David Horowitz joins us via Skype to talk about the David Horowitz Freedom Center, his work, and the ninth volume of his series called The Black Book of the American Left. David also talks about his new book, The Ninth and Final Volume of his authoritative work, Black Book Of The American Left .
00:01:30.980And there's a dramatic chapter in the book about how Soros actually uses violence to foment revolutions in other countries in the world and what that means for America.
00:01:41.320As with so many such books, even the most researched, they're ignored by the mainstream who either don't put in the effort to do the research themselves or more often support the radical goals of the left.
00:02:02.000And so he built a war machine for conservatives called the David Horowitz Freedom Center with everything from campus groups to conservative conferences to alternative media outlets.
00:02:11.940It's a battle group and it's Trumpy, as in it's not a dainty group of elite Republicans in name only.
00:02:20.260I had the chance to catch up with David via Skype.
00:02:22.880I apologize, the Skype connection wasn't the best, but we proceeded with the interview nonetheless because I thought it was interesting enough.
00:02:31.800We also talk about his new book, of course, the ninth and final volume of his authoritative Black Book of the American Left.
00:02:39.060Here is my full interview with David Horowitz.
00:02:52.880Well, when someone has an entire Freedom Center named after them, you know you're talking to an intellectual leader, and that is our guest now, who for decades has fought the fight against the American Left.
00:03:12.160And he used to come from the left, which is, I think, why he's not only so passionate, but so skillful.
00:03:18.660He knows their secrets, how they think, where the bodies are buried.
00:03:22.620Maybe not literally the bodies they're buried, but he knows there are bodies.
00:03:26.020I'm talking about David Horowitz, who's the boss of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
00:03:30.320And he joins us now via Skype to talk about the Freedom Center, his work, and the ninth volume of his series called The Black Book of the American Left.
00:03:40.320David, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.
00:03:45.300We met very briefly last year at the Restoration Weekend that you hosted in Florida, which is a large conference of conservative thinkers and activists.
00:03:56.420A lot of our fan favorites were there, from Ann Coulter to Mark Stein.
00:04:01.400Of course, a lot of American congressmen.
00:06:13.540We truly are a fraction, a fraction of the size of the activist left.
00:06:18.500Well, first of all, the reason that they're not noticed or identified as leftist is because they are the media.
00:06:29.120And the second reason is that Republicans are lame when it comes to political warfare.
00:06:35.100So for a good 20 years, I was frustrated by Republicans referring to people whose ideas are indistinguishable from that, really, of the Communist Party, if you update it.
00:06:49.900I'm speaking of Democrats as liberals.
00:06:54.120People who call themselves liberals are vindictive bigots.
00:06:58.040There's nothing liberal about them except their attitudes towards, you know, coddling criminals, sympathizing with America's enemies, spending other people's money, and so forth.
00:08:49.100They're all social justice warriors, which means they want to use the power of the government to pick the pockets of people that they don't like and give the money to people who will support them.
00:09:45.820But they do, because it's a left-wing media that we have to deal with and a polite Republican opposition.
00:09:53.260Jordan Peterson, the professor from the University of Toronto, who's been on such a successful tour lately, talking about political correctness, he says that liberals need to reclaim their side of the spectrum from the leftist authoritarians.
00:10:13.380Are there any such common-sense liberals who would be truly moderate and believe in American values, but just have a more, you know, be one standard deviation to your left, as opposed to all the way over the spectrum?
00:10:32.380Is there any liberals left, or is it all just conservatives and leftists now?
00:10:41.760And I think if the Democratic Party lost big enough electorally in the next two elections, there are some sensible Democrats.
00:10:54.580But, you know, I don't have a lot of respect for them because they're going along with this incredible, seditious, treasonous effort to destroy the presidency of Donald Trump, who was legitimately elected.
00:11:09.920To deny him, to deny him, his legitimacy.
00:11:13.960And how many members of the Democratic Party did not support the treasonous Iran deal, which, you know, lifted the sanctions from a Nazi regime whose leaders openly wanted to destroy us, death to America.
00:11:33.740I understand what Jordan Peterson is coming from.
00:11:35.740I think he's a tremendous asset to me.
00:11:39.380It's sort of the same Western culture from the enemies.
00:11:44.460But I think he's being overly optimistic.
00:11:48.460Or it's just, you know, it's protective to support liberalism because the left dominates the culture and has made a perverse version of liberalism, you know, the respected feud.
00:12:06.180I think Jordan Peterson has given me some hope because what I've seen, I mean, I'm based here in Toronto, so I saw him in before he really broke through internationally.
00:12:17.800And I see that he really flipped the light switch on for a lot of students, casual students, undergrads, but also grad students, other professors.
00:12:28.100So I see his message is having a widespread retail impact, let's say.
00:12:33.180But also he's creating mini-me's, people who say, well, if Jordan Peterson can do that, I can do that.
00:12:40.440But I'm a professor, I'm a master student, I'm a grad student, whatever.
00:12:53.860And there are lots of people who are not ideological.
00:12:58.680And what they haven't heard before, I mean, the Jordan Peterson phenomenon, it's like the Trump phenomenon.
00:13:06.180And, you know, there are others, like Candace Owens and Dave Rubin and so forth.
00:13:11.800And then there's a willingness to actually confront the left.
00:13:17.320I think Dave Rubin has the term, they're regressive progressives or whatever, regressive liberalism, he calls it.
00:13:26.200Whereas I said it was reactionary, it's just the same thing.
00:13:31.260But until the advent of Trump, there have been very few people on the right who are willing to confront the leftist threat for what it is and call it by its proper names.
