Rebel News Podcast - Ezra Levant Show May 4 2018

00:00:00.000 Tonight, nearly 2,000 Christian groups were banned from getting summer jobs grants,

00:00:04.660 but wait till you see the Muslim ones that got them. 1.00

00:00:07.860 It's May 4th and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:15.960 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:19.780 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:23.500 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:26.480 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so. 0.89

00:00:37.180 Justin Trudeau doesn't like Christians, or at least Christians who mean it.

00:00:41.800 Here he is prior to the last federal election announcing that he's banning any pro-life Christians from running as liberal candidates, just banning them.

00:00:49.760 All that talk about diversity, of course he doesn't mean it.

00:00:52.340 It's just virtue signaling, politically correct fashion preening.

00:00:56.480 Now there's an obvious point to make.

00:00:58.040 Of course, he does have pro-life MPs, even cabinet ministers.

00:01:03.180 The vast majority of practicing Sikhs and Muslims in Canada are pro-life.

00:01:07.940 Trudeau doesn't ban them, just pro-life Christians.

00:01:11.640 Well now comes news from our own friend Candace Malcolm about the summer jobs grants that Trudeau tampered with this year.

00:01:18.480 Here's the 2018 Summer Jobs Application and Agreement form.

00:01:23.900 It's a jobs program to help hire young people across the country for things that are sort of social work-y.

00:01:29.220 If you look at Section 14, you can see some of the work that Trudeau will subsidize.

00:01:33.980 Youth work, seniors work, the homeless, and then a lot of identity politics, affirmative action too, for Trudeau's favorite groups.

00:01:40.760 And there's one line in there, cultural development.

00:01:44.400 Anyways, so in the past, summer camps and charities have signed up to get some help employing summer job students.

00:01:51.560 And a lot of do-gooders in Canada are, of course, linked to churches.

00:01:55.320 That's what motivates many people to be altruistic, their religious belief.

00:01:59.580 And in Canada, that has historically meant Christianity.

00:02:02.460 But this year, Trudeau started demanding that these religiously motivated do-gooders,

00:02:08.420 whether it's a soup kitchen or a summer camp or a homeless shelter or a senior's home,

00:02:12.720 the kind of thing supported by the summer jobs grant,

00:02:15.520 well, they had to renounce their views if they contradicted Trudeau's own personal preferences.

00:02:22.440 This is a jobs grant to hire students for the summer.

00:02:26.380 But employers had to swear, a test is the word they used,

00:02:29.320 that they agree with our dear leader on these very personal, private faith matters unrelated to the jobs.

00:02:35.820 Here's the wording of the attestation.

00:02:38.420 Both the job and my organization's core mandate respect individual human rights in Canada,

00:02:44.300 including the values underlying the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as well as other rights.

00:02:49.400 These include reproductive rights and the right to be free from discrimination

00:02:52.880 on the basis of sex, religion, race, national or ethnic origin, color, mental or physical disability,

00:02:57.080 or sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression.

00:03:01.680 Now, what's that got to do with the soup kitchen?

00:03:04.740 Some of the most altruistic charities in the world are motivated by Christian belief,

00:03:08.640 even though the manifestation of that work looks like, I don't know, giving sleeping bags to homeless people.

00:03:14.420 Why would you require someone who has such a charity,

00:03:17.600 why would you require them to swear an oath that they agree with Justin Trudeau on his particular values

00:03:23.760 about, say, transgender issues or abortion,

00:03:26.840 before giving them a summer jobs grant to help house the homeless?

00:03:30.740 What on earth does that have to do with it?

00:03:34.180 And since when did our rights to access government programs

00:03:37.460 require that we have to publicly and positively agree with the prime minister on personal matters?

00:03:43.860 And since when did private citizens have to publicly renounce themselves

00:03:48.320 in some Maoist exercise of self-crimination?

00:03:51.940 And sorry to be a stickler, but I've read and re-read the Charter of Rights,

00:03:55.720 and there's nothing in there about reproductive rights, I'm sorry.

00:03:59.400 And that's a vague euphemism anyways.

00:04:01.460 If you're saying that one pro, you know, that pro-abortion people,

00:04:06.740 only pro-abortion people can now get government grants,

00:04:10.100 if you're only saying pro-abortion people can get government grants,

00:04:12.760 then just come out and say it.

00:04:15.060 Don't use a euphemism.

00:04:16.960 And don't pretend that's in the Charter.

00:04:19.080 The Charter does the opposite.

00:04:20.280 It protects each of us for our freedom of thought and belief and religion and expression,

00:04:25.180 freedom against the government bullying us about those matters.

00:04:29.260 Invoking the Charter while persecuting people for a religious point of view,

00:04:33.400 that's repugnant, that's contrary to the Charter.

00:04:36.260 Anyways, you know all that.

00:04:37.460 And you know that more than 1,400 applications have been rejected because of this religious ban.

00:04:45.640 But look at this news.

00:04:46.920 This is from Candace Malcolm today.

00:04:48.560 Controversial Islamic groups receive Canada's summer jobs grants.

00:04:52.760 Let me quote to you from her story in The Sun today.

00:04:55.140 The Trudeau government has used the controversial Canada's summer jobs grant

00:04:58.740 to fund an Islamic group with terror ties and another with a history of anti-gay rhetoric.

00:05:04.580 The Sun has learned.

00:05:06.440 According to a government database listing recipients of the Canada's summer jobs grant,

00:05:10.020 both the Canadian Arab Federation and the Anatolia Islamic Centre

00:05:14.940 have been approved for federal funding in 2018.

00:05:17.560 Do you think those groups swore an attestation that they support Trudeau's personal views

00:05:23.920 on abortion and transgenderism?

00:05:26.760 Do you really think they did?

00:05:28.660 And if they did, do you think they meant it in any way?

00:05:33.380 Well, Candace's story is pretty clear in The Sun today.

00:05:36.420 If they actually did sign that attestation, it was an act of taqiyya.

00:05:41.260 That's the Arabic word for the Islamic deception of infidels for tactical advantage. 1.00

00:05:47.560 In 2019, the Canadian Arab Federation, I'm reading on some more here from the article.

00:05:52.860 In 2009, excuse me, CAF was defunded over the group's extremism and support for terrorist groups,

00:06:00.420 a decision made by the previous Harper Conservative government and backed up by a federal judge.

00:06:06.260 So that's the group that's in sync with Trudeau's values,

00:06:11.360 but not, say, I don't know, the Salvation Army or Christian summer camp.

00:06:15.560 Here's some more from the story.

00:06:16.840 The Anatolia Islamic Center also has a history of controversy.

00:06:20.960 The center's imam made headlines in 2013 for anti-gay comments caught on tape.

