Ezra Levant Show May 15 2018
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Summary
A routine speeding ticket leads to a false accusation of racism. I'll show you the video. Why should others go to jail when you won't give them an answer? You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior? The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
Transcript
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Tonight, a routine speeding ticket leads to a false accusation of racism.
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It's May 15th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
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They're from the state of Virginia, but really, they could be from anywhere in Canada,
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This is the first video that was published to the Internet,
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but I'm actually going to show it to you second.
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It's a woman driving in her car after receiving a speeding ticket.
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It has received hundreds of thousands of views.
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Actually, it's been uploaded in various parts of the Internet,
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so I imagine that amongst all the different places it's been seen,
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Normally, such body camera videos are not released to the public,
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but the police department decided to do so to rebut the first one.
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But I'm going to show them to you in chronological order as they were filmed,
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as in I'm going to show you the police officer's body cam to show you what happened,
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then I'll play you excerpts of the woman's selfie video afterwards.
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the only thing I'm cutting out are the uneventful parts
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and then he types in the computer and he writes up a ticket in silence.
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So I'm going to skip that just because it's two minutes of wasted time.
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Other than that, I am not editing out a single second.
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This was the full tape of the entire interaction.
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including the time the cop was back in his car writing the ticket.
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So the interaction with the woman in question is much shorter.
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So the video starts with the cop in his car by himself.
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He just pulled over and he's about to get out to talk to the driver.
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Just need to see your driver's license and your vehicle registration.
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The reason I'm stopping you, I clocked you at 170.
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Just hold tight for a quick moment and I'll be right back.
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Okay, so he sits down in his car and he does what cops do in their car for a few minutes.
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Writes up a ticket, checks the computer to see, I don't know, if there's any outstanding
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And both sides were friendly enough, no rude words, no hostility, and just to point out
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the obvious, nothing racist in any way or sexist or transphobic or Islamophobic or any
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It was just a cop pulling over a speeder, going 70 in a 55-mile-an-hour zone.
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The cop starts out by saying, good afternoon, and he identifies himself by name and title
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And the woman, her name is Dawn Hilton Williams, well, she was friendly enough.
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In fact, the first thing she said was, how are you?
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It's ridiculous to point this out, but I'm just saying it was friendly enough.
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I mean, no one likes to be pulled over for speeding.
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I'm not even sure if police like doing traffic duty, but going 70 in a 55 zone, it's more
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He sits there for three minutes to write up the ticket and check the police computer, and
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The total time of the second interaction, and that's the final interaction, is three minutes
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What I have here for you, it is a traffic summons for Brunson County General...
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Yes, for Brunson County General District Traffic Court.
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I'll show you the rest in a second, but did you notice he calls her ma'am?
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They're just a little more polite, and saying ma'am and sir is just a little more normal in
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But my point is, the cop was showing enough respect to the speeder.
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And I say again, not a drop of racism, sexism, or any other ism.
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Sort of obvious, but I want to point that out for later.
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Your court date is going to be June the 6th at 1030 for the 70 and a 55 mile per hour
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Where is the sign that says it's 55 miles an hour?
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I mean, between the gas station I just came from, right here?
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I mean, numerous, numerous places back that way.
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You're more than welcome to go back there and look at them.
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I mean, take pictures of them, whatever you want to do.
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So you didn't give me a warning, you gave me an actual ticket?
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So your court date is going to be June the 6th at 1030 for the speeding of 70 and a 55.
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If you have the option to prepay this, I'm going to give you a phone number plus a website
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If you contact our courts, they will tell you what the fine is, answer any one of your
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questions, and if you decide to prepay it, then you do not have to come to court.
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But if you want to prepay it, if you don't want to prepay it, then you have to come to
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Okay, now, this is not an enjoyable conversation.
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I notice that he keeps saying, ma'am, ma'am, so he's staying cordial.
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But look, that's what getting a ticket is like.
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She asks for a warning instead of a ticket, and he says, no, sorry, and he keeps on going.
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Then she's starting to get a bit more defensive.
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He tells her she can pay the ticket or fight the ticket, which sounds legally correct to
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And he asks her to sign the ticket, but she objects.
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You never have to sign anything someone puts to you, including a police officer.
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But here's why the cop asked her or really told her to sign it, because it's her promise
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to either pay the ticket or fight the ticket in court, as opposed to just driving away and
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Because if you recall, she said she was from South Carolina, and this was in the Commonwealth
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So what you're signing here is a promise to either come to court or a promise to prepay.
