Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show May 22 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, a pack of Antifa thugs assault a conservative journalist while police stand

00:00:05.200 by idly and the mainstream media laugh. It's May 22nd and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:16.240 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:20.080 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.800 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:26.780 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:37.300 I want to show you a group of left-wing men and some women wearing masks, attacking a conservative woman in public.

00:00:45.320 In fact, not just in public, but with national TV news cameras capturing every moment.

00:00:50.620 Oh, and police standing right there too. And not one of them left a finger to stop it.

00:00:55.140 In fact, they sort of had a good laugh about it.

00:00:58.020 Let me set up the story a bit first.

00:01:00.080 Last year, we did an undercover investigation at the sophisticated human trafficking going on at the border between New York State and Quebec,

00:01:08.280 particularly on Roxham Road.

00:01:11.240 That's really an unguarded border between the two countries.

00:01:14.660 It literally does not even have a fence.

00:01:17.880 It's just a small ditch.

00:01:19.480 Our reporter was Faith Goldie.

00:01:21.940 We parted ways with Faith last August, but her journalism here speaks for itself.

00:01:26.200 She showed taxi companies, bus companies, all built around smuggling foreigners across that illegal border crossing.

00:01:33.780 But the word smuggling implies something secret or hidden or underground.

00:01:37.720 That's what was so shocking about Faith's report.

00:01:39.820 It was all pretty much out in the open.

00:01:41.160 When you charter a massive bus and make regular trips up from New York City and, you know, you're not really sneaking around.

00:01:48.420 You're just walking right in.

00:01:50.340 And why not?

00:01:51.720 It's not like the U.S. police, mind.

00:01:53.920 They're getting rid of so many illegal migrants, tens of thousands, including many criminals.

00:02:00.440 I used to laugh at that phrase, self-deport, the idea that illegal migrants would actually deport themselves from America.

00:02:07.860 I mean, what a joke.

00:02:08.700 Yeah, well, thanks to Justin Trudeau, it's actually happening en masse. 0.78

00:02:13.460 This foolish tweet here, inviting the entire world just to come to Canada, combined with the luxury concierge service provided by the RCMP and by border guards.

00:02:23.120 Well, really, what illegal migrants in the U.S. wouldn't self-deport to Canada? 0.86

00:02:30.120 And now Trudeau and his immigration minister, the Somali-born Ahmed Hassan, they've gone one step further.

00:02:35.560 They now offer free health care, jump-to-the-front-of-the-line health care for catastrophic illnesses for any illegal migrant. 0.52

00:02:42.720 Here's a guy who just waltzed into Canada illegally with stage 4 cancer.

00:02:47.400 He calls himself a stateless Palestinian refugee, except that's not true.

00:02:51.220 He's in Lebanon, which is a peaceful enough country.

00:02:54.960 And then, of course, he moved to New America, which is a great country and peaceful.

00:02:59.640 But to him, Canada's even greater because we're going to give him a couple hundred grand worth of health care.

00:03:05.320 Oh, and we brought his wife and kids in, too.

00:03:07.360 And they go straight to the front of the line.

00:03:08.900 So, yeah, it's no surprise that about 50,000 illegal migrants in the U.S. have self-deported to Canada,

00:03:15.920 every one of them breaking our own laws by coming in at an illegal crossing,

00:03:19.700 where our police have been ordered to act like concierges and bellhops and luggage boys.

00:03:27.920 It's a shambles on purpose, though.

00:03:30.040 This is not an accident.

00:03:31.200 As you may know, Justin Trudeau has met several times with George Soros, the billionaire globalist,

00:03:36.060 who funds dozens of left-wing lobby groups and has a special focus on mass open borders migration,

00:03:41.860 especially Muslim migration.

00:03:43.640 In late 2016, Trudeau signed a contract with Soros' New York-based lobby group

00:03:48.460 to help develop Canada's migrant policy.

00:03:51.640 And not just the policy, the propaganda, too.

00:03:54.040 Here's part of that agreement.

00:03:55.200 This is taken from the Government of Canada website.

00:03:57.360 Provide a vehicle that mobilizes citizens in direct support of refugees

00:04:03.040 and encourages a broader political debate that is supportive of refugee protection.

00:04:08.840 Sorry, that's not immigration policy.

00:04:10.980 Mobilizing citizens and political support for open borders,

00:04:14.340 that's ideological campaigning that we are paying Soros to do.

00:04:18.920 So it's a mess.

00:04:20.440 Quebec has had it.

00:04:21.960 So Trudeau is shipping migrants from Quebec by bus to Toronto.

00:04:25.560 No.

00:04:26.260 John Tory, the Toronto mayor, is complaining.

00:04:28.680 He says all the homeless shelters are now full up.

00:04:31.080 Half of all street-level social services are being taken up by these Americans. 1.00

00:04:34.700 Actually, I want to laugh there.

00:04:35.680 They're not American. 1.00

00:04:36.380 There would be Americans who didn't measure up to America's immigration laws 1.00

00:04:40.040 and were going to be kicked out.

00:04:41.580 But Trudeau will take anyone.

00:04:43.400 So yeah, if you're hungry or homeless in Toronto,

00:04:45.840 or you need treatment for your stage 4 cancer,

00:04:48.980 know your place, buddy.

00:04:50.960 Get in line behind the Trudeau-Soros migrant lineup. 0.96

00:04:53.860 What are you, a racist?

00:04:56.180 Today there's news that the RCMP is warning

00:04:58.440 that this self-imposed migrant crisis

00:05:00.580 is going to cause major problems for the force.

00:05:03.820 RCMP officers are not trained as border police,

00:05:06.220 and they're certainly not trained to be bellhops.

00:05:08.240 I can only imagine how demoralizing it must be deliberately,

00:05:12.220 literally, to be told not to enforce the law.

00:05:14.760 In fact, to assist in lawbreaking at the political order of Justin Trudeau.

00:05:18.900 Well, police say it's stressful and irregular for their members.

00:05:21.560 There's not just that, they specifically warn

00:05:23.700 that it's taking resources away from serious crime projects.

00:05:27.040 So, you know, I mean, these cops aren't meant to be bellhops.

00:05:29.640 They're meant to go out and solve crimes,

00:05:31.260 fight crimes, stop murders, break up drug gangs, whatever.

00:05:33.880 But that's falling by the wayside.

00:05:35.340 Trudeau doesn't care.

00:05:36.020 He loves this instead.

00:05:37.300 He signed a contract with George Soros for this.

00:05:40.420 This is not a mistake or an error.

00:05:42.180 It is the plan working.

00:05:44.340 All right, so that's the background.

00:05:45.300 I say again, Faith Goldie left us last year after months after she did her border investigation. 0.99

00:05:51.580 She's not with us anymore, but that's irrelevant to today's story.

00:05:55.240 Over the weekend, Faith, on her own, went to the same border crossing to report on the scene.

00:06:00.920 Since her visit last year, it's become a veritable refugee camp with semi-permanent structures.

00:06:06.860 This is not a temporary blip.

00:06:09.060 It's the new normal, as if Angela Merkel's disaster was a role model, not a cautionary tale.

00:06:13.840 So she went there to videotape things, and there was going to be some protesters against open borders.

00:06:20.120 It's a huge issue in Quebec, a mainstream issue.

00:06:23.040 Politicians there aren't as cowardly and politically correct as they are in English Canada.

00:06:26.340 That's why Trudeau is sending the migrants to Toronto, because he doesn't want to pick a fight in Quebec.

