Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show June 04 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Tommy Robinson was put in jail in the UK, but take a look at who they're letting

00:00:04.720 out of jail. It's June 4th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:14.140 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:17.920 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:21.620 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:24.600 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my

00:00:29.620 bloody right to do so.

00:00:35.240 It's been 10 days since Tommy Robinson, our former UK reporter and a leading critic of

00:00:40.260 Islamic extremism, it's been 10 days since he was arrested outside a courthouse in Leeds

00:00:44.420 and thrown in prison for 13 months. I'm not Tommy's boss anymore, so I can't make the legal

00:00:48.980 decisions for him, and it's not my place. But suffice it to say, I'm shocked by the sentence,

00:00:53.080 and I'm also deeply frustrated that his sentence has not yet been appealed.

00:00:57.260 It's not my decision to make, though. By the way, we had our big conference in Toronto on

00:01:02.220 Saturday. It's called The Rebel Live. For those of you who were there, thanks for spending your

00:01:06.960 day with us. For those of you who weren't, let me show you a video of a surprise guest

00:01:11.400 we had. I'll show it to you in a few moments. He's with the office of Lord Pearson of Orenic,

00:01:17.880 a UKIP member of the House of Lords, just an FYI, on who Lord Pearson is.

00:01:24.060 If we accept the views of our lead police officer for child protection, of Rotherham's MP,

00:01:31.360 and of the recent Jay and Quilliam reports, we seem to be looking at millions of rapes

00:01:37.160 of white and Sikh girls by Muslim men, only 222 of whom have been convicted since 2005.

00:01:47.040 So, my Lords, will the Government ask our Muslim leaders whether the perpetrators can claim 0.64

00:01:52.460 that their behaviour is sanctioned in the Koran, and to issue a fatwa against it?

00:01:58.660 First, and second, my Lords, will the Government encourage a national debate about the various

00:02:06.420 interpretations of Islam? Can we talk about Islam without being accused of hate crime?

00:02:13.800 Lord Pearson is eminently reasonable. Can we even talk about it? What a question.

00:02:18.760 In fact, Lord Pearson and Tommy Robinson had a lengthy on-camera conversation just a few weeks ago.

00:02:24.780 Well, Lord Pearson himself did not attend our conference on Saturday, but one of his senior

00:02:29.980 staff did. It was a surprise to me. I wasn't expecting conference guests flying in from as

00:02:34.380 far away as the United Kingdom. I will play for you his speech in a moment. His name is Peter

00:02:40.020 McIlvenna, his aide to Lord Pearson. You can watch the entire conference as a premium subscriber,

00:02:45.200 all the Rebel Live proceedings on Saturday. We were unable to live stream it on Saturday because we

00:02:49.840 couldn't get a powerful enough internet connection at the venue, but it will be on our website shortly.

00:02:54.440 But right after this monologue, I will show you the speech by Lord Pearson's aide who flew into

00:02:59.460 Toronto. All right. There's news, though. The first piece of news is that there is no news.

00:03:07.860 Tommy's still in jail, 13-month prison term just for reporting outside a courthouse. That has not

00:03:11.940 changed in the last 10 days. And saying nothing about the trial inside, other than reading the names of

00:03:19.780 the accused. Names that were published everywhere. That's why Tommy was put in jail. Here's the BBC

00:03:25.140 website that shows the names. So Tommy's in jail. But look at who's getting out of jail. This guy,

00:03:32.080 Anjum Chowdhury, extremist, calls for the overthrow of democracy in the United Kingdom to be replaced by

00:03:39.700 Sharia law, says the Queen should be forced to wear a hijab, says Westminster should be turned into a mosque.

00:03:47.260 Chowdhury was jailed for inciting support for ISIS, the terrorist group. Yeah, no kidding.

00:03:52.940 But that was so long ago. I'm sure he's reformed. I mean, that was way, way back in September of 2016.

00:04:01.240 So, yeah, he's been in prison for more than a year. And, I mean, talk about barbaric treatment.

00:04:09.400 We're almost as bad as ISIS itself. A year and a half. I kid you not. Chowdhury will be released

00:04:13.100 imminently. Canada isn't the only place that needs truth in sentencing. Chowdhury got a five-year

00:04:19.360 prison term. He's served, what, a third of it? And he'll be out in a flash. Tommy is still in jail.

00:04:24.820 That's a fitting metaphor, isn't it? Tommy in jail, Chowdhury out. But as you can see,

00:04:28.760 that article about Anjum Chowdhury being released, he's just one of 193 convicted terrorists in the

00:04:36.360 UK, half of whom are about to be released back onto the streets of the UK. Let me read a little

00:04:41.260 bit. Here's the bullet points in the mail online. Police are facing a surge in number of convicted

00:04:46.840 terrorists released from prison. Over 40% of sentences handed down over 10 years will be spent

00:04:51.560 by end of year. 80 of 193 prison terms issued for terror offenses. That's a typo there between 2007

00:04:58.300 and 2016 will run out. But true number of releases could be even higher as prisoners are eligible to

00:05:04.420 be freed halfway through their sentences. Seriously, what's even the point? What's the point? According

00:05:11.700 to British authorities, there are 23,000, not 23, 23,000 jihadis on the loose in the UK.