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It's only a promise to me that you're going to get it taken care of by either coming to
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If you refuse to sign the summons at this point, I'm going to have to get you out the
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I'm going to place you under arrest and take you in front of a mad shirt.
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I will get your vehicle towed and go from there.
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You do not have a choice but to sign the summons.
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Now, that last part wasn't too friendly, was it?
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If she didn't promise to either pay the ticket or promise to come back to court,
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court to fight the ticket, those are basically your two options, he would have to arrest her
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and bring her to the magistrate, the judge, right then and there.
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Let me quote him verbatim because this part is important.
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So what you are signing here is a promise to either come to court or promise to prepay, prepay.
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It's only a promise to me that you're going to get it taken care of by either coming to court or prepaying it.
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If you refuse to sign the summons at this point, I'm going to have to get you out of the side of the police car,
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place you under arrest, and take you in front of a magistrate.
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I will get your vehicle towed and go from there.
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She could go before a judge right then and there.
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But that's a bit insane, don't you think, to be arrested, have your car towed, and taken immediately to the judge.
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Now, I don't know if you heard her in the middle of that.
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My cousin's on the phone, so I guess this whole conversation was on speakerphone or something with her cousin.
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Now, could he have had a better bedside manner?
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But that's the thing for doctors, not for cops.
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The total time in their interaction was actually only a few minutes, plus a few minutes of the cop in his own police car.
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But being pulled over for speeding is never fun.
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Now, obviously that video was filmed in real time during the arrest, but it was not obviously broadcast.
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Police body cams are not broadcast to the public.
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They're kept for various good reasons, including to assure no police brutality.
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I bet they make cops be just a little bit better behaved because they know everything they do or say can be reviewed by their superiors.
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Or a hostile media or a lawyer for a hostile criminal or accused.
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Now, I'm no police chief, but I'd say the officer did fine.
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But I don't know if he was just having a bad day.
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But look at what that lady did right afterwards.
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She got on her phone and she did a Facebook video live stream broadcast to her Facebook page right there.
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It was 11 minutes long, which was several times longer than her entire interaction with the cop.
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I'm not going to show you all 11 minutes of it.
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But I did show you every single minute of the interaction with the cop.
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And I say again that her side of the story was the one that the public saw and heard first.
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I'm going to play the first four minutes of her tape.
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It's four minutes long, but I want you to watch it.
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I promise I won't make you listen to the whole 11 minutes.
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I typically would not drive and do a FaceTime video.
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I have to look at something to tell you what town I'm in in Virginia.
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I think Suffolk County or some town in Virginia.
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And I just was threatened by this police officer.
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And I want all of my African Americans and people of color that are out there are going to know exactly what I'm talking about.
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It's right off in between Virginia as you go to Richmond.
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It's a cut through between Norfolk and Richmond.
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And I want the people who are not African American, who know me, to really get where we're coming from.
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Every time, when I saw the police pull up behind me, the state trooper, I was immediately afraid.
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And I had her on speaker because I was on Bluetooth.
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You know, we shouldn't be afraid to drive and get pulled over by the police.
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And I'm telling you, I showed him my license, asked him why I was stopped.
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And he said that I was going 70 and a 65 or 60 and something like some kind of small difference.
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And so I'm in the middle of a rural little town.
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And I'm sorry that I'm upset, but I don't get upset too much.
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I'm 50, but in my day, I would say, I did a lot of protesting and a lot of fighting just so things like this would not happen to us.
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But I get pulled over by this white cop who said he sergeant somebody.
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And he told me the 7 mile an hour difference, or whatever this was, and the speed difference.
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No traffic signs by the time I had stopped at a convenience store to get a banana.
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And by the time I had gone to where he immediately pulled me over when he saw me, I gave him my license registration for the rental car that I'm driving.
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My daughter was playing tennis in the MIAC conference championship.
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I'm on the way back to Greenville, South Carolina.
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And when he comes back, he gives me the ticket.
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He said, well, you can go back and look for signs.
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He can't see that she's on the phone because it's on speaker on the chair.
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So he said, well, you'll need to sign this ticket.
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And I said, why would I need to sign the ticket?
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I said, I won't be signing the ticket, but I'll take the ticket.
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I'm not going to put my signature on that ticket.
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And he said, well, if you don't put the signature on this ticket, I'll pull you out of the car.
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And then I'll arrest you and I'll impound the car.
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So my cousin immediately puts her voice from the seat that says, don't I sign the ticket?
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Because my natural instinct for anybody who knows me knows that I do not like to be told what to do.
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So I went ahead and signed the ticket only because I was immediately afraid.
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And he looked like he was ready for me to pull me out of the car.
