Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Special interview with the 2025 Rebel News Viewers’ Choice winner

00:00:00.000 Tonight, a feature interview with your winner in the Viewer's Choice Award.

00:00:04.960 It's December 22nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:07.800 You've got it for freedom!

00:00:10.660 Shame on you, you censorious bug! 0.87

00:00:22.300 Well, as you may know, every year we have an internal staff meeting, 0.65

00:00:26.360 and I give out awards to people at Rebel News called the Rebbies. 0.99

00:00:30.720 It's sort of fun. I won't lie.

00:00:32.440 It's a little bit of a knockoff of the Dundees,

00:00:35.720 which is at Dunder Mifflin in the fictitious comedy, The Office.

00:00:40.660 But people take the Rebbies pretty seriously. 0.97

00:00:43.160 I mean, hardest worker, most valuable player.

00:00:46.140 I mean, these are awards that people really value,

00:00:48.220 and I think people look up to within our company at the Rebbe Award winners.

00:00:53.880 You know, we have a variety.

00:00:54.900 It's not just for people who are on TV.

00:00:57.320 For example, our truck driver, he won a Rebbe,

00:01:00.360 and wouldn't you agree with me that he was quite brave,

00:01:02.700 some of the situations he went into.

00:01:04.820 So, yeah, that's a Rebbe winner. 0.99

00:01:07.260 But I make the decisions for all the Rebbies, except for one. 1.00

00:01:12.560 And that one goes to you, our viewers.

00:01:15.320 And we have a voting system that's actually pretty good.

00:01:17.960 I think it's more secure than the Elections Canada system.

00:01:21.420 You have to log in.

00:01:23.160 You're only allowed to vote once.

00:01:25.200 And thousands of people vote.

00:01:27.260 And we have all our on-screen talent, except for me.

00:01:30.400 I take myself off.

00:01:31.260 I like to think, oh, it's because I would win for sure.

00:01:33.680 Or is it because I'm afraid I would lose?

00:01:35.960 I don't know.

00:01:36.600 But I'm not on the ballot.

00:01:38.160 But all of our talent is.

00:01:40.160 And it is so much fun to watch the voting day after day.

00:01:46.120 And for the first few years, I should tell you, Avi Yamini,

00:01:50.200 I mean, a few years ago, he would just crush it.

00:01:53.760 And my theory for that is he had all of Australia voting for him, right?

00:01:58.680 Whereas our Canadian talent, well, they were competing three, four, five,

00:02:02.900 six, seven reporters for the Canadian vote.

00:02:05.240 So I think Avi had a leg up.

00:02:06.940 Plus, let's be honest, he did amazing journalism during the lockdowns from Melbourne,

00:02:11.340 one of the most locked down cities in the world.

00:02:12.960 Well, anyways, the pendulum has swum back to North America.

00:02:17.240 In third place this year was Avi.

00:02:20.080 He did a great job, as always.

00:02:21.860 In second place, our friend David the Menzoid Menz. 0.99

00:02:26.000 He's very brave.

00:02:26.880 He's always out there.

00:02:28.240 And in first place, and I got to say, it wasn't even close.

00:02:31.840 It was very close between second, third, and fourth.

00:02:34.640 Sheila was in fourth.

00:02:35.660 Very close between those.

00:02:37.100 In fact, just, I think, only about 11 votes out of thousands separated those two.

00:02:41.520 It was actually quite stunning to see how close they were.

00:02:44.740 But miles ahead, and I think you can probably guess why,

00:02:49.120 our Rebbe Award winner for the Viewer's Choice Award in 2025

00:02:53.420 is our friend Drea Humphrey, our BC Bureau Chief, who joins us now via Zoom.

00:02:58.800 Drea, congratulations again on winning the People's Choice Award.

00:03:02.080 How much fun is that?

00:03:03.940 You know, it's so much fun.

00:03:05.980 I just look at my colleagues as Canadian heroes,

00:03:08.920 and sometimes I'm just so humbled to be working beside them.

00:03:13.200 So to win the Viewer's Choice, the hearts of the people,

00:03:16.160 it just means so much to me.

00:03:17.880 I had a sneaking suspicion you were going to win,

00:03:20.280 and I'll tell you why.

00:03:21.100 Because I visited you when you were at the ostrich farm.

00:03:25.240 I visited twice.

00:03:25.920 It was only that briefly.

00:03:27.500 I didn't even stay overnight.

00:03:29.060 I just came in, and I got sort of the vibe of the place,

00:03:31.700 and I talked to the families, and I talked.

00:03:33.780 And I saw the connection that you had with people there,

00:03:39.180 the trust and the admiration they had for you,

00:03:41.880 and the gratitude that you were telling their story to the world.

00:03:45.560 And I don't know if you know this,

00:03:47.080 that second only to Tamara Leach and her battle in court, 1.00

00:03:51.400 your stories about the ostrich farm were the second biggest story

00:03:57.260 in Rebel News in all of 2025.

00:04:00.620 And it was a global story.

00:04:02.640 I was far away.

00:04:03.540 I was in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:04:05.700 And someone said, what's up with those ostriches? 1.00

00:04:07.860 And I think that especially in those early days,

00:04:11.880 it was your coverage that really told the story to the world.

00:04:15.280 Wow, that is shocking.

00:04:17.900 I did know it reached, you know, international levels.

00:04:20.960 I had people telling me they heard, you know,

00:04:23.340 family talking about it in Germany,

00:04:25.500 and also I think it was Hong Kong.

00:04:28.380 A lot of people were like,

00:04:29.540 I didn't even know there were ostriches in Canada.

00:04:32.080 I must admit, I was one of those people early last year going,

00:04:36.620 wow, we have a massive ostrich farm.

00:04:39.260 That's interesting.

00:04:39.980 But I think what really was the unifier here

00:04:45.820 is that everybody likes animals.

00:04:48.080 At the very least,

00:04:49.820 we know that if you are sick months,

00:04:52.640 or you were sick months ago, you're not sick now.

00:04:55.260 And so it was something that was nonpartisan.

00:04:57.920 It was something that was just very straightforward

00:05:00.220 where people were going, well, wait a second,

00:05:02.620 why aren't you testing these birds?

00:05:05.280 But it became a concern to me journalistically,

00:05:08.140 even before it had gotten to, you know,

00:05:11.040 the lengthy court battles and all of that as well,

00:05:14.020 because I've seen this pattern

00:05:15.820 where there is more government control on our farms

00:05:20.060 and the farmers who are the experts,

00:05:22.120 especially ostrich farmers,

00:05:24.080 they're certainly the experts,

00:05:25.660 are just not having any say.

00:05:28.960 You know, a few things struck me right away.

00:05:31.320 When I went out to visit,

00:05:32.580 I immediately got the same vibe.

00:05:35.100 I'm using that word vibe a lot.

00:05:36.500 That same feeling, that same group feeling

00:05:39.480 that I had when I was in Ottawa

00:05:41.480 for a couple of days for the trucker convoy in 2022.

00:05:45.660 You could feel that people came

00:05:47.640 from different walks of life on their own.

00:05:50.260 No one coordinated.

00:05:51.560 There was no official political party or corporation.

00:05:55.280 I mean, it was, this was grassroots,

00:05:57.080 authentic people saying something is awry here.

00:06:00.020 Something is amiss.

00:06:00.900 So I had that real people versus the system feeling.

00:06:05.880 And the second thing, and I suppose it's related,

00:06:09.740 is that it echoed the insanity,

00:06:12.780 the public health nonsense

00:06:14.280 that we all live through as humans. 1.00

00:06:16.880 So when we had stupid rules 1.00

00:06:18.900 that were enforced by heartless Kafkaesque bureaucrats, 1.00

00:06:23.060 like six feet of separation.

