Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show June 12 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Donald Trump leaves the childish gossip of the G7 and makes the most powerful case

00:00:05.160 imaginable to North Korea's tyrant. If it's possible to do a deal, you'll get it. 0.52

00:00:10.760 It's June 12th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:18.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:22.540 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:26.260 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:29.240 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:39.960 Donald Trump flew to Singapore for a one-on-one meeting with Kim Jong-un, the dictator of North Korea.

00:00:46.480 The two men were by themselves, just the two of them, for almost an hour.

00:00:49.860 Then their teams met.

00:00:51.740 Donald Trump has done many deals in his life with many difficult characters.

00:00:55.020 This is obviously the most important of any of them and quite likely the most difficult, too.

00:01:01.340 If it works, the Korean War will finally be over. 0.95

00:01:04.420 It's technically still on the war.

00:01:06.000 You know, it's just in a ceasefire.

00:01:08.680 That's since 1950.

00:01:10.860 That's a 68-year war.

00:01:12.580 A million people died between the two sides, at least.

00:01:16.160 Canada was an official combatant in that war, too.

00:01:19.580 You don't forget.

00:01:20.800 Trump isn't the first U.S. president to try.

00:01:23.440 Here's Bill Clinton's secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, trying.

00:01:26.140 Back in the year 2000, the last year of Clinton's presidency, so desperate for a deal, for a legacy.

00:01:31.920 So many concessions given to Kim Jong-un's father, who just pocketed the concessions,

00:01:36.280 signed whatever piece of paper, and then reneged.

00:01:38.080 Again and again, perpetual grinksmanship, I've heard it called, misbehave, panic the West,

00:01:44.620 the West makes an offer, pocket the offer and behave for a little while, and then misbehave

00:01:49.240 again and rinse and repeat.

00:01:51.920 Well, Donald Trump thought he'd break the cycle first by being tougher than Clinton or Obama

00:01:55.900 or George W. Bush, for that matter.

00:01:58.280 Remember his Twitter comments mocking Kim Jong-un as a little rocket man?

00:02:04.160 I'm sorry, I'm laughing, it's so outrageous that he said that, and mocking his nuclear

00:02:08.700 button, saying Trump's was much bigger and more powerful, and my button works, he said.

00:02:16.400 Now, all the fancy people, all the experts said Trump was going to start World War III

00:02:19.680 over Twitter.

00:02:20.880 No, no, he was just showing that he's not a fool like past presidents, not a pushover,

00:02:25.860 not easily gulled into a compromise, and willing to use military might up to and including

00:02:30.520 nukes.

00:02:31.140 The Western elite saw craziness, they said Trump was crazy, he was rogue, as if those

00:02:38.960 were not calculated tweets, thought through word for word, to do a hard reset on North

00:02:45.220 Korean policy, follow up hard with some of the most massive war games ever scheduled for 0.79

00:02:50.620 the region, training exercises with the South Koreans.

00:02:53.940 This was no Obama peacenik, he was talking about war, and he was rolling out the war machines,

00:02:58.740 and wouldn't you know it, it worked.

00:03:01.580 It worked.

00:03:02.440 At least so far.

00:03:04.020 Six weeks ago, Kim Jong-un walked across the border at Panmunjom, the demilitarized zone,

00:03:11.120 and he shook the hand of his South Korean counterpart, and they had a historic meeting.

00:03:15.800 It was historic, but it wasn't what Trump wanted.

00:03:19.680 He wanted full denuclearization of North Korea, not a photo op.

00:03:23.740 Now, Kim promised that he would do that, but he hasn't done it yet, but he did start doing

00:03:30.220 a few things.

00:03:32.480 He unilaterally released all remaining hostages of Americans that North Korean held.

00:03:37.900 This was what Kim agreed to do even before he had his meeting with Trump.

00:03:43.240 He was making concessions to Trump in advance of the deal.

00:03:46.360 Well, he promised to denuclearize, he promised to do so fully and quickly, and Trump was clearly

00:03:51.600 happy with this.

00:03:53.020 So, Kim did what he always did, and what his father always did.

00:03:58.120 He did the bait and switch.

00:04:00.000 He saw that he got Trump hooked, right?

00:04:01.680 So, he started trash-talking Trump.

00:04:03.740 Well, not Trump specifically, but the United States, because Kim has played this game for

00:04:08.800 years, just like his dad did.

00:04:10.740 But then Trump shows, this ain't his first rodeo, he wrote a very polite letter to Kim

00:04:18.340 Jong-un.

00:04:19.040 Your Excellency, dear Mr. Chairman, we greatly appreciate your time, patience, and effort.

00:04:24.180 He was very nice in the letter, and it was published on the internet, as Trump does, and

00:04:28.940 it basically said, hey man, thanks for releasing the hostages, but we can't have the meeting because

00:04:35.440 you're being belligerent.

00:04:37.700 The Singapore summit is off, he said.

00:04:41.680 If you change your mind and get serious, you know where to reach me, he said.

00:04:45.740 Now, this letter was a shock to Kim.

00:04:48.560 We have reports from journalists who were there in North Korea with senior North Korean aides

00:04:52.900 who, when the journalists read this note to the senior Kim aides, they were visibly shocked

00:04:59.880 and terrified.

00:05:02.800 Kim had misjudged Trump.

00:05:04.700 They had misjudged everything.

00:05:07.800 Now, what if the whole thing was ruined because Kim was playing his games again? 0.97

00:05:11.400 Trump knew rule number one, never want the deal as badly as the other side does, or if

00:05:17.740 you do, keep that a secret.

00:05:20.240 Play poker a little bit.

00:05:22.680 What a contrast to Barack Obama, who made it known he would literally do anything for a

00:05:27.280 nuke deal with Iran, including flying a pallet of cash, more than a billion dollars in banknotes.

00:05:34.080 He just flew it to the regime.

00:05:36.740 I mean, that was bad enough, but the provocations from Iran, like seizing and kidnapping and humiliating 0.99

00:05:41.640 U.S. armed forces in the Persian Gulf, really, there was nothing Iran could do that would make

00:05:47.860 Obama not love them even more.

00:05:50.040 Trump canceled the whole deal over a perceived slight, and Kim jumped right back to attention. 0.99

00:05:56.440 Again, all the fancy people roared.

00:05:58.880 First, they roared that Trump's mean tweets about nuclear buttons would start a war.

00:06:02.160 Then they roared that Trump, walking away from Singapore, made it a lost cause.

00:06:07.100 It's almost like these journalists have no idea what they're doing.

00:06:10.780 Well, Kim Jong-un buckled, of course, and he sent a senior advisor to the White House, and

00:06:16.760 the summit was back on, and indeed it was.

00:06:19.740 Now, before I show you how the summit went, let me remind you of where Trump spent a day

00:06:23.140 or two right before going to Korea.

00:06:25.340 He was in Quebec with Justin Trudeau and the rest of the G7 talking about, I am not kidding,

00:06:31.080 gender quotas and global warming with leaders that if he wanted to, he could pick up the phone 0.56

00:06:37.520 and talk to at any moment.

00:06:39.340 Imagine wasting his time like that.

00:06:41.540 The media mocked Trump for coming late to the meeting on gender equality.

00:06:45.420 Here's a picture of him arriving late.

00:06:47.860 Yeah, you know, Trump could get that politically correct blather anywhere, anytime.

00:06:52.380 He didn't need to sit and listen to our shiny pony talk about being a great male feminist. 0.81

00:06:56.960 He had a few more important things to do, like prepare for a once-in-a-lifetime negotiation

00:07:02.200 with a very unusual and eccentric and reclusive counterpart who happens to have nukes.

