Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Steelworkers unite behind the pipeline vision Canada’s politicians keep ignoring

00:00:00.000 Hello my friends, very exciting show today. I just got back from Sault Ste. Marie where the Algoma 0.98

00:00:04.720 steel mill is and we had a very special question for the steel workers going into work early in

00:00:10.920 the morning. You're not going to want to miss this very special show but first let me invite you to

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00:01:11.400 We are returning all of the proceeds, every dollar from those tariffs to protect our workers and the

00:01:17.820 businesses that are most affected by this trade war. Algoma steel based in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario

00:01:23.180 has laid off 1,000 workers today. We've got a very pro-steel message here. I see that. That's

00:01:29.480 good. Pipelines are made of steel. Algoma makes steel. It seems like a natural fit. I totally agree. 1.00

00:01:35.540 That's great for the community, for Sault Ste. Marie, for Algoma. They want to build a pipeline

00:01:40.140 and let's use Algoma steel. I just love Canadian steel. 50% the tariffs on steel into the United States

00:01:47.100 of America. Trump cannot put a tariff on a Canadian project. Yes, exactly. Look at this

00:01:52.980 you're putting up a big show. Good morning. We've been up since the wee hours and behind me is one of

00:02:02.780 the gates at Algoma's steel factory here in Sault Ste. Marie. Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, just across the

00:02:10.720 river from Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, shows how close this city and this company is tied to American

00:02:18.440 markets. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has other plans for steel and he's put a walloping tariff

00:02:25.120 on Canadian steel sold into the United States. We're going to bring it from 25% to 50% the tariffs

00:02:32.680 on steel into the United States of America. Nobody's going to get around that. That's thrown this company

00:02:39.320 into disarray. Recently, even though the governments of Ontario and Canada have given $500 million to

00:02:46.700 Algoma, they announced a thousand more layoffs, almost half of the company's workforce. So we came

00:02:55.020 here with an idea. What would happen if we increased demand for Canadian steel here in Canada, beyond the

00:03:03.620 reach of foreign tariffs and not with some government giveaways or subsidies? Those never work and they certainly never

00:03:10.580 last. What if we came up with a real bona fide project paid for by the private sector that uses steel? Well, I'm born and

00:03:19.060 raised in Alberta. I know a little something about pipelines. The one thing I know mainly is they are made of steel. A billion

00:03:26.820 dollars worth of steel is what was estimated in the Northern Gateway pipeline that the Liberals killed.

00:03:32.980 They also killed the Energy East pipeline. And then Barack Obama killed the Keystone Excel pipeline.

00:03:40.100 Those are three pipelines in whole or in part in Canada that could have bought steel from this company

00:03:47.380 and kept these workers working. So we did one of the things that we love to do. We brought our big,

00:03:54.900 beautiful billboard truck on the nine hour drive up from Toronto to Sault Ste. Marie and we parked it here

00:04:02.980 outside the gate. And as the workers are coming in at 6 30 and 7 and 7 30 in the morning, we're asking

00:04:09.620 them a simple question. Do you think we should build a pipeline and use Algoma steel? Here's what they've been

00:04:17.620 saying. Hawaria, we have a billboard truck and we say build steel pipelines. If we could get an oil pipeline from

00:04:23.780 Alberta to BC, we could use Algoma steel. What do you think of that? That's a perfect idea. That's great

00:04:29.620 for the community, for Sault Ste. Marie, for Algoma. I love it. I think it gives us jobs as Canadians

00:04:35.940 considering steel is not really selling in the States right now. That's a good idea. Right on. Cheers. You

00:04:40.020 work here? Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks. What do you think of that idea? I agree. I absolutely agree. I think

00:04:45.700 that's a good idea. Pipelines are made of steel. Algoma makes steel. It seems like a natural fit.

00:04:50.980 I totally agree. I just love Canadian steel. Right on. Me too. You know, there'd be a billion

00:04:56.820 dollars worth of steel in a pipeline from Alberta to the west coast. I think it should be bought right

00:05:01.860 here. What do you think? I think so too. Right on. I'm glad to hear you say that. Listen, I wish you

00:05:05.940 good luck. Our heart's breaking for what's going on because Trump's putting the tariffs on, but Trump

00:05:10.500 cannot put a tariff on a Canadian project. Yes, exactly. All right. Well, good luck. Thank you. Nice to meet you.

00:05:16.820 You too. I would take the opportunity, get more jobs out here. What do you think? I believe two.

00:05:22.660 You believe two? Right on. Good luck. I totally agree with that one. If you had one message for

00:05:27.140 Alberta, what would you say about oil pipelines and steel? I think go for it 100%. It will help Alberta

00:05:34.020 and will help the rest of the country. I sure hope we get somebody who wants to buy Canadians. I hope so. 0.99

00:05:38.660 Thanks. Good luck. I support everything that makes Algoma great. Right on. Thank you. Friendly guy.

00:05:44.500 He says he supports anything that makes Algoma great. I can't think of a greater thing than to

00:05:50.180 build a pipeline from Alberta through the Rocky Mountains to the coast. It's an enormous project.

00:05:58.340 Well, about 80% of the cars stopped to talk to me. Either people said they were a little bit late

00:06:05.220 for work and no problem. Only one person disagreed. Well, he didn't really disagree with the idea.