00:06:24.720 I remember watching a video

00:06:25.800 where someone took a tape measure

00:06:27.640 between two barbershop chairs

00:06:29.540 and it was like two inches short

00:06:31.220 so they wouldn't let the barbershop,

00:06:32.840 like pretend science

00:06:35.200 and that they were using as a sledgehammer.

00:06:37.420 I had that same feeling at the ostrich farm.

00:06:40.300 Public health experts

00:06:41.820 with their white lab coats and clipboards

00:06:45.200 who were saying things

00:06:46.480 that any common sense normal person would say, 1.00

00:06:49.480 you are crazy. 1.00

00:06:50.860 But the crazy people were running the place. 1.00

00:06:54.320 Absolutely.

00:06:55.080 I mean, they showed up not even wearing PPE.

00:06:57.220 It's like they themselves forgot to keep up the show.

00:07:00.400 And then the next days and moving forward,

00:07:02.640 you had the cops, you know, leading on the fence.

00:07:04.780 Nobody was scared of those birds.

00:07:06.500 Everybody knew those birds were healthy.

00:07:08.780 You know, North America and beyond included.

00:07:12.440 And it's, BC gets hit the hardest.

00:07:15.040 BC is an interesting place right now,

00:07:17.080 especially to be a journalist

00:07:18.480 telling the other side of the story.

00:07:20.080 I mean, we have mass callings happening here

00:07:22.820 more than any other province.

00:07:24.800 So this is definitely a BC issue,

00:07:27.340 but it is concerning across the country.

00:07:30.600 Can I share with you one more thing

00:07:32.440 that was a commonality for me?

00:07:34.220 It was the police.

00:07:35.960 And you mentioned that already.

00:07:39.360 I don't know how many police,

00:07:41.200 and I don't know if we'll ever be able to find out

00:07:43.080 exactly how many police were rotated through there

00:07:45.840 because they were there for weeks.

00:07:47.460 That was by far the largest police operation

00:07:50.320 in British Columbia,

00:07:51.060 which, by the way, could probably use some help

00:07:52.860 on other real crimes.

00:07:54.580 And they were at the, you know,

00:07:59.160 they were the servants of these public health bureaucrats.

00:08:02.300 The police were not in charge of themselves.

00:08:06.120 They were like auxiliaries to the health cops.

00:08:09.360 And for a while, they were sort of friendly,

00:08:12.200 but then they became a little bit,

00:08:14.160 I'm not going to say abusive,

00:08:15.740 but taunting and provocative.

00:08:17.460 I don't think the police handled themselves creditably.

00:08:21.440 And there was so much effort and expense

00:08:24.000 going to stop journalism,

00:08:25.760 the anti-drone systems,

00:08:28.480 building these massive walls out of hay bales.

00:08:31.780 None of it made sense from a health point of view.

00:08:34.160 It was all about stopping journalism.

00:08:36.660 When you were spending what's got to have been

00:08:38.740 millions of dollars to stop journalism,

00:08:41.660 you're giving it away.

00:08:44.980 You're doing something that you're ashamed of.

00:08:47.500 If you're not ashamed of it,

00:08:48.660 why are you going to such lengths to hide it?

00:08:50.780 And for the police to be politicized by that,

00:08:52.740 all these things were resonating through this story,

00:08:56.560 at least for me.

00:08:58.260 Well, I think you're right.

00:08:59.400 Will we ever get the answer to these things?

00:09:01.520 Of course, I'm working very hard on doing that,

00:09:03.520 but I just did a report after MP Scott Anderson

00:09:07.380 with the Conservatives did an order paper in question

00:09:09.960 saying how much money,

00:09:11.900 how much tax dollars were spent on this by the CFIA,

00:09:16.260 every penny he wanted to know,

00:09:18.280 and also the RCMP.

00:09:19.820 And of course they hid the numbers as best they could.

00:09:23.420 They only told us close to a million.

00:09:25.480 They did not tell us anything about salary,

00:09:28.540 overtime, you know,

00:09:30.360 the cost for the marksmen or anything like that.

00:09:33.080 But perhaps we could have put things together

00:09:35.380 if we had known how much they paid for salary and overtime. 0.72

00:09:38.740 But it's in the millions,

00:09:40.540 clearly staying there for close to 50 days.

00:09:42.920 The RCMP absolutely became an arm of the CFIA in many ways.

00:09:47.720 I remember being shocked when I found out that,

00:09:52.180 I don't know why I didn't know this,

00:09:53.720 but the bureaucrats were the ones 0.96

00:09:55.480 who were telling the RCMP to do the arrests.

00:09:58.100 And we know that because when the neighbor was saying,

00:10:01.120 can I please get onto my property

00:10:02.640 without being treated like a criminal,

00:10:04.980 that neighbor was texted by the RCMP liaison saying,

00:10:09.320 hey, just make sure you email the CFIA

00:10:11.500 before you walk on your own property

00:10:13.260 because we don't want them to authorize your arrest as well.

00:10:17.000 Oh my God.

00:10:18.380 It was like, I cannot believe this.

00:10:20.500 And you mentioned the other crimes

00:10:21.860 that they could be dealing with.

00:10:23.520 I mean, these officers,

00:10:25.560 I would say anywhere from 60 to 100 per day,

00:10:30.300 depending on, you know,

00:10:31.640 what level of stage of this whole standoff was.

00:10:35.360 These officers came from all across BC.

00:10:38.600 I know that for sure, including Surrey,

00:10:41.080 where just this year alone,

00:10:43.320 we've had over a hundred extortion cases

00:10:46.960 where people, most of those are gun violence,

00:10:50.640 illegal gun owner violence,

00:10:52.580 where they're just blasting up businesses and houses.

00:10:54.940 And you're going to tell me

00:10:55.900 you're going to send officers to stand at a farm

00:10:59.680 so that the farmers, what, don't feed their animals?

00:11:02.320 Like it was insane.

00:11:04.860 Yeah.

00:11:05.240 You know, I remember I was driving home.

00:11:07.760 I was driving from the ostrich farm

00:11:09.660 down to the airport.

00:11:11.180 And I saw this one, two, three, four, five

00:11:13.880 of this caravan of cops coming in.

00:11:15.620 I thought, oh, is the raid going on?

00:11:17.300 No, they were just changing shifts.

00:11:19.640 There was like,

00:11:20.440 I don't know if they had two or three shifts a day,

00:11:23.040 but, and they were all staying in hotels

00:11:25.440 and they were all getting overtime

00:11:26.960 and per diems and meals.

00:11:28.280 And like, it was the largest logistical operation

00:11:31.440 the police had in the province.

00:11:33.020 You know what?

00:11:33.380 I could tell it was wearing on some of the cops

00:11:36.060 because they deployed the chaplain.

00:11:38.500 And the chaplain, of course, is a,

00:11:39.880 is a religious cleric who is there generally

00:11:42.120 to help through stressful situations,

00:11:44.340 to help with morale, to help, you know,

00:11:47.360 just to help when the guys and gals

00:11:50.220 are down in the dumps.

00:11:51.380 They must have had a psychologically hard time

00:11:54.120 going to war against a farm

00:11:57.720 if they needed to call in the chaplain.

00:11:59.640 What do you think?

00:12:00.240 My understanding of why the chaplain was called

00:12:03.920 was because there,

00:12:05.620 there had been a supporter who passed away

00:12:07.880 named Tom and he passed away on the property,

00:12:11.260 which of course was devastating for everybody there.

00:12:14.260 And Tom was living there every day.

00:12:16.600 He was an elderly man and he passed away.

00:12:20.120 And so I understand they brought the chaplain for that reason.

00:12:23.440 But after they slaughtered the birds,

00:12:27.900 the farmers were asking for the chaplain to return.

