Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show May 16 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, two of Trudeau's Syrian refugees are convicted of threatening to kill their daughter

00:00:05.160 for talking to Canadian boys. So, why the media blackout?

00:00:10.020 It's May 16th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:18.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:22.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:26.100 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:29.080 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:39.680 Here's a story out of Fredericton, New Brunswick.

00:00:42.420 This report is from a newspaper there called The Daily Gleaner.

00:00:45.620 I'm going to take you through it because it's fascinating and bizarre.

00:00:48.640 It's about two of Trudeau's Syrian refugees, and I say those words with air quotes, Syrian refugees,

00:00:54.300 because almost none of Trudeau's Syrian refugees actually came from Syria.

00:00:58.180 They had already left Syria, in some cases many years earlier, and had already found refuge in Jordan, Turkey, or Lebanon.

00:01:06.580 So, they were not actually from Syria anymore, and they were not actually refugees anymore.

00:01:11.960 But that's fine.

00:01:12.780 Justin Trudeau is for open borders and mass, unvetted, Muslim migration unvetted in any meaningful way,

00:01:18.640 not even for basic skills like speaking English or French or having any useful job skills or education,

00:01:23.560 or, of course, cultural skills, by which I mean understanding that in Canada, we don't beat our wives. 0.70

00:01:30.440 Here's the CBSA program branch, Vice President Martin Bolduc,

00:01:36.380 basically the senior officer in charge of these refugees, testifying to Parliament a couple years back

00:01:41.480 about the source of these Syrian migrants, just in case you doubt me.

00:01:45.360 Most of the 21,000 refugees that have made it to our borders were now housed in camps.

00:01:52.840 They have been living in theatre for a number of years, renting apartments.

00:01:58.660 So, I just wanted that for the precision.

00:02:03.160 They're not housed in camps administered by the UNHCR.

00:02:07.020 Can you give me a breakdown?

00:02:08.860 How many from camps?

00:02:10.020 I wouldn't be able to tell you the 21,000, how many, but very, very few came out of camps.

00:02:17.540 Most of the people were already living in the countries where we are operating.

00:02:23.640 So, they're not really refugees.

00:02:25.140 Anyways, the mainstream media just loves, loves, loves doing stories on Trudeau's Syrian refugees to cheerlead them.

00:02:32.080 Here was a beautifully produced video about the Rafia family,

00:02:36.080 who were just dumped in a small town in Atlantic Canada.

00:02:40.340 Lazy husband, that's him there, Mohamed Rafia, who just sat on the porch all day,

00:02:47.000 just smoking and drinking coffee.

00:02:49.420 I mean, he looked lazy to me, but then again, he didn't speak English,

00:02:53.160 and he had no marketable skills.

00:02:55.020 He knew no one. 0.99

00:02:56.880 He was clearly miserable.

00:02:58.200 He had no friends. 0.95

00:02:59.080 So, his wife was miserable too, of course.

00:03:01.720 She tried to make some friends.

00:03:03.220 Anyways, it was a beautiful documentary on the family, just gorgeously shot.

00:03:08.080 And that was published until, uh-oh, one day, look at this,

00:03:11.300 Mohamed Rafia, there he is,

00:03:13.540 was charged and convicted with beating his wife with a hockey stick for half an hour.

00:03:20.840 And he said, according, I'm not making this up, you can even see this in the headline there,

00:03:24.920 he said that no one had told him you can't beat your wife in Canada.

00:03:28.180 He just, no one told him.

00:03:29.740 And you know what, I believe him because it would be Islamophobic to tell someone that.

00:03:35.880 Anyways, huge news about Mohamed Rafia when he was a soft focus sob story about a Syrian refugee

00:03:42.920 in a small town in Atlantic Canada.

00:03:46.220 Not a lot of coverage when it was revealed that he beat his wife with a hockey stick for half an hour

00:03:51.240 and it was covered in blood.

00:03:53.140 Yeah, that's not what hockey sticks are for.

00:03:55.320 They're for hockey.

00:03:56.600 I don't know if anyone told you that when you came to Canada.

00:03:58.260 Anyways, well, today's news out of New Brunswick is worse.

00:04:01.860 It's a mother and a father, Syrian migrants,

00:04:04.800 who repeatedly threatened to murder their own daughter for various honor crimes.

00:04:10.640 Now, let me quote a bit from the story.

00:04:13.620 A Syrian refugee couple, upon learning their adult daughter was dating a non-Muslim man in Fredericton,

00:04:19.620 threatened her with an honor killing, court heard Tuesday.

00:04:23.280 Oh, just that.

00:04:24.360 So they'll come to Canada to take our free stuff, our free health care, our free welfare, subsidized housing,

00:04:30.500 halal, food banks, plain old cash, but their daughter socializing with a Canadian, that's haram. 1.00

00:04:37.060 That's for burden. 0.96

00:04:38.080 It's dirty.

00:04:38.780 It's dishonorable. 0.99

00:04:39.820 They would murder their own daughter for disgracing them, for fraternizing with Canadians. 0.98

00:04:45.460 Yuck, Canadians. 1.00

00:04:47.520 Sorry, why did you come to Canada if you hate Canadian people so much? 0.96

00:04:50.740 I'll read some more from the story.

00:04:53.380 Crown Prosecutor Claude Hachet said,

00:04:57.020 Bayan Ayyub reported to Fredericton Police Force in mid-February that her father, Ahmad Ayyub,

00:05:05.020 threatened to kill her on three occasions.

00:05:08.460 So Bayan is the daughter you see there.

00:05:11.380 Both mom and dad threatened to murder her again and again.

00:05:15.640 The first time was in April 2016, just two months after the family arrived in Canada, court heard.

00:05:22.600 When the father became irate, when he discovered Bayan had an iPad she'd won in a contest,

00:05:29.040 he threatened to poison her food at that time, Hachet said.

00:05:34.640 Poison, eh?

00:05:36.540 That's dad of the year material right there.

