Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show： April 26 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, no surprise, Trudeau's liberals see the Toronto attack as an opportunity

00:00:04.380 to censor the internet. It's April 26th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:15.060 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:18.860 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.580 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.560 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:00:30.600 bloody right to do so.

00:00:36.160 What did the Toronto attack this week have to do with the internet?

00:00:41.160 Well, nothing. Or to be more accurate, we don't know yet. We know that a suspect named Alec

00:00:47.960 Manassian was arrested after ramming pedestrians on a North Toronto sidewalk. He killed 10 and

00:00:53.980 wounded many more. Horrific. Many people thought it was a terrorist attack since that's the preferred

00:00:59.060 methodology of ISIS these days. Many truck attacks, van attacks in the UK, Germany, France.

00:01:06.260 One of the worst was in the city of Nice, France, when the streets were closed for a national holiday

00:01:11.500 and thousands of people were lining the streets and a Muslim terrorist commandeered a massive truck,

00:01:16.980 huge, like the size of a semi, and just kept barreling down the road on and on and on. It 0.85

00:01:22.980 was such a big truck, nothing could stop it. He literally murdered 85 people and injured more

00:01:28.780 than 400. Imagine that, killing or injuring 500 people just with a truck. That's like hijacking

00:01:36.380 an airline. That's a sizable fraction of the death toll of 9-11 itself. It happened again,

00:01:42.320 smaller scale on Westminster Bridge. So it's an ISIS move. But the suspect in Toronto has a name that

00:01:49.220 sounds Armenian, which suggests he's not Muslim. And from what scraps of information have been

00:01:54.480 gleaned from secondhand sources, he sounds like he was socially very awkward, that he may have in fact

00:02:00.200 had mental issues. We know he was briefly a recruit to the Canadian Armed Forces, but he flunked out

00:02:06.400 after a few weeks, which suggests a mental misfit. And we have this Facebook page, which is allegedly

00:02:13.560 his, but it has not been officially and publicly confirmed by Facebook yet, or by the police. It's

00:02:19.760 alleged. It's easy to fake a Facebook page, and given that this image first appeared on a website

00:02:24.540 called Reddit, that's notorious for making hoaxes and tricks and jokes, especially gallows humor in the

00:02:30.240 time of crisis, I still treat this artifact with some skepticism. I'm open to it being confirmed as

00:02:35.880 illegitimate by Facebook, but so far it's only unofficial. So we take it with a little grain of

00:02:39.720 salt. But let me read it to you, what is alleged that Manassian wrote right before he rammed all

00:02:46.060 those people on the street. According to this Facebook post, he said,

00:02:50.520 Private Recruit Manassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sergeant 4chan, please, C23249161.

00:02:59.640 The incel rebellion has already begun. We will all overthrow all the Chads and Stacys. All hail the 1.00

00:03:08.940 supreme gentleman, Elliot Rodger. Now that's gobbledygook, of course. But let me translate.

00:03:16.800 Elliot Rodger was an American who four years ago went on a killing spree, shooting and stabbing people.

00:03:21.560 But before he did, he taped a vanity video on YouTube, giving his explanation as having trouble

00:03:27.660 getting attention from women. He had various mental illnesses as well, enough to be prescribed

00:03:32.860 medication, which he refused to take. He had personal issues, too, a broken family.

00:03:38.980 And he took it out on strangers, stabbing and shooting them before killing himself.

00:03:43.260 So that's the Elliot Rodger here. Incel is internet slang for someone who is involuntarily celibate.

00:03:51.860 That is, someone who can't meet and relate to women, can't get a date. 0.95

00:03:55.120 When he refers to overthrowing Chads and Stacys, those are internet nicknames for socially successful

00:04:02.200 men and women. A Chad is a guy who can get a date with a Stacey.

00:04:07.140 This is pretty obscure. This is pretty weird. It's sort of fantasy weirdness, too, that has

00:04:12.200 become the official explanation for the attack. There's a glee out there, of course, amongst

00:04:16.520 the left, that Manassian doesn't seem to be Muslim and doesn't seem to be motivated by terrorism

00:04:20.620 of the usual variety. If indeed he was motivated by some sort of anger at women, or women and men,

00:04:26.340 as the Chad's part suggests. And Elliot Rodger killed both men and women. He hated women who

00:04:31.920 wouldn't sleep with him. And he hated men who were successful with women. Well, the left prefers that 0.99

00:04:37.380 narrative. Angry men are killers. Angry because they're men, not because they're Muslims or whatever. 0.99

00:04:41.940 My view is, lock them up. Whatever their motivation is, they're murderers. Like I say, 1.00

00:04:47.680 it's not a lot to go on because we have no official confirmation of the authenticity that Facebook

00:04:52.640 posts. I'm prepared to accept it as authentic, of course, but not based on an uncorroborated internet

00:04:57.840 rumor. But let's accept it for the purpose of debate because the political media establishment

00:05:01.700 has accepted it. I have no information that they don't. And look at what they plan to do with that,

00:05:08.960 the political media establishment. Look at Melanie Jolie, the heritage minister.

