Rebel News Podcast - April 03, 2025


EZRA LEVANT | Tamara Lich and Chris Barber convicted of mischief


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

168.0957

Word Count

6,450

Sentence Count

441

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Tamara Leach and Chris Barber were acquitted on most of the charges against them, including intimidation and obstructing police, but they were convicted on mischief in the case of Barber, who violated a court order that applied only to him.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Tamara Leach's years-long trial finally comes to an end, and I'm here to report it to
00:00:21.920 you. It's April 3rd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:24.860 Shame on you, you censorious bug.
00:00:39.740 Well, court is done for the day. Let me check the time. It's just about 4 p.m. We started
00:00:44.740 just after 10 a.m. The judge basically read through the meat of a 105-page ruling. There
00:00:51.560 were a number of counts, a number of charges against both Tamara Leach and Chris Barber.
00:00:56.880 They were acquitted on most of them, including intimidation, obstructing police, but they were
00:01:01.840 convicted on mischief, and in the case of Chris Barber, he violated a particular court order that
00:01:06.860 applied only to him. So I suppose from one point of view, as one fellow in the gallery said to me,
00:01:13.020 he said, that's a great outcome. Most of the cases were acquitted. I don't feel it's a great outcome
00:01:18.820 at all. It's like being shot at with six bullets and only one hitting you. That's a disaster.
00:01:24.120 I think this is a disaster for civil liberties. And some of the language used by Chris Barber,
00:01:30.620 Tamara Leach's co-accused on TikTok, the language was harsh, and I could imagine that it would hurt
00:01:36.000 a judge's ears to hear things like, we're shutting down this city, we wrecked this city, like very
00:01:41.740 boastful language about doing nuisance, committing a nuisance to the city. It would be hard to look
00:01:48.600 at that without getting a feeling that Chris Barber was meaning to commit mischief, as opposed to just
00:01:54.660 a peaceful protest. But what did Tamara Leach ever say? Literally, hold the line was the worst thing
00:02:00.940 that the prosecution could come up with. And the judge, bizarrely, said that hold the line can be
00:02:06.060 wonderful, like when police say it. And she quoted on several occasions where police said, hold the
00:02:11.680 line. And that was considered fun and playful and positive. But when Tamara Leach said, hold the line,
00:02:17.440 well, that's proof of her mental intentions to commit a crime. I found that unpersuasive and appalling.
00:02:23.600 And I really feel like there's two tiers of justice in Canada right now. If you are a Hamas supporter,
00:02:30.100 if you are even a foreign national in Canada supporting Hamas, you can walk down the streets
00:02:35.600 and chant Intifada Revolution, which means the violent pogrom against Jews. You can chant
00:02:40.520 from the river to the sea. You can do all that with complete impunity. And more than that,
00:02:45.780 you can block the streets. If you've looked at the pro-Hamas protests in places like Ottawa,
00:02:52.300 Toronto, and Montreal, they always block the streets. And sometimes they have a prayer in the
00:02:58.040 middle of the streets. Of course, there's 100 mosques in Toronto and Montreal. The prayer in the
00:03:02.400 streets is not a religious act. It's a political act of domination, of blocking the streets. And
00:03:08.000 that is never prosecuted. Have you once ever seen police even ticket people if they're pro-Hamas
00:03:14.480 extremists taking over the streets? And yet that is exactly what Tamara Leach and Chris Barber were
00:03:19.620 found guilty of. Like I say, two-tiered justice. And the problem with two-tiered justice is it erodes
00:03:26.280 public support for the system. And we have this grand compact, this grand agreement in Canada
00:03:32.420 that we all submit to the rules of the game, and we accept the outcomes because the rules are fair
00:03:37.880 enough, and we trust the people who implement them enough. But, you know, I was in the courts in
00:03:44.200 Lethbridge, Alberta. I was in the courts in Lethbridge when I saw the Coutts 3 convicted,
00:03:50.340 and the Coutts 4 were convicted, and Arthur Pavlovsky was convicted for giving a sermon
00:03:56.340 in support of the truckers. And again and again and again, our side of the equation is criminalized
00:04:04.340 and sentenced in some cases to long jail sentences, lengthy trials. But the other side isn't. They get a
00:04:12.820 police escort. If Tamara Leach, the gentlest grandma you'll ever meet, who the judge read some of her
00:04:21.480 comments full of love and spirituality, if that is a crime, then it's like Lavrenti Beria of the NKVD
00:04:29.580 said, show me the man and I'll find you a crime. If you can hang a crime around Tamara Leach's neck,
00:04:35.660 you can hang that crime around anybody. And I am demoralized by it. But you know what? I'm built
00:04:40.560 for fighting. It's called rebel news. It's not called establishment news. We get back up. And I
00:04:45.220 think I told you, I spoke to Tamara yesterday and today over lunch. I briefly spoke to the lawyer,
00:04:51.280 Lawrence Greenspan, and we agreed that we would crowdfund the costs of her appeal. We're not going
00:04:57.260 to let her face this by herself. It's an enormous uphill battle. I counted nine lawyers in the room.
