Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show May 29 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, in the worst business deal in Canadian history,

00:00:03.040 Justin Trudeau pays $4.5 billion for the Kinder Morgan pipeline.

00:00:06.960 The one that's already built, not the one that won't be built.

00:00:10.660 It's May 29th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:19.500 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:23.320 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:26.900 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:30.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:00:33.980 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:40.760 Justin Trudeau just offered $4.5 billion to buy a pipeline.

00:00:45.360 Not the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion project,

00:00:50.280 but the existing Trans Mountain pipeline,

00:00:53.300 the one that's been happily pumping away for more than half a century.

00:00:56.660 He just offered to buy it for $4.5 billion.

00:00:59.880 So he could then offer to buy the $7.4 billion expansion project on top of it,

00:01:08.020 and then offer to pay on top of that for any losses coming from political litigation and delay.

00:01:15.820 I think he just promised, really, to give about $20 billion

00:01:19.560 to a Texas pipeline company.

00:01:23.080 I think that's what he did.

00:01:24.240 That's certainly the way the stock market took things.

00:01:27.460 Kinder Morgan shares jumped today on the news.

00:01:31.600 They were pretty excited.

00:01:33.360 Give me $20 billion, and I'll jump for you, too.

00:01:37.060 Here's Justin Trudeau's finance minister, Bill Morneau, with the fuzzy details.

00:01:42.240 The federal government has reached an agreement with Kinder Morgan to purchase the existing Trans Mountain pipeline

00:01:49.180 and the infrastructure related to the Trans Mountain expansion project.

00:01:54.760 Right, but the existing Trans Mountain pipeline is not a problem, is it?

00:01:58.700 It's working, but we just bought it.

00:02:03.600 I'm sure there's nothing that could go wrong.

00:02:06.640 A Trudeau government nationalizing oil infrastructure in pressure cooker deals done behind closed doors.

00:02:12.040 I'm sure they didn't get fleeced.

00:02:15.260 Now, if I'm reading this old securities filing correctly, Kinder Morgan paid $377 million U.S.

00:02:23.780 for the original Trans Mountain pipeline when they acquired it in 2007.

00:02:30.140 And Trudeau just offered them $4.5 billion.

00:02:34.120 Nice.

00:02:34.360 By the way, I see the Royal Bank values it today at about $2.5 billion, so we overpaid by double.

00:02:41.240 Here's more of Bill Morneau.

00:02:42.400 This $4.5 billion investment represents a fair price for Canadians and for shareholders of the company

00:02:50.360 and will allow the project to proceed under the ownership of a crown corporation.

00:02:56.080 The core assets required to build the Trans Mountain expansion project have significant commercial value.

00:03:02.200 And this transaction represents a sound investment opportunity.

00:03:07.900 No, no.

00:03:09.840 See, if Canadians wanted to buy the existing pipeline, they could.

00:03:13.280 It's for sale every single day, actually, on the stock exchange.

00:03:17.980 The company was starting to drag on the stock market because its proposed expansion project was being blocked,

00:03:23.580 partly by the B.C. government slow-walking the thing, partly by the nuisance suits by every local activist.

00:03:28.260 But those were all being shot down by the courts, those lawsuits, all of them.

00:03:32.820 It was the lack of political commitment by Justin Trudeau to stare down his old environmentalist buddies in B.C.,

00:03:38.420 more specifically, Gerald Butts, Trudeau's principal secretary, refusing to stare down his fellow environmentalists,

00:03:45.300 some of whom he literally worked with before.

00:03:48.560 That's what's been stopping this.

00:03:49.880 That's what made Kinder Morgan unattractive on the stock market.

00:03:55.160 So can you tell me, how does selling the existing pipeline, the one that's been there for decades,

00:04:01.720 how does selling that to the government, how does the government buying that,

00:04:04.760 how does that improve the prospects of getting the expansion part built?

00:04:09.380 How is this sweetheart deal in the interest of taxpayers at all?

00:04:13.920 How is it in the interest of Alberta oil companies?

00:04:16.440 Here, watch some more.

00:04:17.100 The agreement, which is expected to close this August, was approved by Cabinet this morning

00:04:22.680 and is now subject to approval by Kinder Morgan shareholders.

00:04:28.940 Really, so Kinder Morgan shareholders get to vote on it, but you or I don't.

00:04:32.260 I wish Canadian taxpayers were even allowed to see the details of this deal.

00:04:36.860 Maybe we can.

00:04:37.540 I guess maybe we have to buy a share in Kinder Morgan before we're told about the government deal.

00:04:41.980 So far, it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:04:43.900 To recap, the existing pipe was just bought by Trudeau with your money for $4.5 billion.

00:04:50.900 Kinder Morgan was planning to spend another $7.4 billion to expand that existing pipeline, to double it, really.

00:04:59.800 So Trudeau just bought the existing first pipeline from Kinder Morgan.

00:05:03.820 Presumably, he now is going to expand it.

00:05:06.720 That's what this whole thing is about.

00:05:08.100 That's why we're doing this, right?

00:05:09.060 And so he's going to put in $7.4 billion more.

00:05:14.720 He doesn't quite say.

00:05:16.920 And that's what it would cost to build.

00:05:18.740 But do you think Trudeau can build a pipeline as well as a private pipeline company can on time, on budget?

00:05:29.440 Really?

00:05:30.180 I mean, let's pretend that he can just for a second.

00:05:33.300 But where's that money going to come from to buy the pipe, to hire the workers?

00:05:37.200 Where's it going to come from?

00:05:37.940 Next clip.

00:05:39.060 The province of Alberta will also support the project, providing an emergency fund for any unforeseen costs, if needed.

00:05:47.880 In return, Alberta will receive value commensurate with their contribution.

00:05:52.300 Oh, so what?

00:05:55.540 $7.4 billion from them?

00:05:58.400 How much?

00:05:59.620 Rachel Notley is insane with glee here. 0.66

00:06:02.400 My friends, today we take a major step forward for Albertans and for all Canadians.

00:06:08.360 The deal announced today puts people to work, building this pipeline right away and creating good jobs.

00:06:15.560 We worked with all Albertans to bring in the most comprehensive climate leadership plan on the continent, capping oil sands emissions, 0.91

00:06:23.520 phasing out harmful coal emissions, putting a price on carbon and attracting record investment in renewable energy here in the province of Alberta.

00:06:33.480 We have traveled the country, speaking to business leaders, workers, investors, environmentalists, academics, and more, building the case for why Canada needs new pipelines.

