Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ Stuntman Singh doesn't call election after ripping up confidence agreement

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Boy, I was excited when I saw that Jagmeet Singh was breaking off his coalition deal with Justin Trudeau.

00:00:05.980 I thought we'd be headed into an election, but alas, no, it's just, oh, I don't know what it is.

00:00:11.780 We'll try and figure that out today. Our guest for the feature interview is Loren Gunter from the Edmonton Sun.

00:00:18.220 But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.

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00:00:56.580 Tonight, Jagmeet Singh breaks his coalition deal with Justin Trudeau.

00:01:05.280 But are we really going to the election in any hurry?

00:01:07.840 A feature conversation with Loren Gunter.

00:01:10.200 It's September 5th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:12.620 You're fighting for freedom!

00:01:15.860 Shame on you, you censorious bug!

00:01:19.040 Well, Justin Trudeau governs like he has a majority.

00:01:31.520 He governs, in many ways, with an iron fist.

00:01:34.020 He really doesn't care what the opposition says, which is odd, considering how weak his election showing was in the 2021 vote.

00:01:42.160 But he has, as his coalition partner, Jagmeet Singh, who has been occasionally making remarks about how I'm going to hold that Justin Trudeau to account, but then rolls over every single time.

00:01:54.940 This has been going on for years.

00:01:57.400 But then yesterday, something changed.

00:01:59.680 I'm not sure what.

00:02:01.140 And Jagmeet Singh announced that he is no longer going to have a contract, a written agreement, to prop up Justin Trudeau.

00:02:10.260 He didn't say he's going to force the fall of the government-con election.

00:02:14.460 He's just saying, well, Justin Trudeau can't take me quite as for granted anymore.

00:02:19.360 Here, listen to him in his own words.

00:02:20.960 This is Jagmeet Singh yesterday.

00:02:23.040 Today, I notified the Prime Minister that I've ripped up the Supply and Confidence Agreement.

00:02:28.220 Canadians are fighting a battle, a battle for the future of the middle class.

00:02:32.240 Justin Trudeau has proven again and again he will always cave to corporate greed.

00:02:37.100 The Liberals have let people down.

00:02:39.040 They don't deserve another chance.

00:02:41.980 There is an even bigger battle ahead.

00:02:44.760 The threat of Pierre Polyev and Conservative cuts.

00:02:48.900 From workers, from retirees, from young people, from patients, from families.

00:02:55.080 He will cut in order to give more to big corporations and wealthy CEOs.

00:03:00.100 The fact is, the Liberals are too weak, too selfish, and too beholden to corporate interests to fight for people.

00:03:08.360 They cannot be the change.

00:03:10.360 They cannot restore the hope.

00:03:12.260 They cannot stop the Conservatives.

00:03:14.460 But we can.

00:03:15.220 In the next federal election, Canadians will choose between Pierre Polyev's callous cuts or hope.

00:03:22.540 Hope that when we stand united, we win.

00:03:26.280 That Canada's middle class will once again thrive together.

00:03:29.760 In Canada, we take care of our neighbours.

00:03:31.740 That's who we are.

00:03:32.500 I've embraced that value my whole life.

00:03:36.280 I'm running for Prime Minister because together, we can and will stop Conservative cuts.

00:03:42.700 We can deliver relief and restore hope.

00:03:45.940 Fix healthcare.

00:03:47.200 Build homes you can afford.

00:03:48.900 Stop price gouging.

00:03:50.600 It's always impossible until it isn't.

00:03:54.200 It can't be done until someone does it.

00:03:57.140 If we're together, nothing is impossible.

00:04:00.740 And we won't let them tell us it can't be done.

00:04:04.020 Big corporations and wealthy CEOs have had their government.

00:04:08.020 It's the people's time.

00:04:09.580 Well, that sounds very portentous.

00:04:10.940 What's happening?

00:04:11.620 Is he going to force an election?

00:04:14.080 He didn't quite say he did here.

00:04:15.440 Well, today, we had some reactions to him.

00:04:18.760 Let's start out with Justin Trudeau himself.

00:04:21.400 Here's Trudeau's reaction.

00:04:22.700 Take a look.

00:04:23.240 An election will come in the coming year.

00:04:25.900 Hopefully not until next fall.

00:04:27.880 Because in the meantime, we're going to deliver for Canadians.

00:04:31.620 And the contrast with a Conservative leader that wants to cut dental care,

00:04:36.720 cut the school food program, cut insulin through pharmacare,

00:04:42.900 cut the programs that Canadians are relying on to help them through this difficult time,

00:04:48.060 well, that'll be a political decision that Canadians get to take in an election.

00:04:51.660 But in the meantime, I'm not letting down Canadians, and I'm going to stay focused on them. 0.97

00:04:56.060 There's Trudeau's reply.

00:04:57.760 And let's go to Pierre Paulyev to round things out.

00:05:00.600 And then we'll bring in our guest, and we're going to chew things over.

00:05:03.000 Here's Pierre Paulyev, the leader of the opposition.

00:05:05.740 Take a look.

00:05:06.120 And now Sellout Singh has pulled a stunt, the Sellout Singh stunt today,

00:05:13.960 where he came out and claimed that he was wrong, that the coalition was a bad, costly idea,

00:05:21.720 but he refuses to commit to voting for a carbon tax election.

00:05:28.280 So my message to Sellout Singh is this.

00:05:32.500 If you're serious about ending your costly carbon tax coalition with Trudeau,

00:05:39.540 then commit today to voting for a carbon tax election

00:05:46.300 at the earliest confidence vote in the House of Commons.

00:05:50.900 That way we can have a carbon tax election where Canadians will decide

00:05:59.260 between the costly coalition of Trudeau and Sellout Singh

00:06:03.980 that tax your food, punish your work, take your money, double your housing costs,

00:06:09.540 and unleash crime and drugs on your street,

00:06:12.020 or common-sense conservatives who will axe the tax, build the homes,

00:06:17.360 fix the budget, and stop the crime.

00:06:19.460 Well, there you have it, the three major party leaders.

00:06:23.020 What does it all mean?

00:06:23.820 Does it mean anything at all?

00:06:25.600 Joining us now via Skype from Alberta's capital city of Edmonton

00:06:29.180 to talk about is our friend Lorne Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun.

00:06:32.580 Lorne, great to see you again.

00:06:33.960 Just the other day before this announcement was made by Singh,

00:06:37.220 you were sort of laughing about Singh and saying there was really nothing he couldn't abide.

00:06:42.080 There was no humiliation he couldn't, except from Justin Trudeau.

00:06:45.840 It was almost like you had a premonition.

00:06:48.240 Remind us what you were saying right before Singh buckled.

00:06:52.680 So, in 1983, Brian Mulroney beat Joe Clark out of Clark's job.

00:07:00.300 Clark had been the leader of the PCs and the prime minister.

00:07:03.380 Mulroney beat him out, took both those jobs.

00:07:06.140 And Clark decided to stick around and serve in Mulroney's cabinet.

00:07:10.240 And then in 1991, Mulroney put Clark in charge of negotiating a new constitutional deal

00:07:15.900 among the provinces except Quebec that would then be presented to Quebec.

00:07:19.760 And when he finally got one, Mulroney was out of the country and Clark announced it.