00:05:13.700 So obviously the question of gender equality is extremely important. And the question also of

00:05:21.700 criminal behavior is not obviously tolerated in reality and can't be tolerated online. People's

00:05:30.660 behavior must be the same online and offline. And therefore, we call upon the web giants to make

00:05:38.940 sure that they counter any form of hate speech and any form of discrimination.

00:05:45.280 Now, of course, it's important that no one should commit a crime online any more than they should

00:05:49.500 commit a crime in real life. You can commit a crime on a telephone. You can commit a crime by post office.

00:05:55.220 The internet is not a place for outlaws. But Alec Manassian's crime, if he is convicted,

00:06:00.440 and I suspect he will be, was not an internet crime. It was killing people with a van on a sidewalk.

00:06:05.500 And let me read again what he wrote on Facebook, if indeed it was authentic. He wrote,

00:06:11.020 Private Recruit Manassian Infantry, triple zero one zero, wishing to speak to Sergeant 4chan,

00:06:15.600 please. And then a number. The incel rebellion has already begun. We will overthrow all the 0.98

00:06:20.320 Chads and Stacys. All hail the Supreme Gentleman, Elliot Roger. I'm sorry, writing that is not a crime.

00:06:27.500 That's weird. That's crazy, maybe. And it calls for a military style uprising and salutes a murderer.

00:06:36.020 But it is neither a crime in itself, nor would it possibly even reach the level of uttering a threat.

00:06:40.980 You couldn't even call it discrimination. It was against both men and women, Chads and Stacys.

00:06:45.920 I can't even believe I'm parsing such a nutty, weird thing that was written. And if indeed he wrote it,

00:06:51.400 and if it was, in fact, his motivation, then that's the fact. And it may well show his motivation,

00:06:56.800 so it would explain his later crime. But how on earth the statement itself could be seen as crime,

00:07:03.680 or even as discrimination, or even as hate speech? I don't see it. It makes no sense. You couldn't

00:07:09.000 possibly vet every weird comment like that, so vague, so fantastical on Facebook. I mean,

00:07:14.760 there's two billion users in dozens of languages. How could you? You couldn't.

00:07:19.040 So what exactly is Melanie Jolie asking the web giants to do? And it's not just her, of course.

00:07:26.560 Jolie calls on web giants to fight hate speech from incels after van attack. It's a headline in

00:07:32.420 iPolitics. So I guess Jolie has tried and convicted Manassian already. She might be prescient. There's

00:07:37.620 a lot of that trying and convicting by Trudeau. Cabinet ministers these days isn't there,

00:07:41.780 including that farmer in Saskatchewan who was acquitted by a jury,

00:07:44.580 but convicted by Trudeau and his justice minister politically. Here's Patty Hajdu,

00:07:49.040 the employment minister quoted in that iPolitics story. She said,

00:07:53.300 from my perspective, we have to have a conversation about misogyny,

00:07:56.820 about the rise in hate and the connection to what some call the alt-right, she said.

00:08:02.740 Now, there used to be a tradition of cabinet ministers not weighing into criminal court cases

00:08:06.500 before they're done, especially before the facts are heard. I think that's wise, not just in terms of

00:08:12.160 the separation of powers, the legislators, the executive, the judiciary, but it could actually

00:08:16.900 prejudice the trial. If a federal cabinet pronounces someone guilty and they're found guilty,

00:08:23.540 could that conviction be overturned because of bias or lack of fairness? It wouldn't be the first time.

00:08:29.000 Now, that's a side point, but the main point is, look what's really going on here. This was a horrific

00:08:33.520 mass murderer. Looks to me like they caught the guy pretty clearly. I won't prejudge it myself.

00:08:39.720 He's still not convicted. But we all saw the video of his takedown. And let's say for a moment that the

00:08:44.700 Facebook post is not only authentic, but it really shows his motivation. He couldn't have sex, and

00:08:50.460 women who spurned him, and he hated them, and he hated the men who were successful. So do you see 0.99

00:08:56.900 what the liberals have done? They've tied that crime somehow to the alt-right. That's what Patty 0.98

00:09:03.880 Haidu said. Now, what's the alt-right? Now, I understand the term, if I do. It's white nationalism.