00:06:26.660 Yeah, I remember that tape. Here it is. Take a look.

00:06:28.720 Homosexuality is against everything. It's against a plot. It's against even nature or the way we are created. 1.00

00:06:38.180 Then all of a sudden, he started talking about abuse and discrimination against homosexuals. 0.99

00:06:44.720 Homosexuality is against homosexuals. And he said, I personally, I'm gay, and people are used to it all the time. 0.95

00:06:53.080 And I was sitting next to the guy, and I was just like, okay.

00:06:58.180 And I'm moving my chair.

00:06:59.520 That's the guy. He's teaching kids. He's getting them to laugh that if you're next to someone who's gay, literally move your chair away. 0.92

00:07:13.180 So a Salvation Army, food bank, or a Christian summer camp is banned from getting summer jobs by Justin Trudeau because they're quietly pro-life and they won't lie about it on a form. 0.86

00:07:25.720 But anti-Semitic groups, groups that positively teach mockery of gays, they get Trudeau's money.

00:07:32.640 Your money, really. 0.61

00:07:34.260 But it's not just these groups that Candace Malcolm mentioned.

00:07:38.180 I went to the database that Candace referred to, and I typed the word Islam into the list of summer grants recipients.

00:07:46.380 In Ontario alone, 30 groups got money.

00:07:50.560 I typed in the word Muslim, too. In Ontario alone, 41 more groups.

00:07:54.960 That's 71 groups, just with the words Muslim or Islam in their names, and that's just in Ontario.

00:08:02.760 I know some of these groups. I know the Islamic Circle of North America.

00:08:06.060 They're the Muslim extremists who went to court for the right to wear a full-face obscuring niqab in citizenship court. 0.98

00:08:12.460 That's their organizer, Zunera Ishak, the one who went to court.

00:08:17.320 Do you really think she's a pro-transgender believer?

00:08:21.740 She doesn't even believe in her own gender. 1.00

00:08:24.220 She believes women should be obscured, have their faces hidden. 0.99

00:08:28.500 Do you really believe these 71 groups in Ontario alone?

00:08:31.420 I haven't added them up for the other provinces, too, but it's surely hundreds.

00:08:35.380 Do you think they actually agree with Justin Trudeau's pro-abortion, pro-trans views?

00:08:41.180 Of course they don't.

00:08:43.880 But that rule and that attestation was never meant for Muslims.

00:08:47.000 Just like Trudeau's ban on pro-life candidates was never meant for Muslims, just for Christians.

00:08:53.160 My friends, the war on Christianity is a lot worse than just people saying season's greetings instead of Merry Christmas.

00:09:00.960 Stay with us for more on this subject.

00:09:02.700 Welcome back.

00:09:20.180 Well, there might be 71 Muslim groups in Ontario, explicitly anti-gay and pro-life Muslim groups that got summer jobs grants,

00:09:28.460 but not groups in other provinces that have any Christian beliefs, even if their work is completely unrelated to the issues of abortion and transgenderism.

00:09:39.580 And joining us now via Skype from Brooks, Alberta, is one such company that made an application.

00:09:45.120 I'm talking about a company that specializes in eco-friendly irrigation.

00:09:50.300 There's really nothing transgender-ish or pro-choice or pro-life-ish about it. 1.00

00:09:56.680 But because the owners of the company would not swear an oath that they support Justin Trudeau's political views, they were denied.

00:10:04.440 There's summer jobs grant joining us now is Rhea Lee Anderson and her husband, Bill. 1.00

00:10:10.620 Welcome to the show.

00:10:11.440 Thanks for taking the time to be with us.

00:10:14.100 Thanks for having us.

00:10:15.920 Tell me a little bit about your business.

00:10:18.760 It's completely non-political, non-partisan, other than I suppose you have a bit of an ecological approach, right?

00:10:26.280 You're an irrigation company.

00:10:28.240 Tell me what you do.

00:10:30.760 We work in agriculture irrigation.

00:10:32.700 So our primary business is setting up pivoted irrigation equipment for farmers so they can grow food and grow feed for cattle and pigs and other things like that.

00:10:44.980 So, I mean, would you agree with my assessment that you are not a political company?

00:10:50.680 You're not proselytizing pro-life views?

00:10:53.820 I mean, even if you were, I think that would be completely your right under the charter.

00:10:58.240 But what you do has got nothing to do with politics.

00:11:02.260 Am I correct?

00:11:04.380 No, nothing we do has anything to do with politics.

00:11:07.220 We are Bible-believing Christians.

00:11:09.480 And we do some outreach work, you know, both through our business and personally.

00:11:15.040 But we're not politically minded, I guess, or politically driven at our business.

00:11:20.340 And what was the position you were looking to hire?

00:11:24.120 Just a student to help you install the irrigation or drive around?

00:11:28.940 Or what was the, who were you looking to hire?

00:11:31.440 Well, previously we've had a, we had an engineering summer student and when he was with us, he came in and he learned how to use hand tools, install equipment, help with maintenance and repairs.

00:11:44.700 And with his background going into engineering, we actually had him in our design department so he could learn some of the design aspects and take some of that value forward as he went back to engineering school.

00:11:56.560 So you applied for the summer jobs grant this year and you saw the religious attestation and did you write anything?

00:12:05.740 Did you mark an X or a check?

00:12:07.520 Did you strike a line through it?

00:12:08.980 How did you handle that demand that you submit to Justin Trudeau's personal views?

00:12:14.560 Well, I guess I can speak to that.

00:12:19.600 I was the one that filled in the application and, you know, when I read the attestation, there's portions of it that I didn't disagree with.

00:12:27.800 But there was the inner voice that said, a lot of this, the government really shouldn't be asking you these questions.

00:12:36.560 So because there's so much built into the attestation, there's a lot of aspects to it.

00:12:42.120 So we sat on it a little bit.

00:12:44.000 We talked about it.

00:12:44.860 We decided to mail in our application without checking it.

00:12:48.520 And the government responded and said that the application was incomplete.

00:12:54.140 They gave us 10 days to fill it in.

00:12:57.080 And I responded with an email informing them that we wouldn't be checking it because it was unconstitutional for them to ask us.

00:13:06.720 And I take it they just rejected you after that and moved on and rejected 1,400, 1,500 others in the same way.

00:13:15.600 So that's sort of the end of the story, I presume, is that you wouldn't fill it.

00:13:19.740 You wouldn't check that box.

00:13:21.300 And that was the only flaw in your application, I take it.

00:13:23.900 They didn't object to anything else.

00:13:26.540 No.

00:13:27.080 Not that we're aware of.

00:13:28.040 So now I'm very pleased to hear that you've teamed up with the man I believe to be Canada's leading civil liberties lawyer, John Carpe of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:13:38.480 Tell me about the lawsuit in layman's terms.