00:06:30.840 So there's some closed-border protesters and some open-borders protesters,

00:06:34.260 and Faith went there with a camera, and everyone knows where she stands on the issue. 0.53

00:06:37.440 There were a ton of other mainstream media there, too, and a ton of police,

00:06:41.020 both regular police and full-body armor-wearing riot police.

00:06:46.720 And in the middle of it walked Faith, who can't weigh more than 120 pounds. 1.00

00:06:50.540 And she had some guy walking with her, too.

00:06:52.300 So Faith, and some middle-aged guy, and a mob of alt-left protesters, Antifa, they call themselves,

00:06:59.800 many of them wearing face masks.

00:07:02.060 And look at what happened.

00:07:04.080 She was assaulted and battered.

00:07:05.700 They hit her, smacked her, kicked her, smacked the camera phone out of her hand, 1.00

00:07:10.080 pushed her, chased her off the public street.

00:07:12.220 Take a look.

00:07:12.640 I'll show you from various angles.

00:07:14.620 Stop it! 0.99

00:07:24.400 Stop it! 0.99

00:07:25.380 Take it!

00:07:26.200 Take it!

00:07:27.120 No!

00:07:28.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:07:28.780 Stop it! 1.00

00:07:29.720 Shut the hell! 1.00

00:07:32.160 Stop it! 1.00

00:07:32.900 Shut the hell! 1.00

00:07:33.340 No. 1.00

00:07:34.140 What the fucking asshole? 1.00

00:07:35.400 Do you see all that? 1.00

00:07:55.540 Do you see all the mainstream media there?

00:07:57.880 With all of their cameras?

00:07:59.460 They caught every moment.

00:08:00.360 They caught every punch and every kick and every shove.

00:08:02.320 Take a look again.

00:08:02.940 Take a look.

00:08:05.400 And did you see the police car?

00:08:21.440 In the back, that white police car and the police.

00:08:24.500 There were riot police there, too.

00:08:26.120 How many feet away?

00:08:27.040 So close.

00:08:27.860 I'll show you another clip where you can see the police so close they could almost touch

00:08:31.540 her.

00:08:31.860 And yet, none of them lifted a finger.

00:08:34.480 Now, by the way, the RCMP's motto is maintien le droit.

00:08:47.400 That's from the French, obviously.

00:08:48.820 It literally means maintain the right or uphold the law.

00:08:52.140 Droit means rights, duties, powers.

00:08:54.700 Uphold the law.

00:08:56.780 Did the police uphold the law?

00:08:59.200 No, they did not.

00:09:00.820 They didn't even uphold the peace, which is different.

00:09:02.620 Keeping the peace would have meant interposing themselves between Faith and her attackers.

00:09:06.880 Not even arresting them, but just not letting them hit her.

00:09:10.000 But they didn't even do that.

00:09:11.420 They just got paid a lot of overtime to dress up really cool and stand there and literally

00:09:16.020 do nothing.

00:09:17.460 Oh, not quite nothing.

00:09:19.120 Here's the CBC's Jonathan Montpetit.

00:09:21.040 He was there.

00:09:21.900 He didn't report on the woman getting beat up and cops doing nothing.

00:09:25.900 Beat up's a bit.

00:09:26.420 We're pushed around and shoved and kicked.

00:09:28.140 And the cops doing nothing.

00:09:29.160 Now, he had the footage.

00:09:30.660 He saw it all for himself live, too.

00:09:32.180 And he thought, she deserved it because she's far right.

00:09:36.800 So in the liberal mindset, she had it coming.

00:09:39.680 Here's his tweet.

00:09:40.360 He said, it was funny.

00:09:43.020 He said, border demo all done.

00:09:45.480 Highlight for me, seeing Faith Goldie get scolded by a Serté de Quebec officer for using 0.99

00:09:50.940 her cell phone while driving.

00:09:52.120 So that's what shoving and kicking a girl is now, a demo. 1.00

00:09:57.520 And he thought it was hilarious that Faith Goldie was scolded for using her cell phone.

00:10:02.400 Yeah, I'm guessing she was on the phone trying to call someone who either cared about her

00:10:06.520 safety or maybe even cared about the rule of law because no one on the scene did.

00:10:10.600 Not the male feminist reporters, not the CBC, not the police who stood there like potted plants. 0.75

00:10:15.780 I'd probably be calling someone, too, if I were just assaulted in public on camera.

00:10:19.360 And no one did anything.

00:10:21.120 But hey, no distracted driving, young lady. 0.99

00:10:24.160 By the way, the footage I showed you was uploaded by various people onto Twitter.

00:10:28.120 And Twitter took it down.

00:10:29.960 They banned it.

00:10:30.920 They claimed it violated the privacy of the Antifa thugs who hit Faith.

00:10:35.120 Now, that's not true.

00:10:35.820 Of course, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy when you're in a public place,

00:10:39.560 especially at a protest where your own organization is literally advertised to the media to cover

00:10:43.880 the protest.

00:10:44.560 There's no privacy. 0.96

00:10:45.620 They have their faces covered anyways, as male feminists sometimes do when they punch 1.00

00:10:49.300 women. 1.00

00:10:49.940 That's the Antifa calling card, the coward's calling card. 0.85

00:10:52.380 So no privacy to be violated. 1.00

00:10:54.340 And they're criminals.

00:10:55.600 But Twitter agreed with Jonathan Montpetit of the CBC.

00:10:58.620 Best not to show a woman getting attacked because that undermines the narrative.

00:11:01.940 After all, the far right is violent, not the far left.

00:11:07.700 That was what the CBC reporter said publicly.

00:11:10.020 And it was liked on Twitter by all sorts of other journalists, including, for example,

00:11:14.840 Rosemary Barton, the CBC's feminist political boss.

00:11:18.300 She liked it.

00:11:19.180 It's weird that way. 0.95

00:11:21.060 The CBC is fine with men punching women if it's a feminist man, leftist man. 1.00

00:11:26.460 They love Gian Gomeschi.

00:11:28.480 CBC even set up a war room for Gomeschi to discredit his accusers.

00:11:31.880 They only fired Gian Gomeschi when he made the legally foolish move of confessing his

00:11:36.540 violence in a weird Facebook post.

00:11:39.280 They stood by him until that moment.

00:11:41.420 The same thing here, but more so.

00:11:42.860 They hate Faith because she's right-wing. 1.00

00:11:45.200 And so they're pleased that she got hit.

00:11:46.760 Not even secretly pleased because, I mean, why be shy about it?

00:11:49.880 All the fancy people agree.

00:11:51.660 It's like when Sheila Gunn-Reed was punched in the face by Dion Buse, an NDP activist in

00:11:56.140 Alberta.

00:11:56.780 He was convicted of a crime and then lost a civil suit brought by Sheila, but the media

00:12:00.860 call him the victim because he got some mean comments on Facebook for punching a woman.

00:12:07.180 He's a CBC hero, though, a male feminist.

00:12:09.660 Or when Lauren Southern was grabbed by a male transsexual activist at U of T.

00:12:14.540 He was the hero to the CBC because they hate Lauren Southern.

00:12:17.420 They're fine with him being punched by a man.

00:12:19.020 Again and again, conservative women are physically attacked. 0.99

00:12:22.100 Again and again, at the very least, the media ignore it.

00:12:24.960 But quite often, they cheer along.