00:07:24.880 And then Mulroney flew back in a hurry and said, no, no, no, no, no.

00:07:28.820 Joe was wrong.

00:07:29.620 There really isn't the deal.

00:07:31.120 The man had an infinite capacity for political humiliation.

00:07:36.360 Tom Flanagan, who you know, a U of C prof, said at the time that Clark had the highest threshold

00:07:43.200 for humiliation of anyone in Canadian politics.

00:07:46.520 And I said, yes, until now.

00:07:48.980 And he'd been replaced by Singh.

00:07:51.480 I mean, Singh has spent the last two and a half years swallowing all of the garbage that

00:07:57.120 the liberals threw at them.

00:07:59.180 He said, oh, we have a pharmacare deal.

00:08:01.120 No, you don't.

00:08:01.840 You're covering a couple of drugs.

00:08:03.640 We have a denticare deal.

00:08:04.880 No, you don't.

00:08:05.780 There are very few dentists who are actually participating in it.

00:08:08.980 And some provinces have pulled out.

00:08:10.880 Oh, but we have a school food.

00:08:13.140 No, you don't.

00:08:14.680 You're shy about, oh, six million kids in the program.

00:08:20.020 It just doesn't cover anybody.

00:08:22.560 And so on issue after issue after issue, the liberals would say they lived up to Singh's

00:08:29.360 promises.

00:08:29.780 And Singh would just sort of, in a meek little way, lap that all up and continue voting for

00:08:36.880 the liberals.

00:08:37.500 And it was embarrassing.

00:08:40.580 But I don't think anything has changed.

00:08:43.140 I mean, to answer your lead-in question, I don't think that Singh's announcement on Wednesday

00:08:50.460 changes anything.

00:08:52.220 Because he has now said, we will only support them on a case-by-case basis.

00:08:56.780 Well, effectively, that's what they've been doing.

00:08:59.780 For the last two and a half years.

00:09:01.740 And I think the only thing that will come of this is that taxpayers in Canada will be

00:09:05.700 harder hit.

00:09:07.120 Because the liberals will have to spend even more money to get either the bloc or the NDP

00:09:13.440 to hold them in office.

00:09:15.140 Of all those clips that we just saw, I think the funniest and at the same time, the most

00:09:22.000 infuriating thing that was said was Trudeau said, well, I hope there's not an election

00:09:26.500 for another year because we're planning to spend the next 12 months delivering on those

00:09:31.760 things that we've promised Canadians.

00:09:34.220 They've been in power for nine years.

00:09:36.340 I mean, why are we waiting until the last 12 months for Justin Trudeau to actually figure

00:09:41.460 out how to solve housing, how to solve inflation, how to solve crime?

00:09:45.320 These are all problems his government has created.

00:09:49.960 I actually was a little surprised when I saw Paulie's remarks yesterday, this morning.

00:09:54.640 Sorry.

00:09:55.120 I saw them this morning.

00:09:56.520 I thought he was weak.

00:09:57.500 I thought he was contrived.

00:09:58.440 I thought he kept trying too hard to show the contents of his T-shirt.

00:10:01.940 And he didn't go after the fact that the liberals and the NDP together for the last two and a

00:10:08.340 half years, the liberals for the last nine, have created all of these problems.

00:10:13.080 This liberal bail reform that's led to all the increase in violent crime, much of the

00:10:19.220 increase in violent crime.

00:10:20.440 It's liberal safe supply that's led to all the open drug use in public places. 0.99

00:10:25.360 It's liberal spending policies and liberal interest policies that have led to the unaffordability

00:10:31.700 of ordinary middle-class staples like food and gasoline and electricity in your home.

00:10:38.440 I mean, those are all liberal NDP-created problems.

00:10:43.940 And that's what I think Paulie have needs to keep hammering at.

00:10:46.780 But it just infuriates me when Trudeau seems to think that, oh, well, you know, it's Pierre

00:10:54.320 Polyev, who's going to hand everything over to big corporations and make huge cuts into

00:11:00.860 programs that you middle-class Canadians are depending on.

00:11:03.860 They create these dinky little programs that have no real impact on inflation or housing

00:11:10.040 or crime or anything like that to correct problems they created.

00:11:15.760 And then they say, oh, that miserable Pierre Polyev, he's going to cut all those programs

00:11:22.800 you've come to depend on at exactly the wrong time.

00:11:25.840 Well, now, if you just reversed a lot of liberal policies, you'd get rid of all of that stuff

00:11:30.240 quite simply.

00:11:32.020 I mean, this is the worst government Canada has ever had, period.

00:11:38.340 Yeah.

00:11:38.860 And so I don't want to hear from Trudeau.

00:11:42.080 And I don't think Singh is going to pull the plug on these guys anytime soon.

00:11:46.600 Yeah, I mean, I think the difference between today and yesterday is yesterday, Singh basically

00:11:55.760 said to Trudeau, it's a buffet.

00:11:58.420 You can have everything and anything because we're yours.

00:12:00.900 And now you can just order them a la carte.

00:12:02.940 You'll just have to have them for each dish off the menu.

00:12:06.580 Or another way to look at it is you owned us before.

00:12:09.640 Now you've got to rent us.

00:12:11.180 So I think he might actually extract a little bit more because he's going to make demands

00:12:16.820 on a more frequent basis.

00:12:18.440 But Jagmeet Singh is doing very poorly in the polls.

00:12:22.240 From what I understand, I'd have to freshen my memory, I don't think they're doing well

00:12:26.580 fundraising-wise.

00:12:28.380 I don't think he wants to go to the polls himself.

00:12:31.340 I think he just realized that Justin Trudeau is so hated.

00:12:35.480 I mean, David Colletto, who works for the pollster Abacus, he's my favorite pollster to quote

00:12:41.220 because I know he's not particularly sympathetic to the conservatives.

00:12:44.800 So when he says something that is in their favor, I know he's not saying it easily.

00:12:49.260 So I can trust him more.

00:12:51.700 He says that when people look at Trudeau, they're more likely to hate him than just to dislike

00:12:58.140 him, which is interesting.

00:12:59.780 Normally, it's sort of like a bell curve.

00:13:01.820 Most people are okay, a little bit of dislike, a little bit of like.

00:13:04.360 And it's only the margins that they love you or hate you.

00:13:07.560 With Trudeau, there's hate.

00:13:09.280 I think it's people feeling let down, people feeling disillusioned, people just sick of

00:13:15.260 him, sick of that voice, sick of that dramatic actor's style, sick of how he never takes any

00:13:22.640 blame.

00:13:23.480 I just think that Jagmeet Singh has finally realized that he is hitched to the most hated

00:13:28.980 man in politics.

00:13:30.280 And he wants to get a little bit of room between them, but he doesn't want to stop supporting

00:13:34.080 him.

00:13:34.200 That's my view.

00:13:35.580 No, I think that's right.

00:13:36.360 And the NDP do not want to go to an election now, because as you said, in the last two months,

00:13:42.980 over the summer of 23, it was the liberal support that collapsed, completely collapsed.

00:13:50.000 You could see it in the polls.

00:13:51.120 Day after day after day, they came down and down and down and down.

00:13:54.120 They have never recovered from that.

00:13:56.060 This summer, it was the NDP that came down and down and down.

00:14:00.760 They've lost about a quarter of the support that they had going into summer.

