Ezra Levant Show May 22 2018
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Summary
A conservative journalist is attacked in public by a pack of Antifa thugs, while police stand idly and the mainstream media laugh. Ezra exposes the truth behind Canada's open borders immigration policy, and how it's funded by George Soros.
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Tonight, a pack of Antifa thugs assault a conservative journalist while police stand
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by idly and the mainstream media laugh. It's May 22nd and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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I want to show you a group of left-wing men and some women wearing masks, attacking a conservative woman in public.
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In fact, not just in public, but with national TV news cameras capturing every moment.
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Oh, and police standing right there too. And not one of them left a finger to stop it.
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In fact, they sort of had a good laugh about it.
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Last year, we did an undercover investigation at the sophisticated human trafficking going on at the border between New York State and Quebec,
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That's really an unguarded border between the two countries.
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We parted ways with Faith last August, but her journalism here speaks for itself.
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She showed taxi companies, bus companies, all built around smuggling foreigners across that illegal border crossing.
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But the word smuggling implies something secret or hidden or underground.
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That's what was so shocking about Faith's report.
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When you charter a massive bus and make regular trips up from New York City and, you know, you're not really sneaking around.
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They're getting rid of so many illegal migrants, tens of thousands, including many criminals.
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I used to laugh at that phrase, self-deport, the idea that illegal migrants would actually deport themselves from America.
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Yeah, well, thanks to Justin Trudeau, it's actually happening en masse.
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This foolish tweet here, inviting the entire world just to come to Canada, combined with the luxury concierge service provided by the RCMP and by border guards.
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Well, really, what illegal migrants in the U.S. wouldn't self-deport to Canada?
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And now Trudeau and his immigration minister, the Somali-born Ahmed Hassan, they've gone one step further.
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They now offer free health care, jump-to-the-front-of-the-line health care for catastrophic illnesses for any illegal migrant.
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Here's a guy who just waltzed into Canada illegally with stage 4 cancer.
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He calls himself a stateless Palestinian refugee, except that's not true.
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He's in Lebanon, which is a peaceful enough country.
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And then, of course, he moved to New America, which is a great country and peaceful.
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But to him, Canada's even greater because we're going to give him a couple hundred grand worth of health care.
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So, yeah, it's no surprise that about 50,000 illegal migrants in the U.S. have self-deported to Canada,
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every one of them breaking our own laws by coming in at an illegal crossing,
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where our police have been ordered to act like concierges and bellhops and luggage boys.
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As you may know, Justin Trudeau has met several times with George Soros, the billionaire globalist,
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who funds dozens of left-wing lobby groups and has a special focus on mass open borders migration,
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In late 2016, Trudeau signed a contract with Soros' New York-based lobby group
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This is taken from the Government of Canada website.
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Provide a vehicle that mobilizes citizens in direct support of refugees
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and encourages a broader political debate that is supportive of refugee protection.
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Mobilizing citizens and political support for open borders,
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that's ideological campaigning that we are paying Soros to do.
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So Trudeau is shipping migrants from Quebec by bus to Toronto.
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He says all the homeless shelters are now full up.
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Half of all street-level social services are being taken up by these Americans.
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There would be Americans who didn't measure up to America's immigration laws
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So yeah, if you're hungry or homeless in Toronto,
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Get in line behind the Trudeau-Soros migrant lineup.
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is going to cause major problems for the force.
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RCMP officers are not trained as border police,
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and they're certainly not trained to be bellhops.
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I can only imagine how demoralizing it must be deliberately,
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In fact, to assist in lawbreaking at the political order of Justin Trudeau.
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Well, police say it's stressful and irregular for their members.
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that it's taking resources away from serious crime projects.
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So, you know, I mean, these cops aren't meant to be bellhops.
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fight crimes, stop murders, break up drug gangs, whatever.
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He signed a contract with George Soros for this.
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I say again, Faith Goldie left us last year after months after she did her border investigation.
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She's not with us anymore, but that's irrelevant to today's story.
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Over the weekend, Faith, on her own, went to the same border crossing to report on the scene.
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Since her visit last year, it's become a veritable refugee camp with semi-permanent structures.
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It's the new normal, as if Angela Merkel's disaster was a role model, not a cautionary tale.
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So she went there to videotape things, and there was going to be some protesters against open borders.
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It's a huge issue in Quebec, a mainstream issue.
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Politicians there aren't as cowardly and politically correct as they are in English Canada.
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That's why Trudeau is sending the migrants to Toronto, because he doesn't want to pick a fight in Quebec.
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So there's some closed-border protesters and some open-borders protesters,
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and Faith went there with a camera, and everyone knows where she stands on the issue.