00:07:09.240 But no, Trudeau wanted to chat about him about intersectionality and feminism, man.

00:07:14.540 Trump talked a bit with Trudeau about trade.

00:07:17.280 That went off the rails famously and Canada is still fussing about Trump's mean words on Twitter.

00:07:21.940 Meantime, Trump got right on a plane, flew, what, 25 hours to Singapore, had a serious and heavy

00:07:28.700 negotiation, and he's on the plane, I think, right now even, flying back for 25 hours.

00:07:33.500 That's a hell of a grueling schedule for someone who just turned, I think, 72.

00:07:39.320 By contrast, Trudeau, who is 46, needed not only Sunday off, but he needed, yesterday, Monday off,

00:07:46.060 as personal days to recover.

00:07:48.480 Trudeau is 46 and lazy, Trump is 72 and not only has stamina, he actually reads his briefing notes

00:07:55.180 because with Kim Jong-un, you are dealing with someone who is so unlike anywhere else,

00:07:59.720 anyone else on earth, it's almost like he's an alien.

00:08:03.900 He's a dictator, son of a dictator, son of a dictator, three generations of dictators,

00:08:08.620 but not just dictators, cult figures, semi-divine.

00:08:12.720 I mean, we have royalty in Canada, Queen Elizabeth, the princess, they are special,

00:08:18.340 they are born for that purpose, but they are not above the law and they do not claim to be God-given.

00:08:22.400 North Korea is atheist, of course, but their propaganda is virtually religious,

00:08:28.460 but the power and intelligence and morality of the Kim family.

00:08:31.460 So imagine three generations of that.

00:08:34.680 A billionaire, of course, all-powerful, though.

00:08:38.200 He can command that anyone be murdered.

00:08:40.900 He lives in paranoia.

00:08:42.500 He even executes family members.

00:08:45.440 He has delusions of grandeur mixed in with the harsh reality of his failed state,

00:08:49.720 starvation, technological backwardness, but he has a big enough conventional army to destroy South Korea, 0.59

00:08:55.520 but his nukes make him world-class, if only as a potential mass murderer.

00:09:01.200 That's Kim Jong-un.

00:09:03.080 I mean, he has traveled abroad, but not much and not in a normal manner.

00:09:07.340 His father was a film buff.

00:09:10.380 He had 20,000 movies.

00:09:13.540 And of the reel-to-reel style, you know, he was a film fanatic.

00:09:16.660 They imported all sorts of luxury items from the West while their own people starved.

00:09:21.840 His father kidnapped a movie director from South Korea.

00:09:24.640 These are deeply weird, weird people.

00:09:28.540 How do you even negotiate with such people?

00:09:31.780 Trump has negotiated with anyone and everyone in New York real estate.

00:09:35.780 I mean, I can only imagine.

00:09:37.160 Crooked city inspectors, crooked union bosses, tax collectors, lawyers, anyone, everyone.

00:09:43.160 Never with an alien like this, though.

00:09:45.260 Well, how's he going to do it?

00:09:47.560 Well, that's what Trump was doing when he wasn't listening to Justin Trudeau ramble on

00:09:50.920 about being a male ally to feminists. 0.99

00:09:54.000 Trump was surely reading every note, every scrap of intelligence about Kim Jong-un

00:09:58.560 so as to have an effective meeting with him, learn everything about him, learn anything about him.

00:10:03.100 And you can see that in some of the iconography of the meeting.

00:10:06.560 Take a look at this.

00:10:07.720 I'll be right back.

00:10:16.460 I'll be right back.

00:10:16.800 Thank you.

00:10:46.800 Thank you.

00:11:16.800 Because he's got nukes.

00:11:18.960 He was allowed to get nukes under the last guy.

00:11:22.420 And Trump is trying to talk a guy holding a bunch of nukes, trying to talk him down with

00:11:28.800 the power of persuasion, not the power of America's nukes.

00:11:31.860 And he's using Kim's ego and paranoia as emotions, as tools.

00:11:37.660 Look at this panel on CNN.

00:11:40.300 Oh, they wish Obama was having this meeting.

00:11:42.720 They wish they didn't have to praise Trump for potentially ending the 68-year war.

00:11:48.240 So they nitpicked.

00:11:50.120 They were furious about the menu.

00:11:58.580 Sam, you're shaking your head.

00:11:59.580 You agree you want to see some substances.

00:12:00.820 I do, but I want to bring it back to the menu for a second, not just because I'm hungry,

00:12:04.900 but because typically the White House releases these kinds of details after, for example,

00:12:09.860 the French president comes to the White House or another head of state comes for a state visit.

00:12:14.180 So by releasing the details of the menu, this is again legitimizing Kim Jong-un and putting

00:12:20.260 him on equal footing with other world leaders, which is what he wants.

00:12:24.240 One particularly interesting thing about the menu is I was thinking as you were reading

00:12:28.080 all that out, Don, the poor North Korean people, if they knew what is being dished out there, 1.00

00:12:34.620 they can't even imagine the types of foods that you've rolled off your tongue.

00:12:39.000 Right, because they just don't, it's a poor country.

00:12:41.840 And because of Kim Jong-un himself and his family, again, you're right, beef short ribs, 0.54

00:12:47.200 combination of sweet and sour crispy pork and yang-gu fried rice, yang-gu fried rice,

00:12:52.060 soy braised codfish.

00:12:53.800 I mean, that sounds really yummy and very expensive.

00:12:59.000 That really aired on CNN.

00:13:01.360 That's not like satire or anything.

00:13:03.660 That woman, Sam Vinaigrad, used to work for Obama.

00:13:05.800 Do you think she really cares about the menu or do you think she's just begrudging Trump

00:13:12.880 his achievement?

00:13:13.680 Now, the deal's not done yet, but let's have a comparison.

00:13:18.240 CNN and Sam Vinaigrad, they weren't fussed when Obama gave de facto diplomatic recognition

00:13:24.820 to Cuba in his final term, desperate for a legacy like Clinton was.

00:13:29.040 America literally got nothing in return for that.

00:13:32.320 But the media loved it because they're, you know, sort of socialists themselves.

00:13:36.220 Trump's not a socialist.

00:13:37.700 Trump's not a communist.

00:13:39.060 I'm sure Trump actually despises the little rocket man.

00:13:42.660 But you put on a show of respect for someone who's holding a nuclear detonator, at least

00:13:48.580 until you can take the detonator away from him.

00:13:52.360 But I want to close by showing you a masterful video, much different from the short one I

00:13:58.960 just showed you.

00:14:00.160 This next video is obviously created by the CIA.

00:14:05.080 It pretends to be a real movie studio, Destiny Pictures.

00:14:09.120 It sounds like a movie trailer, some kind of voiceover, but it's a movie made for just

00:14:14.880 one person and one person only.

00:14:18.120 It is made for Kim Jong-un to convince him to let go of the detonator.

00:14:24.500 Look at the fascinating details of the movie, the references to the NBA.

00:14:29.740 We know Kim loves the NBA.

00:14:31.760 He loves Dennis Rodman, the NBA player.

00:14:34.680 Sylvester Stallone, other movie imagery, things that we know Kim wants or likes or is obsessed

00:14:41.840 with, and other real life problems like basic electrification.

00:14:48.120 Most of Korea is dark.

00:14:50.520 Food on the shelves.

00:14:52.880 Korea has been starving.

00:14:55.280 Things that he doesn't want, the stick, not just the U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups.

00:15:02.300 There is imagery that I don't quite understand.