00:14:04.760 And I bet you that doesn't come back either.

00:14:07.080 So Singh is hoping against hope that if he pulls away from Trudeau a little tiny bit, he will

00:14:15.240 raise his party standing up at least high enough that they can win the same 25 seats that they

00:14:23.080 won last time.

00:14:24.020 Because right now, they're headed for about 13 or 14 seats.

00:14:29.240 They get half their caucus, which is 26 members.

00:14:33.960 Half their caucus is in B.C.

00:14:36.820 They are at risk of coming out of B.C. with only four or five seats.

00:14:42.140 So he's hoping that if he gets a little distance from Trudeau, he can get back up to at least

00:14:49.080 no net loss from the 2021 election.

00:14:53.740 And they have their fundraising.

00:14:56.040 You're correct in saying that it's collapsed, too.

00:14:59.240 Because why would you give money to the NDP if all you're going to get out of that is

00:15:05.260 reinforcement of liberal policy?

00:15:07.760 So he had to sort of show that.

00:15:09.620 And he said it in that video.

00:15:11.240 I tore up the agreement.

00:15:13.880 Yeah.

00:15:14.360 So what?

00:15:15.180 Yeah.

00:15:15.660 But you're still effectively abiding it.

00:15:18.300 And Polly, I've had it right.

00:15:20.440 He said, look, if Jagmeet Singh is serious about this, he will say right now, on the first

00:15:30.040 opportunity when Parliament returns after the 20th of September, I and my party will vote

00:15:36.480 non-confidence in this government and bring it down and force an election.

00:15:40.520 That would be clarified.

00:15:42.800 If I were in the railroad unions who were furious with him, the railroad unions were furious with

00:15:47.680 Trudeau because Trudeau had said to Singh, well, Singh at first threatened Trudeau he would

00:15:53.400 pull out of this agreement if Trudeau intervened in the rail strike.

00:15:57.580 It took 17 hours after the rail strike began for Trudeau to intervene and send it to binding

00:16:04.600 arbitration.

00:16:05.120 So the NDP and the rail unions were furious.

00:16:09.920 The NDP caucus told Singh, apparently, I don't know this directly, but I've been told it by

00:16:15.520 several people around the Hill.

00:16:17.820 The NDP caucus apparently told Singh that he was going to have to face their wrath at their

00:16:23.780 retreat just before Parliament returns if he didn't tear up this agreement, because now

00:16:29.800 the Liberals had crossed the line that even the sycophantic New Democrats in his caucus

00:16:35.720 could no longer abide.

00:16:38.260 And the rail unions were going to throw the weight of the private sector union movement

00:16:42.980 behind, guess what, behind Pierre Poliev.

00:16:47.600 Wow.

00:16:48.080 If, you know, if Singh, you can see that.

00:16:51.660 I mean, a lot of the private sector unions are probably going to sit out the next election. 0.94

00:16:55.640 They don't like the Liberals.

00:16:56.980 They're a little afraid of the PCs.

00:17:00.560 But Pierre Poliev has done a much better job of speaking to where ordinary people are.

00:17:06.380 And you have to remember now that union members are no longer working class.

00:17:11.800 They're largely middle class.

00:17:13.320 If you are in a union and you are a government worker, wow, you're above middle class, you're 0.98

00:17:18.360 upper middle class.

00:17:19.420 If you are in a private sector union, you're no longer working class, you're middle class.

00:17:24.240 And so when people talk about middle class issues and how it's affecting Canadians, it's

00:17:27.840 affecting labor unions in the private sector every bit as much.

00:17:32.220 And so there is attracted to Poliev and their solutions as they are to either of the other

00:17:36.280 two parties in English Canada.

00:17:38.260 And so there was this perfect storm of anger on the left and union threats and resentment

00:17:47.800 by Singh's own caucus.

00:17:50.480 And he had to do something.

00:17:52.400 So what he has done is in name only, he has torn up the supply and confidence agreement.

00:18:00.420 Yeah.

00:18:00.780 So watch.

00:18:01.700 Wow.

00:18:02.300 I didn't realize what a big role the rail strike played.

00:18:06.420 I want to go back to the videos of the three men we showed, because each of them, there

00:18:10.340 was something I'd like to remark on.

00:18:12.200 And you touched on it there by saying that labor unions in 2024, I mean, the government

00:18:18.120 sector labor unions, they're going to go liberal every time or even NDP.

00:18:22.280 Or NDP.

00:18:23.020 Yeah.

00:18:23.400 But private sector unions, it would be really weird for them to go for the NDP or the liberals,

00:18:29.120 because as you say, it's guys making low six figures.

00:18:32.860 You know, it's hard, like hardworking guys, but they have a level of wealth and they typically

00:18:38.320 have, it's hardworking men who tilt conservative.

00:18:42.640 And I want to show you just very quick clips.

00:18:44.840 I don't want to play too long.

00:18:46.340 But when Jagmeet Singh was talking about standing with the workers and standing against the rich

00:18:52.580 CEOs, I thought, who are you?

00:18:55.740 You think you're Tommy Douglas?

00:18:57.180 I mean, I don't know if you saw it out there in Edmonton, but in Toronto, there's sort of

00:19:01.580 a fancy fashion sort of upmarket magazine called Toronto Life.

00:19:06.940 And it's sort of an aspirational style mag.

00:19:11.000 And Jagmeet Singh, who's a handsome man, posed for a series of glamour shots in his fine bespoke

00:19:17.700 suits, and he's got a BMW, and he's a wealthy man who has, he's a handsome man, but he dresses

00:19:25.720 like he's a model, and he drops, I don't know where he gets his money from, but the guy's rich.

00:19:30.640 For him to say he's with the working class, it just doesn't really ring true.

00:19:35.300 Here's Pierre Polyev, who he accuses of being anti-labor and pro-CEO.

00:19:38.720 I just want to give you two clips, and I'm not going to play it long, but this is, I just

00:19:42.560 saw this the other day.

00:19:43.680 I don't know if you saw it, Lauren.

00:19:44.620 And Pierre Polyev put out a video on Labor Day that I thought, you know what, he is going

00:19:51.920 for working class conservatives, sort of like Trump did.

00:19:56.320 Trump, the billionaire, well, I think he knew how to talk to the working class.

00:19:59.580 Here's a clip of Pierre Polyev on Labor Day.

00:20:02.040 Tell me who is going to connect more with workers, fancy-pantsy Jagmeet Singh or fairly

00:20:08.420 normal guy, Pierre Polyev, with this kind of a vid.

00:20:12.000 A country is built by the people who rise when it is still dark.

00:20:17.400 The servers and soldiers, the farmers and factory hands, the nurses and night shift workers,

00:20:24.840 often called ordinary people, but they are extraordinary.

00:20:28.780 They carry the government on their backs, with little reward.

00:20:34.600 You now pay more to bring home less.

00:20:37.200 That is if you can afford a home at all.

00:20:40.480 Many live in fear of crime and chaos.

00:20:43.720 But there is a new dawn rising, where hard work is rewarded, where there's affordable food

00:20:50.020 and a home in a safe neighbourhood, where everyone gets a fair shot at a good life,

00:20:56.480 where common sense is common, and where, after the night, no matter how long or dark,

00:21:06.500 comes morning.

00:21:07.460 Let's bring it home.