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There were a ton of other mainstream media there, too, and a ton of police,
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both regular police and full-body armor-wearing riot police.
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And in the middle of it walked Faith, who can't weigh more than 120 pounds.
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So Faith, and some middle-aged guy, and a mob of alt-left protesters, Antifa, they call themselves,
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They hit her, smacked her, kicked her, smacked the camera phone out of her hand,
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They caught every punch and every kick and every shove.
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In the back, that white police car and the police.
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I'll show you another clip where you can see the police so close they could almost touch
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Now, by the way, the RCMP's motto is maintien le droit.
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It literally means maintain the right or uphold the law.
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They didn't even uphold the peace, which is different.
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Keeping the peace would have meant interposing themselves between Faith and her attackers.
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Not even arresting them, but just not letting them hit her.
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They just got paid a lot of overtime to dress up really cool and stand there and literally
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He didn't report on the woman getting beat up and cops doing nothing.
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And he thought, she deserved it because she's far right.
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Highlight for me, seeing Faith Goldie get scolded by a Serté de Quebec officer for using
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So that's what shoving and kicking a girl is now, a demo.
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And he thought it was hilarious that Faith Goldie was scolded for using her cell phone.
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Yeah, I'm guessing she was on the phone trying to call someone who either cared about her
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safety or maybe even cared about the rule of law because no one on the scene did.
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Not the male feminist reporters, not the CBC, not the police who stood there like potted plants.
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I'd probably be calling someone, too, if I were just assaulted in public on camera.
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By the way, the footage I showed you was uploaded by various people onto Twitter.
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They claimed it violated the privacy of the Antifa thugs who hit Faith.
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Of course, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy when you're in a public place,
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especially at a protest where your own organization is literally advertised to the media to cover
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They have their faces covered anyways, as male feminists sometimes do when they punch
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That's the Antifa calling card, the coward's calling card.
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But Twitter agreed with Jonathan Montpetit of the CBC.
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Best not to show a woman getting attacked because that undermines the narrative.
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After all, the far right is violent, not the far left.
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And it was liked on Twitter by all sorts of other journalists, including, for example,
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Rosemary Barton, the CBC's feminist political boss.
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The CBC is fine with men punching women if it's a feminist man, leftist man.
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CBC even set up a war room for Gomeschi to discredit his accusers.
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They only fired Gian Gomeschi when he made the legally foolish move of confessing his
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Not even secretly pleased because, I mean, why be shy about it?
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It's like when Sheila Gunn-Reed was punched in the face by Dion Buse, an NDP activist in
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He was convicted of a crime and then lost a civil suit brought by Sheila, but the media
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call him the victim because he got some mean comments on Facebook for punching a woman.
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Or when Lauren Southern was grabbed by a male transsexual activist at U of T.
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He was the hero to the CBC because they hate Lauren Southern.
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Again and again, conservative women are physically attacked.
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Again and again, at the very least, the media ignore it.
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But oh my God, if you so much as insult the CBC reporter, we need a national manhunt and
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There's a strange prank out there and I absolutely don't support it.
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Men usually do it, but I've seen women do it too.
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Going up to a reporter who's doing a live broadcast on the public street and then shouting at them
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so to be heard on TV, F-U-C-K, her right in the P-U-S-S-Y.
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I think this whole shtick of running up to people and shouting while they're doing a live TV hit
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is a lazy man's version of the 1970s phenomenon of streaking, you know, when people would get
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naked and run across a baseball diamond, just a stupid, slightly obscene stunt.
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I think that's what F her right in the P thing is.
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It's someone making a vulgar swear and then running away.
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It's not being hit or kicked or pushed or assaulted or battered or having your camera stolen or
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It's just mean, but in the manner of a bad practical joke.
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Another F her right in the P incident in Newfoundland.
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CBC false complaint with police after incident involving a reporter caught on video.
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So someone swore at you and you're calling the police.
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Police are investigating F her right in the P insult hurled at a CBC journalist.
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Now look, the CBC can insult you and me every single day.
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But if you insult them, oh my God, they're going to call the police.
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F her right in the P isn't about social media, just criminal harassment, CBC radio media panel
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Well, then if they say it's settled, it's a crime to insult a reporter.
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That comes from the root word meaning you could die.
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You could be killed from being hit, but I don't know about being insulted.
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All these CBC reporters are sick of it, sick of it, sick of it.
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I mean, the media mob wants a scalp and police like positive press coverage, so they know
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In case you missed it, Calgary police fined a man who yelled F her right in the P at a
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Because at the end of the day, it's about a social sickness, people.
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I say again, look, I am not for shouting vulgar insults at journalists, but that happens literally
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Every time we're covering something in public and a leftist is there.
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And it's not some weird, childish, impersonal prank and then running away.