00:13:45.640The Democratic Party controls every inner city of size in America, every killing field.
00:13:52.700Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore, Washington, D.C.
00:14:01.420I mean, they're monopoly control for 50 to 100 years.
00:14:05.920So every atrocity that the inner city commits against poor people or black people or Hispanic people, every failed school that year in and year out,
00:14:17.680you just can't predict it because it's always the same, 40% of the kids don't graduate and 40% of those who do are functionally illiterate.
00:14:27.140Every oppression, every injustice in the inner city, Democrats, progressives, leftists, liberals, whatever you want to call them, are 100% responsible for.
00:14:40.280But you never hear a Republican say that.
00:15:19.580Think of the second presidential debate.
00:15:23.220You know, in front of 70 million television viewers, Trump looked Hillary Clinton in the eye and said,
00:15:29.340you are a liar and a crook, which she is both.
00:15:33.100But there's not another conservative or Republican would ever have said that to her because she's a woman and they're deferential towards women.
00:15:42.420So the deference towards women allows her to be vicious, criminal and get away with it because she's a woman.
00:15:54.960Well, I think Trump has, you know, broken that mold.
00:16:01.060And that gives me great hope for the future.
00:16:03.940You know, things that were supposed to be impossible.
00:16:06.820I mentioned the U.N. and global warming, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, a small matter, but something people were terrified of, taking on.
00:16:16.000I mean, it's it's he really reminds me of the emperor has no clothes, no clothes child, just saying, well, I'm going to say what everybody knows, but no one has had the courage.
00:17:55.320They haven't had a new idea since 1848, but they managed to be competitive because they're so vicious and people get out of their way.
00:18:06.400And I'm not suggesting that conservatives become leftists, but I'd like to see them maybe 10 or 20 percent more aggressive and in your face.
00:18:18.220And unapologetic, that would be extremely helpful.
00:18:22.440So what we've done, you know, we've always called the left the left at the Freedom Center.
00:18:28.340And we were kind of Trumpians before Trump.
00:19:32.000And, you know, I see that it has a lot of admirers and followers in the world.
00:19:43.380But so far, there's no state really like America that's built on these principles.
00:19:50.400Well, listen, it's great to catch up with you.
00:19:52.260I appreciate you Skyping to us from your home.
00:19:55.100We'll keep watching the Horowitz Freedom Center and your many projects.
00:19:58.360And hopefully I'll be able to join you again at Restoration Weekend.
00:20:02.800First of all, I have a website at blackbookoftheamericanleft.com.
00:20:08.540And you can see all the volumes, all the tables of contents, all the introductions, which really describe the books.
00:20:16.700And all the reviews, or a lot of the reviews, are all up at blackbookoftheamericanleft.com.
00:20:23.740And this volume, the final one, is about the two ideas that have ruled Western history for the last 200 years.
00:20:30.740And one of them is the American idea of individual freedom, individual liberty, individual accountability.
00:20:38.480That, in the words of Martin Luther King, we strive to judge people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin or their gender or orientation.
00:20:49.980And the other idea is that communist idea, Marxist idea, it's called identity politics, it's racist.
00:20:57.740And it insists on judging people first by the color of their skin or their gender or their sexual orientation.
00:21:06.980And it has a view of the world that it's divided into oppressors and oppressed, takes away the agency and ability to make choices of the victim groups who are all people of color and women.
00:21:43.240We don't say, here's a box of crayons of color.
00:21:45.740It was invented by radicals to divide the world into the bad people who are white and straight and male, the evil people, and the victim people who are people of color.
00:22:00.540But there is no such group of people of color with a common interest.
00:22:05.280You know, if you think there is, tell that to the Rwandans, where the Hutus, who are black, massacred a million Tutsis who are also black.
00:22:18.560So the oppressive group was black and the victim group was black.
00:22:23.100But people's brains have been clued up by this ideology.
00:23:43.680And this woman is suing Starbucks because, of course, the owner of Starbucks wants to run as a Democrat.
00:23:52.520And it's got to pay obeisance to this racist ideology of identity politics.
00:23:59.980Because he made it into a racial incident by having, you know, this stupid training, this diversity trainers.
00:24:11.700They make fortunes over teaching nonsense and racism, basically, to teach people about their unconscious bias.
00:24:25.420The left doesn't even have racists that it can go to war against.
00:24:29.940So we're always talking about institutional racism, which is outlawed and doesn't exist.
00:24:35.380And systemic racism, which is another mythology.
00:24:38.500This book I've done, Ruling Ideas, is largely a critique of Marxism.
00:24:47.580But it also has a chapter called America's Civil War.
00:24:51.800And the reason we're in a civil war is because you can't have two competing ideologies.
00:24:56.920One which is racist, which is the Democrats and the liberals, so-called, and the left.
00:25:02.760And one which is individual-centered and says you judge people for who they are, not for where they came from or what the color of their skin is.
00:25:16.100Now, I'll tell you, the left is going to lose this because by now in America, virtually every family has a black member, a Hispanic member, an Asian member, a gay member, and so forth.
00:25:31.320So this straw man that they're beating up, these racist, old-right, neo-Nazis, it's such a pitiful minority that they don't even exert any influence in the culture.
00:25:50.840Hmm. Well, this has been fascinating, and I look forward to reading it.
00:25:55.560The ninth edition, the ninth volume of the Black Book of the American Left is called Ruling Ideas.
00:26:01.340And we'll put that website link under the video for people can go directly there.
00:26:06.180As you say, check out the tables of contents and order the book.