Rebel News Podcast - May 29, 2018


Ezra Levant Show May 28 2018


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8,109

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655

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Ezra Levant reflects on the three days since Tommy Robinson was jailed for contempt of court, and why he should have been given a chance to clear his name. He also talks about why he thinks the government should have done what they did to Robinson.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, it's been three days since Tommy Robinson was thrown in prison.
00:00:03.740 I have some reflections and some news.
00:00:06.160 It's May 28th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:14.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:18.040 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:21.760 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:25.100 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:28.720 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:35.480 Tommy Robinson was one of our most rambunctious employees of The Rebel.
00:00:39.520 I don't think he ever even fit the term employee.
00:00:42.240 He told me once that he never had a boss before in his whole life
00:00:45.300 and I absolutely believe it. It sure felt that way.
00:00:48.220 He was like lightning. You can't really put lightning in a bottle.
00:00:50.680 If you could, it wouldn't be lightning anymore, could it?
00:00:53.400 Anyways, when we parted amicably a few months ago,
00:00:55.840 I knew Tommy would be even more newsworthy
00:00:57.500 because he would be unrestrained by our corporate policies.
00:01:00.460 For example, Tommy went to Italy to cover the Italian elections.
00:01:03.900 He got into an argument with a migrant who threatened to kill Tommy.
00:01:08.840 Well, you don't say that to Tommy.
00:01:11.000 Boom. Just down like a, just down on the ground.
00:01:20.540 I mean, that's exciting TV, but you can imagine how it would give me
00:01:23.700 back here at Rebel World Headquarters ulcers when he worked for us at The Rebel
00:01:27.680 if he had done that.
00:01:28.300 When he went independent, it let me, for the first time,
00:01:30.640 just sort of enjoy Tommy's exciting work again
00:01:33.940 instead of always worrying about things.
00:01:36.140 I told you on Friday that I saw Tommy doing a Facebook live stream
00:01:39.300 from the street in front of the courthouse in Leeds, UK.
00:01:42.180 I don't have time to watch everything out there that I want to watch,
00:01:45.020 but I made time for this maybe because it made me a bit nervous.
00:01:47.860 A year ago, Tommy was standing in front of the court in Canterbury
00:01:50.480 and was later charged and convicted for contempt of court.
00:01:55.700 But I watched Tommy this time,
00:01:56.960 and he seemed to have learned the lessons from that day a year ago.
00:01:59.480 He said they were accused criminals, not criminals.
00:02:02.400 He didn't stand on the courthouse property at all,
00:02:05.480 not even the sidewalk in front of the court,
00:02:07.200 and he wasn't saying any facts about the trial that weren't already public.
00:02:11.280 In fact, there was a moment when he was quoting
00:02:13.020 from the British state broadcaster, the BBC.
00:02:16.740 That's where he was going through the names of the men
00:02:18.380 who were accused of raping girls as young as 11 years old
00:02:21.580 again and again in a gang.
00:02:24.140 So Tommy was giving his own opinions,
00:02:25.720 but to me it certainly looked like he was following the rules.
00:02:28.620 But then he was arrested, as I showed you that day.
00:02:30.640 I'll give you some new news in a moment.
00:02:32.400 But just to recap, this is what police said to him on Friday
00:02:35.160 when he was just standing outside the court in Leeds.
00:02:37.640 The content of what I'm streaming,
00:02:40.040 I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
00:02:41.320 Are you watching him?
00:02:42.140 I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
00:02:43.200 You've all watched this.
00:02:43.940 Oh, my God.
00:02:45.160 You've all watched this.
00:02:46.420 You've all watched this.
00:02:47.480 Can you get me a slisser?
00:02:48.520 Can you get me a slisser?
00:02:49.480 Can you just turn off your life feet, please?
00:02:50.700 Can you get me a slisser?
00:02:51.660 Just turn off your life feet, please. 0.99
00:02:52.840 Yeah?
00:02:53.880 Do you understand what I'm just looking for you?
00:02:55.160 So can you explain it again?
00:02:56.340 I'm being arrested for breach of the peace.
00:02:58.620 What does that mean?
00:02:59.200 What does that mean?
00:03:01.120 What does that mean, officer?
00:03:01.460 What does that mean?
00:03:03.900 What does that mean?
00:03:05.080 What does that mean?
00:03:05.740 I've been told that the police have been doing the case for one hundred and a hundred.
00:03:09.920 He's a great friend to build them down.
00:03:12.000 Not at all.
00:03:12.700 He's never said that.
00:03:13.600 George, that's the information I've got.
00:03:15.320 That's the only information we've got.
00:03:16.540 I'm in sight of people.
00:03:17.120 I'm in sight of people.
00:03:17.140 You know, you've walked up through his video.
00:03:19.120 How have I been watching?
00:03:19.860 He hasn't.
00:03:20.700 This is free speech.
00:03:21.640 This is where we're at.
00:03:22.980 You're not even allowed to.
00:03:24.060 Look at this.
00:03:24.860 Look how many people.
00:03:25.500 It's not.
00:03:25.800 No matter what you're trying to write.
00:03:26.640 Do you know when you do this?
00:03:27.360 More people are going to watch this now than ever.
00:03:38.340 This is ridiculous, lads.
00:03:39.220 Do you feel right what you're doing here?
00:03:40.860 I haven't said a word.
00:03:41.960 In fact, someone laid their hand in an assault with me outside court.
00:03:44.420 Other people have shwored me and threatened me about my mother.
00:03:47.600 And here I am being arrested for saying nothing.
00:03:49.440 I'm threatened to behead me.
00:03:50.280 I've done nothing.
00:03:51.700 What are they arresting you for, Tommy?
00:03:52.980 Preach of the peace.
00:03:53.800 Apparently I'm in sighting on my video.
00:03:55.440 Can you please, George, get me a solicitor?
00:03:58.480 Yeah.
00:03:58.860 Because I'm not.
00:04:00.140 You don't have to.
00:04:00.520 I'm not suspended.
00:04:01.280 Send it to see you.
00:04:02.220 He has actually done nothing wrong.
00:04:04.560 You can start anything like that.
00:04:06.040 Let's see.
00:04:08.540 Now, that's the last we saw of him.
00:04:10.920 Of course, Tommy was not disturbing the peace.
00:04:12.820 There was no one out there on the street.
00:04:14.260 Tommy was just talking to a Facebook video through his cell phone.
00:04:17.360 But think about that for a moment.
00:04:18.740 Imagine the police power to arrest someone for peacefully giving a political commentary on Facebook Live.