00:05:02.640 That's an enormous battle force. And of course, the government spent $10 million between the policing
00:05:09.480 and the prosecution. The least we can do is help Tamara Leach. And I promised her that we would
00:05:14.740 crowdfund for her. And she accepted the help. And so did Lawrence Greenspan. So that's the thing.
00:05:21.320 You know what they say? Don't get mad. Get even. Get ahead. And what I want to do is help her get
00:05:25.640 ahead. I want to help cover the cost of her appeal. Remember, this was a serious judge who took the case
00:05:31.780 seriously. I won't deny it. But it is the lowest courts. And you can appeal this ruling to a higher
00:05:37.360 court. And that, too, can even be sought to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. So it's a loss.
00:05:43.740 Absolutely it's a loss. But the game is not over. Well, I'm about to go back to Toronto now.
00:05:49.880 It'll be interesting to me if any of the political candidates remark on this. I don't think they will.
00:05:55.200 But I think this is a very important case. This can be seen in part by the fact that there's so many
00:05:59.320 mainstream media here, as well as actually so many independent citizen journalists, too.
00:06:03.580 And that's my report from Ottawa. Keep watching Rebel News and keep fighting for freedom every day.
00:06:22.500 Summation of the day, Mark.
00:06:24.420 Better afternoon than morning, that's for sure.
00:06:27.400 Yes.
00:06:28.620 There's a meatloaf who said two out of three.
00:06:30.340 Five out of six ain't bad. I can't comment on the mischief charge or any of the aspects of the
00:06:39.240 judge's decision while the matter is still pending for sentence. And that's about all I can tell you
00:06:45.340 at this point.
00:06:46.020 Are you expecting a similar sentence to packing?
00:06:48.520 I won't comment on that. No.
00:06:52.300 Fantastic, sir. Awesomely done. It was a master class.
00:06:56.420 Thank you.
00:06:57.040 Well, I mean, it's bittersweet. We were hoping for full acquittal. She was, of course, convicted.
00:07:05.460 Tamara Leach was convicted for mischief and counselling mischief. But the counselling mischief
00:07:09.720 was stayed at the behest of the Crown. So really, it's one for six when you take into account the fact
00:07:15.840 that she was not guilty for intimidation, counselling intimidation, obstructing police, and counselling
00:07:22.040 obstructions. So technically, it's about one for six, which some would say it's a pretty good result.
00:07:27.800 Obviously, we were hopeful for no convictions at all. Because she read her judgment, it's often difficult to
00:07:35.560 process or digest everything because it was about five hours of her reading and going through the dense case law.
00:07:43.000 She mentioned some court of appeal cases, some recent freedom protest convictions.
00:07:50.680 And so obviously, she's bound by precedent there. So we're going to have to go through
00:07:55.640 and look to see how that lines up with Tamara's case.
00:07:59.720 She did say that a couple of recent cases expanded the notion of a mischief to include not just people
00:08:10.280 who actively, physically block the road, but those who are around the event and are integrated with it
00:08:18.520 sufficiently. So that's how it seems that Ms. Leach was drawn into the conviction. But we're going to have
00:08:26.040 to review that and see whether or not, you know, the client wants to appeal and, you know, what her lawyers wants to do.
00:08:35.400 They mentioned that the
00:08:39.160 when Tamara said
00:08:41.800 hold the line, it's had a big impact on the decision. Tell me, can you tell me more about this?
00:08:48.760 Sure. So that was a phrase that you heard throughout the Freedom Convoy and it was actually used by the police.
00:08:55.400 And Justice Perkins has made a point of saying that that's ambiguous, just as a plain phrase.
00:09:03.320 So you have to look at when it's said and in what context it's said.
00:09:08.840 And so for the mischief charge, she looked at that,
00:09:12.760 those words and said that contributed to the element of the offence, the mischief and the counselling
00:09:18.040 mischief. But when it came to intimidation, that phrase and obstructing police, that phrase was,
00:09:25.320 didn't have a single meaning such that she could attribute it to the element of the offence.
00:09:31.720 So it was ambiguous in that context, whereas in the context of the mischief, it wasn't ambiguous.