00:09:10.640 It's racism. Now, Alex Manassian himself isn't typically considered white. He's Armenian. You

00:09:18.080 can see he's a slightly different skin color to get into racial taxonomy. I don't think

00:09:22.940 the alt-right would call him white. I don't know his religion. I don't know if it's even possible 0.53

00:09:28.040 for him to be alt-right. But his ideology, again, with all the caveats, if that was him who did the

00:09:33.680 murders, if that was him on the Facebook page, if that was his motivation, what does being mad about

00:09:39.080 not having a relationship have to do with white nationalism and being alt-right? Elliot

00:09:45.120 Roger wasn't white either, by the way. His mom was Malaysian. His stepmom was Moroccan.

00:09:51.440 This isn't a race thing. This isn't a conservative thing. This is a sexual frustration thing, maybe.

00:09:59.380 In Roger's case, it was a mental illness thing. Looks like that could be the case with Manassian, too. 0.63

00:10:04.840 But so what, right? I mean, never let a crisis go to waste. That's the left-wing rule. The liberal

00:10:12.200 cabinet has all agreed this was a right-wing terrorist attack. Alt-right, to use their catch-all

00:10:19.260 phrase. And so they're demanding the web giants, Facebook, Google, YouTube, Twitter, they all have to

00:10:26.880 stop it. But you can't stop people who feel snubbed in a relationship. That's all of us,

00:10:35.540 surely, at one point or another in our lives. You can't stop people from moaning or complaining about

00:10:39.900 their relationships. That's half the chatter on social media for young people. You can't ban that.

00:10:45.340 Even if you would have seen Manassian's alleged post a week ago, you'd say, okay, it's a bit kooky,

00:10:50.760 a bit obscure, a little bit emotional, but that's it. There's literally no way you could censor

00:10:56.540 every emotional woe or every lamentation about a date gone wrong. You couldn't. And of course,

00:11:03.780 that is not what Melanie Jolie wants to do or Patty Hyde do. Their goal is to use this mass murder 1.00

00:11:11.540 as proof that they need the power to censor their opposition, but their normal, natural,

00:11:19.400 mainstream, mentally healthy of political opponents. It's exactly what Justin Trudeau

00:11:25.140 himself told Facebook a few months ago. You censor political news we don't like before the next

00:11:30.020 election or we'll punish you. It's got nothing to do with what happened in the North Toronto Street.

00:11:34.820 It's got nothing to do with stopping actual crimes. It's got nothing to do with emotionally

00:11:40.120 bent men. It's got everything to do with censoring their political opponents and labeling any political

00:11:46.800 dissident, any political dissent as alt-right and hate speech, and then banning it as if it's a

00:11:54.700 criminal act. That's what's going on here, by the way, with the total unanimous support of the liberal

00:12:02.180 media. Stay with us for more. 0.60

00:12:10.120 We invested significantly in ensuring that we have a robust immigration system that is able to handle

00:12:28.260 asylum seekers and irregular arrivals. We will continue to make sure that Canada is a strong 1.00

00:12:34.760 and open country that applies the rules of its immigration system.

00:12:39.300 Well, that last part is certainly debatable, applies the rules of the immigration system. One

00:12:43.340 of the rules is called the Safe Third Party Agreement with the United States, which says,

00:12:48.440 as a matter of fact and law, you cannot be a refugee if you come from each other's country. I mean,

00:12:55.860 Canada, the United States, we have no refugees from our countries. In fact, the flood of asylum

00:13:03.520 seekers just walking across the border from the United States has caused a bit of a crisis.

00:13:09.400 There was a Quebec Parti Quebecois MNA, member of their National Assembly, who actually called for

00:13:15.780 the building of a border fence between Quebec and New York, if you can believe it, echoing Donald

00:13:22.580 Trump himself. And just today, John Tory, the mayor of Toronto, has put out a desperate press release

00:13:29.920 saying Toronto itself cannot handle any more of Trudeau's asylum seekers. According to this press

00:13:37.160 release, the number of refugees in Toronto's shelter system has increased from 459 in 2016 to 2,351

00:13:49.080 today. And Trudeau said he's going to jack that number up quite surely by bussing in asylum seekers 0.56

00:13:57.100 from Quebec to Toronto because Quebec says it's at its breaking point. One last thing before I