00:15:04.840 The sun and the earth and the moon is shown at least five times.

00:15:09.060 I've got to think that's a reference to some cult-like legend about Kim.

00:15:13.440 And there's references to changing the course of history, to letting go of the past.

00:15:18.120 There's references to personal luxury, like the speedboat.

00:15:22.300 I bet Kim indicated somehow that he wanted one, and the CIA heard that, and they said,

00:15:27.560 well, push that button in the movie. 0.97

00:15:29.100 North Korea, a failed state, is put on par with mighty civilizations like Greece, Rome, 0.98

00:15:34.820 Egypt, the British Empire in this film.

00:15:37.160 It's a hell of a thing, and all Kim has to do is accept the hand of peace from Donald

00:15:42.660 Trump, as it said.

00:15:43.500 This is the most amazing movie I think I've ever watched, because it's how to talk to

00:15:50.500 an alien.

00:15:52.060 Here, let me show you this movie in full.

00:15:53.980 Take a look.

00:15:54.420 7 billion people inhabit planet Earth.

00:16:06.120 Of those alive today, only a small number will leave a lasting impact.

00:16:12.040 And only the very few will make decisions or take actions that renew their homeland and change

00:16:19.120 the course of history.

00:16:20.400 History may appear to repeat itself for generations, cycles that never seem to end.

00:16:29.560 There have been times of relative peace, and times of great tension.

00:16:35.560 While this cycle repeats, the light of prosperity and innovation has burned bright for most of

00:16:41.900 the world.

00:16:43.280 History is always evolving.

00:16:45.820 And there comes a time when only a few are called upon to make a difference.

00:16:52.320 But the question is, what difference will the few make?

00:16:56.760 The past doesn't have to be the future.

00:17:00.460 Out of the darkness can come the light.

00:17:03.400 And the light of hope can burn bright.

00:17:06.100 What if a people that share a common and rich heritage can find a common future?

00:17:19.940 Their story is well known.

00:17:22.520 But what will be their sequel?

00:17:24.380 Destiny Pictures presents a story of opportunity.

00:17:33.080 A new story.

00:17:34.540 A new beginning.

00:17:36.280 One of peace.

00:17:37.680 Two men.

00:17:39.140 Two leaders.

00:17:41.040 One destiny.

00:17:43.640 A story about a special moment in time.

00:17:46.500 When a man is presented with one chance that may never be repeated.

00:17:50.600 What will he choose?

00:17:53.060 To show vision and leadership?

00:17:56.540 Or not?

00:18:02.580 There can only be two results.

00:18:06.620 One of moving back.

00:18:08.380 A new world can begin today.

00:18:34.360 One of friendship, respect, and goodwill.

00:18:40.920 Be part of that world.

00:18:42.980 Where the doors of opportunity are ready to be open.

00:18:46.240 Investment from around the world.

00:18:48.700 Where you can have medical breakthroughs.

00:18:50.880 An abundance of resources.

00:18:52.660 Innovative technology.

00:18:54.260 And new discoveries.

00:18:56.380 What if?

00:18:57.420 Can history be changed?

00:18:59.700 Will the world embrace this change?

00:19:01.860 And when could this moment in history begin?

00:19:05.140 It comes down to a choice.

00:19:07.520 On this day.

00:19:08.640 In this time.

00:19:10.040 At this moment.

00:19:11.520 The world will be watching.

00:19:13.880 Listening.

00:19:15.140 Anticipating.

00:19:16.500 Hoping.

00:19:18.040 Will this leader choose to advance his country?

00:19:21.280 And be part of a new world?

00:19:23.180 Be the hero of his people?

00:19:24.960 Will he shake the hand of peace?

00:19:28.680 And enjoy prosperity like he has never seen?

00:19:32.620 A great life?

00:19:33.980 Or more isolation?

00:19:36.920 Which path will be chosen?

00:19:40.920 Featuring President Donald Trump.

00:19:43.420 And Chairman Kim Jong-un.

00:19:47.800 In a meeting to remake history.

00:19:51.740 To shine in the sun.

00:19:54.280 One moment.

00:19:55.480 One choice.

00:19:57.720 What if?

00:20:00.260 The future remains to be written.

00:20:03.620 Weird, right?

00:20:05.540 Well, do you think there's a weirder person alive on the planet than Kim Jong-un, who is not in a psych ward?

00:20:12.180 Trump has the toughest negotiation of his life with the highest stakes imaginable.

00:20:17.120 And so far he's done well.

00:20:19.680 I mean, there's that whole menu thing.

00:20:21.240 CNN's got a great point there.

00:20:23.420 But Trump has got some concessions in advance.

00:20:25.580 He showed he was willing to walk away.

00:20:27.680 He was strong.

00:20:29.560 But he's offering a hand of peace.

00:20:31.240 Let's see if it works.

00:20:33.080 If it doesn't, I truly don't believe anyone could ever get a deal.

00:20:37.000 Certainly not Obama.

00:20:38.180 And we know that Clinton already tried and failed.

00:20:41.220 This was Donald Trump being a serious president.

00:20:44.040 I've said it before, and it is true. 0.97

00:20:46.220 Canada, thank God, is just not that high on his to-do list.

00:20:50.160 China, Mexico, Iran, North Korea.

00:20:52.220 Build the wall.

00:20:52.960 Keep out terrorists.

00:20:53.840 Strengthen the military.

00:20:54.940 Bring back factories.

00:20:56.840 He really does what he says he's going to do.

00:20:59.620 We are lucky that Trump doesn't pay too much attention to us.

00:21:03.220 Because it seems like all the Canadian establishment does is whine about him and insult him.

00:21:08.140 And this weekend, he finally noticed it, and he slapped back for the first time.

00:21:11.640 But while our pundits will talk about that Twitter slap for the rest of the year, Trump already moved on to solving the North Korean crisis or not.

00:21:21.980 Either way, it's fascinating.

00:21:24.000 And either way, it's best to ignore the know-nothings who keep counting Trump out right before his victories.

00:21:30.400 At this rate, he'll have the Israeli-Arab wars all tidied up, and the media will be complaining about the menus.

00:21:38.180 Yeah, let Trudeau have his male feminism lectures, and let Barack Obama have his Nobel Peace Prize. 1.00

00:21:44.500 I'm not sure for what, for droning or something.

00:21:47.960 I'm more interested in the leader of the free world, tackling problems nobody thought could be solved.

00:21:52.960 It's not a done deal yet in Korea, but I'm betting it will be. 1.00

00:21:57.620 I mean, would you bet against it?

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00:22:45.260 Welcome back.

00:22:46.040 Well, the world is riveted by Donald Trump meeting with Kim Jong-un in Singapore and the possibility of peace for the first time in 68 years on that Korean peninsula.

00:22:56.320 Remember that Canada actually fought in that war, too, officially.

00:23:01.100 We were part of the battle.

00:23:02.200 So there are still Korean vets in this country to this day.

00:23:06.260 I think a lot of people don't want that to succeed because, of course, Donald Trump would be the hero, and people would rather, some people would rather have the war continue than for him to actually be successful.

00:23:15.960 But that's not the only important news in the world.

00:23:18.380 I think a major Canadian election happened last week, and if things go well there, our country will be changed for the better.

00:23:26.180 And speaking, of course, of the election of Doug Ford as the new premier of Ontario,

00:23:30.920 the more I think about that, the more I think that it's not just a win for Ontario, but for the entire country,

00:23:37.660 not just because Ontario is such an important population and economy, but rather what it also telegraphs to Prime Minister Trudeau and other provinces

00:23:46.020 about what's possible on issues ranging from taxes to the carbon tax to federal-provincial relations to just how to deal with the media.

