 65 p baker says these countries have
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to come together and send these people right back where they came from god bless ireland
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well that's the thing and especially when i was in that town called newtown mount kennedy
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they said these folks were just walking over from the uk and i thought walking over but remember the
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map ireland is an island but the the top part of the island is called northern ireland and it's
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actually part of the united kingdom the full name of that country is the united kingdom of great britain
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and northern ireland so these fake refugees get on a boat in france sail across the english channel
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get to stay in the uk they make their way to northern ireland and then they just walk across
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the border into ireland and as they said they've got all this british slang hey gov how you doing bruv
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like they're talking like british downtown slang in london they're not coming from pakistan or
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somalia or nigeria or palestine directly to ireland of course not there are no direct flights from those
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places so they are absolutely fake and that's the thing no one believes it for a second there are some
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ukrainian refugees there and and they're a handful in their own way but i don't think anyone thinks
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the ukrainians are faking the russian invasion and it's typically ukrainian families and from the
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reports i see they're typically not engaged in some of the anti-social conduct that some of these other
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migrants are it's just incredible another letter from normal guy crazy world who says
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our governments have sold us out to the highest bidder that's exactly what i've detected i mean
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that hotel in the small town the village of dundrum i don't know how much money they were paid to turn
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themselves into a refugee camp but it must have been a lot too much for him to resist we have the same
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sort of thing in canada too but instead of hotels who are on the payroll too you have dozens of fake
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colleges basically selling immigration papers in the form of tuition they're fake schools with fake bs
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degrees and they basically charge you 10 or 20 grand to enroll get a student visa once you have
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your acceptance there and it's just a way of getting people into this country it's a fake thing
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it's all about money but they're selling out the country from the rest of us they're selling canada out
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for a few pieces of silver i hate it it's going on in ireland and around the world too so show for
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today until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good night