00:14:04.160 introduce our guest, this all came from a tweet. Justin Trudeau tweeting a sub-tweet, as they call

00:14:13.720 it, a countering, counter-messaging Donald Trump. Last January, when Trump brought in his executive

00:14:19.860 order about open borders, Justin Trudeau responded by saying, to those fleeing persecution, terror,

00:14:25.760 and war, Canadians will welcome you regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength. A quarter

00:14:32.060 of a million people liked that. 165,000 retweeted that. And since that time, we've had more than 50,000

00:14:40.260 people simply walk across the border. Joining us now to talk about how to square these circles and

00:14:45.820 rectangles is our friend Giddy Mammon, a longtime refugee and immigration lawyer. Giddy, great to see you

00:14:52.540 again. It's quite something when John Tory literally counts the number of asylum seekers in homeless

00:15:00.820 shelters in Toronto. It's quadrupled in the last two years. It's going to go up some more. Does anyone

00:15:07.100 in the immigration department care about John Tory's homeless shelters, or is that just his problem?

00:15:15.200 Well, they're going to have to care because there is a big hole in the fence in Canada at our border,

00:15:20.720 border. And the government simply refuses to close that hole in the fence, because it would

00:15:27.020 contradict the persona that our prime minister is trying to project. And you did a good job by

00:15:35.020 explaining how that persona came to be. With that infamous tweet, he basically rolled out the red

00:15:41.600 carpet for anyone who wants to come to Canada. So it's now very difficult for him to backtrack and to

00:15:47.560 close the hole in the fence. But that's exactly what needs to be done. So I don't think we need

00:15:53.120 to be concerned with just John Tory. This is inevitable. If you're going to allow people to

00:16:00.220 come in every single day, those numbers are going to grow. And that's what we're seeing. I don't think

00:16:04.740 anyone should be surprised by that. You know, I saw other news recently this week in Ontario,

00:16:10.780 a major regional hospital was coming up with policies for how to treat patients in hallways.

00:16:18.660 So they no longer regard stashing patients in the hallway as an anomaly to be, you know, remedied.

00:16:27.940 But that's a new permanent solution in overcrowded Ontario hospitals is, here's the rules for treating

00:16:34.700 patients in the hallway. I got to imagine that situations like that are going to increase. If we

00:16:40.240 basically say to the world, come one, come all, you've got a great chance of beating the law.

00:16:47.960 Even if you lose your application for refugee status, it'll be many years before that happens.

00:16:55.260 Come here. And now we have Ahmed Hassan, the immigration minister, saying that catastrophic

00:16:59.660 illness is now no longer a barrier to immigration. These are all PR statements that he and Trudeau are

00:17:09.360 saying, but it's the cities and the provinces that have to cover the cost, whether it's homeless

00:17:14.800 shelters or hospitals. I don't know how this can continue, Giddy.

00:17:20.000 Well, I don't know either. I mean, the real question here is when the government is going to decide that

00:17:27.260 enough is enough. You're absolutely right. The federal government is entitled to set immigration policy, 0.81

00:17:33.240 but social services under our constitution, health and social services is a provincial matter.

00:17:40.680 So the provinces are picking up a significant portion of the tab here. Quebec looks like they've

00:17:46.660 had enough. And at the beginning, they seem to be very open minded, let's say, of new potential

00:17:54.560 immigrants coming to their province. But I think they're at their breaking point right now. And the idea to just 1.00

00:18:00.900 simply spread the damage around the country, i.e. to Ontario, is insane. The Safe Third Country Agreement

00:18:09.140 has been talked about a lot and has been described as some sort of a barrier to solving this problem.

00:18:18.560 It is not a barrier whatsoever. The Safe Third Country Agreement was simply designed to make sure that a person

00:18:26.500 cannot make a claim both in Canada and the United States. They have to make their claim at the first stop.

00:18:33.460 So what is happening here is we're just simply seeing a government that refuses to do what every

00:18:39.440 government is supposed to do, which is to enforce the border. If people want to make a refugee claim,

00:18:45.400 they can just go to a regular port of entry. And if they qualify, they'll be processed. And if they

00:18:50.960 don't qualify, they will not be processed. But the idea that we have some sort of international

00:18:55.960 obligation to leave a big hole in the fence is crazy and has absolutely no foundation in law.

00:19:03.860 Yeah. It's interesting to me that Justin Trudeau, whose own riding is in Quebec, and I think a lot of

00:19:10.580 his re-election strategy is counting on Quebec because he sees both Jagmeet Singh and Andrew Scheer as

00:19:16.980 non-Quebeckers who with poor French language skills who are culturally non-Quebecois. 0.60

00:19:22.580 So I think to put a partisan layer on it, Trudeau's counting on Quebec to get him re-elected.