00:06:11.860 He just didn't like Rebel News. That's okay. Not everybody does. 90% of the people who stopped to

00:06:17.780 talk liked our idea. Here's my conversation with a skeptic who thought we were being too mean to the CEO.

00:06:25.860 And maybe we were politicizing things. Take a listen to what he told me and what I said.

00:06:30.420 Do you think it should happen or what are your thoughts on that? My thoughts are you putting on

00:06:35.700 a show that's despicable. What's despicable about it? Your organization. You don't like Rebel News?

00:06:42.660 No. Okay. Well, we're supporting the steelworkers. That's a matter in itself, isn't it? Like,

00:06:48.340 don't you think we should build a pipeline with Algoma Steel? There's better ways to support it.

00:06:52.660 Give me one and I'll let you go. Tell me what we should do instead.

00:06:55.860 Just be a decent journalist. Okay. Well, this is a real question though. I mean,

00:07:01.220 the pipeline, it would take steel from Algoma. What's wrong with that?

00:07:08.580 If we can get orders for a pipeline, that's great. Okay. I didn't mean to stress you out.

00:07:13.540 I think it's a good idea. Like, look at this . You're putting up a big show.

00:07:19.380 Well, we're trying to get a piece of political points while people are losing their jobs.

00:07:24.740 Well, our whole point is, is that you get jobs by building a real pipeline, a billion dollars

00:07:29.460 worth of pipeline. Maybe there you got a good point. Well, that's the point I'm trying to make

00:07:33.860 here today. That's all I'm talking about. I hope they would consider that and maybe they'll do that.

00:07:36.740 I hope they do. Listen, I didn't mean to stress you out. I believe that the pipeline is a smart way

00:07:42.260 to get steel demand that doesn't, it's not artificial. It's a real demand.

00:07:45.540 I've seen your other video about Algoma Steel and it upset me very much.

00:07:49.220 What part of it? Can I ask you? All of it. It was a lot of lies in there.

00:07:53.380 Like what? Tell me when. Because I did my research. What did I get wrong?

00:07:58.740 The reason for the layoffs, trashing the CEO's motives,

00:08:04.260 making conspiracies about the liberals and like, none of this is based in reality.

00:08:12.020 All right. Well, listen, I'm glad you told me what was on your mind and I'm sorry if I upset you.

00:08:16.260 Okay. Okay. Good luck.

00:08:19.220 He says we poked at the CEO. It's true. I mean, he took $5.6 million. He's leaving this year and he

00:08:26.820 laid off a thousand people. I'm sorry. I'm going to criticize the CEO. I'm a free market guy by nature

00:08:33.620 and I'm not against wealth. When the CEO makes 5.6 million bucks, but lays off a thousand workers,

00:08:39.380 I'm going to criticize it. I'm sorry I hurt his feelings somehow, but my message is pro steel.

00:08:43.940 I think saying we're politicizing things is sort of a little bit too late to say that this whole thing

00:08:50.580 has been extremely politicized. So he's threatening Canadian workers in auto manufacturing and workers

00:08:57.940 throughout the industry's supply chain, including here at Algoma. It was politics that put the tariffs

00:09:03.540 on. It was politics that put the half billion dollar federal and provincial money into it.

00:09:08.420 When it comes to protecting Ontario, I'll fight like I've never fought before. Donald Trump thinks he

00:09:15.140 can break us. He thinks he can divide and conquer us. He doesn't know what we know.

00:09:21.060 It's politics, especially by the federal government that said, hey, Algoma, get off coal fired steel

00:09:28.420 mills and move to this new green scheme of electric arc steel making. This whole thing is political.

00:09:35.060 And that's one of the reasons why Rebel News is here is because public money and the public interest

00:09:39.860 are at stake. Algoma isn't just a private company. It's a private company that is at the heart of a

00:09:45.620 public battle. And it's taken hundreds of millions. In fact, almost a billion dollars

00:09:50.740 over the last five or so years. Hey, just one side note. When we pulled up,

00:09:54.420 I introduced myself to the security guard. I said, hi, I'm Ezra. And he was pretty snarky. I get it

00:10:00.180 because he's probably had some frustrating media coverage over the last few weeks, frankly,

00:10:04.980 over the last few years. I'm Ezra. And I'm going to need to delete that.

00:10:08.980 Okay. I'm Ezra Levan. How do you do? All right. Good. Very good.

00:10:11.780 Okay. You're not shaking my hand. That's not friendly. You're on private property.

00:10:17.380 Okay. We'll move. We've got a very pro steel message here. I see that. That's good.

00:10:22.100 If you want to just park on the other side of our parking lot, you guys can do whatever you want.

00:10:26.100 Okay. Sure will. Perfect. You know, can I just give you 30 seconds? Our message is

00:10:32.820 every pipeline means billions in steel demand.

00:10:38.420 We're literally moving. I told you five minutes ago to move it.

00:10:40.580 Well, you're not my boss. And you wouldn't even shake my hand.

00:10:43.860 You're trespassing.

00:10:44.820 Well, you wouldn't even shake my hand.

00:10:45.860 You're trespassing. So the police are coming here.

00:10:47.700 Okay. That'll be...

00:10:48.500 And we're going to charge you. And we want all the video footage, too.