00:06:46.160 So how much is it going to cost?

00:06:50.160 Because I hear there's a lot of extra cash swilling around the Alberta government conference these days.

00:06:56.160 She's giddy about what?

00:06:59.400 About what?

00:07:00.780 That she's going to nationalize a pipeline or has to pay for Trudeau? 1.00

00:07:04.600 What's going on?

00:07:05.680 But anyway, so where's the rest of the money going to come from?

00:07:08.480 That's what I want to know.

00:07:09.820 To build the expansion.

00:07:10.840 Oh, and then to indemnify it against shakedowns.

00:07:14.080 That's what Moreno promised.

00:07:16.140 Shakedowns by people like Gerald Butts and his old friends.

00:07:20.060 But we do believe that the appropriate way for us to do that is to create that indemnity that effectively assures federal jurisdiction for a private sector proponent of the project.

00:07:33.260 Okay, so $4.5 billion for the existing pipeline.

00:07:36.480 Royal Bank of Canada says massively, massively overpaid.

00:07:40.400 $7.4 billion to build the second one.

00:07:42.620 That's if you think Trudeau is as good at building pipelines as pipeline companies.

00:07:45.560 So we're at $12 billion now, plus whatever extra costs are inflicted on this.

00:07:51.020 This is nuts.

00:07:52.700 But it's going to make money from the oil that goes through it or something?

00:07:58.680 Is that how this works?

00:07:59.700 Of course, a pipeline is effectively like an approach to move something along a toll.

00:08:08.220 So it's effectively a user pay approach, meaning that the oil companies will pay.

00:08:13.220 The investments that we made will be paid through the oil companies' payments to actually use the pipeline down the road.

00:08:19.760 We're buying the assets so we can move forward on that project expansion, which is, as I said, will create the value for Canadians.

00:08:27.580 Yeah, that's how a pipeline company gets paid.

00:08:29.900 It charges a toll for oil companies who ship their oil through it, a couple bucks a barrel or whatever.

00:08:34.980 But that only happens after it's built.

00:08:38.720 So who's going to front the $7.4 billion to build the pipeline?

00:08:44.360 Why aren't they saying?

00:08:46.420 Is the government going to lend the construction money to this?

00:08:50.840 Are we really at $12 billion already?

00:08:54.680 But you might notice something.

00:08:55.880 So far, it's just all about money, right?

00:08:58.520 And nothing here.

00:08:59.320 Not one thing actually addresses the problem that we have getting it built.

00:09:02.980 Bill, Kinder Morgan never asked for money.

00:09:06.120 They're no fools. 1.00

00:09:07.200 They'll take free money from some stupid trust fund rich kid. 1.00

00:09:11.880 And I have to separate which stupid trust fund rich kid I'm talking about. 1.00

00:09:15.680 Because Bill Murnow, of course, inherited a company from his dad and then married a billionaire. 0.98

00:09:19.980 So neither of these folks are actually pros at business.

00:09:23.540 But look, Kinder Morgan was never short of money.

00:09:26.660 They were just short of politicians willing to push illegal protesters out of the way.

00:09:29.740 They were willing to expedite court challenges.

00:09:33.400 And that's still not here.

00:09:36.680 Here's some questions that were put at the press conference in Ottawa today.

00:09:40.960 The British Columbia government is not the only opposition that you're going to face for this.

00:09:45.120 There's protesters that are planning to block the route, block construction.

00:09:48.100 What's the government planning to do to address those concerns and address the protests themselves?

00:09:51.460 We will recognize that Canadians have a right to express their point of view in a legal fashion.

00:09:59.460 And that will continue to be an important part of our democracy.

00:10:04.680 Yeah, we knew that.

00:10:05.780 But what will you do to get the pipeline built?

00:10:09.460 How are you going to address people who are blocking the actual construction?

00:10:13.780 What is the government planning to do?

00:10:15.020 Are you going to go to court to get injunctions against them?

00:10:17.400 What's the plan?

00:10:18.560 This isn't the first pipeline to be built in Canada.

00:10:21.560 The pipeline will move forward in consideration of all the appropriate security constraints

00:10:27.580 and the way to ensure that it gets done appropriately.

00:10:31.460 You keep saying those words, but you have an answer.

00:10:36.260 What are you going to do to get it built?

00:10:38.980 Bill Morneau says the federal government will exert its jurisdiction.

00:10:42.820 And that is what handing billions of dollars to a Texas company is about.

00:10:49.000 We're going to do what we've done this morning.

00:10:50.960 We're going to say that in exceptional situations where to get a project done,

00:10:54.940 we need to exert federal jurisdiction, we will.

00:10:57.840 We're going to assure that when there's a project that provides significant value

00:11:02.140 for the Canadian economy, a significant number of jobs,

00:11:06.860 we're going to assure that it can move forward.

00:11:08.900 And we're going to do that both in a way that treats the shareholders fairly,

00:11:12.680 as we did here, but also creates the value for the long term,

00:11:15.800 as we see this project will.

00:11:18.020 Boy, he blathers.

00:11:19.660 But he talked about jurisdiction.

00:11:21.240 I don't think he maybe understands what that word means.

00:11:23.700 See, the federal government has jurisdiction over any matters,

00:11:28.340 legislation, policy decisions, government stuff,

00:11:33.800 that is of a national or an international nature.

00:11:36.780 In our Constitution, which was written over 100 years ago,

00:11:40.040 it contemplates railroads, but that applies to pipelines as well.

00:11:44.200 So the federal government already has jurisdiction over pipelines.

00:11:47.880 That is not disputed.

00:11:48.900 That jurisdiction doesn't only apply to government-owned projects.

00:11:54.320 The Canadian government does not own the CP Rail Company or the CN Rail Company,

00:11:58.920 but it still has legal and constitutional jurisdiction over them.

00:12:03.440 Nothing has changed jurisdictionally by the liberals paying $4.5 or $12 or $20 billion

00:12:11.140 here for Kinder Morgan.

00:12:12.540 The Constitution is still the same.

00:12:14.300 The pipeline is still federally regulated,

00:12:16.260 no matter who owns the share certificates.

00:12:17.660 It's the same as yesterday. 0.99

00:12:20.860 Nothing's changed except we are all poorer now and maybe a little bit dumber. 0.95

00:12:26.640 And the liberals haven't said that they're going to do anything differently. 0.74

00:12:29.500 You saw he was asked to say what they're going to do differently,

00:12:32.540 and he didn't have an answer.