00:19:28.500 And you mentioned Quebec's at the breaking point. I think you're right.

00:19:32.320 It's amazing to me that Trudeau is saying, well, just shove him over to Toronto. They'll take it.

00:19:40.280 We won't give them any money along with it. But we are clearly playing favorites. We will respect

00:19:47.280 the reluctance or the budgetary restraint in Quebec, and Toronto can just handle it. And soon that's

00:19:55.500 going to be Doug Ford's problem anyway. Like, it's just so transparent to me that Justin Trudeau is

00:20:00.420 favoring Quebec questions and skepticism and say, ah, Toronto, whatever, dump him there. I mean,

00:20:07.500 it's really quite something that he's just so brazenly bussing Quebec's problem into Ontario. I find

00:20:13.920 that odd. Well, there's a couple of layers to this, Ezra. First of all, the fact that somebody enters

00:20:19.960 Canada through a hole in the fence in Quebec does not mean that he's stuck in Quebec. The very next

00:20:26.580 minute, he can go to Vancouver, he can go to Winnipeg, he can go to anywhere he wants, Halifax. The fact

00:20:32.580 is, before this arrangement that is being proposed by our Prime Minister, that they come to Ontario,

00:20:39.440 before he invites them here, you should know that they were already coming here. People who are making

00:20:45.440 refugee claims in Quebec were not necessarily interested or intending to remain in Quebec.

00:20:50.580 Like much of the Canadian immigrants, the immigrants to Canada, many of them who are destined to a 1.00

00:20:58.600 particular province eventually end up in Ontario. Typically, about 40-45% of all immigration to

00:21:07.700 Canada ends up in Ontario, one way or the other. So it's not a Quebec problem, and we don't need

00:21:12.760 Justin Trudeau's invitation for them to come here. They were coming already. Right. So, you know,

00:21:18.920 this idea that he can control where people end up when they're coming in uncontrolled is ridiculous,

00:21:28.380 and it's just not the way it actually works. You know, that's a good reminder. And of course,

00:21:32.780 the folks who would want to stay in Quebec are likely those who would be French-speaking

00:21:36.660 naturally, and that may be the Haitian wave that was departing the United States. Remember, 0.54

00:21:41.520 these are people who are coming from the U.S. Some have just come immediately to the U.S.,

00:21:47.180 but some have been there for years and are just self-deporting before Trump boots them out,

00:21:51.300 thinking they have better bets up here. I detect in Justin Trudeau and his immigration, 0.99

00:21:57.000 Ahmed Hassan, not a scintilla, not a jot, not an iota of sober second thought or hesitation that

00:22:07.140 the track they're on is incorrect. I see in immigration polling, Canadians are fed up or

00:22:13.640 skeptical. We hear that from the Parti Québécois. We're even hearing it from John Tory, but not even

00:22:18.560 a flicker in the federal livers. Is there any sense that they're on the wrong track, or are they just,

00:22:24.520 stand the torpedoes here? I know as a fact they understand they're on the wrong track. The problem

00:22:32.160 is they don't know how to reverse what is going to become one of the most expensive tweets in Canadian

00:22:38.820 history. They just don't know how to reverse that. Remember, he came in, the context was the United

00:22:47.460 States, was on a track of very negative attitudes towards immigration and refugees. It's clear that

00:22:55.940 he wanted to contrast his campaign from that. He also did that to distinguish his immigration plan

00:23:04.880 for Syrian refugees against the Conservative and the NDP plan when he was seeking election, and he then

00:23:13.560 reinforced it with this tweet. It was one of the most remarkable tweets, but the problem is he can't

00:23:19.440 seem to find a way to backtrack. And the question is, how much pain is Justin Trudeau prepared to expose

00:23:28.940 this country to before he says, you know what, maybe that wasn't a wise move. Let's do what is the

00:23:34.840 obvious solution and just enforce that border. And that's the end of it.

00:23:39.920 Yeah, you're right. That is about saving face. And in fact, I think back the last two and a half

00:23:46.280 years, I don't recall Justin Trudeau swallowing his pride. I think to him, not blinking is a

00:23:53.320 political imperative. We'll have to see. I like your phrase, the most expensive tweet in Canadian

00:23:58.840 history. Giddy, it's always good to catch up with you. Thanks for your straight talk.

00:24:02.480 Thank you for having me.