00:05:22.300 Just to be clear, those are the people who the Brits say are ready to commit terrorist violence.

00:05:26.900 That's not even including anyone who would just want to see the results. Burk is on every woman, 0.99

00:05:32.780 Sharia law of the land, but who wouldn't necessarily kill for these 23,000. Well, 1.00

00:05:37.960 here's how the prestigious Times newspaper puts it.

00:05:41.660 About 3,000 people from the total group are judged to pose a threat and are under investigation or

00:05:47.560 active monitoring in 500 operations being run by police and intelligence services. The 20,000 others

00:05:54.360 have featured in previous inquiries and are categorized as posing a residual risk. Oh,

00:06:00.240 that's comforting. But better keep that Tommy Robinson locked up. I'm not kidding. Can you imagine

00:06:05.140 how many people it takes to track a suspected terrorist around the clock? The answer is actually

00:06:10.200 more than 20. You have to cover all the shifts of the day, 24 hours a day and weekends, and you have to

00:06:17.180 have a boss managing it, and you need electronic coverage, and phones tapped, and emails, and

00:06:22.260 translators. More than 20 people to watch a single jihadist. They've got 23,000 that they will admit

00:06:29.960 to. They're only trying to track 3,000 of the worst of the worst. But put that Tommy Robinson in jail

00:06:36.020 because he criticized some accused rapists. But look at where Sadik Khan, the Muslim mayor of London, 0.57

00:06:41.660 is putting his focus and his budget and his manpower. Here's a tweet from the UK police,

00:06:48.500 the Metropolitan Police in London. We have 900-plus specialist officers across London

00:06:54.180 dedicated to investigating all hate crime. That's a lot of cops looking for mean tweets or unfunny

00:07:00.900 Facebook posts. But what's their standard? Well, for Islamophobia, of course, that's really all they do,

00:07:06.860 hunt down people worried about terrorism and worried about rape gangs. The British police have

00:07:11.500 decided it's easier to hunt down people talking about terrorism or rape gangs than to hunt down

00:07:16.260 people doing terrorism or rape gangs. And of course, the police are actually right. It is easier that

00:07:21.660 way. It doesn't solve the underlying problem. But hey, they don't have Tommy Robinson making a fuss on

00:07:26.040 YouTube these days, do they? But look at this. This is an official report. It's a few years old now.

00:07:33.060 And that's part of my point here. An official report from the Metropolitan Police. That's what London's

00:07:38.400 police are called. By the way, look at the bottom left of the page. Their motto is total policing.

00:07:43.940 Yeah, I'm not sure that's a great motto. Totalitarianism, total policing. You don't want to

00:07:49.920 say things like a police state would say. You just don't unless you're being a little too honest.

00:07:56.040 So this was a study, as you can see on the cover there, of, quote, hate crimes against London's

00:08:00.140 Muslim communities, ending in 2012. So this was published in 2013. So it's five years old, but that's

00:08:06.780 helpful. It shows what's been happening for years, even before Sadiq Khan was the mayor.

00:08:12.700 I want to turn to the page in which this police manual defines Islamophobia. It's numbered page

00:08:19.460 six at the bottom. You can find this online. There are a number of terms that are used throughout this

00:08:24.360 report. They require a brief comment, Islamophobia and Islamophobic or anti-Muslim hate crime,

00:08:31.460 Islamophobia. Okay, so we're going to define these words. Okay, this is from the police guide.

00:08:37.600 They have eight different definitions. Let me read. The eight components of Islamophobia are,

00:08:44.960 number one, Islam is seen as a monolithic block, static and unresponsive to change. 0.57

00:08:51.140 So, so that's Islamophobia, according to the police. If you think Islam is unresponsive to

00:08:59.160 change, like as in maybe they still make women in the UK dress like they're in the Saudi desert

00:09:05.580 in the seventh century. So it's Islamophobic if you don't think Islam is dynamic and modern,

00:09:12.920 you know, like female genital mutilation or polygamy. I'll read more. This is from the police 0.97

00:09:17.580 definition. Islam is seen as separate and other. It does not have values in common with other cultures,

00:09:24.160 is not affected by them, and does not influence them. I mean, we're all humans, so we all have

00:09:29.260 some values in common, but the police here are saying that it is Islamophobic of you if you merely

00:09:35.340 think that Islam, again, we're talking about the religion, mind you, not individual people who are

00:09:39.320 called Muslims, but we're talking about the doctrine, the ideology, the philosophy, the book called the

00:09:43.280 Koran. You're a hater, you're an Islamophobe if you don't say, yeah, we really have a lot in common

00:09:48.420 with Islam. They're just like us. How they treat infidels, how they commit jihad, how they treat 1.00

00:09:54.260 women or gays. I'll keep going through the list. This is the list the police are using. Islam is seen 0.99

00:09:59.660 as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist. Hang on, so the 0.99

00:10:05.540 police are just flat out saying that if someone believes the West is the best, they're a bigot?