00:13:40.420 We'll be talking to John in a moment.

00:13:42.460 But you connected with him.

00:13:44.000 And what exactly are you demanding the government do?

00:13:46.920 Well, we're asking that we're going to back to get this wrong right.

00:13:55.000 I mean, it's not constitutional to do this.

00:13:59.140 You know, we're just disgusted by this situation.

00:14:04.260 I mean, our freedoms were built on people's backs that, you know, went to war and died for our country.

00:14:09.920 And our freedoms have just been being whittled away, both by federal and provincial governments.

00:14:17.100 And enough is enough.

00:14:18.300 So it's not a matter of not getting that funding.

00:14:22.500 That's not a make or break for us, as it is some people that weren't granted it.

00:14:27.240 It's a matter of fighting for our freedoms.

00:14:29.780 Enough is enough.

00:14:30.980 Right.

00:14:32.120 I don't know if you saw the Toronto Sun today.

00:14:34.140 Candace Malcolm had a story about various Muslim extremist groups that received grants.

00:14:40.440 And I did some poking around.

00:14:41.660 And I can count 71 Islamic groups in Ontario.

00:14:44.320 And I know some of them.

00:14:46.080 They certainly do not share Justin Trudeau's views on transgenderism and abortion.

00:14:53.780 Why do you think they got the grant money and you guys didn't?

00:14:57.560 I mean, you're an irrigation company.

00:14:59.980 You're not an Islamic group. 1.00

00:15:01.580 I mean, these are explicitly Islamic evangelist groups.

00:15:05.380 I mean, they're with names like the Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of

00:15:09.320 North America.

00:15:09.900 There's mosques.

00:15:11.000 There's propaganda institutes.

00:15:12.780 So their only business was spreading the Koran. 0.95

00:15:16.700 Your business is spreading irrigation.

00:15:19.280 Why do you think they got it?

00:15:20.400 I mean, I guess I'm asking you to speculate.

00:15:22.220 But how can it happen?

00:15:24.140 It's not just one or two of these Muslim groups that snuck through.

00:15:27.800 Dozens and dozens and dozens.

00:15:29.560 Do you have any theories on that?

00:15:32.120 I mean, you're speculating like I am.

00:15:33.740 But what do you make of that?

00:15:36.260 I would assume they checked the box.

00:15:38.620 Ah.

00:15:40.020 We didn't feel we could check the box.

00:15:42.820 It's, you know, when you talk about an attestation, it's your agreeing to these conditions, you know.

00:15:49.940 It's a testimony.

00:15:50.840 A testimony of what you agree to.

00:15:53.920 We're not saying that people are not, shouldn't have human rights.

00:15:58.980 You know, we are, as a business, we are bound to the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:16:05.300 We're not going to argue that.

00:16:07.140 But we don't have to agree with everything.

00:16:09.900 We have to follow it by law.

00:16:11.620 Right.

00:16:11.920 And they don't have the right to ask.

00:16:13.420 And I guess if you just check the box and move on and not worry about it, then maybe you get funding.

00:16:20.900 But what's under the checkbox next?

00:16:24.400 Yeah.

00:16:24.640 Yeah.

00:16:25.360 Good point.

00:16:25.980 I think you're probably right. 0.97

00:16:27.080 I think they thought if these fools will give us money and all we have to do is check a box, we'll take it and we'll take the money for our Islamic evangelism. 0.96

00:16:36.000 I think you're right. 0.98

00:16:36.720 I think they were not as conscientious.

00:16:38.380 We'll have to find out.

00:16:39.300 I simply don't know.

00:16:40.920 It's just shocking to see.

00:16:42.700 Well, listen, I wish you guys good luck, Rhi Lin and Bill, and we'll keep a close eye on your case.

00:16:50.440 I'm going to sign off with you now and I'm going to talk to your lawyer, an old friend of ours, John Carpe.

00:16:56.160 But thank you for taking the time.

00:16:57.960 I'm glad you stood on principle here.

00:16:59.940 And hopefully your litigation will be a win for religious freedom for all Canadians.

00:17:04.980 So thanks for doing it.

00:17:07.320 Thank you very much.

00:17:08.300 All right.

00:17:09.100 Nice to meet you.

00:17:09.800 That's Ray Lin and Bill Anderson.

00:17:13.080 They have an A1 irrigation and technical services company in Brooks, Alberta that was refused summer jobs funding because they would not sign an attestation that we read you in full earlier today.

00:17:27.240 All right.

00:17:27.680 Up next is John Carpe.

00:17:30.100 And here he is now.

00:17:31.900 John, it's great to see you again.

00:17:33.180 And when I heard there was a legal challenge to this attestation, I knew it had to be you because, quite simply, there is no other civil liberties lawyer in Canada worth his salt on this issue.

00:17:42.600 First of all, congratulations and thank you for taking the case of the Andersons.

00:17:45.540 Well, it's a real honor to have people that are willing to come forward because it's not easy to be a client or an applicant in court action.

00:17:56.240 Well, I just spoke to them for about five minutes, not much more.

00:18:00.260 They seem like severely normal people, so to speak.

00:18:03.900 I mean, they're not troublemakers.

00:18:05.920 They're in the irrigation business, for heaven's sakes.

00:18:08.220 And the idea that they would have to bend the knee to Justin Trudeau's own interpretation of abortion rights or transgenderism is so absurd.

00:18:17.120 And that they couldn't hire a summer student to work on their irrigation projects because they wouldn't say, yeah, boss, we're pro-choice.

00:18:26.400 It's un-Canadian. 0.96

00:18:28.260 That is an un-Canadian thing that they were forced to do.

00:18:30.860 Well, people forget that, you know, even if Justin Trudeau was correct in saying that abortion is a charter right, and of course he's not correct,

00:18:40.880 anybody that's read the Supreme Court of Canada decision, 1988, Morgenthaler, will understand that even the Supreme Court said that Parliament has authority to protect unborn human life.

00:18:54.900 But here's the thing, even if Trudeau was correct and there is a charter right to abortion, even there, in a free country, you do not have to agree with your own country's constitution.

00:19:08.700 You can be free to say, you know, I think that there's parts of the constitution that are wrong.

00:19:12.740 And that should not prevent you from getting your Canada pension check or EI benefits or, you know, access to any government program.

00:19:21.380 Yeah. And that's what's so incredible.

00:19:25.420 And another layer here is, I mean, put the shoe on the other foot.

00:19:29.500 Let's say Stephen Harper had required Canadians to say, I agree with Stephen Harper's interpretation,

00:19:37.340 and we should have a three strikes you're out rule for serious crimes. 0.96

00:19:42.900 I mean, that was the law of the land under Stephen Harper.