00:24:03.400 All right. What a pleasure. That's Giddy Mammon. As you know, he's one of Canada's leading experts in

00:24:07.500 immigration and refugee law and has practiced both for many years. Stay with us. More ahead on The

00:24:12.860 Rebel.

00:24:24.400 Welcome back. Well, there is a terrible case of child abuse going on in the United Kingdom. I'm not

00:24:29.600 talking about the industrial scale rape gangs of young girls at the hands of Pakistani Muslim 1.00

00:24:36.920 migrants. I'm talking about child abuse of a young boy named Alfie Evans, who has a neurological 0.99

00:24:43.200 disorder. The child abuse is not at the hands of his parents or at the hands of any strangers.

00:24:49.460 Rather, it's at the hands of the UK government itself and their government health care system

00:24:54.920 called the NHS. They will not give Alfie the treatment he needs or he wants. They have

00:25:01.800 basically sentenced him to die. But worse than that, they refuse to discharge him from the hospital

00:25:08.420 to allow his parents to take him to medical treatment in another jurisdiction, such as in Italy,

00:25:14.600 where a hospital has been waiting for him. The Pope himself has called for him to be freed.

00:25:19.400 The hospital in the UK has actually ordered that life support be turned off of Alfie and

00:25:27.760 told his parents he would die within hours. It's been several days. His father has stayed at the

00:25:32.840 hospital, literally giving the child mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to keep him alive. The government

00:25:38.040 hospital will not let him go. Joining us now to talk about this via Skype is Brandon Morse, a writer

00:25:45.960 with Red State. Brandon, did I accurately summarize the facts of this horrific case? I'll admit, 0.53

00:25:52.280 I have tried not to read about it because it makes me so emotional. I actually well up when I think

00:25:58.680 about it. This is being done by the government and we all see it happening in real time. And the child

00:26:06.740 is a prisoner and they won't let him out. I've tried not to over-indulge in this story, to over-read it

00:26:15.140 because I find it so heart-wrenching. Did I get it accurately? Yeah. You did get it accurately,

00:26:19.380 actually. It's hard to actually use hyperbole when it comes to this story because he is actually a

00:26:25.480 prisoner. And the doctors, and this is not hyperbole either, despite the fact that it sounds

00:26:31.360 so horrendous, but this is just how horrendous the story is, the doctors were literally going to

00:26:37.300 torture him to death. He was going to die of his own pain. They figured that that was going to be the

00:26:43.420 more humane thing to do. And so instead of allowing his parents to take him somewhere where

00:26:48.900 he would receive palliative care or an experimental treatment that might help him, they decided that

00:26:53.460 his life was worth ending because A, he's disabled and B, they figured he was on his way out the door 1.00

00:26:59.420 anyway. Why prolong the inevitable, they said. First off, I'd like to know where their crystal ball

00:27:07.420 is kept and how they're going to figure out that this kid's going to die anyway at some point in time.

00:27:12.700 There have been kids that were born that doctors said are absolutely going to die and survived

00:27:17.360 anyway. But even so, let's say that he is destined to die. The fact alone that the parents were not

00:27:23.280 allowed to take him away in order to receive help that would have at least been less painful for him

00:27:29.640 on his way out to at least give his parents some time to come to terms with it, to help them get

00:27:38.140 through the process while he, in great care, passed away peacefully without pain.

00:27:44.800 It is disgusting to me that the British government, in their attempt to make the NHS look infallible,

00:27:52.460 kept this kid there alive, kept this kid off of any kind of help in order to let him starve 0.89

00:27:59.540 and suffocate to death, just so they can be proven right. It's disgusting to me. I hardly have the words. 0.98

00:28:07.160 And I'm having trouble even speaking clearly because I don't want to get too emotional, but this is so

00:28:13.000 appalling to me. Let me show you a tweet from the Pope himself, if we can put that on the screen.

00:28:19.280 Moved by the prayers and immense solidarity shown little Alfie Evans, I renew my appeal that the

00:28:25.400 suffering of his parents may be heard and that their desire to seek new forms of treatment may

00:28:29.480 be granted. I understand that Alfie Evans was given an honorary citizenship or something in Italy so

00:28:36.100 that he could travel there directly. I understand a private airplane was ready for him. The Pope

00:28:41.000 himself is seated and yet the NHS will not release him and yet has taken them off. I mean, they basically

00:28:48.580 said he's going to die in three hours. He's been alive for a couple of days. He's a 23-month-old.

00:28:52.460 For three days.