00:10:12.520 Isn't that why Muslims come to the West? Because they think it's better? Are they bigoted? If someone

00:10:18.620 says that Islam is sexist, are they really committing Islamophobia? Have these cops ever even read the

00:10:25.480 Koran? Multiple wives, Mohammed himself marrying a girl at age six and having sex with her at age nine. 0.98

00:10:31.500 Again, I'm not condemning any individual person called a Muslim, but this police guy says that 0.99

00:10:35.920 if you believe Islam, the doctrine, the ideology, is sexist, then you are a bigot, you hate criminal. 0.81

00:10:41.580 No, no, I'm not, Gov. No, I'm not. A bit more. Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, 0.97

00:10:48.860 supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations. Yeah, that's a whole concept that 0.91

00:10:54.740 we call the jihad. Actually, we don't call it that. You can tell by the Arabic nature of that word.

00:10:58.820 That's what they call it. The Koran actually divides the world into two halves, Dar al-Islam 1.00

00:11:04.100 and Dar al-Kharb, the house of submission. That's what Islam means. And the house of war. I didn't 0.94

00:11:08.740 make that up. Mohammed did. Here's some more. It's Islamophobic if Islam is seen as a political 0.97

00:11:16.560 ideology and is used for political or military advantage. Well, it is. Have you read the book?

00:11:23.360 And I like this one. Criticisms made of the West by Islam are rejected out of hand. So

00:11:28.400 you're not allowed to criticize Islam. But you must accept Islamic criticisms of the West. 0.96

00:11:35.640 You bigot. You better admit that you're wrong. Let me read one more. Hostility towards Islam is 0.89

00:11:43.100 used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream

00:11:48.180 society. Okay, now, only after the previous six definitions do we see it moving from the ideology

00:11:54.140 to individual people. But of course, we judge people on their actions and beliefs, what they

00:11:58.460 say and what they do. If they are guided by an extreme ideology and talk and act that way,

00:12:02.660 yeah, we have the right to judge them as we would judge anyone else. You see, you're a hate criminal 0.99

00:12:08.340 now, though, if you believe in judging people by what they believe. And finally, anti-Muslim hostility 0.98

00:12:16.260 is seen as natural or normal. If you believe that, you're a bigot. So they've switched from Islam to 0.99

00:12:22.360 Muslim, which is better. But you know what? When you have terrorist attacks again and again,

00:12:26.340 and when leading Muslim groups and Muslim leaders do not condemn cause for Sharia law, but rather

00:12:31.720 promote them, do not condemn terrorism without the word but, yeah, it is actually a normal human

00:12:38.660 reaction to say, this isn't safe. I'm scared. Maybe I'm a little phobic.

00:12:43.680 Like, we want to differentiate between individual people. We want to treat people as individuals

00:12:51.180 in charge of their own lives. Something the Quran isn't particularly good at doing. But even if we 0.82

00:12:56.520 get it wrong, even if we engage in unfair thinking about Islam or about Muslims, how on earth is that

00:13:03.180 a matter for police? Or 900 police? Well, like I say, it's easier to throw you in jail or even Tommy

00:13:11.220 Robinson in jail than to tackle 23,000 jihadis, isn't it? Stay with us for more.

00:13:17.920 Hey, welcome back. Normally we have two guest interviews every day. We'll have Mark Morano in

00:13:39.160 a moment. But first, I want to play for you one of the speeches from this Saturday's The Rebel Live.

00:13:43.760 It was a surprise speech. It wasn't on the agenda. It was one of the staffers from Lord Pearson's

00:13:48.620 office in the UK who flew to our conference. And actually, I didn't even know he was coming.

00:13:53.320 He introduced himself, showed who he was, and said, could he say a few words about Tommy's case?

00:13:58.060 And I said, well, absolutely. So let me now show you a presentation by a staffer for Lord Pearson

00:14:05.840 named Peter McElvenna. Without further ado, I'm going to run this in the place of an interview.

00:14:11.060 I didn't have a chance to interview him, but here's his speech. Take a look.

00:14:14.520 It was wonderful.

00:14:16.100 Vesra had asked me to come and speak to give you an understanding that there are some voices

00:14:20.380 supporting him in the establishment. Lord Pearson has been speaking on Islam for many years

00:14:26.340 and on the demographics, on the Sharia law system, on the financial, but actually on the case of

00:14:33.620 grooming gangs. And that's where their paths cross. So Tommy had been kept on Lord Pearson's email

00:14:38.100 lists for quite a while. He came and interviewed Lord Pearson probably six weeks ago, and Lord Pearson

00:14:46.600 faced a lot of criticism. His criticism was by inviting Tommy into the Palace of Westminster.

