Ezra Levant Show June 05 2018
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Summary
Miss America will no longer judge contestants based on their appearance. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? And what will happen to the pageant now that there's no longer a swimsuit competition? Plus, Ezra explains why he doesn't think Miss America is sexist.
Transcript
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Tonight, Miss America will no longer judge contestants based on their appearance.
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It's June 5th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it,
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I don't know. I don't think it's a thing anymore.
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It reminds me of the phrase in the book of Matthew in the Bible
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It's nothing. It's like water that's not wet. That's just not a thing.
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I'm talking about the announcement that Miss America will no longer have a swimsuit competition
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not just that. They won't be judged on appearance at all.
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It's not just the swimsuits. It's physical appearance.
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Here's Gretchen Carlson, who runs Miss America, with the announcement.
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We are no longer a pageant. We are a competition.
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We will no longer judge our candidates on their outward physical appearance.
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But I've got a chance now, since looks are out.
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So, here's a tweet by the Miss America pageant with a very short video in it.
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Maybe people will tune into a beauty pageant without the beauty part.
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Or maybe that puff of smoke is just a lot of investors' money just evaporating.
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Maybe we could have the Indy 500 without all that driving part.
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Now, the Miss America bosses say it's not a pageant at all anymore.
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I think all this is now is Miss America is just another talent show, but only for women.
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I mean, will prettiness even be a factor anymore?
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If not, then what exactly is this besides a weirdly named talent show?
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I don't think Miss America is sexist, by the way.
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I tried to find viewer demographics for its audience, and I wasn't successful.
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But my instinct, my hunch, is that far more women watch Miss America than men do.
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The show is often up against football games on other channels, so I'm guessing men watch
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It's my observation that men like to look at attractive women, of course, but women really
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like to look at attractive women and rate them and measure them as judges and judge them
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as a pageant tends to do, either in a mean way or an admiring way.
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I mean, who do you think follows Kim Kardashian on Twitter?
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I mean, if men want to look at Kim Kardashian, they're not going to watch her reality show.
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Maybe they'll watch a video of her in a different form.
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In fact, for decades, Miss America has been about empowering young women, about role models
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for young women, and prizes, including scholarships, ways for women to improve their lives, an example,
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a system, a pageant system, from the grassroots up, city by city, state by state, and then Miss
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And everyone in the system practices a talent and poise and looking good, which usually means
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making the most of what God gives you, which usually includes being fit physically, which
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I mean, rocking a swimsuit could be done in a sexual way, or it could be the ultimate proof
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that you're mentally and physically at your best.
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It's partly genetics, of course, but it's a large part effort and discipline, isn't it?
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There are a lot of jokes you can make about a beauty pageant without the beauty part.
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I mean, maybe Miss America itself still hasn't reformed enough.
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The Miss part implies you have to be young and unmarried.
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Why can't a grandma participate, especially since it's not about stereotyping beauty anymore?
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I'm not joking so much anymore, of course, not in the age of transgenderism.
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Well, there are a lot of women's competitions that are now being cracked open.
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Here's a women's competition that is allowing a man to join.
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It's mixed martial arts, and that guy says he's a gal now, and you're a racist, sexist, Islamophobe,
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So they let him fight as a her, and he obviously wins because he's a guy punching the girls.
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Here's a guy who just keeps on winning as a girl.
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Well, it's not that much fun for the girls to compete against boys so much for women's sports.
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But really, this is all just part of a war on standards, on objective standards.
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I'm not talking about, you know, being a little bit fat.
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I'm not talking about not being mean to fat people.
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I mean lying, faking it, that being super fat is super attractive.
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Just like a man cutting off his genitals is not healthy.
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Transgender men have a suicide attempt rate of over 50%.
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It's part of the war on facts, the war on the truth.
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Sorry, social justice warriors destroying objective standards of beauty is not a liberating rebellion.
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The reason why we love Michelangelo's statue called David is because it is objectively beautiful art.
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It is not even a matter of opinion that that is one of the finest statues ever carved.
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I suppose you could say you have a different taste, but then you're the one who's off, not Michelangelo.
