Ezra Levant Show May 21 2018
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Author and historian Conrad Black joins the show to talk about his new book, Donald Trump, A President Like No Other, and why he thinks Trump is a better president than all the other presidents in the history of the United States.
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Tonight, a special conversation with author and historian Conrad Black
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about his new book, Donald Trump, A President Like No Other.
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It's May 21st, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
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Welcome back. Well, a very exciting day today on Victoria Day.
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The entire show will be dedicated to a new book on Donald Trump,
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The book is called Donald Trump, A President Like No Other.
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And joining us now in studio is Lord Black himself.
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Welcome to the show. Great to have you in studio.
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I'm a fan of yours. I haven't been in a long time.
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When I heard you had this new book out, I was nervous
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because you've written some very thick books of history before.
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This was a 256-page, breezy, readable, fun book.
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I think you managed to be fair, but not to suck up to Trump
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And the true Trump is, in fact, a very entertaining person.
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So a book about him should be rather entertaining.
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You know, a president like no other, that's sort of an ambiguous statement.
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You could say that if you were a Trump hater or a Trump lover.
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There's never been one like that, of that country anyway.
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What's interesting to me is a lot of his critics today,
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or at least people who wanted to bask in his celebrity and his wealth.
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Well, they'd see him as fine in his place, as a sort of blowhard billionaire.
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But the idea that he wanted to take over the system
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and kick out the people that he said had misgoverned the country for the last 15 years,
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obviously that offends all those who identify with the people
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who've been established in office in both parties all that time.
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You have an interesting and quick history of his family life,
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there's always been a drop of the showboat in the American culture,
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I mean, the Declaration of Independence is beautifully written by Thomas Jefferson.
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But in the midst of it, there's a blood libel on the native people.
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There is an indictment of poor old King George III
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that makes him sound like someone who was on trial at Nuremberg.
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He wasn't a terribly competent king, but he wasn't an evil man, for heaven's sakes.
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And the Americans were the first important country in the world
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that weren't defined by a culture unique to them.
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I mean, the French spoke French, the Spanish spoke Spanish, and so forth.
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And the English were the, or British were the English-speaking country.
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So the Americans, as a substitute, devised the theory that we are the first free country.
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They had no more civil liberties than the British or the Swiss or the Dutch
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But that was what they staked out, and it's worked.
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In a way, it was a country more about the future than the past.
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You know, the history of Trump, would you call him a swashbuckler?
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But P.T. Barnum, all of that, but also a statesman.
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He runs, I mean, in some ways, he's a slightly down market salesman.
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But in some ways, he's a great patriotic American leader.
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Right now, there's a question of black America.
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And you've seen Kanye West and others break with the taboo and consider Republicans.
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And it's funny because until very, very recently, Donald Trump was the star subject of hundreds of rap songs because in some ways he embodied the audacious American dream.
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And he was sort of anti-establishment, which they identified with.
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Well, that's how is it possible to be a blue collar billionaire?
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Because the blue collar thing, it really, it's not as if he ever worked with a blue collar on.
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But the blue collar aspect and the way you mean it is a person not interested in spending all his time going to opera committees and being on the social pages of the New York Times.
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And he's someone who started relatively modestly in socioeconomic terms and made a billion dollars, but still has the sort of every man mentality and relates to the people.
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You know, there's a little passage in your book about how to save money.
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He would mix his own extermination poison just when he was.
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Don't leave your viewers under any illusion of what he was trying to exterminate.
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No, but his father said, look, we don't have to go and buy this stuff.
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We got to have roaches in our buildings, but we can make our own, you know, the insecticide.
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But what told me, what was interesting to me is that other people, especially those, he didn't come from, he came from some wealth.
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And the idea that he would literally get his hands dirty was something that many people would find either off-putting or too grubby.
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His father was a wealthy man, but he didn't start as a wealthy man.
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And they didn't, they weren't the wealthy New York that the world knows.
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And his father had two Cadillac limousines licensed, New York State license, F1 and F2, FT1 and FT2, Fred Trump.
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But, and he went to Fordham University and to Horton, University of Pennsylvania.
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So, and then prior to that, he matriculated from a New York State military academy.
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So, absolutely, it was not a rags to riches story, but it was never the socioeconomic top.
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He went to the construction sites, his famous pictures of Trump with a hard hat in the site.
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Now, any boss could come through, but I think he dealt with enough frontline people, grassroots people to keep that sensibility.