00:14:51.900 He was endangering Parliament. That's exactly what he was told. So the issue, the danger is not from

00:14:59.180 is Islamic terrorists. It is actually from this guy, Tommy Robinson, a Jack the Lad, a guy from the 0.90

00:15:06.280 streets in Luton, and he's the one causing issues by highlighting these. But when Lord Pearson had him

00:15:13.520 for lunch, he actually then had him for lunch a second time, and he asked for the central table in

00:15:20.120 the Pierce dining room to be booked. This is how much he wanted to snub those around him. And Lord Pearson

00:15:25.480 is an establishment figure like no other. But he realized this issue. So he asked for a central table,

00:15:30.580 couldn't get it, but then started giving Tommy a tour of Parliament, inviting, introducing him to all

00:15:37.480 different individuals. So we met the ex-archbishop of Canterbury, George Kerry, who actually understands

00:15:44.140 the issues of Islam. He invited him to Norman Tebbet, who was one of the Chancellor of the Exchequers,

00:15:50.520 the finance ministers under John Major. And he was walking up and down the corridors.

00:15:54.440 You must meet Tommy, my good friend Tommy. And these people didn't know what to do. They were

00:15:59.080 thinking, we recognize his face. He shouldn't be here. What's happening? So good there wasn't a camera

00:16:04.540 there. But so Lord Pearson has been highlighting this. He's written to the Home Secretary and said

00:16:09.820 that Lord Pearson will take the Home Secretary to court if Tommy is hurt, injured, or if he dies in prison.

00:16:16.360 Because the last time Tommy was in prison, he got beaten to very close to the point of death. And the

00:16:27.400 concern is this is what will happen again. As Ezra said, many parts of the British prisons are run by

00:16:33.200 Muslim groups. So please do remember there are things happening. And certainly from my point of view,

00:16:39.740 we've been involved in UKIP, Lord Pearson being a former leader of UKIP, and Jared Batten, the leader

00:16:44.660 of UKIP, has been involved in this. And this has to become a political issue. You have to turn it from

00:16:49.960 a street movement into a political issue, which actually causes fear amongst Westminster. Because

00:16:56.240 until that happens, politicians are scared about losing their seats. That's it. They don't care about 0.67

00:17:01.020 anything else. So we have to turn this into political action, vote to the ballot box, and we

00:17:06.520 have to change our government. So that's where we are at the moment. As I said, Tommy's been in jail

00:17:11.280 now four hours, five hours from being arrested to being in jail. So Lord Pearson has got more questions

00:17:18.080 down to ask what exactly has happened. He not only emailed the Home Secretary, he phoned him, left a

00:17:23.700 voicemail, and sent him a text to make sure he got it. So we cannot say he did not get that. And that was

00:17:29.140 published far and wide. So there are some voices. And there are many people who say, we've got an

00:17:34.980 issue with Tommy, maybe as a character, he's got a past, but actually, the issues he's raising are

00:17:39.720 vital issues. And we have to understand that. So really, we want the media to look past maybe the

00:17:46.340 Jack the Lad figure from a working class background that they look down and sneer upon, and see these

00:17:51.600 issues of free speech, the freedom of the media, and freedom to talk about these rape gangs, which 0.98

00:17:57.140 a Labour MP from the socialist side has said up to one million girls could have been raped. That was

00:18:02.640 three years ago in the Daily Mirror newspaper. She gave the figure of one million. So this is a

00:18:07.080 massive issue with court cases happened in 55 towns across the UK. This is a huge issue. And if we do

00:18:13.540 not have people like Tommy raising this, then we are disappearing fast as a nation. So I think that's

00:18:20.760 the Lord Ed Ezra. Thank you. Thank you. That's Peter McElvenna of the Office of Lord Pearson. Stay with us.

00:18:28.560 More ahead after the break.

00:18:29.400 Well, a lot of guys don't remember their anniversaries. You know, it's just not a guy

00:18:45.220 thing. But a lot of guys are celebrating two anniversaries. One is the 500-day anniversary

00:18:52.020 of Donald Trump being sworn in as the U.S. President and the one-year anniversary of Donald

00:18:59.780 Trump pulling out of the U.N. global warming scheme. I love his comment that he was elected

00:19:06.900 to represent Pittsburgh, not Paris. Remember that line? I was elected to represent

00:19:12.880 the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. Well, it's been one year and joining me now to celebrate

00:19:22.260 the anniversary that we both remember almost as well as we remember our own wedding anniversaries

00:19:28.740 is my friend Mark Morano, the boss of Climate Depot. Mark, I'm kidding around. Of course, we remember

00:19:34.000 all of our anniversaries and our wives' birthdays and our kids' birthdays. Of course we do. But we just

00:19:40.400 happened to also celebrate the anniversaries of Trump. He pulled America out of the U.N. global

00:19:46.600 warming agreement and nothing happened. The earth didn't, the sky didn't fall, something that

00:19:52.440 everyone was afraid to even mention. He just did it and nothing bad happened.

00:19:58.320 No, in fact, the climate activists are pointing out that since Trump pulled out, Nicaragua and North

00:20:05.540 Korea have joined the pack, which is great. It makes America look that much stronger. 0.99

00:20:11.780 And as I noted at the time, this was a, I don't think anyone could actually appreciate Ezra. I mean,

00:20:17.700 we can, but I don't think the general public appreciates and the media appreciates how big of a

00:20:23.700 fricking deal, I said fricking deal, this was for a U.S. president to pull out of this treaty.