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It's swearing at us, almost always accompanied by pushing, shoving, kicking, punching.
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That doesn't get moral support from the CBC or the mainstream media.
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Because really, to the mainstream media and to too many police forces, conservatives deserve
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Well, it is the one-year anniversary of Robert Mueller's special prosecution into Russian
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But we don't really know because it's a secret.
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But what we do know is that Mueller's staff are overwhelmingly Democrat.
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And his official mandate, looking for Russian collusion, well, that's not actually a technical
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But after a year of hunting high and low, Mueller hasn't found any.
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Well, Donald Trump has clearly lost his patience.
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Let me show you a few tweets from the president.
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These were a couple days ago over the weekend, I think.
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If the FBI or Department of Justice was infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign,
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Only the release or review of documents that the House Intelligence Committee, also Senate
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Judiciary, is asking for can give the conclusive answers.
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Trump was referring to revelations that Mueller's predecessors actually planted people within the
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Trump campaign proactively before any of these claims of Russian collusion.
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And this is what was once denied as now being justified by the mainstream media.
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I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether
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or not the FBI Department of Justice infiltrated or surveilled the Trump campaign for political
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And if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama administration.
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Now, Trump went on with a series more tweets getting increasingly particular and tough in
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his language, and indeed he did have that meeting with the agencies he referred to.
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Helping us figure out a little bit of what's going on is our friend, Joel Pollack.
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He is the senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.
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Joel, I didn't possibly do justice to what's been going on here.
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I talked about Robert Mueller's investigation, but that doesn't properly give folks the background
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Well, there are a bunch of new allegations floating around that revolve around an academic
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in Cambridge who reportedly approached the Trump campaign and was an informant for the
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The president has accused the Obama administration of New York Times is trying to split hairs by
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saying, well, informing is different than spying.
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But essentially, it does look like the former administration was trying to gain information
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on an opposing presidential campaign and was doing so under cover of the question of Russian
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We don't know all the facts on this yet, and we still have to wait for more facts to come
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And if it's as bad as it looks, then it would appear that the Obama administration violated
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democratic norms and actually spied on the opposition.
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We haven't seen something like this since Watergate.
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And that's the appropriate comparison I think the president is drawing.
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Of course, we don't know the facts yet or all the facts.
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The problem is that the Justice Department has been stonewalling in terms of turning over
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documents to Congress as requested, and instead they've been leaking to friendly mainstream
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media publications like the New York Times and the Washington Post.
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So we're in a bit of a quandary as to what to believe, but it certainly looks bad.
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And it looks worse when you have members of the Obama administration saying, well, if this
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was done by our intelligence services or our law enforcement services, then it ought to
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They have no qualms whatsoever about the propriety of surveilling or informing on an opposing
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And then some, like Eric Holder, the former attorney general, have said it's wrong even
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to question what they were doing, that it's a danger to democracy for Congress and for
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others to want to know what the Justice Department was up to.
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And that's also just false because obviously we want some public oversight over what our intelligence
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The upshot of it all is I think the public will now distrust the Mueller investigation
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even further, because not only does it seem not to have been based on any real intelligence,
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but also now it seems to have existed alongside an attempt by the Obama administration at the
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very least to find out about Trump connections to Russia, which turned out not to have existed,
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It's possible that many of these contacts were in order to establish some sort of pretext
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for believing there was some kind of relationship between the Trump campaign and the Russian
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government, and then later asserting that there was one in order to get broader surveillance,
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or merely just to leak the suspicion to the media.
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So we've got the Obama administration behaving very badly.
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There's some intimation that it might have been well known in the White House that this
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But essentially, it makes the entire Mueller investigation and the Russia collusion theory
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look even worse and look even more like a partisan hit job, with the result that I think the public
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is going to discount anything that Mueller comes up with from here on forward.
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You mentioned Eric Holder, the former attorney general under Barack Obama.
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It was so surprising for him to come out so forcefully.
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I mean, he was running so hot on that, his denial that anything was wrong, just coming
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out of the blue, just to weigh in so fiercely, to me, telegraphed that he was extremely nervous
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John Brennan, the former CIA director under Obama, almost threatening politicians if they
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You refer to Watergate, and so has Donald Trump.
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I think it's actually one degree worse, and here's my reason for that.
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It was a private criminal act sneaking in to the election, the party office, to steal things.
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It was done with the knowledge of the president, but it wasn't done using the instruments of the
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It was a break-and-enter, you know, flashlights in the dark.
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This is worse than Watergate in this way, if it's true, if these allegations are true,
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because to actually corrupt the police and the Department of Justice and whatever security
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and spying apparatus to use them against an enemy, they weren't using criminals to break and enter, they were using legal processes.
