Two of Trudeau's Syrian refugees are convicted of threatening to kill their daughter for talking to Canadian boys. Why is the media blackout on this story so bad, you ask? Because it's my bloody right to do so, of course.
00:06:19.040The next threat came in June and July 2017, he said,
00:06:23.660when the family learned Bayan had met a non-Muslim man and was communicating with her through social media.
00:06:30.880Ahmad Ayyub told his daughter, for his own dignity, it would be better to slaughter her than to let her be in such a relationship, the prosecutor said.
00:06:42.440Yeah, sweet daughter, I'm doing this for you.
00:07:13.180The victim also told police her father threatened her on February 13, 2018, when he saw she was receiving messages on her smartphone, court heard, telling her he'd kill her if the messages were from people she'd worked with during a placement at the local food bank.
00:08:10.720Prosecutor Hashay said Bayan Ayyub subsequently told police her father, Fatan Ayyub, called her February 27th to tell her to tell police she'd lied about the allegations she'd made about her father, that she was crazy, and to admit herself to hospital.
00:08:29.520Her mother said if she didn't do it, she would be killed.
00:08:35.300The prosecutor said Fatan Ayyub made the threat in two calls, court heard, the second of which was recorded.
00:08:42.660So it sounds like there was more than three threats after all.
00:08:45.480It sounds like at least four, maybe more.
00:08:46.880How many other young Muslim women are threatened by their own parents to recant complaints about abuse to police, whose own parents, whose own mothers call their victimized daughters liars when they reach for help?
00:09:00.200Well, we know that's exactly what happened in the case of the Shafia family, a quadruple homicide of three girls and one of the two polygamous wives by these murderers here.
00:09:30.120I mean, it's all a big misunderstanding.
00:09:33.500They literally walked out of court that day.
00:09:35.580Hachet said the court, he asked, let me quote, Hachet asked the court to impose 100-day jail terms for both offenders, but since they'd already served 71 days in custody, that means they'd already served their time once the customary remand credit is factored in.
00:09:50.300So the prosecutor himself only asked for 100 days, which of course would have meant much less after statutory release and parole and all that.
00:09:59.180100 days for repeatedly threatening to murder your own daughter and threatening her not to talk police to police.
00:10:09.860Well, of course, because they're Syrian migrants and that's how they roll in a rape culture.
00:10:16.320And you Squaresville Canadians have to get with it.
00:10:19.460Here's one of the defense lawyers telling New Brunswickers that it's all just a little misunderstanding, like beating your wife with a hockey stick.
00:11:52.120And they're laughing at our non-justice system.
00:11:55.000This is the grossest story I've seen all year.
00:11:56.840But other than the New Brunswick Daily Gleaner from which this story comes and its sister newspaper in Moncton, I have not seen this story anywhere in Canada.
00:23:18.920They didn't have the technology to manipulate information or control information on the scale of Facebook or Google.
00:23:23.580So I'd say it has these companies have more power than almost any entity we've seen in history.
00:23:30.540I think they definitely need to be pushed to be more transparent.
00:23:33.280I think if they did it voluntarily, if not some sort of government agency forced them to do so, that's great.
00:23:38.080But I think the power they have has grown to such a point that no matter how we get it, we need to have that transparency.
00:23:44.260So just to use this example, they released this 2.5 million figure as part of this new report, which they say is part of their push to be transparent.
00:23:51.380But they don't give a number of how many accounts and pages have been banned or suspended over hate speech or how many have been mistakenly suspended.
00:24:00.540This happens a lot on Facebook where conservatives are always going to be the victims of enforcement errors that later corrected.
00:24:07.500They won't miss the number of mistakes and they won't list the posts in question.
00:24:11.240They won't subject it to a third party oversight.
00:24:13.460So they just give this figure 2.5 million and leave us to wonder about whether all of these were legitimate or mistakes or the result of some algorithm we don't know about.
00:24:25.080We still know barely anything about how Facebook is making these decisions.
00:24:28.940You've been very generous with your time.
00:24:31.140I sometimes think of the analogy of a phone company, you know, AT&T or Sky or Orange or whatever it is in the UK there and in Canada, Telus and Bell.