00:21:11.600 So that's Pierre Polyev speaking quite honestly and candidly.

00:21:15.640 I mean, it feels authentic.

00:21:17.480 Compare that to what he said about CEOs.

00:21:20.800 He practically sounds like a Marxist when he's bashing CEOs as a class.

00:21:26.360 He says, don't you send your lobbies to me.

00:21:28.480 And, you know, he's not the kind of guy who would go to, you mentioned Mulroney earlier,

00:21:35.620 Mulroney would hang out with the council of CEOs.

00:21:38.800 I forget what it used to be called.

00:21:39.940 They used to be big players, this council of CEOs, like the plutocrat club.

00:21:46.280 Here's Pierre Polyev from a few months ago, where he basically says,

00:21:50.440 I don't give a damn about your CEOs.

00:21:52.120 Take a look at this.

00:21:52.820 This is the first time I have spoken to either a chamber of commerce or a board of trade

00:21:58.240 since I became leader of the Common Sense Conservatives two years ago.

00:22:02.480 During that time, I have spoken at 110 shop floors and five union local facilities.

00:22:10.940 And the reason why this is only my first chamber or board of trade

00:22:16.020 is nothing to do with my view on business.

00:22:17.760 I love business.

00:22:18.640 I love free enterprise.

00:22:19.860 I love the people who risk their entire worth in order, their entire family savings

00:22:29.280 in order to start a business and build their dreams.

00:22:33.580 Rather, the reason this is my first time speaking to a business association of this type

00:22:39.900 is because my experience with the corporate lobbyists in Ottawa, the main groups there,

00:22:45.480 have been that they have been utterly useless in advancing any common sense interests for the people on the ground.

00:22:56.280 The corporate lobbyists in Ottawa are focused on getting lunches with ministers at the Rideau Club

00:23:02.320 or showing off their latest ESG brochure

00:23:06.360 or expecting that politicians are going to do things for them

00:23:11.120 without actually convincing the people on the ground of the benefit to them.

00:23:17.240 My common sense plan to axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget, stop the crime

00:23:22.420 is a bottom-up free enterprise agenda, not a top-down state capitalism agenda.

00:23:29.100 It is not about politicians and CEOs working together for their own interests.

00:23:36.200 It is about unleashing the power of free enterprise

00:23:38.660 so that workers and entrepreneurs and consumers

00:23:42.280 can exchange the voluntary purchase of goods for services,

00:23:48.720 goods for dollars, of investment for interest, and of work for wages.

00:23:53.560 So I just don't think it's going to stick.

00:23:56.720 And when you look at demographic support for Pierre Paulyev,

00:23:59.540 I think he's going to get more working-class support than Jagmeet Singh.

00:24:03.760 And let me ramble for one more minute, Lauren.

00:24:07.060 In Trudeau's clip, he talked about the big corporations.

00:24:10.160 Who's giving tens of billions of dollars to foreign automakers

00:24:15.080 to build electrical cars in Ontario?

00:24:17.940 That's not the conservatives, the so-called party of the little guy,

00:24:23.380 the coalition between Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau.

00:24:26.040 They've given tens of billions of dollars in subsidies

00:24:29.100 to the richest multinational companies around.

00:24:31.480 I don't know.

00:24:31.920 I just don't think that their class struggle,

00:24:35.220 traditional arguments are working in 2024.

00:24:37.920 No, they're not.

00:24:38.760 And it's interesting.

00:24:39.460 And there's never a direct parallel

00:24:42.580 between American politics and Canadian politics.

00:24:45.060 But this week, the New York Times had some fascinating polling numbers

00:24:49.460 on swing voters, people who are neither dedicated Democrats

00:24:54.000 nor staunch Republicans.

00:24:57.040 And they tended to be more men.

00:25:01.040 They tended to be in trades and in skilled positions

00:25:05.160 rather than in academic positions or professions.

00:25:09.460 And the number one thing for them,

00:25:12.620 it's interesting, it was an interesting combination.

00:25:15.540 It was economic, standard of living, cost of living issues

00:25:21.560 and woke agenda.

00:25:25.160 And if we're at all like that in Canada,

00:25:30.060 there are an awful lot of people who are adrift at the moment

00:25:33.020 because the two parties that they would normally have chosen

00:25:35.900 between the Liberals and the New Democrats,

00:25:38.160 neither one of them represents their interests

00:25:40.360 nor knows how to speak to them, nor understands where they're at

00:25:44.020 in the given moment, you know, who don't care.

00:25:48.580 They're not worried about whether or not there is a capital gains tax

00:25:53.320 on wealthy Canadians and CEOs,

00:25:56.120 which is an obsession of both the NDP and the Liberals.

00:25:59.540 What they care about is somebody who's saying,

00:26:01.600 look, I understand that it's gotten harder

00:26:04.200 every time you go to the grocery store

00:26:06.240 for you to fill your cart with the food that your family needs.

00:26:09.440 And we're going to do everything we can to bring those prices down.

00:26:13.400 The NDP and the Liberals say,

00:26:14.980 oh, that's because there are nasty, greedy CEOs

00:26:18.660 in charge of all of the groceries.

00:26:20.700 No, it's not.

00:26:21.600 It's because you put taxes on everything that moves.

00:26:25.280 If I'm going to try and plow a field,

00:26:28.480 I got a carbon tax.

00:26:29.420 Well, there's some of the farmers' stuff

00:26:31.680 doesn't have carbon tax on it.

00:26:32.840 But pretty much everything,

00:26:34.200 from tilling the soil to driving the trucks to the grocery store

00:26:37.880 to you driving to the grocery store to get it,

00:26:40.420 you've increased the price because you put a carbon tax on it.

00:26:43.340 And then you spent so much money

00:26:45.180 that you drove up inflation on the monetary side.

00:26:49.680 And then, you know, you've allowed in last year

00:26:53.860 about 2.3 million new Canadians,

00:26:58.000 all of whom are, I don't blame them.

00:27:01.120 You and I have had this conversation before.

00:27:02.580 I do not blame the people who have been let in legally

00:27:04.940 by this government.

00:27:06.980 But they're all looking for healthcare.

00:27:08.780 They're all looking for jobs.

00:27:09.940 They're all looking for housing.

00:27:11.280 That's, of course, pushed the price up

00:27:13.500 on all of those things in the free market

00:27:15.660 and reduced the availability of them in the public sector.

00:27:20.280 So, you know, who created this mess?

00:27:23.440 It's not CEOs and wealthy Canadians.

00:27:26.760 It's funny, the Privy Council office,

00:27:28.840 before the federal budget came out in April,

00:27:31.760 did some focus groups in February

00:27:34.060 where they put out potential,

00:27:36.100 what were potential themes from the federal government

00:27:42.000 about what might go into the budget.

00:27:44.340 And they were pushing,

00:27:47.680 the access to information stuff showed,

00:27:50.380 they were pushing this idea

00:27:52.320 that the wealthy should pay a greater share.

00:27:54.600 The wealthy, the wealthy, the wealthy.

00:27:56.060 They're getting away with murder.

00:27:57.380 They're, you know, financial murder.

00:27:59.260 They're the ones who are keeping you down.

00:28:03.180 It's real class warfare stuff.

00:28:05.900 And the focus group said,

00:28:07.880 no, no, we're not interested in that.