00:05:38.620 That's a Trudeau refugee. 0.96

00:05:39.960 That's unvetted mass migration from a rape culture that treats women as chattel. 1.00

00:05:46.440 That's violence. 0.84

00:05:47.540 That's anti-infidel bigotry. 0.96

00:05:49.200 We hear the word Islamophobia a lot, but what do you call it when a Syrian migrant hates Canadians so much 1.00

00:05:54.660 that he tells his own daughter he'll poison her if she hangs out with Canadians, even chats with them on an iPad?

00:06:02.820 I don't know, what's that, Canada phobia or something?

00:06:05.060 How about just someone who doesn't belong here and doesn't deserve our charity?

00:06:07.940 Maybe he's better fit for Syria after all. 1.00

00:06:11.300 They do a lot of that over there.

00:06:12.580 But it wasn't just a heated comment in the moment.

00:06:15.400 It's something he said again and again.

00:06:16.880 Let me quote some more.

00:06:19.040 The next threat came in June and July 2017, he said,

00:06:23.660 when the family learned Bayan had met a non-Muslim man and was communicating with her through social media.

00:06:30.880 Ahmad Ayyub told his daughter, for his own dignity, it would be better to slaughter her than to let her be in such a relationship, the prosecutor said.

00:06:42.440 Yeah, sweet daughter, I'm doing this for you.

00:06:44.780 I'm doing this for me.

00:06:45.700 I'm doing this for our family. 1.00

00:06:46.940 I'm going to murder you because it's better to, quote, slaughter you than to have you be seen with a Canadian man. 1.00

00:06:53.060 That's how ISIS does it, by the way. 1.00

00:06:54.360 They slaughter their victims a knife to the throat. 0.97

00:06:57.940 Sorry, is this thug a refugee from ISIS or is he a perpetrator? 0.97

00:07:01.780 Does Justin Trudeau even know or care?

00:07:04.180 So it started back in 2016 as soon as they came here and he kept going with the murder threats.

00:07:09.220 Here's an incident from this year, 2018, just a few months ago.

00:07:12.840 Let me quote.

00:07:13.180 The victim also told police her father threatened her on February 13, 2018, when he saw she was receiving messages on her smartphone, court heard, telling her he'd kill her if the messages were from people she'd worked with during a placement at the local food bank.

00:07:31.020 So this girl, I mean, she's an adult.

00:07:32.900 I'll call her a girl because she's a daughter.

00:07:34.780 So this young woman is actually doing something positive, getting out of the house, helping others at a food bank.

00:07:40.760 Seems nice enough. 0.99

00:07:42.080 And her putrid father threatens to murder her. 0.99

00:07:46.500 Okay, last quote from the story. 0.97

00:07:47.680 This is about the mother who was helping the father.

00:07:51.660 What kind of mother would collude in the murder or the threatened murder of her own daughter? 1.00

00:07:55.940 How does that murderous instinct trump the maternal instinct?

00:08:01.580 That's honor violence in a rape culture, which is where this thuggish family was imported from. 1.00

00:08:06.660 They would kill their own daughter and the mother would help. 0.99

00:08:10.080 Let me quote.

00:08:10.720 Prosecutor Hashay said Bayan Ayyub subsequently told police her father, Fatan Ayyub, called her February 27th to tell her to tell police she'd lied about the allegations she'd made about her father, that she was crazy, and to admit herself to hospital.

00:08:29.520 Her mother said if she didn't do it, she would be killed.

00:08:35.300 The prosecutor said Fatan Ayyub made the threat in two calls, court heard, the second of which was recorded.

00:08:42.660 So it sounds like there was more than three threats after all.

00:08:45.480 It sounds like at least four, maybe more.

00:08:46.880 How many other young Muslim women are threatened by their own parents to recant complaints about abuse to police, whose own parents, whose own mothers call their victimized daughters liars when they reach for help?

00:09:00.200 Well, we know that's exactly what happened in the case of the Shafia family, a quadruple homicide of three girls and one of the two polygamous wives by these murderers here. 0.95

00:09:09.020 So what's the sentence?

00:09:10.720 What's the sentence for this wonderful family in Fredericton?

00:09:13.620 Well, nothing.

00:09:17.180 Nothing.

00:09:18.060 They walked out of court that day, that minute they walked out of court free.

00:09:24.540 They were in pretrial custody for 71 days.

00:09:27.260 I acknowledge that.

00:09:28.640 So that's enough, said the judge.

00:09:30.120 I mean, it's all a big misunderstanding.

00:09:33.500 They literally walked out of court that day.

00:09:35.580 Hachet said the court, he asked, let me quote, Hachet asked the court to impose 100-day jail terms for both offenders, but since they'd already served 71 days in custody, that means they'd already served their time once the customary remand credit is factored in.

00:09:50.300 So the prosecutor himself only asked for 100 days, which of course would have meant much less after statutory release and parole and all that.

00:09:59.180 100 days for repeatedly threatening to murder your own daughter and threatening her not to talk police to police. 0.97

00:10:09.860 Well, of course, because they're Syrian migrants and that's how they roll in a rape culture. 1.00

00:10:16.320 And you Squaresville Canadians have to get with it. 0.99

00:10:19.460 Here's one of the defense lawyers telling New Brunswickers that it's all just a little misunderstanding, like beating your wife with a hockey stick.

00:10:26.680 I mean, they just didn't know.

00:10:28.700 Let me quote this Lutz character.

00:10:31.160 He's one of the defense lawyers.

00:10:32.880 Lutz noted the charges were the result of cultural differences and the ongoing effort to adjust to life in Canada.

00:10:42.180 Let me read some more.

00:10:43.300 The language used was careless.

00:10:45.100 Hey, guys, you know, you got to be careful you don't accidentally threaten to murder your daughter four times.

00:10:50.140 The language used was careless in the extreme and bordered on reckless.

00:10:54.060 It wasn't quite reckless, apparently.

00:10:57.600 He told the court, noting, Syrians have a different way of speaking with one another than the customs in Canada.

00:11:03.500 A Syrian could tell someone, I'll stab you, Lutz said, but they don't mean it.

00:11:10.200 Come on, guys, they don't mean it. 0.98

00:11:12.760 Don't be so negative.

00:11:15.260 You know, rain on the parade.