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In many ways, I think that's worse, Joel, because it actually rots the entire instrumentality of law and order.
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Well, one thing that's in common between this case and Watergate is that the Nixon administration had no real reason to believe they were going to lose the election in 1972, yet they were party to this cover-up, at least, of the break-in to the Democratic National Committee headquarters.
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Likewise, the Obama administration, they thought they were going to win, or their preferred candidate was going to win, Hillary Clinton was going to win.
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And a lot of critics of Obama remarked on this while he was in office that he had to checks and balances on his power.
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He needed to control everything, whether it was him or the people that worked for him, like Valerie Jarrett, we don't know.
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The polls all said they were going to win, yet they had to be certain they were going to, in the event they lost.
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And what's amazing is that we wouldn't have found out about any of this if Hillary Clinton had won.
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There'd be none of these investigations, none of this accountability.
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Right now, it looks like the Department of Justice and its various branches, the FBI and so forth, were so hopelessly politicized by the Obama administration that that itself is a problem that's just absolutely staggering, and it's going to take decades to fix.
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The idea that you have an embedded bureaucracy that votes with its extraordinary power for a Democratic candidate, in a sense, that's just remarkable, and it's frightening to many people.
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And I think that that's going to take some work to address.
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Right now, I think President Trump is deeply frustrated with people in charge of the Justice Department, not just Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, who's trying to still be a middle-of-the-road, law-and-order kind of Attorney General.
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But Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General, who's really playing a very bizarre role in all of this, he's frustrating the president significantly, not only because he's running this investigation and, at the same time, keeping the president from getting documents that he wants, but he's also a witness in the investigation against the president, and yet he's running it.
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So, there's all kinds of conflicts of interest here.
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Very difficult to sort out what's actually going on, but the upshot, again, is that I think the public is starting to tire of the Mueller investigation and to believe it's not going to lead to anything except a political conclusion.
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For reasons that I will never understand, Jeff Sessions, who was a Trump loyalist, recused himself from any of these matters and basically let Rosenstein set it up.
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I first encountered his name when he wrote an official memo firing Jim Comey, and it was a scathing on-the-point memo.
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But for him to be running things, as you say, running this Mueller investigation, but not providing information to Trump when Trump has the executive power over the police and the Department of Justice is so weird.
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Donald Trump today was meeting with the president of South Korea, and a journalist said,
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I'm a reporter for the president of South Korea here.
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He doesn't want to hear these questions, if you don't mind.
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You know, Joel, it reminds me of Donald Trump when he was the host of The Apprentice.
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I mean, he's probably fired more cabinet appointees and senior staff.
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If I was Rod Rosenstein, I would take that as a very grave signal that maybe your days
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Well, it would be very difficult for the president to fire him.
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I just think he didn't want to be pinned down on having any kind of confidence in him.
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I think that his appointment has proved to be very frustrating to the president.
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The president appointed him on the advice of people who knew about the available personnel.
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He's a Republican nominally, and he had a very good track record.
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I watched his confirmation hearing myself, and I was very impressed by him.
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But he has turned out to be an institutional man.
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He is defending the entrenched power of the bureaucracy and the prerogatives of bureaucracy,
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even though, again, bizarrely, he's the one who justified firing James Comey.
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So we're basically through the looking glass here, and it's very hard for ordinary citizens,
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even very well-informed people, to make head or tail of it.
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I think that basically what it amounts to is that the Democrats have been able to run
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a witch hunt, to use President Trump's term, through the special counsel.
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There was no way for Jeff Sessions to avoid recusing himself, unfortunately.
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I think the rules of the Justice Department would have made him do that,
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and perhaps that should have been a consideration before he was appointed.
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But the investigation, the special counsel of the investigation, has far exceeded its mandate.
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It hasn't uncovered no evidence of Russia collusion.
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And it's now being run essentially as a political vehicle for Democrats to turn to impeachment
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if they regain their position in the House of Representatives.
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And I think that's what people need to know about it.
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And that's going to have a political judgment, I think, in November.
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I think voters are going to come to the polls to decide whether or not this is a course
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of action they continue to want the government to pursue.
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And I think they're going to vote no, which is why I think Democrats are trying to back
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away from impeachment, because they see it's a loser.
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But I think that's where all this is going, if the Democrats win back their majority.
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And so I think that ultimately this is going to have a political verdict.
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I think if the midterm elections go Republicans' way, that more than anything else will put
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But I just have one more question, because this whole Mueller thing, this Russia collusion
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But the president keeps having successful weeks.
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I mean, just give me 30 seconds on his deal with China.
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Everyone was saying, oh, this China thing's falling apart.
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Trump announced some negotiated adjustment to the trade deficit, where China would basically
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agree to import hundreds of billions of dollars more in American goods without a trade war.