00:12:32.120 They were actually begging for someone to come there

00:12:35.300 and deal with the trauma that was happening

00:12:37.600 after that traumatic night of going through,

00:12:40.740 I don't know, 600 to 1,000 gunshots,

00:12:44.160 riddling the devastation and seeing what took place

00:12:46.800 of these healthy animals that everybody had come to support.

00:12:50.260 And it was nothing.

00:12:51.120 And they kept saying,

00:12:51.880 I don't understand why you guys,

00:12:53.520 like we really, really need this.

00:12:55.720 And they wouldn't do that.

00:12:57.760 Thank you, by the way, for clarifying.

00:12:59.940 I think I misunderstood the chaplain's presence,

00:13:02.180 but you've cleared that up for me.

00:13:03.560 I appreciate that.

00:13:04.180 Now, of course, the birds are gone,

00:13:07.980 but the story still remains to be fully told.

00:13:12.800 Now, Rebel News is commissioning a documentary.

00:13:16.300 Tell us a little bit about that.

00:13:17.880 And I know there's some folks

00:13:18.940 who have been following every bit of this story.

00:13:21.380 They'll want to know more about it,

00:13:22.780 including how they can support it.

00:13:24.340 Just give us two minutes on the documentary we're planning.

00:13:27.720 And then I want to ask you about what's going on

00:13:29.340 in BC politics in general,

00:13:31.200 because it's sort of crazy out there now.

00:13:32.380 But tell me before we do that,

00:13:34.480 a little bit more about the documentary.

00:13:36.240 What's it called?

00:13:38.120 Well, the documentary,

00:13:39.600 we haven't launched the full name yet.

00:13:41.660 So you can find all the information

00:13:43.320 at ostrichfarmdocumentary.com.

00:13:46.220 And we actually have something exciting

00:13:48.080 to come about the name.

00:13:49.260 So, but what I want to-

00:13:51.080 Don't give it away now then.

00:13:52.100 So I didn't mean to make you-

00:13:53.580 No worries, no worries.

00:13:54.420 Give a spoiler.

00:13:55.260 No good.

00:13:56.480 Hold back the secret till it's ready.

00:13:58.660 Yes, no worries.

00:14:00.400 But I just want to take everybody back

00:14:02.160 to that next morning.

00:14:03.820 And even myself, you know,

00:14:05.220 it was a long drive for me to go home.

00:14:06.700 So my plan was,

00:14:08.520 I was going to, you know,

00:14:09.540 stick around and just kind of,

00:14:11.920 you know, see what was going on with the people.

00:14:14.060 It was so-

00:14:15.880 I've never seen or felt anything like it.

00:14:18.500 It was just so gut-wrenching

00:14:21.840 to look at those empty fields

00:14:23.640 and to know what happened.

00:14:25.080 And so what I'm getting at is

00:14:27.420 I felt so angry

00:14:30.120 and it wasn't even my animals.

00:14:32.840 And so I keep saying this,

00:14:35.160 hell hath no fury like a journalist scorned

00:14:37.820 because I did everything I could

00:14:39.920 to get the story out,

00:14:41.400 to get the truth out,

00:14:42.460 to get that there was no scientific reason,

00:14:45.100 there was no risk to kill these animals.

00:14:47.080 So now I want to get my revenge.

00:14:50.300 And I know many are in support

00:14:53.000 of avenging the ostriches

00:14:54.520 and what's happened.

00:14:55.720 And so we, myself and Sid Fitzard,

00:14:59.100 who's going to help me produce this,

00:15:00.780 we're going to do that together.

00:15:01.920 We are already working very hard.

00:15:04.440 So you're going to see some stuff

00:15:06.260 that you didn't see

00:15:07.040 because let's face it,

00:15:08.000 it was just nonstop.

00:15:09.600 So we couldn't get everything out.

00:15:11.220 So you're also going to see,

00:15:13.140 obviously, the fruits of our investigation

00:15:15.040 into the CFIA,

00:15:16.800 into the policy of what went wrong,

00:15:18.560 not just here,

00:15:19.420 but what's been happening for decades

00:15:21.480 to farms that don't stand up

00:15:23.900 against the state

00:15:24.760 when it comes to this stuff.

00:15:26.040 We're really going to go really hard

00:15:27.720 on these issues.

00:15:28.540 We can't do any of that without you.

00:15:30.300 We've already obtained

00:15:32.220 a very important interview to that

00:15:35.120 that I think people might have thought

00:15:36.940 we wouldn't have been able to get.

00:15:38.760 So we're already rolling on that.

00:15:40.880 And again,

00:15:41.440 nothing is possible without you guys.

00:15:42.980 So Ostrich Farm documentary

00:15:44.280 is how you can keep us going.

00:15:47.180 We've already traveled for it.

00:15:48.500 We're going to continue to do so

00:15:49.860 into the new year.

00:15:51.000 So it's going to be good.

00:15:52.800 I think that's going to be,

00:15:53.900 a lot of people are going to want to watch that.

00:15:55.860 Hey, let me just,

00:15:56.560 before we move on,

00:15:57.100 I want to talk about other BC things,

00:15:58.640 but I had one very small question

00:16:02.660 that I could put

00:16:05.440 to the federal health minister.

00:16:07.160 This whole operation

00:16:08.100 was under the jurisdiction

00:16:09.220 of the health department.

00:16:11.620 And the new health minister,

00:16:14.520 Marjorie Michelle is her name,

00:16:16.160 was in Alberta

00:16:18.200 at a joint event

00:16:19.500 with the Alberta government.

00:16:20.620 And although the federal government

00:16:22.020 never accredits us as journalists,

00:16:24.200 the Alberta government does.

00:16:25.760 So I called up my friends in Alberta.

00:16:27.780 I said, look, can I come to Calgary?

00:16:29.840 I'd like to put a question

00:16:30.920 to the federal health minister.

00:16:32.520 And they checked

00:16:34.220 and we got it cleared.

00:16:36.940 So I went to this press conference.

00:16:38.860 Normally, Rebel News is kicked out

00:16:40.100 by the Liberals.

00:16:41.020 And I got in line early

00:16:42.920 and I put what I thought

00:16:44.220 was a friendly question.

00:16:46.420 Frankly, it was a softball question.

00:16:49.680 And before I asked it,

00:16:50.940 I even said something nice

00:16:52.380 about the Liberals.

00:16:53.180 I said, thanks for accrediting me.

00:16:54.560 I thought it was a good question.

00:16:57.240 But the way they non-answered

00:16:59.860 was so stark.

00:17:01.120 I didn't even know

00:17:01.620 what was going on at first.

00:17:02.620 I thought maybe I had a translation problem

00:17:04.760 because she's French

00:17:05.820 as her native language.

00:17:06.760 Let me show the video

00:17:07.960 of me asking

00:17:09.520 what I thought was a good question

00:17:11.460 and the non-response.

00:17:14.300 By the way,

00:17:14.980 the non-response was so shocking.

00:17:16.780 This video got 1 million views on X.

00:17:20.700 Take a look.

00:17:21.380 Thank you, Minister,

00:17:22.540 for agreeing to accredit Rebel News.

00:17:24.320 I very much appreciate

00:17:25.160 your dedication

00:17:25.980 to freedom of the press.

00:17:28.040 I have a question

00:17:28.880 about the ostrich farm.

00:17:30.300 Now, don't worry,

00:17:30.720 I'm not going to ask

00:17:31.300 about the lawsuit

00:17:32.080 because I don't want you

00:17:33.240 to talk about anything

00:17:34.580 that are before the courts.

00:17:36.480 But there was a letter

00:17:37.520 and I noticed in the statement

00:17:38.720 you talk about Canada-U.S. cooperation.

00:17:41.800 I know that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,

00:17:43.660 your U.S. counterpart,

00:17:45.360 has written saying

00:17:46.660 he thinks that there's

00:17:48.080 some medical research value

00:17:49.660 in these ostriches 0.96

00:17:50.480 because they had avian flu

00:17:51.860 but then have recovered

00:17:54.040 and they're now immune.