00:23:52.940 I think it's so interesting.

00:23:54.400 And someone who got the Doug Ford phenomenon right, not many did.

00:24:00.020 Joe Warmington did.

00:24:01.480 Sue Ann Levy did.

00:24:02.580 And so did our next guest.

00:24:04.180 You know him well.

00:24:04.780 His name is Anthony Fury, and he's a columnist with the Toronto Sun.

00:24:08.200 Anthony, great to see you again.

00:24:10.400 There's been a lot of exciting international news and the G7 in Canada.

00:24:14.180 But really, Doug Ford's election, I think, is a watershed moment of this political season, don't you think?

00:24:22.820 I completely agree.

00:24:24.220 And Ezra, we're seeing something of a paradigm shift here, whether it's in Donald Trump dealing with Iran and North Korea,

00:24:30.120 or whether it's even Doug Ford back home.

00:24:32.200 I think shifting away from this shaky moral relativism where we never know where we stand

00:24:36.780 to people articulating really firm positions that put the best interests of their own electorate at heart.

00:24:43.080 And that's what the Doug Ford election, I think, has done.

00:24:46.020 He's a guy who has some common sense views on a number of important issues, like balancing the books, for instance,

00:24:51.120 and getting rid of this darn carbon tax, which is why in my column I released something of an action plan.

00:24:56.040 I think there's three things that he's got to do from the get-go right away,

00:25:00.120 because you better believe that there will be a lot of entrenched interests,

00:25:02.800 and perhaps some of our colleagues in the media who are not interested in seeing Doug Ford succeed,

00:25:08.320 and will take a lot of great effort to go and derail his agenda that he has a very firm mandate for.

00:25:14.880 He's got a four-year majority term, but Ezra, that year can go by really fast, those four years.

00:25:19.020 Yeah, you're so right.

00:25:19.860 Well, you referred to your column, I have it in my hands here, it's called,

00:25:23.200 Ford Agenda Needs to Commence Quickly and Decisively.

00:25:27.060 And I'll just read three bullet points, and maybe you can expand.

00:25:29.680 The first is enact a hiring freeze.

00:25:33.560 That's an interesting one, because what Tim Hudak's promises in the last election was to lay off 100,000 public servants.

00:25:42.180 Your second advice is convene an efficiencies panel consisting of the top talent in cabinet.

00:25:48.460 I'm going to ask you what you mean by that.

00:25:50.040 And the third one, I think, is the easiest to understand, defeat the carbon tax.

00:25:54.740 So why don't we take those one at a time, a hiring freeze. 0.60

00:25:57.600 Yeah, right now there's about 21% of the entire Ontario Public Service that is due to retire throughout Doug Ford's term.

00:26:06.600 That's a lot.

00:26:07.240 And we know the number one cost, Ezra, of governments all across the Western world is people, people and transfers to other levels of government.

00:26:14.380 So if you want to save money, you've got to do it with people.

00:26:17.140 Now, there's always fear-mongering that conservatives are going to get rid of your kids' teachers, they're going to get rid of nurses and doctors.

00:26:23.020 Doug Ford said, I'm not getting rid of a single person.

00:26:25.620 So let's take his word at that.

00:26:27.460 How then do we actually decrease the headcount at government, which is the big cost?

00:26:32.360 Well, this thing called attrition, where there are people, many thousands of people who are retiring every year are leaving to pursue other opportunities.

00:26:40.100 I say hire-freeze.

00:26:42.000 Don't rehire any of those people until you've done an exhaustive analysis of exactly who you need to rehire to fulfill those core public services that Ontarians rely on.

00:26:52.040 And if it doesn't fit that watermark, you don't rehire them.

00:26:55.620 Yeah.

00:26:55.920 I think there's two ways to cut.

00:26:58.040 One is to trim a little bit of everything.

00:27:00.400 And the other is to, and I don't know how successful that ever gets.

00:27:04.560 Another is to look at an entire department, an entire agency and say, that whole thing doesn't need to be here.

00:27:13.060 So we don't just have to roll that back two or three percent.

00:27:15.760 We can say goodbye to it.

00:27:17.820 We can privatize it.

00:27:18.860 We can sell it.

00:27:19.460 We can just shut it down and declare victory.

00:27:22.060 And I'm not saying that we would treat those workers who have been doing what they were asked to do.

00:27:26.700 I'm not saying we would treat them poorly.

00:27:27.980 We would give them a severance.

00:27:29.040 I mean, you know, follow the law and maybe even be generous with it.

00:27:34.600 But if you shut down an entire crown corporation or sold it, I think that's probably a quicker way than just trying to nibble around the edges.

00:27:45.300 That's my own instinct.

00:27:46.260 And I'm thinking back to Ralph Klein's days when he would, for example, he privatized all the registries in Alberta, like driver's licenses and fishing.

00:27:55.760 He just, boom, he just did it.

00:27:58.000 And liquor stores, he just did it.

00:28:00.860 And the place hasn't fallen apart.

00:28:02.700 So that's probably better than nibbling.

00:28:05.720 That's my view.

00:28:06.240 What do you think?

00:28:07.420 Yeah, you can do that as well.

00:28:09.060 There's about 600 agencies, boards and commissions in Ontario.

00:28:12.500 And I think there are a few things that you look at them and you appreciate why they do need to be arm's length agencies of the government.

00:28:19.100 Things that sort of, you know, manage our nuclear power and so forth.

00:28:22.260 But then there are most others, I would say, you either privatize them, so you get rid of them,

00:28:26.960 or you eliminate them and just fold them into government.

00:28:29.600 We've been doing this thing called eHealth for a decade now, which is they've brought in hundreds of people to try and digitize the health records.

00:28:35.720 It was a scandal a number of years ago.

00:28:37.100 It still exists.

00:28:37.920 A lot of people don't realize this thing still kick it.

00:28:39.960 Just fold down operations and hand the digitization over to the Ministry of Health.

00:28:44.500 So tons of examples where I think you can find a lot of stuff there because outsourcing, it drives me nuts, Ezra, that the liberal government created so many of these because I think they knew that if there's a success, you can say, oh, look, we were so brilliant by creating that.

00:28:57.080 If there's a scandal or failure, they go, well, this has nothing to do with us.

00:28:59.760 This is an arm's length agency.

00:29:01.140 So they were trying to get the best of both worlds.

00:29:03.060 Yeah.

00:29:04.120 You know, I remember during the campaign, people said, well, you can't oppose the carbon tax.

00:29:08.560 Where are you going to come up with the money?

00:29:10.380 And Doug Ford said, look, there's no business I know that can't look through its accounts and say, well, we could save a few percent here.

00:29:16.680 And that rung true to me.

00:29:18.200 I mean, one of the things we do here at The Rebel, besides me yapping, is we try and run it as a business.

00:29:22.680 And we have to make, you know, there's no business, especially one as flabby as a government that can't find a few percent here and there.

00:29:30.880 And you talk about an efficiencies panel.

00:29:33.360 Now, I think we've got to come up with a zippier name than an efficiency panel.

00:29:37.820 It's not just a make work project.

00:29:39.500 I know it sounds like convene a committee to create a report that reports a report.

00:29:43.140 It's not that, I promise you.

00:29:44.540 But, I mean, you know, another phrase I've heard is zero-based budgeting, which is, all right, start from zero and try and justify everything.

00:29:51.700 Instead of start with the default where we are, start from scratch.

00:29:55.160 And can you really justify these things?

00:29:57.340 I don't know.