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Well, I think the negotiations are still ongoing.
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But the idea is that China would agree to buy more of our goods, especially agricultural goods.
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Remember that the farming sector in the United States was probably the one sector of Trump's
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support that was hardest hit by the decision to stay out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership,
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that multilateral trade deal on the Pacific Rim that Trump didn't like.
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But the farmers like it because they want to be able to sell their products more cheaply
00:30:08.660
So what Trump basically achieved was a commitment from China to buy agricultural goods from the
00:30:13.500
United States without rejoining the trade, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and to do so in
00:30:18.940
exchange for some concessions on perhaps steel and aluminum.
00:30:24.980
And Trump today is saying there weren't deals reached on certain points.
00:30:30.880
But basically, what is interesting is that China is, for the first time, forced to make
00:30:35.460
concessions to the United States on issues of trade.
00:30:38.200
No president in the last 30 years has stood up to China the way President Trump has.
00:30:44.860
Marco Rubio, senator from Florida, one of Trump's rivals in 2016, said that Trump is basically
00:30:50.680
China is getting the better of some of these deals.
00:30:53.220
I actually don't, and I personally don't know enough to judge.
00:30:55.800
But what is interesting is that the Chinese are at least being asked and seem to be complying
00:31:01.700
with the request to make some concessions to American industry and to agriculture, which
00:31:07.780
You know, I've said before that Barack Obama is probably the worst negotiator in American
00:31:11.620
presidential history, whether it was Ukraine or Iran.
00:31:15.380
And Trump, whatever else you can say about him, the guy is used to elbows up deal making
00:31:23.420
Whatever concessions he gets from China is more than zero.
00:31:30.900
We'll have to let you go because you have real work to do there at Breitbart.com.
00:31:38.400
There's our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.
00:31:46.920
I wonder what will happen with this Mueller investigation.
00:32:03.140
Well, we follow Venezuela fairly closely here at The Rebel, even though it's very far away
00:32:07.180
from our home base here in Toronto, geographically speaking.
00:32:10.280
But the people have suffered so much through the brutal socialist regime.
00:32:15.920
And at the same time that they suffer from the socialism and the military authoritarianism,
00:32:21.440
the restrictions of civil liberties and free speech, at the same time there has been a campaign
00:32:26.700
by Hollywood celebrities, but also left-wing politicians from Bernie Sanders to our own
00:32:31.820
Canadian NDP to whitewash the atrocities in that regime, even though they're now literally on
00:32:39.680
The average Venezuelan has lost more than 18 pounds due to malnourishment.
00:32:43.980
That might sound great if you're fat like me or losing 18 pounds, but when an entire country
00:32:49.340
loses 18 pounds because of malnutrition, it is horrific.
00:32:52.800
That is a famine in a country that has, depending on whose reserves you count, the first or the
00:32:59.720
second largest oil reserves in the world, either number one or slightly behind Saudi Arabia.
00:33:05.640
Well, we've been frustrated by how Venezuela treats its own people and how America, under
00:33:11.520
the Obama regime, has treated Venezuela with kid gloves.
00:33:15.040
So it's refreshing to see an executive order just yesterday by President Trump.
00:33:20.480
And I'd like to read it to you, and then we'll talk to our key ally on Venezuelan matters
00:33:24.920
But let me read to you the news from Donald Trump.
00:33:28.000
And he says, I have signed an executive order to prevent the Maduro regime from selling or
00:33:35.060
collateralizing certain Venezuelan financial assets and to prohibit the regime from earning
00:33:40.340
money from the sale of certain entities of the Venezuelan government.
00:33:44.640
The United States remains committed to the Venezuelan people who have suffered immensely under
00:33:51.440
We call for the Maduro regime to restore democracy, hold free and fair elections, release all political
00:33:57.060
prisoners immediately and unconditionally, and end the repression and economic deprivation
00:34:05.120
And I note the terminology, Maduro regime, to personalize it as an authoritarian versus standing
00:34:14.020
I notice the reference to civil liberties and democracy.
00:34:19.480
It's a symbolic step with a little bit of bite.
00:34:24.100
But I think the symbolism is what's so valuable to me.
00:34:27.060
Joining us now to give us a more expert take on the subject is our friend Joseph Humeyer.
00:34:31.320
He's the executive director of the Center for a Secure, Free Society.
00:34:51.420
This is a one part of a multifaceted strategy that the Trump administration is implementing,
00:34:55.660
along with regional allies on the crisis in Venezuela.