00:19:45.640 It absolutely was.

00:19:46.560 Because it would have been so bizarre to the world that you would have had to agree with Stephen Harper and nod your head to get a grant for an irrigation company summer job.

00:19:56.880 And I can only imagine the shrieking and the constitutional, it really would have been a constitutional crisis.

00:20:04.460 This is a coup.

00:20:05.780 This is a theocratic coup or something.

00:20:08.120 But I see extremely little pushback from the media party, from the political media establishment.

00:20:15.340 I haven't seen I could probably count on one hand's fingers the lawyers and law professors who have spoken out against this.

00:20:22.400 If this were on the other side, you would see entire faculties of law not only speaking out against it in the media, but they would be suing.

00:20:29.380 You would have a dozen lawsuits.

00:20:31.220 Every law school in the country would have professors volunteering to sue. 0.82

00:20:34.800 Where the heck are they, John?

00:20:37.340 Where are the so-called civil libertarians?

00:20:40.760 Well, it's always hard to separate politics from basic fundamental freedoms under the Constitution.

00:20:49.780 And yet this has to be done.

00:20:52.100 And, you know, there's something fundamentally wrong with the government requiring that you declare something or pretend to agree to certain values.

00:21:02.800 And to have that as a condition for accessing a government program.

00:21:08.440 You know, this is, if we don't stop this trend, you know, what we're heading towards is ultimately, and we're not close to it, but ultimately, this is the kind of thing that would go on in, you know, places like North Korea. 0.80

00:21:22.280 Or, you know, theocratic Iran or Maoist China or Stalinist Russia or, you know, so on and so forth.

00:21:31.600 So we have to really nip this in the bud and, you know, cut it off at the roots before it grows any further.

00:21:38.680 Just this whole concept that a citizen has to agree with certain values in order to access a government program.

00:21:47.800 Yeah, you're so right.

00:21:49.980 Your example of will you still get CPP?

00:21:52.780 Will you still get unemployment insurance?

00:21:54.140 Those are excellent examples because those are as much you're right.

00:21:57.380 If you meet the eligibility criteria, you know, did you pay in, are you unemployed, did you pay in, are you of a certain age, to add another layer that you must make some sort of political declaration.

00:22:09.220 That really is a Big Brother style thing.

00:22:11.360 That really is, I mean, you mentioned some of these totalitarian regimes where they took notes who would be the first to stop clapping.

00:22:17.780 You know, that really happened.

00:22:18.780 And who would be the, and in Canada, we believe dissent is so important that we give the biggest complainer in the country a job called the leader of the opposition.

00:22:29.960 We love opposition.

00:22:31.640 We love debate.

00:22:32.400 We love dispute.

00:22:33.200 That's how we learn and improve.

00:22:34.800 And the idea that certain things are no longer debatable and that you must echo the prime minister's views, it's, I say again, it's un-Canadian.

00:22:44.560 John, tell me, give me one minute on the legalities itself.

00:22:47.140 What's the nature of the lawsuit you filed on behalf of the Anderson family?

00:22:52.040 What court did you file it in?

00:22:54.160 And what do you think the timeline is?

00:22:56.060 Are we talking about months or years?

00:22:57.980 So give me a little bit of a legal briefing.

00:23:00.920 Sure.

00:23:01.840 So the biggest concern is this violates the charter section to be freedom of expression.

00:23:08.560 To be forced or compelled or pressured to say something is a violation of your free expression rights.

00:23:15.340 Just as much as it would be to say that you're not allowed to say what your opinion is.

00:23:21.120 They are two sides of the same coin.

00:23:23.100 So the government can attack freedom of expression by saying, well, you're not allowed to say that opinion.

00:23:27.660 Or by saying, well, you must say a certain opinion.

00:23:32.140 So that's the core argument.

00:23:33.680 And secondarily, we've also put into the same court application freedom of conscience and religion.

00:23:41.020 For anybody that doesn't agree with Trudeau's opinions about abortion, there's a religious freedom there violation as well.

00:23:49.640 But primarily, it's the freedom of expression that concerns us most.

00:23:54.020 We filed the statement of claim in the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench.

00:23:58.520 It's posted on our website, www.jccf.ca.

00:24:03.000 And unfortunately, it'll probably be a year and two months before we get a substantive hearing on the merits.

00:24:14.760 It's going to take some time that way.

00:24:17.420 But it's an important case.

00:24:20.180 Yeah.

00:24:20.580 Now, what are you asking for?

00:24:22.200 I'm sure you're asking for a declaration that this was unconstitutional.

00:24:25.960 Are you asking for any damages?

00:24:27.540 I mean, the Andersons probably would have had some hundreds or thousands of dollars from this program.

00:24:33.820 Are you asking for any monetary compensation?

00:24:38.380 We'd have to look at that a bit.

00:24:40.780 If we've put that into the court documents, it's something that's of secondary importance.

00:24:47.740 I mean, the important thing is to get the declaration from the court to say that no government has any right or authority to do this.

00:24:55.380 I wonder if this is something that there could even be a class action.

00:24:57.880 Because from what I read in the media reports, up to 1,500 families, companies, businesses, churches, whatever, have been denied this.

00:25:09.140 I mean, that's a lot of people.

00:25:10.400 And you don't need 1,500 lawyers.

00:25:12.520 It sounds like a class action lawsuit.

00:25:15.920 I wonder if that's possible.

00:25:18.020 I mean, I know you've got your hands full.

00:25:19.520 You've just filed this one.

00:25:20.520 But I hope that some enterprising lawyer does that.

00:25:23.500 But you mentioned it's going to take a year plus.

00:25:25.740 That means that the liberals could well do this in 2019 as well, before your matter is even heard by judges.

00:25:33.840 Yes.

00:25:34.480 Now, it is open to us to also apply for an interim injunction.

00:25:38.840 And we will consider that.

00:25:40.820 If that application was made, we could get a hearing on it sooner.

00:25:45.020 Like maybe get a hearing on it by sometime this fall.

00:25:48.620 And that would be good to make sure that this garbage doesn't continue next year.

00:25:55.100 Yeah. 0.96

00:25:55.720 Yeah, you're right.

00:25:56.660 I want to ask you one last thing.

00:25:58.220 Sorry, go ahead.

00:25:59.160 Sure.

00:25:59.960 No, there will be other court actions forthcoming.

00:26:02.960 I'm aware of a number of lawyers that I'm in touch with that have clients in just about every province in Canada.

00:26:11.120 So don't be surprised if you see some more court actions being filed in the weeks and months ahead.

00:26:16.880 There will be quite a few, I would expect.

00:26:19.260 Well, I'm glad to hear that.