00:09:37.320 It allowed her to draw a conclusion that they were counselling
00:09:40.600 people to interfere with or obstruct the road.
00:09:43.400 So that was a key phrase. And she did mention it several times. And both the defence and the Crown
00:09:50.120 had pointed to that to support their own case or the defence.
00:09:53.320 As Rob mentioned, we are ready to go to court of appeal. What do you think about this can be better?
00:10:07.880 Well, if you're asking me to speculate as to what the client's going to do and what the court might do,
00:10:15.000 I'm not going to do that. But I can tell you that both the defence counsel and the Crown will look at
00:10:21.560 that as they always do and determine whether or not they're going to appeal. They have to say
00:10:26.120 what their likelihood of success is, whether or not they feel that Justice Perkins may have got the
00:10:31.160 law correct, you know, what their chances are on success. And of course, it's going to eat up more
00:10:36.360 judicial resources either way. So yeah, we can only wait. They have 30 days. The Crown has 30 days to
00:10:42.440 make their decision. So we'll see. I'm disappointed, obviously. It's a lot to digest. It's not the outcome
00:10:49.720 we were hoping for. But I think the disturbing part about this more than anything else is the fact that
00:10:57.560 the standards that the general public are held to are exceptionally high. And the politicians down the
00:11:04.680 street, the standards for them are exceptionally low. I mean, how many scandals does the Liberals have
00:11:10.760 to be involved in? And not one of them have ever been accountable for the fact that thousands and
00:11:15.880 thousands of Canadians felt the need to leave their homes, to travel across Canada, to come here to push
00:11:21.400 back the actions of the government. And none of them have been held accountable. But Chris and Tamara, oh, the
00:11:26.600 standard is just so high for them, right? So this is what really is disturbing and frustrating about the
00:11:33.720 whole thing. But I'm not a lawyer. But you'd have to talk to a legal expert like Eva to understand that
00:11:40.200 more than I do. What do you feel about today? Well, I'm just going to echo what Tom had to say. And I
00:11:45.880 don't think that this should be something a lawyer has to say. But on behalf of Canadians, I think our
00:11:51.480 government needs to be held to account and not Canadians. Thank you.
00:12:02.040 Hey, it's April the first, otherwise known as April Fool's Day. And bizarrely, Canada's government
00:12:07.000 chooses this day every year, not only to raise our taxes, but to raise their own parliamentary
00:12:13.080 paycheck. It's, it's like they're making a fool of us. It's like they know what they're doing
00:12:19.320 is a joke, but they're doing it anyways. I find that the date astonishing. And I refuse to believe
00:12:24.040 it's a coincidence. But it's a happy coincidence that our friend, Franco Terrazzano, the Canadian
00:12:28.760 Taxpayers Federation, is making today the day he tells us about the details of his new book,
00:12:34.680 a book called Axing the Tax, the rise and fall of Canada's carbon tax. And Franco joins us now.
00:12:41.960 Franco, great to see you again. Congratulations on the new book.
00:12:44.680 Hey, thank you so much, Ezra. I really appreciate that.
00:12:47.800 April Fool's Day. Like it, it really is crazy that that's the one day a year that they choose
00:12:54.280 to raise so many of their taxes, including alcohol taxes, MP pay, senators pay is, I don't know,
00:13:02.760 I just can't get over the coincidence. Maybe it's just me, but it, it feels like an insult added to
00:13:08.520 injury. Tell me though about your book, because you guys are really the number one watchdogs in Canada
00:13:13.960 against tax hikes. Take it away. Tell me about your new book. You can get it on Amazon. Make the case
00:13:21.240 to our Rebel News viewers for why they should pick up a copy of Axing the Tax. Well, you know,
00:13:27.720 Prime Minister Mark Carney wrote a book hundreds of pages long praising the carbon tax. Here is the book
00:13:35.160 showing you why the carbon tax always was and always will be a scam for the ordinary Canadians who are
00:13:42.680 forced to pay the bill. And Ezra, as you know, as your listeners know, yes, Canadians force the
00:13:49.640 Liberal government to back down on their own consumer carbon tax. But look, folks, the fight
00:13:54.920 against carbon taxes is not over yet. And that's one of the main reasons why I wrote this book,
00:14:00.600 right? Because you can already see the carbon tax activists trying to spin this like, oh, well,
00:14:06.840 the carbon tax was a good idea. Trudeau just bungled the policy or he messed up the communications.