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Purple hair, piercings, that is not attractive.
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That is not the standard of beauty that elevates and inspires and transcends our corporeal state.
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The war against Miss America is part of the war against feminine women and masculine men.
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I believe that the Democrats and the liberal media consciously use the take a knee fiasco to undermine the NFL, to destroy it,
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because the NFL is one of the last bastions of masculine men and strong strength left in the American popular culture.
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Speed, strength, creativity, aggression, masculine traits is a place where those are rewarded.
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It's not a place for tokenism and subjectivity.
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It's not a place where you talk about toxic masculinity.
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No, the left hates the NFL for its masculinity and loves to undermine it from the inside,
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using this useful idiot who loves to wear his Marxist clothing while be paid millions.
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Look, it's a reason why the military is being undermined, too, why Justin Trudeau insists that our military missions be gender balanced,
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as he said for his proposed mission to Mali, Africa, perhaps the most dangerous place in the world for soldiers right now.
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Liberal governments across the West are doing this weird thing.
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They're insisting that the military wear high heels in a bizarre walk-a-mile-in-her-shoes campaign.
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There are, look, you want to have competitions?
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There are already competitions, reality TV shows, talent shows out there.
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There are cooking shows and singing shows and dancing shows.
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Miss America was an attempt to fuse civic virtues with personal discipline, with aesthetics, including making yourself attractive.
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But that's probably racist these days, so away it goes.
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I think this new Miss America is going to flop, and I look forward to seeing what replaces it.
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I think men want to be men, and women want to be women, and they want to know how to do it.
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I think there's a crisis right now, in that so many of us just don't know how to be men or women,
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Miss America was not perfect, but it showed the way, a way, and it was pretty well at that.
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I think just like the Boy Scouts showed boys how to be boys, that's gone now, too.
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The Boy Scouts, they had girl guides, but that wasn't enough for the social justice warriors.
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I mean, seriously, would you tune in to watch it?
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Well, I think you can sum up the theory of libertarianism, or even conservative libertarianism,
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as the right to be left alone, left alone by the government, and even left alone by your neighbor.
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So what about the case of a cake baker who has Christian beliefs,
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and a gay wedding couple, a same-sex couple, insists on a special gay wedding cake with a gay message written on it?
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Is it fair for the baker to say, no, I don't want to do that, or is that discrimination?
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and the United States Supreme Court has finally weighed in on it, and it wasn't close.
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Joining us now via Skype to talk about this is Andrew Klavan.
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Every day on the Daily Wire, it's a podcast Monday to Thursday.
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Can you help me bring out some facts of this case?
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Because I think it's important, the facts of the case.
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This wasn't a shop turning away, like a barber shop turning away a gay person.
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This was a very specific request for the Christian baker to engage in an expressive act,
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Yeah, it's a really disturbing case once you get into the details of it,
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especially for someone like me, who is truly a libertarian on this subject.
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I've worked with all and known and befriended a lot of gay people through my life
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He considers his baking, his cake making an art.
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He's got like a palette as part of his logo on the shop.
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And they came in, a gay couple came in and asked for a wedding cake for their wedding.
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He had previously turned down other things that violated his Christian beliefs,
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like Halloween cakes, things with, you know, kind of pornographic or adult elements.
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Hey, you know, I serve anybody here, he said, but I don't serve every occasion.
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You're welcome to buy anything that's in the shop, but I can't specifically make a cake,
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use my artistic expression to make a cake for your wedding,
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because that would violate my conscience, which seems to me as narrow, you know,
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Just a little bit of goodwill, a little bit of leaving other people alone,
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I would have, you know, done a lot for the tenor of the country.
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They complain to the Colorado Civil Rights Commission.
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The commission not only rules against him, but this is his religion,
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says this is the kind of, you know, use of religion that led to the Holocaust.
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They, you know, they accuse him of all kinds of, yeah, oh, it was amazing.
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Because that's what the Holocaust was really about.
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And don't you know, today, today it's cakes, and tomorrow it's a different kind of oven.