00:04:23.800 And just calling that disturbing the peace.
00:04:26.300 I say again, Tommy was not on the courthouse property, not even on his front steps.
00:04:30.180 So police arrested him for talking on Facebook.
00:04:32.540 If they could arrest him across from the courthouse for that, why could they not arrest him at his home for that?
00:04:38.020 Anywhere.
00:04:38.560 For what he says on Facebook or YouTube?
00:04:40.960 And indeed, they do that in the UK now.
00:04:42.860 And you know the rest.
00:04:44.640 If you watch my show on Friday, he was rushed before the judge in the case, not even allowed to call his regular lawyers.
00:04:50.280 The ones who know him, who know his history, who might be expert in certain areas of the law.
00:04:54.540 He was given a public defender.
00:04:56.140 I'm sure he was a nice guy.
00:04:57.320 But not anyone who knew Tommy or the special facts and the special area of law.
00:05:02.060 And so it is unsurprising, but still shocking, that Tommy was sentenced to 13 months in prison.
00:05:06.940 A year ago, when Tommy faced the same contempt of court hearing in Canterbury, when we worked with him,
00:05:13.600 we were at least able to get him home that night and have the hearing postponed a week or two.
00:05:18.500 And we brought in not one, not two, but three top lawyers, a bit of a junior dream team, I guess.
00:05:23.740 And we got Tommy out because it's a complicated area of law, contempt of court.
00:05:27.560 We needed to hire the best.
00:05:29.480 But even though we won that case a year ago, the judge was terrifying.
00:05:32.640 Look at this from the ruling last year.
00:05:34.440 This is from the court transcript.
00:05:35.740 Mr. Kowalewski is the name of our top lawyer in the time that we hired.
00:05:40.300 I accept what Mr. Kowalewski tells me about the dangers that you might face were you to be sent into immediate custody.
00:05:46.840 This is the judge I'm quoting.
00:05:48.540 I have to say it is on a knife edge, so far as I'm concerned, because a very large part of me thinks, so what?
00:05:54.780 You can be put into protective custody.
00:05:58.500 So the judge was saying, sure, he'll be in danger for your life, but so what?
00:06:02.500 He can go in solitary confinement for a few months.
00:06:06.200 Because you shot a 45-second selfie video.
00:06:08.600 I tell you, they treat Guantanamo Bay terrorists better.
00:06:11.000 That is a fact.
00:06:12.400 Anyways, Tommy was careful on Friday, but that didn't stop him from being arrested.
00:06:16.340 But from arrest to drumhead trial to conviction to sentence, what, an hour or two?
00:06:20.900 Sorry, that's banana republic stuff.
00:06:22.520 That's like the desaparecidos in Argentina. 0.88
00:06:28.020 Just vanished.
00:06:28.700 The disappeared ones.
00:06:30.920 That's that word in Spanish.
00:06:32.800 They would just disappear.
00:06:33.580 Never to be heard from again.
00:06:36.120 But not a word for Tommy from Amnesty International or Penn International or Reporters Without Borders.
00:06:42.160 None of those groups.
00:06:42.760 Not a word.
00:06:43.420 Not a word from CNN or the New York Times or even from the BBC or the UK tabloids.
00:06:47.740 Nothing.
00:06:48.780 In the United States, Fox News had a story.
00:06:51.160 Give them credit.
00:06:51.980 They called Tommy far right, but let that small insult pass.
00:06:54.980 At least they reported the story.
00:06:56.320 Not a peep from the mainstream media other than them.
00:07:00.280 The Drudge Report made it their top story.
00:07:02.200 I bet it got a million clicks, including from the UK, where the whole matter is under a publication
00:07:07.000 ban.
00:07:07.460 The judge who sentenced Tommy made it illegal to report that sentence.
00:07:11.520 It's not funny, eh?
00:07:12.960 Banana Republic stuff.
00:07:14.280 I'm going to sentence you and then ban people from saying I sentenced you.
00:07:18.160 Donald Trump Jr. tweeted about it, too.
00:07:20.140 He said it's a reason why the United States had a revolution in 1776.
00:07:24.320 He called that the original Brexit.
00:07:26.160 Those are good quips, but seriously, I'm glad that someone, anyone, even the son of
00:07:29.680 the president, mentioned the case.
00:07:31.660 How about an actual elected official, though, especially in the UK?
00:07:35.080 Here's one member of the European Parliament, a UKIP MP or MEP, Gerard Batten, who did, who
00:07:43.460 is speaking out, but that's about it.
00:07:46.400 No one from the governing Tories, not even the official UKIP party or what's left of it
00:07:50.480 other than this MEP.
00:07:51.560 He, Gerrit Wilders, the Dutch politician who was prosecuted for hate speech in his own
00:07:55.800 country, he spoke out.
00:07:56.780 As you can see here, he stood in front of the UK embassy in Holland.
00:08:00.700 Hopefully there will be more protests like it, but so far, it's just the margins, not
00:08:04.280 the heart.
00:08:04.760 There's no prime ministers or presidents speaking out.
00:08:06.900 And where are all the liberals?
00:08:09.500 Do you doubt it if it's some liberal citizen journalists were swept off the streets and swept
00:08:13.840 into prison and a gag order put on top, that this would be international news around the
00:08:17.780 world if it had been Donald Trump who did it or Stephen Harper who did it to a leftist?
00:08:23.700 But of course, there are different standards.
00:08:25.260 Do you remember this guy here?
00:08:26.840 Nakula Basile Nakula.
00:08:29.300 Hard to forget that name.
00:08:30.600 Al-Qaeda, an American filmmaker originally from the Middle East who made a short YouTube video
00:08:34.840 about Islam.
00:08:36.460 And Hillary Clinton blamed him and his video for the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S.
00:08:42.980 consulate in Benghazi.
00:08:45.140 They said his little YouTube film caused a terrorist attack of 100 terrorists.
00:08:49.980 No, no, it wasn't al-Qaeda, you see.
00:08:51.620 It was this American filmmaker.
00:08:53.280 Hillary said anything.
00:08:54.980 Obama said anything to pretend al-Qaeda didn't do it. 0.99
00:08:58.360 And they threw that American filmmaker in jail.
00:09:00.960 He's a journalist of sorts.
00:09:02.080 He's a filmmaker.
00:09:02.860 They threw him in jail.
00:09:04.560 And yeah, different standards when it's a leftist president who does it.
00:09:09.620 I spoke several times with Tommy's wife and family and lawyer over the past few days.