00:14:13.160 But you know, that couldn't be further from the truth. The carbon tax is always going to make your
00:14:18.360 life more expensive. And it won't work to reduce emissions, especially in a place like Canada,
00:14:23.880 where we are 1.4% of global emissions. So I wrote this book for two reasons. Number one,
00:14:30.120 to show you where the carbon taxers are going to fight in the future, they're going to relabel,
00:14:35.400 repackage and try to force hidden carbon taxes onto Canadians. But number two, Ezra,
00:14:41.560 I also wrote this book because this was really a David versus Goliath fight, right? For years,
00:14:47.480 you had the politicians, the bureaucrats, the taxpayer funded academics, the media talking heads,
00:14:53.320 even big businesses telling Canadians to sit down, be quiet and pay your carbon tax bill. But ordinary
00:14:59.960 Canadians fought back. They went to rallies, they signed petitions, they emailed politicians,
00:15:05.480 and they deserve to know that all their hard work paid off and that, you know what, if we keep
00:15:10.680 fighting, we are going to end all carbon taxes in Canada. Now, I want to point out that when Mark
00:15:17.960 Carney signed his fake executive order, like he sort of copied that Trump style of signing a document
00:15:24.440 in a lovely leather bound booklet. If you read what he actually signed, he said that he was rescinding
00:15:35.320 the consumer side carbon tax, not because he disagreed with it, not because it was wrong,
00:15:40.520 not because it was counterproductive. He, he simply said it was divisive, divisive, that it would,
00:15:45.720 that it divided us against each other, which is obviously true. Now, I think the division is like
00:15:50.120 80-20 people who are against it. But the reason I mentioned that, Franco, is that he's not
00:15:56.440 disavowing it. He's not saying this is a bad idea. He's just saying, I've got to get through an election.
00:16:02.760 An election, I need to, I need to get as many stones under my shoes as I can before I start this race.
00:16:11.160 Pierre Pauli has been working on the carbon tax for years. Let me take his issue away from him.
00:16:15.240 And I'm not going to say I'm against it. I'm just going to say for now, it's divisive. So I think
00:16:19.320 even the way he signed that fake order should chill us to the bone, because the moment he's not
00:16:26.280 worried about division anymore, I think he's going to spring it back in. And that's the thing,
00:16:30.440 he didn't repeal the underlying legislation. Parliament has not reconvened. He's just,
00:16:35.320 I don't even know if he has the power to do it. He's just said, I'm not going to collect it for a while.
00:16:38.680 Well, Ezra, you're very right to pick up on that and to keep an eye on it, right? So like, first of
00:16:44.440 all, up until what, six minutes ago, the liberal government was bragging about the carbon tax,
00:16:50.920 right? They're telling you, if you care about the environment, you got to pay the carbon tax.
00:16:54.360 The carbon tax will make you richer somehow. So all but six minutes ago, those same politicians
00:17:00.280 were praising the carbon tax. And Ezra, you are very right in your analysis, right? So what
00:17:06.920 Carney did is he set the consumer carbon tax rates to zero. But the legislation is still on the books,
00:17:15.400 which means that after the election, technically, politicians could come back to the House of
00:17:20.200 Commons and crank up that carbon tax again. And remember, folks, Carney, he's not scrapping carbon
00:17:28.760 taxes. He made it very clear during his liberal leadership campaign that he wants to change the
00:17:34.920 carbon tax, right? Relabel, repackage, hide the carbon tax. So what Carney wants to do is he wants
00:17:42.280 to hammer Canadian businesses with huge hidden carbon taxes. And he hopes you won't notice when
00:17:49.160 they pass those costs on to you through higher prices. And again, in this book, Axing the Tax,
00:17:55.560 the rise and fall of Canada's carbon tax, why I think your readers will like it so much,
00:18:00.120 it's not just about the history of the carbon tax or the politics of the carbon tax, but it shows your
00:18:06.600 viewers what they need to look out for as politicians try to relabel and hide carbon taxes, as academics
00:18:13.800 try to do the same thing, but also as international organizations try to force carbon taxes on the
00:18:20.760 global citizenry. Okay, all of that is in this book. You know, I'm so glad you mentioned international
00:18:26.760 organizations, because Mark Carney is the NGO VIP. He was on the board of the World Economic Forum.
00:18:36.280 He has not one, not two, but three passports. He calls himself European at a recent World Economic
00:18:43.000 Forum panel. Last year, he told the US Congress he lives in the UK. And I think he's being honest. I think
00:18:49.320 he thinks of himself as a man bigger than any one country, but not just that he's big,
00:18:54.360 that like Gulliver in Lilliput, you know, voters are those little pesky creatures trying to tie him
00:19:00.840 down. And he's bigger than that. So it's not just that he thinks of himself as bigger than Canada.