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Ezra, on his holidays, even in high school, he would work for his father on construction sites, not in the office, on construction sites.
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And then, and including, he went to Horton because it was the only business school that had a specialty course in real estate, including construction.
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And so he saw it from absolutely the most basic position working with his father's work crews right up through university.
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You know, Charles Murray, the great American and a scholar.
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Wrote about coming apart, was one of his books, and how the white working class has been disconnected from the fancy Manhattan, L.A. cultural capitals.
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And he developed a quiz called, How Thick Is Your Bubble?
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And there's questions in it that are sort of startling.
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Have you ever worked at a job with physical labor that you come home and your body is sore?
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Like, questions like that that remind liberals, maybe you don't know, maybe you're leftist, but you don't know the working class.
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I found, and I think of Donald Trump, and we've got some video clips of Trump over the years, and I'd like to play one for you.
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Just before you do it, if I may say one thing, I know Charles Murray, and he was here in Toronto several months ago, and there was a dinner for him, quite a large dinner that I went to.
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And they invited questions after he'd spoken, so I asked him, and this was very shortly after Trump was inaugurated, and I asked him if it were not the case that if he succeeded in what he was trying to do, it would possibly reverse the trend he was describing.
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He said, absolutely, if he succeeds, it will reverse it, because he is not out of touch.
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And there's a respect that he respects working men and women.
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In a way that traditional liberals would put them, like, in a glass case at a museum and wouldn't want to touch them for fear they had mixed the rat poison.
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They would profess sympathy for them as a group, but not wish to associate with them as individuals.
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And there's one little clip, and I use it from time to time on my shows.
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It was at a rally, I think it was in West Virginia, which is about something that's almost as dirty in the mind of the fancy set as an exterminator's pesticide, and that is coal.
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It's just a very simple moment, but let me show you a quick clip I'd like to talk about.
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You know, what a contrast between Hillary Clinton, who in one of her debates said there's going to be a lot of coal miners out of work, Barack Obama, the same thing.
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They say they're for the working class, the working poor, but only if it's, I don't know, kind of aesthetically fashionable jobs.
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That's a shocking thing to say in today's environmental era.
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But you'll recall President Obama, when he was running for the office and in the primaries eight, nine years ago, running against Hillary Clinton, when she won in Pennsylvania, he made those disparaging remarks about blue-collar Pennsylvanians who took out their frustrations in their lives with guns and religion.
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But, I mean, that's much closer to the disparagement those people feel.
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They might, in their minds, think we want to better their lot.
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They're not living well and we want to help them.
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I found that Trump digs coal comment interesting for two reasons.
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First of all, it's one thing to even say you're with a coal miner.
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Because that's an obsolete, old school, that's dirty, that's blue-collar white man stuff.
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But then Trump actually meant it and he pulled the United States out of the Paris Global Warming Agreement.
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Which was the dumbest treaty in history, rivaled only by the Iran Nuclear Treaty.
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I think everyone knows the Paris Global Warming Treaty is sort of a sham.
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Trump pulled America out and the sky didn't fall.
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And meanwhile, the countries left behind, who are advanced countries,
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are now having intense discussions amongst themselves about what they are going to do
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about the $100 billion a year that China and India, the world's greatest polluters,
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fast-growing economies, are expecting from them.
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And there's a few quotes from your book I want to give.
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I tell you, it was hard for me to find excerpts from the book because so many things were...
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A lot of people say, ah, Trump, he's insulting.
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You know, he uses words like he calls country shitholes and stuff.
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One of the things he's so good at, I think it's a Manhattan thing, is nicknames.
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You give people a nickname and it sticks, they're doomed.
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Instead of leaking research and gossip about rivals, Trump just trotted rumors out directly,
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Thus, as time went by to establish that Senator Lindsey Graham had given his private cell phone
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number to Trump, he gave it to a crowd of thousands and he repeated spurious stories about Senator
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Ted Cruz's father having had an association with Harvey Oswald.
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And, but, but I think the key is your first point there.
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Every politician does that, but they just leak those insults or accusations or wild gossip
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And it's shocking, but at the same time, it's absolutely refreshing and honest.
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Well, I'm not always altogether honest, but I agree.
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The, the, I mean, Franklin D. Roosevelt was always above the fray, but he had, he had some
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of his entourage who were specialists in absolutely harpooning the opponents, you say, but his,
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No, no, no, he, he, he, he tries to get people to laugh and he's good at it.