00:20:29.940 Up until the last minute, Donald Trump had Mitt Romney, the former GOP nominee, lobbying him

00:20:36.180 hard to stay in the treaty. He had people like John McCain and even Bob Dole and George W. Bush,

00:20:43.700 all people who would have stayed in the treaty. All previous Republican presidents or nominees would

00:20:49.060 not have had the courage to do what Donald Trump did. He stood up to the face of the United Nations,

00:20:55.060 the other world leaders, the American media, academia. And he stood strong and he stood proud.

00:21:02.020 And he just said, no deal. And we're pulling out. And it was the withdrawal heard around the world.

00:21:09.380 It still stuns me that he had the courage to do it. And since that time, it's just been fantastic

00:21:14.900 because the United States and it was just crowned this past week to be the most successful country

00:21:20.260 in reducing their emissions. And we're not even part of the U.N. Paris agreement.

00:21:23.860 You know, that was going to be my next point, Mark, is that in Canada, our irritating global

00:21:30.660 warming minister, Catherine McKenna is her name. And Justin Trudeau, they have this one line. It's

00:21:36.740 a message track. It's so, it's really all they say, the economy and the environment go together.

00:21:42.260 You can't, I mean, it's just, and they mean nothing. They do nothing. And actually,

00:21:45.540 both are failing in Canada, or at least the economy is failing in Canada. But the same week that Donald

00:21:51.300 Trump is, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reveals the lowest unemployment in, what, a generation?

00:21:58.100 Is it 3.8%? Black unemployment rate, lowest in history. Hispanic unemployment rate,

00:22:04.180 last month was the lowest in history. So the U.S. economy, I've seen predictions of 4.7%

00:22:10.980 GDP growth, unheard of for decades. So the U.S. economy has never been stronger. But unpack that,

00:22:18.340 what you just said. U.S. carbon dioxide emissions, which I do not regard as pollution,

00:22:23.700 but the crazies on the left do. At the same time as the U.S. economy is stronger than ever,

00:22:31.220 U.S. emissions are at 25-year lows. Explain how that works. I know, but I want to hear you say it.

00:22:37.540 Well, what's amazing is technology, technology, technology. Not too long ago at Climate Depot,

00:22:42.500 I posted an article. I was watching the old Johnny Carson classics. And it was a Paul Ehrlich, 1980 or

00:22:49.220 1981, predicting that by the end of the 1980s, we'd be running out of oil, that the world was going to

00:22:56.020 be done with oil. Well, it turns out that energy abundance and technology have been the answer.

00:23:03.300 The United States has turned to good old fracking and natural gas. Coal has dramatically dropped just

00:23:10.020 since 2011, Ezra. And fracking is now up to approaching 40% of U.S. energy sector. Well,

00:23:17.540 coal is dwindling down into the 20s. And it's partially done, a very small,

00:23:22.340 a smaller amount is done due to the regulations of the Obama era and basically sending a signal to

00:23:27.300 coal. But the biggest reason was that technology of fracking, horizontal drilling came in and has

00:23:33.380 revolutionized American energy, thus lowering emissions. And that has been one of the biggest

00:23:40.100 driving factors. We haven't done it through the bureaucracy. We haven't done it because of all the

00:23:45.940 mandates. We've done it because of technology and because of abundance and because of ingenuity.

00:23:51.060 And it's been phenomenal to watch. We're outperforming all of Europe who's turning their noses at us

00:23:56.580 because we're not part of this UN Paris agreement. Yeah, it's so odd. I mean, fracking, which has been

00:24:02.100 done literally millions of times since it was perfected in the 1940s, is the reason the United States is

00:24:11.220 moving to clean natural gas. I mean, I'm a pro coal guy myself, but I acknowledge that natural gas not

00:24:17.140 only has a lower carbon footprint, which I don't care about, but it burns cleaner in terms of sulfur,

00:24:22.260 particulate pollution, things like that, which I do care about. So it was Halliburton and fracking

00:24:27.620 and Dick Cheney, who used to be their president, their executive. That's what's cut American emissions

00:24:33.540 to a 25-year low. So weird, Mark, that fracking, this miracle technology that not only unlocks free

00:24:41.140 energy but reduces its pollution footprint, has been banned across eastern Canada, in Quebec and

00:24:47.860 the Maritimes, those are the liberal provinces, in France, in so many parts of Europe. They're banning the

00:24:55.620 one way to actually reduce emissions, and those European countries and even Japan are building coal-fired

00:25:01.620 power plants while they shake their finger at Trump. It's like Alice in Wonderland, a bizarro world.