00:19:06.280 It's that he doesn't believe in the, you know, the little people, the peasants, being able to steer,
00:19:13.320 like he would rather listen to policy wonks at the World Economic Forum in Davos,
00:19:17.720 than to listen to what Joe Average has to say on the factory floor in any given town in Canada.
00:19:23.160 I think there's, I'm not going to call it snobbery, but it's sort of a vision of the elite
00:19:27.960 governing sort of like a council of high priests versus the populist conservative referendum style
00:19:34.840 of government that is popular, let's say in Alberta. Well, you know, I'm a couple of things.
00:19:41.160 Let me touch on. Okay. Because, you know, there's other media organizations, these big,
00:19:45.720 important people in the media who actually let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. Okay.
00:19:51.160 And we reference this right in the book where they say, well, maybe it is time to go to a hidden
00:19:56.440 carbon tax because then at least the rubes won't be all up and frustrated about the carbon tax that
00:20:03.000 they can see directly on their home heating bill, right? So look, they aren't for ending carbon
00:20:09.240 taxes. They just don't want you to know that you're paying carbon taxes, right folks. And it's,
00:20:15.480 and it's not just politicians or media in Canada. It's also the international media lead. You have
00:20:21.640 organizations like the WEF, the United Nations, the IMF pushing for these types of global carbon taxes.
00:20:29.400 And I think there's a lot of ammunition in this book to help you do two things. Number one,
00:20:34.280 fight back against any claim that the problem with the carbon tax was Trudeau. That is false. The
00:20:39.880 problem with the carbon tax is the carbon tax. It makes the necessities of life more expensive,
00:20:45.240 and it doesn't do anything to reduce global emissions. It just makes Canadians' lives more
00:20:50.920 expensive. But number two, it allows you to see where the next fight is going to be and how to be
00:20:57.000 prepared for it. We're talking about Axing the Tax, the new books by Franco Teresano of the Canadian
00:21:04.120 Taxpayers Federation. Now, you mentioned reducing emissions. And earlier, I think you said
00:21:11.080 combating climate change, or you might have said something to that effect. And that's really the big
00:21:16.760 rationale for the carbon tax, is it's designed to modify your behavior to get you to use less energy and
00:21:25.880 reduce carbon emissions. So turn down your thermostat in the winter, drive less, have a smaller house,
00:21:32.040 a lower carbon footprint. They're even trying to get cows to fart less because there's methane in there.
00:21:37.880 But that's all based on the theory that if we reduce man-made carbon emissions, that's going to change
00:21:45.400 the temperature of the world. Like, that's why they're doing it. So when they say, get your emissions
00:21:50.840 down, that's not actually the goal. That's the secondary thing. The primary goal is reduce the
00:21:57.560 world's temperature. But none of these taxes do that. In fact, if you listen to the United Nations,
00:22:04.840 if every single human in the world stopped emitting all carbon, if we just shut down and went back to a
00:22:10.520 stone age economy, even that would not cause the earth to cool. Because for more than 10,000 years,
00:22:16.920 the earth has slowly been emerging from the last ice age. And that's why I think the left uses words like
00:22:24.520 combating climate change, or climate action. They don't talk about an actual result. They just want
00:22:30.600 to see the busy work that justifies their tax. What do you make of that? Like, that's a
00:22:35.320 first principles of tax, saying, what are we even doing this for? You're saying we're doing this to
00:22:41.320 cool the earth, but it will not even do that if even we all did it. Well, Ezra, there's actually
00:22:48.600 another reason. And look, if these big-brained economists were honest with you, they would agree,
00:22:53.720 they would agree, or at least have to acknowledge this basic principle, and it's called inelastic demand.
00:22:59.800 Okay? Essentially, what that means is that you can't tax away people's necessities. Okay?
00:23:06.280 So when you tax their ability to get to work, when you tax their ability to heat their homes,
00:23:11.640 when you're taxed their ability to afford groceries, you're not reducing emissions,
00:23:16.680 you're reducing the amount of money that people have in their budgets. Okay? And look, look,
00:23:22.040 even if you just take them at their claims, right? The BC government, they brought in the first
00:23:28.600 economy-wide carbon tax all the way back in 2008. They said, look, we're going to reduce emissions
00:23:34.520 big time. In fact, they brought in legislation that the carbon tax would reduce emissions by a
00:23:41.560 third by 2020. Yet the BC government's own data shows that emissions have gone up. So even if you
00:23:49.000 take them at their words, it's very clear that the carbon tax makes people's lives more expensive,
00:23:54.840 and it doesn't work. But Ezra, let me just flip to one other element here, because we all know of
00:23:59.640 the consumer carbon tax. Now the issues around this hidden carbon tax on businesses, the industrial
00:24:05.480 carbon tax is coming to light. But you know, there's many of these environmental policies and
00:24:10.680 regulations that also use carbon taxes. Okay? The oil and gas cap, right? The production cap on the oil
00:24:17.880 and gas sector that uses the tool of a carbon tax. You've probably heard of the clean fuel regulations,
00:24:25.320 the so-called clean fuel regulations, Trudeau's term, that uses the carbon tax as its main tool.