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I shouldn't make jokes, but what a horrific comparison.
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I didn't even know there was something called the Colorado Human Rights Commission.
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Completely, completely unelected commission on which there have to be members
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who are part of the apparently excluded classes like LGBT people and stuff like this.
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Previously, Ezra, I mean, once you hear the details of this case,
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Where previously, these guys had allowed that if you came in and wanted a cake that was against gay marriage,
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the baker was, it was valid for the baker to say, no, I can't do that.
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And unfortunately, even though it sounds like a good decision because it's seven to two,
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although how it could not have been nine, oh, I don't know, but it's seven to two.
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All they said was the commission had been so bigoted that Holocaust remark had been so over the top
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that the guy had been treated unfairly, essentially.
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They did not rule on the bigger issue of free speech rights, freedom of religion rights, First Amendment rights, basically.
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And basically, I mean, they left open the possibility that if this commission had just been a little bit more sneaky,
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if they had just hidden their hatred of Christianity, they might have gotten away with it.
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And that is, I find this extraordinarily disturbing because it's one thing, look, we all have rights to speak.
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You know, talking about Nazis, Nazis in America have the right to speak.
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But to force somebody to agree with you, to force somebody to celebrate what you are and what you believe,
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that seems to me so, such a violation of free speech rights that I personally find it disturbing that two justices,
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg, what's her name, the RPG, they call her.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sotomayor, they basically ruled against this guy anyway,
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They said, well, that doesn't mean that he should be allowed to be discriminatory.
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There's another case coming down the pike that I'm not as familiar with about a florist.
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She also, who wouldn't make a bouquet, the same kind of thing, wouldn't make a bouquet for a friend of hers,
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a guy she liked very much, but said, look, this is my religion.
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I can't celebrate a wedding that I don't believe should be taking place.
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And like I said, I've been friends with gay people both personally and politically all my life.
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I have nothing, you know, I don't want to pass any judgments on them.
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I don't want to tell them or anyone else how they should live their lives.
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It's not what I'm about, but this is a true bullying, fascistic, anti-American move to search out these guys
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and basically say we're going to run you out of business unless you violate your conscience.
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It's really disturbing and incredibly disturbing to me that two justices voted against him.
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Yeah, and I can only imagine not just the legal fees, but the stress and the hundreds of hours of this baker's life
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I mean, when, of course, the couple in question could have just gone down a few streets over to any other baker,
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It was in Windsor, Ontario, which is just across the river from Detroit.
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And my first thought when you were talking there was,
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I wonder if Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sotomayor, the other hard left judge who was appointed in her case by Barack Obama,
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I wonder if the roles were reversed if it was a gay bakery that was being commanded to do a pro-Christian,
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I don't know, icing, if they would have ruled the same way.
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I really think that those two judges would have flipped.
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And maybe you've heard of it because it got some coverage in the States.
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In this case, we have a gay activist couple and we have a Christian baker.
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There's a case in Windsor, Ontario, where there is a female aesthetics salon where they do waxing of lady parts.
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It's a place that guys should never enter into because it's a place of women's mystery.
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And us fellows don't need to know anything about it.
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Windsor, like Detroit, has a fairly large Muslim population.
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And one of the female estheticians at this Windsor place is a Muslim woman.
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And then one day, a pre-op transsexual, a fella with all his fella parts,
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goes there and says, I want a lady wax, even though he's not a lady.
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He says, I'm, and this Muslim woman, who's the esthetician, says,
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I'm sorry, I don't touch fellas other than my husband that's part of my religion.
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And this thing is going to the Ontario Human Rights Commission, $50,000 at stake.
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My question to you, Andrew, is who do you think is going to win?
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Who has the higher poker hand in politically correct poker?
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A Muslim woman who doesn't want to do a pretend female waxing on a fella
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or a transgender guy who hasn't had his twig and berries cut off yet, demanding service.
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Like, tell me that's not a hell of a case for Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Sotomayor.
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That's something that would make their heads explode.
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I have to admit it made me chuckle a little because I always love it when leftist special interests clash
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But, you know, the very fact that the case is coming up, it points to so many things.