00:25:09.940 It is. In fact, in the United States, we have states like New York where they've banned fracking

00:25:13.780 and won't allow it, and neighboring states, of course, are booming and profiting from it. Yes,

00:25:18.820 and what doesn't even further make sense when you unpack this, Ezra, and I detail this in my book,

00:25:23.460 The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change, is the Sierra Club took money from the natural gas

00:25:28.980 industry equivalent of, I think it was $26 million. And this was money that they were going to use to

00:25:36.020 denigrate coal. So even the fracking industry used the Greens to lobby against coal for their own

00:25:41.940 benefit, but the Greens took the money. So they know that fracking is beneficial. You'd think they

00:25:47.540 would be out there promoting more. Of course, the Sierra Club taking the money got a huge amount of flack,

00:25:52.020 and I point that out in the book from the other environmentalists. They tried to keep it secret

00:25:55.540 for a while for taking fossil fuel money. But it's an incredible story of success in our emissions.

00:26:04.260 And with this, as we go forward, the United States is now trying to continue this unraveling

00:26:12.180 of these Obama era regulations. Right now, Trump's battling the whole CAFE corporate average fuel

00:26:18.100 economy standards. And interestingly enough, he has to battle the auto industry as well as

00:26:23.140 states like California and the environmentalists. So everything's turned on its head here. We're the

00:26:28.340 success story, but they're still trying to keep all of these regulations and even crank them down. 0.98

00:26:33.300 And of course, we still have the worry of who the next president will be, whether Trump serves four

00:26:38.020 or eight, because even the next Republican is likely to be a milquetoast Republican on these issues

00:26:45.060 and not push back like Donald Trump. Yeah. Well, Mark, as I alluded to a moment ago,

00:26:49.380 I knew the answer for why global warming gases, greenhouse gases had fallen so much. It's because

00:26:54.900 of fracking made natural gas so cheap and plentiful. I mean, states like Pennsylvania,

00:26:59.300 you never think of Pennsylvania as a natural gas place. I mean, it did have oil for a long time,

00:27:03.620 but it's amazing. There's actually pretty much as much natural gas being fracked there as in Texas.

00:27:08.820 I love Pennsylvania. I've been there so many times for that. So I knew that. But you told me something

00:27:13.940 today, and I know we've kept you for almost 15 minutes already, but just give me one more minute

00:27:18.660 on this. You told me something that I hadn't heard before. I knew that that Donald Trump was going

00:27:23.620 after that fuel economy standards that made it so difficult for automakers. It was an environmental

00:27:29.620 extremist move. It was really anti-industrial. And it was one of Trump's promises. He said,

00:27:33.780 if you bring your factories back to America, bring them back from Mexico, I'll do you a favor. I'll cut 1.00

00:27:39.940 your taxes along with everyone else. And I'll get rid of these fuel economy standards. I really like

00:27:44.420 that approach. He's not saying I'll give you a bailout or a grant. That would be the Canadian way

00:27:48.820 or the Obama way. He's saying, I'm not going to give you money, but I'll cut your taxes and I'll cut

00:27:53.700 this regulation and you can earn your own money. I really like that approach. But you just said

00:27:59.140 that he's fighting the auto industry over that. Are you saying that the auto industry wants

00:28:04.500 those environmental regulations? Give me just one or two minutes on that.

00:28:09.860 Yeah, this is a very bizarre thing. There's actually a letter signed by a coalition of the

00:28:13.540 major auto, including Ford and other companies, basically saying, we are okay with these standards.

00:28:18.900 We do not essentially don't support this. And the reasons are, number one, they want to appear

00:28:23.940 green to the public. But the larger thing they try to trumpet up is this regulatory certainty. And

00:28:30.020 the idea, and there's some validity to this and the extent that Trump can come in and

00:28:35.380 reduce these standards. Right now, the current standard is going to go to 54,

00:28:39.140 I think 54.5 miles per gallon by 2022. Now that is to statutorily the end of the American SUV,

00:28:45.780 unless you do all kinds of accounting tricks, like make a bunch of cars no one wants that are

00:28:50.340 little death traps. And then you put them out as fleet sales at reduced rates. So you can still have,

00:28:55.940 there'll be a lot of high numbers of those cars, and then you can still build your SUVs.

00:28:59.540 But it gets harder and harder as these numbers that were negotiated in the Obama era and mandated

00:29:04.820 keep coming. So they're going to take away, if Trump does nothing, you're taking away efficiency,

00:29:11.380 safety, performance, and size of American cars. That's essentially all it's doing. It's a war on

00:29:17.860 American cars, particularly a war on American SUVs. So what's happened now is the auto industry is

00:29:24.260 essentially many of them are fighting back. Some elements of the auto industry are standing up with

00:29:28.020 Trump and want these reversed. But it all comes down to California, Ezra. The best argument for

00:29:33.300 California to secede from the United States is in the CAFE standards, these fuel economy standards.