00:12:27.760 But oh my God, if you so much as insult the CBC reporter, we need a national manhunt and

00:12:33.120 you've got to go to jail.

00:12:34.560 There's a strange prank out there and I absolutely don't support it.

00:12:38.400 But let me explain it to you.

00:12:39.700 It's going up to reporters.

00:12:41.480 Men usually do it, but I've seen women do it too. 0.99

00:12:43.380 Going up to a reporter who's doing a live broadcast on the public street and then shouting at them

00:12:49.400 so to be heard on TV, F-U-C-K, her right in the P-U-S-S-Y. 1.00

00:12:55.800 I won't pronounce those swears.

00:12:57.440 I think this whole shtick of running up to people and shouting while they're doing a live TV hit

00:13:02.940 is a lazy man's version of the 1970s phenomenon of streaking, you know, when people would get 0.99

00:13:08.480 naked and run across a baseball diamond, just a stupid, slightly obscene stunt. 0.99

00:13:13.000 I think that's what F her right in the P thing is. 1.00

00:13:15.980 I think it's rude, absolutely.

00:13:17.940 But it's not an assault.

00:13:19.760 It's not battery.

00:13:20.900 You're not touching anyone.

00:13:22.400 You're not threatening to touch anyone.

00:13:23.780 It's someone making a vulgar swear and then running away.

00:13:28.500 It's not being hit or kicked or pushed or assaulted or battered or having your camera stolen or

00:13:33.440 even being threatened.

00:13:34.660 It's just mean, but in the manner of a bad practical joke.

00:13:38.220 But look at this.

00:13:39.080 There's just a small sample here from the CBC.

00:13:42.300 Another F her right in the P incident in Newfoundland.

00:13:45.580 CBC false complaint with police after incident involving a reporter caught on video.

00:13:50.800 So someone swore at you and you're calling the police.

00:13:53.780 And the CBC does a whole thing about it.

00:13:55.920 Why?

00:13:56.440 Yes, again and again and again.

00:13:58.100 Here's another one.

00:13:59.500 Police are investigating F her right in the P insult hurled at a CBC journalist.

00:14:04.900 Now look, the CBC can insult you and me every single day.

00:14:07.200 But if you insult them, oh my God, they're going to call the police.

00:14:10.100 Here's another one.

00:14:11.520 F her right in the P isn't about social media, just criminal harassment, CBC radio media panel 1.00

00:14:17.600 says.

00:14:18.140 Well, then if they say it's settled, it's a crime to insult a reporter.

00:14:22.560 Or if you swear.

00:14:24.900 Because the CBC says it's mortifying.

00:14:28.500 Really?

00:14:28.920 That comes from the root word meaning you could die.

00:14:32.160 Would you die from being insulted?

00:14:34.900 You could be killed from being hit, but I don't know about being insulted. 0.75

00:14:39.000 All these CBC reporters are sick of it, sick of it, sick of it.

00:14:41.720 So they call the cops.

00:14:43.720 And the cops are only too happy to oblige.

00:14:45.320 I mean, the media mob wants a scalp and police like positive press coverage, so they know

00:14:50.240 what to do.

00:14:51.000 Here's another tweet.

00:14:51.960 In case you missed it, Calgary police fined a man who yelled F her right in the P at a

00:14:56.480 CBC reporter.

00:14:58.280 Because at the end of the day, it's about a social sickness, people.

00:15:01.700 And reporters are the real victims.

00:15:04.080 They're the real heroes.

00:15:04.820 I say again, look, I am not for shouting vulgar insults at journalists, but that happens literally

00:15:10.660 every day to our journalists.

00:15:12.140 Every time we're covering something in public and a leftist is there.

00:15:15.620 Every time.

00:15:16.840 And it's not some weird, childish, impersonal prank and then running away.

00:15:21.560 It's swearing at us, almost always accompanied by pushing, shoving, kicking, punching.

00:15:24.740 That doesn't yield police charges.

00:15:27.500 That doesn't get moral support from the CBC or the mainstream media.

00:15:30.840 It doesn't even get a mention.

00:15:32.920 It gets a laugh.

00:15:34.100 Because really, to the mainstream media and to too many police forces, conservatives deserve 0.99

00:15:39.300 to be punched. 0.99

00:15:40.820 Don't they? 0.97

00:15:42.680 Stay with us for more.

00:15:54.740 Welcome back.

00:16:00.960 Well, it is the one-year anniversary of Robert Mueller's special prosecution into Russian

00:16:06.520 collusion in the Trump campaign.

00:16:08.980 $20 million is what's reportedly spent.

00:16:12.340 But we don't really know because it's a secret.

00:16:14.620 We don't know the terms of his investigation.

00:16:17.320 There is no limit to it.

00:16:18.500 And what limits there are are a secret.

00:16:20.660 But what we do know is that Mueller's staff are overwhelmingly Democrat.

00:16:26.240 And his official mandate, looking for Russian collusion, well, that's not actually a technical

00:16:30.680 term for a crime.

00:16:32.000 It's a made-up word.

00:16:33.600 There are crimes involving foreign powers. 0.58

00:16:35.700 But after a year of hunting high and low, Mueller hasn't found any.

00:16:40.200 Well, Donald Trump has clearly lost his patience.

00:16:42.500 Let me show you a few tweets from the president.

00:16:45.800 These were a couple days ago over the weekend, I think.

00:16:47.940 If the FBI or Department of Justice was infiltrating a campaign for the benefit of another campaign,

00:16:57.260 that is a really big deal.

00:16:59.220 Only the release or review of documents that the House Intelligence Committee, also Senate

00:17:03.220 Judiciary, is asking for can give the conclusive answers.

00:17:06.360 Drain the swamp.

00:17:07.740 Trump was referring to revelations that Mueller's predecessors actually planted people within the

00:17:15.600 Trump campaign proactively before any of these claims of Russian collusion.

00:17:21.060 They were spying.

00:17:22.920 And this is what was once denied as now being justified by the mainstream media.

00:17:26.340 Let me read one more clip, one more tweet.

00:17:28.060 I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether

00:17:34.760 or not the FBI Department of Justice infiltrated or surveilled the Trump campaign for political

00:17:39.000 purposes.

00:17:40.120 And if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama administration.

00:17:46.280 Now, Trump went on with a series more tweets getting increasingly particular and tough in

00:17:50.520 his language, and indeed he did have that meeting with the agencies he referred to.

00:17:57.400 Helping us figure out a little bit of what's going on is our friend, Joel Pollack.

00:18:01.840 He is the senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.

00:18:04.860 Joel, I didn't possibly do justice to what's been going on here.

00:18:08.420 I talked about Robert Mueller's investigation, but that doesn't properly give folks the background

00:18:14.420 on this spy business.

00:18:16.480 Can you give us one minute on that?

00:18:20.520 Well, there are a bunch of new allegations floating around that revolve around an academic

00:18:27.120 in Cambridge who reportedly approached the Trump campaign and was an informant for the

00:18:33.660 FBI.

00:18:35.340 The president has accused the Obama administration of New York Times is trying to split hairs by

00:18:41.920 saying, well, informing is different than spying.

00:18:44.200 Go figure out what they mean by that.

00:18:46.300 But essentially, it does look like the former administration was trying to gain information

00:18:53.760 on an opposing presidential campaign and was doing so under cover of the question of Russian

00:19:02.520 collusion.

00:19:03.900 It's very odd.

00:19:05.320 We don't know all the facts on this yet, and we still have to wait for more facts to come

00:19:08.720 out.

