Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show： April 27 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, North Korea's tyrant visits South Korea to talk peace, and the South Koreans

00:00:05.060 credit Donald Trump.

00:00:06.960 It's April 27th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:15.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.460 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.180 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:26.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:00:31.200 bloody right to do so.

00:00:36.660 Well, here's something that's never been seen before.

00:00:39.920 Kim Jong-un, the dictator for life of North Korea, son of a dictator, grandson of a dictator,

00:00:46.480 walking into South Korea by foot, meeting the democratically elected president of the

00:00:52.600 South, Moon Jae-in, to talk peace.

00:00:56.380 They released a joint statement.

00:00:58.220 A lot of talk about mutual cooperation, economic cooperation, transportation, humanitarian relief,

00:01:03.880 which is all another way of saying South Korea will bail out North Korea and try to alleviate

00:01:08.880 the devastation that the dictatorship has done to its own people.

00:01:12.620 They talk of reunification, which makes sense historically, ethnically, geographically.

00:01:17.380 It's a bit like East Germany and West Germany reuniting, except that was done to Germany by 0.88

00:01:22.880 the Allies after the Second World War.

00:01:24.460 They were broken up by other powers.

00:01:26.820 North Korea and South Korea were divided because the North invaded the South, the communists 0.99

00:01:32.020 invaded.

00:01:32.760 And so we need to be skeptical because the North is the hostile party.

00:01:36.820 It's not like East and West Germany.

00:01:38.700 Because as a regular guest on this subject, Gordon Chang and Claudia Rosette always remind us,

00:01:43.200 North Korea is masterful at playing the West and playing South Korea, playing on our hopes, 0.99

00:01:50.020 our hopes for compromise, our hopes for peace.

00:01:52.000 They practice perpetual brinksmanship.

00:01:55.040 They take what they can get through reconciliation and negotiation, and then they firm up their new

00:02:00.980 hard line, fire off a missile or two, and make new demands.

00:02:03.780 It's sort of like battered women's syndrome, as it used to be called, because they know we

00:02:09.020 want the deal so much more than they do.

00:02:11.180 Now, the joint statement contains this provision.

00:02:14.380 Let me quote the translation.

00:02:16.800 South and North Korea confirm the common goal of realizing, through complete denuclearization,

00:02:21.720 a nuclear-free Korean peninsula.

00:02:24.540 All right, I'll believe it when I see it, but I suppose before you do it, you have to agree

00:02:29.080 to do it.

00:02:29.680 So, you know, hope for the best.

00:02:31.920 Who knows?

00:02:32.540 This so far is unprecedented.

00:02:34.460 And Donald Trump is unprecedented.

00:02:36.420 That's why it's happening.

00:02:37.440 Don't take it from me.

00:02:38.200 Take it from the foreign minister of South Korea herself.

00:02:41.180 Clearly, you know, credit goes to President Trump.

00:02:44.520 He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one.

00:02:49.880 Of course it was.

00:02:51.720 Do you think it was Barack Obama or George W. Bush before him or Bill Clinton before him?

00:02:56.980 It's hard to believe now, given the carnage of the Obama regime, I mean, wars and coups

00:03:02.460 everywhere, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, what happened in Crimea, endless perpetual war.

00:03:09.840 It's hard to believe that Obama actually received the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:03:12.580 And he received it immediately after his election, which is funny.

00:03:15.480 Now, he picked up the award eight months after his inauguration.

00:03:18.900 But the Nobel Committee made their decision literally weeks after he was inaugurated.

00:03:23.760 Let me read the first line of their award to him.

00:03:27.560 It's comedy.

00:03:28.200 This is from the Nobel Prize Committee.

00:03:29.440 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded

00:03:36.040 to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy

00:03:41.220 and cooperation between peoples.

00:03:43.240 The committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without

00:03:49.940 nuclear weapons.

00:03:51.880 They actually said that.

00:03:54.120 Oh, my God.

00:03:55.760 Except it didn't work, did it?

00:03:57.020 I mean, none of that happened, did it?

00:03:59.380 North Korea went wild under Obama.

00:04:01.540 Iran is still trying its best to get nukes. 0.63

00:04:04.240 So did Syria, actually, until Israeli jets hit their nuke facility. 0.55

00:04:07.920 But that first line, their Norwegian Nobel Committee.

00:04:10.720 Did you know that unlike the scientific Nobel Prizes, like for chemistry or economics, which

00:04:16.440 are decided by fellow scientists, experts, did you know the Nobel Peace Prize is chosen by

00:04:22.720 a committee of Norwegian parliamentarians?

00:04:24.720 It would be like if a group of liberal MPs in Ottawa would decide who's the peace prize winner

00:04:31.280 in the world.

00:04:31.640 It's 100% political, dressed up as something nonpartisan.

00:04:35.100 Of course it's partisan.

00:04:36.960 Of course it's to score points for Norwegian leftists.

00:04:40.260 So, of course, Donald Trump will not be receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing about more

00:04:45.880 change in North Korea in 15 months as president than the rest of the world did in 15 years,

00:04:51.480 or in the last 60 years, actually.

00:04:54.760 Donald Trump has been thinking about Korea for many years, though.

00:04:58.440 He's been tough but open-minded, ready to fight but hoping to negotiate a deal.

00:05:02.480 That's sort of what he does.

00:05:03.700 Here, listen to Trump almost 20 years ago on the subject.

00:05:06.320 And they are developing nuclear weapons.

00:05:09.640 And they're not doing it because they're having fun doing it.

00:05:11.840 They're doing it for a reason.

00:05:13.300 And wouldn't it be good to sit down and really negotiate something, and ideally negotiate?

00:05:17.580 Now, if that negotiation doesn't work, you better solve the problem now than solve it

00:05:21.920 later, Tim.

00:05:22.460 And you know it, and every politician knows it, and nobody wants to talk about it.

00:05:25.980 I say again, it's too soon to tell if this is real.

00:05:30.860 South Korea wants this so badly.

00:05:32.680 They're probably the worst negotiators in the world right now.

00:05:34.860 They're so thirsty for this.

00:05:36.640 They'd practically do anything for peace, or at least something that looked like peace.

00:05:40.620 Trump is tougher, though.

00:05:41.500 We know that. 0.99

00:05:42.040 But all the fancy people said Trump was a fool, especially when he engaged in his Twitter 0.99

00:05:46.640 diplomacy over the last few months. 0.98

00:05:48.200 But he was showing Kim Jong-un who the real tough guy was.