00:29:39.140 California for years has been terrorizing the auto industry saying, we are going to set our own

00:29:44.180 standard and the rest of the countries are going to have to follow because automakers can't make two

00:29:48.660 different standards for one for California, one for the rest of the country. And now Massachusetts is

00:29:52.980 joined and a bunch of other states are joining them, the very liberal Northeast states. And so

00:29:57.620 what's happened here is that Donald Trump has to go to court to take away California's authority to set

00:30:04.980 their own standard. They want a national standard. That way they can't, California can't terrorize the

00:30:09.700 rest of the nation and the auto industry. So there's a lot of court battles. It's kind of like the UN

00:30:14.260 Paris Agreement. We're not really out of it till 2020 and there's going to be court battles and there's all

00:30:19.380 kinds of ways we can get back in and especially with the next election. It's just, it's undoing

00:30:24.740 the regulatory state is a nightmare. That's why Ronald Reagan said the closest thing to eternal life

00:30:29.060 on earth is, is, uh, you know, a regulation and that's what we're facing here. Uh, but it's,

00:30:34.740 it's a huge battle and you have your corporate capitulators in the auto industry who don't want to have

00:30:40.900 this fight because they want the regulatory certainty. But the problem is, um, if Trump can win,

00:30:47.220 the good news is if Trump can win this, we can break the back of California to set it.

00:30:51.540 Then the automakers will be free. Uh, the problem though is if democratic president in the future

00:30:56.580 could then reinstate these. So it's, it's just, you know, there is something to be said for that

00:31:01.620 yin yang of regulations. They don't like it and understandably, but at some point they need to

00:31:05.940 stand up for themselves and that this is their moment. They can actually fight back. And again,

00:31:11.700 fuel economy standards, ration those vehicles. It's going to have performance size and safety

00:31:18.820 are, are what are going to suffer here. Ultimately, you know, it's almost like the

00:31:22.580 auto industry has Stockholm syndrome. They actually crave, uh, the certainty of the prison cell they were

00:31:28.980 in, uh, in a way, uh, in a manner of speaking, um, and the certainty of three square meals in their

00:31:36.980 prison cell, essentially. Yeah, it's absolutely true. And they don't have confidence that, you

00:31:41.540 know, there's going to be long drawn out court battles. They don't know what to do next. So

00:31:44.740 a lot of this is the lawyers talking and the regulators and well, you know, you mentioned

00:31:50.340 Mitt Romney, if I recall, his father used to be the governor of Michigan. And before that,

00:31:54.740 his father was the president, correct me if I'm wrong, of the American Motors Corporation

00:31:58.900 is so, tell me if I'm wrong there, but if Mitt Romney's dad was not only the governor

00:32:04.500 of the auto state, but the former president of an automaker, and yet his son Mitt is calling for

00:32:12.500 this global warming baloney, it shows you just how colonized the minds of industrialists are.

00:32:21.220 And I, I, again, I think that so many industries and so many people don't even deserve the good

00:32:28.020 things that Trump is doing for them. And they're even fighting against it.

00:32:31.700 It's incredible. But I tell you, it's more good news from my point of view,

00:32:36.740 every month. Great to see you again, Mark. And please bring us more good news

00:32:40.260 as you keep doing these days. It's the environmental sector. It's just one of the

00:32:44.820 bright spots in the Trump administration to me. It is. And by the way, just one note,

00:32:49.780 Mitt Romney came out recently and said that he would have basically been doing all the same

00:32:53.940 things Trump's been doing had he been elected. And I almost gagged. I don't see how he would not

00:32:58.500 have pulled out of the UN Paris agreement. He would not have taken a deregulatory agenda at

00:33:02.340 the EPA. Like there's just no way Mitt Romney is capable of standing up to the American media and

00:33:07.220 and being break himself from the establishment. So that that almost literally gagged when I heard

00:33:11.940 that. I mean, I can't believe that. Some people believe Mitt Romney would have actually done it,

00:33:15.940 but there's no way Mitt Romney is not Donald Trump. And I mean that in a good way.

00:33:19.700 Yeah. Well, I hope some of Trump's courage rubs off on our Canadian conservatives. What's disappointing to

00:33:24.980 me is how often Canadian conservatives want to show that they're classy. And so they disparage

00:33:30.340 Trump just for aesthetic reasons. Oh, he's too American. He's too brash. He's too rude. He's too

00:33:35.780 vulgar. Ignoring. Oh, by the way, all of which are valid criticisms of Trump, but that's sort of who

00:33:42.580 he is. And you got to get over to get past that. But I have no problem acknowledging that, but he's still

00:33:47.860 a great president. Yeah. I'm not looking for a boyfriend or a babysitter or a, you know,

00:33:53.540 a surrogate dad or something. I'm not looking for him to adopt me. I'm looking for him to run

00:33:57.540 the country and I'm looking for a Canadian. I mean, yeah, it would be nice if he had all the

00:34:02.020 finest exquisite manners, but that's not as important to me as a guy who's bringing in

00:34:06.500 the lowest unemployment rate in a generation. Marcus, great to talk with you. Thanks so much

00:34:10.500 for joining us. Look forward to our next update with you soon. Thank you. All right. There you have

00:34:16.180 it. Mark Morano. He's the boss of climate depot.com. By the way, I recommend an article

00:34:20.340 that is posted on climate depot.com. It's written by Charles Moore of the Daily Telegraph.