00:24:32.200 So not only is it important to push back against the consumer carbon tax, the one we all know about,
00:24:37.560 but there's many of these different hidden carbon taxes and all these different environment or energy
00:24:43.400 regulations that governments are forcing on the people. You know, I was thinking about the United
00:24:49.480 Kingdom because I saw a crazy headline. Did you know that there's only one last steel mill in the
00:24:56.600 United Kingdom? It's owned by British Steel, but British Steel isn't even British anymore. It's owned
00:25:00.840 by a Chinese company. It's the last blast furnace in the UK that can create what they call virgin steel.
00:25:08.360 There's a few others that sort of melt down scrap and reform things, but it's the last, because to
00:25:15.480 make steel from scratch, you need a heat so hot only a coal-fired steel mill will work. You can't do it
00:25:23.080 through electricity. And now because of their obsession with what they call net zero over there,
00:25:30.280 the last steel mill in the UK may be shut down. Not that it's inefficient, not that it would fail on its
00:25:37.400 own, but because they just can't make a steel mill without coal. And it's sort of crazy to me,
00:25:45.080 Franco, that the birthplace of the industrial revolution is also the grave site of the industrial
00:25:50.120 revolution. Are you worried that this carbon tax could do the same to our steel industry and the
00:25:56.760 aluminum industry needs an enormous amount of energy? Also, are you worried about the last of the
00:26:04.200 hearty manufacturing in this country, moving probably to the United States where they have
00:26:08.760 cheaper power? Well, of course, I'm worried about the carbon taxes driving away jobs in
00:26:14.120 manufacturing in Canada. And I'm glad you brought this up because this really shows why Carney's
00:26:19.240 hidden carbon tax on business is the worst of all worlds, right? It'll mean higher prices for you
00:26:25.400 as refineries, utilities, fertilizer plants pass on costs to consumers at the end of the day.
00:26:31.240 But what it also means is this carbon tax on Canadian business will push businesses to cut
00:26:37.960 production in Canada and set up shops south of the border. Why is that? Well, number one,
00:26:44.840 it doesn't matter who occupies the White House, whether it's a Democrat administration or Republican
00:26:50.280 one, they're not imposing national carbon taxes in the United States. So like we've heard Trump say many
00:26:56.200 times, right? Let's get manufacturing into the United States, more American jobs, more investment
00:27:01.640 in the US. Well, guess what? Carney's carbon tax on Canadian businesses are going to help Trump do just
00:27:08.520 that, right? It punishes Canadian businesses. And of course, it'll lead to fewer production in Canada,
00:27:14.360 more production in the United States. And that means less job opportunities for Canadians right here at home.
00:27:20.040 The man is Franco Teresano. The book is called Axing the Tax, The Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon Tax.
00:27:28.040 I wish you good luck. I am very worried as it stands right now. I mean, I feel like the carbon tax net zero
00:27:36.840 man himself might win. I'm talking about Mark Carney. I mean, he literally was the co-chair of a global net zero
00:27:43.720 alliance. I think your book is more urgent than ever. And I'd like to encourage our viewers to find it
00:27:48.680 at amazon.ca. Anywhere else they can get it? Can they get it at the Taxpayers Federation website too?
00:27:55.000 No, the best place to pick up this book, folks, Axing the Tax, The Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon Tax
00:28:00.600 is at amazon.ca. You can order it, buy it right now. Well, we absolutely must. Franco, great to
00:28:07.240 spend some time with you. Thanks very much. Hey, I really appreciate this, Ezra. Thank you.
00:28:11.240 All right. There he is, the man who is fighting with his team. And what I like about them is they don't
00:28:16.120 take any money from the government. That's the only reason you can trust them. Because anyone else
00:28:21.080 who takes government money, well, they're just, you know, if you pay Peter, if Peter pays Paul,
00:28:27.320 you know how the saying goes.
00:28:35.400 Ezra Levant reporting for Rebel News. I'm standing outside the Ottawa courthouse.