00:28:54.040 He's just under two years old, this boy. So they're wrong. We know they're wrong. Their

00:29:00.760 diagnosis is obviously wrong. Their predictions are obviously wrong. They thought he would die by now.

00:29:04.740 He hasn't. And yet they will not let him out. I can't believe this is even happening.

00:29:10.860 Well, let's look at why it's happening, though. Kira Davis wrote a very good article on Red State about

00:29:18.160 this, and I couldn't have put it better. Essentially, what's going on right now is that the NHS, and

00:29:22.760 this is what I'm referring back to what I said just earlier, the NHS needs to be infallible.

00:29:27.360 The NHS needs to prove that they are the best when it comes to health care, that the socialized 0.97

00:29:31.800 medicine system actually works. It's proving right now that it does not work, but they need it to work

00:29:37.800 so badly. If Alfie was able to go to Rome to receive that care and for any reason he got better,

00:29:44.540 then the British people would then know that there are massive flaws in their supposedly perfect

00:29:50.420 system, and they would go elsewhere to seek treatment. Now, the problem with socialized

00:29:55.580 health care is that you need people within the system to make it work. There has to be a socialized

00:30:01.660 medicine is a vampire. There needs to be people there for it to feed off of. If more and more people are

00:30:08.040 leaving that system, trying to go find somewhere else to get their care, then the system collapses.

00:30:13.940 The NHS is afraid of Alfie right now. He is their worst nightmare at this moment in time. They're

00:30:20.300 doing everything that they possibly can, not to end his suffering because they're caring. They're

00:30:26.560 trying to end his suffering as fast as possible because the moment that Alfie dies, they can take

00:30:31.640 a breather. It's sick and it's sad, but that's the truth about socialized medicine.

00:30:36.680 We have socialized medicine in Canada as well. I've never heard of a case quite as horrific as this,

00:30:41.900 literally keeping the child a prisoner. I should say that if this were happening in a private home,

00:30:46.940 if it were the parents who were denying their child treatment, denying him even remedial pain

00:30:54.120 relief, they would be arrested for child abuse. They would be prosecuted for dereliction.

00:30:59.840 I find it horrific. I saw a commentator on Twitter. I can't remember who, but I remember the message.

00:31:05.520 He, it seems like a stretch, but actually it clicked with me immediately. It was an American

00:31:10.960 who said, the reason I don't give up my firearms is because if I had a two-year-old boy,

00:31:20.080 I would put him on that plane and if I needed to use my firearm to do it, I would do it.

00:31:27.660 He said it more elegantly than that, but I understood in that moment what he meant.

00:31:32.460 Because imagine being so powerful.

00:31:33.920 Eric Erickson, by the way.

00:31:35.060 Imagine, pardon me?

00:31:37.200 It was Eric Erickson, by the way.

00:31:38.560 Oh, is that who it was? I guess I saw someone else say something similar. The point being,

00:31:45.340 Americans who love the Second Amendment often say it's to protect against tyranny. And, you know,

00:31:51.580 the first American Revolution was fought because of the, was won because of the right to bear arms.

00:31:57.300 And I think in 2018, many of us think, well, if tyranny would come back, it would look like Stalin

00:32:01.960 or it would look like a foreign invasion or look like something out of Red Dawn, that old movie.

00:32:07.520 It would be dressed in a military uniform. It would say fascism, as opposed to the soft creep of

00:32:14.440 tyranny through bureaucracies, through rules, and in this case, even through doctors and nurses.

00:32:19.020 That's what the Second Amendment is about. When some bureaucrat says, you will not take your

00:32:25.620 dying son out of this place just because rule 17 sub three. And that is, that is tyranny.

00:32:35.040 Last word to you.

00:32:35.880 Yes, no, it sounds good.

00:32:36.620 I'm sorry. I'm not even speaking clearly. I'm so mad and sad. Last word to you, Brent.

00:32:42.520 Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. No, you are 100% correct. And that was something

00:32:47.120 that George Carlin himself had said at one point in time that tyranny nowadays wears a

00:32:53.280 smiley face. You know, it is it's the peace and love movement. It's but what C.S. Lewis

00:32:58.480 described him best as the moral busybodies who do everything that they do, who oppress the

00:33:03.000 people at the behest of their own conscience. These people are unlike criminals who might

00:33:08.600 be sated eventually do so because their morality drives them to do it. This is why you see people

00:33:15.080 like people who support socialized medicine take the actions that they do against Alfie.

00:33:20.760 They truly believe that what they're doing is for the good of the people. Obviously, this

00:33:25.480 is not the case at all. This is torturing a baby to death to save face.