00:05:52.180 Do you remember some of Trump's tweets, like this one in particular?

00:05:55.340 I mean, Kim Jong-un was boasting about having a nuclear button, and Trump boasted right back,

00:06:00.700 saying, my button is much bigger and more powerful, and my button works.

00:06:05.300 That's what he said.

00:06:06.480 I mean, is that high school locker talk?

00:06:08.240 Is that guy talk?

00:06:09.580 Is that braggadocio?

00:06:10.860 Sure, of course it is.

00:06:11.860 But what do you think works with a reclusive tyrant from the hermit kingdom, as North Korea 0.53

00:06:16.920 is called?

00:06:18.020 Kim Jong-un is so insecure.

00:06:19.840 He has spies spying on his spies.

00:06:22.760 He has literally had his own family members assassinated.

00:06:25.920 He's so paranoid.

00:06:26.880 And yes, his missile program sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

00:06:30.540 He gets by on bravado to his own people and to the world.

00:06:33.680 Certainly, he intimidates South Korea, and with good reason. 1.00

00:06:36.320 But Donald Trump can out-bravado anyone, can't he?

00:06:40.120 Wasn't it obvious that's what he was doing with that tweet?

00:06:42.180 I mean, for the fifth time, let me recommend to you the book, The Art of the Deal, where

00:06:46.620 Trump explicitly describes the reasons for his tactic of making outrageous statements,

00:06:52.620 outrageous demands, hyperbole, shock.

00:06:55.840 Trump writes about that as a negotiating tool.

00:06:59.720 He knows how he sounds.

00:07:01.160 He knows what he's doing. 0.99

00:07:02.080 Only the fools on the left in Hollywood and Washington would think that a successful 0.99

00:07:06.180 man, a billionaire, a president, who beat the odds time and again. 0.99

00:07:09.360 He was really just a grade school troll on Twitter, as opposed to that being part of

00:07:14.080 a larger strategy.

00:07:15.100 His strategy just worked.

00:07:17.380 So far, at least.

00:07:18.980 But Trump has been conducting major military exercises in the region.

00:07:22.960 By the way, if Trump's tweets didn't work, well, his aircraft carriers would.

00:07:27.860 You want to talk about negotiating tactics?

00:07:29.820 Literally this month, Trump deployed thousands of U.S. troops in combination with 300,000 South

00:07:37.340 Korean troops in a training exercise.

00:07:40.240 That's how you negotiate.

00:07:42.260 Barack Obama would send Kim Jong-un a stern letter of apology.

00:07:47.100 That's how he negotiated with them, with Iran, with Vladimir Putin, with anyone.

00:07:51.840 Let me remind you how Trump was derided just a few months ago.

00:07:56.720 You don't need to be reminded, because it hasn't stopped in any other field.

00:08:00.020 Just turn on the TV.

00:08:01.980 Even here in Canada, where the CBC has obviously been instructed to smear Trump daily.

00:08:07.200 When they're not complaining about us here at The Rebel.

00:08:09.480 Here's some media clips.

00:08:10.860 Here's Jeff Bezos' Washington Post. 1.00

00:08:13.100 Laughing and laughing at stupid Donald Trump. 1.00

00:08:20.060 President Trump tweeted, as if that wasn't hilarious enough, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un 1.00

00:08:26.500 just stated that the nuclear button is on his desk at all times.

00:08:33.000 Will someone from his depleted and foodstaff regime please inform him that I, too, have

00:08:39.660 a nuclear button, but it is a much bigger and more powerful one than his.

00:08:45.180 And my button works.

00:08:47.720 Oh, Jesus.

00:08:49.740 I mean, what the hell is this?

00:08:52.360 This is the President of the United States tweeting foreign policy, but also filled with 0.97

00:08:59.500 what we've now come to know as customary sexual innuendo.

00:09:04.380 This is no way to run a foreign policy, and this certainly isn't a way to run American

00:09:11.300 foreign policy.

00:09:13.660 Yeah, they were laughing at him, weren't they?

00:09:16.280 Here's Newsweek.

00:09:17.300 Remember Newsweek magazine?

00:09:18.600 It was a thing in the 90s. 0.96

00:09:20.800 Here they are quoting the Russians saying that Trump's approach to North Korea was foolish.

00:09:27.520 Newsweek and the mainstream media are in a Russia panic these days, a red scare, claiming

00:09:33.000 that Russia is manipulating Trump as some sort of Manchurian president, but they'll stop

00:09:38.540 to quote one of Putin's little helpers if it means they can smear Trump.

00:09:42.020 Yeah, I don't quite get it either, and neither do Newsweek's readers, most of whom have just

00:09:46.660 quit the magazine.

00:09:47.920 Here's Vox. 0.97

00:09:49.020 It's the far-left brainy site that always tells you their reporting explains things to 1.00

00:09:55.040 you, because you're apparently too stupid to understand the facts. 1.00

00:09:57.960 They need to digest the facts for you. 1.00

00:09:59.900 They call it, Trump escalates tensions with North Korea.

00:10:04.480 Really?

00:10:05.360 Here's Time magazine.

00:10:07.100 Trump is the real threat.

00:10:09.560 Of course he is, people.

00:10:11.260 Not just a threat.

00:10:12.360 He's psychologically inappropriate, as president says, the New Yorker.

00:10:16.460 It's all about ego for him.

00:10:18.280 Big button, small president.

00:10:21.880 Of course they preferred Hillary Clinton. 0.88

00:10:23.400 I mean, her calm, rational approach to military affairs, like in Libya.

00:10:31.160 We came, we saw, he died.

00:10:35.300 Did it have anything to do with your visit?

00:10:37.320 No.

00:10:37.660 I'm sure it did.

00:10:39.700 Yeah, that cackling.

00:10:41.240 Who's in control of their emotions?

00:10:44.760 Clinton or Trump?

00:10:45.700 Now, of course, the left didn't just criticize Trump.

00:10:48.860 They wanted to physically censor him.

00:10:53.440 Here's Adweek.

00:10:54.840 Why didn't Twitter block him?

00:10:57.800 Could you imagine if the left-wingers at Twitter had actually blocked Donald Trump from tweeting

00:11:03.800 to Kim Jong-un?

00:11:04.860 Could you imagine if those left-wing kooks in San Francisco who run Twitter had somehow

00:11:09.180 managed to derail this historic deal because they didn't like Trump's style?

00:11:13.280 Now, Hollywood lovies, too.

00:11:15.000 Here's just a few.

00:11:15.920 I mean, there's a hundred.