00:10:51.220 I'm sure you do. But you won't even shake my hand.

00:10:54.180 Why would I shake your hand if you don't listen to me?

00:10:56.180 Well, it was the very first thing I said before you started shoving at me.

00:11:00.260 Sure it does. You're being mean.

00:11:02.420 You're trespassing, sir.

00:11:03.620 Well, we're leaving now. And you're being mean.

00:11:05.620 No, you're not leaving.

00:11:06.580 Well, yes, we are.

00:11:07.140 I told you to leave five minutes ago.

00:11:08.340 Well, you're not my boss.

00:11:09.300 I'm not your boss.

00:11:11.060 They did ask us to leave the property, which we promptly did.

00:11:15.060 Nonetheless, they called some of Sault Ste. Marie's finest.

00:11:18.580 Two police cars pulled up. Another did a patrol,

00:11:21.300 I guess, looking for any more rebels out there.

00:11:23.460 Only three cruisers. I feel like I'm not important.

00:11:26.180 No, no, you're not important.

00:11:28.020 I'm joking. I'm Ezra Levan.

00:11:29.780 This is my friend, Lincoln J.

00:11:31.300 What have they told you so far?

00:11:32.580 Well, they when we were over there, they said, that's our private property.

00:11:38.340 I said, OK, so we'll go on the. In fact, he said, go on the street.

00:11:41.860 OK, so that's what we did here.

00:11:43.860 And everyone I weigh with them when they come in.

00:11:46.180 I say, hey, I got this idea.

00:11:47.540 Over here.

00:11:47.860 I say, I got this idea.

00:11:51.380 They're building the pipe.

00:11:52.340 They want to build a pipeline and let's use Algoma Steel.

00:11:56.020 So everyone is very friendly.

00:11:58.340 We stopped, have a 30 second chat on the way in.

00:12:01.460 And the security guard there said, don't be up there.

00:12:05.140 OK, so we moved and he said, move over here.

00:12:08.180 So we did.

00:12:08.820 OK.

00:12:09.380 And now what have they because they call this again?

00:12:11.460 Really?

00:12:11.940 Yeah.

00:12:12.100 What did they say?

00:12:12.980 Because they haven't talked to us since we left.

00:12:14.580 They said it was a trespassing issue.

00:12:15.860 But this is a public issue.

00:12:16.660 At the end of the day, I'm going to ask them what their property is

00:12:18.660 because it's my understanding that they own basically from West Street

00:12:22.020 Inn.

00:12:22.420 I know you know your laws when it comes to trespassing.

00:12:24.340 And I'm not looking to make a fuss here.

00:12:26.580 And so we immediately, well, in 60 seconds, we moved.

00:12:32.020 And I think he's a bit cranky.

00:12:33.300 The fact of it is, I spoke to the VP of HR.

00:12:36.740 Oh, yeah.

00:12:37.300 And they're saying they own from West Street Inn.

00:12:39.300 Now, they're saying it.

00:12:40.100 I know they told you that on the phone.

00:12:41.060 And they're going to provide it to me when she gets in.

00:12:42.260 She obviously can't do it right now. 0.87

00:12:43.380 OK.

00:12:43.780 So for the time being, I can ask you guys to go at least, I guess,

00:12:47.460 I'd be east of West Street.

00:12:48.820 Even though the company furnished no proof that they own the public street,

00:12:52.180 we did move our truck.

00:12:54.100 I think it goes to the fact that Algoma wants it both ways.

00:12:57.700 And I'm talking about the corporation, not the workers.

00:13:00.340 The management, the corporation wants the public to give it money.

00:13:06.420 But it doesn't want the public through journalists to ask questions.

00:13:10.260 I think you got to pick a lane.

00:13:12.660 If you are a private, reclusive, secluded company that doesn't like talking to the media, fine.

00:13:18.660 But then don't take half a billion dollars and lay off a thousand workers.

00:13:23.380 I think you have to have it both ways.

00:13:24.740 Speaking of which, here's Sault Ste. Marie's finest.

00:13:27.220 What's the word?

00:13:27.940 9 meters, 30 feet.

00:13:29.700 That's what it is.

00:13:30.900 So I think we're pretty close.

00:13:32.580 Yeah.

00:13:33.060 All right.

00:13:33.940 Fair deal.

00:13:34.420 Thanks for checking that.

00:13:35.300 It seemed a little long.

00:13:36.340 I wish every one of these steelworkers well.

00:13:39.860 I want them to be working at this big, beautiful plant for a very long time.

00:13:44.580 The only way to make that sustainable is by having real customers,

00:13:48.900 not by asking for more handouts from Mark Carney or Doug Ford.

00:13:52.660 That's why we're here.

00:13:53.860 And so far, the steelworkers agree.

00:13:56.020 If you think that we need to build steel pipelines,

00:13:59.220 why not go to our petition at buildsteelpipelines.com?

00:14:02.980 I don't care if you're left wing or right wing.

00:14:05.940 We need these jobs in Canada.

00:14:07.860 And the only way to keep these jobs is with real customers, not handouts.

00:14:12.660 For Rebel News, I'm Ezra LeVance.

00:14:24.980 Hey guys, I'm back in Toronto now.

00:14:27.700 What an exciting mission up to Sault Ste. Marie.