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He didn't say, I'll ask you to step out of the car.
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He said, I'll pull you out of the car and I'll arrest you and I'll impound your car.
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Now, her recitation of the facts here are sort of close.
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I note she claimed she was only going 60, not 70.
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She said she, at another point, that she was going seven miles an hour over the limit, not the 15 the cop said.
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Maybe it's easy to get that wrong, but the cop was pretty clear about it, was surely on the ticket.
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I wonder if that was a mistake or deliberate, because if you're pulled over for a trifle for five miles an hour over the limit,
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well, then maybe it really was racism, as opposed to if she had said, I was going 70 in a 55 zone.
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For Canadians who follow kilometers, that would be like going 115 kilometers an hour in a 90 zone.
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And all of a sudden, it would look like you're actually a speeder.
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Now, she said that the cop threatened to pull her out of the car.
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If you refuse to sign the summons at this point, I'm going to have to get you out of the side of this car.
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I'm going to place you under arrest and take you in front of the mad shirt.
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I will get your vehicle towed and go from there.
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He didn't say he'd pull her, which suggests that he would rough her up or physically grab her.
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He said he'd get her outside the car and get her to the judge.
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But again, that slight change in wording, close to the truth but not the truth.
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And that difference, well, it's pretty important, isn't it?
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If you're claiming you're terrified, if you're in tears, if you're mentioning race again and again and again,
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a white cop, I'm black, white, black, white, black.
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She's crying, which suggests that she had been terrorized by a thug, which suggests that she really had been threatened with violence, perhaps.
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But in fact, she just got a ticket from a cop who wasn't fooling around or debating but was still saying, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
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This was a special message for her black friends and her white friends.
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And it's a teachable moment for white people to learn what we go through.
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Okay, I'm not going to play the whole of the rest of you.
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Just a few short clips because she's really working herself up into a frenzy here.
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And remember, she's doing this right after the incident.
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She's going live on Facebook from her cell phone in her car.
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It was only days later that the police department released his raw footage to disprove her allegations.
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This was the first the world had heard about this encounter was her Facebook Live.
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But do you see this woman's allegations diverging from the truth?
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She's getting herself more and more revved up, isn't she?
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Now, to be clear, she's saying it was racist and that it was a threat of physically being pulled out of the car.
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And he said, so then I signed, then Petrie said, sign a ticket.
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So I went, you know, and he said, well, I don't care.
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This is where even in today's day, you'd be Freddie Gray.
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But, um, I was literally afraid that he was going to pull me out of the car, impound my car, and I'd be Sandra Bland.
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Now, why do, do, why, do any of my white friends know me ever, do anybody ever feel like that when they get pulled over?
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Do they, are they afraid that they're never going to come home or see anybody else?
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Because if they don't, because the police are at the door saying, I'm going to pull you out of the car, have, does anybody, why do only African Americans and people of color know what I'm going through right now?
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Is it true that only African Americans feel that way?
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And don't like the idea that if you refuse to pay the ticket or promise to attend court that you might have to go to see a judge right away?
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I'd feel a little bit sick about it, too, a little bit, but I wouldn't call it, I don't know, anti-Semitism just because I'm Jewish or anti-male sexism just because I'm a man or anti-right-handed or something.
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I'd say, yeah, it's because I was speeding and then I tried to talk back a bit to a cop.
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I showed you every second of the police interaction, there was not a word about race or sex or anything.
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She's the one who's talking about race and talking about slavery?
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She's talking about slavery to get out of a ticket.
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Sorry, lady, you're the racist blaming the white cop and implying that people in rural parts are all slave owner descendants.
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You're the one demeaning the history of slavery by invoking it to save yourself a hundred bucks for speeding.
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The only reason I was able to even, and then I sat there, I couldn't even, I signed a ticket and he said, I knew you'd do the right thing.
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And then he padded the side of the car and he said, have a great day.
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It was a very controlling, bullying experience.
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And no one should threaten to pull me out of a car just because I haven't signed a ticket, because I have a right not to sign the ticket.
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I didn't say I wasn't going to comply, so I don't think I need to sign that ticket.
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Just to say it again, the rules seemed pretty clear to me.
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She was from South Carolina, just passing through Virginia.
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So if she didn't promise to pay the ticket or promise to come back and fight the ticket, she would be arrested and taken to a judge right there and then.
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But then don't speed through that county or just take your lumps and pay the ticket or just say you'll come back later.
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I don't think only black speeders are told that.
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But she really warmed to her theme, didn't she?
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She keeps saying he threatened to pull her out.