00:12:34.440 They've talked about money, but money was not the problem.

00:12:37.300 Kinder Morgan is very good at raising money.

00:12:39.180 So were all the other pipeline companies that begged to spend tens of billions in our country

00:12:43.520 and were told, no, the problem is getting it built.

00:12:46.000 And the liberals still have no clue.

00:12:51.080 Nothing today suggests this will move faster.

00:12:53.020 In fact, with government running a business, how can that not move slower?

00:12:57.560 It's going to move the speed of the post office.

00:13:00.200 But look, it's not management that's the problem.

00:13:04.280 It's not cash that's the problem.

00:13:06.320 It's that Gerald Butts and Justin Trudeau actually do not want to fight against BC environmentalists.

00:13:11.800 What this crazy 11th hour deal does is just buy them a little more time, I guess.

00:13:17.620 Since Kinder Morgan was going to walk away on Thursday, they said the end of May was their deadline.

00:13:21.840 So this $4.5 billion was just a way to buy the liberals some time.

00:13:27.000 I don't know, maybe to come up with an idea.

00:13:29.300 They've had years.

00:13:30.620 Kinder Morgan applied to build the Kinder Morgan expansion in 2013.

00:13:33.880 Their application was approved in 2016 by the National Energy Board, subject to 157 conditions, which they accepted.

00:13:42.680 And on November 29th, 2016, the Trudeau cabinet officially accepted this pipeline expansion.

00:13:49.800 They confirmed the National Energy Board's deal.

00:13:52.360 So it's been years.

00:13:55.600 Now, the environmental extremists, all of them paid by foreign entities, they never accepted it as a done deal.

00:13:59.500 Here's one environmental extremist, paid in part by foreign money, who said, it's not about 157 conditions.

00:14:05.200 It's not about conditions.

00:14:06.360 It's not about this route or that route.

00:14:08.720 He's just against oil pipelines because they're oil pipelines.

00:14:13.760 Truth be told, we don't think there ought to be a carbon-based energy industry by the middle of this century.

00:14:18.860 That's our policy in Canada, and it's our policy all over the world.

00:14:23.020 You can choose to fight this fight on locking us into a high-carbon economy for five decades.

00:14:29.880 And I think that's a very reasonable perspective to take.

00:14:33.920 In fact, it's one we do take.

00:14:36.440 So we don't think that – we think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.

00:14:45.600 So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline, because the real alternative is not an alternative route.

00:14:57.040 It's an alternative economy.

00:14:59.960 Of course, that's Gerald Butts, who back then was the president of the World Wildlife Fund.

00:15:03.580 He is now Justin Trudeau's principal secretary, widely regarded as the de facto prime minister, really.

00:15:08.880 Justin Trudeau took 56 vacations so far in his term.

00:15:12.260 I think Gerald Butts has taken zero.

00:15:14.000 Butts was talking about the Northern Gateway Pipeline in British Columbia, but the point's obviously the same.

00:15:19.560 He's against any pipelines, any oil sands projects.

00:15:22.260 He's never said a word that I've ever seen, though, against foreign oil imports to Canada, including from Saudi Arabia.

00:15:28.300 But he hates Alberta oil.

00:15:31.080 I think it's clear what's going on here.

00:15:34.040 It's Justin Trudeau spending $4.5 billion in a lifeline to Rachel Notley to get her re-elected in the spring of next year.

00:15:41.280 $4.5 billion from federal taxpayers, from him immediately, and what, $2 billion or so from Alberta taxpayers, is what I heard, from Notley.

00:15:48.460 So she can say, the pipeline will be built.

00:15:50.380 It will be built.

00:15:51.100 You see, we're taking steps, but it will not be built.

00:15:54.060 Just to say it's in hand, but it is not in hand.

00:15:56.700 And once Trudeau has his 2019 election, he'll call that $4.5 billion or $10 billion or $20 billion.

00:16:04.460 He'll call it just the cost of doing business the liberal way.

00:16:08.200 There are no steps today that will make it built that weren't there yesterday.

00:16:12.840 No actions to move it forward.

00:16:14.320 No constitutional actions.

00:16:15.600 No legal actions.

00:16:16.580 No legislative actions.

00:16:17.760 No police actions to clear away protesters.

00:16:19.800 No political actions to punish B.C.'s provincial government for its intransigence, like Trudeau is punishing the Saskatchewan government for not going along with its illegal carbon tax.

00:16:29.500 I'm going only on a few hours' worth of details.

00:16:32.100 We'll learn more.

00:16:33.060 I'd like to know as much as Kinder Morgan shareholders know, but, you know, I'm just a mere Canadian taxpayer.

00:16:38.020 But this really is the worst of all worlds.

00:16:40.200 I continue to believe that this pipeline will not actually be built.

00:16:45.200 But we'll all be on the hook for that failure now.

00:16:48.700 Stay with us for more.

00:16:49.800 Welcome back.

00:17:06.840 Well, one of our favorite people is Raheel Raza.

00:17:08.920 She joins me now.

00:17:09.740 Raheel, it's great to see you again.

00:17:10.820 It's been a long time.

00:17:11.780 Thank you.

00:17:12.120 Well, I mean, you are, I mean, I was going to introduce you officially.

00:17:15.340 It's with the Council of Muslims Facing Tomorrow. 1.00

00:17:17.660 But that's just one of about a dozen things you do.

00:17:19.940 And give our viewers an update.

00:17:21.100 Where have you been traveling?

00:17:22.240 What causes have you been championing in a month or two since we've seen you?

00:17:27.060 Well, you know, things are really troubling all over the world and also here in Canada.

00:17:31.440 So, dealing with all the issues that we are facing here, you know, the Iran problem, the fact

00:17:37.660 that, you know, our leaders are embracing the Islamists and the Islamists are growing from 0.81

00:17:42.320 strength to strength while all we do is complain and really not do much about it.

00:17:47.300 Internationally, I've been traveling on a new campaign by the Clarion Project, which is

00:17:51.480 a documentary that they're making called The Jihad Generation.

00:17:54.740 It's about youth radicalization and we are preparing with it a workshop component, which

00:18:01.700 is an educational component.

00:18:03.520 So, I've been speaking to teachers and counselors and parents and law enforcement to see how

00:18:09.580 we can put this out so that the people who are in charge can look for these signs.

00:18:15.260 Very interesting.