00:14:30.980 I feel very sad for that steel factory because without a natural big customer like a pipeline,

00:14:36.580 I am very afraid that those jobs are not coming back.

00:14:39.140 And that's very sad.

00:14:39.860 Now, by the way, the oil patch has lost probably a hundred times that

00:14:44.340 in employment over the last decade because of anti-oil policies.

00:14:48.020 Very sad as well.

00:14:48.900 Anyways, I was glad to go up there.

00:14:50.820 And I was glad that the ordinary steelworkers liked what I had proposed.

00:14:55.300 I don't know if that will amount to a hill of beans in the end, but it was nice to see.

00:15:00.100 Hey, while I was in Sault Ste. Marie, two of our team who speak French were coming back

00:15:05.780 from the island of Guadeloupe.

00:15:07.460 Now, where is that and what were they doing there?

00:15:10.340 Well, we saw a few days ago a crazy report that the French overseas territory, which is in the

00:15:16.580 Caribbean, called Guadeloupe, someone rammed their car into a Christmas market, injuring 19

00:15:24.100 people. And I immediately thought, oh my God, that happens in France, a terrifying frequency

00:15:30.180 across Europe. In fact, all these Christmas markets are targeted by Islamic terrorists.

00:15:36.340 Is that happening in Guadeloupe? Because it's happened in France.

00:15:40.420 There was a horrific case of an Islamic terrorist who got behind a huge truck and drove down the street

00:15:46.980 in Nice, France, killing 83 people. Just horrific. And I thought, oh my God, has that come to Guadeloupe?

00:15:55.380 It was very hard to tell. But there was an not so expensive flight down there. It's not too far away

00:16:02.100 from Montreal. So we sent our French speaking Montrealers there to find out, was this a terrorist attack

00:16:09.780 in the Caribbean? And here's what they found.

00:16:12.420 Alexa Lavoie for Rebel News. And I'm currently in Saint-Anne, Guadeloupe, right here on Place

00:16:21.300 Cholchur, in front of the church where the Christmas light illumination event took place on December 5th.

00:16:28.740 That evening, the municipality had gathered with families to kick off the holiday festivities.

00:16:36.580 Mais c'était vraiment un événement pour introduire les enfants dans la culture locale, du champ,

00:16:41.140 des festivités, des musiques sur la place. C'était aussi pour allumer les lumières publiquement

00:16:47.460 avec les enfants.

00:16:48.020 En fait, déjà, c'était pas un marché de Noël. C'était l'illumination, c'était les

00:16:52.020 lumières qui mettaient au niveau de la commune, les lumières pour la Noël. Et en fait, il y avait

00:16:56.580 des chants des enfants, des enfants qui chantaient des chants de Noël. C'était des prestations qu'ils faisaient.

00:17:02.020 Il s'est passé à la nuit à 7.30 à la nuit. According to information gathered on site,

00:17:08.340 un 45-year-old man, reportedly intoxicated avec alcool et cannabis,

00:17:14.820 came speeding down this slope, lost control of his vehicle and crashed into the crowd

00:17:22.900 at the corner there, hitting several people, including children who were waiting in line

00:17:29.620 Some witnesses told us that no one died that night.

00:17:33.700 But they described horrifying scenes, mentioning that a child

00:17:37.760 had to be pulled out from underneath the vehicle, and that

00:17:41.840 the windshield was completely shattered, showing just how

00:17:45.900 violent the impact was.

00:17:49.980 J'étais en train de m'installer et j'ai entendu les

00:17:52.640 membres de mon groupe derrière hurler, crier, qui voyaient

00:17:55.680 ce qui s'était passé, et en fait, ce qui s'est passé, c'est

00:17:58.320 qu'il y a un homme qui était dans une voiture et qui a dévalé 0.93

00:18:02.360 justement cette rue et qui a chopé toutes les personnes qui

00:18:06.300 étaient en train d'attendre leur repas près de la roulotte et

00:18:09.860 qui s'est encastrée justement près de la police.

00:18:12.860 Alors il n'y a pas eu de mort, il y a eu que des blessés, il y a

00:18:16.100 eu des adultes, mais aussi des enfants.

00:18:18.340 Alors il y a eu un enfant, je crois, qui a été coincé sous

00:18:21.340 la voiture justement, donc ils ont dû soulever la voiture

00:18:23.980 pour le récupérer. Je crois que c'est le cas le plus grave.

00:18:26.620 Il paraît qu'il n'a pas contrôlé sa voiture, mais il allait,

00:18:30.660 pour moi, c'est au son, parce que j'étais juste dans l'autre

00:18:33.660 côté de la rue et c'est au son, il allait vite.

00:18:36.660 Pour moi, il allait vite.

00:18:38.160 Il y a eu un périmètre qui n'a pas été assez sécurisé par

00:18:41.160 la mairie. Ce manque d'organisation de la sécurité a fait

00:18:45.500 qu'une voiture a pu s'introduire dans le périmètre de la

00:18:50.240 manifestation. Donc il y avait environ 400 personnes. Quand il y a

00:18:54.040 400 personnes, il faut baliser les entrées et les sorties

00:18:57.040 avec des barrières pour éviter que des voitures s'introduisent

00:18:59.080 et qu'il y ait des accidents comme il n'y a pu y avoir.