00:24:44.000The phone company doesn't listen to your conversations.
00:24:47.000It doesn't stop you from saying things on the phone, even if your emotion at that moment is hate or love or if you're politically incorrect or if you're a troll.
00:24:55.580I mean, if you break other laws, you can use a telephone to break actual laws.
00:24:59.600You can utter a death threat or whatnot or I suppose you could engage in a harassing phone call to a stranger.
00:25:06.940But I'm talking about general content.
00:25:09.380If the phone company started to interrupt your calls if it didn't like what you were saying or actually shut down your phone number because it didn't like what you were saying lawfully,
00:25:18.320I think there would be an uprising and I think the government would come in and say, wait a second, you're a neutral platform for everybody.
00:25:29.460Alan, what does it mean that Facebook, Google, YouTube, Twitter, Amazon are now not just a stage upon which any actor can strut his stuff,
00:25:39.280but rather they are the producer, the director, the censor, the editor.
00:25:42.680And really, they're taking ownership of what can and can't be on.
00:25:47.820How does that change their legal or political standing that they're now saying, we will say, we will tell you what you can or can't say on the telephone,
00:25:57.100the 21st century version of the phone being Facebook and the Internet?
00:26:00.000Well, that's the real legal distinction, especially in the U.S.
00:26:07.340But before I get to the legal angle, what you just said about the telephones is exactly the way we need to think about social media companies.
00:26:14.180We need to stop buying into this idea that was born in the left-wing media that social media companies have some sort of moral responsibility over the content on their platforms.
00:26:25.420They don't. What someone posts on a platform is their responsibility, the responsibility of the individual poster.
00:26:31.060And just as we should stop asking Facebook to censor various posts because we don't like them,
00:26:36.380we also need to stop blaming Facebook or Twitter or Google for hosting content we don't like because it shouldn't be their responsibility.
00:26:45.960But as you point out, they're now moving away from that model.
00:26:48.760They're moving towards being publishers that have an opinion that will censor certain content.
00:26:54.320So legally, that means they should really be held – they should lose their legal protection as neutral platforms.
00:27:02.200Because if you're legally classified as an online platform, then you're not legally liable for the content of what your users post.
00:27:10.260So Facebook and Twitter can't be sued for something that a user posts on their platform, whereas the user might be able to.
00:27:15.560But if they're not a neutral platform anymore, if they're publishers with an opinion, then they should be held legally liable for the content posted on their platforms because they're editing it.
00:27:25.600They're making decisions about what's good and bad.
00:27:28.840And if they're taking responsibility for the content, as Mark Zuckerberg has essentially admitted, then they should be legally responsible for it as well.
00:27:35.960So that's the key legal distinction there.
00:27:38.440But it seems like social media companies at the moment, surprise or surprise, they want all the rights of neutral platforms, all the legal immunities, but none of the responsibilities.
00:27:50.800Well, Alan, I'm so glad you're covering this beat.
00:27:52.520As I've told you on several occasions, I think it's the most important beat because all of a sudden, an entire point of view, key personalities can simply vanish without a trace.
00:28:02.740I mean, our former reporter in the UK, Tommy Robinson, just one day he was gone from Twitter.
00:28:07.880He had 400,000 fans who obviously signed up to hear from him and some anonymous, secretive decision was made.
00:29:05.940We believe that it's in the best interests of Canada and Canadians to get this project built.
00:29:23.840It means thousands of good, well-paying jobs for Canadians.
00:29:28.060It means greater investor confidence and a fair price for our natural resources.
00:29:35.120And it's clear that we have the jurisdictional authority to ensure that it's completed.
00:29:41.580That's why we're working diligently to remove the investment risks, the politically motivated investment risks, so that this project can go ahead as planned.
00:30:16.480And the reason that's an issue is that Kinder Morgan has announced that if they do not have a resolution to the political impasse that's blocking their $7.4 billion pipeline,
00:30:24.740well, if they don't have a resolution by the end of May, they're out of here.
00:30:27.800They'll write off the billion they've spent and they'll just go invest someplace less crazy.