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Well, and that's the thing, because he said, you're laughing out of shock because he says
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something you're not supposed to, but then you're laughing because if there's a grain
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And, uh, when he, low energy Jeb, it sticks because you think, yeah, he's sort of low energy.
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And he's saying something you should never say.
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I said, she doesn't have the stamina and I don't believe she does have the stamina to
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Hillary has experience, but it's bad experience.
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We have been saying Hillary Clinton has no stamina and she was just 10 feet away from him
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And there were some health scares for Hillary Clinton on the camera.
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Well, she fainted on camera, you know, going after the, uh, uh, 9-11 Memorial Day, you
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know, and, and, uh, so there was, and she said she'd had pneumonia for a few days.
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And, you know, we see later in some of the, uh, access to information documents that came
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I mean, and I don't know if that's something more serious, but Trump just put out there
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what the under noose, that he just sort of murmurs.
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And the other side of it is he does have superhuman stamina.
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Even people who don't like him at all admit that he is astonishingly persevering and strong
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I think he's actually a year older than Hillary Clinton.
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It's a, he's, he's just about to turn 72 or just as, and I think she's just coming up
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I, um, I want to say something else because again, until you put this in words, one of the
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things I value, I mean, I followed Donald Trump closely as so many, as the whole world does.
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And I think I've followed him closely because I'm a journalist and I sense things.
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But one of the things I like the best about your book is you crystallized my hunch into
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Let me quote something that I really found valuable.
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Um, Trump has learned something about how to gain and hold the respect that is naturally
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available to the chief of state and the country has somewhat got used to him.
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There have been no bungled foreign initiatives, fewer indiscretions.
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His economic program is working and his enemies are largely a tired coalition of character assassins
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Markedly fewer malapropisms, no, fewer indiscretions.
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But when you think about it, other than the bluntness, he hasn't screwed it up.
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And you would think a guy who's always tweeting and shooting from the hip would blow it up.
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But early on, there were some tweets that were ill-considered, but there are very few of
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And look, this may be just me, but my impression is when you see him now, he has both hands
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in the podium, you see the seal of office on the podium, and he looks and sounds like
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I mean, he's very fluent, and he speaks with authority, and not in that somewhat boastful
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I mean, when the question was raised about the Nobel Prize, he said, look, that's a nice
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What I want is a victory for everybody, for the whole world, not a prize for me.
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Now, that was a very intelligent presidential thing to say, and he might not have said that
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And by the way, there's no chance he's going to get that.
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That's determined by a small committee of the Norwegian Parliament.
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Give it to Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama just for getting elected and getting
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But the presidents they should have given it to, President Truman, President Eisenhower,
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President Kennedy, President Nixon, they didn't give it to them.
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The very first thing in your book is you dedicate it to the presidents you've known.
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The fact is, I knew Jimmy Carter, and I knew George W. Bush, but I must say, I didn't want
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to say this, but I didn't particularly respect them as presidents.
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Because I want to ask you a little bit about him.
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Well, because we own the Chicago, my associates and I own the Chicago Sun-Times, and it had
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And it had been owned by Marshall Field, a department store company and person.
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And so he had a low-rise sort of almost, you know, with escalators rather than elevators.
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So the Trump organization's bid was the best bid.
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And all my American directors said, oh, you know, hang on to your wallet.
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But he came in exactly on time, exactly on budget, built a very much admired building,
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98 stories, had the place full six months before it opened.
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We were neighbors in both New York and Palm Beach.
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And he was very loyal to me in my legal difficulties.
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He volunteered to come and give testimony for me.
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I haven't seen him lately, and I obviously don't bother him in his present position.
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My theory about Trump and why he gets away with not malapropisms, but his bluntness,
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the shithouse comment, for example, or his criticism.
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Unlike Hillary Clinton, who, for example, I don't know if you remember that clip when she
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laughed before the camera was on about we came, we saw, we killed Muammar Gaddafi.
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So there was a public Hillary and a private Hillary.
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There was the Hillary that acted very presidential.
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And then there was the brutal Hillary behind the scenes.
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The one who gave this secret speech to the South American bankers about open borders and
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The one who would give speeches and take the big dough from Wall Street and then deem it.
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My theory is that Donald Trump is absolutely the same in private, in public, absolutely
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the same level of audacity, profanity, brutality, humor.