00:29:57.760 I mean, I think if you brought in someone, and they don't even have to be like a guru, just someone who's, in fact, maybe even a small businessman's better because they're used to counting every dollar.

00:30:07.840 And they don't say, oh, that's just a million.

00:30:10.020 You know, a guy who has a corner store, you know, he sweats every dollar.

00:30:14.540 I'd rather have, you know, a guy who's run a convenience store and makes his money 50 cents at a time in, you know, selling candy bars.

00:30:22.580 I'd love to have a guy like that going through the budget.

00:30:25.060 It reminds me of that old movie Dave, where Dave became, you know, the president.

00:30:31.140 He brought in his money.

00:30:32.280 You know, frankly, I'd rather have a guy who is a small businessman go through because he'd be appalled by just a million, whereas professional bureaucrats say, oh, that's just a million.

00:30:42.000 Yeah, you can do that as well.

00:30:43.120 I mean, the idea I write for, I say you get the top cabinet ministers because the bulk of the expenses of Ontario government, aside from people, are in health care and education and debt servicing payments.

00:30:53.020 But that's another story.

00:30:54.380 So you get those cabinet ministers in a room.

00:30:56.400 You tell them, OK, you guys have, I don't know, three months.

00:30:59.140 And here are your specific targets.

00:31:00.880 I need to see that whatever it is, 1.5 percent cut found within three months.

00:31:06.660 We can do more later.

00:31:07.740 But I'm just saying baby steps.

00:31:08.980 Let's get this done, because as are every few months, there are new bonds that are being reissued.

00:31:13.160 They're sort of coming up for maturity.

00:31:15.100 And then they are going to get reissued and they're going to get reissued at 2 percent, 3 percent higher.

00:31:19.100 It goes a lot higher than the spread is for basic Bank of Canada rates.

00:31:22.540 So if Doug Ford doesn't cut now, costs are still going to skyrocket on his tenure simply because of rising interest rates.

00:31:31.300 And we've seen Moody's actually downgrade the Ontario credit rating once again.

00:31:35.140 So I think if he shows this really polished way to do it, it'll send a message to Bay Street and to Moody's that they can actually increase their credit rating again.

00:31:43.220 And that in itself will actually save us probably $100 million a year just by improving the credit rating.

00:31:48.600 Yeah. You know, I think Doug Ford should tell all his cabinet ministers come up with 5 percent cuts, 10 percent cuts and 15 percent cuts.

00:31:56.000 Show me that. Now, you've got to be aware, because sometimes a bureaucrat will say, oh, fireman first.

00:32:00.700 Oh, you want me to cut that much, eh? Well, I'm going to cut the fireman and the ambulance.

00:32:04.120 Right.

00:32:04.660 As a way it so. But I remember it. I'm shown how old I am now.

00:32:08.960 But back in Alberta, the minister who privatized a couple of things I mentioned, the licenses, liquor stores, his name was Steve West.

00:32:15.040 And he boasted about having cut more from his own department.

00:32:18.880 There was like an internal contest. And Steve West boasted that he cut more than the other guys.

00:32:23.740 And you know what? He didn't cut services. He just gave it to the private sector.

00:32:27.160 And Albertans love getting their driver's license now.

00:32:30.340 They don't have to line up and they love getting their.

00:32:32.900 I'm just telling you, is that expat Albertan, it's better having privatized beer and wine and licenses.

00:32:40.200 But Ezra, you're still in the Alberta mindset, because I always say the big difference.

00:32:45.700 Jason Kenney, you know, respect the guy and all the hard work he's doing to unite the right in Alberta.

00:32:50.280 He's got it easy, though, because there doesn't need to be a culture change in Alberta.

00:32:54.240 They're just going to, after Adotley's gone, they're just going to revert back to their sort of natural way of being.

00:32:58.860 Whereas here in Ontario, I got to tell you, you know what it's like.

00:33:01.100 You're in the latte shops and so forth.

00:33:02.760 And the things they're saying in the lineup, I mean, you know, it would make an Albertan blush quite heavily.

00:33:07.740 So Doug Ford's got to I think you can do 15 percent right off the bat.

00:33:12.180 But I'm happy to just go slower a bit year by year to to to to inoculate people to the idea.

00:33:19.260 Although it can't be too slow, because the problem is you've got to get the dirty work out of the way to begin with.

00:33:23.460 So it's kind of kind of balancing that whole issue.

00:33:26.520 Well, you know, I'm going to give you a more Alberta ism. 0.85

00:33:28.400 And Jim Denning, who was a key architect of Ralph Klein's revolution, said you can't leap a chasm in two jumps.

00:33:38.000 So his advice was take a running leap in the first one because you've got to get her done as fast as possible.

00:33:43.800 Let me ask you one last question.

00:33:45.060 I know I've taken up a lot of your time.

00:33:47.240 What do you think is the greatest risk to Doug Ford?

00:33:51.940 What's the greatest likelihood of becoming an impediment to him doing these things you talk about?

00:33:58.400 It's a good question, I would say, because there's going to be media resistance and there's going to be protesters coming up with sort of silly excuses about why he's so evil and so forth.

00:34:10.320 But but but that's really just something you need to ignore.

00:34:12.520 I think the actual challenge is fighting government inertia.

00:34:16.160 And to your point, you really need to get in and do the deep dive.

00:34:18.740 And when the bureaucrats say to you, OK, we found four percent, that actually means there's six percent or seven percent.

00:34:25.540 You need to push them to that.

00:34:26.720 And when the bureaucrats say, here's option A, B and C, there's an option D.

00:34:30.220 And you need to find a way to push for them to get that to you, because government inertia, I think, is a powerful thing.

00:34:35.740 And a lot of times, you know, Kathleen Wynne, Dalton McGinty, I'm sure they'd like to pretend that they were aspirationally fiscally conservative, showing fiscal restraint.

00:34:44.500 But they never tried to combat that inertia. So I think when a deputy minister told them we have to have a three percent increase, they just said, oh, do you really?

00:34:52.080 And they said, yes, we do. And they said, OK, fine. And that was how we got a lot of this creeping growth, probably just a lot of throwing up their hands, kind of laziness on the part of the overseers, the political overseers.

00:35:02.200 And that's what Doug Ford's really got to be on guard against.

00:35:04.420 Yeah. If I may be permitted, 60 seconds to answer my own question. I think the big three are the bureaucratic inertia.

00:35:12.380 I think unions, activist unions and their NGO front groups that are going to have days of rage and days of protest and then make it seem like Doug Ford's election was not legitimate.

00:35:22.560 And I think the number one threat to Doug Ford is the media. And if they can get into his head and make him bend the knee and make him self-conscious and make him think they're the center of attention.

00:35:36.240 To me, those are the three threats that Doug Ford faces. It'll be fascinating to see how it goes.

00:35:41.680 All right, Ezra. Thanks very much.

00:35:43.120 It's great to have you. Thanks for this column.

00:35:44.700 Let me just read out the headline one more time for our folks at home who might want to tune in.

00:35:48.500 It's on the Toronto Sun website. It's called Ford Agenda. Needs to commence quickly and decisively.

00:35:53.760 Ain't that the truth, Anthony? Thanks for being here.

00:35:55.900 Take care.

00:35:56.380 All right. Stay with us, folks. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:36:08.920 Welcome back.

00:36:09.720 Well, once a year in Canada, a foreign embassy or foreign agents from Iran have a provocative extremist event in downtown Toronto.