00:26:20.580 And my favorite part of what you've just said is that there's other lawyers doing it, too.

00:26:24.260 Because, John, so often you're the one carrying all the weight on your shoulders here.

00:26:27.840 And I know you have some allies and some staff at the JCCF.

00:26:31.720 But, you know, it's like Atlas.

00:26:33.480 You're carrying the whole world on your shoulders.

00:26:34.880 The fact that there are other lawyers out there is the most encouraging thing you've said to me today.

00:26:39.640 I have one last question.

00:26:40.620 And it's more speculative than anything.

00:26:42.560 And I put it to your clients a moment ago.

00:26:44.340 I see in the Toronto Sunday, Candice Malcolm reports that a variety of Muslim groups in Canada,

00:26:49.740 including some that are known for their intolerance, their anti-gay extremism,

00:26:54.140 including some that even support terrorism, have received these grants.

00:26:57.820 And I went online and I Googled.

00:26:59.760 So I went to the government search engine.

00:27:01.540 And I found in 30 seconds, 71 different Muslim and Islamic groups in Ontario alone,

00:27:09.080 some of which are extremist, some of which are reactionary to the extreme, 0.79

00:27:13.880 outwardly anti-gay, anti-Semitic, frankly, some of them.

00:27:17.700 They all got grants.

00:27:19.200 And I asked your clients, what do you think about that?

00:27:20.840 And they said, well, they probably just checked the box just to get the dough.

00:27:24.280 I mean, I don't know how an irrigation company like your clients is blackballed,

00:27:30.140 but explicitly evangelistic groups promoting the religious doctrine of Islam,

00:27:36.800 which is anti-gay and anti, you know, frankly, anti-women's rights.

00:27:40.860 How they got the dough, but an irrigation company that's owned by Christians didn't. 1.00

00:27:46.760 I just can't square that circle.

00:27:50.180 Well, that's one of the sad things about the attestation is that it's the people with integrity

00:27:57.480 are honoring their conscience in not ticking off the box, right?

00:28:03.260 So you've got people that read it and they say, you know, I'm being asked to check off a box.

00:28:08.640 And by doing so, I'm saying that I agree with abortion being legal. 0.53

00:28:13.040 I agree with Trudeau's entirely incorrect claim that abortion is a charter right.

00:28:19.240 And I cannot in good conscience take off the box.

00:28:22.820 So they're not taking off the box.

00:28:24.220 They're not getting the money.

00:28:25.480 It's the people with less integrity that would be the ones that would just take off the box.

00:28:33.680 I'm not saying everybody who takes off the box is lacking in integrity.

00:28:37.140 I mean, there are people who agree with abortion being legal and they agree with Justin Trudeau.

00:28:42.100 So they're not lacking in integrity when they check off the box.

00:28:46.600 But there could be people, you know, as far as I know, Islam is not in favor of abortion or transgenderism.

00:28:54.220 So, you know, I don't know what these Muslim groups are doing if they're ticking off the box to get the money. 1.00

00:28:59.940 But this is this is very, very sad commentary as well, that that you when the government starts pressuring people to, you know, agree with certain sets of values, you get into that problem of people maybe being less than honest just because they want the money or, you know, good people of conscience being blocked from a government program.

00:29:25.120 Yeah.

00:29:25.240 So the whole thing is just rotten to the core.

00:29:27.400 You know, I'm thinking back to my law school days.

00:29:31.440 One of the cases I remember, just because I thought the name of the two parties was so interesting, was called Ron Corelli versus Du Plessis.

00:29:39.580 And there was a restaurateur in Quebec named Ron Corelli.

00:29:43.180 And there was a premier named Du Plessis.

00:29:46.300 And Ron Corelli kept on bailing out Jehovah's Witnesses who would get in trouble for this or that.

00:29:52.580 And this guy, Ron Corelli, just kept on paying their bail.

00:29:54.860 And Du Plessis hated the Jehovah's Witnesses so bad.

00:29:58.420 And he was so angry at this guy, Ron Corelli, for bailing him out that he refused to give Ron Corelli his liquor license, which basically put him out of business.

00:30:05.380 And that case went all the way to the Supreme Court.

00:30:07.140 And the Supreme Court said, you cannot use a government tool like in this case, a liquor license.

00:30:13.480 You can't use that for collateral reasons to, in this case, a religious battle.

00:30:20.860 And it just, you know, that was, what, 50 plus years ago.

00:30:25.020 And here we are again, another bully from Quebec, Justin Trudeau, is trying to punish people whose religion he disagrees with, his religious views.

00:30:34.880 This time it's Christians or other people who honestly say they disagree with him.

00:30:38.280 I'm sure that Ron Corelli case will be part of your legal case.

00:30:41.480 You know, the parallels are striking.

00:30:45.360 In both cases, you have an abuse of authority and you have people that are using their government power just to punish or penalize their political opponents.

00:30:56.740 And, you know, don't be surprised if that Ron Corelli versus Duplicy case, and I remember it well from law school, and we often have it in our materials at the Justice Center.

00:31:08.840 We often use that case.

00:31:10.200 So don't be surprised to see it in this, you know, irrigation company's challenge to the attestation.

00:31:16.940 Yeah.

00:31:17.400 Well, John, it's great to talk with you again.

00:31:19.380 I just knew in my bones when I heard this lawsuit, I thought, I bet John's the lawyer.

00:31:24.060 We're so proud to be your friend and ally.

00:31:25.880 Folks, you heard John's website.

00:31:27.600 It's jccf.ca.

00:31:29.200 Go support him.

00:31:30.560 Occasionally we raise some funds for you, too, through the show.

00:31:32.820 We'll have to do that again in the future.

00:31:34.660 In fact, I got a check.

00:31:35.800 I think we have some dough for you that we should send on over.

00:31:39.040 It was for another case.

00:31:40.020 That was for another freedom.

00:31:41.740 You're always fighting for freedom.

00:31:43.800 And we admire you, and we wish you strength, and we send you our moral support.

00:31:49.780 I know our viewers are so grateful for what you do.

00:31:51.940 And maybe we can keep in touch with this one.

00:31:56.080 If you do get the expedited hearing, maybe we can have you back on the show to give us an update.

00:32:01.600 We'd love that.

00:32:02.580 Thank you so much, and thanks to all your viewers and listeners.

00:32:05.580 All right.

00:32:06.020 Well, you bet.

00:32:06.520 We're on your side.

00:32:07.180 There you go.

00:32:07.500 John Carpe.

00:32:08.040 Hey, I call him Canada's leading civil liberties lawyer.

00:32:11.800 I regret that's a very short list that he leads, but it sounds like he has some other allies in other provinces.