00:09:13.260 It sounds like they still haven't had a chance to meet with Tommy in person.
00:09:16.660 Can you believe that?
00:09:17.320 That's an outrage in itself.
00:09:18.440 His own lawyer, his own family.
00:09:19.760 I say again, can you tell me in what way Tommy's situation does not qualify him as a
00:09:24.340 political prisoner?
00:09:25.040 I cannot think of a way, other than we don't normally talk like that about people in the
00:09:29.520 U.K. or the U.S. and Canada, and yet here we are.
00:09:32.780 So the family tells me they want to wait until they speak to Tommy before making any decisions
00:09:36.340 on crowdfunding or any other offers of help.
00:09:38.400 I get it.
00:09:38.980 They don't have instructions from the key guy.
00:09:40.920 They're feeling shell-shocked, and they're surely getting advice from all quarters, from
00:09:45.780 meddlers.
00:09:46.500 I suppose we are meddlers in a way.
00:09:47.820 Tommy doesn't work for us anymore.
00:09:49.160 We have no standing, but we support him morally, and we help give him his start in journalism,
00:09:52.940 and we still like what he's doing, and we have a track record with him and with helping
00:09:56.100 him in this very exact problem a year ago.
00:09:58.460 So I offered help, and I'll stand down until it's specifically asked of me.
00:10:01.660 Any crowdfunding sites out there that you see, they are rogue, other than Tommy's own website.
00:10:06.020 Nothing claiming to be for his aid is actually authorized.
00:10:09.820 But there is one thing we can do, one thing we have a standing to do on our own.
00:10:15.600 Without the instruction of Tommy or his family.
00:10:17.640 Something that, in fact, we ought to do, and that we can do, and not everyone can do, but
00:10:22.360 we can.
00:10:23.640 And that is challenge this publication ban in court.
00:10:28.160 You can do it.
00:10:29.440 Here's the book that tells you how.
00:10:32.040 It's a guide for UK judges and lawyers.
00:10:34.960 You can apply to a court to have a publication ban set aside.
00:10:37.960 Did you know that?
00:10:39.560 I mentioned before, we're based here in North America.
00:10:41.600 Obviously, we're not subject to this ban, obviously, but our UK sister corporation called
00:10:46.480 Rebel News Network UK Limited, well, it's a UK company, and we have 152,000 supporters
00:10:52.940 in the UK.
00:10:53.600 Did you know that?
00:10:54.540 And we have staff there, too.
00:10:55.940 Katie Hopkins, Jack Buckby, other folks.
00:10:57.920 So our UK sister company has the standing to go to court and to fight against this ban.
00:11:03.460 It's not in Tommy's name.
00:11:04.600 It's in the name of our UK sister company's right to report.
00:11:07.480 And our UK customer's right to know, and the general public interest in having open
00:11:12.300 courts with no secret star chambers.
00:11:14.060 So we're doing that.
00:11:15.940 We've hired an outstanding lawyer who has worked with us before and worked with Tommy before.
00:11:20.220 That's him there.
00:11:20.760 His name is Daniel Burke.
00:11:21.940 Do you remember him?
00:11:22.860 He's the lawyer who took the case of Chelsea Wright, the girl from Sunderland who suffered
00:11:27.680 so brutally at the hands of a predator.
00:11:30.380 I have spoken with Daniel just this morning, and he believes this is an important case, and
00:11:34.820 he's already working on an emergency application.
00:11:37.600 He's going to try to lift the publication, man.
00:11:39.360 For us and for all of the reporters, for everyone, it's a good job for us to do.
00:11:43.720 It's shocking that it falls to us, a small independent internet-based news company, to
00:11:48.200 fight for freedom of the press and open courts in the United Kingdom.
00:11:51.080 Where's the BBC or Sky or any of the tabloids that so love to skewer Tommy when it suits them?
00:11:56.860 Where are the organizations like Amnesty International or Reporters Without Borders coming to the aid
00:12:01.480 of a citizen journalist who was arrested and sentenced faster than in any dictatorship?
00:12:06.180 Hours.
00:12:07.440 Where's Piers Morgan?
00:12:09.240 Or is he just happy to have silenced Tommy Robinson for good?
00:12:12.980 Now, we're going to crowdfund this as we always do.
00:12:15.460 We don't have huge budgets like the BBC or Sky or ITV.
00:12:18.700 If you want to help us crowdfund this court challenge to the gag order, please visit our
00:12:22.260 special website called LetUsReport.com.
00:12:26.860 LetUsReport.com.
00:12:28.120 Note that this is separate from Tommy Robinson's own case.
00:12:30.300 This is simply to pay for challenging the publication ban in the UK.
00:12:34.000 It's hard to estimate how much it'll cost.
00:12:35.640 My experience tells me it'll be approximately £20,000.
00:12:39.400 I'm going to make a video similar to this one and put it on YouTube outside the paywall
00:12:42.920 so that not just our subscribers can know about it.
00:12:45.320 Right now, Tommy's family and lawyer are still huddling and coming up with a strategy.
00:12:49.280 Let us give them their space.
00:12:50.340 But in the meantime, let us go to court to lift the publication ban on this horrific story.
00:12:55.100 Our UK company has the legal standing.
00:12:57.000 I truly believe that if the British people learned what happened to Tommy Robinson on
00:13:01.020 Friday, it would awaken within them the instincts of freedom and the rule of law that has been
00:13:05.680 the British heritage since the Magna Carta.
00:13:08.220 If you want to help crowdfund the legal costs of our emergency appeal, please go to LetUsReport.com.
00:13:13.580 There's also a petition there that we're going to deliver next week to the UK Attorney General.
00:13:17.580 His name is Jeremy Wright.
00:13:19.040 We're going to demand an investigation into the shocking treatment of Tommy by police and prosecutors.
00:13:24.000 So sign the petition.
00:13:26.400 It's something Tommy used to do to great effect in the UK when he worked at the Rebel.
00:13:29.900 Let's get 100,000 names on the petition demanding an explanation for this high-handed treatment of him.
00:13:35.420 Tommy did his part.
00:13:36.420 That's the biggest part.
00:13:37.960 He paid the biggest price.
00:13:39.600 I think this one lawsuit is our part.
00:13:42.180 Please do your part.
00:13:43.800 Please go to LetUsReport.com and let the British people know what is happening in their own country.
00:13:50.020 Thank you.
00:13:50.720 Tommy's not with our company anymore, but he's still the UK's biggest rebel, don't you think?
00:13:54.440 And I think we ought to help him, even if that just means getting rid of this publication ban.