00:30:33.180Joining us now to talk about this press conference is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, who is also our Alberta Bureau Chief from the heart of oil country.
00:31:12.260And I think that there was nothing that Bill Morneau said there that couldn't have been said for Energy East or the Northern Gateway Pipeline.
00:31:22.200He said, you know, this will amount to thousands of good paying jobs and a fair value for a resource.
00:31:27.820Well, yeah, all those other pipelines that they didn't fight for would have done all those things, too.
00:31:32.480So, you know, really, what's the point except, like you say, to kick the ball down the road and then point the finger at Kinder Morgan when they finally had enough of Justin Trudeau and his liberal procrastination?
00:31:48.580I remember about a month ago when Jim Carr, the invisible energy minister, did a little scrum on Parliament Hill and said, all options are on the table, which I think he meant to sound really tough.
00:31:58.840And some journalists said, well, can you name one?
00:32:01.280And he said, oh, all options are on the table.
00:32:07.260I think when you're talking that way, it's pretty clear that you have no options on the table because you don't even know what the options are because you haven't spent a minute thinking about it because you don't care and you think it's done anyways and you don't care about votes in Alberta because they're Albertans.
00:32:20.880Well, they say all options are on the table, but the only option they ever propose is just throwing money in the air and hoping some company stops to pick it up.
00:32:27.960I mean, they haven't proposed anything real.
00:32:32.160They proposed this new legislation that would help get the pipeline done.
00:32:35.580But the deadline is two weeks away and that hasn't even been remotely close to tabled yet.
00:32:41.520You know, I want to jump to our clip two, Hannah.
00:32:44.840I want to show this clip two because there's a little dose of unreality here that you got to pay attention to.
00:32:51.520Can you play clip two? Look at this, Sheila.
00:32:55.400Second, if Kinder Morgan at some stage decides not to proceed with the Trans Mountain Expansion Project, the indemnity against financial loss would still be in place for another party who might wish to take over the project.
00:33:10.420Does Bill Morneau think that if, and I'm going to say when, Kinder Morgan leaves in two weeks, having burnt a billion dollars, having been killed by social license and lawlessness on the ground,
00:33:28.360and a liberal government that won't lift a finger and punish Saskatchewan for not accepting an unconstitutional carbon tax, but won't touch British Columbia for its unconstitutional carbon tax,
00:33:38.320does Bill Morneau think that there's some other investor who says, yeah, I got $7.4 billion and I'd like to take Kinder Morgan's seat in this ordeal?
00:33:50.140I think, I don't know if he believes that.
00:33:58.640I mean, I kind of keep my ear to the ground on these sorts of things.
00:34:02.220And if Bill Morneau can't say, you know, there's this other interested company, if no other companies are even whispering about this, I mean, TransCanada has had it with Canada.
00:34:15.780Billions and billions and billions of dollars have already evacuated the Canadian oil patch, Statoil, for example.
00:34:23.400ConocoPhillips, they've had it with us.
00:34:26.660There are no companies who are going to take this over.
00:35:57.840This pipeline has been a no-brainer from the very beginning.
00:36:01.860It should have been the easiest energy infrastructure project in the country's history to get done.
00:36:07.140And that's just twinning a pipeline in the land the pipeline company already has allocated.
00:36:13.220And the mismanagement of the federal liberals coupled with, you know, the opposition of an unelected NDP government in BC has just had this thing turn into a complete runaway to the point where a company is just going to say, you know what?
00:36:28.240No, no, $8 billion will cut our losses.
00:36:36.960And you can see he's sort of preparing the ground to blamestorm, to say it's Kinder Morgan's fault that they're not willing to stick around.
00:36:50.780And third, any support that Canada provides to ensure that the project proceeds must be sound and fair and beneficial to Canadians.
00:37:02.200We understand that a private sector company would want to maximize their profit.
00:37:08.420Likewise, we have a responsibility to act in the best interests of all Canadians.
00:37:14.300I think that's some sort of way of saying we're not going to be ruled by Kinder Morgan.
00:37:19.240Kinder Morgan has never asked for a dollar, has never asked for anything other than the law of the land be followed, which it is not.