00:11:16.960 It's such a vibrant, diverse culture. 0.99

00:11:20.140 They force their women to cover up or else they condemn them as whores. 1.00

00:11:25.760 They condemn local Canadians as dirty. 1.00

00:11:28.180 Don't date them. 0.99

00:11:29.900 Because it's just a slip of the tongue.

00:11:31.900 They don't mean it.

00:11:34.340 Here's my favorite line from the story.

00:11:36.080 The atmosphere outside the courtroom following the sentencing was celebratory as family members and friends embraced the couple.

00:11:46.180 You guys are the best.

00:11:48.160 You're the best.

00:11:50.120 Celebratory.

00:11:51.300 They're thrilled.

00:11:52.120 And they're laughing at our non-justice system.

00:11:55.000 This is the grossest story I've seen all year.

00:11:56.840 But other than the New Brunswick Daily Gleaner from which this story comes and its sister newspaper in Moncton, I have not seen this story anywhere in Canada.

00:12:04.800 Have you?

00:12:05.740 And by the way, you can't even find this story online.

00:12:07.940 I had to subscribe to the paywall of the Daily Gleaner because it was behind a paywall.

00:12:12.940 You can't get this on the Internet.

00:12:14.660 Try Googling it.

00:12:15.360 You won't find it.

00:12:16.840 I wonder if that's on purpose because there's a lot of other stuff that's on the Internet for free by the same company.

00:12:21.280 But the court hearing was public.

00:12:24.360 The verdict was public.

00:12:26.100 It was obviously an important and newsworthy case.

00:12:29.340 But not a peep about it anywhere else that I found.

00:12:31.580 I looked exhaustively.

00:12:32.540 It's not on the CBC's New Brunswick homepage.

00:12:35.960 I searched the entire CBC website.

00:12:38.740 You can see the result here if you type in the words.

00:12:41.960 It's not there, at least when I searched it, which was a day after the ruling.

00:12:47.700 Canada's state broadcaster is choosing not to report this story.

00:12:50.760 All the other media are choosing not to report the story.

00:12:53.640 They're choosing to unreport it, to disreport it, to anti-report it.

00:12:59.060 Just like they did when we published a story in 2016, I don't know if you remember,

00:13:03.020 about how Fredericton schools are overrun by violent Syrian migrant kids. 1.00

00:13:08.380 And by kids, I mean young men as old as 21 being jammed into high schools with young Canadian girls. 0.99

00:13:14.160 The violence, the threats, the Islamic extremism right there in the schools. 0.99

00:13:18.600 Thousands of pages of documents from the schools about the problems that's causing,

00:13:22.940 but the mainstream media refuse to cover it because it's against the narrative.

00:13:28.680 Syrian refugees are poor souls who need our help. 1.00

00:13:31.660 The only bad things about Syrian refugees are the Islamophobic racists. 0.99

00:13:36.680 And you don't want to be an Islamophobic racist, do you? 1.00

00:13:39.100 So shut up. 1.00

00:13:41.180 Honor violence, wife beating, threatening daughters, calling Canadians dirty and unclean, 0.99

00:13:45.560 90% unemployment rate two years later, no English or French skills,

00:13:49.220 beating a woman for half an hour with a hockey stick bloody.

00:13:52.200 That's all off the media agenda.

00:13:55.780 It's a miracle that the Daily Gleaner even covered it at all.

00:13:58.380 I'm surprised really.

00:13:59.360 But like I say, they hid it behind the paywall.

00:14:03.160 Say, if this is what they grudgingly cover,

00:14:07.500 how many stories, how many bad, awful stories are there

00:14:11.620 that aren't covered at all?

00:14:15.560 Stay with us for more.

00:14:29.360 The nexus of power in media has moved from New York City to Silicon Valley.

00:14:38.560 If a tech company decides they don't like your views,

00:14:43.280 they don't like what you're saying,

00:14:45.180 we've heard reports from whistleblowers of shadow banning

00:14:49.220 where you simply tweet or post something and nobody sees it.

00:14:52.740 It just goes into the void, goes into the ether,

00:14:55.380 and you are silenced magically.

00:14:57.460 Likewise, if there are views that a handful of tech companies like,

00:15:03.140 they can favor those views and direct them to your feed

00:15:07.060 so everything you see is the information they want you to see.

00:15:10.660 That is a level of power that is staggering,

00:15:14.160 and I think it poses a real and present danger to our democratic system,

00:15:22.500 particularly given the extreme left-wing bias of Silicon Valley.

00:15:27.820 What we've seen over and over again,

00:15:29.500 they're acting to muzzle and silence conservative views,

00:15:33.000 views they disagree with.

00:15:34.900 That's frightening.

00:15:36.120 There you have it, Senator Ted Cruz,

00:15:38.460 in an exclusive interview with Breitbart.com.

00:15:41.420 Very true, and actually, it shouldn't be controversial.

00:15:46.900 Mark Zuckerberg himself, when he testified before Congress,

00:15:49.640 admitted that Silicon Valley, located as it is in the San Francisco area,

00:15:54.080 is a very left-wing city, so they're just doing what they do naturally.

00:15:58.020 Well, joining me now via Skype to talk about this

00:15:59.820 is the senior technology correspondent for Breitbart News,

00:16:03.200 our friend Alan Bukhari.

00:16:04.360 Great to see you again, Alan.

00:16:05.280 Hi, Ezra, and yeah, I mean, hard to follow Ted Cruz.

00:16:09.660 He sort of said it all, but he's absolutely correct, of course.

00:16:15.840 Silicon Valley now has far more power to shape public opinion

00:16:19.800 and shape the form of information and news

00:16:22.880 than a traditional media publication.

00:16:25.040 Imagine if all the newsstands in the world were run by just one company

00:16:30.240 and they decided to only sell the New York Times and the Washington Post.

00:16:33.540 I don't think anyone would stand for that for very long,

00:16:35.760 but that's what we have with Facebook.

00:16:37.200 It's like one company that is really the, along with Google,

00:16:41.340 is really the only game in town when it comes to distributing news

00:16:47.680 and building news websites.

00:16:50.180 If you're not on Facebook, you can't really survive as a news website.

00:16:53.760 Facebook's doing it, and I see news that Twitter is doing it, too,

00:16:57.380 in shadow banning.