00:11:16.960 I just picked a few.

00:11:18.040 Alyssa Milano.

00:11:19.180 I always take my foreign policy advice from Alyssa Milano, don't you?

00:11:24.020 Or Mia Farrow. 0.96

00:11:25.280 I mean, anyone who marries Woody Allen.

00:11:27.340 I think that disqualifies their judgment, don't you think?

00:11:31.280 Here's Stephen Colbert.

00:11:32.820 I used to really love watching late-night TV.

00:11:35.000 I remember when I was in college, I loved staying up at night to watch late-night TV for

00:11:39.580 the comedy.

00:11:40.680 I mean, sure, they always tilted liberal, but at least there was still some

00:11:43.200 jokes there, and you couldn't always predict what they were going to do or say.

00:11:46.880 Now, late-night comedy is really just Obama and Clinton talking points with a laugh track.

00:11:53.260 Yeah, I'm not convinced that Kim Jong-un is done yet.

00:11:56.080 His life is deceit and scheming.

00:11:59.040 But what has happened since Trump has become president is new, and it is hopeful.

00:12:06.640 Donald Trump will not win the Nobel Prize, even if this deal is real.

00:12:09.840 They'll give the prize to the two Korean leaders, and that's fine. 0.89

00:12:14.100 Donald Trump is not loved by the media, and he's not loved by that small committee of the

00:12:18.680 Norwegian parliament that chooses the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:12:22.440 But if this deal works, 50 million free South Koreans and 25 million imprisoned North Koreans,

00:12:30.920 those 75 million people will know who broke the 65-year stalemate.

00:12:36.040 And Donald Trump will know it.

00:12:39.200 And so will the left, though they will never admit it, even grudgingly.

00:12:45.140 Stay with us for more.

00:12:46.080 Hey, welcome back.

00:13:03.200 Well, I saw this interesting tweet, and I had never seen the facts put this way.

00:13:07.700 It's from a conservative MP from Saskatchewan, Brad Trost.

00:13:10.860 It says, there are now more illegal asylum claims made in Canada than legal claims.

00:13:18.020 6,373 illegal border jumpers this year alone.

00:13:22.880 And it's only April, three times the amount of illegal crossings in 2017.

00:13:27.700 The government is projecting up to 400 people a day to illegally cross our border this summer.

00:13:35.060 And joining us now via Skype is our friend Brad Trost.

00:13:38.780 Great to see you again.

00:13:39.900 Thanks for taking the time.

00:13:41.260 Those are shocking numbers.

00:13:44.380 But it's shocking to me.

00:13:45.440 I think it's shocking to normal Canadians.

00:13:46.740 But this is not considered shocking to the media party, to the political media establishment, I don't think.

00:13:52.020 No, I think after last year, they sort of anticipated this was going to shoot up.

00:13:57.920 We just had the Liberals say they've got $173 million budgeted so far for this issue this year.

00:14:05.880 And I kind of suspect that's just the start.

00:14:07.900 You know how these things go.

00:14:09.160 Numbers just go up as the spending goes through the year.

00:14:12.240 You know, you mentioned $160-odd million, but that doesn't sound like it's even close to handling things.

00:14:18.720 We've seen Quebec say they're at the breaking point.

00:14:22.420 They're now shipping their illegal border crossers to Ontario. 0.99

00:14:26.180 We see the mayor of Toronto, John Tory, saying we are bursting at the seams.

00:14:31.020 We already have quadruple the number of refugees in our homeless shelters as we had just a year or two ago.

00:14:38.520 So even center-left politicians are starting to say it's just too much.

00:14:46.160 I saw news that a Parti Québécois MNA in Quebec is actually talking about a border fence with the United States.

00:14:55.220 Even people who are on the left are saying it's too much.

00:14:59.140 What's the spirit in Parliament?

00:15:01.200 Because looking at Justin Trudeau, looking at Ahmed Hassan, they don't seem to be blinking one bit. 0.97

00:15:07.880 Yeah, they still have pretty much a sense of arrogance on this one.

00:15:12.040 They've been throwing stuff back to the Conservatives about you guys took away dental benefits from illegal refugees.

00:15:19.560 We don't have anything to learn from you guys. 0.97

00:15:21.680 You're all a bunch of heartless, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals. 1.00

00:15:25.740 So that's sort of been their attitude at this point, sort of a let-them-eat-bake mentality. 0.95

00:15:31.580 We're pushing back.

00:15:32.800 I mean, as I said, they just said $170 million.

00:15:36.460 One of our critics pointed out that $86 million has just been spent on overtime for the various enforcement.

00:15:43.600 That's just the overtime.

00:15:46.900 It doesn't count on social services by the provinces.

00:15:49.500 It doesn't count all sorts of education bills.

00:15:51.560 I mean, essentially what the Americans are doing and what the illegal refugees are doing is they're offloading a problem in the United States, 0.98

00:15:57.280 and they're onloading the problem into Canada, and it's going to get worse.

00:16:02.500 And that's not a good thing for either regular Canadian citizens or for people who have gotten in line the proper way

00:16:09.000 and want to apply to come to Canada in the regular channels.

00:16:13.360 Yeah.

00:16:13.880 You know, it's perplexing to me that the government would proceed in this way, the Liberal government.

00:16:21.080 I mentioned this from time to time.

00:16:24.680 A poll taken by the Liberal government under Trudeau asked Canadians what they thought about the numbers of immigrants to Canada,

00:16:32.940 and only 8% thought the numbers should be increased.

00:16:36.980 Well, they increased it from 250,000 to 300,000, and that was before this open-border fake migrant problem from the States.

00:16:46.040 I can't believe that there's any broad-based support in any province, in any demographic,

00:16:52.620 other than, I suppose, some direct immigration industry types.

00:16:57.740 But even there, you know, I think sober-minded people would say it's broken.

00:17:02.120 You just can't force in tens of thousands of people like this.

00:17:06.060 I think that they're in jeopardy of actually burning up whatever remaining goodwill Canadians have towards immigrants.

00:17:11.860 I think this, what they're doing, being so reckless, it will actually cause a backlash.

00:17:17.440 What do you think?

00:17:19.460 Well, I think that's absolutely true.

00:17:22.520 For your viewers who don't know, my wife's an immigrant from Asia.

00:17:26.280 She's Mongolian.

00:17:27.300 I've got a bunch of family members who are there.

00:17:29.620 They're a lot more hard-line, tough on this, than native-born Canadians. 1.00

00:17:33.920 Because their attitude is, I paid my dues.