00:28:09.600 What we're interested in is people

00:28:11.020 who can bring down the cost of living

00:28:13.020 and help us to buy our first home

00:28:15.000 because the prices are too high.

00:28:17.240 And so it is that bread and butter material

00:28:20.000 that I think Polyev excels at.

00:28:23.140 And the other two are just off

00:28:24.880 in some sort of Marxist wonderland,

00:28:27.460 blaming the head of Loblaws.

00:28:31.180 You know, it's funny.

00:28:32.600 I looked at Loblaws' financials just yesterday

00:28:35.080 by coincidence.

00:28:36.500 And if I'm not mistaken,

00:28:37.740 their rate of return on investment is 3.3%.

00:28:42.100 So, and listen, I hate Loblaws for another reason.

00:28:45.940 They were part of the bread price fixing scheme

00:28:48.760 that literally took billions of dollars

00:28:51.120 worth of bread out of the mouths of poor people.

00:28:53.880 I despise Loblaws.

00:28:55.000 But they're not really the profiteers

00:28:57.980 driving out the prices.

00:29:00.060 I mean, I'm not here to defend them.

00:29:01.880 It's, they're not making a lot of dough.

00:29:03.620 It's the inflation you talk about,

00:29:05.600 which is largely a government creation.

00:29:08.100 You mentioned briefly the New York Times

00:29:09.720 talking about people thinking about woke issues.

00:29:12.660 And I jotted down three here.

00:29:15.820 Woke issues, even sometimes conservative media

00:29:18.680 are scared to talk about it.

00:29:21.380 Mickey Kaus has a phrase, the under news.

00:29:23.560 It's under, you know, the news talks about official things,

00:29:26.460 but what do people talk about at the water cooler

00:29:28.660 over coffee when they can be quiet

00:29:31.520 and no one's sort of paying,

00:29:32.560 no one's going to cancel them

00:29:33.820 if they say the wrong thing.

00:29:35.540 He always put immigration as an under news issue.

00:29:39.900 And that's breaking through into the real news these days

00:29:42.960 because it's just so astonishingly large.

00:29:45.800 But transgenderism, people are worried about that.

00:29:48.640 Men in sports, the Olympics, again,

00:29:51.260 it broke into the larger discussion,

00:29:54.020 but it's anyone who's got a daughter

00:29:56.220 in school sports knows about it.

00:29:58.580 Anyone who goes into a change room

00:30:00.820 and sees a bloke in there knows about it.

00:30:03.160 And the drug legalization of, quote, safe supply,

00:30:09.860 these are things that people know are new.

00:30:13.300 They were always a bit of a problem,

00:30:14.640 but they've just been accelerated and crime.

00:30:16.620 And Pauly, I've mentioned some of that.

00:30:18.500 He had a weird start in his video.

00:30:20.880 He talked about the carbon tax election.

00:30:22.840 It didn't really, like, I think he took him 30 seconds

00:30:26.500 to find his feet there.

00:30:27.740 But when he started to talk about drugs and crime again,

00:30:31.380 and I think he found his feet again,

00:30:34.980 those woke issues, and by the way,

00:30:37.320 they're very strong in immigrant communities.

00:30:39.280 Do you think the Chinese-Canadian community

00:30:40.980 is thrilled with transgenderism, legalized drugs, 1.00

00:30:45.580 or the crime wave?

00:30:46.940 No, they're not.

00:30:47.980 So I think those things click a lot more

00:30:51.300 rather than the conservatives refer the CEOs.

00:30:54.580 Like you said, I just don't think that's clicking.

00:30:56.680 It's like they're generals fighting the last war.

00:30:58.920 It's like neither Trudeau nor Jagmeet Singh

00:31:01.760 have updated their talking points

00:31:03.640 since Stephen Harper's demise.

00:31:06.060 Yeah, so one quick example

00:31:08.380 of the sort of thing you're talking about.

00:31:09.700 The Liberals appointed a senator from Alberta

00:31:14.800 on the weekend who is not just an advocate

00:31:19.240 for the LGBTQ community.

00:31:21.980 He is a very, very aggressive activist

00:31:25.880 for the LGBTQ community.

00:31:28.540 In fact, he did at one time put out an ad,

00:31:35.960 sorry, a cartoon,

00:31:36.960 that equated Christians to Nazis

00:31:39.860 and LGBTQ to Jewish victims.

00:31:44.680 Right.

00:31:45.280 Which is appalling.

00:31:46.440 It's absolutely appalling.

00:31:47.620 Yeah.

00:31:48.020 But they appointed him because they were hoping,

00:31:51.280 this is my speculation,

00:31:53.240 they were hoping his appointment

00:31:54.800 would set off a firestorm

00:31:57.220 against LGBTQ issues,

00:32:00.820 or at least against him,

00:32:03.100 which they could then interpret

00:32:04.520 as an attack on the LGBTQ community broadly.

00:32:09.080 It hasn't done that.

00:32:10.640 But why would they want to do that?

00:32:13.160 Well, it's because they have a lot of MPs

00:32:16.040 in ridings that have large immigrant populations

00:32:20.420 where LGBTQ issues are not popular.

00:32:24.160 So they can't, as an official party,

00:32:26.760 come out and say things

00:32:28.400 that are LGBTQ friendly.

00:32:31.480 They were hoping to create,

00:32:33.900 to get, to provoke the conservatives

00:32:35.460 and the Christian communities

00:32:37.080 into saying nasty things about LGBTQ

00:32:40.940 and then reaping the rewards of that.

00:32:43.240 But so far, hasn't happened.

00:32:45.260 Yeah.

00:32:45.380 You know, we've been following that closely

00:32:47.400 and the fact that Trudeau made that announcement

00:32:49.520 on the Labor Day long weekend,

00:32:51.700 I think was really telling.

00:32:53.660 Lorne, I don't know if you know this,

00:32:54.580 but we put up a petition

00:32:55.480 called notmysenator.ca.

00:32:57.520 We got nearly 25,000 signatures

00:33:00.160 in like two days.

00:33:01.680 There's a lot of people,

00:33:02.780 it's not just that Chris Wells is,

00:33:06.160 it's not just that he's for gay rights,

00:33:08.300 he's for transitioning minor children,

00:33:11.480 as in the drugs, the hormones,

00:33:13.740 and their irreversible surgery

00:33:16.180 for minor children

00:33:18.160 and to keep that out of the realm of parents.

00:33:21.840 A lot of sports organizations,

00:33:24.020 not a lot,

00:33:24.720 some major sports organizations,

00:33:27.040 the Federation of International Swimming Associations,

00:33:30.120 for one,

00:33:31.520 have rules now

00:33:32.880 and they've adopted them in the last year or two

00:33:34.640 that say that once you have reached puberty,

00:33:37.360 there are permanent changes made

00:33:41.580 in the male body

00:33:43.380 that give them advantages in sport.

00:33:45.740 Even if they're only 12 or 13

00:33:47.440 at the time it happens,

00:33:48.660 it still changes muscle mass,

00:33:50.280 it changes bone density,

00:33:51.360 it changes all sorts of things

00:33:53.260 that give men who then transition to women 0.83

00:33:56.720 unfair advantages in sports.