00:34:59.780
So the strategy is basically designed to take away all the stability that the regime holds
00:35:07.140
from its financial benefactors, meaning its extra regional financial benefactors, Iran,
00:35:13.220
But also its ties to illicit enterprises and all kinds of corruption schemes that it's been
00:35:19.060
involved in over the last 20 years under the Chavez administration.
00:35:26.660
They also sanctioned one of the top guys in the Venezuelan power structure.
00:35:32.420
He's pretty much the leader of a cartel in Venezuela that's a military cartel.
00:35:36.480
And so this is one action among a series of actions that are moving in this direction.
00:35:40.740
I do have one critique with it, and not just with this executive order, but in general with
00:35:45.400
the strategy, is that there's a premise behind the Trump administration.
00:35:49.500
I think the intelligence community writ large, that the regime, the Venezuelan regime, the
00:35:53.620
Maduro regime wants to maintain power and that their only goal is to keep power and keep
00:36:00.380
And while that could be the case, I think it could be also a false premise because maybe
00:36:06.680
the regime is not just worried about keeping control, but they want to start a war.
00:36:11.880
And so Hugo Chavez kind of proved this to me because Hugo Chavez, if all Hugo Chavez cared
00:36:17.980
about was keeping power, he would not have ran the stump his last year when he was in
00:36:22.740
He would have not gone to Cuba for medical treatment.
00:36:24.360
He would have actually cured the disease that was killing him.
00:36:26.940
But he decided to continue to advance the revolution because it was more important to him than his
00:36:33.280
So to me, there are some very hardcore revolutionaries in Venezuela that are tied to hardcore revolutionaries
00:36:39.860
in Iran, in Russia and other parts of the world.
00:36:42.900
And the time and the calculations has been made, it's time for conflict and it's time
00:36:48.100
And then the war in Venezuela, civil war, quote unquote, will be designed to export more
00:36:52.160
refugees and destabilize the rest of Latin America.
00:36:54.540
So if I'm right, that's bad news for everybody.
00:36:57.600
If I'm wrong, hopefully the Trump administration is correct on this.
00:37:00.740
Well, this is very interesting and it goes to the revolutionary nature of so many of
00:37:09.880
Now, I know that Venezuela in the past has tried to destabilize some of its democratic
00:37:14.160
neighbors, including, if I'm not mistaken, Colombia.
00:37:16.780
When you say a war and you refer to Iran, which has a bizarrely close relationship with
00:37:25.360
Like, I mean, I know they have a slow burn civil liberties war against their own people
00:37:33.380
But do you mean war like an international war or do you mean?
00:37:38.540
It'll be an extension of the conflict in Syria.
00:37:41.400
Venezuela and Syria are snappling to one another, not just in terms of their governments, but
00:37:46.780
I mean, I think I mentioned, if not on your show and other shows, that there's populations
00:37:50.600
in Syria, for example, one city, Asawaida, that has 65% Venezuelan-born dual citizens.
00:37:59.340
In certain cities in eastern Venezuela, you have hundreds of thousands of Syrians.
00:38:03.180
I mean, they've created a linkage between these two countries because they look at them as
00:38:05.900
proxy wars on behalf, and mostly on behalf of Iran.
00:38:12.900
I mean, I know it's very hard to be a Venezuelan, let alone to be a Venezuelan democracy activist.
00:38:20.260
So I see that, I mean, when you phrase civil war, but in a way, Maduro has already won the
00:38:30.640
Are you talking about exporting violence to the United States?
00:38:34.880
I just want to understand a little bit more about this bad news scenario that you think
00:38:45.120
So the civil conflict, civil war, if you want to call it that, in Venezuela is kind of already
00:38:49.100
happening, and it'll just get worse when the military decides to clash with the Venezuelan,
00:38:54.160
with the Maduro regime, and that's inevitably going to happen because the conditions have
00:38:59.740
But they also, if you follow the Venezuelan military doctrine, Plan Sucre, Plan Zamora,
00:39:05.520
these that they've articulated, and Chávez has said this many times, and Maduro has continued
00:39:10.020
it, the war that they've always wanted to create is with Colombia.
00:39:13.420
Because on a strategic level, what Venezuela, what the Bolivarian revolution that Chávez
00:39:16.900
created was all about, was about redrawing the map and redrawing Latin America so that
00:39:22.700
It's called Gran Colombia, it's a throwback to a history from Simon Bolivar's time, to
00:39:28.500
basically unify the Latin American people against the United States.
00:39:31.880
This is an extension of the concept of greater Syria and the Middle East and the Nazareth
00:39:35.320
and Arab socialist nationalist movements in the 20th century of their time.
00:39:43.000
If it was just Nicolas Maduro and his people, I'd say probably not.
00:39:45.980
But they have the backing of some of the most advanced revolutions in the world, including
00:39:54.460
And I would normally say, well, that's fantastical.