00:17:36.600 I stood in line.

00:17:37.820 I waited.

00:17:38.640 I jumped through the hoops.

00:17:39.740 I worked hard to get here, and now these people are cutting in front of the line.

00:17:44.480 So I think one of the things that a lot of viewers who are native-born Canadians should realize,

00:17:49.600 places like Toronto are going to get more upset about this than areas that are so far away.

00:17:54.200 They have no real day-to-day connection with this.

00:17:58.500 But I think that's one of the things that people actually have to understand.

00:18:01.940 Anyone who's gone through the system really resents people cutting to the front.

00:18:05.780 I think you're right to talk about places like Toronto and Vancouver and, to a degree, Montreal.

00:18:11.500 Those are the three cities that absorb the bulk of these migrants.

00:18:15.580 And they're also the places with the longest hospital wait lists, with the food bank shortages.

00:18:22.120 Yeah.

00:18:22.520 I mean, every single social service is being taxed.

00:18:26.240 And the thing is, we're not even choosing who gets to jump to the front of the line.

00:18:30.200 We're not making these choices.

00:18:31.260 These are people who are self-deporting from the United States because they know they won't meet the legal standards.

00:18:38.340 They're either because of criminality or they're just fake or whatever.

00:18:42.280 That's, I think, what's most infuriating.

00:18:44.620 If this was a deliberate selection of people from around the world, a witting, thoughtful decision,

00:18:51.820 we could argue about it, but at least it would be abiding the rule of law.

00:18:56.160 I think what's particularly grating here is the anarchy and that really the biggest scammers and the biggest tricksters get to go to the front of the line.

00:19:08.100 And Trudeau and Hassan, they don't even seem to care.

00:19:10.700 I think they sort of like it.

00:19:12.160 I think they're enjoying this madness.

00:19:15.360 It's in league with his tweet, with Trudeau's tweet last year.

00:19:20.800 Well, here goes to their political strategy.

00:19:23.220 And I think this is all about politics for liberals.

00:19:25.240 They want to make the conservatives look like a bunch of green shade accountants who are just heartless and mean. 0.98

00:19:31.080 And that's what they're going to try to do.

00:19:32.480 So they're going to try to sack us in and say, we don't care about human beings and play the same old dirty tricks they tried.

00:19:38.240 I mean, we saw that back in the 2015 election campaign.

00:19:42.240 I think they're just trying to make the conservatives look like a bunch of meanies.

00:19:46.500 And that's the political strategy behind this.

00:19:49.060 I don't think there's any policy thinking about, you know, what's best for the country, what's fair and what's just.

00:19:55.820 It seems to be all politics all the time.

00:19:58.500 Yeah.

00:19:58.760 Well, I think you're right.

00:19:59.780 I mean, that's, I think, their extremist feminism, gender equality, everything, gender equality in this new peacekeeping mission to Mali, which is going to be, I hate to say it, a human disaster for our men and women in the armed forces. 0.50

00:20:12.380 I think it's all about being so absurd and provocative that anyone who dares speak out against it is racist, sexist, Islamophobic, whatever.

00:20:20.680 That said, I mean, I agree with you.

00:20:23.660 That is their political tactic.

00:20:25.020 But I don't think that that should be a reason not to push back because, you know, putting aside the spin, I think Canadians are mad about the substance.

00:20:33.880 And I think Canadians are getting a little sick of being scolded by the liberals and the media as racist that, misogynist that, when I don't think we are.

00:20:43.240 And as you point out, even other new Canadians like your wife and her family, they don't support this at all.

00:20:49.000 Let me ask you this.

00:20:50.120 And I know that you were a leadership candidate who did very well in the last conservative leadership, but you did not win your nomination and you're in litigation with the party.

00:21:00.300 So I know that you have a certain position about the party.

00:21:03.900 You're still a conservative MP.

00:21:05.940 Is the conservative, and I'm putting those things out there just to disclose to our viewers that you have sort of a special position in the party.

00:21:13.480 You're a conservative who has been at odds with the party.

00:21:18.660 And I'm not making a judgment.

00:21:19.940 I'm just making an observation.

00:21:21.760 Do you think Andrew Scheer, Michelle Rempel, and the rest of the conservative party are fighting this issue vigorously enough?

00:21:30.120 And I know you're a loyal conservative, but you also have some disagreements.

00:21:34.020 Why don't you tell me your candid answer?

00:21:37.400 Candidly, I think the problem for them is there's just so many issues right now to fight the liberals on.

00:21:43.480 I mean, the pipeline issue is something that is absolutely crucial.

00:21:47.020 So the problem is we've got so many issues to deal with, we have to pick and choose.

00:21:51.980 Their latest justice bill is an absolute atrocity.

00:21:56.460 So to be honest, liberals are doing so many bad things, it's tough to choose.

00:22:01.440 So I'm encouraging them to double down and push harder on this one.

00:22:05.260 I think particularly our Quebec caucus also is too.

00:22:08.640 So I don't know.

00:22:10.060 To be honest, I'm a Western Canadian.

00:22:11.540 The pipeline thing is awfully big in Saskatchewan, not quite as big in Alberta.

00:22:15.860 So I kind of favor that one.

00:22:17.520 But I know our Eastern Canadian MPs are saying, hey, this isn't our backyard.

00:22:22.280 And so today, the last couple of days in question period, they've hit it hard.

00:22:26.080 But I think that's a judgment call.

00:22:27.480 And largely, it's going to depend on what they hear from the grassroots.

00:22:30.340 So if you figure this one's a big issue. 1.00

00:22:32.620 But again, the problem is the liberals are doing so many dumb, stupid things. 1.00

00:22:36.820 It's kind of hard to concentrate on just one. 1.00

00:22:38.700 Yeah, it's a target-rich environment.

00:22:40.500 I'm glad to hear your Quebec colleagues are on this issue, because I think Quebec has been 0.98

00:22:45.060 the most frustrated by their wear.

00:22:47.240 First, the Haitians and the Salvadorians, and none of whom are coming from those original 1.00

00:22:51.380 countries.

00:22:51.900 Most of them are just walking up from New York.

00:22:54.260 You can't be a refugee from New York. 1.00

00:22:56.300 And that's, I think, the frustration is the scam there.

00:22:59.340 Well, listen, Brad, I really appreciate you coming on the show and speaking so candidly.

00:23:02.280 And I agree that you are conservative in the bone, and that's how you ran your leadership

00:23:06.060 campaign.