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I think she must have said the word pull at least 20 times in her rant.
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Anyway, for me to sign that ticket or he's going to pull me out of the car.
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I never said I wouldn't have stepped out of the car willingly.
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And he just walked off, the bully that he was, proudly, happily, like he had accomplished something,
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by degrading me as an African-American, as a citizen.
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He can pull me out of the car if he wants, whether I'm doing something or not.
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Whenever he wants, he can impound the car and I can be Sandra Bland.
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Sandra Bland, if you don't know, was a black woman who was arrested on a traffic stop.
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By the way, by a Hispanic cop, if that matters.
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And I guess in this game of race card playing, it does matter.
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A rule of suicide by investigators, but that was disputed by political activists.
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My point is, do you think the traffic stop that you just watched, that three-minute interaction,
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do you think that was actually just one step away from her being found dead in a jail cell?
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I just, I just wish I knew what we could do about this.
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It happens every day, thousands of times a day.
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It actually does happen thousands of times a day.
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Thousands of times a day, speeders are pulled over all across America.
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And pretty much anywhere where there's the rule of law on highways, it is true.
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And if you don't like it, and very few of us do like it, then don't speed.
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She actually was polite enough in the interaction with the cop.
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Her first comment was asking him how he was doing.
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But then she said that the cop was sick and crazy and a bully.
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But more importantly, she whips the world into a frenzy with her false accusations of racism,
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You saw the full tape of what actually happened.
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I showed it to you first, which is the opposite of how most of the world saw it.
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And then maybe some of them saw the truth come out later in the body cam video.
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How many people only saw her video and think that racist traffic cops really are prowling
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the highways of Virginia looking to kill or enslave black motorists?
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How much more hate and distrust was just sown between blacks and cops?
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This liar, this drama queen, this huckster, this hoaxer?
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If there is a claim of racism or sexism or Islamophobia, I want to see proof.
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I want to see the whole video before I believe it.
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Whether it's a young girl in Toronto lying about a Chinese man cutting her hijab outside her school,
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that liar, or this new liar in Virginia, I just don't believe it anymore.
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And I sure don't believe our white liberal media that's only too quick to put the false allegations on the air
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and then are slow, if ever, to correct the lies because they love, love the narrative too much,
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the narrative that we are all evil, violent racists, even if it never actually happened.
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Eric, did you know that every day at 12 noon Eastern Time, which is 10 a.m. Mountain Time, 9 a.m. Pacific Time,
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It's a way to talk to people who are YouTube subscribers but not yet subscribers to this, our premium show.
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I just show a few clips and chit-chat, and mainly I take comments from the general public about any subjects of the day.
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If you want to ask me questions in real time, I encourage you to do that.
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And one of the things we talked about today at some length was the deliberate response by the Hamas terrorist group in Gaza
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to try to detract from, jump on the media coverage of Donald Trump's decision to move the U.S. Embassy to Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
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It was a mass riot on the international border.
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Israel and Gaza, of course, are no longer the same country.
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Gaza used to be part of Israel, but then Ariel Sharon forcibly removed every Israeli citizen and soldier.
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It's an international border, obviously, with a terrorist state, and Hamas basically sent hundreds, thousands of people to the border to infiltrate.
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Some of them were armed with bombs or Molotov cocktails.
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Others got caught up in it, were civilians, but many were terrorists.
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Anyway, that dominated the press in the anti-Israel segment of the media, which is by far the majority,
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including in Israel enough, if you read the Twitter stream of Haaretz, which is the leading liberal paper there,
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it was almost completely demonizing Trump and blaming Israel for the riots on its Gaza border.
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Israeli border police responded to the infiltration attempts by shooting the infiltrators, killing dozens.
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We don't know quite how many because you can't trust Hamas when they say it was 55.
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Let me show you a clip of how Nikki Haley, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, handled that Hamas outrage.
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Today's meeting was called to discuss the violence that some suggest was connected with yesterday's opening of the United States Embassy in Jerusalem.
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For some people, the embassy opening is said to be a reason to engage in violence.
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As our president said when he announced the decision in December,
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the location of our embassy has no bearing on the specific boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem
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It does not prejudge whatever the parties might negotiate in a peace agreement.
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It does not undermine the prospects for peace in any way.
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She went on on some length, and as you can see, she's at the United Nations,
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where a list of countries, mainly dictatorships, have decided to condemn Israel for shooting back at its international border.
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Let me ask you, how would the United States respond if a thousand armed protesters from ISIS came up from Mexico?
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Well, joining us now to talk about this violent riot at the border and the American reaction to it is our friend Tiffany Gabay.