00:19:08.900 But certainly it looks very bad.

00:19:10.720 And if it's as bad as it looks, then it would appear that the Obama administration violated

00:19:15.680 democratic norms and actually spied on the opposition.

00:19:20.980 We haven't seen something like this since Watergate.

00:19:23.960 And that's the appropriate comparison I think the president is drawing.

00:19:27.320 Of course, we don't know the facts yet or all the facts.

00:19:30.220 We know some of them.

00:19:31.660 The problem is that the Justice Department has been stonewalling in terms of turning over

00:19:35.760 documents to Congress as requested, and instead they've been leaking to friendly mainstream

00:19:40.720 media publications like the New York Times and the Washington Post.

00:19:44.260 So we're in a bit of a quandary as to what to believe, but it certainly looks bad.

00:19:48.780 And it looks worse when you have members of the Obama administration saying, well, if this

00:19:53.120 was done by our intelligence services or our law enforcement services, then it ought to

00:19:57.500 have been done.

00:19:57.980 They have to have had a good reason to do it.

00:19:59.520 They have no qualms whatsoever about the propriety of surveilling or informing on an opposing

00:20:06.160 campaign.

00:20:06.840 And then some, like Eric Holder, the former attorney general, have said it's wrong even

00:20:10.540 to question what they were doing, that it's a danger to democracy for Congress and for

00:20:14.560 others to want to know what the Justice Department was up to.

00:20:17.840 That's the James Comey line.

00:20:19.040 And that's also just false because obviously we want some public oversight over what our intelligence

00:20:25.340 and law enforcement agencies are doing.

00:20:27.140 So it's all a mess.

00:20:28.360 The upshot of it all is I think the public will now distrust the Mueller investigation

00:20:33.040 even further, because not only does it seem not to have been based on any real intelligence,

00:20:38.060 but also now it seems to have existed alongside an attempt by the Obama administration at the

00:20:42.780 very least to find out about Trump connections to Russia, which turned out not to have existed,

00:20:48.940 or to set Trump up.

00:20:50.800 It's possible that many of these contacts were in order to establish some sort of pretext

00:20:55.740 for believing there was some kind of relationship between the Trump campaign and the Russian

00:20:59.180 government, and then later asserting that there was one in order to get broader surveillance,

00:21:03.920 or merely just to leak the suspicion to the media.

00:21:05.900 So we've got the Obama administration behaving very badly.

00:21:09.780 There's some intimation that it might have been well known in the White House that this

00:21:13.280 was going on, the Obama White House.

00:21:15.120 So it's all a jumble.

00:21:16.480 It's very hard to explain it to anybody.

00:21:17.900 But essentially, it makes the entire Mueller investigation and the Russia collusion theory

00:21:22.200 look even worse and look even more like a partisan hit job, with the result that I think the public

00:21:27.240 is going to discount anything that Mueller comes up with from here on forward.

00:21:31.460 Yeah.

00:21:31.860 You mentioned Eric Holder, the former attorney general under Barack Obama.

00:21:38.060 It was so surprising for him to come out so forcefully.

00:21:42.700 Don't ask any questions.

00:21:43.720 I mean, he was running so hot on that, his denial that anything was wrong, just coming

00:21:51.000 out of the blue, just to weigh in so fiercely, to me, telegraphed that he was extremely nervous

00:21:57.040 about this.

00:21:58.000 Like, that's just how it came across.

00:21:59.780 He protested too much, so to speak.

00:22:02.780 John Brennan, the former CIA director under Obama, almost threatening politicians if they

00:22:11.220 went along with this.

00:22:12.080 You refer to Watergate, and so has Donald Trump.

00:22:16.820 I think it's actually one degree worse, and here's my reason for that.

00:22:20.660 Watergate was a private break-in.

00:22:23.560 It was a private criminal act sneaking in to the election, the party office, to steal things.

00:22:31.640 So it was spying.

00:22:32.680 It was breaking and entering.

00:22:34.920 It was done with the knowledge of the president, but it wasn't done using the instruments of the

00:22:39.940 state.

00:22:40.180 It was a break-and-enter, you know, flashlights in the dark.

00:22:44.240 This is worse than Watergate in this way, if it's true, if these allegations are true,

00:22:48.560 because to actually corrupt the police and the Department of Justice and whatever security

00:22:56.580 and spying apparatus to use them against an enemy, they weren't using criminals to break and enter, they were using legal processes.

00:23:07.300 In many ways, I think that's worse, Joel, because it actually rots the entire instrumentality of law and order.

00:23:13.880 I think the Watergate analogy fits.

00:23:16.660 Well, one thing that's in common between this case and Watergate is that the Nixon administration had no real reason to believe they were going to lose the election in 1972, yet they were party to this cover-up, at least, of the break-in to the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

00:23:37.640 Likewise, the Obama administration, they thought they were going to win, or their preferred candidate was going to win, Hillary Clinton was going to win.

00:23:44.800 So it's all driven by a need to control.

00:23:48.640 And a lot of critics of Obama remarked on this while he was in office that he had to checks and balances on his power.

00:23:57.920 He needed to control everything, whether it was him or the people that worked for him, like Valerie Jarrett, we don't know.

00:24:02.960 But there's a common obsession with control.

00:24:07.060 They thought they were going to win.

00:24:07.980 The polls all said they were going to win, yet they had to be certain they were going to, in the event they lost.

00:24:12.840 And what's amazing is that we wouldn't have found out about any of this if Hillary Clinton had won.

00:24:18.320 There'd be none of these investigations, none of this accountability.

00:24:21.140 Right now, it looks like the Department of Justice and its various branches, the FBI and so forth, were so hopelessly politicized by the Obama administration that that itself is a problem that's just absolutely staggering, and it's going to take decades to fix.

00:24:34.740 The idea that you have an embedded bureaucracy that votes with its extraordinary power for a Democratic candidate, in a sense, that's just remarkable, and it's frightening to many people.

00:24:50.240 And I think that that's going to take some work to address.

00:24:53.140 Right now, I think President Trump is deeply frustrated with people in charge of the Justice Department, not just Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, who's trying to still be a middle-of-the-road, law-and-order kind of Attorney General.

00:25:03.320 But Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General, who's really playing a very bizarre role in all of this, he's frustrating the president significantly, not only because he's running this investigation and, at the same time, keeping the president from getting documents that he wants, but he's also a witness in the investigation against the president, and yet he's running it.

00:25:22.020 So, there's all kinds of conflicts of interest here.

00:25:24.700 Very difficult to sort out what's actually going on, but the upshot, again, is that I think the public is starting to tire of the Mueller investigation and to believe it's not going to lead to anything except a political conclusion.

00:25:34.960 Yeah.

00:25:35.300 Let me show a quick clip.

00:25:36.460 You mentioned Rod Rosenstein.

00:25:37.600 He's the Deputy Attorney General.

00:25:39.540 For reasons that I will never understand, Jeff Sessions, who was a Trump loyalist, recused himself from any of these matters and basically let Rosenstein set it up.

00:25:49.700 I first encountered his name when he wrote an official memo firing Jim Comey, and it was a scathing on-the-point memo.

00:25:56.560 But for him to be running things, as you say, running this Mueller investigation, but not providing information to Trump when Trump has the executive power over the police and the Department of Justice is so weird.

00:26:09.700 Let me show you a quick clip, Joel.

00:26:10.920 I know you've seen this before.