00:28:39.160 I'm surprised. For months, I had thought that Tamara Leach would be acquitted. She, of course,
00:28:45.800 was the spiritual leader of the trucker convoy in January and February of 2022 that so gripped the
00:28:53.240 nation. Gripped the nation because how unique it was. A peaceful protest by ordinary working class
00:28:59.880 Canadians wasn't supported by any political party or any lobby group. It wasn't funded by anyone. In fact,
00:29:05.800 its crowdfunding was shut down twice. It was ordinary Canadians who said enough of the pandemic
00:29:11.880 lockdowns, enough of the bullying people who didn't want to be jabbed, enough of the no-fly list,
00:29:16.520 enough of the curfew, enough. And it caught not only the attention of Canadians, but around the world.
00:29:22.920 For one beautiful moment, the entire world looked at Canada and thought they are an inspiration for
00:29:28.200 freedom. And I can tell you, in my travels around the world, everyone refers to the trucker convoy
00:29:33.720 to this day. And one of the reasons it was so peaceful is because of Tamara Leach. She's not a
00:29:40.040 trucker herself, but she joined the truckers and she was in charge of logistics and she helped with
00:29:45.160 crowdfunding. But mainly she would make these beautiful statements in writing, in video, telling
00:29:51.960 people to keep their hopes up and their spirits up and insisting that they stay peaceful. And you know
00:29:56.760 what? They did. She was part of the Freedom Convoy Corporation. They actually incorporated a company,
00:30:03.560 I'm not sure why, but they dealt directly with the police and the city of Ottawa on a daily basis.
00:30:09.640 And what I mean by that is they would help move trucks around, move them out of residential areas
00:30:14.760 and into business areas where they wouldn't upset people who were living. There are a lot of people who
00:30:20.280 live in apartments in downtown Ottawa, typically bureaucrats who work in the civil service. They
00:30:26.680 worked with police in the city to move the trucks to Wellington Street, which is the big road next to
00:30:31.720 Parliament, where no one lives. And frankly, no one worked. Of course, civil servants in Ottawa still
00:30:36.680 haven't gone back to work. There's a lot of work from home, even though it's 2025. But my point is that
00:30:42.120 they had a daily collaboration with the police, not daily, hourly. And they, in fact, when truckers came
00:30:49.640 into Ottawa, they were given directions by the Ottawa police of where to go, what streets to go to and
00:30:55.480 which streets not. There was a honking issue, but there was a civil injunction issued by another judge and
00:31:02.280 it was obeyed immediately. It was not an illegal movement. From time to time, you hear critics saying
00:31:09.400 the illegal trucker convoy, it was never deemed illegal in any legal manner, other than by,
00:31:16.120 I don't know, politicians. It wasn't a riot. The Emergencies Act did not ban peaceful protests.
00:31:24.040 And the Emergencies Act itself, the invocation of it was deemed to be illegal and unconstitutional
00:31:29.960 by the federal court. So supporting people whose really only offense was parking infractions,
00:31:36.200 keeping it that peaceful was an astonishing achievement. And I saw the nearly 50-day trial.
00:31:46.040 I'm not going to call it a sham trial, but I suppose it was because Tamara Leach never took the stand.
00:31:52.440 You might recall that in criminal law, the burden is with the prosecution. They have to prove you're
00:31:57.080 guilty. You don't have to prove you're innocent. So Tamara Leach didn't take the stand because she was
00:32:01.880 confident that the government couldn't prove she didn't, she did anything. And indeed she didn't.
00:32:07.160 She didn't drive a truck. She didn't block anything with the truck. She didn't encourage violence.
00:32:11.560 The opposite. She encouraged peace. And her co-defendant helped organize the truckers to be more in,
00:32:19.160 to conform with what the police wanted. I'm just astonished that she was already jailed for 49 days.
00:32:26.680 And then the trial itself had almost 50 days worth of hearings. This whole thing's been going on for
00:32:32.520 three years. And I thought, surely the judge will see that this is not in the public interest,
00:32:37.320 that this is an abuse of the law, that this is turning the process into the punishment, that allowing
00:32:44.120 this endless series of witnesses who had no direct contact with Tamara Leach. What was astonishing to me
00:32:50.440 as I listened to the hearing in the days I attended was that the people the Crown called had never met
00:32:57.480 Tamara Leach, never seen her, never talked to her, never emailed back and forth with her. How are you
00:33:02.040 a witness in her trial if you never even met her before? Like, aren't witnesses supposed to give
00:33:08.360 evidence about what they saw or heard? Instead, it was witnesses giving evidence about how they felt.
00:33:13.400 There was this one civic official. I think his name was Mr. Ayotte. I watched him testify. He just would
00:33:20.280 talk about how he went for a walk and he would hear horn honking or see trucks. He didn't take notes.