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Well, it's like anything else, like all of us in our jobs, we get better at it as we
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And, you know, he's seeming more like a president than he did the day he started.
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The Donald Trump one knows is the one one sees.
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What is surprising to people who know him are these portrayals of him as a horrible,
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I mean, he's a tough businessman, but he is a, you know, a hard-driving man whose objectives
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There's so many great, I don't want to give it away.
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With President Trump, no setback is admitted or accepted.
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For him, rebuffs are really victories, disguised victories, moral victories, or the preludes
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Hyperbole, truthful and otherwise, is his common parlance.
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He has been a very successful man, and he's repeatedly outwitted his opponents, which is
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You don't hear snobbery used against a billionaire, as in the snobs attack a billionaire.
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But America is reversing its decline and wrenching itself loose from the habits of lassitude,
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Because normally, snobs don't hate a billionaire.
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I think there was condescension to him before as a Bulgarian.
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Once he was elected president, the envy became a tremendous incrustation on the minds of a
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great many wealthy people who had thought of him as a culturally inferior person, even
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though he was, in terms of his wealth, a parallel to themselves.
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But now that he is the 43rd direct successor to General George Washington as president,
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I think the envy is the size of what used to be called Mount McKinley.
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I believe President Obama changed his own native name.
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And if it's a defeat, it's just a victory in disguise.
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And he did get the mandate, the coercive part of it, canceled in his tax bill.
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I mean, I learned from your book, I guess I should have known, but I didn't know it,
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that he really seriously considered Ross Perot's Reform Party as an option.
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My fear when he won, I thought, geez, he doesn't have deep roots in Washington.
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All these insiders are going to run circles around him.
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And I felt like that's how his first six months sort of was until he put his own people around him.
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But also, Ezra, he had attacked the whole system, both parties and all factions of both parties,
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including the Republican leaders in the Congress and most of the Republican senators and congressmen.
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And so for the first six months, they just sat in their hands.
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They didn't do anything to put his program through.
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But you see all the never-Trumpers are leaving.
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And they're in lockstep behind him now trying to get his program through.
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So he's, you know, it was a war on the whole system.
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Now he's won over the congressional Republicans.
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The book is called Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other by Regnery.
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We'll have the link for Amazon underneath this video.
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So I think one of the reasons Trump may be successful, you allude to it, being in real
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estate in New York City, you're not working with, you know, Swiss, you know, bankers.
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Donald Trump is not a blundering reactionary, but a battle-hardened veteran of very difficult
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businesses, full of unethical people, and he's no Eagle Scout himself.
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He is a very tough and almost demiurgically energetic man.
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His personality is so startling and at times garish that there's a large section of the
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But if his persistence brings continued success, he will accede to this board of majority.
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I think the reason he can stare down Kim Jong-un, that's still in progress, the reason he can
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stare down the UN on the climate BS, the reason he may succeed with Iran is because he's used
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to dealing with some of the toughest guys, including the mob, which was in the construction
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I think he's the first, well, not the first, he's the biggest bruiser in that office since
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You saw when that guy charged onto his platform in one of the Ohio cities, I forget the date
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Yeah, not Cleveland or Cincinnati, but one of those other Ohio cities.
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It was a hardening of his fists and turning towards this person and security.
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And while his doctors have advised him to lose some weight, he's quite muscular.
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And he does, to use his word, have the stamina.
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You mentioned Theodore Roosevelt because he was a rancher and a man and an explorer and
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a person who required a great deal of himself physically.
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I mean, Franklin, because he lost the use of his legs, he had bigger biceps than Jack
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Dempsey and massive chest because his upper body did everything, you see.
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That's one of his crutches is how he propelled himself around.
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But he is, Donald Trump certainly is, you know, he's a can-do, let's-get-it-done guy.
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And I think that the John Kerry's of the world who say, well, but Article 42 of the U.N.
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He knows BS when he sees it, and he sees a con man in Kim Jong-un's approach to the world.
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He's the president of the U.S., and he knows the power of the United States.
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But the idea of approaching different countries with diverging motives to those of the U.S.
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interest and saying, in effect, look here, you know, I represent and I'm the commander
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in chief of the greatest military power in the world, and I won't stand for this.
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That was not how he operated, but Donald will do that.
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I remember when Barack Obama was photographed holding a book, I think it was by Fareed Zakaria,
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That is the exact opposite of Trump's slogan, make America great again.