00:19:02.020 Moi, je dirais que c'est quelqu'un peut-être qui était

00:19:07.060 sous l'effet de l'alcool ou autre, mais pas terroriste.

00:19:10.060 Sur les 30 dernières années, ça n'existe pas, le terrorisme

00:19:14.140 en Guadeloupe. Après, il faut quand même s'introduire

00:19:17.100 qu'il y a un terrorisme en Guadeloupe.

00:19:19.040 Il faut quand même se concentrer et chercher les bonnes informations.

00:19:22.140 On a toujours un membre de notre famille qui est à la police,

00:19:25.040 qui est à la gendarmerie, qui est au CHU, qui est à la préfecture

00:19:28.080 et les informations circulent. Donc si effectivement il y a

00:19:31.160 un doute par rapport au terrorisme, ça reste à confirmer

00:19:33.960 qu'on ne peut pas s'introduire.

00:19:36.100 Il faut s'introduire qu'il y a un doute par rapport au terrorisme,

00:19:39.120 ça reste à confirmer.

00:19:40.420 Il faut s'introduire qu'il y a un problème.

00:19:42.420 Il faut s'introduire qu'il y a un problème.

00:19:45.440 Il faut s'introduire qu'il y a un problème.

00:19:47.560 Le terrorisme, ça reste à confirmer.

00:19:49.620 Mais je comprends que certaines personnes puissent penser,

00:19:54.100 moi qui ai beaucoup vécu à Paris, notamment pendant la période

00:19:58.680 des attentats, si on est catapulté ou qu'on est en vacances ici

00:20:02.680 et qu'on entend l'article de presse qui dit qu'il y a une voiture

00:20:05.520 qui a foncé sur 20 à 30 personnes, le souffle, l'émotion,

00:20:11.460 elle est directement sur le caractère terroriste

00:20:14.780 ou le caractère d'attentat qu'il peut y avoir.

00:20:17.560 Moi, j'y ai pensé tout de suite parce qu'en fait,

00:20:19.620 quand j'ai entendu ceux qui ont crié et m'ont expliqué

00:20:22.600 ce qui s'est passé en quelques secondes, ça a pris du temps

00:20:24.600 pour que les secours arrivent, mais bon, ils sont arrivés

00:20:26.600 en masse avec les gendarmes et tout.

00:20:28.680 Mais non, c'est pas une attaque terroriste.

00:20:30.680 Ce qui est dit, c'est que c'était un jeune homme qui était 0.96

00:20:33.640 alcoolisé et sous des stupéfiants.

00:20:36.040 Nous n'avons pas eu de cas particuliers où on n'a pas eu

00:20:38.100 d'attentats, rien de ce style.

00:20:40.080 Finalement, si il était terroriste, je pense qu'il serait

00:20:42.080 vraiment allé plus vite et l'intention vraiment de tuer

00:20:44.080 tout le monde, quoi.

00:20:45.080 Et finalement, il s'est fait arrêter très vite par la police.

00:20:47.080 Et du coup, je crois que sa famille était là et donc

00:20:50.080 eux-mêmes étaient choqués, en fait, de la situation.

00:20:52.020 However, Western countries are facing a growing level of

00:20:56.060 terrorist threats.

00:20:57.060 This is why, on December 3, just two days before this

00:21:00.060 incident, France's intérieur minister, Laurent Nunez,

00:21:04.060 instructed all prefects to reinforce security around

00:21:07.060 Christmas markets, citing a very high level of terrorist

00:21:10.080 threats.

00:21:22.020 Apparently, these measures were not implemented here in

00:21:26.060 Guadeloupe.

00:21:27.060 We also remember the Nice attack where a Tunisian national

00:21:32.060 drove a truck into the crowd during the national holiday,

00:21:36.060 killing many people.

00:21:38.060 And more recently, several Christmas-related events have

00:21:42.080 been and continue to be targeted by Islamist extremists

00:21:46.080 and pro-Amma supporters.

00:21:48.020 In this context, it was impossible to dismiss beyond

00:21:52.060 all doubt the possibility of a terrorist attack in the

00:21:56.060 immediate aftermath.

00:21:58.060 Especially today, when the information spreads extremely

00:22:01.060 fast online and the public no longer trust mainstream media

00:22:05.080 for good reasons.

00:22:07.080 This is also why the rumour claiming 10 people had died went

00:22:12.080 viral, to the point where Elon Musk himself re-shared it.

00:22:16.020 Today, we are bringing you the facts.

00:22:19.020 The one who drove, I also know him.

00:22:20.020 Really?

00:22:21.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:22.020 He was a young man of St. Anne, too.

00:22:23.020 A young man.

00:22:24.020 Well, a young man.

00:22:25.020 He drank and drank.

00:22:26.020 He drank and drank.

00:22:27.020 Yeah.

00:22:28.020 He drank and drank.

00:22:29.020 He drank and drank.

00:22:30.020 He drank and drank.

00:22:31.020 So, it's not a good ménage.

00:22:32.020 Yeah, but at 7 o'clock and a half an hour,

00:22:33.020 he already defends at this point?

00:22:34.020 Yeah, it's hot.

00:22:35.020 It's complicated, huh?

00:22:36.020 It's complicated, huh?