00:36:21.060 They have it in other cities around the world as well. It's financed by the Iranian regime. 0.70

00:36:26.500 It's called Al-Quds Day, which is a way of saying the day to reconquer Jerusalem from the Jews. 0.85

00:36:34.320 It's an explicitly anti-Semitic day. The speakers couldn't be plainer about their meaning.

00:36:41.820 And we sent our own David Menzies down to Ontario's Queen Park Legislature to see how it went.

00:36:48.200 Well, I'll let you see for yourself.

00:36:52.100 Everyone's... What are these dolls about?

00:36:54.940 You know about that, right?

00:36:57.160 No. Excuse me. You touch me again.

00:37:00.640 You grab me. You do that again.

00:37:04.500 You're touching the woman.

00:37:05.260 You do that again.

00:37:05.920 That's pathetic what you're doing. You're in their personal space.

00:37:08.760 You are in their personal space.

00:37:10.180 You put your hands on me.

00:37:11.240 You are in their personal space.

00:37:12.720 Hey! Hey! 0.97

00:37:14.900 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

00:37:17.080 That's it.

00:37:17.740 I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

00:37:18.820 That's why we're asking.

00:37:19.960 You are in their personal space.

00:37:21.840 Amen.

00:37:23.720 Let me be crystal clear. This is financed by Iran. 0.80

00:37:27.320 It would be bad enough if this was an organic event.

00:37:30.640 I put it to you, this is the equivalent of the Charlottesville alt-right racist protest in Virginia.

00:37:39.160 How is this any different?

00:37:40.440 It's racist. It's a protest. It's funded.

00:37:43.880 But not a peep from the mainstream media because, you know, it's Muslims and it's Iran and, you know, it's only David Menzies or Jews who care. 1.00

00:37:53.240 Tonya Sound Studio is our friend David Menzies.

00:37:55.320 What was it like? I mean, there was a quick part.

00:37:57.620 You being jostled isn't the most important part of the story, but it's an indication that these folks don't care about niceties, about not assaulting people or free press.

00:38:08.260 They're Iranian agents. 0.81

00:38:09.740 Oh, 100 percent. And this is almost 40 years in the making.

00:38:12.880 Ezra goes back to 1979.

00:38:14.760 Ayatollah Khomeini is the one who started this in Iran, as you mentioned.

00:38:18.600 By the way, the trigger for that altercation was, as you notice, I was trying to get a comment from some of the female marchers.

00:38:27.600 And that fellow, who I guess is one of the marshals, he was basically telling me that I was invading their personal space.

00:38:37.400 I got the sense that he didn't like the idea that I was going to a female Palestinian and treating her as an equal human being, as a male Palestinian.

00:38:47.060 It was kind of like I got the vibe, you're messing with our livestock, OK?

00:38:51.320 Well, I mean, they believe in Sharia law.

00:38:52.800 They don't believe in equal rights.

00:38:54.380 It bugs me when you have foreign meddling in Canada. 0.98

00:38:57.660 It bugs me that Justin Trudeau wants to normalize relations with Iran.

00:39:01.400 It's not just Iran and anti-Semitism.

00:39:03.700 I don't like it when communist China roughs up Chinese democracy activists or Falun Gong activists here.

00:39:10.040 I don't like it when American money comes into middle with our oil sands by funding radical groups.

00:39:16.740 It's bad enough that we have to deal with ruffians and ragamuffins who are Canadian citizens. 1.00

00:39:21.480 But this is a foreign-funded stunt.

00:39:23.420 Indeed.

00:39:24.620 And to bring it back to the local, Ezra, let's not forget that, as per usual, no permit was applied for nor given by the City of Toronto.

00:39:33.840 And, of course, we have a milquetoast mayor, John Tory, who said, well, you know, we'll let the police monitor, you know, the usual hatred, pardon me, that erupts at these Al-Quds Day rallies.

00:39:43.700 And it was kind of funny.

00:39:46.100 To juxtapose the Al-Quds hatred, there was also a naked bike ride in Toronto. 0.99

00:39:51.920 And once again, Ezra, it's the old adage, why is it the people that you don't want to see naked are the ones taking their clothes off all the time?

00:39:59.080 And so they had this sausage fest going around Queen's Park just before the Al-Quds Day rally.

00:40:04.520 Again, no permit.

00:40:05.760 And it seems to be we have, if there's going to be a critical mass of people, well, the rules don't apply.

00:40:11.420 But, you know, I kind of wonder if that was a neo-Nazi group assembling on the lawns of Queen's Park, if that was Klansmen, right, odious groups like that. 0.61

00:40:20.300 Do you think John Tory and the powers that be would go, well, you know, they don't have a permit and we know things might get a little hot under the collar, but we're just going to monitor it.

00:40:29.480 Well, you don't have to get as extreme as a neo-Nazi.

00:40:31.360 I mean, you could, I remember a couple of years ago when some men's rights activist pickup artist named Roosh Valizadeh came to town and he was practically, I mean, he was denounced by the mayor, by aldermen.

00:40:43.580 It was practically a manhunt for him.

00:40:45.520 You don't even have to go that far.

00:40:47.460 You could look at Lindsay Shepard, the young teaching assistant and master student at Laurier University.

00:40:54.440 She's not even allowed to have events unless she pays thousands of dollars in security fees. 0.92

00:41:01.180 So you don't even have to use the neo-Nazi example or the Roosh pickup artist example.

00:41:06.060 Just plain old conservatives.

00:41:08.280 Look, the rebel, we've had events and we've had signed contracts with conference centers in Toronto.

00:41:14.700 The Monocasino Hotel Convention Center on Chesswood Drive, for example.

00:41:23.200 They get roughed up by some threatening calls from Antifa.

00:41:26.680 They rip up the contract.

00:41:27.740 So that's private property paying a contract, let alone a school.

00:41:31.400 It's complete double standard.

00:41:33.020 But what irks me the most, I think, is all the so-called hate police and feelings police that come for guys like you and me with human rights complaints.

00:41:43.040 These folks call for the extinction of Israel, the genocide of Israel.

00:41:48.140 They use the word extinguish or extinct.

00:41:51.280 I mean, they're not even hiding their goal is to kill Israel. 0.86

00:41:59.280 And the Human Rights Commission people couldn't care less.

00:42:02.000 No, great point.

00:42:02.920 And as a matter of fact, before the parade began, I began interviewing this one fellow there before the gatekeepers realized he was a bit on the Looney Tunes side.

00:42:11.700 It's not good publicity for him.

00:42:13.520 He was wearing the Hezbollah flag as a cape.

00:42:16.200 That's a banned terrorist group.

00:42:17.720 It's a criminal group in Canada.

00:42:19.680 It's like ISIS in Canada.

00:42:21.500 Exactly.

00:42:22.240 And so he's got the green and yellow Hezbollah flag, which has as part of the motif a semi-automatic gun.

00:42:29.500 And he's holding two framed photographs of the Ayatollah Khomeini.

00:42:34.940 And he kept interrupting my line of questioning, and he kept asking me, do you believe in human rights?

00:42:42.200 And I thought, does this guy own a mirror?

00:42:46.200 Oh, my God.

00:42:47.080 Yeah, it's literally, we saw it for a bit there.

00:42:50.120 The flag of Hezbollah is literally, it's a yellow background and a green machine gun.

00:42:54.640 Yes, yes.

00:42:55.520 And you know what?

00:42:57.760 The police, from what I understand, didn't do a thing.

00:43:00.040 Is that correct?

00:43:00.720 Well, you know what?

00:43:03.200 How about the flag?

00:43:04.620 I mean, I wonder if you could have an ISIS flag.

00:43:08.000 I mean, listen, they say boycott Israel.

00:43:09.880 That's free speech.