00:23:06.960 Let me ask you what you think your political future is.

00:23:11.140 And I didn't mean to speak negatively a moment ago.

00:23:14.400 I just wanted to disclose to our viewers who might not have been following things in the

00:23:17.980 last year or so with you.

00:23:19.700 But what do you think the political future holds for yourself?

00:23:22.300 You're a pretty young guy.

00:23:23.560 You have a lot of conservative values.

00:23:25.260 You did very well in leadership.

00:23:26.580 What's next?

00:23:27.000 I'll be back someday.

00:23:29.560 For people who don't know, I have a two-and-a-half-month-old, and I have a three-year-old daughter at

00:23:33.160 home.

00:23:33.740 So you know what?

00:23:34.500 I need to take a break.

00:23:35.760 I got some opportunities there.

00:23:39.200 Look, I lost my nomination literally by an inch, frankly, because half of my supporters

00:23:44.600 didn't show up.

00:23:45.780 Had another couple dozen showing up, I'd be there.

00:23:47.960 So this is all about remember to vote, people.

00:23:50.640 Remember to vote.

00:23:51.940 And both of the candidates were more from the left side of the Conservative Party, and they

00:23:55.600 ganged up against me.

00:23:57.000 So it's one of those things.

00:23:58.920 So I'll be back someday.

00:24:01.300 But when you've got kids as young as mine, maybe it's not a bad thing to sit out for six,

00:24:07.120 eight, whatever years.

00:24:09.120 Give me one last word about the new premier of Saskatchewan.

00:24:12.080 We haven't had a chance to have him on the show yet.

00:24:14.360 He looks like he's following in some of the good examples set by Brad Wall, who was certainly

00:24:19.820 one of my favorite premiers in the last decade.

00:24:22.540 Tell me a little bit about the Saskatchewan premier.

00:24:24.880 Do you know him?

00:24:25.640 Have you worked with him in politics?

00:24:27.000 Were you familiar with him from your travels in the province?

00:24:30.700 I don't know him personally as well as I knew two of the other contenders in there.

00:24:34.620 I knew two of them.

00:24:35.900 One very well, one a little bit.

00:24:37.800 And the other two, he's one I'm not too familiar with.

00:24:40.600 But everyone who does know him say he's really a grassroots sort of guy.

00:24:44.400 He sort of had never thought about running to be premier.

00:24:46.900 And this just sort of happened and he stepped up to the plate.

00:24:53.360 So I think you're going to see a guy who's pretty humble and sort of a meat and potatoes, thick to basic issues.

00:25:00.420 But he's going to be unafraid to stand up for his province.

00:25:03.160 That's the reading I get of the guy.

00:25:04.480 Well, that sounds like a perfect fit for Saskatchewan.

00:25:08.180 A little bit humble, a little bit grassroots, solid, reliable, neighborly.

00:25:12.820 That's my favorite Saskatchewan adjective, neighborly.

00:25:16.160 And I think Brad Wall, it was sort of amazing to see a politician leave at the top of his game in Canada.

00:25:22.580 Sometimes politicians stick around too long.

00:25:25.360 So, listen, good luck in Saskatchewan.

00:25:27.220 Good luck in your own plans.

00:25:28.620 I hope to talk to you again.

00:25:29.720 I mean, I know you're not done right now.

00:25:31.860 You still are serving.

00:25:32.640 You will.

00:25:33.920 Yeah.

00:25:34.300 Well, thank you.

00:25:34.860 Can I just say to your viewers, continue to pray for the folks in Humboldt and in Saskatoon.

00:25:41.060 And I know in parts of Alberta who were impacted by the tragedy.

00:25:46.040 I represented Humboldt for 11 years in the House of Commons.

00:25:48.860 And those people are still going to need prayers.

00:25:52.580 Going through the next weeks and, frankly, the next years.

00:25:56.160 So, continue to think of, have them in your thoughts.

00:25:59.740 Thank you very much.

00:26:00.540 That's a very nice note to end on.

00:26:02.080 Well, it's great to talk to you, Brad.

00:26:03.540 And we'll call on you from time to time, I hope, in the months ahead.

00:26:06.600 Because there's so much to talk about.

00:26:07.940 You can be one of our windows into Ottawa, what's going on.

00:26:11.100 Great to talk to you.

00:26:13.000 Have a great one.

00:26:13.800 All right.

00:26:14.220 There you have it.

00:26:14.740 Brad Trost.

00:26:15.480 He's the Conservative MP for Saskatoon University, giving us an update on immigration and other matters

00:26:21.280 in the House of Commons.

00:26:22.940 Stay with us.

00:26:23.900 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:26:36.660 Well, our next guest had a feature interview with John Cardillo.

00:26:40.420 And it was fascinating.

00:26:41.520 We sent it around by email.

00:26:43.280 But for those of you who didn't see it, I am delighted to bring back Matt Schreier.

00:26:48.580 He's many things, including an author of the new book Dawn Prayer, or How to Survive in a Secret Syrian Terrorist Prison,

00:26:55.540 which alludes to his more central identity, I suppose.

00:26:58.920 He was actually captured and held prison by Al-Qaeda.

00:27:02.420 And I think he's the only person, the only Westerner at least, to have been kept prisoner and then escaped.

00:27:09.260 And he joins us now via Skype.

00:27:11.420 Matt Schreier.

00:27:12.300 How are you?

00:27:13.420 What a story.

00:27:15.100 How long have you been free?

00:27:17.980 I've been free for coming up on five years in July.

00:27:22.080 So how long were you in captivity?

00:27:23.720 I was in captivity for seven months, from December 31st, New Year's Eve 2012, until July 29th, 2013.

00:27:34.440 In that time, are you aware, were there any efforts to free you, any commando teams sent by the U.S. military to try and free you?

00:27:45.160 I understand that the U.S. takes very seriously the recovery of captured prisoners who were Americans.

00:27:51.420 Was there an attempt to liberate you?

00:27:54.440 No, no.

00:27:55.080 All the evidence in my case proves the exact opposite.

00:27:58.720 I was labeled an enemy of the state by the FBI.

00:28:01.820 They thought that I joined Al-Qaeda.

00:28:03.980 And they basically exploited the situation to gather as much intelligence as possible.

00:28:08.700 Now, let's go back, because I've certainly jumped ahead.

00:28:11.280 How did you come to be in that god-awful place?

00:28:14.220 And how did you come to be captured?

00:28:17.080 I was photographing the Free Syrian Army in Aleppo.