00:17:55.640 In fact, he's offered

00:17:56.680 to do the research

00:17:57.840 and even to pay for it.

00:17:59.900 It seems to me

00:18:01.300 that we need allies

00:18:02.760 around Trump's cabinet table.

00:18:05.120 And if you could throw him a bone

00:18:06.940 and say,

00:18:07.520 sure,

00:18:08.200 Secretary Kennedy,

00:18:09.740 you can study these birds.

00:18:11.520 It's sort of no skin

00:18:12.280 off Canada's nose.

00:18:13.400 And don't you think

00:18:14.220 it would be helpful

00:18:14.820 to have an ally

00:18:16.580 in Trump's cabinet

00:18:17.820 when we're doing

00:18:18.620 our trade negotiations?

00:18:19.720 That's my question.

00:18:23.720 Don't you think

00:18:24.280 it would be helpful

00:18:24.840 to have a friend?

00:18:25.400 Next reporter.

00:18:26.260 Merci.

00:18:30.940 Oh, you're not going to answer,

00:18:32.560 Minister?

00:18:33.520 Prochaine question.

00:18:34.420 Merci.

00:18:35.360 I don't understand.

00:18:36.400 Did I do something wrong?

00:18:37.780 Next question.

00:18:38.680 Thank you.

00:18:41.520 Minister, did I miss an answer?

00:18:43.540 I don't get it.

00:18:45.280 Okay.

00:18:45.900 I'll sit down.

00:18:47.060 I guess it's question period,

00:18:50.020 not answer period.

00:18:51.020 Merci beaucoup.

00:18:51.860 Now, look,

00:18:52.460 I'm not saying

00:18:53.100 that I'm an important person

00:18:54.920 and that I must be answered to you.

00:18:57.580 But if you accredit me

00:18:59.400 at a press conference

00:19:00.280 and know I'm coming

00:19:01.240 and you get

00:19:01.920 a simple,

00:19:03.280 straightforward question like that,

00:19:05.320 I think it behooves

00:19:06.840 a cabinet minister

00:19:07.740 of a democratic country

00:19:08.800 to say something,

00:19:09.680 even to say I can't answer

00:19:11.520 or let me think about it

00:19:13.000 or I'll get back,

00:19:13.540 like just to say something,

00:19:14.620 but just to stay there

00:19:15.820 stunned and refusing

00:19:17.620 to say a word,

00:19:18.780 to me that summed up everything.

00:19:21.280 The haughty attitude,

00:19:22.680 we don't have to answer,

00:19:24.240 who are you? 0.99

00:19:24.980 You're just some grubby person. 0.99

00:19:27.600 Leave the thinking to us 0.99

00:19:29.760 and you just go,

00:19:30.580 like it was so high-handed.

00:19:32.840 It was a really weird moment.

00:19:35.060 What did you think of that?

00:19:36.640 Well, you had asked that question

00:19:37.940 like Mr. Rogers.

00:19:39.540 Yeah, that's right.

00:19:41.080 You couldn't have asked it

00:19:42.100 any friendlier

00:19:42.840 and you laid the groundwork.

00:19:44.640 You said something

00:19:45.840 so that she couldn't say,

00:19:47.280 oh, this matters

00:19:47.800 before the courts

00:19:48.640 and you gave her

00:19:49.820 a very clear path

00:19:51.420 on what you were asking,

00:19:52.840 you know,

00:19:53.120 during this time,

00:19:54.160 why don't we have a friend,

00:19:56.180 an ally over this situation

00:19:57.480 and you were snubbed.

00:19:58.540 That means the people were snubbed.

00:20:00.060 Your question was valid.

00:20:01.840 It's something the public

00:20:02.980 wants to hear.

00:20:04.080 Even non-liberals

00:20:05.520 want to hear it

00:20:06.300 and she's snubbing it.

00:20:07.580 So it makes her feel horrible.

00:20:09.180 I can't help but be reminded

00:20:10.700 of the smugness

00:20:11.700 of Jagmeet Singh

00:20:12.660 during the election debate

00:20:13.840 where I did the same thing.

00:20:15.540 I laid out the facts.

00:20:16.840 I asked a very valid question

00:20:18.740 that many Canadians,

00:20:20.500 including some from his own,

00:20:22.500 you know,

00:20:23.600 his own following

00:20:24.740 that say they stand against hate,

00:20:26.600 might want to know the answer to.

00:20:28.320 And so when you take

00:20:29.200 that arrogant, 0.93

00:20:30.200 entitled, 0.99

00:20:31.300 you know,

00:20:32.620 stature

00:20:33.080 that they've been getting away with,

00:20:34.680 it's not flying as easy anymore

00:20:36.640 because I don't think

00:20:37.900 they realize

00:20:39.020 how strong

00:20:40.580 the independent news voice is

00:20:42.540 and how many people

00:20:43.440 are waiting to hear

00:20:45.440 what answers

00:20:46.480 they're going to get

00:20:47.500 to our questions.

00:20:48.280 Yeah.

00:20:48.900 You know,

00:20:49.500 you make me remember

00:20:50.360 that, of course,

00:20:51.280 you got a lot of votes

00:20:52.560 for the ostrich story,

00:20:53.680 but you had,

00:20:55.720 in the same manner,

00:20:57.160 a very successful question

00:20:58.960 to Jagmeet Singh

00:20:59.900 that, like me,

00:21:01.000 you got no answer,

00:21:02.940 but like my non-answer,

00:21:04.600 your non-answer

00:21:05.380 actually revealed quite a bit.

00:21:07.220 Let's just watch that moment.

00:21:08.500 And by the way,

00:21:09.020 I was there.

00:21:09.760 I was just a few feet away from you.

00:21:11.900 And one thing

00:21:12.740 that the official microphone

00:21:13.960 did not pick up

00:21:15.200 was the booing

00:21:16.780 and the heckling

00:21:17.600 by rival journalists

00:21:20.580 for the regime media.

00:21:22.500 It was just shocking to me

00:21:25.080 that other journalists

00:21:26.460 would be booing you.

00:21:27.760 Here's your question

00:21:28.900 to Jagmeet Singh.

00:21:29.980 And his disgraceful non-answer.

00:21:31.780 Take a look.

00:21:32.620 Hello, Mr. Singh.

00:21:33.840 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:21:35.900 Your party takes great pride

00:21:37.300 in standing against hate

00:21:38.600 such as white supremacy,

00:21:40.040 Islamophobia,

00:21:40.900 and online...

00:21:41.060 Sorry, I didn't get your outlet.

00:21:43.260 Drea Humphrey with Rebel News.

00:21:44.720 Okay.

00:21:45.780 Your party...

00:21:46.320 You know where I'm going

00:21:46.660 to go with this, though, right?

00:21:48.620 Can I speak?

00:21:49.540 Yeah, you can.

00:21:50.060 I'm just going to say

00:21:50.560 you know where I'm going

00:21:51.040 to go with it, though.

00:21:51.660 Wow.

00:21:52.060 Your party takes pride

00:21:53.400 in standing against hate 0.60

00:21:54.640 such as white supremacy,

00:21:56.240 Islamophobia,

00:21:57.080 and online hate speech.

00:21:58.400 Yet you stay silent

00:22:00.200 about ongoing attacks

00:22:01.620 against Christians, 0.92

00:22:03.000 even after Conservative MP

00:22:04.600 Jamil Javani's

00:22:05.720 order paper question

00:22:06.920 revealed that over 200 churches

00:22:08.920 have been targeted

00:22:09.980 by arson and vandalism

00:22:11.700 since claims of remains

00:22:13.560 being discovered

00:22:14.320 at former residential schools

00:22:15.800 swept the nation in 2021.