00:18:16.140 Now, where you say you've been traveling and the Clarion Project, we're familiar with

00:18:19.880 their work.

00:18:20.220 They're outstanding.

00:18:21.380 Is this in the UK?

00:18:22.880 Is this in Canada?

00:18:23.420 It'll be largely in the United States.

00:18:25.340 So, once the documentary is released, it'll be global, of course.

00:18:27.860 And the radicalization of the youth you refer to, is that in the West?

00:18:30.780 In North America.

00:18:31.680 In North America.

00:18:32.200 Yes.

00:18:32.240 And it's both Muslim and non-Muslim youth, as you know.

00:18:35.620 You know, those young people who have gone to fight the jihad with ISIS in Syria.

00:18:39.660 What is it that compels them?

00:18:41.280 What are the signs that if the parents and teachers saw these signs, they might have been

00:18:45.960 able to intervene before they were sucked into this?

00:18:49.160 You know, it's very much like drug gangs.

00:18:50.860 Yes.

00:18:51.140 They prey on those who are isolated and those who are alone, those who are angry.

00:18:56.140 So, we want to have some sort of help workshop that people can use.

00:19:02.060 Yeah.

00:19:02.320 You know, I often thought that it was a very powerful tool to recruit jihadists because, 0.66

00:19:08.460 I mean, when you look at the way ISIS ran itself, I'd like your thoughts on this.

00:19:13.060 I observed that, you know, if you're a young gangster in Paris, let's say, you're alienated

00:19:19.520 from the French society.

00:19:21.860 Maybe you have a gun or a weapon.

00:19:24.180 Maybe you are into drugs a little bit.

00:19:26.920 Maybe you're having problems getting a girlfriend.

00:19:29.260 And this gang can say, well, you like a gun?

00:19:31.580 How about drive a tank?

00:19:33.240 You like drugs?

00:19:34.120 Well, we'll give you drugs. 1.00

00:19:34.980 You want a girlfriend? 1.00

00:19:37.400 Well, we have raped slaves. 1.00

00:19:39.800 So, I thought, if these are marginal kids who are, and you hate the man, you hate the 0.99

00:19:45.300 West, well, come and be part of the jihad.

00:19:47.680 So, all the things that we find odious about ISIS can be a sales pitch to these disaffected 1.00

00:19:53.800 youth.

00:19:54.140 That's my theory.

00:19:54.920 Is that, do you agree?

00:19:55.980 Exactly what they do.

00:19:57.240 They troll the internet.

00:19:58.420 And very importantly, they look for kids who have anger in them against the administration.

00:20:02.940 And they play on that.

00:20:04.140 And also those who don't have family support.

00:20:06.520 And of course, you know, the family structure is not as it used to be.

00:20:09.660 So, there are thousands of kids out there who are lonely.

00:20:12.580 And they tell them that you'll be part of a family.

00:20:14.760 You'll be part of a cult.

00:20:15.900 And it's all done with the approval of their interpretation of the religion. 0.98

00:20:21.020 So, things that would be called bad at home, stealing, shooting, raping.

00:20:25.980 They're justified.

00:20:26.660 In ISIS, yes.

00:20:27.300 And so, they can feel like they're doing it as a blessing, not a curse.

00:20:31.500 They are told that when they pick up a gun and they either kill themselves as suicide bombers

00:20:36.440 or they kill someone else, that they're doing it for a larger cause.

00:20:39.400 And they're compelled to believe that they're going to do something that is going to change

00:20:44.080 the world, that is going to make the world a better place.

00:20:46.640 So, they are told that what they're doing is right.

00:20:48.740 It's justified.

00:20:50.020 And, you know, it's justified through the religion.

00:20:52.600 It's justified for them morally, ethically.

00:20:55.680 And it's just plain evil.

00:20:57.480 But the kids do fall into that trap, young people. 0.99

00:21:00.700 So, we are finding ways to create some reasonable intervention, what we call nonviolent extremism.

00:21:07.460 You know, tracking the ideology.

00:21:10.560 And that is a very difficult thing to do.

00:21:13.300 Yeah, that's very interesting.

00:21:14.600 I look forward to that film.

00:21:15.420 And Clarion, those are good people.

00:21:17.100 And we, I remember the video you did, I guess it would be two and a half years ago now with them.

00:21:23.880 Excellent, excellent work.

00:21:25.000 We're fans of theirs.

00:21:26.040 Let me shift gears a little bit because you had an essay that we published on The Rebel a couple of days ago

00:21:30.100 about Tommy Robinson.

00:21:31.580 You met Tommy in Switzerland.

00:21:33.780 He drove to meet you.

00:21:35.020 I really enjoyed that conversation.

00:21:37.700 And two of my friends meeting, I was excited.

00:21:40.020 Tell me a little bit your thoughts on Tommy.

00:21:42.100 And we don't have all the facts yet.

00:21:43.820 They just left the publication ban off his court case today.

00:21:47.680 So, we don't have the full transcript of what happened.

00:21:49.840 What are your thoughts based on what you have heard?

00:21:51.940 Well, it's very troubling.

00:21:53.140 It's troubling at so many levels, Ezra.

00:21:55.940 You know, you don't have to always agree with the person.

00:21:58.600 But this is a human being living in a democracy or a so-called democracy.

00:22:02.000 Last time I checked, the United Kingdom was a country where you had freedom of expression and freedom of speech.

00:22:07.160 And, you know, as I said, he has his rights to speak out and, you know, say whatever he wants.

00:22:15.200 And, as I said, you don't have to agree with him.

00:22:17.440 But when I met Tommy in Geneva, he drove 12 hours to come and meet me.

00:22:21.140 And the first thing I said when I met him, I said, you're so different from the image that people have of you.

00:22:25.740 And he laughed.

00:22:26.640 And he said, you know, that's the norm.

00:22:29.600 But he said, I work with Muslims.

00:22:31.240 My best friend is a Muslim.

00:22:32.660 I'll never forget him saying this.

00:22:34.120 He said, I was at his wedding. 0.98

00:22:36.040 And then, you know, I hear that he has been trying to uncover the story of the Muslim gang, the rape gangs. 1.00

00:22:43.980 Of course, they're never called Muslim because they're referred to as Asian or, you know, as Oriental. 0.95

00:22:50.600 And the fact that this has been covered up for so long is atrocious, is absolutely appalling.

00:22:57.220 It is inhuman.