00:33:59.000 So the rule is now,

00:34:00.600 if you reach puberty in swimming,

00:34:03.680 you can never compete as a woman. 1.00

00:34:05.960 Well, that's why people like Chris Wells

00:34:09.420 and other activists in that community

00:34:11.760 have decided that you need to have

00:34:13.700 puberty-blocking drugs

00:34:14.980 for 11- and 12-year-olds

00:34:16.540 who are thinking of transitioning

00:34:17.900 so that if they choose later

00:34:19.700 to go into sports,

00:34:21.360 they haven't gone through puberty

00:34:22.600 and therefore they would still qualify.

00:34:24.820 Oh my God.

00:34:26.400 It's so,

00:34:26.920 it's so,

00:34:27.440 you know what,

00:34:27.960 I was in the UK

00:34:30.060 and I heard a speech by a man

00:34:31.480 who leads something called

00:34:32.340 the Gay Men's Network.

00:34:34.540 He was speaking at a conference.

00:34:35.540 I wanted to hear what he had to say.

00:34:37.220 And he said if he were born today,

00:34:40.000 he would have been transed.

00:34:42.780 That people would have said,

00:34:44.960 oh, you're not gay, 0.98

00:34:45.840 you're a woman trapped in a man's body, 1.00

00:34:47.320 we've got to chop you up. 0.94

00:34:48.640 He actually said transgenderism,

00:34:50.500 as it is expressed by the Radical Edge,

00:34:53.800 is actually an anti-gay men's movement.

00:34:56.620 I was shocked to hear that.

00:34:57.520 I'd never heard that formulation before

00:34:59.320 because he said,

00:35:00.680 what if you're just a gay man?

00:35:02.940 What if you're just gay? 0.69

00:35:05.060 They say,

00:35:06.220 no,

00:35:06.420 we've got to transition you.

00:35:07.680 He said they would have

00:35:08.500 gone to work on him

00:35:09.900 and destroyed his life.

00:35:11.700 Anyhow,

00:35:12.260 I had never heard

00:35:13.180 that perspective before.

00:35:14.360 No, neither have I.

00:35:15.120 And to give a national seat

00:35:18.680 to a guy who has spent

00:35:19.660 20 years on this,

00:35:21.140 I think it's outside the norm

00:35:22.400 for Alberta Values.

00:35:23.180 But the thing about Alberta

00:35:24.040 is it actually has senators elect.

00:35:26.180 Of course.

00:35:26.600 People who,

00:35:27.600 actually,

00:35:28.060 I remember 20 plus years ago,

00:35:29.660 I was involved with the Reform Party

00:35:31.140 when we helped get some senators elected

00:35:33.280 because the entire province of Alberta

00:35:35.600 is one riding.

00:35:38.080 These senators elect

00:35:39.060 have hundreds of thousands of votes.

00:35:41.220 There's no MLA or MP

00:35:42.480 who gets hundreds of thousands of votes

00:35:44.420 in a day

00:35:45.540 because their districts are small.

00:35:47.840 But if your district

00:35:48.620 is the whole province of Alberta,

00:35:50.720 you'll rack up

00:35:52.360 such a huge democratic mandate.

00:35:54.600 So you've got these people

00:35:55.640 sitting in Alberta,

00:35:56.440 they call themselves

00:35:57.440 senators elect.

00:35:59.080 Sort of like senators

00:35:59.780 in waiting.

00:36:01.140 Senators in waiting.

00:36:02.660 And so it wasn't just

00:36:03.920 that Trudeau chose someone

00:36:05.020 outside the norm.

00:36:06.360 He chose someone

00:36:07.300 in the face

00:36:08.360 of these Alberta elections.

00:36:09.860 And that too,

00:36:10.420 I think he was hoping for,

00:36:11.840 to provoke a reaction.

00:36:12.800 Yeah,

00:36:12.900 Ketchum had done the same thing.

00:36:14.120 Liberal prime ministers

00:36:15.180 have appointed senators

00:36:17.200 in the face of Albertans' desires

00:36:19.220 for decades.

00:36:20.540 That really isn't anything new.

00:36:23.260 And it's a slap

00:36:24.480 to the idea

00:36:25.620 that we should elect

00:36:27.200 our own senators.

00:36:29.520 But,

00:36:30.020 yeah,

00:36:30.660 it's,

00:36:31.000 you know,

00:36:31.360 this was

00:36:32.660 more than just that.

00:36:34.620 It was a trick

00:36:35.340 to try and provoke

00:36:36.540 a backlash

00:36:37.600 against Chris Wells

00:36:38.760 which hasn't yet materialized

00:36:40.960 because the liberals

00:36:43.020 cannot

00:36:43.860 push 0.64

00:36:45.620 the LGBTQ agenda

00:36:47.560 the way they would like to

00:36:48.840 because in many

00:36:49.980 of their writings,

00:36:50.720 particularly in Ontario

00:36:51.940 and in Quebec,

00:36:53.520 they have large,

00:36:55.240 mostly Muslim

00:36:56.060 but not necessarily

00:36:56.860 just Muslim populations.

00:36:58.620 They have new

00:36:59.780 Canadian populations

00:37:00.800 who don't support

00:37:02.420 their LGBTQ agenda

00:37:03.940 and so therefore

00:37:05.060 they can't be

00:37:05.860 upfront and honest

00:37:07.160 about it.

00:37:07.800 They have to do it

00:37:08.680 this sneaky back doorway.

00:37:10.520 Yeah.

00:37:10.820 You've been very generous

00:37:11.880 with your time.

00:37:12.400 I just have two more questions

00:37:13.480 for you that I'd like

00:37:14.280 your thoughts on.

00:37:16.240 You saw

00:37:17.380 Trudeau talk about

00:37:18.980 an election

00:37:19.760 next fall.

00:37:20.680 So that would be

00:37:21.200 fall 2025

00:37:22.540 which would be

00:37:23.320 four years

00:37:24.160 from his last mandate

00:37:25.660 which is sort of

00:37:26.280 traditional

00:37:26.620 although he went

00:37:27.740 sooner than that.

00:37:28.660 He went 2019,

00:37:29.620 2021

00:37:30.000 so he can move quicker

00:37:31.580 if he thinks it's

00:37:32.180 in his interest.

00:37:33.360 So he was hoping

00:37:34.980 he'd get another year.

00:37:37.480 Pierre Polyev said

00:37:38.240 no,

00:37:38.540 call a confidence

00:37:39.260 question as soon

00:37:40.140 as possible.

00:37:41.260 What's your feeling?

00:37:42.460 Do you think that

00:37:43.320 despite the announcement

00:37:44.960 yesterday,

00:37:46.000 Jagmeet Singh

00:37:46.600 will be there

00:37:47.120 for his buddy

00:37:47.780 he'll be

00:37:49.380 the happy sidekick

00:37:50.800 for a full year

00:37:53.140 or do you think

00:37:53.680 there will be something

00:37:54.440 that precipitates

00:37:55.380 a falling out?

00:37:56.980 If it's nine months

00:37:58.420 or 12 months

00:37:59.100 what does it matter?

00:38:00.280 They're going to continue

00:38:00.960 to do damage

00:38:01.820 to Canada

00:38:02.380 throughout that period.

00:38:05.040 It's not imminent.

00:38:05.460 Do I think we could go

00:38:10.060 in April, May or June?