00:13:58.800 Stay with us for more.
00:13:59.760 Well, I tell you, it is such a nail-biter, this Ontario provincial election.
00:14:21.640 It's been a rollercoaster ride ever since Patrick Brown was thrown out the window by his own party a couple months back.
00:14:27.800 Doug Ford took the leadership, another surprise, and he started with a 20-plus point lead.
00:14:33.060 But now the momentum is with the New Democrats, terrifyingly.
00:14:37.940 Well, last night was a key leaders' debate on TV.
00:14:41.300 And joining us now is someone who's been watching this debate extremely closely,
00:14:45.480 our friend Jerry Agar with News Talk 1010, the Jerry Agar Show.
00:14:49.720 Jerry, it's great to see you again.
00:14:51.600 You too, Ezra.
00:14:52.320 It's been a while.
00:14:52.860 Well, thanks for being back.
00:14:54.220 I tell you, this Ontario election is so important.
00:14:56.700 We have a lot of viewers in Western Canada, but I know that they understand that if Ontario lurches to the left
00:15:03.040 or comes back a little bit towards sanity, it impacts the whole country.
00:15:07.700 So this is actually a pretty big deal, even if you're not in Ontario, right?
00:15:12.440 Well, sure.
00:15:13.100 It was like watching the Alberta election when, after 43 years, the Conservatives needed to change.
00:15:18.400 Unfortunately, they went to the NDP.
00:15:20.380 But here's the thing.
00:15:22.360 You're right.
00:15:22.920 The momentum looks to be to the NDP.
00:15:26.240 That's on popular vote.
00:15:27.440 But I keep telling people, I don't have a crystal ball, but let's not get caught up like we did on the American election
00:15:33.060 and thinking that because Hillary Clinton had the popular vote in the polls, she was going to win. 0.54
00:15:37.740 The polls were not wrong. 0.93
00:15:39.200 People say, oh, the polls were terrible.
00:15:40.720 No, they weren't.
00:15:41.480 She won the popular vote.
00:15:42.620 But that's not how elections are decided.
00:15:44.860 Trump won the congressional vote.
00:15:46.380 And we, of course, are going to do it on seats in ridings.
00:15:50.280 And there's a fascinating poll that they keep track of every day on the CBC, Ezra, where they are making seat projections.
00:15:57.040 They show the NDP winning the popular vote, the PCs winning a majority government,
00:16:03.460 and a possibility of the Liberals being decimated down below party status.
00:16:08.280 Oh, my God.
00:16:09.280 Well, I'm very pleased to hear that the fortunes of the Liberals are so dismal, but I am terrified of the prospect of another sort of an anybody but the above choosing the NDP.
00:16:21.360 That really scares me.
00:16:22.740 Jerry, can I play some clips?
00:16:24.260 Our producers have selected some clips from last night's debates.
00:16:27.060 We've got some longer ones, some shorter ones.
00:16:28.960 I'm going to throw them up there.
00:16:30.620 You watched this very close last night in real time.
00:16:33.540 Maybe you can give me your thoughts on a half a dozen clips, OK?
00:16:37.720 OK.
00:16:38.140 OK.
00:16:38.620 Let's start with an opening remark with Doug Ford attacking the NDP, which is interesting.
00:16:47.320 I mean, he knows where his challenger is.
00:16:49.340 As you say, the Liberals are not even in the game.
00:16:52.200 Take a look at this, and I'd like your thoughts after this one, Jerry.
00:16:54.980 Well, you think it's unaffordable now under the Liberals, and it's bad.
00:17:00.520 But it's going to get 10 times worse under the NDP.
00:17:04.600 We've seen this show before.
00:17:05.600 We've seen when the NDP were in power that 125,000 people lost their jobs.
00:17:13.000 Unemployment skyrocketed 28%.
00:17:15.560 Welfare rates went up.
00:17:17.500 We had the highest taxes in North America.
00:17:21.220 My friends, I'm going to reduce your personal income tax by 20%.
00:17:25.300 I'm going to reduce the gas price per liter by 10 cents a liter.
00:17:30.200 I'm going to reduce your hydro rates by 12%.
00:17:33.760 That is true savings.
00:17:36.600 Jerry, do you think that's connecting with people?
00:17:39.740 Well, I hope it's connecting with people.
00:17:41.640 I think people are asking Doug Ford how he's going to afford to do that, and that's a legitimate question.
00:17:47.000 But the first part, when he went after the NDP, saying it's going to get even worse, here's the evidence.
00:17:53.460 First of all, even the Premier took Andrea Horvath, the leader of the Ontario NDP, to task when the NDP have made the statement that they would not, under any circumstances, ever tell a public union they had to go back to work.
00:18:06.760 And, you know, the others were asking, well, then where's the power of government to do anything about a public union?
00:18:12.720 At some point, you have to actually care about the people on the other side of the equation, the taxpayers.
00:18:18.020 Andrea Horvath and the NDP say they would make Ontario a sanctuary province.
00:18:22.780 When the city of Toronto was already inundated by illegal immigrants, we're coming across irresponsibly, as you've reported so much on The Rebel, into Quebec. 1.00
00:18:33.160 And Justin Trudeau is saying, well, we'll just send them to Toronto.
00:18:36.140 And she's saying, fine, we'll take them.
00:18:38.640 Yeah, yeah, geez.
00:18:40.220 Well, you know, I want to play just one more clip from Doug Ford.
00:18:43.680 We're obviously Ford supporters here.
00:18:45.760 He's not perfect by any stretch, but I believe he's the guy who could save Ontario from what I fear is like a Detroit-like decline.
00:18:55.480 Detroit used to be the most wealthy industrial city in America, the highest wage.
00:18:59.880 It was the place.
00:19:01.460 And a generation later, it's one of the poorest cities.
00:19:04.480 I hate to be so depressing, but it can happen that an economic jewel, it becomes a wasteland.
00:19:11.220 And I know that sounds shocking, but tell that to Detroiters 50 years ago.
00:19:17.580 One of the things that really animated the conservative leadership campaign was the carbon tax.
00:19:22.440 Let me play for you a clip from Doug Ford on the carbon tax.
00:19:25.100 Jerry, I'd love your thoughts on this.
00:19:26.860 The people that are most vulnerable are the low-income people that get hurt.
00:19:30.700 Look, when they put the carbon tax, the carbon tax jacks up the gas price, the worst tax ever, jacks up the gas prices,
00:19:39.120 but jacks up every single item you buy in the store, and it does nothing for the environment.