00:22:58.040 And, you know, his arrest actually bodes such a tragic downward trend about freedom.

00:23:07.280 And that, too, in a country where another man by the name of Anjum Chaudhary, who is Satan personified, has just been released.

00:23:16.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:17.360 Anjum Chaudhary.

00:23:17.960 I remember interviewing him at the Sun News Network.

00:23:20.460 You know, sometimes when you do a mic check, you say, one, two, three, four, five.

00:23:24.100 We did a mic check with him.

00:23:26.000 And you know what he said?

00:23:26.880 He said, 9-11, 7-7.

00:23:29.440 That's the date of the bombings.

00:23:31.100 So he was like he was taunting even in trivialities like that.

00:23:35.880 If there was ever evil personified on Earth, as I say, Satan, that is Anjum Chaudhary. 0.99

00:23:41.140 Anjum Chaudhary has been freed.

00:23:43.220 And Tommy Robinson has been arrested.

00:23:45.000 And it's the way he's been arrested that, you know, as I said, as a mother, I find so troubling.

00:23:51.080 I mean, he's no different than my sons who have no boundaries, no barriers, say whatever they want.

00:23:56.420 And we are lucky yet to be living in a country where we still can do this.

00:24:00.120 But I don't know how long that is going to last if this trend continues in the West.

00:24:05.280 And, you know, we who love freedoms, we who love freedom of expression and freedom of press, we must speak out.

00:24:11.120 Well, I'm so glad that you met him when he was free and you had that moment to chat and get to know him just a little bit.

00:24:18.940 I hope you'll have a chance to meet him again.

00:24:20.280 I hope he'll get out of prison soon.

00:24:22.200 It's great to catch up with you.

00:24:23.600 I'm excited because it's already just a few days to the Rebel Live.

00:24:28.900 That's our big get together in Toronto.

00:24:31.060 I'm so glad you're coming.

00:24:33.600 Our invitation to speakers is whatever you want to say.

00:24:36.440 You talk about so many different things, anything of which our people would be fascinated on.

00:24:41.640 And I'll just turn to the camera for a second, folks.

00:24:43.320 If you don't have your ticket left, get it now.

00:24:45.520 Go to therebellive.com.

00:24:46.900 Raheel will be one of our various speakers there.

00:24:49.800 And Lindsay Shepard, who's sort of an acolyte of Jordan Peterson, she'll be there and some other great speakers.

00:24:56.700 Have you thought about what subject you're going to address or are you still sort of contemplating that?

00:25:00.220 Oh, I am addressing a very controversial title.

00:25:04.180 It's called WTS, but it's not what you think it is.

00:25:09.440 It's about where to find the solutions.

00:25:12.040 I want to talk about the fact that we know the problem.

00:25:15.600 We've known the problem for a long time, far too long.

00:25:18.440 What are we doing about the solutions?

00:25:20.260 And we have to work together to find solutions.

00:25:22.460 And we need to do that sooner rather than later, because Canada, as you know, is going down a very slippery slope with the Iran issue.

00:25:30.600 You know, we've got Iranian dissidents, you know, pulling their hair out about the fact that, you know,

00:25:36.380 this country in which the theocracy rules with an iron whip and where women are arrested for just uncovering their hair.

00:25:45.380 And, you know, here we've got warm, fuzzy relationships.

00:25:48.720 Trudeau's brother, Alexandre Trudeau, actually made a movie in cooperation with the Iran state agency.

00:25:58.220 The movie was called The New Great Game.

00:26:00.380 So Trudeau's brother, Alexandre, is very friendly with Iran.

00:26:04.500 Well, this is what we are looking at.

00:26:06.580 I mean, how can you be soft on those people who oppress their own citizens?

00:26:11.780 And especially for someone who holds himself out to be a great feminist.

00:26:14.600 Well, a feminist, you know, a champion of human rights. 0.99

00:26:18.600 None of these things are happening in Iran.

00:26:21.100 So and of course, you've got this monster M103, which hangs over our head like a sword.

00:26:27.880 How long will it be before I will not be able to say what I do?

00:26:32.680 And, you know, talking, coming back to the Tommy Robinson issue, I'm going in August to the United Kingdom to attend a rally to support the victims of these gang groups.

00:26:41.000 Oh, wow.

00:26:42.020 What's the date of that again?

00:26:42.860 It's August 20th and there is a rally.

00:26:45.440 It is being held by a group called Marias, which is Mothers Against Radical Islam.

00:26:49.740 And I am speaking there.

00:26:50.880 What city is that?

00:26:51.680 In London.

00:26:52.480 In London.

00:26:52.980 In London.

00:26:53.640 But I think, are they going to arrest me?

00:26:55.900 Because I'm going to speak about in support of the victims of these gang groups.

00:27:00.080 But I know the victims and I've met them.

00:27:02.480 You know what?

00:27:04.180 I hope and pray that wouldn't happen.

00:27:06.660 I don't think it would happen to you.

00:27:08.580 But it's no longer beyond the realm of the possible.

00:27:11.500 This is what this Tommy Robinson issue has done is it is no longer beyond the realm of what is possible and our freedoms are at stake.

00:27:21.240 So, if nothing else apart from not necessarily agreeing with each other, let's come together for Canadian values.

00:27:29.120 Let's come together for what Canada is known for, for the good that is in Canada and the bad that is being imported from abroad. 0.99

00:27:38.140 We need to get rid of that.

00:27:40.660 I remember once I said you were my favorite Canadian citizen.

00:27:44.300 Thank you.

00:27:44.660 And it is true. 0.71

00:27:45.880 And hearing you again is so encouraging.

00:27:47.900 You're tireless.

00:27:49.300 You spend so much time on a plane warning the whole world.

00:27:53.040 We're always grateful when you spend time in Canada because we need the help too.

00:27:56.480 Thank you.

00:27:56.640 And I'm thrilled that you're coming to the Rebel Live this weekend.

00:28:00.180 I look forward to your WTF.

00:28:01.940 And it meant a lot to me that you reached out and said, hey, I've got an essay about Tommy Robinson.

00:28:07.880 I was thrilled that we were able to get that up online right away.

00:28:10.300 For those of you who haven't read it yet, Raheel wrote an essay about her encounter with Tommy for the first time.

00:28:16.820 And it's worth all reading.

00:28:18.180 Great to see you.

00:28:18.820 Good luck.

00:28:19.140 Keep up the fight.

00:28:19.960 Stay safe and stay strong.