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She used to host Culture Wars in The Rebel, and now she is our managing editor.
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No, I was going to say, like the rest of us, we were watched, we were gripped by this historic decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem.
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I call it historic because that is the natural capital of Israel, not just the modern state, but in biblical times.
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I think the leftist anti-Israel media was desperate for any excuse to rain on the parade, and they found it from Hamas, didn't they?
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Now, I mean, this was an incredibly redemptive moment for the Jewish people or anyone who supports Israel.
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Of course, Jerusalem is and should be the undivided and eternal capital of the Jewish state.
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And there are historical grounds for that, legal grounds for that, strategic reasons for that.
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I mean, we have to remember what happens when Israelis are not in control, right?
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It's not like, you know, anyone can go and pray at Al-Aqsa.
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You know, this is not an enlightened or, you know, people who are embracing of different cultures.
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The Christians and the Christian holy sites are protected when Jews are in control of them and not so when it comes to the Arabs.
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But, of course, Nikki Haley and President Trump and our current administration have done more for Israel in just the last few months, in the last year, than all other administrations combined.
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And, of course, not including the most recent administration, which is the most destructive.
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But of all the pro-Israel presidents and administrations, the Trump administration has been absolutely incredible.
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I think the move of the embassy is symbolic because it's an affirmation that Israel is a sovereign state.
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And the greatest power in the world is affirming that obvious fact that others can deny.
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But it's sort of an emperor has no clothes moment.
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You can keep saying that Israel is not real, but it's been around for 70 years.
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But I think, actually, Donald Trump abandoning Barack Obama's personal agreement with the Ayatollahs of Iran is actually far more substantive because Iran, like many Muslim countries, wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
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But unlike the others, it is actually energetically building a nuclear bomb and missile program to do that.
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And, by the way, threatening America, Europe, and other Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia in the bargain.
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I think Trump ripping away that Obama deal and without any nuance or hesitation, just saying, I'm out of it, that's probably the, that could be the most important move America makes in the region.
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Let me throw one more in because there's actually others.
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And Trump's refusal to be held hostage by the perennial Palestinian demands and negotiations.
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I think his pushing the Palestinian issue to the back burner, his dealing with Iran, I think that's actually the most important thing Trump has done in the region.
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And in dealing with Iran, he is dealing with the Palestinians and their proxies.
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You know, you've got Hamas, you have Hezbollah, you have basically Iran looking to destabilize the entire region and supporting terror in that region against Israelis and against Americans.
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So it is absolutely one of the most critical moves that he's done to try to bring some stability back to that region.
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It's just literally one of the most subversive rags, as I call it.
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They had a headline the other day saying that Bibi and Trump lit the fire now with this embassy move.
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And are we going to watch the Middle East burn?
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Think about what Obama did, overthrowing Mubarak or aiding the ouster of Mubarak in Egypt.
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Gaddafi in Libya, allowing those two countries to fall, Egypt to fall to the Muslim Brotherhood,
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and Libya basically to burn down, to allow what has gone on in Syria,
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for Hezbollah to increase its stranglehold in Lebanon, to not aid the Iranian dissidents in Iran.
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And Obama doused the entire region in kerosene and lit a match and watch it burn.
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And now Trump is really, you know, he's got his work cut out for him.
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They are the largest state sponsor of terror in the world.
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And so this has been a very, very monumental, you know, last few days and weeks with, you know,
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nixing the Iran deal, moving our embassy to Jerusalem, that incredible intel operation that Israel pulled off
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with regard to gaining all of that intelligence on Iran's nuclear aspirations and its project.
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And what is so disheartening is that in spite of all of that information, in spite of the fact that we have proof,
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we see the photos and the footage, right, of, you know, tens of thousands of Palestinians
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who are mobilized by Hamas, funded by Iran, to breach Israel's border, using the pretext of the embassy,
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because it's because the terror tunnels aren't working and they're just doing whatever they can to breach Israel's border,
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sending Palestinians to their death with meat cleavers, burning tires, Molotov cocktails,
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actual bombs and explosive devices that they planted, wire cutters, kites with swastikas on them,
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launching firebombs and burning down fields, in many cases, their own fields and infrastructure.
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Despite all of that, you have the liberal media.
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You have the mainstream media, not just liberal media, unfortunately, not even reporting on this
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and making it seem as if people in Gaza are just these victims who are being slaughtered and mowed down by Israelis.
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Even South Africa recalled its ambassador and insisted that Israel withdraw from Gaza.
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They destroyed all the infrastructure that Israel left in place for them to make a better life for Palestinians.