00:39:57.140
But the information you've provided to us in our past conversations about the deep linkages
00:40:03.060
between Iran, Syria, and Venezuela, including, was it the vice president of Venezuela who deep
00:40:13.100
I would put it to you, 99.9% of people in Canada and the United States do not know about
00:40:19.500
I mean, they may have seen Chavez and Maduro meet with the Iranian bosses.
00:40:25.100
But I don't think they know that those ties go all the way down to the grassroots level.
00:40:30.880
Talk about some of these financial structures and cartels and companies.
00:40:36.260
I'm familiar with some of the larger oil companies.
00:40:39.260
Of course, there's a state company called Peta Vesa, which is a huge, huge oil company.
00:40:43.980
There's even a gas station chain in the United States called Citgo that was acquired by Venezuela.
00:40:52.300
Has Donald Trump and his administration focused on those two big entities at all?
00:40:58.420
Or is it just on some of these other financial infrastructure companies you talked about?
00:41:08.540
They haven't sanctioned this entity, Peta Vesa, or all its subsidiaries.
00:41:12.560
But they have actually sanctioned the individuals that run these companies.
00:41:15.760
So, and by extension, if you sanction the CEO of Peta Vesa, it's almost like a sanction on Peta Vesa
00:41:22.580
But what's concerned with the U.S. and I think other parts is the way Peta Vesa has been used
00:41:28.100
as both a slush fund throughout the years to prop up other dictators throughout Latin America
00:41:32.140
and a massive money laundering scheme to the point that I think the Venezuelan government
00:41:37.220
got so good at using Peta Vesa to launder money, they forgot it was designed to export oil.
00:41:41.260
And so their oil exportation kind of plummeted while their money laundering went rampant.
00:41:49.200
They, because there's a lot of debt and oil debt, particularly between the Venezuelans
00:41:55.600
and the Russians, the Russians decided to set up a collateral deal where they would try
00:41:59.440
to service the debt in terms of buying out collateral, acquiring collateral from the
00:42:05.180
And that caught the policymakers here in the U.S. because they were worried that if the
00:42:08.340
Russians own 50% of Citgo, it's like having a Russian gas station here in all kinds of
00:42:15.740
But the Russians ended up just, it was actually a trick.
00:42:17.560
The Russians ended up leveraging that collateral to buy more or to attain more control of the
00:42:23.700
heavy crude oil fields inside Venezuela, what's called the Oranoico Belt.
00:42:27.000
So the Russians actually, the Russians and Chinese control a lot of that.
00:42:30.980
I mean, depending on whose assessment of world reserves you trust, it's generally considered
00:42:37.020
that Venezuela has the largest reserves, even more than Saudi Arabia.
00:42:41.240
And it's actually similar to Canadian oil sands oil in terms of its heavy oil.
00:42:48.140
And the fact that Russia or Iran or Cuba might have their claws in that is terrifying.
00:42:54.460
And you know this one well, Joseph, because we're talking about Trump slowly rising the
00:43:00.080
challenge, at least rhetorically bringing some sanctions.
00:43:02.060
I think it's important that we remember that during the Obama administration, he had not
00:43:08.440
just, at least in the early days, not just a friendship with Hugo Chavez, but it was a
00:43:18.160
I mean, when world leaders meet, they usually shake hands.
00:43:23.680
And I know you've seen this a hundred times, Joseph.
00:43:25.460
It's sort of, you know, high-fiving and embracing between Barack Obama on the left there, Hugo
00:43:34.660
Chavez, and in the background, you can see a younger, Nicholas Maduro, who succeeded Chavez.
00:43:40.600
That chummy friendship, that Marxists against the West, like they were ideological allies.
00:43:47.760
There was love in Obama's eyes, or admiration that really was there.
00:43:51.840
I thought that was a great shame to the United States, and I feel like the tone of this executive
00:44:03.060
Do you have something you'd like to say about ending that?
00:44:08.120
You know what's most ironic about that picture?
00:44:10.340
There's an ideological kinship between Obama and Chavez and probably several other of these
00:44:14.520
kind of socialist sympathizers throughout the world.
00:44:17.240
But what's most ironic about that picture is that picture was taken at a conference called
00:44:21.960
the Summit of the Americas that's organized by the Organization of American States.
00:44:25.680
The United States funds the Organization of American States upwards of 60% of their annual
00:44:30.360
So this is like taxpayer dollars going to organize a summit where one of the most anti-American
00:44:36.520
actors that ever existed in Latin America is basically hugging the U.S. president.