00:19:46.040 They believe in high taxes.
00:19:47.400 I believe in empowering the people, not empowering the government.
00:19:50.520 The people can spend their money a lot wiser than the government can.
00:19:55.200 That's the difference between the NDP, the liberals, and the PCs.
00:20:01.280 Not really a direct attack on the concept of a carbon tax.
00:20:04.740 I don't know.
00:20:05.140 I'm excited by opposing the carbon tax because I think it's something all the fancy, elite, environmentalists support, but no severely normal person does.
00:20:12.860 I don't know.
00:20:13.420 I feel like he wasn't as on fire on that as he should have been.
00:20:16.400 What's your take?
00:20:18.120 Well, it was one of the questions that was asked by somebody in the audience who first challenged him, do you believe in global warming?
00:20:24.100 And an important preface to this, Ezra, is that Doug Ford said to the person who asked the question,
00:20:29.680 not only do I believe in global warming, I believe in man-made global warming, but I don't believe in the carbon tax.
00:20:35.380 It isn't going to do anything other than just take money out of people's pockets.
00:20:38.620 I mean, you heard what he had to say about it there, that the important thing was, let's not panic ourselves into doing the wrong thing.
00:20:47.880 You know, Jason Kenney, believe it or not, is taking the same line, the would-be premier of Alberta.
00:20:52.460 I think Jason Kenney's going to win.
00:20:53.900 He's saying, I'm not even going to engage on the science.
00:20:56.260 I think that's a mistake, but these guys, they don't want to get bogged down there.
00:21:00.700 They would prefer the fight over the carbon tax as opposed to, you know, this ethereal debate about global warming.
00:21:06.180 Do you think that-
00:21:07.620 I think, Ezra, sorry, I think that there's, I understand why they're doing that.
00:21:12.080 And they're saying people might listen a little more if we actually go after this and demonstrate to people that the carbon tax won't do what they hope it will.
00:21:20.780 Laurie Goldstein of the Toronto Sun has done many, many, many fabulous columns on this.
00:21:25.980 You can, I think you can win on the economics and the science of the ineffectiveness of a carbon tax.
00:21:32.980 Yeah. I want to talk a little bit more about the NDP because, of course, Andrea Horvath, I think this is her third campaign, if I'm not mistaken, as leader.
00:21:40.400 And normally opposition leaders don't get that many cracks at it.
00:21:43.760 But I mean, I'm a fairly new Ontarian, as you know, Jerry, but I'm sort of comfortable with her as a person.
00:21:49.440 I mean, ideologically, I am totally opposed to the NDP.
00:21:52.280 But what I detect might happen is that people say, oh, yeah, her, she seems nice enough.
00:21:57.200 She seems friendly enough.
00:21:59.520 Doug Ford, I don't like for this reason.
00:22:01.320 Kathleen Wynne, I don't like for that reason.
00:22:03.100 I'll go for the third choice.
00:22:04.660 And I feel like that's what happened in Alberta.
00:22:07.140 Let me show you sort of a mashup of Andrea Horvath really trying to get some punches in. 1.00
00:22:12.080 You tell me how you think this went over.
00:22:14.200 Did this show a level of confidence that voters will like?
00:22:17.280 Or do you think this might have taken the shine off Andrea Horvath?
00:22:19.500 Take a look.
00:22:20.480 So their plan's out the window.
00:22:22.400 Mr. Ford, not true.
00:22:23.300 Their plan is actually out the window.
00:22:25.160 You made a $7 billion mistake.
00:22:27.060 And the liberals are cooking the books.
00:22:28.580 Mr. Ford, in fact, it wasn't that amount of money.
00:22:33.220 Okay, stand by.
00:22:34.420 Your child care plan will actually create long wait lists.
00:22:40.540 Your plan has people paying $2,000 a month for child care in Toronto.
00:22:45.640 You are wrong, Mr. Ford.
00:22:46.920 You're spending $30, $40, $50 billion.
00:22:49.120 Where is your money coming from?
00:22:51.920 So she was doing a lot of interrupting.
00:22:53.780 I mean, I know that's not a substantive reason to vote for someone or not.
00:22:56.960 But these things sometimes matter.
00:22:58.760 It gives people a certain feeling.
00:23:00.220 Do you think she came across as a tough cookie who's going to hold Doug Ford to account? 0.74
00:23:04.380 Or do you think she came across as a...
00:23:06.040 How do you think that went for her?
00:23:07.120 I tell you, it didn't actually look that bad to me.
00:23:09.760 If I was a New Democrat, I would have been probably cheering her. 0.97
00:23:13.440 Well, maybe.
00:23:14.340 But it's not just New Democrat.
00:23:16.480 She has to win over at this point.
00:23:18.220 I think she finds herself in this amazing position where she could theoretically be premier. 0.97
00:23:22.420 I don't think that the NDP have thought about that for quite a long time, which I'll get to in just a second because it gives them another problem.
00:23:27.800 But I thought she seemed incredibly rude. 1.00
00:23:30.480 But then I'm not predisposed to support the NDP anyway.
00:23:34.120 I think if it were flipped around and Doug Ford was interrupting the woman as rudely as she did for 90 minutes last night, that would have been the headline this morning.
00:23:42.500 But that's the double standard, and I think that Ford understood it and played the game well in that regard.
00:23:48.620 What I meant by the other comment, as I'm going on a bit of a tangent here, but I would say to anybody who has decided, oh, that Andrew Horvath seems so nice.
00:23:56.560 Oh, I don't like that, Doug Ford.
00:23:58.540 We're done with the liberals, so maybe the NDP are our choice.
00:24:02.020 Look, the NDP may have some good, intelligent, smart people who could lead a government on their roster.
00:24:07.300 But because they didn't really properly vet a lot of their people, not realizing perhaps that they'd be in this position, you need to look at the particular NDP candidate in your writing.
00:24:16.640 Because some of them are just anti-Canadian, way out there, fringe, loopy people.
00:24:22.740 I mean, seriously, loopy people, Ezra.
00:24:24.760 Yeah, that reminds me of the Alberta NDP.
00:24:27.720 They were just putting names down on paper because they thought they were going to be sacrificial lands.
00:24:32.500 Jerry, you've been very generous with your time.
00:24:34.060 Can I play just two more short clips?
00:24:35.580 One is exactly what you're talking about.
00:24:37.400 There was one of these NDP candidates who, I know this sounds crazy, was posting to social media Hitler memes, as in Adolf Hitler.
00:24:47.420 And the NDP didn't get rid of the candidate.