00:16:58.560 There's probably a term that some of our viewers

00:17:00.200 who are not deep into social media understand.

00:17:02.660 It's basically you think you're talking to the world.

00:17:05.760 You think you're publishing your material, and indeed you are,

00:17:09.100 but no one is being shown it.

00:17:11.040 So it's like being in a padded room.

00:17:13.940 You can shout all you like, but no one knows it's happening,

00:17:17.520 and you don't know it's happening.

00:17:19.280 You have not been warned.

00:17:20.220 You have not been given advice or anything.

00:17:23.800 It's just they put you on your own little island.

00:17:27.960 Twitter has actually come out and said that's their new policy, isn't it?

00:17:30.920 In all but name, yes.

00:17:34.580 They've said that they haven't used the word shadow banning specifically.

00:17:37.700 In fact, publicly, they've denied shadow banning users.

00:17:41.440 They actually told Ted Cruz when one of the representatives went to testify

00:17:45.000 before the Senate that the company does not shadow ban.

00:17:47.660 But I think they're lying.

00:17:49.260 I think they lied to the Senate because here they are admitting

00:17:51.960 that they will artificially limit the reach of certain accounts

00:17:56.180 and certain content that doesn't even violate their terms of service,

00:18:00.140 but they'll artificially downrank it.

00:18:01.380 They'll hide it in search results.

00:18:02.540 They'll make it less visible.

00:18:04.200 So people will be restricted on Twitter if they exhibit so-called troll-like behavior.

00:18:09.300 And if they detract from the public conversation,

00:18:14.280 these very vague Orwellian terms that are properly defined.

00:18:17.180 Yeah.

00:18:18.880 You're a conversation detractor, Alan.

00:18:20.960 You're part of the conversation, but in a detracting way.

00:18:23.620 I'm going to ban you. 1.00

00:18:24.500 I mean, what on earth could that possibly mean

00:18:27.200 other than whatever Twitter wants it to mean, right?

00:18:30.420 Yeah, it's crazily vague.

00:18:31.800 And they haven't even defined the list of signals that they use.

00:18:33.960 They're supposed to use all these signals to determine whether an account is troll-like

00:18:38.520 or detracting from a public conversation or whatever they're talking about.

00:18:41.380 But they only list four of those signals.

00:18:43.320 They don't name the whole list.

00:18:45.920 And they also admit that this will be done for content

00:18:48.180 that isn't necessarily violating the terms of service.

00:18:50.260 So they're giving themselves power to downrank virtually any tweet that they like,

00:18:54.900 any account that they like.

00:18:56.420 The other news today, by the way, is Facebook.

00:18:59.960 They've released this new report on content moderation on the platform

00:19:04.840 in which they admit they removed 2.5 million examples of hate speech

00:19:10.140 in the first quarter of 2018.

00:19:12.680 That's in a three-month period, 2.5 million pieces of hate speech.

00:19:16.220 That includes posts and other forms of content.

00:19:20.040 And you know what?

00:19:20.860 I mean, hate speech means...

00:19:21.100 That's a staggering amount.

00:19:22.380 I think the word hate speech in 2018 simply means speech that someone hates.

00:19:27.540 I mean, it could be hateful speech.

00:19:30.320 Hate is a natural human emotion.

00:19:32.020 But I think it basically means things that Mark Zuckerberg

00:19:34.700 or his team of social justice warriors in San Francisco find hateful.

00:19:39.980 Before we...

00:19:40.860 I want to talk more about Facebook because there's a lot to say about that.

00:19:43.460 But can I first read...

00:19:45.000 And I learned about this through your column in the Breitbart.com

00:19:47.920 called Twitter Officially Admits to Shadow Banning Users in All That Name.

00:19:51.320 Let me just read Twitter's new policies.

00:19:53.860 I want to show our viewers that this is not just your opinion or my opinion.

00:19:57.640 This is actually posted on Twitter's website.

00:20:02.860 They call it Serving Healthy Conversation because, Alan,

00:20:06.280 you've had some unhealthy ideas and that has to be remedied.

00:20:10.400 Let me quote from Twitter.

00:20:12.140 They say,

00:20:12.440 One important issue we've been working to address is what some might refer to as trolls.

00:20:18.440 Some troll-like behavior is fun, good, and humorous.

00:20:21.340 What we're talking about today are troll-like behaviors that distort

00:20:23.940 and detract from the public conversation on Twitter,

00:20:26.740 particularly in communal areas like conversations and search.

00:20:30.340 Some of these accounts and tweets violate our policies,

00:20:32.440 and in those cases, we take action on them.

00:20:34.900 Others don't, but are behaving in ways that distort the conversation.

00:20:38.820 Alan, it's sort of like hate speech, I suppose, or anything, or fake news.

00:20:46.800 What someone thinks is controversial or important, someone else calls fake news.

00:20:52.200 What is a troll to one person is speaking truth to power by another.

00:20:57.360 I mean, it's so subjective.

00:21:00.920 I criticize powerful politicians all the time on Twitter.

00:21:04.700 Am I a troll or am I part of the media holding powerful people to account?

00:21:09.680 They really don't define these terms, do they, Alan?

00:21:13.200 Yeah, again and again, we see this on the left.

00:21:15.140 They love terms that can be stretched to cover almost anything they want.

00:21:18.740 So, you know, hate speech, harassment, fake news,

00:21:23.020 and in this case, healthy conversations and disrupting the public conversation.

00:21:28.880 These terms can be twisted and stretched and molded to sort of fit any definition they like

00:21:33.240 so they can say, well, the guys we like, you know,

00:21:35.480 they're not distorting the public conversation because of reasons.

00:21:39.980 And the guys we don't like, like, you know, like you and me, we are.

00:21:43.080 So we're going to downrank these guys.

00:21:45.700 We're going to downrank the tweets from these guys.

00:21:47.660 And, you know, we're not even going to tell them about it.

00:21:49.080 So the really insidious thing is you don't know if your tweet has been shadow banned,

00:21:53.820 if that's the reason I'm getting in traffic with just a bad tweet.

00:21:56.240 So there's no way to know when Twitter's censoring you now.

00:21:59.600 It's a complete lack of transparency here.