00:28:21.020 I was in the Carmel-Jebel area, which is like the worst area you could possibly be in right before I was captured.

00:28:27.500 I got the photographs I wanted and decided that it was time to go.

00:28:31.220 And when I was about 45 minutes from the Turkish border on my way home, that's when the cab driver I was with, along with one other person, set me up.

00:28:38.960 And Al-Qaeda grabbed me.

00:28:41.040 I guess the cab driver would have detected that he had a Westerner in the back. 0.90

00:28:47.320 And in that environment, a Westerner equals cash.

00:28:49.920 Is that why you were kidnapped?

00:28:51.500 Was it a hostage situation for money?

00:28:54.020 Was it a PR situation?

00:28:55.960 I mean, there's many reasons why Al-Qaeda or another terrorist group would take a prisoner.

00:29:02.560 What was the reason in your case?

00:29:05.080 Well, I mean, they never made any demand, so I never officially became a hostage.

00:29:09.780 But my former cellmate was eventually released in a deal negotiated by Qatar.

00:29:15.220 And we all know that Qatar, they're the ones the U.S. government goes to when they need them to shell out money to get people home. 0.92

00:29:21.300 So, my guess is they were definitely planning on asking for money.

00:29:26.900 What about your family?

00:29:28.920 Did they know you were going over there in the first place?

00:29:31.580 Had you gone to war zones before?

00:29:33.500 Was this the first time you went to a war zone?

00:29:37.060 This was the second time.

00:29:38.560 I was in Syria about a month before, feeling things out in southern Turkey on the border and northern Jordan at the Zaatari camp.

00:29:46.380 And that's where I made all the connections that I needed, because I'm not going to just wander into a war zone uninvited.

00:29:53.060 So, I made the connections that I needed, and I was invited back, and I accepted.

00:29:58.400 Now, you say that the United States thought you were a terrorist yourself.

00:30:06.180 Had you had any interaction with radical Islam, with international groups?

00:30:12.820 Tell me a bit more about your journalism.

00:30:14.260 Did you come from a formal media organization?

00:30:17.900 I mean, were you just a freelancer going out as an amateur, or were you associated with any established company?

00:30:26.020 No, I was a freelancer, and I had no previous history of extremism or connection to it whatsoever.

00:30:33.880 They knew this because they confiscated my computer, and there was nothing on it that would point to me being a terrorist.

00:30:40.360 I'm a Jewish guy from Long Island.

00:30:42.680 They basically came to this assumption because my identity was stolen by some Canadian jihadis who they brought in to interrogate me,

00:30:50.060 and they took all my personal and financial information, and they went on a shopping spree.

00:30:54.120 And during this time, they paid off my Discover card.

00:30:57.200 And apparently, because my Discover card was paid off, the FBI came to the conclusion it must be me,

00:31:02.500 and that I had joined al-Qaeda, and I was the one making these purchases.

00:31:07.260 It is weird that someone who steals a credit card would pay it off.

00:31:11.160 That is strange, you must admit.

00:31:13.560 Yeah, it is strange, I mean, but I don't think it's a big enough flag to, you know, judge somebody guilty until proven innocent.

00:31:24.000 I mean, it wasn't like it was a huge balance.

00:31:25.880 It was a couple hundred bucks.

00:31:27.580 And when you think about it strategically, it's a smart move if you plan on, you know,

00:31:33.400 using this discredited information for a cell or people that you have in the States.

00:31:37.440 So keeping an active line of credit open makes sense from their point of view.

00:31:42.420 Now, tell me a little bit more about the interrogation that you went under

00:31:46.000 and the information that was taken from you by terrorists.

00:31:51.200 Give our viewers a bit of that.

00:31:55.260 January 31st, exactly, one month after I was taken,

00:31:58.780 I was brought into a room and sat down with three Canadians

00:32:01.440 and the emir of the Katiba holding me, that's a militia group,

00:32:06.020 and one other guy.

00:32:08.080 And for the past month, they'd been trying to get my financial information out of me,

00:32:11.180 but their English wasn't strong enough.

00:32:13.340 So I just kept giving them the runaround.

00:32:14.820 That's why they brought these guys in.

00:32:16.460 And they basically put a piece of paper and a pencil in front of me and said,

00:32:19.120 all right, give us your passwords to all your credit cards online,

00:32:23.560 your social security number, passwords to Facebook, YouTube, your website,

00:32:28.460 everything that you can think of.

00:32:29.840 We want everyone you know, everywhere you've been,

00:32:33.300 everything about yourself, write it down.

00:32:37.240 And that's what I did.

00:32:40.480 Yeah, you had been captive for one month.

00:32:44.600 All these accounts were still active and live.

00:32:47.440 Was your family looking for you?

00:32:49.720 Did anyone, were police involved at this point?

00:32:53.340 Had you been in touch with folks back home who were expecting to hear from you

00:32:57.840 when you were captured on New Year's Eve and you were gone?

00:33:01.780 Were people back home looking for you?

00:33:03.940 Or did they think, oh, Matt's gone away for a long time.

00:33:07.240 It's not unusual to not hear from him for a month.

00:33:11.240 My best friend was, at the time, was my point of contact.

00:33:14.500 I told him if he didn't hear from me for two weeks, something was wrong.

00:33:17.200 But he always had this mentality where, you know, Matt's good at taking care of himself.

00:33:22.200 So he just assumed, whatever, that I was off working.

00:33:26.260 And my mother reported me missing coincidentally on January 31st,

00:33:30.500 the very same day that they took all this financial information.

00:33:33.980 And she reported me missing with the State Department,

00:33:36.680 who claims they never contacted the FBI.

00:33:40.600 They gave my mother the runaround for like two months. 0.53

00:33:43.100 Never referred her to law enforcement until, you know, the very last minute.

00:33:48.940 But still, they didn't tell her which branch of law enforcement to go to.

00:33:53.260 They just said law enforcement.

00:33:54.580 So they didn't tell her to go to the FBI.

00:33:56.900 So the State Department is just as culpable in what the FBI was doing.

00:34:01.280 And just to break it down for your listeners,

00:34:03.820 they were buying laptops and tablets to terrorists.

00:34:06.780 And the FBI was monitoring everything.

00:34:09.780 So that's what they wanted your passwords for.

00:34:12.520 You gave them that password, and these transactions went through.

00:34:17.980 Now, how long did that go on for?

00:34:21.360 How much money did they spend?

00:34:22.740 You mentioned laptops and tablets and things like that.

00:34:27.360 What things did they buy?