00:28:21.140 Thank you.

00:28:21.720 All right.

00:28:22.140 Stay with us.

00:28:22.680 More ahead on the Rebel.

00:28:31.940 Yes, we will run a little bit of a deficit for the first couple of years and we'll go back down to balance.

00:28:40.760 But in the meantime, we're going to fix what Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals broke.

00:28:44.620 We've got to make sure that families can get the prescription drugs they need.

00:28:48.400 They can get the dental care that they need.

00:28:50.040 That they can afford child care.

00:28:53.400 Hey, guys, that could be Ontario's next premier.

00:28:56.760 Andrea Horrath of the NDP saying, don't worry about it.

00:28:59.100 Just a few little deficits.

00:29:01.040 It's nothing to worry about.

00:29:02.880 They're little.

00:29:04.200 I've heard that before.

00:29:06.220 It doesn't give me any peace.

00:29:08.380 It reminds me a little bit of the Alberta NDP and reminds me a little bit of Justin Trudeau who told us that budgets balance themselves.

00:29:15.800 You just need to grow the economy from the heart out.

00:29:19.180 Well, joining us now is someone who takes a more sober-minded view about the nation's finances.

00:29:23.480 I'm talking about the Ontario Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:29:27.560 Her name is Christine Rangon and she joins us now.

00:29:29.840 Christine, great to see you.

00:29:31.040 Whenever I hear a politician talk about a little deficit, I hold on to my wallet.

00:29:35.240 Yeah, and you should because, you know, Justin Trudeau promised the exact same thing a few years ago.

00:29:43.960 And in his first year, I think the deficit was triple what he had promised it would be.

00:29:49.640 And then on the subsequent years, it's been averaging about double.

00:29:53.360 So I think you can probably expect the same thing from Andrea Horvath if she's elected.

00:30:00.540 And we certainly can expect it from Kathleen Wynne if she's re-elected. 1.00

00:30:04.420 After all, the deficit that she said she's running is actually, according to the Auditor General, about twice what she says it is.

00:30:12.560 So in both cases, when they say it's going to be small, you really need to look into what small means and try and figure out if they're telling the truth.

00:30:24.560 And usually, as we saw with Mr. Trudeau, it's not the truth.

00:30:28.100 Yeah, what's so amazing of the Ontario Auditor General is the bluntness of the language used to describe Kathleen Wynne.

00:30:36.320 I mean, listen, there's always a tension between an Auditor General and a politician.

00:30:40.320 A politician tries to stretch the facts and spin the language as far as possible.

00:30:45.100 But the Auditor General of Ontario has basically said, without using the word lying, I think it's the toughest rebuke of a sitting government that I can even think of.

00:30:58.400 Basically, the Auditor General said, you cannot believe Kathleen Wynne.

00:31:01.760 She's using dishonest accounting. 1.00

00:31:03.360 Am I exaggerating what the Ontario Auditor General said?

00:31:05.700 No, the actual language that the Auditor General used was she said that the government's numbers are bogus.

00:31:12.000 And I think that that's pretty much as close to saying there are lies as you can get.

00:31:18.940 And the Auditor General has refused to sign off on the government's books.

00:31:24.820 She said that the numbers are not reliable and she won't provide an audited opinion.

00:31:29.640 So that's serious, right?

00:31:31.580 Like, we've never had a government in Canada in any province where something like that has happened.

00:31:35.440 And that's with Premier Wynne.

00:31:37.940 With Andrea Horvath, we don't know if we're going to get something different.

00:31:41.440 We don't know if she's going to agree with the Auditor General's approach to the numbers or if she's just going to use the same Wynne tactics of trying to finesse the numbers and create complicated financing structures.

00:31:56.300 But we do know with the PC leader, Mr. Ford, that he has committed to accounting using the Auditor General's approach rather than the government's so-called bogus approach.

00:32:09.380 You know what?

00:32:09.900 It's incredible.

00:32:10.400 I was thinking from a corporate point of view, if you have a company listed on a stock exchange and the auditor refuses to sign off on the books, I'm not an expert in securities law.

00:32:21.500 But I would imagine that if you don't have an audited statement of financials for investors, the stock exchange is not going to let you sell your shares.

00:32:30.780 Because it's not just if you don't have it, if your auditor says, I refuse to certify it.

00:32:36.620 So it's not just no message.

00:32:38.220 If the message is blank, blank, blank, warning.

00:32:41.680 I think any corporation who acted that way, I think they would be delisted from the stock exchange.

00:32:46.760 What does it mean?

00:32:49.380 Like, I don't even know what the remedy would be.

00:32:51.920 Yeah, if you're a publicly traded company and you have something in your financial statements that's a material misrepresentation, that's a form of securities fraud.

00:33:01.640 You can actually go to prison for that.

00:33:05.280 And in the United States, the penalties are much more serious.

00:33:09.100 It's treated really, really seriously.

00:33:11.580 I believe an auditor in a company like that wouldn't say the books are not reliable.

00:33:17.380 They just wouldn't issue a statement.

00:33:19.040 And then the statement, the lack of a statement is very telling in itself.

00:33:25.580 But to publish something with material misrepresentations is fraudulent.

00:33:30.220 Wow.

00:33:31.060 You know what?

00:33:31.820 That's incredible.

00:33:32.660 But I got a question for you.

00:33:33.760 Do enough people care?

00:33:35.940 I mean, the debate the other day, and we showed some clips with Jerry Agar, it was almost like politicians trying to outbid each other with spending promises.

00:33:45.000 I suppose that's how it always is in elections.

00:33:48.620 Do people care that small deficits, big deficits, auditors blowing the whistle?

00:33:54.200 But does anybody hear it?

00:33:55.940 I guess I wonder if people love the illusion.

00:34:01.380 If someone says, well, I don't pay taxes anyway, so I want the most I can get, or I have a government job, so I know I'm safe.

00:34:10.300 I guess I always ask this, Ontario, does anyone even care?

00:34:13.600 So I can tell you, every taxpayer cares about certain things.

00:34:19.740 So everyone likes free stuff, and everyone hates tax increases.

00:34:24.120 And you can't really have both.

00:34:27.180 So if the government wants to promise you all of this free stuff, the dental care, the pharmacare, the $12 a day childcare that Horvath is promising, that free stuff is only free until you pay your taxes.

00:34:43.440 And then you see that your tax bill is going up and up and up, and people are getting really frustrated in this province.

00:34:49.960 So people do care when they pay their taxes.