00:22:02.240 I want to come back to your news about Facebook admitting it's deleted 2.5 million pieces of content.

00:22:10.760 I recall after Brexit in the UK and after Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election,

00:22:17.360 Facebook didn't want a three-peat.

00:22:19.860 And so in the French elections, Zuckerberg preemptively shut down 30,000 Facebook pages

00:22:28.680 that were supportive of Marine Le Pen claiming they were fake or I don't know.

00:22:34.160 He just did it.

00:22:35.140 And we have no idea who the 30,000 were, what they said.

00:22:37.520 We just have to take his word for it.

00:22:38.640 I thought that was a staggering number.

00:22:40.980 And now we'll tack on a few more zeros to that, the 2.5 million.

00:22:46.740 Is there any trace of this?

00:22:50.060 I mean, Ted Cruz was making the right sounds.

00:22:52.360 But is there any way that Facebook would ever disclose or could be asked to disclose what it's censoring?

00:23:00.520 I mean, I don't want the government to take over Facebook, but Facebook is acting like a bullying, censoring government.

00:23:07.140 And they're bigger than any government I know.

00:23:10.680 Yeah, they're frankly more powerful than any government.

00:23:13.760 I mean, think of totalitarian governments from the 20th century.

00:23:17.960 They didn't have this kind of power.

00:23:18.920 They didn't have the technology to manipulate information or control information on the scale of Facebook or Google.

00:23:23.580 So I'd say it has these companies have more power than almost any entity we've seen in history.

00:23:30.540 I think they definitely need to be pushed to be more transparent.

00:23:33.280 I think if they did it voluntarily, if not some sort of government agency forced them to do so, that's great.

00:23:38.080 But I think the power they have has grown to such a point that no matter how we get it, we need to have that transparency.

00:23:44.260 So just to use this example, they released this 2.5 million figure as part of this new report, which they say is part of their push to be transparent.

00:23:51.380 But they don't give a number of how many accounts and pages have been banned or suspended over hate speech or how many have been mistakenly suspended.

00:24:00.540 This happens a lot on Facebook where conservatives are always going to be the victims of enforcement errors that later corrected.

00:24:07.500 They won't miss the number of mistakes and they won't list the posts in question.

00:24:11.240 They won't subject it to a third party oversight.

00:24:13.460 So they just give this figure 2.5 million and leave us to wonder about whether all of these were legitimate or mistakes or the result of some algorithm we don't know about.

00:24:25.080 We still know barely anything about how Facebook is making these decisions.

00:24:28.940 You've been very generous with your time.

00:24:30.420 I have one last question.

00:24:31.140 I sometimes think of the analogy of a phone company, you know, AT&T or Sky or Orange or whatever it is in the UK there and in Canada, Telus and Bell.

00:24:44.000 The phone company doesn't listen to your conversations.

00:24:47.000 It doesn't stop you from saying things on the phone, even if your emotion at that moment is hate or love or if you're politically incorrect or if you're a troll.

00:24:55.580 I mean, if you break other laws, you can use a telephone to break actual laws.

00:24:59.600 You can utter a death threat or whatnot or I suppose you could engage in a harassing phone call to a stranger.

00:25:06.940 But I'm talking about general content.

00:25:09.380 If the phone company started to interrupt your calls if it didn't like what you were saying or actually shut down your phone number because it didn't like what you were saying lawfully,

00:25:18.320 I think there would be an uprising and I think the government would come in and say, wait a second, you're a neutral platform for everybody.

00:25:27.480 You cannot censor content.

00:25:29.460 Alan, what does it mean that Facebook, Google, YouTube, Twitter, Amazon are now not just a stage upon which any actor can strut his stuff,

00:25:39.280 but rather they are the producer, the director, the censor, the editor.

00:25:42.680 And really, they're taking ownership of what can and can't be on.

00:25:47.820 How does that change their legal or political standing that they're now saying, we will say, we will tell you what you can or can't say on the telephone,

00:25:57.100 the 21st century version of the phone being Facebook and the Internet?

00:26:00.000 Well, that's the real legal distinction, especially in the U.S.

00:26:05.640 And Ted Cruz brings this up a lot.

00:26:07.340 But before I get to the legal angle, what you just said about the telephones is exactly the way we need to think about social media companies.

00:26:14.180 We need to stop buying into this idea that was born in the left-wing media that social media companies have some sort of moral responsibility over the content on their platforms.

00:26:25.420 They don't. What someone posts on a platform is their responsibility, the responsibility of the individual poster.

00:26:31.060 And just as we should stop asking Facebook to censor various posts because we don't like them,

00:26:36.380 we also need to stop blaming Facebook or Twitter or Google for hosting content we don't like because it shouldn't be their responsibility.

00:26:43.920 They should be just platforms.

00:26:45.960 But as you point out, they're now moving away from that model.

00:26:48.760 They're moving towards being publishers that have an opinion that will censor certain content.

00:26:54.320 So legally, that means they should really be held – they should lose their legal protection as neutral platforms.

00:27:02.200 Because if you're legally classified as an online platform, then you're not legally liable for the content of what your users post.

00:27:10.260 So Facebook and Twitter can't be sued for something that a user posts on their platform, whereas the user might be able to.

00:27:15.560 But if they're not a neutral platform anymore, if they're publishers with an opinion, then they should be held legally liable for the content posted on their platforms because they're editing it.

00:27:25.600 They're making decisions about what's good and bad.

00:27:28.840 And if they're taking responsibility for the content, as Mark Zuckerberg has essentially admitted, then they should be legally responsible for it as well.

00:27:35.960 So that's the key legal distinction there.

00:27:38.440 But it seems like social media companies at the moment, surprise or surprise, they want all the rights of neutral platforms, all the legal immunities, but none of the responsibilities.

00:27:49.640 Yeah, isn't that the truth?

00:27:50.800 Well, Alan, I'm so glad you're covering this beat.

00:27:52.520 As I've told you on several occasions, I think it's the most important beat because all of a sudden, an entire point of view, key personalities can simply vanish without a trace.

00:28:02.740 I mean, our former reporter in the UK, Tommy Robinson, just one day he was gone from Twitter.