00:34:28.880 Where did they send it to?

00:34:30.120 And how much did they spend?

00:34:31.180 And how long did that go on before those credit card companies cut you off?

00:34:37.100 Months.

00:34:37.820 It went on for months.

00:34:39.400 They bought 19 laptops and tablets, I believe.

00:34:43.980 Boots.

00:34:44.940 They practically rebuilt a Mercedes and, you know, cologne, sunglasses, a Kama Sutra guide from iTunes.

00:34:54.160 Hundreds and hundreds of purchases.

00:34:56.180 And this went on for, like I said, months.

00:35:00.560 Over $17,000 was stolen from my personal savings account.

00:35:05.640 Then they moved on to my business account.

00:35:07.660 I'm sorry, over $16,000 from my personal savings.

00:35:09.760 Then they moved on to my business account.

00:35:11.460 And they stole over $1,000 from there.

00:35:13.380 And that's when finally Citibank realized something was wrong because there was an overdraft of $553 in my personal account.

00:35:21.800 And they froze my business account, not the FBI.

00:35:26.560 And here's the catch.

00:35:28.340 The very same day that Citibank froze my account, a message was put into, a note was put into the Citibank system from the FBI.

00:35:37.680 This is on June 6th, saying that if anybody calls about this account being frozen, refer them to the lead case agent.

00:35:44.500 And her phone number is in the system.

00:35:46.060 So, obviously, the FBI was monitoring this whole situation because in real time, as soon as Citibank froze my accounts, they called Citibank and told them to put this message into their system.

00:35:57.060 Got it.

00:35:57.620 So, obviously, they were sort of tracking things.

00:36:00.240 Now, what came about from that?

00:36:02.340 You mentioned there were Canadians who interrogated you.

00:36:05.960 These were Canadians who had come from Canada to Syria to join the terrorist war.

00:36:11.240 Did they identify themselves as Canadian?

00:36:13.180 How did you know they were Canadian?

00:36:17.280 I didn't recognize their accents.

00:36:19.200 They did not identify themselves.

00:36:20.960 They were wearing masks, all three of them.

00:36:24.240 My cellmate grew up in Vermont, right on the border.

00:36:27.980 So, he recognized their accents.

00:36:30.460 And on top of that, after I came home, I started investigating everything that went on and looking at all the receipts.

00:36:36.380 And I noticed that two tablets were mailed to a guy named Henrik Fee in Quebec.

00:36:41.420 And several others were mailed to the border, the Turkish border, the Turkish-Syrian border on the Turkish side.

00:36:50.720 And this guy, Henrik Fee, that's his real name.

00:36:53.580 He has since moved back to Canada.

00:36:55.380 He lives a free man.

00:36:56.580 And he's never even been arrested, from what I've been told.

00:36:59.220 Even though that the RCMP kicked in his door, raided his house, and confiscated some of these devices.

00:37:06.200 Now, I heard about this, and I saw your tweets about it.

00:37:13.080 And, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, you have a photograph of someone who you say you recognized.

00:37:19.620 Is that correct, that you saw someone without a mask over there in Syria, and you see them now back here in Canada?

00:37:26.260 Is that right?

00:37:26.980 No, it's close.

00:37:30.280 That guy is, basically, while I was in captivity, they were forwarding emails to a certain email address.

00:37:37.320 Any emails between myself and editors back home who were my contacts, they were forwarding these emails to somebody,

00:37:44.580 obviously, in an attempt to see if they could get ransom for me from these organizations.

00:37:50.340 Now, I took that email address, and I cut and pasted it into the Facebook search engine.

00:37:55.920 And this guy set up his Facebook account with the exact same email address, so his profile came up, and that's where I saw his picture.

00:38:03.100 And then, after one of them, a different suspect took a selfie with your prime minister and then posted it on his Facebook page,

00:38:11.060 the media got a hold of that, and I told the RCMP that if they don't give me an update, I'm going to start giving interviews.

00:38:16.100 So they invited me up to Montreal to avoid me going public and humiliating Trudeau, which really is not hard.

00:38:22.960 And they did a photo lineup, and in this photo lineup was the exact same person they were forwarding these emails to,

00:38:30.800 whose profile came up in Facebook.

00:38:34.780 All right.

00:38:35.500 Now, I don't want to take up too much time.

00:38:37.280 I mean, I know you had a good discussion with my colleague, John Cardillo.

00:38:42.160 What now?

00:38:43.140 I mean, you managed to escape.

00:38:44.600 Give me one minute on the escape itself, and then I'm just going to ask for an update of how you've been since you've returned these past five years.

00:38:51.160 How did you finally break away?

00:38:53.260 I mean, you know, you're a young guy, so you have some wits about you and some physical strength and endurance, I suppose.

00:39:02.580 But, I mean, being a prisoner by al-Qaeda, that sounds like it would be pretty tough just to break free.

00:39:07.600 Yeah, well, I mean, I was in a basement cell on a base with a wall around it.

00:39:14.780 So, basically what I did was, I don't want to ruin the end of the book, I figured out how to take apart the wires that were welded onto the window holding us in.

00:39:22.800 And it was kind of like a puzzle.

00:39:23.940 So, I stared at the wires because I couldn't pull them off, I couldn't pry them off.

00:39:28.540 So, after I stared at them for a while, I realized, all right, you know, strength isn't going to do this.

00:39:34.140 So, I started thinking of characters in books and movies, and how did they get it done?

00:39:37.840 And I thought of the velociraptors from Jurassic Park, and how when they jumped up at the electrified screen, they never hit the same spot twice.

00:39:44.200 So, I started testing every wire, and by doing that, I figured out that it was held together by tension, and I can just really unweave it and take it apart.

00:39:53.460 And that's how I did it.

00:39:56.780 So, you got out, you got out of the cell, you got out of the prison, and then where did you go?

00:40:02.920 Did you walk to Turkey?

00:40:04.760 How did you get to Freedom?

00:40:07.440 No, Turkey's an hour drive from Aleppo.

00:40:10.280 You know, in that environment, you can't walk it.

00:40:14.200 So, I had to basically weave through the back roads until I was far enough away.

00:40:19.060 I was walking through Aleppo for like 35, 40 minutes.

00:40:22.320 It was the most surreal experience.

00:40:24.660 And then I basically tricked a couple of guys into walking me right up to a Free Syrian Army headquarters, and they took me in.

00:40:32.940 And the next day, bought me a brand new jumpsuit, make me look like one of them.