00:34:53.000 I hope that they're able to make that connection, that all of these offers of so-called freebies are not actually free at all, that you end up paying more and more and more for them as these deficits get larger and larger and larger.

00:35:07.440 And that soon it's not you who's paying for them, it's your children, it's your grandchildren.

00:35:11.440 So I hope that voters keep that in mind.

00:35:14.340 Of course, it's not just the taxes.

00:35:15.660 I mean, living in Ontario, I've experienced the shocking power prices, electricity prices, and that's all government decisions, but it's called a power bill.

00:35:24.760 So you pretend, it seems like it's not a tax bill, but it's really just as much a tax as anything else.

00:35:31.900 I don't want to ask you for your horse race guesses, because I know that's not your business.

00:35:36.300 You're more a nonpartisan advocate for taxpayers, although it is fascinating.

00:35:41.580 I don't know if you're out and about in the community.

00:35:43.900 Do you think that the carbon tax is an issue?

00:35:48.880 It's something we care about here at The Rebel, and I know in the conservative leadership race,

00:35:53.740 Doug Ford and the other candidates sort of got themselves riled up against the carbon tax.

00:35:59.000 Are you worried that maybe Doug Ford's going soft on that?

00:36:01.920 Do you sense that that's an issue in the public fighting against the carbon tax, or is that last month's news?

00:36:07.880 No, carbon tax continues to be a big issue, and it's a bigger issue in different types of communities.

00:36:14.660 So people who are more in rural areas care about it more, people who drive more care about it more.

00:36:21.900 Other people might care about different issues.

00:36:24.220 I think in downtown Toronto it might not be as big an issue, but if you own a small business and rely on transportation,

00:36:30.840 or if you're in manufacturing, the carbon tax is a huge issue.

00:36:35.820 For other people, you know, I think people care a lot about bread and butter issues.

00:36:41.800 When you talk about gas prices, which are really, really high right now, you have to remember that the carbon tax is part of that.

00:36:50.660 And so people definitely care about the price at the pumps, and they just need to remember that the carbon tax is a big part of that.

00:36:58.000 It's almost five cents a litre added to your bill because of this government's kooky policy on cap and trade.

00:37:05.080 Yeah.

00:37:05.680 There was some premier or provincial premier or territorial premier, I can't remember, who said,

00:37:10.800 we already have a carbon tax.

00:37:11.820 We don't need to bring in Trudeau's carbon tax.

00:37:13.640 It's called our gasoline tax.

00:37:14.980 I forget who it was who said that.

00:37:16.500 That's a great point.

00:37:17.400 We don't need to have – I don't believe in carbon taxes at all, but if we do have to have one, and I don't accept that,

00:37:23.720 we all pay a carbon tax every bloody day at the gas pump.

00:37:27.200 And I'm trying to remember who – which provincial premier quipped that.

00:37:31.080 It was New Brunswick.

00:37:32.180 Oh, it was New Brunswick.

00:37:33.120 Well, I wish they would stand up and fight a little harder.

00:37:35.400 I thought it was a great line.

00:37:36.420 It's true, by the way.

00:37:37.760 Last word to you, Christine.

00:37:38.720 Do you think that – I mean, there's this Leninist phrase that I hate, but I hear it sometimes,

00:37:44.540 the worse, the better, as in for people to wake up and fight back, things have to get even worse.

00:37:51.080 And I'm very much against that because I don't want things to get worse.

00:37:54.200 I want us to wake up and not hit the snooze button again.

00:37:57.460 I am worried that Ontario is going to get worse, God forbid, before it turns itself around.

00:38:04.940 Are you worried about that?

00:38:05.980 Between Kathleen Wynne and Andrea Horvath, I think that's 50% of Ontario voters who are voting to make things worse.

00:38:14.120 Yeah, I'm not partisan, but what concerns me is a tendency of people towards turning to the government to solve all their problems

00:38:26.280 instead of asking the government to give them some of their money back and give them some of their freedoms back

00:38:32.260 and say, stop squeezing every last drop out of me.

00:38:35.600 And so I think there are parties that align one way or the other, but I think when it comes to giving people more of their money back,

00:38:45.240 that's not the NDP way.

00:38:49.080 At least that's what the experience has been in Alberta.

00:38:53.420 Canada, perhaps it would be different in Ontario, but with a leader who's promising to run a $4.7 billion deficit

00:39:02.600 and continue to run deficit up until the next election, I don't think this is someone who's interested in saving people money.

00:39:10.760 Yeah, well, I'm nervous.

00:39:12.100 Well, it's great to talk to you.

00:39:13.160 You were one of the good guys, that's for sure.

00:39:14.680 We always enjoy talking to our friends at the Taxpayers Federation.

00:39:17.040 I tell you, if there were 10 more groups like the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, we could really turn this country around.

00:39:24.260 There aren't that many, so I'm very grateful for the work you do and the rest of your teammates, Christine.

00:39:31.280 Oh, it looks like we lost our connection with Christine.

00:39:33.760 I was just saying thanks to her and buttering her up, as I like to do whenever I talk to those Taxpayers Federation types. 0.87

00:39:39.720 They're the best.

00:39:41.040 I'll give her a call and I'll say thanks to her offline.

00:39:44.080 But that was Christine Van Gein, the Ontario Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:39:48.780 Stay with us.

00:39:49.460 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:40:01.940 Hey, welcome back.

00:40:02.780 On my monologue yesterday about Tommy Robinson and the publication man Liza writes,

00:40:07.020 It's hard to think about anything other than Tommy and what the UK police, legal system, and government are doing to him.

00:40:11.920 I still can't believe Britain is so corrupt. 0.89

00:40:13.460 It truly is a disgrace.

00:40:14.680 If we can have a hand in getting them to overturn the reporting ban, it would be a huge win for everybody.

00:40:20.780 Well, thank you, Liza.

00:40:22.180 I was speaking for the last couple of days with our lawyer, Daniel Burke, who's based in Manchester in Northern England.

00:40:28.060 And he got on the file right away and he recruited a Queen's Counsel, a QC.

00:40:32.360 In the UK, they have a split legal profession.

00:40:34.920 You have barristers and solicitors.

00:40:36.580 It's sort of funny that way.

00:40:37.460 So we lawyered up and Daniel started working on the file.

00:40:41.580 But early this morning, I spoke to him and another newspaper, The Independent, it's called, went to court, I guess, hours quicker than we did.