00:33:25.640 He didn't take videos. He just sort of had a dear diary. Today I saw a big bad truck. And I listened
00:33:31.720 to almost a day of his testimony and I was astonished that this was even allowed. I thought to myself,
00:33:36.760 and I said, that the judge is only allowing this mockery of a trial so that the Crown doesn't have
00:33:44.760 grounds to appeal. The judge is deferring to the prosecution in every aspect so they can't later
00:33:52.200 complain that it was an unfair trial. But the joke's on me. The judge was with the prosecution.
00:33:59.240 Now, there's still about 30 pages left for the judge to read in her ruling today.
00:34:05.000 But we know that she's been convicted on the first count. She'll surely be convicted on others.
00:34:09.400 And it really doesn't matter. Convicted on any of them is a scandal. Last night I talked to Tamara Leach
00:34:14.840 about the possibility that she would be convicted. And she agreed to accept the help from the
00:34:20.200 Democracy Fund to help crowdfund her legal defense. As you may know, our partners at the Democracy Fund
00:34:26.360 who have been defending Tamara Leach at great expense. It's an enormous trial. There's Edward Greenspan,
00:34:35.160 the top lawyer in Ottawa, and two deputy lawyers. So there was three lawyers the Democracy Fund was
00:34:41.400 paying for. And by the way, there were nine lawyers in the court. It's been an astonishing waste of
00:34:46.120 resources. But look what the government can say. They can say Tamara Leach is a criminal. I know in my
00:34:51.080 bones that's not true. And I found the explanations of the judge astonishing, frankly. I just can't get over
00:34:58.920 that one thing the judge said. Because Tamara Leach was helping de-escalate the situation. That's what
00:35:05.400 the judge said. Because Tamara Leach was helping to put in a better plan for truckers that didn't
00:35:11.560 interfere so much with people. Because she was helping de-escalate. Said the judge, that proved that she
00:35:19.480 knew there was a crime afoot. That proved she knew there was mischief afoot. So even though she was
00:35:25.000 helping lower the temperature. Even though she was helping to fix the problem. Well, that just shows
00:35:29.640 she knew there was a problem. And thus she should be convicted of mischief. I am frankly astonished.
00:35:35.400 And I want to be really honest with you. I spend a lot of time in the courts,
00:35:38.920 both as a journalist reporting on what I see, and actually as someone in courtroom battles. As you know,
00:35:44.600 Rebel News goes to court quite often to fight for freedoms. And sometimes we're sued ourselves.
00:35:49.240 This is what a real dent in my belief of the administration of justice is fair and balanced
00:35:56.440 in this country. I now feel, and I have to be honest with you, I feel like there are two tiers
00:36:01.640 of justice in this country. I feel like if you're an actual criminal, say in my city of Toronto,
00:36:08.840 the police, their response to home invasion robberies is literally to tell citizens,
00:36:14.600 leave your keys near the front door so the home invasion robbers can find them more easily and
00:36:20.520 don't ransack your house. That's literally the advice that the Toronto Police Service gives to
00:36:26.200 homeowners in that city for violent criminals. I mentioned already, if you're a foreign national
00:36:32.840 promoting Hamas riots, the police will actually give you an escort. But if you're a peaceful Métis
00:36:39.560 grandma from Alberta who says, hold the line, police and the courts will interpret that as a call to
00:36:45.720 violence, or a call to law breaking at least, and you'll be convicted of mischief. I'm astonished today
00:36:53.400 and I'm worried. I'm worried about Canada's future as a place for free speech for certain people. It'll
00:36:59.880 remain a free place for criminals and for foreign nationals coming here as part of the anti-Semitic
00:37:05.800 crime wave. I don't know. I'm disappointed. But I do know this. We're going to keep fighting. Where
00:37:12.200 there's life, there's hope. If you want to help me crowdfund the appeal of her conviction to try and get
00:37:17.240 an acquittal in the appeal court, help us out at helptamara.com. As you know, all the money goes
00:37:22.120 to the democracy fund. You'll get a charitable tax receipt. That said, it's always an uphill battle
00:37:27.400 to appeal a court ruling. And this is a ruling of over a hundred pages long. It's quite likely that the
00:37:33.160 judge has written it in sort of a legally bulletproof way. So I don't want to, I don't want to mislead you.
00:37:39.400 Appealing this ruling will be an uphill battle. I think we have to do it though. If we won't, who will?
00:37:44.600 For Rebel News at the Ottawa Courthouse, I'm Ezra Levance with some bad news.
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