00:33:30.280 Yeah. I think when tyranny comes, it won't come from a soldier. It'll come from teachers

00:33:35.960 and nurses and social workers. I think that's what's happening in the United Kingdom now that

00:33:40.280 I think about it. Brandon, thanks so much for your time today. My pleasure. All right. There

00:33:44.520 you have it. Brandon Morris from Red State. What a horrific case. I'm sorry I can barely speak clearly

00:33:49.080 because of it. Stay with us more ahead on The Rebel.

00:33:51.400 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about David Suzuki. Bruce writes,

00:34:08.200 I'm glad there's pushback against Suzuki getting an honorary degree from the U of A. Let's hope

00:34:12.520 money talks. The degree is recalled from that hypocritical activist. Maybe people will also 0.99

00:34:17.720 switch to other institutes of higher learning for their courses. Well, yeah, but you know,

00:34:22.840 I mean, U of A serves Edmonton and other parts of Alberta and there's some foreign students, but

00:34:28.360 people are not going to switch away from studying at U of A to a different university over this.

00:34:35.160 That's not going to happen. And I have to say, I like the fact that finally some donors are showing

00:34:42.200 some self-respect and pulling their money out. But the problem is obviously not just David Suzuki.

00:34:49.560 That's the symptom of the problem. As I mentioned before, I looked at the entire list of people

00:34:55.000 getting honorary degrees. Most of them are just as bad. It's just that Suzuki is particularly

00:35:00.520 inappropriate given the Trans Mountain issue and his anti-oil sands effect. Suzuki is a symptom. The

00:35:06.520 problem is the deep, deep rot. And it's not just at U of A. I should say that a few decades ago,

00:35:13.000 now it's a while back, Dave Suzuki got an honorary degree from the University of Calgary too.

00:35:18.840 Robert writes, Suzuki jets around the world yapping about how we have these great big carbon

00:35:24.280 footprints. Yet he says nothing of his own great big carbon footprint. He's a hypocrite of the highest

00:35:28.760 order. You're right. You know, I remember a couple of years ago at the Sun News Network. I don't 1.00

00:35:33.240 know if you ever saw my video. We did some research. He has four homes. Now I've since discovered he has

00:35:37.560 a fifth one in Australia. I got nothing against the guy being super rich. I mean, he's got to be

00:35:44.760 the 0.1% of 0.1%. Like he's like, like his Vancouver, his main point gray property alone is

00:35:50.760 worth 15 million bucks. I'd say David Suzuki is worth 50 million, 75 million dollars. Like he's a

00:35:59.160 serious player. Got nothing against that. Boy, I wish that were me. I'm just saying, number one,

00:36:05.160 he made that money off the backs of taxpayers. The CBC, the National Film Board, huge speeches to

00:36:09.720 public institutions. And number two, he's the one who's condemning capitalism while he's mastered it.

00:36:16.440 On my interview with Phelan McAleer, Ted writes, thanks for the interview with Phelan. I'm a big

00:36:21.400 fan of his. And this new play of his he is doing is right up his usual alley, namely exposing what the

00:36:27.400 leftist majority in the MSM don't want us to know the ugly truth. In this case, how an oil company

00:36:32.680 was railroaded for 18 billion dollars. I look forward to your report from Frisco. Thank you.

00:36:39.640 I would love to go down there. I mean, I haven't booked that ticket. I mean, it's a bit luxurious

00:36:44.840 to fly to San Francisco just to see a play. Now, I should tell you that this environmentalist

00:36:50.600 lawyer of fortune has not yet collected that verdict of 18 billion or whatever the amount is.

00:36:58.040 He's appealing, appealing, suing. In fact, the case, weirdly, is being heard in Canada. An appeal

00:37:04.200 is being heard here. He's trying to enforce that order. So he hasn't got the money. But boy,

00:37:09.080 he's trying. And it was amazing, the chutzpah that he was filming himself, making a documentary of

00:37:15.480 himself as he was going for the money. And that was a large part of his undoing. Because of course,

00:37:21.000 we saw the outtakes when he, the parts he was going to leave at the cutting room for this lawyer,

00:37:25.880 Donziger. The court commandeered that video and saw the shakedown. Incredible. Yeah, but Felham,

00:37:32.280 Felham does things in movies and in plays that, that almost no one else in the industry would do.

00:37:37.160 And as he told us, he's in isolation because of it. But I guess that helps him think. Well,

00:37:41.720 that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:37:46.040 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - April 27, 2018

Ezra Levant Show： April 26 2018

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