00:28:07.880 He had 400,000 fans who obviously signed up to hear from him and some anonymous, secretive decision was made.

00:28:17.180 I don't know by whom.

00:28:18.400 And he was gone.

00:28:19.920 And those 400,000 people had their choices taken away and Tommy had his voice taken away.

00:28:25.180 You can like...

00:28:26.020 Just for posting a fact.

00:28:27.260 Sorry, go ahead.

00:28:29.340 Just for posting a fact as well.

00:28:30.700 Like nothing he said was like an attack on anyone.

00:28:33.280 It was simply a fact.

00:28:34.460 Right.

00:28:35.100 And I find that troubling.

00:28:37.160 And I know they would desperately love to take Breitbart down.

00:28:41.200 And in Canada, we're, I think, enemy number one.

00:28:44.480 And they don't need to debate our side anymore because they can just push the delete button.

00:28:49.640 I find that terrifying.

00:28:50.720 I'm so glad you're shining a light of scrutiny on it.

00:28:52.980 Hopefully, it'll make a difference.

00:28:54.480 Keep it up.

00:28:56.440 Thanks, Ezra.

00:28:57.000 All right.

00:28:57.640 There you have it.

00:28:58.200 Alan Bocari is the senior technology correspondent with Breitbart News.

00:29:01.700 We were chatting to him via Skype from London, England.

00:29:04.320 Stay with us.

00:29:05.280 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:29:05.940 We believe that it's in the best interests of Canada and Canadians to get this project built.

00:29:23.840 It means thousands of good, well-paying jobs for Canadians.

00:29:28.060 It means greater investor confidence and a fair price for our natural resources.

00:29:35.120 And it's clear that we have the jurisdictional authority to ensure that it's completed.

00:29:41.580 That's why we're working diligently to remove the investment risks, the politically motivated investment risks, so that this project can go ahead as planned.

00:29:51.340 Hey, welcome back.

00:29:52.420 That was a press conference this morning at 9 a.m. in Ottawa.

00:29:55.560 It was hailed as the most important announcement coming from Bill Morneau on the Kinder Morgan pipeline.

00:30:00.420 The House media of the Liberal Party, that is the state broadcaster, the CBC, hailed it as an important announcement.

00:30:05.980 I did not detect anything substantial whatsoever.

00:30:09.520 Nothing you could pin down like a watermelon seed.

00:30:12.060 You squish it from the right, it moves left.

00:30:13.500 You squish it from the left, it moves right.

00:30:15.100 There was nothing new there.

00:30:16.480 And the reason that's an issue is that Kinder Morgan has announced that if they do not have a resolution to the political impasse that's blocking their $7.4 billion pipeline,

00:30:24.740 well, if they don't have a resolution by the end of May, they're out of here.

00:30:27.800 They'll write off the billion they've spent and they'll just go invest someplace less crazy.

00:30:33.180 Joining us now to talk about this press conference is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, who is also our Alberta Bureau Chief from the heart of oil country.

00:30:40.560 Sheila, great to see you again.

00:30:42.580 Hey, Ezra.

00:30:43.100 Thanks for having me.

00:30:44.080 Well, thanks for taking the time.

00:30:45.160 I thought maybe there would be some scheme or some law or some order.

00:30:52.080 I mean, a month ago, the Liberals said they were going to bring in legislation.

00:30:55.100 They haven't done so.

00:30:56.920 Maybe they would get tough on B.C.

00:30:58.600 Who's kidding whom?

00:30:59.200 They're not going to get tough on B.C.

00:31:00.380 They need the votes and seats in that province.

00:31:03.760 They're just going to wait out the clock and blame Kinder Morgan when they leave in two weeks. 1.00

00:31:09.460 I think so.

00:31:12.260 And I think that there was nothing that Bill Morneau said there that couldn't have been said for Energy East or the Northern Gateway Pipeline.

00:31:22.200 He said, you know, this will amount to thousands of good paying jobs and a fair value for a resource.

00:31:27.820 Well, yeah, all those other pipelines that they didn't fight for would have done all those things, too.

00:31:32.480 So, you know, really, what's the point except, like you say, to kick the ball down the road and then point the finger at Kinder Morgan when they finally had enough of Justin Trudeau and his liberal procrastination?

00:31:45.760 Yeah.

00:31:46.020 You know, it was so vague.

00:31:47.540 It was so vague.

00:31:48.580 I remember about a month ago when Jim Carr, the invisible energy minister, did a little scrum on Parliament Hill and said, all options are on the table, which I think he meant to sound really tough.

00:31:58.840 And some journalists said, well, can you name one?

00:32:01.280 And he said, oh, all options are on the table.

00:32:04.120 Well, can you give us an example?

00:32:05.480 No, all of them.

00:32:07.260 I think when you're talking that way, it's pretty clear that you have no options on the table because you don't even know what the options are because you haven't spent a minute thinking about it because you don't care and you think it's done anyways and you don't care about votes in Alberta because they're Albertans.

00:32:20.880 Well, they say all options are on the table, but the only option they ever propose is just throwing money in the air and hoping some company stops to pick it up.

00:32:27.960 I mean, they haven't proposed anything real.

00:32:32.160 They proposed this new legislation that would help get the pipeline done.

00:32:35.580 But the deadline is two weeks away and that hasn't even been remotely close to tabled yet.

00:32:41.220 Yeah.

00:32:41.520 You know, I want to jump to our clip two, Hannah.

00:32:44.840 I want to show this clip two because there's a little dose of unreality here that you got to pay attention to.

00:32:51.520 Can you play clip two? Look at this, Sheila.

00:32:55.400 Second, if Kinder Morgan at some stage decides not to proceed with the Trans Mountain Expansion Project, the indemnity against financial loss would still be in place for another party who might wish to take over the project.

00:33:09.840 Say what?

00:33:10.420 Does Bill Morneau think that if, and I'm going to say when, Kinder Morgan leaves in two weeks, having burnt a billion dollars, having been killed by social license and lawlessness on the ground,

00:33:28.360 and a liberal government that won't lift a finger and punish Saskatchewan for not accepting an unconstitutional carbon tax, but won't touch British Columbia for its unconstitutional carbon tax,

00:33:38.320 does Bill Morneau think that there's some other investor who says, yeah, I got $7.4 billion and I'd like to take Kinder Morgan's seat in this ordeal?