00:40:51.420 And the judge lifted the publication ban on the Tommy Robinson part, not on the underlying rape gang trial part.

00:40:57.980 So we were ready to fight.

00:41:00.560 I was actually looking forward to the fight.

00:41:02.420 But someone got there hours before us.

00:41:04.440 And that's great, actually.

00:41:05.640 It's good to know that we're not the only people who care about freedom of the press in the UK.

00:41:10.280 I wish everyone had been there.

00:41:12.300 Where was the New York Times, CNN?

00:41:13.820 Where was the BBC?

00:41:15.300 They didn't care.

00:41:16.360 But I'm glad The Independent did.

00:41:17.840 And, of course, we did.

00:41:19.220 And I'm going to stay involved and interested in the story.

00:41:21.760 As I mentioned yesterday, Tommy does not work for us.

00:41:24.120 He went independent a few months ago, as you probably know.

00:41:26.860 I mean, I'm on good terms with him and everything.

00:41:28.400 I'm just not his boss.

00:41:29.140 So I did not have the authority to make decisions on his behalf.

00:41:33.540 And I still don't, of course.

00:41:35.320 Without his permission or his family's permission, I'm not going to meddle.

00:41:38.080 But this was something we could do in our own right.

00:41:40.840 And we did.

00:41:41.780 I'm glad it became moot so quickly.

00:41:44.740 Keith writes,

00:41:46.360 I'll wake up call to Canada, US, UK, Australia, and all civilized peoples who feel the talons of Marxism scratching at their backs.

00:41:53.820 Yeah, Marxism, I'd say it's an alliance between Islamism and politically correct social Marxism. 0.94

00:42:02.840 It's a collusion there.

00:42:04.400 It's funny that they're allies because so many aspects of postmodern leftism are contrary to Sharia law.

00:42:15.080 Feminism, gay rights, alcohol, dancing, whatever, music.

00:42:22.600 I mean, there's so many things about leftism that the jihad would wipe out.

00:42:30.780 But they are allies together, extreme leftism and extreme Sharia law, in taking on Western civilization. 0.98

00:42:38.180 I suppose the idea is once they defeat Western civilization, then they have a final battle.

00:42:43.140 By the way, I would bet on the fundamentalist Muslims over social justice warriors who aren't by nature physically robust or violent. 0.99

00:42:53.800 People, they're violent in an anti-fuck kind of way. 0.97

00:42:56.140 But if I had to bet who's going to win a civil war, this is a strange speculation, but my point is it is a tenuous, temporary alliance. 0.99

00:43:07.560 But it's quite effective, isn't it?

00:43:08.840 On my interview with Jerry Agar, Robert writes,

00:43:12.520 I agree with Jerry Agar.

00:43:13.580 I thought Horvath was rude throughout the debate.

00:43:15.720 She kept talking over the other candidates.

00:43:17.520 I suspect that undecided viewers would not be impressed with her antics.

00:43:20.840 She may have also alienated those people who usually vote liberal, but might consider voting for her in order to block Ford. 0.84

00:43:26.780 They might just stay home instead.

00:43:29.340 You know what?

00:43:30.020 I have lost my confidence in my ability to guess these kind of tea leaves reading things.

00:43:35.780 I mean, on the one hand, yes, it's very irritating, someone interrupting, interrupting like that.

00:43:39.900 But was it effective?

00:43:41.140 Did it knock the other people off their path?

00:43:43.980 I think maybe.

00:43:44.960 Did it show a feistiness?

00:43:46.300 Will people say, yeah, you do that, you go?

00:43:49.260 And if so, it's hard to read these things.

00:43:52.960 Jerry made the great point that it's one thing for a woman to interrupt a man in a way that a man could never interrupt that woman without being called a bully.

00:44:00.860 That's just part of the gender dynamics. 1.00

00:44:02.560 I mean, I remember the other day, Doug Ford said Kathleen Wynne had a nice smile, and that was considered this great sexist moment.

00:44:13.360 Yeah, that's gender politics in 2018. 1.00

00:44:16.960 I sure hope Doug Ford wins, because it would be a disaster for Ontario.

00:44:20.920 The other day, I mentioned that when you're at the height of an empire, it seems impossible that it would be any other way.

00:44:29.380 I can imagine Rome at its apex felt like it would endure for a millennium, or to be more smaller in scale.

00:44:38.400 I imagine Detroit in the 50s seemed unstoppable, highest wage in America, strong employment.

00:44:47.960 And it was a magnet for black workers, because it was in the north, and it was good industrial jobs.

00:44:55.420 And then the Democrats took over, and the industrial heart of America moved away from Detroit.

00:45:02.980 Unions, left-wing politics, social justice-type politics, Democrats, corruption.

00:45:08.100 And now Detroit is a bombed-out, poor city, instead of the greatest city for working men in America.

00:45:16.580 I tell you the analogy of Detroit, because it's unthinkable that Ontario, the economic engine of Canada, could be anything other than the boss, right?

00:45:26.260 It's unthinkable that this city would not be the capital of Canada economically forever.

00:45:31.120 Well, you know, it's not unthinkable.

00:45:33.100 Ask Detroit, and ask Montreal.

00:45:36.020 Montreal, in so many ways, was a business capital to rival Toronto until the early 70s.

00:45:43.120 The Bank of Montreal, I mean, right there, it was in Montreal.

00:45:46.120 Now it's just a symbolic office in Montreal.

00:45:49.080 What ruined it?

00:45:51.200 Politics.

00:45:51.940 In that case, separatist politics and anti-Anglo politics.

00:45:57.240 And what, 100,000 of Montreal's leading Anglo business people, and a lot of Jews, by the way, moved from Montreal to Toronto,

00:46:06.020 because they didn't like being poked at for being non-Francophone.

00:46:09.520 They didn't like some of the language laws, the sign laws.

00:46:14.060 They didn't like the uncertainty of it.

00:46:16.860 So Montreal suffered a permanent and irreversible economic decline for political reasons.

00:46:23.720 Detroit has suffered a permanent and irreversible economic decline for political purposes.

00:46:29.100 Trump's trying to turn that around.

00:46:30.300 Do you think Ontario, if it votes for NDP or Liberal again, will be able to pull out of its 10-year economic decline?

00:46:39.560 I don't.

00:46:40.840 That's an unhappy way to end today's show.

00:46:43.420 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

00:46:48.920 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - May 30, 2018

Ezra Levant Show May 29 2018

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