00:22:17.560 These claims have been disproven

00:22:20.540 by bans that excavated

00:22:22.100 and remain unproven

00:22:23.860 by those that have not.

00:22:26.120 Will you condemn

00:22:27.120 the rise in acts of hate

00:22:28.760 against Christians today 1.00

00:22:30.040 and explain what your party

00:22:31.940 will do moving forward

00:22:33.680 to keep Christians safe

00:22:35.320 from hate in Canada?

00:22:37.500 Again, thank you,

00:22:38.520 but I'm not going to respond

00:22:39.340 to an organization

00:22:40.140 that promotes misinformation

00:22:42.100 and disinformation

00:22:43.280 like Rebel News,

00:22:44.140 so no, I'm not going to respond

00:22:44.940 to your question.

00:22:45.740 Wow.

00:22:46.020 What she said

00:22:46.520 had no misinformation in it.

00:22:49.940 Perhaps you didn't hear me.

00:22:52.380 Over 200 Christian places

00:22:54.080 of worship

00:22:54.600 have been attacked

00:22:55.440 in Canada since 2021.

00:22:57.400 Many served First Nations

00:22:58.780 communities,

00:23:00.420 many were historic,

00:23:02.040 and they diverted

00:23:02.920 police and resources

00:23:05.760 and put others at risk.

00:23:07.660 What do you say

00:23:08.420 to Canadians

00:23:09.000 who see your refusal

00:23:10.120 to answer,

00:23:10.920 especially from one

00:23:11.840 of the few media outlets

00:23:13.240 here that are not funded

00:23:14.340 by the state,

00:23:15.240 as proof that a vote for you

00:23:17.480 is a vote for a dangerous

00:23:19.460 radical party

00:23:20.340 that gaslights the public

00:23:21.520 into thinking

00:23:22.160 it stands against hate

00:23:23.380 when its silence

00:23:24.720 is instead emboldening

00:23:26.180 Christophobia?

00:23:27.920 Your question

00:23:28.840 is another example

00:23:29.880 of why I don't respond

00:23:30.900 to agencies like Rebel News

00:23:32.540 that promote misinformation

00:23:34.000 and disinformation.

00:23:34.980 I was so proud

00:23:35.940 of your dignity there,

00:23:37.380 and it was so cringed

00:23:39.780 the non-answer.

00:23:40.940 What made it worse,

00:23:41.940 if I may,

00:23:42.620 was when Rosemary Barton,

00:23:43.820 the CBC pundit,

00:23:45.460 was watching

00:23:46.300 and she thought

00:23:46.920 she would give an answer

00:23:48.240 that Jagmeet Singh couldn't

00:23:49.400 by saying,

00:23:50.080 you were wrong

00:23:51.480 about the buried graves.

00:23:55.580 Here's Rosemary Barton 1.00

00:23:56.720 trafficking in misinformation.

00:23:59.900 Take a quick look.

00:24:01.200 I think we have to

00:24:02.140 sort of address

00:24:02.780 the elephant in the room.

00:24:04.300 How are these people

00:24:05.940 chosen to answer

00:24:07.360 these questions?

00:24:08.000 And I don't know

00:24:08.400 if either one of you

00:24:09.060 have an answer for that,

00:24:10.120 but I think there will be

00:24:10.920 people at home saying,

00:24:12.220 some of these seem

00:24:12.780 like odd questions,

00:24:13.840 some of them

00:24:14.140 aren't getting answered.

00:24:15.400 How come we've heard

00:24:16.160 so often from

00:24:17.040 this one particular outlet?

00:24:18.700 Any idea what's going on there?

00:24:19.760 There's three right-wing,

00:24:22.320 very right-wing media,

00:24:24.800 we can call them media,

00:24:25.820 websites that are present

00:24:26.940 in there.

00:24:28.300 They get in line

00:24:28.860 to ask a question

00:24:29.600 like anybody else.

00:24:30.900 Their accreditation

00:24:31.700 has been approved

00:24:32.480 by the Commission of Debates,

00:24:34.200 and so they get the right

00:24:35.660 to stand in line

00:24:36.440 and ask a question

00:24:37.420 that they choose to ask.

00:24:39.440 In this case,

00:24:40.260 you saw Mr. Singh,

00:24:41.300 and this has been

00:24:41.920 his position for some time,

00:24:43.320 to refuse to answer questions.

00:24:45.300 Rebel news in particular,

00:24:46.660 traffics in misinformation,

00:24:48.560 facts, lack of facts,

00:24:50.520 and as you heard

00:24:51.700 in that question,

00:24:52.540 which was woven

00:24:53.900 with some truth

00:24:54.900 and some things

00:24:55.860 that weren't true.

00:24:56.700 Yes, there have been

00:24:57.500 burnings of Christian 1.00

00:24:59.140 Catholic churches.

00:25:00.200 Yes, there have been

00:25:01.920 remains of Indigenous children

00:25:03.480 found in various places

00:25:05.500 around the country,

00:25:06.320 which she misrepresented.

00:25:07.980 We'll see if Mr. Poiliev

00:25:08.820 gets any questions

00:25:09.700 from right-wing organizations.

00:25:11.080 I would suspect no.

00:25:12.080 Okay, all right,

00:25:12.980 let's have a listen.

00:25:14.120 Yeah, she later 1.00

00:25:15.100 had to make a correction.

00:25:16.340 You were right.

00:25:18.080 I don't know.

00:25:18.800 I think that that,

00:25:20.500 in both cases,

00:25:21.680 my question and your question,

00:25:22.660 we didn't get

00:25:23.120 an actual answer,

00:25:24.420 but what we did get,

00:25:26.220 I think, spoke volumes.

00:25:28.200 Absolutely.

00:25:28.640 Again, the people

00:25:29.840 just want to know

00:25:30.800 the answers

00:25:31.340 to these questions.

00:25:32.420 And when they see this,

00:25:33.560 they go,

00:25:33.860 oh my gosh,

00:25:34.580 who's Rebel News?

00:25:35.920 Why didn't they

00:25:36.660 answer that question?

00:25:37.440 It actually makes them

00:25:38.500 start to critically think,

00:25:39.920 like, what is going on here?

00:25:41.880 So it definitely

00:25:42.540 does them a disservice.

00:25:44.180 Well, I was so proud

00:25:45.480 of our whole Rebel team there.

00:25:47.200 It was such an important moment.

00:25:48.800 And by the way,

00:25:50.200 some credit belongs

00:25:51.080 to our lawyers

00:25:51.760 who had to sort of

00:25:52.880 blast our way in.

00:25:54.580 We had to go to court

00:25:55.640 twice in 2019

00:25:56.960 and then again in 2021

00:25:58.180 beat them twice

00:26:01.040 so that by 2025

00:26:02.680 they no longer

00:26:04.020 tried to bar us.

00:26:06.000 It was quite an incredible,

00:26:07.200 I had a lot of fun too

00:26:09.280 hanging out with you guys.

00:26:10.600 It was fun journalistically

00:26:12.740 because we were like a team,

00:26:14.280 but it was also frustrating.

00:26:15.640 Hey, let me switch gears.

00:26:16.580 I want to ask you

00:26:17.120 one more thing

00:26:17.780 about British Columbia.

00:26:19.420 And I love British Columbia,

00:26:20.840 but I'm far away

00:26:21.660 here in Toronto

00:26:22.440 and BC is sometimes

00:26:24.240 its own world.

00:26:25.380 It doesn't pay so much attention

00:26:27.000 to Toronto and vice versa.

00:26:28.720 So help us understand

00:26:30.140 what's going on with,

00:26:32.000 we know the NDP, 0.61

00:26:33.160 they're atrocious as always.

00:26:34.940 What's up with the BC Conservatives, 0.51

00:26:37.380 the 1BC?