00:38:13.000 Yes, I think that's

00:38:13.860 probably more likely

00:38:14.920 now than October

00:38:15.800 but you have

00:38:17.500 a number of MPs

00:38:19.300 mostly Liberals

00:38:20.700 and New Democrats

00:38:21.220 but some Conservatives too

00:38:22.620 who do not get

00:38:24.100 their pensions

00:38:25.140 fully vested

00:38:26.080 unless they go

00:38:28.040 until late October

00:38:29.300 of 2025.

00:38:30.600 Now Singh

00:38:31.100 his pension vests

00:38:32.500 in February

00:38:33.200 of next year

00:38:34.120 because he was elected

00:38:35.200 in a by-election

00:38:36.020 before the election

00:38:38.460 six years ago

00:38:39.380 so he could pull

00:38:41.660 the plug

00:38:42.040 and still get his pension

00:38:43.020 as early as about

00:38:44.180 March of next year

00:38:45.360 but there are

00:38:46.620 I'm sorry

00:38:47.580 I've forgotten the number

00:38:48.520 I didn't know

00:38:49.560 we were going to talk

00:38:50.100 about this today

00:38:50.620 but I think there are

00:38:52.080 83 MPs

00:38:53.700 whose pensions

00:38:55.120 do not fully vest

00:38:56.320 until October

00:38:57.720 and you remember

00:38:58.360 the election by law

00:39:00.200 is supposed to be

00:39:00.840 October 28th

00:39:02.240 or 21st

00:39:03.060 but it was moved

00:39:04.040 to October the 28th

00:39:05.860 so that

00:39:06.680 these guys

00:39:07.800 would qualify

00:39:08.200 because if it goes

00:39:08.780 October 21st

00:39:09.740 they don't get

00:39:10.500 the best pension

00:39:11.220 wow

00:39:11.560 wow

00:39:11.960 those sneaky guys

00:39:13.480 yeah

00:39:14.100 so you know

00:39:15.220 do I think

00:39:16.440 we're going to go early

00:39:17.300 there's a good possibility

00:39:19.020 of that

00:39:19.280 but there's also

00:39:20.060 this possibility

00:39:20.720 that even some

00:39:21.480 of the Conservative MPs

00:39:22.640 will not be eager

00:39:23.580 to go early

00:39:24.480 because they're going

00:39:25.660 to want that

00:39:26.140 full MP's pension

00:39:27.180 right

00:39:27.860 although they're likely

00:39:28.840 to get re-elected

00:39:29.600 it's the guys

00:39:30.040 who aren't going

00:39:30.600 to get re-elected

00:39:31.460 right

00:39:31.780 who are most

00:39:32.920 at risk

00:39:33.540 right

00:39:33.940 right

00:39:34.320 right

00:39:34.660 here's the last question

00:39:35.900 the other day

00:39:36.320 I talked to

00:39:37.680 Maxime Bernier

00:39:38.560 again

00:39:39.000 and I've known

00:39:39.440 Maxime Bernier

00:39:40.100 for more than 20 years

00:39:41.160 I knew him before

00:39:41.960 he got

00:39:42.360 he was an MP

00:39:43.580 when he was

00:39:44.120 at the Montreal

00:39:45.020 Economic Institute

00:39:46.280 he was libertarian

00:39:47.300 I always liked him

00:39:48.760 I always had a soft spot

00:39:50.380 for him

00:39:50.820 I find him stylish

00:39:51.780 I like his freedom

00:39:53.160 orientation

00:39:53.700 I like that he's

00:39:54.280 politically incorrect

00:39:54.980 he's a very charming man

00:39:56.460 I think he is

00:39:57.420 and that counts for something

00:39:58.540 but he's had a lot

00:40:00.240 of losses in a row

00:40:01.220 not only did his PPC lose

00:40:02.820 but he personally

00:40:03.620 has run in by-elections

00:40:05.220 and I think he's lost

00:40:06.180 four times

00:40:06.980 now when I spoke

00:40:08.740 to him the other day

00:40:09.180 he pointed out

00:40:09.680 that Nigel Farage

00:40:10.680 ran for parliament

00:40:12.040 I think seven or eight times

00:40:13.640 before he won

00:40:14.480 that's true

00:40:16.320 but I said to him

00:40:18.560 I put it to him

00:40:19.060 I said look

00:40:19.540 when Aaron O'Toole

00:40:21.100 was the leader

00:40:21.840 of the conservatives

00:40:22.580 and when he was

00:40:23.520 too close

00:40:24.880 to the liberals

00:40:26.200 on policy issues

00:40:27.220 I mean

00:40:27.540 we were talking

00:40:28.960 about COVID

00:40:29.560 and lockdowns

00:40:31.040 but you could also

00:40:31.880 put the carbon tax

00:40:32.860 in there

00:40:33.120 and other things too

00:40:33.800 I said there was

00:40:34.540 a demand

00:40:35.040 for another point of view

00:40:35.920 and PPC

00:40:36.500 could absorb that

00:40:37.780 but Pierre Polyev

00:40:39.340 is tougher

00:40:40.200 on ideological issues

00:40:41.500 starting to talk

00:40:42.600 about immigration

00:40:43.300 I put it to

00:40:44.640 Maxime Bernier

00:40:45.380 that a lot

00:40:46.860 of the raison d'etre

00:40:47.700 of the PPC

00:40:48.440 is being reabsorbed

00:40:50.240 into the conservative party

00:40:52.000 I think it's true

00:40:52.800 what do you think

00:40:54.140 will happen

00:40:54.840 to the more libertarian

00:40:57.440 or more dissident

00:40:58.540 voters

00:41:00.100 who

00:41:01.560 first of all

00:41:02.240 I don't think

00:41:02.640 most of the PPC voters

00:41:03.820 were libertarians

00:41:04.580 I think that they were

00:41:05.780 dissidents

00:41:06.660 and conspiracy theorists

00:41:08.900 and hard-nosed

00:41:10.680 kind of people

00:41:11.520 who pulled their trailers

00:41:12.700 up to provincial boundaries

00:41:14.200 after the

00:41:15.760 after April 1

00:41:17.840 when the carbon tax

00:41:18.960 was increased

00:41:19.640 and have camped out there

00:41:21.400 for six months

00:41:22.160 protesting

00:41:23.840 and I think

00:41:25.620 that that

00:41:26.040 I think they got

00:41:26.880 two and a half percent

00:41:27.620 of the vote last time

00:41:28.740 I think they're going

00:41:29.960 to go down

00:41:30.300 to under one percent

00:41:31.440 of the vote

00:41:32.020 this time

00:41:32.480 I think it's

00:41:33.000 just his hardcore supporters

00:41:34.880 because I do think

00:41:36.860 there is an attraction

00:41:38.920 to winners

00:41:40.340 and so

00:41:41.740 if you have

00:41:42.980 right of center

00:41:44.820 views

00:41:45.520 and Aaron O'Toole

00:41:48.220 is your champion

00:41:48.880 and you're pretty sure

00:41:49.680 he's going to lose

00:41:50.320 well there's no harm

00:41:51.240 in voting for