00:26:12.500 Donald Trump today was meeting with the president of South Korea, and a journalist said,

00:26:18.280 well, how do you feel about Rod Rosenstein?

00:26:20.740 And take a look at his answer.

00:26:23.460 Is there confidence in Rod Rosenstein?

00:26:26.480 What's your next question, please?

00:26:28.700 I'm a reporter for the president of South Korea here.

00:26:33.380 Yes.

00:26:33.740 Okay.

00:26:34.040 I have a question.

00:26:34.520 He doesn't want to hear these questions, if you don't mind.

00:26:38.120 You know, Joel, it reminds me of Donald Trump when he was the host of The Apprentice.

00:26:42.780 His shtick is firing people.

00:26:44.560 His shtick is a shtick.

00:26:45.920 He does it.

00:26:46.560 I mean, he's probably fired more cabinet appointees and senior staff.

00:26:50.340 I mean, he loves firing people.

00:26:51.840 He's not afraid to do it.

00:26:53.040 He calls it shuffling the deck.

00:26:54.340 If I was Rod Rosenstein, I would take that as a very grave signal that maybe your days

00:27:00.520 are numbered.

00:27:04.200 Well, it would be very difficult for the president to fire him.

00:27:07.160 I just think he didn't want to be pinned down on having any kind of confidence in him.

00:27:10.440 I think that his appointment has proved to be very frustrating to the president.

00:27:14.240 The president appointed him on the advice of people who knew about the available personnel.

00:27:19.020 He's a Republican nominally, and he had a very good track record.

00:27:23.660 I watched his confirmation hearing myself, and I was very impressed by him.

00:27:27.020 But he has turned out to be an institutional man.

00:27:29.500 He is defending the entrenched power of the bureaucracy and the prerogatives of bureaucracy,

00:27:34.200 even though, again, bizarrely, he's the one who justified firing James Comey.

00:27:38.880 So we're basically through the looking glass here, and it's very hard for ordinary citizens,

00:27:45.460 even very well-informed people, to make head or tail of it.

00:27:47.860 I think that basically what it amounts to is that the Democrats have been able to run

00:27:52.220 a witch hunt, to use President Trump's term, through the special counsel.

00:27:59.220 There was no way for Jeff Sessions to avoid recusing himself, unfortunately.

00:28:02.460 I think the rules of the Justice Department would have made him do that,

00:28:04.760 and perhaps that should have been a consideration before he was appointed.

00:28:07.580 But the investigation, the special counsel of the investigation, has far exceeded its mandate.

00:28:12.740 It's long outlived its purpose.

00:28:14.600 It hasn't uncovered no evidence of Russia collusion.

00:28:17.220 And it's now being run essentially as a political vehicle for Democrats to turn to impeachment

00:28:21.980 if they regain their position in the House of Representatives.

00:28:24.980 And I think that's what people need to know about it.

00:28:27.000 That's what they do know about it.

00:28:28.680 And that's going to have a political judgment, I think, in November.

00:28:31.840 I think voters are going to come to the polls to decide whether or not this is a course

00:28:35.540 of action they continue to want the government to pursue.

00:28:39.020 And I think they're going to vote no, which is why I think Democrats are trying to back

00:28:41.920 away from impeachment, because they see it's a loser.

00:28:45.480 But I think that's where all this is going, if the Democrats win back their majority.

00:28:49.600 And so I think that ultimately this is going to have a political verdict.

00:28:52.440 I think if the midterm elections go Republicans' way, that more than anything else will put

00:28:56.400 an end to the Mueller probe.

00:28:57.880 Yeah.

00:28:57.980 We've taken so much of your time, Joel.

00:29:00.620 I appreciate it.

00:29:01.180 But I just have one more question, because this whole Mueller thing, this Russia collusion

00:29:05.600 thing, it's been a year now.

00:29:06.760 It's such a distraction.

00:29:08.280 Time, energy, money, mental space.

00:29:10.940 But the president keeps having successful weeks.

00:29:14.720 I mean, just give me 30 seconds on his deal with China.

00:29:19.900 Everyone was saying, oh, this China thing's falling apart.

00:29:21.940 Trump announced some negotiated adjustment to the trade deficit, where China would basically

00:29:30.520 agree to import hundreds of billions of dollars more in American goods without a trade war.

00:29:35.500 Can you give me 30 seconds on that?

00:29:38.680 Well, I think the negotiations are still ongoing.

00:29:40.940 But the idea is that China would agree to buy more of our goods, especially agricultural goods.

00:29:45.840 Remember that the farming sector in the United States was probably the one sector of Trump's

00:29:51.160 support that was hardest hit by the decision to stay out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership,

00:29:55.380 that multilateral trade deal on the Pacific Rim that Trump didn't like.

00:29:58.800 Even Democrats didn't like it.

00:29:59.920 But the farmers like it because they want to be able to sell their products more cheaply

00:30:06.040 abroad, and especially in the Asian markets.

00:30:08.660 So what Trump basically achieved was a commitment from China to buy agricultural goods from the

00:30:13.500 United States without rejoining the trade, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and to do so in

00:30:18.940 exchange for some concessions on perhaps steel and aluminum.

00:30:22.300 I don't know all the details of it.

00:30:23.560 It's still very much up in the air.

00:30:24.980 And Trump today is saying there weren't deals reached on certain points.

00:30:29.820 So we don't know.

00:30:30.880 But basically, what is interesting is that China is, for the first time, forced to make

00:30:35.460 concessions to the United States on issues of trade.

00:30:38.200 No president in the last 30 years has stood up to China the way President Trump has. 0.78

00:30:42.880 People are criticizing the terms of the deal.

00:30:44.860 Marco Rubio, senator from Florida, one of Trump's rivals in 2016, said that Trump is basically

00:30:49.440 getting played by China.

00:30:50.680 China is getting the better of some of these deals.

00:30:52.660 We don't know.

00:30:53.220 I actually don't, and I personally don't know enough to judge.

00:30:55.800 But what is interesting is that the Chinese are at least being asked and seem to be complying

00:31:01.700 with the request to make some concessions to American industry and to agriculture, which

00:31:05.880 I think is a big step in the right direction.

00:31:07.460 Yeah.

00:31:07.780 You know, I've said before that Barack Obama is probably the worst negotiator in American

00:31:11.620 presidential history, whether it was Ukraine or Iran.

00:31:15.380 And Trump, whatever else you can say about him, the guy is used to elbows up deal making

00:31:19.320 in Manhattan real estate.

00:31:21.140 I can't imagine a trickier business.

00:31:23.420 Whatever concessions he gets from China is more than zero.

00:31:27.280 And I think he's had a great week.

00:31:28.880 Joel, I've kept you so long.

00:31:29.900 I love talking to you.

00:31:30.900 We'll have to let you go because you have real work to do there at Breitbart.com.

00:31:33.740 We're always glad to have you joining us.

00:31:35.520 Thanks for your time today.

00:31:37.480 Thank you.

00:31:38.140 All right.

00:31:38.400 There's our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.

00:31:42.660 And a real Trump follower.

00:31:44.740 Very, very interesting thoughts there.

00:31:46.920 I wonder what will happen with this Mueller investigation.

00:31:49.080 Stay with us.

00:31:49.700 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:32:02.160 Welcome back.

00:32:03.140 Well, we follow Venezuela fairly closely here at The Rebel, even though it's very far away

00:32:07.180 from our home base here in Toronto, geographically speaking.