00:26:39.300 There's all these splinters.

00:26:40.980 Help me understand,

00:26:42.100 is it a disaster?

00:26:44.040 It is a disaster.

00:26:45.480 It is a disaster.

00:26:46.360 And of course,

00:26:46.800 I read some of the comments

00:26:48.080 about people who said

00:26:49.100 they were voting for me.

00:26:50.260 Of course,

00:26:50.800 a lot was because

00:26:51.520 of the ostrich,

00:26:52.220 but a lot of them

00:26:53.140 were also talking about

00:26:54.600 some of the stuff,

00:26:55.940 you know,

00:26:56.560 with my coverage of 1BC

00:26:57.800 and them going out

00:26:58.680 at the universities

00:26:59.540 and things like this.

00:27:01.140 So, so much has been happening

00:27:02.980 in British Columbia

00:27:03.760 and they also mentioned

00:27:04.820 the coverage

00:27:05.620 on the land grab threat.

00:27:07.800 Right, right.

00:27:08.360 So this is something

00:27:09.240 that I've been sort of

00:27:10.360 speaking to journalistically

00:27:11.780 for close to

00:27:13.600 when I first started,

00:27:14.720 but to see it unravel

00:27:15.880 in real time

00:27:16.820 and actually to see

00:27:18.200 that it was already in place

00:27:19.480 is quite shocking.

00:27:21.280 So politically,

00:27:23.760 I mean,

00:27:24.240 where do you start?

00:27:25.740 So we had the election,

00:27:28.200 let's not forget,

00:27:29.820 where it was almost a tie

00:27:31.020 between the rising star

00:27:33.780 BC conservatives.

00:27:35.020 They went from nothing

00:27:35.960 to almost winning

00:27:37.760 the government

00:27:38.540 for the first time,

00:27:39.180 I think in 100 years

00:27:40.160 or something like that.

00:27:41.680 And then, you know,

00:27:43.180 we just saw one by one

00:27:45.040 sort of at first

00:27:45.780 it was their more conservative

00:27:47.160 MLAs getting kicked out 1.00

00:27:49.200 or leaving.

00:27:50.140 And that was, of course,

00:27:50.960 Dallas Brody

00:27:51.740 and then Tara Armstrong

00:27:53.440 and Jordan Healy.

00:27:54.480 And then we saw

00:27:55.180 sort of the ones

00:27:56.060 that were quite leftist

00:27:57.780 get kicked out

00:27:58.840 of the party more recently.

00:28:00.000 So they are kind of,

00:28:01.480 the Conservative Party

00:28:02.260 has been losing confidence

00:28:04.560 in the people

00:28:05.240 to the point

00:28:05.860 that their own MLAs,

00:28:07.700 you know,

00:28:08.080 wanted John Rustad out.

00:28:10.960 I think I was

00:28:11.880 the first journalist,

00:28:13.020 I suppose,

00:28:13.460 on the Conservative side

00:28:15.000 to do a critical piece

00:28:16.540 of John Rustad

00:28:17.380 months ago

00:28:18.140 after the AGM

00:28:19.100 and the shenanigans

00:28:20.560 that took place there.

00:28:21.720 I sort of exposed

00:28:22.640 some things

00:28:23.620 that certainly

00:28:24.100 seemed unethical there.

00:28:26.080 So John Rustad's out,

00:28:28.340 Trevor Helford is in,

00:28:29.880 he seems to be doing good

00:28:31.060 as an interim leader

00:28:32.120 for now,

00:28:32.720 but who the heck

00:28:33.660 is going to be

00:28:34.320 the next leader?

00:28:35.280 Then you have

00:28:35.740 the Splinter Party

00:28:36.720 or you had

00:28:37.440 the Splinter Party

00:28:38.380 or I don't know

00:28:38.900 if we still have

00:28:39.600 the Splinter Party,

00:28:41.320 that is 1BC.

00:28:42.700 And so that was led

00:28:44.760 by Dallas Brody

00:28:46.780 and side-by-side

00:28:48.200 with Tara Armstrong

00:28:48.880 and they were making

00:28:49.660 some big moves

00:28:50.640 in the sense that

00:28:51.420 you had this

00:28:52.360 two-person party

00:28:54.000 but they were making noise

00:28:55.880 and they were speaking

00:28:57.100 to issues

00:28:57.800 that British Columbians

00:28:58.860 actually care about

00:28:59.800 and are tired

00:29:00.500 of being called racist about

00:29:01.820 and that, of course,

00:29:03.100 was them exposing

00:29:04.960 the false 215 claim

00:29:08.320 and starting off with that

00:29:09.760 and then when

00:29:10.220 the land grab came,

00:29:11.340 well, who had the respect

00:29:12.440 on that conversation?

00:29:14.440 And let's remind you

00:29:15.440 that Kamloops,

00:29:16.600 where that false claim

00:29:18.180 came from,

00:29:18.760 well, the whole city

00:29:19.820 of Kamloops

00:29:20.500 is being claimed

00:29:21.420 for Aboriginal title

00:29:22.420 as well.

00:29:22.960 It's not just part

00:29:23.720 of Richmond,

00:29:24.200 it's the entire city

00:29:25.200 of Kamloops.

00:29:26.100 So they became

00:29:27.060 an authority

00:29:27.980 in that for many people

00:29:29.940 building trusts

00:29:31.520 who didn't want

00:29:32.260 to be called racist

00:29:33.040 to be concerned

00:29:33.960 about what's happening

00:29:35.000 with their land

00:29:35.720 and then they dropped

00:29:36.860 that documentary.

00:29:38.020 They dropped that

00:29:38.940 Making a Killing documentary

00:29:40.380 and it went viral.

00:29:42.200 Millions of views

00:29:43.140 on X.

00:29:43.840 Last I checked,

00:29:44.640 I think 400,000 views

00:29:46.280 on YouTube.

00:29:48.280 And so they were

00:29:50.900 doing as good

00:29:51.820 as you could

00:29:52.420 as a two-person

00:29:54.060 breakaway party

00:29:55.200 and then boom,

00:29:56.500 overnight last weekend

00:29:58.020 they completely imploded.

00:30:00.320 And so I've done

00:30:01.240 a report with a timeline.

00:30:03.240 I was up at like

00:30:03.920 one in the morning

00:30:04.640 looking at their text

00:30:05.620 fights going off

00:30:06.460 and I was like,

00:30:07.060 oh my gosh,

00:30:07.880 what is happening?

00:30:09.180 And of course,

00:30:09.660 I did a sit down

00:30:10.440 with Dallas Brody

00:30:11.320 who was abruptly

00:30:13.740 kicked out

00:30:15.260 by her own board

00:30:16.620 out of the party

00:30:17.480 and then she's been

00:30:18.200 fighting to get

00:30:18.840 the party back

00:30:19.580 and now I'm about

00:30:20.340 to do a report

00:30:21.100 about how she did

00:30:22.460 get the party back

00:30:23.360 and it's just her.

00:30:25.840 So it is a mess,

00:30:27.660 a messy way

00:30:28.520 to end the year

00:30:29.440 for the conservatives

00:30:30.540 and there's rumors

00:30:31.400 that,

00:30:32.240 and why wouldn't there be,

00:30:33.360 that there might be

00:30:34.260 a snap election

00:30:35.320 by the NDP.

00:30:37.080 David Eby's saying,

00:30:37.840 no, that's not happening,

00:30:38.900 but there's still rumors

00:30:41.160 swirling that he might

00:30:42.360 It would be very

00:30:42.660 strategically smart

00:30:43.880 while the opposition

00:30:44.720 is so fractured

00:30:45.860 fighting itself.

00:30:47.040 You know,

00:30:47.200 there's an old saying,

00:30:48.160 while two argue,

00:30:49.800 a third grabs the hat.