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I remember when Obama was asked at his first NATO meeting, do you believe in American exceptionalism?
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And he said, yeah, the same way the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.
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Maybe you wouldn't have had Trump if you didn't have Obama first.
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George W. really brought on the economic crisis.
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And even though they were Clinton's measures, the housing bubble.
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But he sat there for eight years until it blew up.
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And he was rather indiscriminate in his use of military force.
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And then you add to that Obama's flatlining the economy and his passivity and, frankly, weakness in foreign policy.
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The self-dissolving red line and that kind of thing.
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And the Americans just couldn't take it anymore.
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But the key metric, in my opinion, was GDP growth per capita went from 4.5% with Reagan, 3.9% with Clinton, 2% with George W., 1% with Obama.
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And again, this is something we talked a little bit about, Charles Murray.
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The fancy class can handle the decline or they don't see the decline.
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You know, you've been very generous with your time today.
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I want to talk a little bit about something that pure conservatives, libertarians would have criticized before.
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So he threatens to upset the pure libertarian globalism on economics and a Milton Friedman type and all the think tank conservatives would be opposed to it.
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And back then, the economic challenger to America was Japan, not China.
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But I think if you swap China in, you could play this tape today and it would be Trump in 2018.
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Here, without further ado, here's a clip from Trump on Oprah 30 years ago.
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I got a full-page ad in major U.S. newspapers last year criticizing U.S. foreign policy.
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I'd make our allies, forgetting about the enemies, the enemies you can't talk to so easily.
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Something's going to happen over the next number of years with this country because you can't keep going on losing $200 billion.
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And yet we let Japan come in and dump everything right into our markets and everything.
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If you ever go to Japan right now and try to sell something, forget about it, Oprah.
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And, hey, I have tremendous respect for the Japanese people.
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I mean, you can respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you, but they are beating the hell out of this country.
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The poorest person in Kuwait, they live like kings.
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We make it possible for them to sell their oil.
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Why aren't they paying us 25 percent of what they're making?
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That kind of talk, free market peers was, oh, that's terrible.
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You're going to throw the world back in a recession.
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Apple repatriated a quarter of a trillion dollars.
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And he actually hasn't, other than his new squabble with China, he actually hasn't done anything other than used a bully pulpit yet.
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Deregulated to encourage investment and change the psychology.
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I mean, half of economics is psychology, and he's changed that.
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The soft point is workforce participation's at 62.8 percent, and it should be a bit higher.
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But you remember on his trade thing, he's all for trade.
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He wants the United States to export more rather than the others to export less to the U.S., as long as it's fair trade.
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I mean, let's just look in one sentence at Mexico.
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That is, a trade surplus with the U.S. of $65 billion.
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They were facilitating the entry into the United States of half a million completely unskilled people.
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They may be good people, but unskilled people illegally every year.
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And they were enticing American factories away to, you know, just inside the Mexican border.
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And then encouraged them to export back into the U.S., creating unemployment in the United States.
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And encouraged them to retain their profits in Mexico so they didn't pay taxes in the U.S.
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Now, you don't blame the Mexicans for doing what they can, but the United States doesn't have to put up with that.
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It's 20 times as powerful a country as Mexico, and that's not fair trade.
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I mean, on Twitter, you can search individual people how many times they've used the word China, Iran.
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I went through every single tweet Donald Trump's ever written on China.
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And there were, I'm talking about tweets five years ago when he was not really in, be careful, I'm on the campaign mode.
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Though he did say to the New York Times some months ago, when I asked him this directly, he said,
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yes, the fact is I've gone gently on China on the economic side because the number one crisis at the moment is North Korea, and we need them there.
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But he's also not afraid to call them out when they, for example, they broke the North Korean embargo.
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So that's that same bluntness that we saw against Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush.
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In a tweet, he'll call out little rocket man in North Korea.
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In a tweet, he'll say, I've had it with giving money to the Palestinians.
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On China, to stand up for industries that no one would care about.
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Again, these are the blue-collar folks, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio.
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And they're just supposed to roll over and yield to the forces of history.
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States haven't voted Republican in a generation.
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I think they're still pandering to the coastal elites in Hollywood and Manhattan.
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There are a few of them who still think they can destroy the Trump administration.
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And there are some who think this is their opportunity to get ahead of the future
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You know, the Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders left.