00:24:49.780 Here, take a quick look.
00:24:50.620 I want to say straight up that any memes that had anything to do with Hitler is absolutely abhorrent.
00:24:58.080 And it's something that I absolutely reject completely.
00:25:02.580 But Mr. Ford's tabloid mudslinging against my candidates only foments divisiveness and hatred.
00:25:12.480 And it has to stop.
00:25:14.100 It's the wrong thing to do.
00:25:15.540 I tell you, that's quite a move there, Jerry, to have a candidate posting Hitler memes and to call the other guy hateful and divisive.
00:25:24.400 But I think she's getting away with it.
00:25:26.320 I don't know.
00:25:26.840 Well, you know, I hope not, because here's the problem.
00:25:31.120 She said last night, you heard it on the clip, that she just has no tolerance for that. 1.00
00:25:35.160 Well, I'll give credit to journalist Robin Urbach, who tweeted out right after that.
00:25:39.320 She says she has no tolerance for it, but she seems to be tolerating the candidate who actually put the meme out.
00:25:45.080 She's not dumping the candidate.
00:25:46.640 And by the way, we discussed this this morning on my radio show, and I brought up that point.
00:25:51.200 And one of the people said, well, it's too late, because if you dump that candidate, you've got nobody to replace her.
00:25:56.900 At this point, if people start giving the thumbs up to Hitler, take the hit and have no candidate in that writing, if that's what it takes.
00:26:04.020 Show some character, Andrea Horvath.
00:26:06.060 Yeah.
00:26:06.520 I mean, if you're not going to get rid of someone for praising Hitler, I mean, that's pretty low standards.
00:26:12.620 Now, we've really ignored Kathleen Wynne in this whole discussion, Jerry, because the polls are so daunting for her. 0.98
00:26:18.240 But let me show you, she took sort of a defiant stance, and she said, I'm not sorry.
00:26:23.800 I'm not sorry if you don't like me.
00:26:25.060 Here, let me play a clip of that, and then I'll let you go, because you're very generous with your time.
00:26:28.540 But take a look at this.
00:26:29.620 So here's what I want to say about the last five years.
00:26:33.480 Sorry, not sorry.
00:26:36.140 I'm really genuinely sorry that more people don't like me.
00:26:40.900 But I am not sorry about all of the things that we're doing in Ontario to make life better.
00:26:47.100 I mean, I guess she's embracing it, Jerry.
00:26:51.840 She knows that, you know, her personal approval is very low.
00:26:54.660 Her name's not on the campaign signs.
00:26:56.800 She's not even appearing in all her ads.
00:26:58.960 But maybe she's embracing it, saying, I don't care what you think about me.
00:27:02.740 It's what I've done that counts.
00:27:04.300 Again, I mean, I don't want to sound sympathetic to someone who I disagree with on everything.
00:27:08.240 But that's not a bad line to me.
00:27:09.940 Do you disagree, Jerry?
00:27:10.960 I do disagree, because she has it backward.
00:27:14.760 I actually think that, maybe you and I notwithstanding, I think most people actually don't dislike her.
00:27:20.340 I think they actually like her.
00:27:21.440 I think she's gotten away with a tremendous amount because they actually like her.
00:27:24.900 She's very good at that.
00:27:26.940 What people have finally decided is they don't like her policies.
00:27:30.220 They don't like what she's done to this province. 0.65
00:27:32.240 Not for this province, to this province.
00:27:34.500 I think people have finally figured that out.
00:27:36.400 So once again, she doesn't really actually understand the people of Ontario properly.
00:27:40.060 Well, Jerry, you have your finger on the pulse of Ontario better than just about anyone.
00:27:44.700 I mean, every single day you interact with so many Ontarians on your show, News Talk 1010, Jerry Agar's show.
00:27:51.680 I believe you have a pulse of this debate and the pulse of this campaign.
00:27:56.240 And you've given me a little bit of hope when you point to the fact that if you just look at raw numbers, the NDP looks strong.
00:28:02.200 But if you look at the distribution geographically, riding by riding, it's still hopeful for Ford.
00:28:07.260 I sure hope so, because by God, I've watched what happens in Alberta.
00:28:10.720 I don't want it to be replayed here.
00:28:12.220 Jerry, last word to you.
00:28:14.980 Well, I think that that's the strongest thing that I want to tell people to repeat here is if you are inclined to vote NDP, take a look at what the NDP is offering you.
00:28:24.440 Because if you end up with a person who has accused the Canadian military of slaughtering women, children and innocents, you might not be happy with the government you get.
00:28:35.720 Yeah.
00:28:35.920 And that sanctuary city point that you mentioned earlier, it is so insane.
00:28:39.580 But I think they mean it.
00:28:40.880 Jerry, it's great to see you again.
00:28:41.780 Thanks for coming back on the show.
00:28:43.140 You too.
00:28:43.900 Thank you.
00:28:44.340 There you go, our friend Jerry Agar from News Talk 1010, the Jerry Agar Show.
00:28:48.420 You know, I'm so glad to talk with him, because, I mean, I pay attention to the Ontario campaign.
00:28:52.520 I'm an Ontarian now, transplanted here, I guess, about five years.
00:28:55.920 But I don't have the intimate knowledge of all the wrinkles like our friend Jerry does.
00:29:01.060 I'm glad he's got a little bit of hope left.
00:29:02.500 I'm getting nervous.
00:29:03.220 I mean, Doug Ford's burnt up a 20-point lead.
00:29:05.900 I hope he can salvage it.
00:29:07.440 Stay with us.
00:29:08.060 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:29:14.340 One of the weirdest things about Rachel Notley's government is how many of the senior staffers
00:29:25.160 are from outside the province of Alberta.
00:29:27.820 I recall when Rachel Notley first took office there, I think 12 cabinet ministers.
00:29:31.820 My memory serves, I think only two of them had chiefs of staff from Alberta.
00:29:37.760 Imagine that 10 out of 12 of the most important departments and ministries in the province of Alberta
00:29:43.300 were run by hired mercenaries from outside the province's borders, including Rachel Notley's
00:29:51.040 own premier's office.
00:29:51.880 The chief of staff was a lawyer from Toronto who was with an actor's union.
00:29:59.280 He was a labor organizer from Toronto in a province of, what, four and a half million people.
00:30:03.680 Was there not a single person in the province who was better suited to run her office than him?
00:30:10.400 I mean, there's not a ton of socialists in Alberta, but don't tell me you couldn't find
00:30:15.060 one Albertan who wanted to serve his or her province, even if they weren't a dyed-in-the-wool
00:30:22.160 socialist who would just say, in the interest of patriotism and success, I will go help Premier
00:30:27.840 Notley.