00:33:50.140 I think, I don't know if he believes that.

00:33:52.420 Does he believe that?

00:33:53.160 Does he even know the words he's saying?

00:33:54.640 Who are these companies?

00:33:58.640 I mean, I kind of keep my ear to the ground on these sorts of things.

00:34:02.220 And if Bill Morneau can't say, you know, there's this other interested company, if no other companies are even whispering about this, I mean, TransCanada has had it with Canada.

00:34:15.780 Billions and billions and billions of dollars have already evacuated the Canadian oil patch, Statoil, for example.

00:34:23.400 ConocoPhillips, they've had it with us.

00:34:26.660 There are no companies who are going to take this over.

00:34:30.460 And Bill Morneau knows that.

00:34:32.280 I just, I don't know why he doesn't think that we don't know it also.

00:34:37.420 Yeah.

00:34:37.740 You know what I know and you know, but I'm not even sure if Bill Morneau knows.

00:34:42.100 The Trans Mountain Pipeline, I think he said expansion project.

00:34:47.480 Like, it exists.

00:34:48.820 I've seen its terminus with my own eyes.

00:34:52.380 It's been pumping away quietly for pretty much since the Second World War.

00:34:56.980 It was an engineering miracle to take oil through the Rocky Mountains.

00:35:00.720 That's why it's called the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:35:03.200 And hundreds of thousands of barrels a day.

00:35:05.160 This is just an expansion project.

00:35:06.820 So they've got the pipe.

00:35:08.120 It's been on this route for 70 years.

00:35:12.120 When BC's population was tiny, everyone's grown up around it.

00:35:16.240 It supplies oil to BC.

00:35:18.720 So to expand that, how can another company expand Kinder Morgan's pipeline?

00:35:25.660 That's like if someone wanted to renovate their house and they said, ah, forget it.

00:35:29.040 I'm not renovating this house.

00:35:30.720 And someone said, well, someone might want to come and renovate your house.

00:35:33.880 So, you know, it's not just you, mister.

00:35:36.740 Well, it sort of is, I think.

00:35:39.920 Well, yeah.

00:35:40.600 I mean, this pipeline, most of it is going to be built in the existing pipeline easement.

00:35:44.820 So the land that Kinder Morgan has already allocated for the pipeline expansion, that's where this is going to go.

00:35:51.700 It's not, you know, and that's another point in all of this.

00:35:55.800 It is so crazy.

00:35:57.840 This pipeline has been a no-brainer from the very beginning.

00:36:01.860 It should have been the easiest energy infrastructure project in the country's history to get done.

00:36:07.140 And that's just twinning a pipeline in the land the pipeline company already has allocated.

00:36:13.220 And the mismanagement of the federal liberals coupled with, you know, the opposition of an unelected NDP government in BC has just had this thing turn into a complete runaway to the point where a company is just going to say, you know what?

00:36:28.240 No, no, $8 billion will cut our losses.

00:36:32.640 It's insane.

00:36:33.960 I want to play just one more clip.

00:36:35.460 This is the last clip.

00:36:36.960 And you can see he's sort of preparing the ground to blamestorm, to say it's Kinder Morgan's fault that they're not willing to stick around.

00:36:48.220 Here, let's play the last clip.

00:36:50.780 And third, any support that Canada provides to ensure that the project proceeds must be sound and fair and beneficial to Canadians.

00:37:02.200 We understand that a private sector company would want to maximize their profit.

00:37:08.420 Likewise, we have a responsibility to act in the best interests of all Canadians.

00:37:14.300 I think that's some sort of way of saying we're not going to be ruled by Kinder Morgan.

00:37:19.240 Kinder Morgan has never asked for a dollar, has never asked for anything other than the law of the land be followed, which it is not.

00:37:27.380 It's really weird, that passive aggressive, well, Kinder Morgan ought to know we're going to stand up for Canada's interests and we're not going to be ruled by their profit motive.

00:37:36.160 They're not asking for money.

00:37:37.560 They just, they are bringing the money.

00:37:40.100 It's their money.

00:37:40.700 They're not asking for money.

00:37:41.740 That was Bill Morneau and Rachel Notley's cockamamie idea.

00:37:45.180 I think you can start to hear that bitter, passive aggressive, well, it's their fault.

00:37:52.120 This is, this is done.

00:37:53.740 Stick a fork in it.

00:37:54.680 It's done.

00:37:56.620 Well, if you don't want to be ruled by profit motive of a private company, don't offer to get into business with them, to get around the opposition that the federal liberals have spent so long fomenting.

00:38:07.980 I mean, you're not serious about getting pipelines done if you have somebody like Gerald Butts of the World Wildlife Fund and Zoe Caron on the government payroll.

00:38:19.760 I mean, you don't legitimize the anti-oil voices by sticking them in government.

00:38:25.360 You marginalize them if you're serious about getting a pipeline done.

00:38:28.360 But the liberals just keep hiring these people and then wondering why pipeline companies don't want to have anything to do with us.

00:38:34.720 Yeah.

00:38:35.040 You know, it's, I think, accepted wisdom that Gerald Butts is the de facto prime minister of Canada.

00:38:41.480 I mentioned Justin Trudeau on his 56th world trip.

00:38:45.320 Gerald Butts never takes a vacation.

00:38:47.520 He's always running the show.

00:38:50.800 Trudeau has told his caucus, if you get a memo from Gerald Butts, take it as if it's me.

00:38:56.200 Trudeau told the ethics commissioner, oh, I couldn't have lobbied the Aga Khan because when I attend meetings, I don't actually get into the substance.

00:39:02.940 I just come in, make sure the relationship's good.

00:39:05.340 I leave and others handle it.

00:39:06.820 I mean, this is what he said.

00:39:08.400 So it's not that the liberals have hired Gerald Butts.

00:39:11.960 The liberals are Gerald Butts.

00:39:13.380 And he has placed all of his allies in key ministries.

00:39:17.100 He's put the head of the Sierra Club, the head of the Pembina Institute, the Tides Foundation staff.