00:34:25.860 And it's an interesting view on Donald Trump because of course it's written from the United

00:34:30.500 Kingdom with a bit of a British perspective on Trump. And it's called Donald Trump has the courage

00:34:36.820 and wit to look at green hysteria and say no deal. It's a great read. I recommend you find it. You can

00:34:43.620 get that at climate depot.com. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:34:58.180 Hey, welcome back. Your viewer feedback on my monologue Friday about the trade war between

00:35:02.740 Canada and the United States. Robert writes, I must admit that it was particularly galling to hear

00:35:07.720 Junior referring to the sacrifices of Canadian soldiers as a reason Trump should cut Canada

00:35:12.420 some slack. Please, Junior, tell us, are these the same soldiers who want more than the government

00:35:17.140 can afford? Talk about a completely cynical argument by a politician who despises the Canadian military

00:35:22.100 and who has no appreciation for what they have achieved. You are exactly right. It's particularly

00:35:27.400 odious knowing he actually doesn't care about soldiers. And I'm sorry, that's just a fact. When

00:35:32.580 you refuse them pensions, when you sue them and fight them in court, but rush to give free cash and

00:35:37.540 public apologies to terrorists like Omer Conner, I'm sorry, you cannot then call upon the valor and

00:35:42.140 the sacrifice of those same soldiers in your trade war. What's that got to do with anything?

00:35:48.300 It's pretty simple. Justin Trudeau wants to talk about feminism and gender quotas, and Donald Trump

00:35:53.760 wants to talk about steel. They're not even having a conversation. It's obviously going to fall apart.

00:35:57.700 Sorry, you can't really dragoon vets and the fallen to your side. It was pretty gross. 0.85

00:36:05.520 James writes, I am waiting for CBC or CTV or The Globe or The Star to bring up the fact that Canada

00:36:12.660 has a 240% import tariff on U.S. dairy products that Trudeau-la-doo fully supports. Do you think 0.63

00:36:20.120 I will be waiting long? Well, we did a show before on the bizarre decision by Justin Trudeau to,

00:36:25.400 out of the blue, bring in new tariffs on, I forget, it's a very kind of dairy product. I think it's like

00:36:31.900 dried milk or something. I don't understand it. But why would you pick a fight with places like

00:36:38.040 Wisconsin? You know, they love their dairy there. Why would you pick a fight with those key

00:36:43.100 battleground states that Donald Trump just won? Why would you pick a fight at all on trade? Why

00:36:48.360 would you pick a fight with those states? And why would you do so-so in such an unprovoked manner

00:36:52.860 unless maybe you really do want to scupper the NAFTA negotiations? I think it's quite possible.

00:36:58.820 I think, and I alluded to this in my book, Trumping Trudeau, that I wrote a year ago,

00:37:02.460 more than a year ago. I think Justin Trudeau would like to run against Trump in his 2019 election.

00:37:10.100 Demonize Trump. I mean, the media certainly would go along with it. I wonder if Canadians would be

00:37:14.100 fooled. Liza writes, it's hard to blame Trump when all our representatives can do is cry and whine

00:37:20.220 and insult him. Spoiled is a good word for our government. Spoiled, entitled, unrealistic.

00:37:24.740 Frankly, I'm glad to see that playing social justice warrior games and spreading fairy dust,

00:37:28.600 is falling flat with the real world. Thanks to Trudeau, we are a laughingstock.

00:37:33.500 I'm of two minds as well on this, Liza. On the one hand, it's refreshing to see that not everyone

00:37:39.660 is convinced by the baloney that Justin Trudeau uses to such great effect with the fawning media.

00:37:46.860 I mean, when Chrystia Freeland cried at that Belgian trade negotiation a year or so ago,

00:37:51.980 like she literally cried and said, I thought we were the good guys.

00:37:57.300 That's embarrassing. And the media loved it because it showed how tenderhearted she was.

00:38:01.780 But Donald Trump is an art of the deal, America firster. And if you're, if the best you got

00:38:07.220 is a journalist, that's what Chrystia Freeland was, a journalist and an author who turns on the 0.97

00:38:13.620 waterworks when she doesn't get her way, Trump's going to devour her. Now, the trouble is,

00:38:18.080 he's not actually devouring her. He's devouring us. I want a successful trade agreement with the

00:38:24.920 United States for all of our benefit. For steelworkers, I have no connection to steelworkers

00:38:30.780 other than they're Canadian. And I want them to keep going. I like having an auto industry in Canada.

00:38:34.920 But Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland are so over their heads, I don't think it's going to happen.

00:38:40.600 Well, that's our show for today. For those of you who joined us on Saturday at the Rebel Live,

00:38:47.680 I hope you had a good time. I really did. It was so interesting. We had speakers from so many

00:38:53.300 different backgrounds. Lindsay Shepard, the free speech student from Laurier was there. Our friend

00:38:59.000 Joe Warmington was there from the Toronto Sun. Katie Hopkins came all the way into Townford. That was

00:39:03.460 exciting. Sheila Gunn-Reed came in from the West. A great event overall. And I know a lot of people said

00:39:09.980 by email, hey, let's do one out West. And maybe that is our next plan. But we're going to take

00:39:14.880 a day off before we start hatching new Rebel Live schemes. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us

00:39:20.460 here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - June 05, 2018

Ezra Levant Show June 04 2018

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