00:22:37.020 Ironically, the tragic event that took place last Friday here

00:22:39.020 is the city of Guadeloupe.

00:22:41.020 Happened right here, just in front of the police station.

00:22:51.020 Beaucoup de personnes qui ont évoqué la suspicion de peut-être

00:22:56.020 une attaque terroriste pour vous?

00:22:57.020 Ah non, ah non, je pense pas. Je pense que plutôt que sa voiture

00:23:01.020 avait un problème. Comme ils ont dit qu'il était sous l'effet

00:23:04.020 de l'alcool et des produits de drogue et tout. Je pense que ça peut

00:23:10.020 être à part à ça. Mais moi, je ne dis pas que c'est un

00:23:13.020 État terroriste, non.

00:23:14.020 Bonjour, vous vous rappelez de nous? Je pense que c'est à vous

00:23:17.020 qu'on avait parlé hier. On nous a envoyés ici pour essayer

00:23:20.020 de parler justement avec la personne entière pour parler

00:23:23.020 une autre. Donc, j'ai envie de la faire.

00:23:26.020 On est du Canada, on est venus justement à vous.

00:23:29.020 Demander pour avoir des commentaires ou un entrevue pour

00:23:32.020 expliquer ce qui s'est passé. D'accord.

00:23:35.020 Vendredi dernier, à cause qu'il y a tellement eu de

00:23:38.020 désinformation qui s'est demandé. D'accord.

00:23:40.020 Et là, il y a du monde qui discutait fort et des gens qui

00:23:43.020 ont plein de théorie. Mais je voulais savoir si ça vous

00:23:46.020 dérangeait de nous donner quelques mots.

00:23:48.020 Alors, je ne pourrais pas vous faire quelques mots dessus

00:23:50.020 parce que c'est une communication qui est montée au

00:23:52.020 niveau du préfet. Ok.

00:23:54.020 Et quand c'est une communication qui est montée au niveau

00:23:56.020 du préfet. Ok.

00:23:57.020 Et quand c'est une communication préfectorale, c'est que le

00:23:59.020 préfet qui communique dessus. Alors, si vous devez partir tout

00:24:04.020 à l'heure, vous avez eu la possibilité, peut-être que la

00:24:08.020 privée peut communiquer. Ok.

00:24:10.020 Mais la mairie, la mairie n'est pas trop loin, en fait.

00:24:13.020 Mais nous, moi, je ne peux pas communiquer parce que c'est

00:24:15.020 au-dessus ou au-dessus de moi.

00:24:17.020 To verify the facts, we tried to go and talk with the

00:24:22.020 firefighters, as well as the police department.

00:24:27.020 And they all referred us here at the mayor's office.

00:24:32.020 So, we took the time to have an interview with the mayor

00:24:36.020 of Saint-Anne.

00:24:38.020 ...

00:24:48.020 ...

00:24:53.020 ...

00:24:57.020 ...

00:24:59.020 ...

00:25:11.020 Donc, on constate que c'est une voiture qui sort parallèle

00:25:15.020 de l'église, parallèle aussi du lieu de la manifestation, à

00:25:20.020 gauche, où était érigée une ou l'autre qui vend des denrées

00:25:26.020 alimentaires, où les gens attendaient des produits alimentaires.

00:25:30.020 Et donc, la voiture est passée dedans, à peu près une

00:25:33.020 cinquantaine, soixantaine de personnes, y compris adultes et

00:25:36.020 enfants. Et c'est de là que nous constatons. Après, je me

00:25:39.020 rends compte que c'est le conducteur, d'après ce que nous

00:25:44.020 avons constaté, il était ivre et était aussi à avoir des

00:25:47.020 stupéfiants. Donc, tout de suite maîtrisé parce qu'il a failli

00:25:50.020 se faire lyncher. Donc, mes policiers l'ont protégé pour le

00:25:55.020 mettre à l'intérieur, parce que nous ne sommes pas loin de la

00:25:58.020 police. Donc, ce qui fait que tout de suite, nous avons eu le

00:26:01.020 colonel des sapeurs-pompiers, qui est de Sainte-Anne,

00:26:04.020 présent, et tout de suite a pris les opérations en main, a

00:26:07.020 appelé. Et tout de suite, nous avons eu, petit à petit, les

00:26:11.020 ambulanciers, le SAMU, qui sont arrivés pour maîtriser la

00:26:14.020 situation. Évidemment, tout le monde était ému, y compris moi

00:26:18.020 et mon équipe du conseil municipal. Le colonel des sapeurs-pompiers

00:26:23.020 m'a dit, est-ce que vous avez un espace pour mettre les

00:26:27.020 blessés et petit à petit, on va gérer ça, cellule de crise.