00:30:51.960 I don't know.

00:30:52.980 Of course, of course.

00:30:54.700 You know,

00:30:55.280 it's,

00:30:57.280 you know,

00:30:57.800 you can chuckle

00:30:58.380 at politicians,

00:30:59.200 but British Columbians

00:31:00.300 who have to live there

00:31:01.280 under this shenanigans,

00:31:03.040 I want to point out

00:31:04.160 something.

00:31:04.540 The Wall Street Journal

00:31:05.340 is one of the most

00:31:06.240 prestigious newspapers

00:31:07.520 in America.

00:31:08.180 The New York Times,

00:31:08.860 I think,

00:31:09.120 is probably the most

00:31:10.720 prestigious

00:31:11.580 if you can measure

00:31:12.880 such things,

00:31:13.680 but the Wall Street Journal

00:31:14.560 is a very large readership

00:31:16.120 and it's a very large

00:31:17.620 business readership.

00:31:19.000 Pretty much,

00:31:19.460 if you're a serious

00:31:20.560 businessman in America,

00:31:21.860 you read the Wall Street Journal.

00:31:23.520 And they had

00:31:24.840 a significant report

00:31:27.260 saying

00:31:28.540 that British Columbia

00:31:30.640 is a risky place now

00:31:32.700 because of the land title issue

00:31:34.940 you referred to

00:31:35.640 because the question

00:31:36.840 of indigenous sovereignty

00:31:38.300 and indigenous title

00:31:39.560 is a live issue.

00:31:41.800 The Wall Street Journal

00:31:42.980 has told its,

00:31:44.140 I don't know,

00:31:44.660 one million subscribers,

00:31:46.460 like two million readers

00:31:48.500 to watch out

00:31:49.640 for that province.

00:31:50.560 That has got to be

00:31:52.240 devastating.

00:31:53.320 I mean,

00:31:54.480 you know,

00:31:54.800 when international companies

00:31:56.500 talk about investing,

00:31:57.560 they measure the local risk.

00:31:58.980 That's why

00:31:59.440 they wouldn't

00:32:00.660 likely go to a place

00:32:01.820 like,

00:32:02.240 I don't know,

00:32:03.240 Kazakhstan.

00:32:04.300 But crazy enough,

00:32:05.560 Kazakhstan is probably

00:32:06.600 a safer investment

00:32:07.820 now than BC.

00:32:08.680 What do you make

00:32:09.180 of the fact

00:32:09.940 that the story

00:32:10.600 is spreading

00:32:11.240 and that the whole world

00:32:12.300 is talking about this?

00:32:14.320 This is so sad.

00:32:15.540 BC is such a beautiful place

00:32:17.520 with so much to it.

00:32:20.460 As you know,

00:32:21.280 many people have come here

00:32:22.220 because it's beautiful

00:32:23.160 British Columbia

00:32:23.860 and this is absolutely

00:32:25.080 a huge risk.

00:32:26.680 We're hearing of realtors

00:32:28.020 who are saying

00:32:28.640 people were wanting them

00:32:30.180 to look for homes

00:32:30.880 and they're like,

00:32:31.400 no more.

00:32:32.020 They were wanting them

00:32:32.760 to sell their homes

00:32:33.500 and they're also like,

00:32:34.400 no more.

00:32:35.120 We hear these concerns

00:32:36.340 of, you know,

00:32:37.460 getting a new mortgage.

00:32:38.360 The NDP government

00:32:40.120 has come out now

00:32:41.660 and said,

00:32:42.200 okay,

00:32:42.420 well,

00:32:42.680 we're looking at least

00:32:43.660 for the chunk

00:32:44.660 of people in Richmond

00:32:45.660 to give them financing

00:32:48.420 so that they could

00:32:49.200 at least have financing.

00:32:50.260 Well,

00:32:50.420 that's not a sustainable thing

00:32:51.900 if this keeps happening,

00:32:53.620 which, you know,

00:32:54.600 maybe it already

00:32:55.300 is keep happening

00:32:56.000 because I take you

00:32:57.000 back to Canlips again.

00:32:58.300 We just found out

00:32:59.180 about that

00:32:59.760 after the Cowichan

00:33:00.800 versus Canada case

00:33:02.020 and that's a decade-old case.

00:33:03.860 So we don't even know

00:33:04.900 if these cases

00:33:05.720 are already happening.

00:33:08.120 There's parts of Port Coquitlam

00:33:09.720 up for grabs.

00:33:10.680 So far,

00:33:11.020 it doesn't look like private.

00:33:12.740 But of course,

00:33:13.480 who wants to do business

00:33:14.540 in British Columbia?

00:33:15.480 Who wants to do

00:33:16.240 any type of real estate

00:33:17.340 in these particular areas,

00:33:18.740 especially where it's happening?

00:33:20.260 What does it mean

00:33:21.200 for anybody?

00:33:21.860 We don't know.

00:33:22.840 And again,

00:33:23.480 British Columbia

00:33:24.300 is the first,

00:33:25.980 the most extreme

00:33:27.040 jurisdiction

00:33:28.340 in the world

00:33:29.560 to have taken

00:33:30.240 that aspirational

00:33:31.520 UN framework

00:33:33.380 for Indigenous rights.

00:33:34.940 They ignored

00:33:35.720 the UN's human rights,

00:33:37.580 which would have

00:33:38.020 include all of us.

00:33:39.180 And they took

00:33:39.760 the UN's idea

00:33:41.200 of what Indigenous rights is,

00:33:42.860 which includes

00:33:43.500 that they should have

00:33:44.360 access to any land

00:33:45.820 that they ever walked on,

00:33:47.300 pretty much,

00:33:47.840 if they say they did.

00:33:49.520 And they made

00:33:50.740 that law binding.

00:33:53.160 And they have a commitment

00:33:54.620 to make all of our laws

00:33:56.340 align here.

00:33:57.140 So we're not just

00:33:57.740 seeing this

00:33:58.200 in land.

00:33:58.780 We're seeing this

00:33:59.600 in our conservation.

00:34:01.200 They're starting to say

00:34:02.300 that, you know,

00:34:03.720 before,

00:34:04.120 if you would dig

00:34:04.700 in a development

00:34:05.360 and you would find

00:34:06.120 something that was ancient,

00:34:07.000 you would have to give it,

00:34:07.960 you know,

00:34:08.260 over to the First Nations 0.69

00:34:09.200 to have a look at.

00:34:09.960 Okay, fair enough.

00:34:10.920 Now they're trying

00:34:11.760 to make it

00:34:13.300 so that they could

00:34:14.100 just say,

00:34:14.620 hey, no,

00:34:15.100 you can't do

00:34:15.740 a development in there

00:34:16.520 because we may have

00:34:17.460 something under

00:34:18.080 the ground there.

00:34:18.900 So this is popping up

00:34:20.400 in a very big way.

00:34:21.500 And this is going

00:34:22.040 to be a very big issue

00:34:23.080 for 2026.

00:34:24.720 You just wait and see.

00:34:26.120 I believe you.

00:34:27.240 You know,

00:34:27.600 I sometimes call Alberta

00:34:29.200 a good ideas laboratory,

00:34:30.700 whether it's for tax reform

00:34:32.960 or property rights

00:34:34.140 or there's a lot of

00:34:35.200 freedom-oriented ideas

00:34:36.700 that come from Alberta.

00:34:37.640 But I think it's fair to say,

00:34:39.520 and I say this

00:34:40.020 with a heavy heart,

00:34:41.060 that BC

00:34:41.700 is sometimes

00:34:43.580 a bad ideas laboratory.

00:34:45.240 For example,

00:34:46.180 the hard drugs

00:34:47.320 that are,

00:34:47.860 you know,

00:34:48.240 the safe supply,

00:34:50.020 that idea

00:34:51.320 has really progressed there.