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So it is so clear and obvious what is going on and who is on the right side of good.
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And yet, despite all that, despite all the information we're privy to,
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it just shows not one congressional Democrat, you know, turned up at that embassy opening.
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You know, all of our mainstream media outlets are condemning Israel.
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So anyone who says anti-Semitism isn't alive and well is kidding themselves.
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This is just the latest and newest incarnation of it.
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I was truly surprised that not even Democrats from Jewish districts would go.
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Not even Chuck Schumer, the Jewish senator from heavily Jewish New York State.
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The only Jewish Democrat was a retired Democrat, Joe Lieberman, who was there.
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It's truth to me that the Democrats in the U.S. are going the way of the British Labor Party
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They're just plain old anti-Israel and moving from anti-Israel to anti-Jewish.
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I put this to Joel Pollack, our friend at Breitbart.com.
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I see images from Israel that are very pro-Trump.
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Trump is popular in the streets, popular in the polls, and I can understand why.
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But do you sense any movement towards the Republicans amongst American Jews?
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In Canada, let me just preface it, Jews were traditionally liberal.
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But when Stephen Harper was the prime minister, the Jewish vote finally woke up and said,
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Harper is a friend of the Jews, he's a friend of Israel, he's a friend of Western values.
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And by the time Harper was done, he got a majority of the Jewish vote, not all of it.
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From what I can see, American Jews still vote 70%, 80% for Democrats.
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Are they still going to insult Donald Trump for aesthetic reasons and turn their nose up
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Yes, unfortunately, we don't see that shift here in the U.S.
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At least 70% still vote Democrats, still consider themselves liberal.
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And the derangement with regard to Trump is so severe that even if they were moved,
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even just a little bit, to want to support an actual pro-Israel president,
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they won't do it specifically because it's Trump.
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And they don't seem to recognize the intellectual inconsistency.
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They will sit there and, you know, scream about the alt-right and about how Trump is a
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Nazi and the internment camps are, you know, being built as we speak.
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And, you know, at the first sign of a more traditional anti-Semitic trope being espoused,
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like Abbas did recently, well, you know, the gloves come off.
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The ADL gets out and all these left-wing Jews come out and they, you know,
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But actually supporting Israel, the only safe haven in the world for Jews escaping anti-Semitism
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and persecution and death and destruction, that they cannot support, that they cannot
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get on board with, because that doesn't gain them any cocktail party thread.
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It's okay to condemn traditional anti-Semitic tropes.
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It's okay to, you know, call out the alt-right or say that Trump is a Nazi.
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And yet he's the most pro-Israel in terms of his actual action.
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And their derangement and really seething hatred for Trump will just not allow themselves
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His generosity towards him, I mean, he does it for his own reasons.
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But it's, I tell you, the Jews are lucky to have an ally like him.
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And Israelis, it sounds like you're getting it.
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Thanks for taking the time to be with us today.
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The Rebel's managing editor, joining us via Skype.
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Well, Kinder Morgan, the company that owns the Trans Mountain Pipeline and has an approved
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proposal to expand the pipeline, approved by the National Energy Board and by Justin Trudeau's
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They say that if they don't have a clear sign that the project will, in fact, proceed by
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the end of May, which is, what, just two weeks and a bit away, they're going to cancel
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the project right off the billion dollars they've spent and go home, take their billions
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This is a project worth more than $7 billion in construction alone, let alone the value
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to oil companies of having an outlet to the sea.
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Well, a troubling article by our friend Anthony Fury in the Toronto Sun.
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And I want to read a key phrase that Anthony quotes, quoting Mayor Gregor Robertson, who
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So he was giving a clear message to business viewers.
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I should remind you that Gregor Robertson served on the board of the Tides Canada Foundation before
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He was an anti-oil extremist even before becoming mayor.
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Let me quote to you what Gregor Robertson said to the press.
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He later added, I don't think the resistance on the West Coast is going to fade.
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Well, when the mayor, who is in some ways the chief lawmaker for a city, says he is absolutely
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certain that violence and lawbreaking will proceed, and when his ideological co-religionists
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in fact engage in that lawbreaking, well, gee whiz, if you were Kinder Morgan, would you
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decide to add another $6.4 billion to the one you've already lost?
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Joining us now via Skype is Anthony Fury, the author of the column himself.
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I think most Canadians would be forgiven for thinking that the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain
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fight is a legal one, stuff about jurisdiction.
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And now we're hearing about all these references to BC Superior Court, Rachel Notley threatening
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to ban liquor sales or BC wines coming into the province, all that sort of stuff.