00:32:17.740 I look forward to meeting those lawyers, too.

00:32:19.700 And wouldn't it be wonderful if there were a lot of John Carpe's?

00:32:23.280 If we had just five more guys like him, I think we could really turn the tide.

00:32:27.120 It was interesting also to meet his clients, very salt-of-the-earth people, who it's really normal to use an old phrase.

00:32:34.060 And they were being bullied because they wouldn't check a box.

00:32:36.300 We'll certainly keep in touch with this story.

00:32:38.300 All right.

00:32:38.580 Stay with us.

00:32:39.240 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:32:50.940 I think the prime minister doesn't get it either, Mr. Speaker, and I'll tell you why.

00:32:54.860 Because the prime minister just indicated that raising the price is going to make people take better choices.

00:33:01.280 Now, imagine my surprise when I read today that the prime minister has his food prepared at 24 Sussex

00:33:07.640 and then driven across the street, 700 greater choices, to his residents.

00:33:12.960 How nice.

00:33:13.580 Leadership starts at the top.

00:33:15.960 Is it acceptable, Mr. Speaker, that while he tells families they have to make better choices,

00:33:20.580 he chooses to have his food driven across the street?

00:33:23.340 Is this just do as I say, not as I do?

00:33:25.920 By the honour of the prime minister.

00:33:31.080 Once again, Mr. Speaker, we're seeing the same old, same old from these conservatives.

00:33:36.360 They look for any way to attack politically.

00:33:39.160 But when it actually comes to the issues that matter to Canadians, they do not act.

00:33:43.780 For 10 years, they did nothing on protecting the environment.

00:33:49.220 And what that actually led to is not only did we not protect the environment,

00:33:53.800 but we didn't grow the economy in ways that are sustainable for the future.

00:33:58.440 The lowest growth rate in almost 70 or 80 years, Mr. Speaker, from the Great Depression.

00:34:05.740 That's what the legacy of that government was.

00:34:09.200 I'm not sure if that's an answer to the question of why Justin Trudeau's family

00:34:13.120 has its meals prepared in 24 Sussex Drive,

00:34:17.080 the traditional home given to the first family, as we would call him, prime minister.

00:34:22.340 He doesn't live there.

00:34:23.220 He lives almost a kilometre away at a property that generally belongs to the governor general.

00:34:28.640 But Trudeau, for some reason, wants to stay there.

00:34:30.480 So all the meals are made at 24 Sussex, put in a car and driven 700 meters to the Trudeau's.

00:34:40.080 And then the car drives back.

00:34:41.560 So I guess there's breakfast and then there's lunch and then there's dinner.

00:34:45.260 And it's basically a full-time job driving.

00:34:49.120 And both residences are in full-time operation.

00:34:54.720 So by living in this other residence that was not officially meant for the prime minister,

00:35:01.940 not only was there $2 million put in for new security upgrades,

00:35:05.820 but $827,000 for other improvements that are being kept secret.

00:35:11.460 I don't know.

00:35:11.780 Are those fashionable improvements?

00:35:13.660 Who knows?

00:35:14.640 Joining us now via Skype to talk about this is our friend Manny Mononagrino,

00:35:18.160 who is the principal with Think Sharp.

00:35:20.520 Manny, great to see you.

00:35:21.500 Manny, I assume that as a former conservative activist and a colleague of Stephen Harper's,

00:35:29.720 I think you were the party lawyer for a while,

00:35:32.060 have you ever visited 24 Sussex Drive yourself?

00:35:36.300 Sure I have.

00:35:37.320 And it's not a bad place.

00:35:40.400 It's a great place to live in.

00:35:41.840 Stephen lived in there for nine and a half years.

00:35:45.660 Didn't have problems with it.

00:35:46.980 You know, I want to say that, I mean, I was there in 2014.

00:35:51.400 It was the last time I was there.

00:35:52.960 And I want to tell you my take on what the house looked like.

00:35:57.740 Some of the floorboards were a little creaky.

00:36:01.180 I suppose the carpet could have been changed and a few things freshened up.

00:36:05.360 But it was a gorgeous old home.

00:36:08.380 The grounds were meticulous.

00:36:10.500 The most gorgeous view in the city.

00:36:13.180 It's awesome.

00:36:14.920 And I have no doubt that it could be spruced up and modernized and everything made slick and fancy.

00:36:20.920 And I've seen various plans to renovate it, some of which are in the tens of millions of dollars.

00:36:26.020 But that is a house that 99.99% of Canadians would think,

00:36:31.480 oh my God, this is the most amazing house I've ever been in my life.

00:36:34.780 And yeah, does a stair creak?

00:36:36.520 Sure.

00:36:37.060 But it is, I don't know if luxury is the word, but it is a fine house, but not good enough for Trudeau.

00:36:43.840 No, but Ezra, here's the real question.

00:36:48.000 Trudeau made a decision saying it must be repaired.

00:36:50.920 Let's accept that at face value.

00:36:53.520 And Canadians want their premises repaired, especially the home of the prime minister.

00:36:58.860 So let's accept that as a starting point.

00:37:01.300 He made that decision.

00:37:03.020 There was an 18-month plan to do something.

00:37:05.440 It's now 30 months and nothing has been done.

00:37:08.420 In fact, we're continuing the upkeep of about $300,000 per year.

00:37:14.240 And that includes maintaining the pool.

00:37:16.700 There's a pool being maintained for a family that doesn't live there.

00:37:20.540 Maybe the chef goes into the pool from day to day after he makes his, you know,

00:37:24.860 it's hard when you're cooking and you're slaving over these meticulous meals.

00:37:29.380 Maybe he needs the pool.

00:37:30.620 But the great irony is we're getting it two ways.

00:37:35.320 He goes to Rita Hall.

00:37:36.780 We spend $800,000 for improvements.

00:37:39.300 They don't put it in the kitchen there.

00:37:40.720 I don't know.

00:37:41.460 When you do improvements, the first thing you do is you start with the kitchen.

00:37:44.380 But I guess they don't put it in the kitchen in his home at Rita House.

00:37:48.760 But they maintain the same cost.

00:37:50.940 That's $100,000 a year for heat, hydro, and just keeping the place going.

00:37:56.300 And $300,000 in repairs, maintenance, as you say, just for the chef.

00:38:00.280 So what was not good enough for the prime minister is good enough for the chef of the prime minister.

00:38:05.200 So we're paying $400,000 a year.

00:38:07.280 And it's been 30 months and still nothing done.

00:38:10.560 And he continues to maintain his living on Ritos grounds.

00:38:16.540 I mean, there's so many weird questions here.

00:38:21.200 Like, we know that the Trudeaus hired not one but two nannies.