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One of the things that it points to is that the worst possible people, the smallest minds,
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the nastiest, the least able to leave other people alone, are bringing these cases to court.
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So these cases are coming before committees and courts when they could just be so easily avoided
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with just the slightest bit of goodwill, just the slightest bit of saying, oh, you know,
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You know, I mean, how hard is that to say to somebody?
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I mean, we all should treat each other that way.
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And it is the outgrowth of this leftist philosophy of grievance and victimhood that somehow this
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It means that you don't have to pay attention to their rights, but they have to pay attention
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It's like when I get heckled when I give speeches and these people come in and they shout things
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out as if their incredible victimhood gives them some right to intrude on other people's
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lives, it's so small, it's so bullying, it's so mean that it just it's just horrible to
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I mean, it's the problem with the left is that they're so dishonest and so intellectually
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So their their ideas are so intellectually corrupt that they're perfectly able to say,
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like the Colorado Commission said, well, in this case, we'll go this way.
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And in this case, we'll go that way because it's not really a principle.
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It's just, you know, who who is more of a victim in this moment in our imaginations?
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You know, it's it's just the whole thing is despicable.
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The only real principle is free speech and freedom of action and freedom of choice and
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And if we stick to those principles, all this victimhood and agree and grievance mongering
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and picking on other people and bullying would go away.
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Yeah, you know, I think in the case of this Windsor transgender case, I think the fella
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is so craving of attention that he wants litigation.
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He he probably sought out the most egregious situation possible for two reasons.
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First of all, if he really is accepted at a female esthetician, that's the ultimate proof
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And I and I think like these this cake, same sex couple, of course, he could have just gone
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I think I think that they're trying to politicize and litigate every aspect of personal life.
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And I think that's the war the left has on the culture to turn every damn thing into a
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political moment, a Marxist moment, and to turn us all into identity, culture, warriors.
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It just it's completely not surprising any of these things to me.
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Last word to you, Andrew, I think we're going to see a lot more of these.
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And it's so disturbing to me, who really, as I say, is a libertarian who just wants people
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You know, as long as they're not hurting me or anybody around them, you know, it doesn't
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mean a thing to me how people live, who they sleep with, who they love.
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You know, I don't lose a minute's sleep over it.
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But how can we not how can we leave them alone if they're not going to leave us alone, if they're
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And if they're coming after our most important rights, our right to think freely,
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speak freely, worship freely, those are so much more important than who you sleep with.
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It's so much more important than your your sexual life.
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You know, how can we leave them alone if they're not going to leave us alone?
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Andrew Klavan, always great to have a moment of your time.
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He's the host of The Andrew Klavan Show on The Daily Wire.
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It's a podcast that you can catch Monday to Thursday.
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That's why a vote for the Liberal Party can mean so much.
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The more Liberal MPPs that we send to Queen's Park on June 7th, the less likely it becomes
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that either Doug Ford or the NDP will be able to form a majority government.
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By voting Liberal, you can keep the next government, Conservative or NDP, from acting too extremely
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By voting Liberal, you can keep the next government, Conservative or NDP, accountable to you.
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By voting Liberal, you can keep Doug Ford and the NDP from having a blank check.
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A vote for the Liberal Party is a vote to keep the next government in check.
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A vote for the Liberal Party is your best bet to make sure that the next government is
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And the next government is thereby held to account for all voters.
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She is the premier for, I guess, a couple more days, basically admitting that they don't
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Every single poll for weeks has shown the Liberals in third place.
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And I guess she's just admitting the obvious and taking the air out of the balloon that
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It shows a drop of, I don't know, humility that she's not even going to pretend to win.
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I'm not sure how compelling it is to say vote for us because we're not going to win.
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But joining us now to talk about this weirdness is our friend David Menzies.
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It's not often that a loser admits they're going to lose before they lose.
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Well, first of all, Ezra, anytime I see Kathleen Wynne at a playground, the first thing I'm
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Secondly, I was completely shocked by that announcement.