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So it's still within the rubric of polite society and lawmaking and all of that.
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Those friends of Gregor Robertson's you refer to, his statement is very interesting to me
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And as you pointed out, he was with Tides Foundation.
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Because I've found documents that show Greenpeace and much less moderate organizations in Greenpeace
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have been running direct action summits and learning centers and so forth for people to
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Well, it's a bit of a euphemism for actually doing physical things to stop and disrupt a
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Well, I mean, I know from studying the publicly disclosed grants made by Tides Canada and their
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American head office in San Francisco that they, in fact, fund these anti-oil extremist
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groups, including his friend and ally, Sephora Berman, who used to be a senior Greenpeace executive.
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She's now with a group that used to be called Forest Ethics.
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There's so many of these different groups, but they all are collegial.
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Here's why I mentioned Sephora Berman, Anthony.
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She got her start in professional activism with what was called the War in the Woods a
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couple of decades ago when there was logging interests on Vancouver Island, and she was
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with the extremists that physically blocked the logging vehicles, destroyed vehicles.
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I'm not saying she herself nailed spikes into trees, but the idea of tree spiking is when
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they log that tree and take it to the sawmill, the steel spike breaks the steel saw, destroying
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the mill, and frankly, endangering any workers there.
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So true eco-terrorism, it was called the War in the Woods, and they won.
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And to Sephora Berman, the lesson she learned there was break the law, get a slap on the wrist,
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And she is now one of the leaders opposing this.
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She and Gregor Robertson are friends and allies.
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I believe you will see War in the Woods style, physical violence and eco-terrorism, and I
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don't think Gregor Robertson's disagreeing, is he?
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NDP MP Kennedy Stewart, he's one of the guys who was arrested alongside Elizabeth May in
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Now, Gregor Robertson said escalation and so forth after those arrests, so he's saying it's
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going to be escalated over and above these people refusing to move and have to be dragged
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Now, Kennedy Stewart commissioned his own polls in which he argues he found that something
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like 12% of British Columbians, which equals hundreds of thousands of people, said they'd
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be willing to engage in civil disobedience to stop this pipeline.
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12% is a small number, but not when you talk about the severity of what's being discussed
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Even if then only 1% or 2% of those people actually act on their direct action, you're
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talking thousands of people who are saying we're going to lay down on the train tracks
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or we're going to go in the night and do something untoward.
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There's been eco-terrorism in Canada in the past.
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This character, Vivo Ludwig, as you know, is something of a folk hero in some circles.
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He's not 100% ideologically overlapped with these sort of climate evangelists.
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He has his own sort of niche interests as well.
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Hundreds of pipeline bombings in Alberta and B.C. in the past 20 years.
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I think he was more of a rogue one-man or one-family operation.
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But here, let's just put some footage over the screen now.
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This is a riot that happened on Burnaby Mountain several years ago.
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I remember we filmed this when we were at the Sun News Network.
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Sapporo Berman's group, Forest Ethics, was there.
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David Suzuki personally attended those riots to give them his imprimatur.
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The one cop who happened to wear a turban for some reason, they threw garbage on him.
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We see in the past month, RCMP officers physically attacked.
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You're always going to have ruffians looking for a fight.
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When they have the moral approval of the CBC, of David Suzuki, of the mayor, of MPs,
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if MPs are actually breaking the law with them, that encourages any young person who says,
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yes, I'm saving the world, and every moral authority in the province is encouraging me
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It's only the evil cops and that Stephen Harper who says don't.
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I think the moral exemplars are the actual instigators here.
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Yeah, well, you make a good point because Elizabeth May and Kennedy Stewart are clearly saying you can do this if you disagree with the position that the majority of Canadians hold and that the courts have upheld and so forth.
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And some injunctions are being upheld by law enforcement.
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And Kennedy Stewart are releasing that number about the number of people who do civil disobedience.
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But his response to it was not to say, so don't do this, folks.
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His response was to say, so shut down this pipeline.
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It was very casually worded, but it's basically a threat saying we're going to unleash the dogs of war on you guys unless you do our bidding.
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Yeah, I don't believe that it keeps him up at night other than with excitement.
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I mean, I think, as you indicated in your column, he was fined $500 for breaking the criminal injunction.
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I think he regards that $500 as a cheap press release that now he can waive.
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Now he'll be able to say, I'm more pro-environmentalist, anti-pipeline than anyone here.
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I'm the only one who's actually being convicted, paid a $500 fine.
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So he's actually looking to turn his own criminality into an election tool.
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Here's what scares me, is the guys who are supposed to be watching this, I mean, Justin Trudeau, who pretends to support this pipeline.