00:38:26.040 We know this, even though it's a personal matter, because they put those nannies on the government payroll as if that's suddenly a public cost.

00:38:34.300 And, I mean, I know one of the jobs typically that a nanny has is, you know, making lunch for the kids. 1.00

00:38:40.820 But I guess that's not the job for these nannies. 1.00

00:38:44.840 It's because they've got a driver.

00:38:47.240 If you're just driving three meals a day and snacks, I'm not going to call that a full-time job.

00:38:51.960 But you're not going to do an awful lot of other things if you're doing three meals a day and snacks for a family of five plus two nannies.

00:38:59.920 There's a level of luxury and entitlement here that's just so weird.

00:39:03.720 Like, you're right.

00:39:05.300 He's not in a cheaper house.

00:39:08.360 He's in a second house that's an additional house.

00:39:12.620 Nothing here is cheaper.

00:39:13.920 At least the rate's point is this isn't exactly a carbon-friendly lifestyle, a low-carbon choice that the prime minister's hectoring us all to make.

00:39:22.060 And, yeah, that's a good point.

00:39:23.100 But I think the bigger point is, is there no one in the government who says, yeah, boss, having a courier just for your food?

00:39:31.900 That's a bit aristocratic, don't you think?

00:39:35.160 Like, there's no one in the government who says that.

00:39:37.240 You know, if we just think about the cost of the food delivery to the prime minister, we're keeping up a house for $400,000 a year, a chef well over $100,000, the driver probably around $100,000.

00:39:53.160 And we're talking about just for the maintaining of the meals, it's costing $600,000 to $700,000 a year.

00:40:00.980 That's just for the meals.

00:40:02.580 The meals don't have to be cooked at 24 Sussex.

00:40:05.460 They can be cooked where he lives.

00:40:07.740 Now, I'm thinking, I did, you did mention that I had trials where I helped the prime minister, Harper.

00:40:14.360 One was Chefgate.

00:40:15.400 You might remember that.

00:40:16.360 And that was when the chef sued the prime minister, and he had some details about their day-to-day living.

00:40:23.760 Maybe that's what Justin Trudeau is trying to avoid, not having the chef on premises to see what's going on in the home.

00:40:32.420 Well, I don't know, but I mean, if you keep him in one home, your chef in one home, and you keep yourself in another home, you avoid that problem.

00:40:41.280 So it is a luxury that's not afforded to any prime minister.

00:40:46.180 And we're talking about $600,000, $700,000, $800,000 a year just to deliver his meals, or create and deliver his meals from one of the most prestigious properties in Canada.

00:40:57.300 Isn't that an interesting theory?

00:40:59.440 Well, yeah.

00:41:00.440 You know what?

00:41:01.460 That is a – it doesn't make sense in any other way.

00:41:05.060 I mean, of course, their second home has a kitchen, and if it didn't originally, it's been 30 months, as you point out.

00:41:11.500 Of course, it's absurd to have someone driving back and forth all day.

00:41:15.460 But to keep someone out of that family so that they have no other eyes on what they're saying and doing in there, who comes and goes, what – anything.

00:41:26.500 That's what that is, Manny.

00:41:27.800 That – I think your hypothesis – it's a hypothesis that – go ahead.

00:41:32.600 Well, it's a stab in the dark, but I have a second one.

00:41:36.400 And that is I was around as a young lawyer when the Trudeau family lived at 24 Sussex.

00:41:43.260 And it probably wasn't a happy place for Justin for what I read back in the day.

00:41:48.480 And I don't think Justin wants to live at 24 Sussex for the reasons that those at my age and read reports of how the family lived and how the family interacted at that building.

00:42:01.480 It's probably not a friendly place for Justin.

00:42:05.240 So keep the chef there. 0.99

00:42:07.060 Keep the food being cooked.

00:42:08.280 Spend $700,000 and live in another government home.

00:42:11.500 So there's a couple of theories because it makes no sense.

00:42:14.780 No reasonable Canadian would be spending that kind of money on two properties.

00:42:20.780 And his third property, Harrington Lake, that he doesn't visit.

00:42:23.880 I don't know what's happening there.

00:42:25.380 But he has three big homes, one to cook his meals, one to live in.

00:42:29.420 It doesn't make sense unless, you know, you ask questions.

00:42:34.440 Yeah, you were so right.

00:42:35.420 Harrington Lake, it's a beautiful place.

00:42:37.400 It's across the river on the Quebec side.

00:42:41.180 I've seen it from – actually, I visited there once, again, under Stephen Harper's administration.

00:42:46.600 Again, I mean, it's not an absolutely modern place.

00:42:51.200 I don't know what is done with that facility.

00:42:53.960 I've heard rumors that Margaret Trudeau herself lives there.

00:42:56.780 I have no corroboration of that.

00:42:59.020 And, of course, there's silence on official Ottawa.

00:43:02.580 I wonder what that third Trudeau house is up to.

00:43:05.500 Well, that's exactly the question that should be asked.

00:43:08.780 And if you want to tag that with the environmental concerns, the prime minister finds himself jetting around the world, staying in private islands that are owned by lobbyists.

00:43:18.500 And when you jet around the world, you bring everybody with you.

00:43:21.720 Your RCMP detail, it's a very carbon-intensive vacation.

00:43:26.640 Stephen Harper drove to Harrington Lake, the home the Canadians provided to him, and that's where he holidayed.

00:43:32.520 His carbon footprint for vacations were probably one-one-thousandth or one-one-millionth of Justin Trudeau because the Canadians have provided a home for him to vacation.

00:43:45.380 He doesn't go to it.

00:43:46.540 I haven't seen a report that he's gone to Harrington Lake, and that makes you think that maybe someone else is in it.

00:43:52.300 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:43:53.520 He sure loves going to Billionaires Island in the Bahamas, and you're so right that he brings everyone along.

00:43:58.860 And we don't even know because they don't disclose the full passenger manifest on those government jets.

00:44:04.440 We do know, and I think it was your Twitter feed from which I saw this, that Justin Trudeau has taken, what, 55, 54, 55?

00:44:11.380 55, yeah, sure.

00:44:12.520 Foreign trips.

00:44:14.000 Just a staggering number.

00:44:15.760 I was going to say I wish he'd taken that many trips to say the province of Alberta.

00:44:20.000 But on second thought, I hope he doesn't visit Alberta because all that will happen is new carbon taxes will be invented.

00:44:26.940 Manny, it's great to talk to you.

00:44:27.980 Great to talk to you.

00:44:29.440 You always have not only an insight on the news of the day, but you bring back historical references and remind us of things.

00:44:36.060 And you're an excellent resource.

00:44:37.340 Now, you're now being mean.

00:44:40.380 You're telling me that I'm old.