00:26:31.020 Tout de suite, j'ai mis un espace pour la cellule de crise. Donc,

00:26:34.020 ça a été fait dans les règles de l'art. Et tout de suite, peut-être

00:26:37.020 20 ou 30 minutes après, le sous-préfet de Printapit, M. Jean-François

00:26:43.020 Amoniote, m'appelle pour me dire, voilà, qu'est-ce qui se passe. Mais il a

00:26:46.020 pensé que c'était un attentat, comme on a vu en France à Nice. Donc,

00:26:50.020 c'était pas ça. Je lui explique le sujet et tout de suite, dans

00:26:54.020 pratiquement 30 minutes, il était présent sur le temps de Printapit,

00:26:57.020 il est monté et on a encore ajouté, je dirais, l'organisation pour

00:27:01.020 qu'on puisse mettre en place ce dispositif qui a fonctionné très

00:27:05.020 bien parce que les enfants, on a pu s'occuper des enfants à terre,

00:27:10.020 les plus graves, parce qu'il y avait un petit qui était visiblement

00:27:13.020 sur une voiture, la voiture en question, et d'autres adultes pour

00:27:18.020 acheter leurs produits alimentaires étaient aussi affectés et étaient

00:27:22.020 aussi impactés. Nous n'avons pas eu de décès, heureusement pour nous,

00:27:26.020 mais on a eu pratiquement 7 enfants blessés et trois enfants assez

00:27:31.020 graves. Mais le pronostic vital n'était pas en danger.

00:27:36.020 Comment que vous l'expliquez que deux jours avant que cela se

00:27:40.020 produise, le ministre de l'Intérieur, Laurent Nunez, avait

00:27:43.020 précisé qu'il fallait renforcer la sécurité autour de ces

00:27:46.020 événements-là de Noël, justement à cause du haut risque

00:27:50.020 d'attaques terroristes. Qu'est-ce qui explique qu'il n'y a pas

00:27:53.020 eu, en fait, de renforcement?

00:27:55.020 Alors, j'entends bien ces messages, mais ça n'avait rien à

00:27:58.020 voir parce qu'il n'y a pas eu de renforcement.

00:28:01.020 C'est un message, mais ça n'avait rien à voir parce qu'on a

00:28:06.020 l'habitude de faire. C'est un banal, je dirais,

00:28:11.020 illumination, mon fait, pour l'ignoration. On n'avait pas

00:28:15.020 à prendre des discussions. On avait, je vous dis, entre 300 et

00:28:18.020 350 personnes basées sur la place face au maire et mon équipe

00:28:22.020 municipale. Et ça n'avait rien à voir par rapport au lieu où

00:28:25.020 s'est passé l'accident. Donc, on savait déjà. Mais comme on dit,

00:28:29.020 avec des scies, on peut faire beaucoup de choses. Avec des scies,

00:28:33.020 on peut faire beaucoup de choses. Donc...

00:28:35.020 Qu'est-ce qui vous a fait écarter la suspicion que c'était

00:28:40.020 une attaque terroriste? Qu'est-ce qui vous a fait écarter cette

00:28:43.020 option-là?

00:28:44.020 Qu'est-ce qui vous a fait écarter cette option-là?

00:28:47.020 Je pense qu'à Sainte-Anne, nous sommes en France, évidemment.

00:28:50.020 Nous sommes en Guadeloupe, mais nous sommes en France. Donc, on

00:28:53.020 ne peut pas penser, au seul instant, qu'on peut faire des

00:28:57.020 attaques terroristes chez nous. Vous voyez ce que je vous dis?

00:29:00.020 Première édition, ça, c'est pas si normal. Deuxième édition,

00:29:02.020 ça, c'est normal. Là, on a été troisième édition, sauf qu'on

00:29:06.020 avait les enfants qui sont venus pour l'échaler le ballon. Parce

00:29:09.020 que dans mon discours, quand je disais, je dis à la population

00:29:12.020 pour les rêver des enfants, c'est la convivialité, c'est la

00:29:15.020 paix, c'est l'amour, c'est le respect d'autrui. Et c'est le

00:29:18.020 partage, parce que nous sommes à la fête de fin d'année, c'est

00:29:21.020 la Noël. Mais c'était pas un chanter Noël. C'était simplement

00:29:24.020 l'inauguration pour l'illumination, comme au

00:29:28.020 Champs-Élysées. C'est tout. Et puis, il n'y avait pas les masses,

00:29:31.020 les masses de foules qu'on aurait pu escompter. Bon, alors,

00:29:35.020 évidemment, on peut pas prévoir, on aurait pu aussi avoir

00:29:38.020 certainement un attentat.

00:29:39.020 Parce que dans le passé, en Guadeloupe, vous avez eu des

00:29:42.020 gens qui ont quitté pour aller faire le djihad dans d'autres 0.91

00:29:45.020 pays, dont au Moyen-Orient. En fait, c'est répertorié.

00:29:48.020 Non, c'est nous, non. Je le confirme, c'est nous, non. On n'a

00:29:51.020 jamais eu des attentats en Guadeloupe.

00:29:52.020 En Guadeloupe, il y en a eu?

00:29:53.020 Ah non, non, jamais. On a eu, à l'époque, il y a peut-être

00:29:56.020 50 ans de ça, les indépendantistes, oui, ils ont fait des bombes.

00:29:59.020 Il y a à peu près... en 2015, là, ça a été répertorié?

00:30:02.020 Non, non, non, ici, on n'a pas eu ça, non. Si on me le prouve,

00:30:06.020 on n'a pas eu ça en Guadeloupe. On n'a pas eu d'attentat en

00:30:09.020 Guadeloupe.

00:30:10.020 Non, pas d'attentat. J'ai dit, vous avez des citoyens qui ont

00:30:13.020 quitté la Guadeloupe pour aller joindre des groupes djihadistes.