00:30:28.720 10 out of 12 were, I'm not going to say foreign because they were Canadian, but they were the
00:30:34.140 leftovers, the losers, actually, from failed NDP campaigns in Toronto, in Vancouver, in
00:30:42.960 B.C.
00:30:43.900 All the losers in the NDP came to Alberta to get free jobs.
00:30:48.260 And one of those losers is named John Heaney.
00:30:52.260 And joining us now to talk about who John Heaney is and how he's bringing his loser-ness
00:30:56.160 to Alberta.
00:30:56.740 There's a friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, our Alberta bureau chief.
00:30:59.340 Sheila, do I have my stats right about all those out of, it would just be so weird.
00:31:02.820 Imagine if 10 out of 12 chiefs of staff in Quebec were from, like, Calgary.
00:31:07.880 Or imagine if 10 out of 12 chiefs of staff to the B.C. government came from, like, Newfoundland.
00:31:13.840 People would say, yeah, good people, but, you know, shouldn't we represent our own province
00:31:18.480 rather than having, like, a colonial governor?
00:31:20.920 Like, it's weird.
00:31:23.600 It is weird.
00:31:24.600 And this story with John Heaney is even weirder.
00:31:27.700 Because you mentioned Brian Topp there, so Toronto-based socialist who came to be Rachel
00:31:33.100 Notley's chief of staff.
00:31:34.500 When Brian Topp left, then John Heaney came on the scene.
00:31:38.580 And John Heaney is from B.C.
00:31:41.760 He worked for the NDP there.
00:31:43.500 Actually, he's known as a close friend of Premier John Horgan.
00:31:47.760 He was John Horgan's chief of staff when John Horgan was sitting as the leader of the opposition.
00:31:53.360 And he was also John Horgan's former business partner in his lobbying firm.
00:31:58.740 Now, John Heaney was our Rachel Notley's chief of staff.
00:32:03.040 And then he sort of left suddenly last August, saying that he had to go back to B.C.
00:32:08.800 because he wanted to spend more time with his family.
00:32:12.160 Well, the sordid tale goes on that John Heaney only left for two months.
00:32:17.980 He was back already working in Alberta in October of 2017.
00:32:22.580 So he wanted to see his family, but not any longer than two months.
00:32:25.940 And then he came right back here.
00:32:29.060 And while he was working for the Alberta government, he was also actively lobbying in British Columbia.
00:32:36.280 He was working as a registered lobbyist in British Columbia, lobbying the NDP government there while on the payroll in Alberta.
00:32:44.360 And even sneakier and slimier, Rachel Notley hid his employment from the population of Alberta. 0.97
00:32:52.260 He was not listed as a government worker on our government employee website.
00:32:58.900 He wasn't on there at all.
00:33:01.120 And he was only confirmed, finally, by the energy minister's spokesperson to have been working in Alberta at the beginning of May.
00:33:10.120 And it was confirmed that he was actually rehired back in October of last year.
00:33:14.860 How does that happen?
00:33:16.780 I mean, to be a chief of staff or to be a senior staffer for a government, but you have a gig on the side that is political?
00:33:25.760 Like, I guess if you had like a local bakery or something, I don't think there would be a problem.
00:33:32.020 But if your business is lobbying the B.C. government for private clients while representing the Alberta government, which has a big feud with the B.C. government, that you're lobbying for private clients.
00:33:48.420 How is that even legal, let alone how did that pass anyone's gut check for being ethical?
00:33:55.480 And the fact that you say they hid it, obviously, it didn't pass their gut check, but they said, well, you know, we all got to get paid while we can because we're all going to be fired in a year and a half.
00:34:06.200 This sounds crazy.
00:34:10.300 It gets crazier, Ezra, because there's another level to this story.
00:34:14.460 This isn't the first time that John Heaney has done this.
00:34:17.840 In 2007, he was a lawyer who was retained by the NDP in B.C.
00:34:26.660 And so he was working for the NDP as a lawyer when they were sitting in opposition.
00:34:31.760 And he was also, again, a registered lobbyist in British Columbia.
00:34:36.940 Now, those two things are not in contravention to the law.
00:34:39.780 What happened to end up in contravention of the law in 2007 was that John Heaney did what he always does and tries to line his pockets twice.
00:34:49.000 And he lobbied the NDP opposition critic on behalf of his client, which was a generic drug manufacturer.
00:34:58.460 He lobbied Adrian Dix, who happened to be the NDP health critic.
00:35:02.880 So he's working for the NDP, taking money for them and then sort of peddling his influence to his clients as a lobbyist and then lobbying the NDP health critic.
00:35:14.960 So this is something that he's always done.
00:35:17.060 It's something that Rachel Notley has had to have known that he was that he's done in the past.
00:35:22.280 And she hid his employment from the Alberta people because she knew he was doing this again.
00:35:27.840 And I know she knew he was doing this again because Rachel Notley's spokesperson, Cheryl Oates, admitted that they knew he was doing it, but it was fine because he has an exemption.
00:35:40.300 I got to tell you, that just sounds crooked.
00:35:42.580 I mean, what you said before that he was a lawyer for the NDP.
00:35:46.340 So he so I mean, I used to work as a lawyer a long time ago.
00:35:49.860 You have a loyalty to your client and you have to disclose things and your interests are to your client.
00:35:56.120 And for him at the same time to lobby his client on behalf of someone else paying him, that would be that that feels like he was being paid by both sides of a deal.
00:36:06.480 That is so not kosher.
00:36:08.700 And the fact that he's still that he's being paid by someone to lobby the B.C. government while he's being paid by the Alberta government.
00:36:16.660 This I'm sorry, I don't like saying the word crooked because crooked really implies you're breaking some rules.
00:36:22.120 But this sounds crooked, crooked, crooked.
00:36:25.740 I guess in that way, Sheila, he's a perfect fit for the NDP.
00:36:30.160 He really is.
00:36:31.460 And, you know, just by nature of Rachel Notley hiding his employment from the public, she knows that this wouldn't pass the smell test either.
00:36:39.160 But that's not even where John Heaney's troubles end.
00:36:42.360 And in November of 2017, an investigation was opened by the privacy commissioner into something that he had done in October 20 or in October of 2016.
00:36:54.420 So like a year prior, he was found to have been meddled in meddling in freedom of information requests.
00:37:02.360 He asked Service Alberta, according to an email released by the UCP, he asked Service Alberta to change the information that they would be releasing in these freedom of information requests.