00:32:10.280 But the people have suffered so much through the brutal socialist regime.

00:32:15.920 And at the same time that they suffer from the socialism and the military authoritarianism,

00:32:21.440 the restrictions of civil liberties and free speech, at the same time there has been a campaign

00:32:26.700 by Hollywood celebrities, but also left-wing politicians from Bernie Sanders to our own

00:32:31.820 Canadian NDP to whitewash the atrocities in that regime, even though they're now literally on

00:32:38.640 the brink of starvation.

00:32:39.680 The average Venezuelan has lost more than 18 pounds due to malnourishment.

00:32:43.980 That might sound great if you're fat like me or losing 18 pounds, but when an entire country

00:32:49.340 loses 18 pounds because of malnutrition, it is horrific.

00:32:52.800 That is a famine in a country that has, depending on whose reserves you count, the first or the

00:32:59.720 second largest oil reserves in the world, either number one or slightly behind Saudi Arabia.

00:33:05.640 Well, we've been frustrated by how Venezuela treats its own people and how America, under 1.00

00:33:11.520 the Obama regime, has treated Venezuela with kid gloves.

00:33:15.040 So it's refreshing to see an executive order just yesterday by President Trump.

00:33:20.480 And I'd like to read it to you, and then we'll talk to our key ally on Venezuelan matters

00:33:24.480 in a moment.

00:33:24.920 But let me read to you the news from Donald Trump.

00:33:27.100 It's an executive order.

00:33:28.000 And he says, I have signed an executive order to prevent the Maduro regime from selling or

00:33:35.060 collateralizing certain Venezuelan financial assets and to prohibit the regime from earning

00:33:40.340 money from the sale of certain entities of the Venezuelan government.

00:33:44.640 The United States remains committed to the Venezuelan people who have suffered immensely under

00:33:49.880 the Maduro regime.

00:33:51.440 We call for the Maduro regime to restore democracy, hold free and fair elections, release all political

00:33:57.060 prisoners immediately and unconditionally, and end the repression and economic deprivation

00:34:01.520 of the Venezuelan people.

00:34:03.460 I found that very compelling.

00:34:05.120 And I note the terminology, Maduro regime, to personalize it as an authoritarian versus standing

00:34:12.540 with the Venezuelan people.

00:34:14.020 I notice the reference to civil liberties and democracy.

00:34:17.840 I'm very pleased with this.

00:34:19.480 It's a symbolic step with a little bit of bite.

00:34:24.100 But I think the symbolism is what's so valuable to me.

00:34:27.060 Joining us now to give us a more expert take on the subject is our friend Joseph Humeyer.

00:34:31.320 He's the executive director of the Center for a Secure, Free Society.

00:34:35.740 Great to see you again, Joseph.

00:34:37.620 What do you make of this as executive order?

00:34:40.220 I'm encouraged by it.

00:34:41.500 Is it a step in the right direction?

00:34:43.880 Is it too little?

00:34:44.700 Or is there some real bite to it?

00:34:46.900 I know it's great to be on your show again.

00:34:49.500 No, it's got a tremendous amount of bite.

00:34:51.420 This is a one part of a multifaceted strategy that the Trump administration is implementing,

00:34:55.660 along with regional allies on the crisis in Venezuela.

00:34:59.780 So the strategy is basically designed to take away all the stability that the regime holds

00:35:07.140 from its financial benefactors, meaning its extra regional financial benefactors, Iran,

00:35:12.580 Russia, China.

00:35:13.220 But also its ties to illicit enterprises and all kinds of corruption schemes that it's been

00:35:19.060 involved in over the last 20 years under the Chavez administration.

00:35:23.500 So it's very strategic.

00:35:25.220 I think you'll see more of this.

00:35:26.660 They also sanctioned one of the top guys in the Venezuelan power structure.

00:35:30.480 His name is Diosdaro Cabello.

00:35:32.420 He's pretty much the leader of a cartel in Venezuela that's a military cartel.

00:35:36.480 And so this is one action among a series of actions that are moving in this direction.

00:35:40.740 I do have one critique with it, and not just with this executive order, but in general with

00:35:45.400 the strategy, is that there's a premise behind the Trump administration.

00:35:49.500 I think the intelligence community writ large, that the regime, the Venezuelan regime, the

00:35:53.620 Maduro regime wants to maintain power and that their only goal is to keep power and keep

00:35:59.280 control.

00:36:00.380 And while that could be the case, I think it could be also a false premise because maybe

00:36:06.680 the regime is not just worried about keeping control, but they want to start a war.

00:36:11.880 And so Hugo Chavez kind of proved this to me because Hugo Chavez, if all Hugo Chavez cared

00:36:17.980 about was keeping power, he would not have ran the stump his last year when he was in

00:36:21.520 stage four cancer.

00:36:22.740 He would have not gone to Cuba for medical treatment.

00:36:24.360 He would have actually cured the disease that was killing him.

00:36:26.940 But he decided to continue to advance the revolution because it was more important to him than his

00:36:31.520 own personal help, which led to his death.

00:36:33.280 So to me, there are some very hardcore revolutionaries in Venezuela that are tied to hardcore revolutionaries

00:36:39.860 in Iran, in Russia and other parts of the world.

00:36:42.900 And the time and the calculations has been made, it's time for conflict and it's time

00:36:47.580 for war.

00:36:48.100 And then the war in Venezuela, civil war, quote unquote, will be designed to export more

00:36:52.160 refugees and destabilize the rest of Latin America. 1.00

00:36:54.540 So if I'm right, that's bad news for everybody.

00:36:57.600 If I'm wrong, hopefully the Trump administration is correct on this.

00:37:00.140 I hope I'm wrong.

00:37:00.740 Well, this is very interesting and it goes to the revolutionary nature of so many of

00:37:06.100 these socialist strongmen.

00:37:09.880 Now, I know that Venezuela in the past has tried to destabilize some of its democratic

00:37:14.160 neighbors, including, if I'm not mistaken, Colombia.

00:37:16.780 When you say a war and you refer to Iran, which has a bizarrely close relationship with 1.00

00:37:23.420 Venezuela, what would the war look like?

00:37:25.360 Like, I mean, I know they have a slow burn civil liberties war against their own people

00:37:30.800 and Cuba helps provide the shock troops.

00:37:33.380 But do you mean war like an international war or do you mean?

00:37:37.040 Yes.

00:37:37.840 What do you mean?

00:37:38.540 It'll be an extension of the conflict in Syria.

00:37:41.400 Venezuela and Syria are snappling to one another, not just in terms of their governments, but

00:37:45.660 in terms of populations.

00:37:46.780 I mean, I think I mentioned, if not on your show and other shows, that there's populations

00:37:50.600 in Syria, for example, one city, Asawaida, that has 65% Venezuelan-born dual citizens.

00:37:56.840 350,000 Venezuelans live in that city.

00:37:59.340 In certain cities in eastern Venezuela, you have hundreds of thousands of Syrians.

00:38:03.180 I mean, they've created a linkage between these two countries because they look at them as

00:38:05.900 proxy wars on behalf, and mostly on behalf of Iran.

00:38:09.780 Well, so who would they fight against?

00:38:12.900 I mean, I know it's very hard to be a Venezuelan, let alone to be a Venezuelan democracy activist.

00:38:20.260 So I see that, I mean, when you phrase civil war, but in a way, Maduro has already won the

00:38:25.680 civil war, like he's the boss of Venezuela.

00:38:27.660 Are you talking about a war against neighbors?