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And it was not that it's unprecedented, but it didn't work back in 2001 when the NDP Premier
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of BC, DeSange, said more or less the same thing.
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And the results of that election were the Liberals, 77 seats, and the NDP party, well, let's put
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You could have a caucus meeting in a Mazda Miata, which is a two-seater for those who aren't
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So, first of all, I don't think it's going to work.
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Thirdly, I think an unintentional beneficiary of this, Ezra, is the PC party.
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If people are on the cusp of, hmm, Liberal, NDP, NDP, Liberal, and this makes them go, okay,
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Wynne, I don't like, and if she's promising to step aside, I'm going to go back to Liberal.
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And that means a loss of a few seats, even a few seats, because they're saying it's a
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Maybe the PCs go right up the middle and get that majority.
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So, I'll vote Liberal because I sort of feel comfy with them.
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If I want to stop Ford, I don't have two choices now.
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So, you could see a coalescing of the anybody but Ford vote behind the NDP.
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I don't know which way of those is going to cut.
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I ultimately think that most people have already made up their mind.
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I don't think, despite her announcement, Ezra, and despite some other things in the news,
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that the Liberals are even close to forming the official opposition, even.
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Whether, like I said, I really see the PCs going up the middle.
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And now the question is, it seems more and more that this has to be a majority mandate
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for Doug Ford because now the Whisper campaign that Andrea Horwath originally dismissed is
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now warming to about the idea of a coalition with her and the Liberal government.
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So, this is going to be crucially important on Thursday.
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Doug Ford's late brother, Rob Ford, who I think in many ways was more beloved than Doug.
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But I think that he was so authentic and his problems were so authentic and the way he was
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I think there was a lot of love for Rob because he suffered in front of us.
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And news comes that Rob Ford's widow, Renata, on behalf of her kids, Doug Ford's nephews,
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his nephew, are suing Doug Ford and the family company called Deco Labels, claiming that he
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The timing of this lawsuit is just days before the election.
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Either way, it's sort of sad that the family's having a quarrel.
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Kevin Donovan, the investigative reporter for the Star, broke it.
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We should say absolutely nothing has been proven in a court of law.
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Having said that, my heart was breaking for those two kids because when you think of it,
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Ezra, what they're faced with is on one side, if you listen to one of the sides, their mother
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Then on the flip side, the mother is saying, your two uncles, Randy and Doug, are basically
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embezzlers, you know, draining a company like Deco Dry, you know, spending your legacy.
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I also feel that if these are unfounded allegations, the potential damage to Deco, the family businesses,
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if I'm a supplier, you know, I'm running to the credit, you know, department of Deco and
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making sure my bills are paid up because, you know, business, even though it's a private
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And if what she's saying, you know, has a whiff of sincerity to it, that could be a self-fulfilling
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Now, I don't want to talk about the business side or even the family side.
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My instinct is people say, well, this is a family feud.
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It may be embarrassing, but what's that got to do with this election?
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I don't know if any Ford supporters are going to say, ah, I'm now going to vote for Kathleen
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So my view is it's just a little bit embarrassing, but embarrassment is, you know, people who would
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be embarrassed by the Fords were never for them.
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I don't think this is going to move the needle at all.
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As you know, the allegations of Gary Hart back in the 80s having an affair destroyed
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Now we saw with Trump, you know, having an affairs with a Playboy Bunny, a porn star even, the
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Or you could even go back further, although it wasn't reported in the day to the to the
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But I think people right now, for the most part, by and large, Ezra, that I would rather
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have someone morally flawed who is a great leader than somebody who is morally pristine
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And I don't think this is going to move the needle one way or the other.
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Although the, you know, Horwath and Wynne have jumped on this.
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And and, you know, I got to tell you, I was offended a little bit about the insincerity
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that I determined from what Wynne was saying, you know, about the kids.
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That is who you have to ultimately feel sorry for.
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But, you know, please, Premier Sparras, what did you put your kids through when, you know,
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He had to sleep in the basement while, you know, your lover, you know, was in the master
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bedroom with you and the kids were still living in the residence.