00:37:27.380It's really weird, that passive aggressive, well, Kinder Morgan ought to know we're going to stand up for Canada's interests and we're not going to be ruled by their profit motive.
00:37:56.620Well, if you don't want to be ruled by profit motive of a private company, don't offer to get into business with them, to get around the opposition that the federal liberals have spent so long fomenting.
00:38:07.980I mean, you're not serious about getting pipelines done if you have somebody like Gerald Butts of the World Wildlife Fund and Zoe Caron on the government payroll.
00:38:19.760I mean, you don't legitimize the anti-oil voices by sticking them in government.
00:38:25.360You marginalize them if you're serious about getting a pipeline done.
00:38:28.360But the liberals just keep hiring these people and then wondering why pipeline companies don't want to have anything to do with us.
00:38:50.800Trudeau has told his caucus, if you get a memo from Gerald Butts, take it as if it's me.
00:38:56.200Trudeau told the ethics commissioner, oh, I couldn't have lobbied the Aga Khan because when I attend meetings, I don't actually get into the substance.
00:39:02.940I just come in, make sure the relationship's good.
00:39:52.580I mean, it's pretty clear that Trudeau doesn't want to be the prime minister of no.
00:40:00.600So he wants to be the prime minister of, well, we tried, but the evil capitalist companies just were a little too greedy for us.
00:40:09.040So he doesn't want to deal with a political hot potato that he's going to be left with when he sees another pipeline leave Canada.
00:40:16.900But for all those reasons that Bill Morneau said that they will stick up for Kinder Morgan,
00:40:23.880those are all the reasons that they should have been sticking up for every single other energy infrastructure project up and including now.
00:40:36.060I always mean it when I say it, but I can never give you a promise.
00:40:38.920It reminds me of the show I did a few weeks ago about the little rock quarry company that wanted to invest in Digby Neck, Nova Scotia.
00:40:46.240They were frustrated by environmentalists.
00:40:48.280They just won a half billion dollar NAFTA ruling against Canada.
00:40:51.620It would not surprise me if five years from now we're paying $10 billion to Kinder Morgan because we did not let them invest their own money here.
00:41:38.100On my monologue yesterday about a false accusation of racism after a routine speeding ticket, Keith and Helen, right?
00:41:44.740I thought the cop was actually quite courteous and he was professional and firm in his approach, but he certainly didn't come off anywhere near racist.
00:41:51.240I think in this incident it's clear who the racist is.
00:41:53.960Yeah, I mean, the words race, black, white, did not come up at all in the traffic stop.
00:42:01.680I mean, it was a very brief interaction, wasn't it?
00:42:04.080I mean, they were only talking for less than four minutes.
00:42:07.660He spent more time just literally riding the ticket.
00:42:09.980She immediately went straight to race when she got in her car and did her Facebook Live video.
00:42:17.440I do not dispute that in a country as large as the United States, most more than 300 million people, there are racist incidents.
00:42:24.780And I don't dispute that there are some racist cops.
00:42:26.460But what we have in the form of these body cams is an instant lie detector that's, you know, you can see with your own eyes what happened here.
00:42:37.620I believe there is such a dearth of actual institutional racism in America.
00:42:43.400But there's such a huge demand for it.
00:42:45.600Well, demand, high demand, low supply, it draws people into the market to fake it because there's a reward.
00:42:52.620That woman got hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of views, and she was a hero.
00:42:57.140Even now that the truth has come up, I think she's still probably treated like a hero because, really, the lie already ran around the world twice before the truth got its boosts laced up.
00:43:44.500What do you think about a 71-day custodial sentence for a husband and wife who repeatedly, repeatedly, and repeatedly, and aggressively threatened to murder their own daughter?
00:43:55.120And I think, actually, in some ways, the worst part of the story is when the daughter went to police, the mother said to her,
00:44:01.900you immediately recant, call yourself a liar, say you're crazy, check yourself into a hospital, or we will murder you.
00:44:11.040In some ways, I think that's the worst part.
00:44:13.580And for the lawyer just to say, oh, you know, it's just, they didn't mean it.