00:43:10.540 I don't like the fact that they're bringing their anti-spirit.

00:43:13.080 9-11 was an inside job or a hoax. 0.70

00:43:15.120 We saw, these are the looniest of the Looney Tunes.

00:43:17.780 I just don't like the fact that we're importing folks with these views by the hundred of thousand.

00:43:22.520 I don't like the fact that we're importing terrorist supporters.

00:43:25.200 I actually personally don't think it should be a crime to hold up an odious flag, whether

00:43:30.260 it's a swastika, a hammer and sickle, a Che Guevara shirt or an ISIS flag.

00:43:34.140 I find them all odious.

00:43:35.760 I don't think that should be a crime.

00:43:38.000 But the folks, the liberals believe in thought crimes, believe in feelings crimes, but they're

00:43:43.040 silent when it's their friends on the hard left.

00:43:44.780 A hundred percent.

00:43:45.560 And Ezra, I want to tell you too, the media, I noticed, I think I saw CP24 there in terms

00:43:51.300 of television media.

00:43:52.880 No global, no CTV, no CBC.

00:43:55.640 Now, wait a minute.

00:43:56.300 This is a group of at least 500 marchers spewing hatred with no permit, holding up traffic,

00:44:02.220 going down University Avenue.

00:44:03.940 I guess the Blue Jays were playing or something.

00:44:06.280 We have to cover that.

00:44:07.120 And I think what it comes down to is this isn't the kind of diversity they like, right?

00:44:14.080 We kind of like, you know, you know, a bunch of Ukrainians and their, you know, native dress

00:44:18.960 doing that kick dancing routine, you know, and everyone's getting along eating pierogies.

00:44:23.440 But when you see, you know, Zionist conspiracy and drive Israel into the ocean and all this

00:44:29.140 kind of stuff.

00:44:29.960 Another thing I noticed too, and I should tell you, there was a counter protest, the pro-Israel

00:44:34.560 people who were lovely.

00:44:36.220 I mean, you know, you had women in shorts and tank tops, just enjoying their freedom, 0.97

00:44:42.100 waving the Star of David.

00:44:44.380 And so just full of love there.

00:44:47.380 And what the saddest exclamation mark on the Al-Quds protesters were those families that 1.00

00:44:53.520 brought kids as young as six or seven, right?

00:44:56.220 And I spoke to one of the counter protesters.

00:44:58.940 I said, what is the worst thing you've seen?

00:45:01.160 And he said, well, he says, I haven't seen it yet this year, but last year I was here.

00:45:04.940 And there were kids about seven or eight, and they were doing this with their throat.

00:45:09.060 They were looking at the Jewish counter protesters.

00:45:11.560 And so already indoctrinating them, you know, to hate at that youthful age.

00:45:18.380 Absolutely despicable, Ezra.

00:45:19.680 And I put it to you again, if these were, we've seen cases in Canada where a mom or a dad has a

00:45:26.500 stupid swastika tattoo. 0.79

00:45:28.320 I'm obviously not for that.

00:45:29.800 And the kids are taken away by child services.

00:45:32.180 Here you've got kids being taught to make the ISIS slit the throat sign.

00:45:37.320 And of course, child welfare would never even touch these cases.

00:45:39.560 They don't even intervene when the kids are being abused with honor violence.

00:45:43.240 Of course, you're not going to intervene in that case.

00:45:45.240 You know, and I mean, I got to tell you, this is, I grew up in this city, Ezra.

00:45:52.820 This is not my bag.

00:45:54.180 This is not my Toronto.

00:45:55.800 When I, I don't remember a time when you would have hundreds of people, you know, marching,

00:46:01.560 saying the most vile, hateful things.

00:46:04.080 You pointed the guy with the t-shirt, you know, Zionist inside job for 9-11. 0.95

00:46:09.900 I tried interviewing him.

00:46:11.520 He just kept calling me filth.

00:46:14.500 You know, and that was the other thing.

00:46:15.920 If you're going to have a demonstration to make all these signs, you know, can't you articulate

00:46:21.000 your points a little better than just doing ad hominem attacks on people that, I don't

00:46:27.960 know, are just trying to report the facts?

00:46:30.680 And as far as I've seen, not a word from the mayor, John Tory.

00:46:33.340 Doug Ford, though, the premier came down pretty hard on it, saying he'll do his best to stop

00:46:37.220 it.

00:46:37.440 Oh, wasn't that a breath of fresh air?

00:46:40.500 You know, this to me, it was, you know, I mean, Ford has said so many things.

00:46:45.400 I mean, he's still premier elect.

00:46:46.860 He said, you know, they say, hey, are you going to march in the gay pride parade?

00:46:50.180 He goes, OK, as long as you bring the cops back.

00:46:52.520 Right.

00:46:52.780 And, you know, he's going to reform the sex ed curriculum.

00:46:57.380 So, you know, a win for Tanya Granik-Allen there.

00:47:00.460 And everything's going out for tender, including the pencils at Queen's Park.

00:47:04.600 And then the fourth home run was saying, that's it.

00:47:09.300 You know, and he has got, you know, the legislative power behind him.

00:47:14.360 You don't have a permit.

00:47:15.920 It's an illegal.

00:47:17.120 And you know what?

00:47:17.860 The government of Iran can have all the protests they want in Iran.

00:47:21.300 Actually, they have a lot of protests there, but they're unsanctioned.

00:47:24.280 Listen, David, I'm glad you went down there.

00:47:26.740 It looks like they pushed you around a lot, but they didn't do any harm to you.

00:47:30.820 I'm like my Timex, Ezra.

00:47:32.440 Takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

00:47:34.300 You've got to be a little more forceful than that.

00:47:36.560 Yeah.

00:47:36.860 But you know what?

00:47:37.640 I'm getting tired of the violence.

00:47:39.260 Next time, I'm actually going to lay down the law.

00:47:41.500 Touch me again like that.

00:47:42.700 I'm going to drill you.

00:47:43.580 I'm done.

00:47:44.240 You know what?

00:47:44.660 Let's make sure we have some security guards with you because a bunch of our reporters 0.94

00:47:49.040 are being assaulted by radical leftists, whether it was Sheila Gunn-Reed in Edmonton or when

00:47:55.080 he used to work with us in New York, Gavin McInnes or Lauren Southern.

00:47:58.920 So many of our people have been attacked.

00:48:01.500 No other journalists are attacked.

00:48:03.160 You were asking tough questions, but fair questions.

00:48:06.000 And if the police want to arrest these guys, we need private security to help you.

00:48:10.660 And I noticed they tried to block the camera too.

00:48:13.280 Oh, it was more than blocking.

00:48:14.840 He was trying to rip the lens off.

00:48:17.180 It was screwed in too tight.

00:48:18.860 And Ezra, I can tell you this.

00:48:20.060 I know we're out of time.

00:48:21.120 But if I had thrown a punch back in self-defense and connected, who are they going to come down

00:48:26.840 on?

00:48:27.180 Yeah.

00:48:27.500 Right?

00:48:27.880 Well, and that's the thing.

00:48:28.660 We don't want you in trouble.

00:48:29.620 We don't want you to get into fisty cuffs.

00:48:32.020 But next time, we want you to keep covering Al-Quds and other things like it, because 1.00

00:48:36.160 as you point out, the mainstream media was absent other than CP24.

00:48:39.440 We just don't want you.

00:48:40.660 We'll have security with you.

00:48:42.060 And we'll have another camera to film the attack on the first camera, because you need

00:48:46.980 to do that with these guys.

00:48:47.900 I'm glad you were there, David.