00:30:16.020 Mais ça, c'est de Paris, des Guadeloupéens de Paris qui ont été

00:30:19.020 là-bas. C'est pas des gens qui sortent d'ici. C'est des Guadeloupéens

00:30:22.020 qui sont basés là-bas, à Paris. Peut-être qu'ils ont été,

00:30:25.020 parce qu'ils sont formés dans leur système. Mais nous, nous restons

00:30:29.020 quand même, Dieu merci, un peuple sain qui n'a pas ces genres de

00:30:33.020 coutumes. Vous voyez ce que je vous dis? On se bat à la

00:30:36.020 Langue-Badeloupe, on laisse la porte ouverte, il n'y a pas de

00:30:38.020 problème sur ça. Bon, maintenant, on prendra plus de précautions.

00:30:42.020 Mais oui, je dis la vérité. Vous laissez votre porte ouverte,

00:30:45.020 il n'y a pas de problème sur ça. On peut laisser un enfant dans

00:30:47.020 une maison presque tout seul. On n'a pas le droit de faire ça.

00:30:49.020 Mais on peut laisser un jeune enfant tout seul ou dire,

00:30:52.020 reste là, tu joues et tu ne sors pas. Et ça, ça arrive. Bon, on

00:30:57.020 n'a pas cette situation de l'hexagone de la France. On n'a pas

00:31:01.020 ces situations-là. Par contre, je dis prévenir vaut mieux que

00:31:04.020 guérir. Avec cette expérience que nous avons connue à Sainte-Anne,

00:31:08.020 nous prenons d'autres dispositions à l'avenir. Là, on va s'occuper,

00:31:13.020 s'organiser parce qu'effectivement, on oublie aussi les personnes

00:31:17.020 qui sont alcooliques, les personnes qui ont des stupéfiants.

00:31:20.020 N'avez-vous beaucoup? Est-ce que c'est un problème ici?

00:31:22.020 Eh bien, Guadeloupe, ça commence à prendre un peu. Nous avons des

00:31:25.020 jeunes qui succulent avec des stupéfiants. Nous avons des

00:31:28.020 jeunes qui boivent de l'alcool. Ce conducteur à 45 ans, il est père

00:31:32.020 de deux enfants. Et ses propres enfants étaient devant la roulotte.

00:31:37.020 Faisant la queue aussi, pour acheter les produits alimentaires.

00:31:41.020 Ça veut dire qu'ils auraient pu tuer ses enfants. À l'avenir,

00:31:44.020 si l'année prochaine on fait cette manifestation-là, on prendra

00:31:48.020 des mesures pour pouvoir pallier à ça et penser à ces personnes

00:31:52.020 qui ont des stupéfiants, qui boivent de l'alcool et peut-être

00:31:56.020 autre chose encore. Peut-être... Je ne le souhaite pas. Pourquoi

00:31:59.020 pas aujourd'hui, peut-être qu'on viendra faire un attentat aussi

00:32:02.020 à Sainte-Anne ou au Nwando. Pourquoi pas?

00:32:04.020 Parce qu'on voit en France, il y a vraiment une augmentation

00:32:07.020 de risque de terrorisme. On l'a vu, ils ont vécu beaucoup

00:32:10.020 d'attentats. Est-ce que vous avez des craintes par rapport

00:32:13.020 que ces gens-là puissent justement de venir ici et de

00:32:16.020 commettre peut-être l'irréparable également?

00:32:19.020 Non, on ne peut pas craindre ça, mais je pense qu'il faut être

00:32:23.020 très vigilant. Et sur le plan sécuritaire, l'État français,

00:32:29.020 nous devons mettre ce qu'on appelle des télésouvellances. On n'a pas

00:32:33.020 ça pour le moment. Très peu de villes ont ce dispositif de

00:32:37.020 télésouvellances. Sainte-Anne, nous n'en avons pas. Évidemment,

00:32:40.020 les personnes étrangères qui ont ce qu'on appelle des

00:32:43.020 certificats de séjour ou des sorties comme ça, si nous en

00:32:48.020 avons beaucoup, il faut qu'on puisse prévoir ce dispositif

00:32:52.020 et dire un jour peut-être que ces gens-là vont nous attaquer.

00:32:56.020 Parce que nous ne sommes pas à l'abri. Nous sommes dans un système

00:32:59.020 mondial et que ça peut nous arriver.

00:33:02.020 Donc, nous voyons sur un budget fermé parce que nous

00:33:07.020 pensons que nous devons venir ici pour vérifier les

00:33:11.020 facteurs. Nous sommes ici pour suivre les

00:33:14.020 facteurs et pour vous donner l'autre côté de la

00:33:16.020 histoire. Et pour assurer que toute la information est

00:33:19.020 accurate. Si vous croyez que c'est important que nous

00:33:23.020 nous sommes ici et vous donner la vérité, allez

00:33:27.020 sur la vérité sur Guadeloupe.com. Chippe-en

00:33:32.020 pour nous aider à compenser notre

00:33:34.020 travail expenses. Merci.

00:33:37.020 Well, that's our show for today. Until

00:33:40.020 tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel

00:33:42.020 World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:33:44.020 And keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - December 12, 2025

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Steelworkers unite behind the pipeline vision Canada’s politicians keep ignoring

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