00:38:30.640 Are you talking about exporting violence to the United States?

00:38:34.880 I just want to understand a little bit more about this bad news scenario that you think

00:38:40.960 could be looming.

00:38:42.620 No, sure.

00:38:43.440 No, I'm talking about both.

00:38:45.120 So the civil conflict, civil war, if you want to call it that, in Venezuela is kind of already

00:38:49.100 happening, and it'll just get worse when the military decides to clash with the Venezuelan,

00:38:54.160 with the Maduro regime, and that's inevitably going to happen because the conditions have

00:38:57.700 been set for that over time.

00:38:59.740 But they also, if you follow the Venezuelan military doctrine, Plan Sucre, Plan Zamora,

00:39:05.520 these that they've articulated, and Chávez has said this many times, and Maduro has continued

00:39:10.020 it, the war that they've always wanted to create is with Colombia.

00:39:13.420 Because on a strategic level, what Venezuela, what the Bolivarian revolution that Chávez

00:39:16.900 created was all about, was about redrawing the map and redrawing Latin America so that

00:39:21.780 they create one country.

00:39:22.700 It's called Gran Colombia, it's a throwback to a history from Simon Bolivar's time, to

00:39:28.500 basically unify the Latin American people against the United States.

00:39:31.880 This is an extension of the concept of greater Syria and the Middle East and the Nazareth 0.94

00:39:35.320 and Arab socialist nationalist movements in the 20th century of their time.

00:39:39.740 So they have a strategic plan.

00:39:41.580 The question is, can they get there?

00:39:43.000 If it was just Nicolas Maduro and his people, I'd say probably not.

00:39:45.980 But they have the backing of some of the most advanced revolutions in the world, including

00:39:48.820 the Iranians and the Russians.

00:39:50.400 So I think that that's the goal.

00:39:51.800 Well, I tell you, such intrigues.

00:39:54.460 And I would normally say, well, that's fantastical.

00:39:57.140 But the information you've provided to us in our past conversations about the deep linkages

00:40:03.060 between Iran, Syria, and Venezuela, including, was it the vice president of Venezuela who deep

00:40:11.480 ties?

00:40:12.100 It's shocking.

00:40:13.100 I would put it to you, 99.9% of people in Canada and the United States do not know about

00:40:18.980 these deep...

00:40:19.500 I mean, they may have seen Chavez and Maduro meet with the Iranian bosses.

00:40:25.100 But I don't think they know that those ties go all the way down to the grassroots level.

00:40:29.660 I have a question for you.

00:40:30.880 Talk about some of these financial structures and cartels and companies.

00:40:36.260 I'm familiar with some of the larger oil companies.

00:40:39.260 Of course, there's a state company called Peta Vesa, which is a huge, huge oil company.

00:40:43.980 There's even a gas station chain in the United States called Citgo that was acquired by Venezuela.

00:40:52.300 Has Donald Trump and his administration focused on those two big entities at all?

00:40:58.420 Or is it just on some of these other financial infrastructure companies you talked about?

00:41:04.760 They have.

00:41:06.920 They haven't gone the full board.

00:41:08.540 They haven't sanctioned this entity, Peta Vesa, or all its subsidiaries.

00:41:12.560 But they have actually sanctioned the individuals that run these companies.

00:41:15.760 So, and by extension, if you sanction the CEO of Peta Vesa, it's almost like a sanction on Peta Vesa

00:41:19.820 without having to sanction the actual company.

00:41:22.580 But what's concerned with the U.S. and I think other parts is the way Peta Vesa has been used

00:41:28.100 as both a slush fund throughout the years to prop up other dictators throughout Latin America

00:41:32.140 and a massive money laundering scheme to the point that I think the Venezuelan government

00:41:37.220 got so good at using Peta Vesa to launder money, they forgot it was designed to export oil.

00:41:41.260 And so their oil exportation kind of plummeted while their money laundering went rampant.

00:41:47.160 The Russians actually got involved as well.

00:41:49.200 They, because there's a lot of debt and oil debt, particularly between the Venezuelans

00:41:55.600 and the Russians, the Russians decided to set up a collateral deal where they would try

00:41:59.440 to service the debt in terms of buying out collateral, acquiring collateral from the

00:42:02.940 Venezuelan government.

00:42:03.680 And one of those was Citgo.

00:42:05.180 And that caught the policymakers here in the U.S. because they were worried that if the

00:42:08.340 Russians own 50% of Citgo, it's like having a Russian gas station here in all kinds of

00:42:13.640 pockets of the United States.

00:42:14.660 And so they didn't like that.

00:42:15.740 But the Russians ended up just, it was actually a trick. 0.93

00:42:17.560 The Russians ended up leveraging that collateral to buy more or to attain more control of the

00:42:23.700 heavy crude oil fields inside Venezuela, what's called the Oranoico Belt.

00:42:26.840 Right.

00:42:27.000 So the Russians actually, the Russians and Chinese control a lot of that.

00:42:29.900 That's incredible.

00:42:30.980 I mean, depending on whose assessment of world reserves you trust, it's generally considered

00:42:37.020 that Venezuela has the largest reserves, even more than Saudi Arabia.

00:42:41.240 And it's actually similar to Canadian oil sands oil in terms of its heavy oil.

00:42:46.300 It's huge.

00:42:48.140 And the fact that Russia or Iran or Cuba might have their claws in that is terrifying.

00:42:52.800 I want to close with an image.

00:42:54.460 And you know this one well, Joseph, because we're talking about Trump slowly rising the

00:43:00.080 challenge, at least rhetorically bringing some sanctions.

00:43:02.060 I think it's important that we remember that during the Obama administration, he had not

00:43:08.440 just, at least in the early days, not just a friendship with Hugo Chavez, but it was a

00:43:14.360 sort of a spirit of revolutionaries together.

00:43:18.160 I mean, when world leaders meet, they usually shake hands.

00:43:21.600 Sometimes they hug.

00:43:22.600 But look at this image here.

00:43:23.680 And I know you've seen this a hundred times, Joseph.

00:43:25.460 It's sort of, you know, high-fiving and embracing between Barack Obama on the left there, Hugo

00:43:34.660 Chavez, and in the background, you can see a younger, Nicholas Maduro, who succeeded Chavez.

00:43:40.600 That chummy friendship, that Marxists against the West, like they were ideological allies. 0.92

00:43:47.760 There was love in Obama's eyes, or admiration that really was there.

00:43:51.840 I thought that was a great shame to the United States, and I feel like the tone of this executive

00:43:58.700 order is a fitting rebuke.

00:44:01.280 I don't know.

00:44:01.480 I just felt like ending on that note.

00:44:03.060 Do you have something you'd like to say about ending that?

00:44:07.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:44:08.120 You know what's most ironic about that picture?

00:44:09.860 And I agree with you.

00:44:10.340 There's an ideological kinship between Obama and Chavez and probably several other of these

00:44:14.520 kind of socialist sympathizers throughout the world.

00:44:17.240 But what's most ironic about that picture is that picture was taken at a conference called

00:44:21.960 the Summit of the Americas that's organized by the Organization of American States.

00:44:25.680 The United States funds the Organization of American States upwards of 60% of their annual

00:44:29.980 budget.

00:44:30.360 So this is like taxpayer dollars going to organize a summit where one of the most anti-American

00:44:36.520 actors that ever existed in Latin America is basically hugging the U.S. president.