00:48:48.800 Thank you so much, boss.

00:48:49.620 All right.

00:48:49.880 Well, thanks for being there.

00:48:50.720 Stay with us.

00:48:51.200 More Ahead on The Ripple.

00:49:03.480 Hey, welcome back.

00:49:04.540 Your viewer feedback on my monologue yesterday about Canada's disastrous trade war with the

00:49:08.940 U.S.

00:49:09.280 Paul writes, Trudeau is throwing Canada under the bus to be a white knight to Mexico.

00:49:13.920 He refuses to make a separate deal with the U.S., but wants to help Mexico more.

00:49:18.820 But wants to help Mexico more than he wants to help Canada, because his loyalty is always

00:49:23.560 to foreigners first. 0.99

00:49:25.180 Well, you know, there's some truth to it, but I read today that someone who's familiar

00:49:29.540 with the facts, I just read this earlier today, that Trump privately made a concession to Trudeau,

00:49:38.640 agreed to give up the five-year review.

00:49:40.820 I didn't know that until today.

00:49:42.520 And so Trump left the G7 thinking, well, I just gave Trudeau something he wanted.

00:49:48.820 I'm being confidential about it.

00:49:51.380 I'm throwing him a bone.

00:49:52.860 I want some deals on Derriere Steel.

00:49:54.940 But Trump left the G7 thinking, I had a good talk with him.

00:49:59.860 I gave him something.

00:50:01.100 We'll get this tidied up.

00:50:02.760 So we didn't know that until today.

00:50:05.600 And so Trudeau goes out, tough guy, has a press conference when Trump's gone and says,

00:50:10.740 we're insulted and we're sick of being pushed around.

00:50:13.940 After Trump just made a private concession to him?

00:50:16.820 Yeah, no doubt that Trump lashed out on Twitter.

00:50:20.220 And I think it's a correct point that was made by one of Trump's advisors in the States that

00:50:25.260 right before this North Korea meeting, which was obviously the top of Trump's mind, to have

00:50:30.320 a negotiation get off the rails and to have Trump embarrassed that way, I'm absolutely

00:50:35.940 sure that was on Trump's mind.

00:50:37.980 I just hope we don't capture Trump's attention again.

00:50:40.860 Let him fix Iran and Mexico and China and North Korea. 0.96

00:50:44.960 I don't want him interacting with Trudeau anymore.

00:50:47.500 He'll wreck the country.

00:50:49.760 Ron writes, excellent interview with Manny.

00:50:52.500 Not taking Trump seriously will be the kiss of death to our economy.

00:50:55.540 Trump doesn't bluff.

00:50:57.000 Spread the word.

00:50:57.720 Trudeau and his cabal of anti-Canadian ministers have to go.

00:51:01.080 You know, we got so much positive feedback on that interview with Manny that we put the

00:51:05.080 whole thing up online for free outside the paywall.

00:51:08.040 I do that about once a month, right?

00:51:10.340 Actually, I haven't done it in a while.

00:51:12.520 I want to keep the good stuff for you guys who pay the eight bucks a month subscription

00:51:15.840 fee.

00:51:16.280 Thank you.

00:51:17.460 But sometimes there's stuff that's just so good and hopefully that'll encourage people

00:51:20.500 to sign up.

00:51:23.460 Yeah, Manny was spot on.

00:51:24.600 Amy writes, Ezra Levant has full-on Trudeau derangement syndrome.

00:51:32.640 I don't know if I'm deranged.

00:51:34.280 I think that I'm calling it like I see it.

00:51:36.960 I criticize Andrew Scheer when I think he's wrong.

00:51:39.900 I criticize Jason Kenney when I think he's wrong.

00:51:43.340 They're conservatives mainly.

00:51:46.060 I think that there's a deficit of criticizing Trudeau.

00:51:49.400 I think you see that with so many stories.

00:51:51.360 The People Kind gaffe, the India fiasco, both of those were dominated by foreign media.

00:51:59.900 Canadian media are too big love with Trudeau.

00:52:01.900 You'll notice that other than the Sun newspaper, no one in Canada has written about the groping

00:52:08.960 incident with Trudeau back in the year 2000.

00:52:11.240 I haven't talked about it on my main show here.

00:52:13.440 I mentioned it on Twitter and in passing on my 12 noon show.

00:52:16.860 I'll do a proper show on it.

00:52:17.960 It's just been such huge news between the G7 and this Korea thing.

00:52:21.360 But all the tough stories about Justin Trudeau are written by Americans, Brits, or Australians.

00:52:28.340 The reason I tell you this is I believe that we here at The Rebel have a duty and an obligation

00:52:32.660 and a requirement to be critics of Trudeau because, number one, he's the most powerful

00:52:36.240 politician in the country.

00:52:37.560 And number two, the rest of the media is sleeping.

00:52:39.840 They're not watchdogs.

00:52:40.740 They're lapdogs. 0.52

00:52:42.620 Eric writes,

00:52:43.340 While the leadership is busy posturing and chest beating, it is real people and their

00:52:47.780 jobs that will pay the price.

00:52:49.440 Yeah, I just don't understand.

00:52:50.540 I read today that the average Quebec dairy farmer has a net worth of $3.7 million.

00:52:55.520 So these are not poor family farms.

00:52:59.840 These are industrial farms that have dairy quotas as like a stock, like an investment.

00:53:08.620 These aren't just, you know, ma and pa milking a cow or two.

00:53:13.000 These are serious businesses that have powerful lobbies.

00:53:17.300 And that's one of the things that is getting in the way of a free trade deal with the states.

00:53:21.840 We all know we've got to get rid of these dairy cartels.

00:53:24.360 There's no reason to prop up this elite industry.

00:53:27.400 Agriculture does it just fine in Canada, the ones that don't have these marketing boards.

00:53:32.080 And I think we've got to give it up.

00:53:33.580 And I think a smart negotiator, if you're trying to think like a Trump, you'd say,

00:53:37.240 Well, why don't I bargain away the dairy cartel to Trump?

00:53:40.220 Get a concession from Trump in return because he's trying to make things fairer for those

00:53:44.300 Wisconsin dairies.

00:53:45.560 So give the dairy cartels up to Trump.

00:53:48.180 Get something in return from Trump.

00:53:49.780 And the secret is you actually wanted to get rid of the dairy cartels.

00:53:53.480 You just didn't want to spend the political capital doing it.

00:53:55.960 So now you can say, I had to do it to get the deal with America.

00:53:58.960 So you're actually getting two wins.

00:54:01.400 You're not even trading with Trump.

00:54:03.300 The thing you're trading away to him is the thing you want to get rid of anyways.

00:54:07.080 That's how a negotiator would work for truth.

00:54:09.860 Yeah, he can't even negotiate a pipeline through Canada when he has constitutional jurisdiction.

00:54:16.100 A guy who gets taken to the cleaners by Bombardier and John Horgan of B.C.

00:54:21.660 Yeah, he's not really up for negotiating with Donald Trump, is he?

00:54:24.620 Who knows?

00:54:25.040 Maybe Donald Trump should do a special movie just for Justin Trudeau.

00:54:29.180 I don't know.

00:54:29.480 Maybe something like a puppet show or something to get through.

00:54:33.440 That's the show for today.

00:54:34.560 What do you think of that special movie for Kim Jong-un?

00:54:38.120 I've watched it three times.

00:54:39.400 I'm fascinated by it.

00:54:40.700 Let me know what you think.

00:54:41.540 Give me your feedback.

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00:54:44.400 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - June 13, 2018

Ezra Levant Show June 12 2018

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