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But I think the great sort of center of that party is very confused right now.
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We're almost out of time, and I appreciate you spending it with us.
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I mean, I knew I'd like it, but I didn't think it would.
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But, I mean, Jordan Peterson's book, I'm a super fan of that.
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To see all the sniping attacks on Trump cataloged, and you're, oh, yeah, that one.
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And you almost forgot, until I saw them cataloged there, just the muck that's being thrown in the guy.
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In theory, the argument was that he was going soft on the Ku Klux Klan of the Nazis.
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Well, and maybe that's the reason why the media has fallen in the polls in terms of people's trust for it.
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So they think they're the arbiters of whether or not Trump is moral.
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What really frustrates them is that he's used the social media to it with them.
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I mean, he issues a tweet, 45 million people get it at once.
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And their research, the president's research is that those people send it on within 10 minutes to at least 45 million more.
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So 90 million people are in almost direct touch with the president in 10 minutes.
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The book is called The President Like No Other.
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I don't think the social media titans figure that out.
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I mean, New York Times two weeks in advance was saying 92% chance Hillary's going to win.
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And I think shortly after Trump won, when the people said what went wrong, they said social media, they started to crack down.
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They deleted 30,000 Facebook pages from Marine Le Pen in France.
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We see Silicon Valley really tightening up, mainly on conservatives.
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Well, Google's starting to take the heat from being a left-wing operation.
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And Mark Zuckerberg, when he testified at Congress.
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But they didn't do anything other than they roasted.
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Donald Trump wins because he goes around the media, direct to the people.
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But if he doesn't, we mentioned briefly Teddy Roosevelt.
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Will Donald Trump take on this oligopoly, these extremely powerful people, as powerful in our day as J.D. Rockefeller?
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I mean, people have the right to say what they want, mean less.
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But I think what he will not hesitate to do is focus the irritation of his followers and himself on them.
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And even now, you know, every week, as you know, he goes out into the middle of the country to Oklahoma or Arkansas or Iowa or something.
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But they pack out the local stadium, a big stadium, and he harangues his supporters for about 90 minutes.
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And then at some point, he points at the press box and says, they are the authors of these lies.
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But if you mean actually try and legislate against political opponents in business, I don't think that would work in the United States.
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I think it's our greatest flaw as a country in Canada not having it.
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I'm talking about—and maybe I'm getting too technical here—but it would be like a telephone company listening to your conversation saying,
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oh, we're going to shut you off now because you're saying things on our telephone we don't like.
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It sounds like maybe you don't see this as grave a threat as I do.
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The truth is I don't follow it as much as you probably do.
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But I think if it is happening, I would see it as grave a thought as you described.
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But if that is what they're doing, public opinion would support him if he did that.
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I think that's the gravest threat to his re-election.
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The president's ability to mobilize public opinion, any president, if he knows what he's doing, is very great.
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I have one last question because I know our time is up.
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But I've said before, and I'd like your reaction to this, I've said if Donald Trump builds the wall, no matter what, he'll be re-elected.
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If he does not build the wall, no matter what, he will not be re-elected.
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I think the wall is essential to his credibility, to his base, to the economic part of his platform, the security part of his platform, and his war against the fancy opinion set.
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It doesn't actually have to be physically a wall.
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And if, because of the chicanery in the Congress, he can't get the wall done, if he deploys military and paramilitary units to make sure that the illegal entries are reduced to practically none,
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he'll fulfill his promise, saying he's doing that as he continues to work to build the wall.
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But I think I'd flip the coin also in this way.
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He is going to go after the Democrats as the party of open borders, let anyone come in, let them vote, even if they're not citizens.
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And it is, as they claim, improper to allow census takers to ask people if they are, in fact, citizens, which is just incomprehensible to me.
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He's going to hang that around their neck like a toilet seat, and he's going to kill them.
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But if he abandoned the immigration issue, I agree, he would go down, but he's not going to do that.
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I've got about 300 more questions we're going to have to save for another day.
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It's, I think it's the, every Trump supporter needs to read it because it's an antidote to so much of the poison out there.
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Yeah, I mean, look, Donald can get on anyone's nerves, including mine, but, you know, there he is.
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Donald Trump, the author, is Conrad Black, who spent the last nearly an hour with me.
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And we'll be back with our regular format tomorrow.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at the Rebel World Headquarters, goodnight, and keep fighting for freedom.