00:34:52.840 the eco-extremism.

00:34:56.180 We've just been talking

00:34:57.080 about indigenous title.

00:34:58.240 Even the transgenderism 1.00

00:34:59.480 in schools,

00:35:00.200 it often gets started

00:35:01.580 earliest in BC

00:35:03.020 and it goes wackiest.

00:35:05.060 It's part of the

00:35:05.580 wacky left coast.

00:35:07.380 And you're right,

00:35:07.960 it's so beautiful

00:35:08.600 and there's so many

00:35:09.200 wonderful things.

00:35:09.940 I think BC is,

00:35:11.220 I mean,

00:35:11.420 I love every province,

00:35:12.320 but I think BC

00:35:12.940 is probably the most beautiful.

00:35:14.880 And it's just a shame

00:35:15.960 that it has

00:35:16.440 some of the worst politics.

00:35:17.820 I'm glad you're out there.

00:35:19.440 I'm glad you're,

00:35:20.280 whether it's the ostrich issue

00:35:22.040 or the indigenous land title

00:35:23.660 or watching

00:35:24.680 as Francis Whitteson,

00:35:25.800 the professor,

00:35:26.620 tries to speak

00:35:27.820 at a university,

00:35:29.020 you're there.

00:35:30.040 And I want you

00:35:31.000 to make me a promise

00:35:32.560 that you're going

00:35:32.980 to stay safe

00:35:34.000 in 2026.

00:35:35.560 As you know,

00:35:36.500 we provide security

00:35:38.100 for your colleague

00:35:38.840 in Montreal,

00:35:39.720 Alexa Lavoie.

00:35:40.880 They've got a bad case

00:35:42.140 of Antifa out there.

00:35:43.440 I know that once or twice

00:35:44.800 you've been,

00:35:45.540 you know,

00:35:46.600 crowded and rushed

00:35:47.560 by Antifa

00:35:48.260 and we've had security

00:35:50.140 for you before

00:35:50.780 when you covered

00:35:51.320 Jonathan Yaniv,

00:35:52.160 the trans extremist.

00:35:53.640 I want you to promise me

00:35:54.640 that you're going

00:35:54.960 to stay safe in 2026

00:35:56.840 and that if you need security,

00:35:59.280 better to ask

00:36:00.460 and not need it

00:36:01.800 than the opposite.

00:36:03.080 Because I'm,

00:36:03.800 I'm a little bit worried

00:36:04.900 because you're so successful

00:36:06.180 and you're starting

00:36:06.720 to get recognized.

00:36:07.720 Before we turned

00:36:08.360 the cameras on,

00:36:09.000 you were telling me

00:36:09.500 that you got recognized

00:36:10.420 to the store

00:36:11.060 in a really fun way.

00:36:13.080 Somebody bought us meat,

00:36:14.620 our family meat.

00:36:15.460 That's like the best gift

00:36:17.680 ever,

00:36:18.280 steaks.

00:36:19.500 Yeah,

00:36:19.880 isn't that wonderful

00:36:20.540 that,

00:36:20.840 you know what,

00:36:21.180 when people buy you,

00:36:22.240 buy you a gift

00:36:23.060 just because they love

00:36:23.880 your work

00:36:24.320 and there's a hundred

00:36:26.380 of those

00:36:27.040 but for every hundred

00:36:28.000 like that,

00:36:29.100 there's one hater

00:36:30.300 and I don't mean

00:36:31.340 to be negative

00:36:31.820 and I'm not trying

00:36:32.440 to end on a down note.

00:36:33.780 It's just your,

00:36:34.660 it's just,

00:36:35.240 I want you to be safe

00:36:36.500 because you've,

00:36:38.040 your reputation

00:36:38.640 has grown so much.

00:36:39.800 Your profile

00:36:40.360 has grown so much

00:36:41.360 because of the stories

00:36:42.600 we've been talking about

00:36:43.560 and I just want you

00:36:45.040 to stay safe out there

00:36:45.960 because we're in

00:36:46.440 a little bit

00:36:46.960 of a different world now

00:36:48.000 and I have this talk

00:36:49.060 with Alexa

00:36:49.640 and with David

00:36:50.960 because that's the world

00:36:52.660 we're in

00:36:53.040 so I want you

00:36:54.260 to stay safe

00:36:54.880 and keep doing

00:36:55.360 your great journalism

00:36:56.260 and we will provide

00:36:57.600 you with security.

00:36:58.560 Our viewers,

00:36:59.260 they love to provide security

00:37:01.200 because that's the best

00:37:02.340 thing they can do

00:37:03.080 as a gift,

00:37:03.900 as their gift to us

00:37:05.400 is to help keep you safe.

00:37:06.680 Last word to you, Drea.

00:37:08.180 Well, thank you so much.

00:37:09.220 You guys always keep me safe

00:37:10.420 and you're still protecting me

00:37:11.720 from Yaniv.

00:37:12.340 Even in my own home,

00:37:13.420 you've got security up.

00:37:14.340 I don't know if you forgot

00:37:15.080 but you're keeping me

00:37:16.460 very safe

00:37:17.020 and you always do

00:37:17.720 and thank you

00:37:18.560 to all of our viewers

00:37:19.400 who do donate

00:37:20.540 at Journalist Defense Fund

00:37:21.840 to make that possible

00:37:23.240 and, you know,

00:37:25.000 thank you to God

00:37:25.660 for keeping me safe so far.

00:37:27.660 Right on.

00:37:28.360 Well, happy Christmas

00:37:29.440 to you and your family

00:37:30.720 and I just want to say

00:37:31.780 I mentioned this before.

00:37:33.020 Happy New Year.

00:37:33.860 I should have said that

00:37:34.460 to everybody.

00:37:35.080 No problem.

00:37:35.300 You took your family

00:37:36.320 with you to the ostrich farm.

00:37:37.800 We got you an RV

00:37:38.600 because you're a mom. 0.91

00:37:39.980 You're a busy mom

00:37:40.740 with a busy life

00:37:41.860 and the only way

00:37:42.880 you were able to spend

00:37:43.720 weeks out there

00:37:44.400 was to incredibly

00:37:45.740 take your family with you

00:37:46.760 and I thought it was

00:37:47.280 sort of wonderful

00:37:47.880 and I really enjoyed

00:37:49.620 seeing it

00:37:50.060 and thanks to your whole family

00:37:51.460 for lending

00:37:52.520 so much of you to us.

00:37:55.140 Have a great year,

00:37:55.860 my friend.

00:37:56.240 Keep up the great work

00:37:56.880 and congratulations

00:37:57.520 on winning

00:37:58.680 the Viewer's Choice Award.

00:37:59.980 Very much well deserved.

00:38:01.540 Thank you so much,

00:38:02.480 everybody.

00:38:02.940 Happy New Year.

00:38:03.740 Love you all.

00:38:04.320 You too, Ezra.

00:38:04.940 Thank you, Drea.

00:38:06.240 See you later.

00:38:07.760 Well, there she is,

00:38:08.400 Drea Humphrey.

00:38:09.140 Boy, what a great year she's had

00:38:11.000 and only bigger things to come.

00:38:14.040 Well, that's our show for the day.

00:38:16.000 Until tomorrow,

00:38:17.060 on behalf of all of us

00:38:18.040 here at Rebel World Headquarters

00:38:19.400 to you at home,

00:38:20.580 good night

00:38:20.960 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:38:24.060 Thanks, Drea.

00:38:24.880 Good night.

00:38:25.480 Thank you.

00:38:26.180 I sent you an email.

00:38:27.340 It's not a rush,

00:38:28.160 but I just want to make sure

00:38:29.180 you saw it.

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Rebel News Podcast - December 23, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Special interview with the 2025 Rebel News Viewers’ Choice winner

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