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A couple of years ago, Anthony, his energy minister, Jim Carr, I have to keep reminding people because no one's ever seen or heard of Jim Carr.
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He made the mistake, Anthony, I don't know if you remember this.
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He publicly said if there was eco-terrorism, the government would deploy the RCMP or even the military, which sounds like a pretty obvious thing to say.
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Liberal minister says those who protest pipelines less than peacefully will face the Canadian military.
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He was frog marched out there by his boss, Justin Trudeau.
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Here's the headline in Reuters, Canada energy minister apologizes for pipeline protests from Mark.
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Canada's natural resources minister on Tuesday apologized for remarks he made about anti-pipeline protests that some people interpreted as a threat to use troops against demonstrators.
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So he was forced to apologize for saying he'd uphold the law.
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What more of a green light do you need from Justin Trudeau?
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Say that it's bad to do the civil disobedience.
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Say that it's bad to illegally cross the border.
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I mean, just say, give us a break here, throw us a bone, and just please say those basic things.
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And yet the prime minister can't even bring himself to, I think, set the tone that these things should be disapproved of.
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Yeah, he's been tougher on Jim Carr for threatening to uphold the law than he's been on any of these lawbreakers.
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There's so much here, and I'm so glad you're bringing these to the attention of a larger audience.
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I mean, Gregor Robertson and Kennedy Stewart and Elizabeth May, they are in full league with the protesters.
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I hope you keep shining a light of scrutiny on them.
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Catherine McKenna, she's the second in command of the government, or at least I see her everywhere, and her tweets seem to matter.
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And she is friends with many of these protesters.
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Anthony Fury, his column, if you missed it in the sun, is called Forget Legal Challenges, Direct Action is Trans Mountain's Real Hurdle.
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Welcome back on my monologue yesterday about an ISIS murderer living in Canada.
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What good are the laws if they're going to be ignored?
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The Trudeau liberals are an outlaw government, and the media party is completely complicit.
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Yeah, I mean, if you're having trouble understanding this, think of Paul Bernardo, the mass murderer, sexist, rapist, sorry, rapist, horrific crime of the decade in the 90s.
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People who killed not in an act of occasional passion, hot-blooded killing.
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These are cold-blooded killers who did this, in ISIS's case, for an ideology, for sick pleasure.
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So he wasn't some hot-blooded killer who did something in the moment.
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He enjoyed and felt a religious surge from the murders.
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And he's on the streets, and the CBC won't name him, and Trudeau will not prosecute him.
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We don't have to prosecute him for actual murder.
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We could just prosecute him for going to join ISIS.
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Getting on a plane or trying to get on a plane is a crime.
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Those are all crimes that could lock this guy up for years.
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Ron writes, with the many provisions in the criminal code that could apply in these cases
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that are being ignored, can't a class action lawsuit against Trudeau be launched?
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Well, I don't think you could launch a lawsuit against Trudeau
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for not exercising his political discretion, his executive discretion.
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And some of these provisions in the criminal code need the consent of the attorney general.
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So they have within them implicitly that it's a political decision by the attorney general.
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I don't think you can bind the hands of a justice minister that way.
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There are other provisions in the criminal code that an ordinary citizen can have a private
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That is, an ordinary person goes to a judge and says, judge, there's been a crime.
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Let me take the criminal code and sue this guy in a private prosecution.
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I don't think that's allowed in these terrorism cases.
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Bruce writes, the common thread through today's show is that wicked people protect each other's
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Professional protesters protect organizations which don't care about our prosperity.
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I love it when real investigative reporting unmasks the monsters.
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I was really glad to have our friend James O'Keefe from Project Veritas on.
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His undercover investigations into a group called ACORN stopped, I think, billions being
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funneled into that left-wing street organizing organization, a socialist organization from
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In the case of his school investigations, it's got various teachers' union bosses suspended.
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He does incredible work, and that's why the left hates him, as he mentioned.
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The Washington Post got a Pulitzer Prize for investigating him.
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His investigations haven't won the prize, but the anti-reporting, the anti-journalism of
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What do you think about me showing you those videos?
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I mean, it's just a random woman in a random county at a random traffic stop, but it just
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There was so much demand for racism in the media, and so little actual supply that we have
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I actually think there's an excess of hatred in the world, and a lot of it comes from radical
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But the media can't talk about that, so they ignore that, and they crave other types of
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racism and hate, including making it up about just some traffic cop who, I guess, could
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have been 5%, 10% friendlier, but he didn't have a racist bone in his body.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night, and