00:40:37.820 We piled into the backseat of their Jeep Cherokee, the same kind of car I got kidnapped in, believe it or not.

00:40:42.380 And they drove me all the way to the border.

00:40:45.200 Hmm.

00:40:46.160 And you just went across the border, and you phoned home, or you flew home, or what happened then?

00:40:53.140 I went across the border, and about two hours after I got there, the Turks took me right in.

00:40:58.240 They asked a few questions.

00:40:59.780 They were really, really compassionate and great guys.

00:41:03.140 And they let me call the embassy, and the embassy's like, yes, we've been looking for you.

00:41:07.060 We're going to send the consulate to pick you up from Adana.

00:41:10.000 And about two and a half hours later, he arrived and let me call my mother.

00:41:14.700 So, I got on the phone with her.

00:41:17.020 And then they drove me back to Adana, and it took about two days to get all the paperwork, temporary passport, stuff like that together.

00:41:22.560 And after two days, I jumped on a plane to Istanbul, Istanbul to JFK, where my mother and the evil FBI agent, who was doing all this stuff to me, were waiting for me.

00:41:33.120 All right, it's been five years.

00:41:35.040 So, what do you do now?

00:41:36.100 And it sounds like there's not a lot of closure there.

00:41:39.380 The bad guys who got you have not been arrested in North America that we know of.

00:41:45.760 And do we know what's happened to your captors back in Syria?

00:41:49.860 Has that geographic place been reconquered by Syria or others?

00:41:55.940 What's gone on since you got back?

00:41:59.100 Well, since I got home, I mean, I got to be honest with you.

00:42:02.460 The FBI and the RCMP and Crown Prosecutor Linda Carey have caused me a lot more aggravation and pain than anything that happened over there.

00:42:10.580 The FBI has two Canadians they claim in custody for four years who interrogated me, but they won't prosecute them because of all these issues that occurred from the tactics that they used, I believe.

00:42:23.400 And they won't let the Canadians arrest anybody, even though they have an airtight case.

00:42:27.420 I mean, all the evidence, they have actually a tape recording of one of them admitting that he did this while talking on the phone with his girlfriend.

00:42:35.660 They played it for me.

00:42:36.880 And still, you know, Crown Prosecutor Linda Carey, who is in charge of prosecuting these people, will not move forward with the case.

00:42:46.520 And then at the same time, I'm reading online that she's trying to prosecute a couple because they had a pressure cooker and a box of nails in their house and they're Muslims.

00:42:53.100 So this all of this causes me a lot of aggravation and no, I don't have closure and I'm not going to give up.

00:43:00.480 I'm going to keep fighting until these people are held accountable on both sides.

00:43:06.900 As far as what I'm doing now, I'm writing a second book.

00:43:10.160 I do a lot of speaking engagements with the military.

00:43:12.120 That's my real passion in life.

00:43:14.700 And I have some other projects that are starting to gain speed.

00:43:19.060 And hopefully I'll be able to talk about them soon and make some announcements.

00:43:22.840 All right.

00:43:23.560 Well, thanks for taking the time with us today.

00:43:25.420 Very interesting.

00:43:26.280 I appreciate that.

00:43:27.220 And I hope that you do get justice both in North America and back over there.

00:43:33.100 Thanks for being with us.

00:43:34.380 The book we're talking about is called The Dawn Prayer or How to Survive in a Secret Syrian Terrorist Prison.

00:43:39.920 We've been talking to Matt Schreier.

00:43:41.880 Thanks, Matt.

00:43:44.200 All right.

00:43:45.300 Stay with us.

00:43:46.380 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:43:58.380 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the liberals using the Toronto attack as justification to censor their political opponents online.

00:44:05.240 Ron writes, you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.

00:44:08.760 That's a mantra of the left.

00:44:10.200 Oh, you're exactly right.

00:44:12.260 I mean, the left or just big government in general.

00:44:14.980 I mean, this income tax is just temporary until we win World War I.

00:44:19.760 I mean, taxes, regulations.

00:44:22.980 I mean, all the NSA spying.

00:44:25.040 All the loss of privacy since 9-11.

00:44:28.960 I don't think it's made us much safer.

00:44:31.200 Maybe it has.

00:44:32.200 But it's certainly used an excuse an inch to take a mile.

00:44:37.320 On my interview with Brandon Morse about baby Alfie.

00:44:40.440 Tammy writes, thank you for interviewing Brandon Morse.

00:44:43.000 Alfie Evans is being subjected to horrific treatment by the NHS.

00:44:46.780 This child and his parents are being held hostage.

00:44:48.840 This is unacceptable and unconscionable.

00:44:51.000 You know, I don't know what it is.

00:44:51.980 Maybe it's because I have a little one about that age and Alfie looks so cute.

00:44:54.760 And I just find it unfathomable.

00:44:58.020 But that's what tyranny is like.

00:44:59.700 When tyranny comes to the West, it will not come wearing a military uniform.

00:45:03.860 It will not come with a foreign leader wearing some Stalin's mustache and a Russian accent.

00:45:09.400 Tyranny will not come that way.

00:45:10.540 Tyranny will come through the hospitals, through the schools, through social workers, 0.85

00:45:14.920 through, I don't know, some child and family services activist.

00:45:19.960 That's how tyranny will come.

00:45:22.400 And it's come to the UK.

00:45:24.400 There's just no other way about it.

00:45:25.600 I've told you that before.

00:45:26.340 Every time I go to the UK, I come back depressed that it is not what I hoped it was,

00:45:30.920 not what I thought it was, not what it once was, even recently.

00:45:35.020 Susan writes, this is what happens when you let bureaucrats run the health care system. 1.00

00:45:38.600 Watch for it coming here, too.

00:45:41.080 Oh, you're so right.

00:45:42.540 You're so right.

00:45:43.760 I mean, if you control people's health,

00:45:47.820 you can theoretically control their bodies.

00:45:51.640 I mean, that's the theory and the excuse we hear,

00:45:53.500 well, we have government-run health care.

00:45:54.900 So we have a public stake in you.

00:45:56.880 We have the right to tell you what to do or not do

00:45:59.480 because we have socialized medicine.

00:46:01.500 By definition, it gives the government a stake in your own life, your own body.

00:46:06.940 Yeah, I don't think we're as far gone as the UK,

00:46:09.120 but I think we're only five years behind them.

00:46:12.620 That's the show for today.

00:46:13.700 That's the show for this week.

00:46:15.480 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:46:18.540 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:20.920 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - April 27, 2018

Ezra Levant Show： April 27 2018

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