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What I what I sort of chuckled at was Kathleen Wynne putting out press releases, statements
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and tweets saying, I really care about the kids, but this just goes to show.
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I can hardly wait for this election to be over.
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Is it going to be a PC majority with Doug Ford's next Premier?
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I sense the needle moving, not about these two things we talked about, but in the last
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two weeks, almost on a daily basis, Andrea Horwath and her candidates, who I call the new
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not for ready for primetime players, you know, the woman with the Hitler meme, right?
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The candidate who called Toronto's first black police chief a coon.
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I think people who are thinking of voting, you know, voting NDP, maybe even in protest,
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had, you know, if you will, a come to Jesus moment that who are these people?
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Who's going to be the minister of education, minister of health?
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I don't see a depth of talent there in terms of brains.
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And, you know, I mean, God forbid, even the liberals looked spectacular compared to that.
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I think I sensed a shift away from radicalizing Ontario with an NDP government.
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We saw what happened from 1990 to 1995, rather.
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We're seeing what's happening in the Democratic People's Republic of Alberta with Notley.
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And I think that's what did the that turned the screw, Ezra.
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I mean, I think most Ontarians are not following it as closely as you.
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So, for example, the Toronto Sun, which has been breaking a lot of these great stories on the candidates.
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And I know that at least there is some vetting here where there wasn't in Alberta.
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And if I can just interject, Ezra, the advanced polls have been very robust, more than 20 percent increase compared to the last provincial election.
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So I think it's going to be a pretty solid turnout.
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Ask them about the latest Kim Kardashian tweet.
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But I think there's a critical mass that are going to come out because they realize what's at stake here.
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Thanks for covering the Ontario election beat for us so well.
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Look at my monologue yesterday about Tommy Robinson getting 13 months in prison while Anjum Chowdhury is about to be released from prison.
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Liza writes, those eight points to describe Islamophobia are so ridiculous.
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Well, the most terrifying thing about those eight points that define Islamophobia is that they all relate to opinions about an ideology, or at least six out of eight of them did.
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You can't criticize Islam for being old-fashioned.
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What does that have to do with committing a crime against a person?
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Imagine, just replace Christianity for, or any ism, capitalism, socialism, for Islam, and you'll immediately see how bizarre that is.
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But that has been the law that the Metropolitan Police in London have been applying at least for seven years.
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Frazier writes, Chowdhury will likely instigate bloodshed soon after his release.
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I think he's pretty good at walking right up to the line and not going over, although obviously he miscalculated because he's been in prison.
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But he's very provocative, and he couldn't be clearer.
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Turn the United Kingdom, and indeed the whole world, into a theocracy.
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He really is the lawyer face of ISIS-style terrorists.
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On Peter McElwanna's speech about Tommy Robinson and the Rebel Live on Saturday, John writes,
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Impressed, Peter McElwanna came all the way from the UK to tell us about Tommy's tour of the UK Parliament by his good friend, Lord Pearson.
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So if I understand my UK constitution and parliament right, he doesn't have to face election.
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He doesn't have to face any real forms of discipline at the hands of a party.
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I guess he could be stripped of his party status.
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But I would like to see that more by elected MPs.
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You'll recall that even the Labour MP from Rotherham was demoted by the Labour Party for speaking bluntly about rape gangs.
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By the way, you should tune in if you're free in the middle of the day at 12 noon Eastern time, 10 a.m. Mountain time, 9 a.m. Pacific time.
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Today we showed proceedings from the House of Commons in the United Kingdom, a pack of Labour MPs attacking YouTube, an executive from YouTube, haranguing him for not banning Tommy Robinson from YouTube.
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It was very illuminating, and it's just an extra hour a day I do on TV.
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But the fun thing about it is it's live, and I take comments in real time from the public.
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So if you have time at noon hour, if you're on the East Coast or the other time zones I mentioned, tune in on YouTube and let me know what you think.
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We have thousands of people do every day, and I think it's become a bit of a thing.
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It's a little bit fun, and things that don't quite fit into my evening show I put there.
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So please consider tuning in every weekday at 12 noon Eastern.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.