00:44:41.620 No, I'm saying you've got a great memory, and you remember things that connect.

00:44:46.200 And you said so many powerful things today that I had not thought of, and I'm grateful for your time, my friend.

00:44:53.240 Thank you.

00:44:53.820 You take care.

00:44:54.480 Keep up the good work.

00:44:55.400 You too.

00:44:55.700 There's our friend Manny Montanagrino, who, of course, was a former senior advisor to Stephen Harper and is a very keen observer of the new administration.

00:45:04.180 I encourage you to follow him on Twitter.

00:45:06.140 We'll put his Twitter handle on the screen in case you're a Twitter follower and you can look him up.

00:45:11.200 Stay with us.

00:45:12.120 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:45:12.780 Hey, welcome back.

00:45:24.820 On my monologue yesterday about a NAFTA ruling that will cost Canadian taxpayers up to a half a billion dollars because of social license gobbledygook, Merrill writes,

00:45:33.040 Yeah, Canada's looking better every day for foreign investors.

00:45:37.020 Future projects are basically a nada based on current social license because social justice, federal and provincial governments could care less.

00:45:44.880 Add to that numerous projects that have been pulled out or, in this one case, fought back because our provincial and federal governments have simply ripped them off.

00:45:53.260 The current credo?

00:45:54.860 Canada last. 0.55

00:45:55.660 Well, and that's the thing.

00:45:57.540 Do you think that Canada, in this place, Digby Neck in Nova Scotia, is the only place in the world to get stone from a quarry?

00:46:06.240 I mean, they were after a certain kind of stone called basalt.

00:46:08.420 It's a volcanic rock.

00:46:10.380 And yeah, it's great that, I mean, it's sort of amazing someone would pay money for just rocks, but they were putting millions in.

00:46:17.180 And yeah, it's too bad, but they will get their rocks from somewhere else.

00:46:23.460 And it's too bad that Canada won't be pumping oil.

00:46:27.860 It's very too bad that it'll come from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, Venezuela, Iraq instead. 0.96

00:46:32.800 It's too bad that New Brunswick, Nova Scotia will not frack the gas under their very feet.

00:46:37.260 Quebec too.

00:46:38.780 Good news for Pennsylvania, which is fracking up a storm.

00:46:41.720 So when you say it's the opposite of Canada first, it's Canada last, you're not just kidding.

00:46:47.820 How bizarre is it that oil and natural gas for Atlantic Canada is now coming in from the United States?

00:46:57.860 How sad is that?

00:47:00.040 Andy writes, since Digby Neck is a financially strapped area, except for those that hold a lobster license, as is most of rural Nova Scotia,

00:47:07.940 this was a bizarre choice by some vocal locals who prevailed against common sense and NAFTA.

00:47:14.200 Yeah, I think so.

00:47:16.160 Vocal locals, I like the rhyme there.

00:47:18.460 I don't know if they were all locals or if there was some, you know, fancy environmental lobbyists jetting in,

00:47:24.700 as they often do, to whip up the locals and provide political muscle.

00:47:29.500 It could well be that some vocal locals didn't want a stone quarry.

00:47:33.220 But listen, mining has been part of Nova Scotia's heritage for centuries.

00:47:38.660 I haven't looked into it, but it would not surprise me one bit if folks flew in from Halifax, Toronto, even New York City,

00:47:45.420 with the Sierra Club or some other group.

00:47:48.420 It's the Sierra Club that whipped up the riot in Rexton against the fracking.

00:47:52.960 So vocal locals or professional protesters, maybe a combination.

00:47:56.980 On my interview with Catherine Swift about union-sponsored ad against Doug Ford, Robert writes,

00:48:03.460 No big surprise that public sector unions are up to their old tricks, running commercials with earnest female voiceovers, 0.90

00:48:10.100 telling listeners that the civilized world as we know will end unless the liberals are re-elected.

00:48:14.100 Wynn has enriched the unions immensely.

00:48:16.440 Now they're returning the favor.

00:48:17.780 Doug Ford, yeah, you're right.

00:48:19.920 I wonder if this will work this time.

00:48:22.940 I think that the anger and fatigue with Kathleen Wynn, in particular, and the liberals is so high.

00:48:29.300 And judging by, I mean, it's hard to judge, right?

00:48:32.480 Polls are one thing.

00:48:33.540 They suggest a Doug Ford majority.

00:48:35.180 Looking at the organic turnout at grassroots events, especially outside Toronto,

00:48:41.440 Doug Ford is packing them in at his meetings.

00:48:44.760 And then, of course, there's the donations, and Doug Ford and the conservatives are way ahead.

00:48:48.180 Those are three pretty real measures, I think.

00:48:51.360 Let me throw one more thing in about that.

00:48:53.820 We played it yesterday.

00:48:54.900 It was a very short ad, about 30 seconds.

00:48:56.640 It's on Facebook, and it's a bald-faced lie.

00:48:59.260 Stephen Harper did not actually cut health spending in any of his years of prime minister.

00:49:03.960 It increased every single year.

00:49:06.300 Maybe it didn't increase as much as some had wanted or had hoped.

00:49:09.520 But to actually say that, what, $36 billion was cut or whatever the ad lied, it's just factually false.

00:49:15.060 There's no wiggle room for opinion there.

00:49:17.100 The amount spent by Stephen Harper on health care went up every year, full stop.

00:49:21.720 Here's a question for you.

00:49:23.660 Facebook's cracking down on fake news.

00:49:26.920 Are they going to crack down on that pro-liberal left-wing fake news?

00:49:30.760 Yeah.

00:49:31.020 Oh, and by the way, do we know who funded that?

00:49:34.480 Was it funded by Americans?

00:49:35.960 Foreign funding of fake news to alter an election.

00:49:40.040 Yeah, don't kid yourself.

00:49:41.660 Those are fake attacks only used against conservatives.

00:49:44.280 If it's done in the spirit of a liberal attack against a conservative, oh, don't you worry.

00:49:49.480 That's just fine with Facebook.

00:49:51.140 That's our show for today and for the week.

00:49:53.500 We'll have stuff on YouTube all weekend.

00:49:54.960 Of course, I'll be back on Monday.

00:49:56.500 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:50:02.020 All right.

00:50:03.440 All right.

00:50:04.300 To be continued...

00:50:07.820 ourselves.

00:50:08.580 We've got bad ones here.

00:50:10.200 We hope that the world will live in whack.

00:50:11.100 We'll be back.

00:50:12.240 We'll be back on Friday, now.

00:50:12.960 We'll be back on Friday.

00:50:18.820 We'll be back on Friday, now.

00:50:28.960 Thanks.

Rebel News Podcast - May 05, 2018

Ezra Levant Show May 4 2018

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