00:44:40.600
So that's ironic in my mind, and it shouldn't be funny, but you just got to laugh at it at a
00:44:46.080
Yeah, well, I guess it's like America funding so much of the atrocities at the United Nations
00:44:52.700
Well, Joseph, I know you and I have talked many times for many years now, actually, about
00:44:59.040
We didn't have time to talk about the latest vote there, but we'll do that on another occasion.
00:45:03.160
I hope that this executive order by Donald Trump is a baby step towards speaking, you know,
00:45:12.680
I think you have to get your language and ideas first before you can take steps, and
00:45:17.200
I find this a refreshing change from the high fives that Obama gave Chavez and Maduro.
00:45:23.100
Thanks for fighting this fight in Washington with the lawmakers.
00:45:25.540
I know you try so hard to wake them up on this, and thanks for doing that.
00:45:31.060
Absolutely, and we'll continue the conversation.
00:45:34.260
Well, Joseph Humeyer joined us again, very educational as always.
00:45:37.980
He's the executive director of the Center for a Secure and Free Society, telling us about
00:45:42.960
a small step by the Trump administration to take sanctions against the Venezuelan regime.
00:46:03.160
On my special interview yesterday with Conrad Black and his new book, Donald J. Trump, a
00:46:09.380
I thoroughly enjoyed and was very much educated by your interview with Conrad Black.
00:46:13.220
I rather thought that he was a bit of a conceited person.
00:46:17.160
He was certainly congenial and very engaging with you, Ezra.
00:46:19.580
I'm so glad you had him on, and I, as you said, for nearly an hour.
00:46:27.200
Most sadly, RPM is just a flake like Barack Hussein Obama, and both lovers of godless radical
00:46:35.820
Well, Moyes, I gotta admit, I'm a bit of a fanboy, and I think I got too excited, and
00:46:42.300
I don't know, some other folks said I sucked up a bit.
00:46:46.640
I tell you, there's two interviewees that I get sort of a fanboy with, Conrad Black and
00:46:53.180
Jordan Peterson, and I won't lie, but I thought he had, first of all, I think I let him speak
00:47:01.420
If a guest is speaking 51% of the time, it's a miracle, and it was good to hear from him.
00:47:07.940
I think he's literally like the only other pro-Trump journalist in all of Canada, so,
00:47:16.040
Deborah writes, excellent interview with Lord Black.
00:47:19.060
I'm a huge fan of his, and will have to pick up his book on Trump.
00:47:22.820
I read his column each week, and I find it disturbing how many comments are attacking
00:47:26.200
his character due to his legal battles that landed him in jail.
00:47:33.120
I can't believe he still has his spirit after the ringer he was put through in the States.
00:47:43.900
Trump learns quickly and makes appropriate adjustments.
00:47:46.440
On the other hand, Jr. keeps doubling down on stupid.
00:47:49.860
Well, yeah, and I think I was alluding to this with Joel Pollack today.
00:47:57.260
If he's got an executive or a lieutenant that's not working, he'll read him the riot act.
00:48:05.500
I think he shocked everyone during the 2016 presidential election campaign, where he changed
00:48:10.000
his senior campaign staff, what, like four months before the election?
00:48:13.920
And everyone thought, you're crazy, you're doomed.
00:48:16.260
Well, no, I think he realized he was doomed, and he had to shake things up.
00:48:19.560
He put a Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon, and I think they won it.
00:48:25.140
And, in fact, when you think about it, the, you know, the set-in-stone campaign team around
00:48:31.400
Hillary Clinton, part of the problem is they were just too comfortable.
00:48:34.380
They were in a mental rut, a psychological rut.
00:48:39.760
They were ignoring what they were hearing on the ground.
00:48:47.680
The guy with his unconventional style, firing people.
00:48:50.380
I think you're right that he has learned a lot on the job.
00:48:54.240
He's replaced swamp creatures like Reince Priebus as his chief of staff with people who
00:49:02.600
And if you take away all the storm and fury, and you look at the substantive results of
00:49:08.340
his first year and a half, he's done more than any president in recent memory has, and
00:49:13.340
that's despite this massive distraction of the Mueller Inquisition.
00:49:17.220
So I think he's actually on track to be a great president.
00:49:19.680
And as Conrad Black says, he's certainly a unique personality.
00:49:23.980
And people on the left and the right can agree to that.
00:49:30.400
Some of Conrad Black's recent books have more than a thousand pages.
00:49:35.840
I'm just saying, who's got the time to read a 1,200-page book?
00:49:40.040
The 256 breezy pages about Donald Trump, I'll read that.
00:49:43.920
And I got to say, I mean, I know I'm enthusing here again.
00:49:47.620
Maybe I went in with low expectations, but it's a good book.
00:49:50.120
You know, I was worried because I've seen his books before.
00:49:57.860
And yes, this is that fanboy side of me coming out.
00:50:06.520
On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.