00:39:23.440 He's seated, put them, embedded them within all the departments that matter here.

00:39:28.760 So it's not even why did the government hire Gerald Butts.

00:39:31.800 Gerald Butts is more than any other backroom chief.

00:39:36.580 He is the de facto prime minister.

00:39:38.880 Of course, this pipeline will not get built.

00:39:41.160 Of course, Bill Morneau hasn't wasted his time coming up with a plan because there is no, no, no chance any plan will be enacted.

00:39:50.320 I'm sorry, I'm ranting here.

00:39:51.540 Sheila, last word to you.

00:39:52.580 I mean, it's pretty clear that Trudeau doesn't want to be the prime minister of no.

00:40:00.600 So he wants to be the prime minister of, well, we tried, but the evil capitalist companies just were a little too greedy for us.

00:40:09.040 So he doesn't want to deal with a political hot potato that he's going to be left with when he sees another pipeline leave Canada.

00:40:16.900 But for all those reasons that Bill Morneau said that they will stick up for Kinder Morgan,

00:40:23.880 those are all the reasons that they should have been sticking up for every single other energy infrastructure project up and including now.

00:40:30.780 Yeah.

00:40:31.620 A final word I said, I would give you the last word.

00:40:34.240 I never mean that when I say it.

00:40:35.660 I do.

00:40:36.060 I always mean it when I say it, but I can never give you a promise.

00:40:38.920 It reminds me of the show I did a few weeks ago about the little rock quarry company that wanted to invest in Digby Neck, Nova Scotia.

00:40:46.240 They were frustrated by environmentalists.

00:40:48.280 They just won a half billion dollar NAFTA ruling against Canada.

00:40:51.620 It would not surprise me if five years from now we're paying $10 billion to Kinder Morgan because we did not let them invest their own money here.

00:40:59.960 It wouldn't shock me.

00:41:00.780 Sheila, great to see you again.

00:41:03.340 Thanks for having me, Ezra.

00:41:04.700 All right.

00:41:05.120 Nice to see you.

00:41:05.840 I have so much to say on this.

00:41:07.480 So, of course, it's not that I don't want my guests to have the last word.

00:41:10.440 It's just that I keep coming up with more words to add to the last word.

00:41:14.400 And we're joking around, but, of course, this is a terrible story.

00:41:18.040 Billions wasted and, of course, tens of thousands of jobs indirectly as opposed to the thousands of jobs directly.

00:41:24.320 Stay with us.

00:41:25.160 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:41:26.100 Hey, welcome back.

00:41:38.100 On my monologue yesterday about a false accusation of racism after a routine speeding ticket, Keith and Helen, right?

00:41:44.740 I thought the cop was actually quite courteous and he was professional and firm in his approach, but he certainly didn't come off anywhere near racist.

00:41:51.240 I think in this incident it's clear who the racist is.

00:41:53.960 Yeah, I mean, the words race, black, white, did not come up at all in the traffic stop.

00:42:01.680 I mean, it was a very brief interaction, wasn't it?

00:42:04.080 I mean, they were only talking for less than four minutes.

00:42:07.660 He spent more time just literally riding the ticket.

00:42:09.980 She immediately went straight to race when she got in her car and did her Facebook Live video.

00:42:17.440 I do not dispute that in a country as large as the United States, most more than 300 million people, there are racist incidents.

00:42:24.780 And I don't dispute that there are some racist cops.

00:42:26.460 But what we have in the form of these body cams is an instant lie detector that's, you know, you can see with your own eyes what happened here.

00:42:37.620 I believe there is such a dearth of actual institutional racism in America.

00:42:42.040 There's so little of it.

00:42:43.400 But there's such a huge demand for it.

00:42:45.600 Well, demand, high demand, low supply, it draws people into the market to fake it because there's a reward.

00:42:52.620 That woman got hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of views, and she was a hero. 0.99

00:42:57.140 Even now that the truth has come up, I think she's still probably treated like a hero because, really, the lie already ran around the world twice before the truth got its boosts laced up.

00:43:06.800 Lee writes,

00:43:07.420 Well, I'm glad you think so.

00:43:28.640 Tiffany's great.

00:43:29.340 She's been with us as our managing editor since last fall.

00:43:34.340 Well, and it was great to have her on screen because, of course, she does so much work behind the scenes. 0.99

00:43:40.540 But I think this was an issue close to her heart.

00:43:43.300 Well, that's the show for today.

00:43:44.500 What do you think about a 71-day custodial sentence for a husband and wife who repeatedly, repeatedly, and repeatedly, and aggressively threatened to murder their own daughter?

00:43:55.120 And I think, actually, in some ways, the worst part of the story is when the daughter went to police, the mother said to her, 0.99

00:44:01.900 you immediately recant, call yourself a liar, say you're crazy, check yourself into a hospital, or we will murder you. 0.98

00:44:11.040 In some ways, I think that's the worst part. 0.99

00:44:13.580 And for the lawyer just to say, oh, you know, it's just, they didn't mean it.

00:44:17.420 I mean, come on.

00:44:19.020 Come on.

00:44:19.540 Who doesn't threaten their daughter with murder?

00:44:22.780 It's just a manner of speech.

00:44:24.660 And the judge bought it.

00:44:27.860 And the judge bought it.

00:44:28.940 More than that, the media, they just said, let's pretend this didn't happen.

00:44:33.500 Well, that's why the rebel's here.

00:44:34.740 We'll tell you what happened.

00:44:35.720 I give credit to the Daily Gainer and their Moncton City newspaper.

00:44:38.800 They did, in fact, do this story.

00:44:41.000 You've got to pay for it behind the paywall.

00:44:42.460 Fair enough.

00:44:43.460 But if it weren't for that, this story would have been reported nowhere.

00:44:48.120 Nowhere.

00:44:48.520 If these had been alt-right white supremacists threatening people with murder, I think it would have been the lead story on The National.

00:44:55.300 But because it's Trudeau's Syrian migrants, let's just pretend it never happened. 1.00

00:44:59.680 Well, that's the show for today, folks.

00:45:01.580 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:45:18.520 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - May 17, 2018

Ezra Levant Show May 16 2018

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