00:37:12.380 So when the news broke that John Heaney was under investigation for things that he had done during the time that he had worked in the premier's office, he was already working back at the government.
00:37:26.220 But none of the media knew.
00:37:28.280 And the Alberta government was answering questions about John Heaney as though he was no longer employed with them.
00:37:34.800 But he was.
00:37:35.940 And they were just misleading everybody from start to finish.
00:37:38.340 Sheila, you called their number two years ago in your number one bestselling book called TheDestroyers.ca.
00:37:43.800 By the way, that book is still available.
00:37:45.800 I went to the, I was just on the website the other day, TheDestroyers.ca.
00:37:50.760 It was ahead of its time, and I regret that because it was a premonition.
00:37:55.380 It was like, you know, that mythical character Cassandra warning everybody, warning, warning, warning, and no one listened.
00:38:02.620 But they're listening now, aren't they?
00:38:05.080 This NDP has brought Alberta to its knees.
00:38:08.260 I'm counting the days till they're thrown into the dustbin of history.
00:38:12.880 I cannot wait until they're relegated to the fringe party status that they so rightly deserve.
00:38:19.060 I think that John Heaney might deserve some extra sanctions.
00:38:21.680 I truly believe his conduct needs to be investigated because I think it goes beyond bad taste and bad judgment.
00:38:27.220 I think it goes to breaking rules.
00:38:29.920 I won't say more until I have proof that's of a more criminal nature.
00:38:33.180 Sheila, great to see you.
00:38:35.020 Thanks for bringing us the facts.
00:38:37.440 Thanks, Ezra.
00:38:38.260 All right.
00:38:39.140 What do you think of that, eh?
00:38:40.340 Holy cow. 0.89
00:38:41.840 Sheila Gunn-Reed, our Alberta Bureau Chief.
00:38:43.660 Stay with us.
00:38:44.400 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:38:45.120 Hey, welcome back.
00:38:56.880 On my monologue Friday about Tommy Robinson, Carol writes,
00:38:59.600 Thank you, Carol.
00:39:11.500 The five Ps that Daniel Pipes described are the police, the prosecutors, the press, the politicians, and the professors.
00:39:19.760 And sometimes Daniel Pipes adds the priests.
00:39:22.860 Yeah, and this absolutely, absolutely is part of it.
00:39:26.500 The official people are not on our side anymore.
00:39:29.560 James writes,
00:39:30.320 How can this be possible?
00:39:31.360 It goes against everything we know as a Western democracy.
00:39:33.700 What happens to the right to defend yourself in court?
00:39:36.040 The right to have your own lawyer, innocent until proven guilty.
00:39:38.500 This is truly scary.
00:39:40.140 Well, that's the thing.
00:39:41.080 I remember last time when they raided Tommy's home at 4 a.m.
00:39:43.560 I was shocked by that.
00:39:44.520 I was shocked by how quick it went.
00:39:46.500 But we were able to muster lawyers to get Tommy home that night.
00:39:49.700 And we were able to give our lawyers a few weeks to prepare.
00:39:52.560 That didn't happen here at all.
00:39:53.960 And that is wrong.
00:39:56.040 Paul writes,
00:39:57.260 This is now the normal in Soviet Britain. 0.99
00:39:58.860 They protect pedophiles and sexual predators and imprison those who call them out.
00:40:02.720 The rule of law exists at the whim of the political class.
00:40:05.660 Yes, and I know I've talked about the classism in the U.K. before.
00:40:08.580 And you know what?
00:40:09.260 Here in North America, we are blessedly free of classism.
00:40:13.360 I mean, people don't look down on you if you are a rags to riches story.
00:40:18.260 And that's sort of the American dream.
00:40:19.960 And I think it's a bit of the Canadian dream, too.
00:40:21.560 So many people come here, low class, and they work hard and they make their way up.
00:40:26.180 And no one says, you can't do that.
00:40:28.620 You're nouveau riche.
00:40:29.600 Like, there's none of that stratified sedimentary system in the U.K.
00:40:33.660 I mean, in Canada, people almost, I mean, it's two ways.
00:40:38.080 If someone started poor and made their way up, I think they earn the respect of people, don't they?
00:40:42.220 At least that's my observation.
00:40:44.040 And if someone really made it, I think a lot of people say, wow, I want to do that, too.
00:40:48.440 Like, there's not a hatred of wealth by working classes, I don't think, generally, other than the NDP.
00:40:54.640 And I don't think there's a despise and a contempt for people who start off in working classes.
00:40:59.720 So I think there's a real mobility.
00:41:01.040 I really believe that in Canada.
00:41:02.280 Don't you?
00:41:02.680 It's not that way in the U.K.
00:41:05.520 And it was shocking to me.
00:41:06.380 That's one of the things it took me a year to learn with Tommy, is that the people who are the victims of these rape gangs, of these predators,
00:41:16.140 they are, to quote Morrissey, they are nobody's nothings.
00:41:19.160 They are poor, white, working class girls that no one gives a damn about. 1.00
00:41:23.240 They don't have friends in Parliament, don't have rich lawyers, don't have friends in the media.
00:41:27.000 They're not connected.
00:41:28.900 And so no one cares.
00:41:30.700 What they care more about is, oh, will I be called a racist if I do anything?
00:41:34.560 That is what Tommy stood athwart.
00:41:37.240 And that is why I think he had so much courage.
00:41:40.140 His family doesn't want our help for their personal affairs right now.
00:41:42.760 That's fine.
00:41:43.420 We're going to do this gag order, letusreport.com project, and hopefully we'll have some success there.
00:41:48.620 I'm going to keep you posted on this story.
00:41:50.300 I'm not going to do my monologue every single day about it.
00:41:52.500 But I don't know if you know, but at 12 noon every day, I do a live chat on YouTube.
00:41:56.000 You're welcome to join if you're free, 12 noon Eastern Time.
00:41:59.100 That's 9 a.m. Pacific, 10 a.m. Mountain Time.
00:42:01.680 That's 5 p.m. in the UK.
00:42:05.100 So I did that on Tommy Robinson today.
00:42:07.080 I'm going to do that again tomorrow because there'll be more to report.
00:42:09.620 So if you want more on Tommy, I'll give you a little bit in the evenings.
00:42:12.200 But I don't want to just be Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.
00:42:14.160 So I'll do more at 12 noon if you have the time tomorrow.
00:42:18.040 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.
00:42:22.800 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:42:26.000 And keep fighting for freedom.