00:44:40.600 So that's ironic in my mind, and it shouldn't be funny, but you just got to laugh at it at a

00:44:45.660 certain point.

00:44:46.080 Yeah, well, I guess it's like America funding so much of the atrocities at the United Nations

00:44:51.340 building in New York.

00:44:52.700 Well, Joseph, I know you and I have talked many times for many years now, actually, about

00:44:56.560 Venezuela, and it's often bad news.

00:44:59.040 We didn't have time to talk about the latest vote there, but we'll do that on another occasion.

00:45:03.160 I hope that this executive order by Donald Trump is a baby step towards speaking, you know,

00:45:11.140 calling evil by its proper name.

00:45:12.680 I think you have to get your language and ideas first before you can take steps, and

00:45:17.200 I find this a refreshing change from the high fives that Obama gave Chavez and Maduro.

00:45:22.140 Great to see you again.

00:45:23.100 Thanks for fighting this fight in Washington with the lawmakers.

00:45:25.540 I know you try so hard to wake them up on this, and thanks for doing that.

00:45:29.480 Absolutely.

00:45:30.520 Thanks, Ezra.

00:45:31.060 Absolutely, and we'll continue the conversation.

00:45:32.940 Thanks again.

00:45:33.380 I know you will.

00:45:33.660 That's great.

00:45:34.260 Well, Joseph Humeyer joined us again, very educational as always.

00:45:37.980 He's the executive director of the Center for a Secure and Free Society, telling us about

00:45:42.960 a small step by the Trump administration to take sanctions against the Venezuelan regime.

00:45:48.480 Stay with us.

00:45:49.600 Your letters next on The Rebel.

00:45:50.880 Hey, welcome back.

00:46:03.160 On my special interview yesterday with Conrad Black and his new book, Donald J. Trump, a

00:46:07.120 president like no other, Moyes writes,

00:46:09.380 I thoroughly enjoyed and was very much educated by your interview with Conrad Black.

00:46:13.220 I rather thought that he was a bit of a conceited person.

00:46:15.520 He proved me wrong, and I'm humbled.

00:46:17.160 He was certainly congenial and very engaging with you, Ezra.

00:46:19.580 I'm so glad you had him on, and I, as you said, for nearly an hour.

00:46:25.340 The time flew by.

00:46:26.140 Thanks again, Ezra.

00:46:27.200 Most sadly, RPM is just a flake like Barack Hussein Obama, and both lovers of godless radical 0.89

00:46:33.440 Islamists. 0.54

00:46:34.340 God deliver us.

00:46:35.820 Well, Moyes, I gotta admit, I'm a bit of a fanboy, and I think I got too excited, and 0.86

00:46:42.300 I don't know, some other folks said I sucked up a bit.

00:46:45.720 I probably did.

00:46:46.640 I tell you, there's two interviewees that I get sort of a fanboy with, Conrad Black and

00:46:53.180 Jordan Peterson, and I won't lie, but I thought he had, first of all, I think I let him speak

00:46:58.020 at least 50% of the time.

00:46:59.640 That's a good rule of thumb for me.

00:47:01.420 If a guest is speaking 51% of the time, it's a miracle, and it was good to hear from him.

00:47:06.240 But look, I'm a fan.

00:47:07.200 What can you say?

00:47:07.940 I think he's literally like the only other pro-Trump journalist in all of Canada, so,

00:47:12.280 you know, I wanted to enjoy every minute.

00:47:16.040 Deborah writes, excellent interview with Lord Black.

00:47:19.060 I'm a huge fan of his, and will have to pick up his book on Trump.

00:47:22.820 I read his column each week, and I find it disturbing how many comments are attacking

00:47:26.200 his character due to his legal battles that landed him in jail.

00:47:30.360 Well, that's the thing about Conrad Black.

00:47:32.340 He's so resilient.

00:47:33.120 I can't believe he still has his spirit after the ringer he was put through in the States.

00:47:39.760 Robert writes, black is right. 1.00

00:47:42.360 Trump is making fewer errors.

00:47:43.900 Trump learns quickly and makes appropriate adjustments. 1.00

00:47:46.440 On the other hand, Jr. keeps doubling down on stupid. 1.00

00:47:49.860 Well, yeah, and I think I was alluding to this with Joel Pollack today. 1.00

00:47:54.020 Donald Trump shuffles the deck.

00:47:56.040 That's the phrase he says.

00:47:57.260 If he's got an executive or a lieutenant that's not working, he'll read him the riot act.

00:48:01.720 If it doesn't get fixed, he tosses them out.

00:48:05.500 I think he shocked everyone during the 2016 presidential election campaign, where he changed

00:48:10.000 his senior campaign staff, what, like four months before the election? 0.96

00:48:13.920 And everyone thought, you're crazy, you're doomed.

00:48:16.260 Well, no, I think he realized he was doomed, and he had to shake things up. 0.74

00:48:19.560 He put a Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon, and I think they won it.

00:48:24.320 I think they won it.

00:48:25.140 And, in fact, when you think about it, the, you know, the set-in-stone campaign team around

00:48:31.400 Hillary Clinton, part of the problem is they were just too comfortable. 1.00

00:48:34.380 They were in a mental rut, a psychological rut.

00:48:37.000 They believed their own BS.

00:48:39.760 They were ignoring what they were hearing on the ground.

00:48:41.760 You got a campaign in Wisconsin.

00:48:43.160 You got a campaign in Michigan.

00:48:45.100 And they just, so who won there?

00:48:47.680 The guy with his unconventional style, firing people.

00:48:50.380 I think you're right that he has learned a lot on the job.

00:48:54.240 He's replaced swamp creatures like Reince Priebus as his chief of staff with people who

00:48:59.660 just get her done.

00:49:00.680 And he is learning.

00:49:02.600 And if you take away all the storm and fury, and you look at the substantive results of

00:49:08.340 his first year and a half, he's done more than any president in recent memory has, and

00:49:13.340 that's despite this massive distraction of the Mueller Inquisition.

00:49:17.220 So I think he's actually on track to be a great president.

00:49:19.680 And as Conrad Black says, he's certainly a unique personality.

00:49:23.980 And people on the left and the right can agree to that.

00:49:26.500 I would encourage you to buy the book.

00:49:28.020 It's very quick, really.

00:49:29.280 You know, I was just looking.

00:49:30.400 Some of Conrad Black's recent books have more than a thousand pages.

00:49:34.480 I'm not saying don't read it.

00:49:35.840 I'm just saying, who's got the time to read a 1,200-page book?

00:49:38.820 Not me.

00:49:40.040 The 256 breezy pages about Donald Trump, I'll read that.

00:49:42.960 And I did.

00:49:43.920 And I got to say, I mean, I know I'm enthusing here again.

00:49:46.540 It's just a bloody good book.

00:49:47.620 Maybe I went in with low expectations, but it's a good book.

00:49:50.120 You know, I was worried because I've seen his books before.

00:49:53.120 They're that thick.

00:49:53.840 This one is not that way.

00:49:55.200 All right.

00:49:55.540 Enough book sales.

00:49:56.440 I just have to say it was great.

00:49:57.860 And yes, this is that fanboy side of me coming out.

00:50:00.900 Permit me.

00:50:01.960 Permit me to have a couple of heroes, okay?

00:50:04.840 All right, folks.

00:50:05.560 That's our show for today.

00:50:06.520 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:50:10.280 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:50:12.100 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - May 23, 2018

Ezra Levant Show May 22 2018

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