00:41:52.280 Maxime Bernier

00:41:53.000 but if you

00:41:54.200 hate Trudeau

00:41:55.460 as we talked about

00:41:56.180 so many people do

00:41:57.060 and you see

00:41:58.360 Polyev as a winner

00:41:59.960 you don't want

00:42:01.640 to risk that

00:42:02.660 by voting for

00:42:04.380 Maxime Bernier

00:42:05.940 you will vote

00:42:07.280 for a Tory candidate

00:42:08.760 and

00:42:09.820 you know

00:42:10.580 and the other thing

00:42:11.400 is that we're

00:42:11.940 for instance

00:42:13.100 my MP

00:42:14.600 right now

00:42:16.240 is

00:42:16.900 Randy Boissone

00:42:18.360 the Liberal

00:42:20.660 Employment Minister

00:42:22.000 he only won

00:42:23.640 because

00:42:24.240 there was

00:42:24.980 a People's Party

00:42:25.940 candidate

00:42:26.440 who siphoned off

00:42:28.020 just enough votes

00:42:29.280 from James Cumming

00:42:30.540 who was the

00:42:31.060 Conservative MP

00:42:32.000 until 2021

00:42:33.620 that Cumming

00:42:35.560 couldn't win

00:42:36.240 he took off

00:42:36.880 if you take a look

00:42:37.960 at the numbers

00:42:38.400 the People's Party

00:42:39.940 candidate took

00:42:40.900 almost exactly

00:42:42.060 the number

00:42:42.580 that Cumming

00:42:43.900 needed to beat

00:42:44.760 Boissone

00:42:45.260 right

00:42:45.760 and

00:42:46.860 time after

00:42:48.020 time after

00:42:48.540 time

00:42:48.820 when I followed

00:42:49.520 Cumming's workers 0.99

00:42:51.820 around

00:42:52.540 to report on

00:42:53.840 on how the election

00:42:54.780 was going

00:42:55.280 people would say

00:42:56.200 I'm not voting

00:42:57.200 for you

00:42:57.500 because Jason

00:42:58.140 Kenny has all

00:42:58.880 of these rules

00:42:59.620 about the pandemic

00:43:00.440 well of course

00:43:01.260 Kenny had nothing

00:43:02.180 to do

00:43:02.720 with the federal

00:43:03.760 side of things

00:43:04.520 but without

00:43:05.320 Kenny there

00:43:06.560 without the

00:43:07.180 pandemic there

00:43:08.140 without

00:43:08.740 the biggest

00:43:09.840 single reason

00:43:10.500 I think

00:43:11.180 that Bernier

00:43:12.140 got votes

00:43:12.740 was because

00:43:13.320 he was

00:43:14.020 decidedly

00:43:14.820 against

00:43:15.220 all of the

00:43:15.780 pandemic

00:43:16.300 restrictions

00:43:17.340 without all

00:43:18.540 of that

00:43:18.880 and with

00:43:19.220 the chance

00:43:19.840 that the

00:43:20.260 Conservatives

00:43:20.780 are going

00:43:21.140 to win

00:43:21.600 Maxine's

00:43:23.120 not going

00:43:23.360 to do

00:43:23.480 very well

00:43:23.840 how about

00:43:24.600 the Green

00:43:24.920 Party

00:43:25.280 I mean

00:43:25.540 they always

00:43:26.180 bump around

00:43:27.520 they get

00:43:27.780 a few

00:43:28.120 MPs

00:43:28.700 I think

00:43:28.960 it's sort

00:43:29.300 of a

00:43:29.460 make work

00:43:29.780 project

00:43:30.160 for Elizabeth

00:43:30.700 May

00:43:31.100 when they

00:43:33.960 get strong

00:43:34.620 sometimes

00:43:35.060 it siphons

00:43:35.600 votes

00:43:35.960 away from

00:43:36.960 the Liberals

00:43:37.720 they also

00:43:38.580 act as an

00:43:39.340 attack dog

00:43:40.020 in debates

00:43:40.800 against

00:43:41.360 Conservatives

00:43:41.960 what do

00:43:43.040 you think

00:43:43.340 this next

00:43:43.760 election

00:43:44.080 do you

00:43:44.260 think

00:43:44.360 there's

00:43:44.520 even room

00:43:45.080 for the

00:43:45.780 Green Party

00:43:46.300 or do you

00:43:46.620 think

00:43:46.860 it's so

00:43:48.000 important

00:43:48.380 that a

00:43:48.660 Green voter

00:43:49.120 would vote

00:43:49.560 Liberal or

00:43:50.020 NDP

00:43:50.300 instead

00:43:50.820 no

00:43:51.980 and I

00:43:52.540 think

00:43:52.740 now

00:43:53.640 so the

00:43:54.860 winner

00:43:55.180 theory I

00:43:56.320 have that

00:43:56.820 hurts

00:43:57.340 Bernier

00:43:57.860 the loser

00:43:59.320 theory

00:43:59.940 helps

00:44:02.300 the Greens

00:44:03.880 if you're

00:44:04.200 going to lose

00:44:04.500 anyway

00:44:04.840 there's no

00:44:05.620 point voting

00:44:06.640 for the

00:44:07.240 Liberals

00:44:07.740 you might as

00:44:08.780 well vote

00:44:09.100 Green

00:44:09.380 if that's

00:44:09.780 where your

00:44:10.080 heart

00:44:10.400 is

00:44:11.940 they might

00:44:14.060 win two

00:44:14.600 seats

00:44:14.940 they might

00:44:15.440 win three

00:44:15.960 I doubt

00:44:17.140 they'd win

00:44:17.620 three but 0.83

00:44:18.460 they might

00:44:19.260 win two

00:44:19.740 they won

00:44:20.220 two before

00:44:20.920 but

00:44:21.600 they're

00:44:23.280 a non-entity

00:44:24.460 political

00:44:25.060 well the media

00:44:26.140 sure loves them

00:44:26.800 if nothing else

00:44:27.500 oh yeah

00:44:28.000 for sure

00:44:28.560 well listen

00:44:29.440 Lauren it's great

00:44:29.880 to catch up

00:44:30.380 with you

00:44:30.560 thanks for

00:44:31.000 spending so

00:44:31.480 much time

00:44:31.800 with us

00:44:32.040 I was excited

00:44:32.620 for a moment

00:44:33.000 I thought

00:44:33.300 we're going

00:44:33.640 to an election

00:44:34.140 but you read

00:44:35.040 the fine print

00:44:35.660 I don't think

00:44:36.160 there's going

00:44:36.440 to be an election

00:44:36.900 anytime soon

00:44:38.040 well Lauren

00:44:38.380 Gunter great

00:44:38.800 to see you

00:44:39.220 and we'll

00:44:39.380 keep reading

00:44:39.740 in the Edmonton

00:44:40.320 Sun

00:44:40.580 thank you

00:44:41.760 very much

00:44:42.180 all right

00:44:42.960 there you have

00:44:43.560 it

00:44:43.740 well that's

00:44:44.320 our show

00:44:44.580 for today

00:44:45.040 until tomorrow

00:44:46.180 on behalf of

00:44:46.820 all of us

00:44:47.260 here at Rebel

00:44:47.840 World Headquarters

00:44:48.660 to you at home

00:44:49.280 good night

00:44:50.160 and keep fighting

00:44:51.220 for freedom

00:44:51.820 I'll see you

Rebel News Podcast - September 05, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Stuntman Singh doesn't call election after ripping up confidence agreement

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